Spectromagic to replace Fantillusion?

pussinboots · March 23, 2008, 02:33:48 AM

Quote from: "Timbo"I've seen Spectromagic several times , and really liked it at the time;but when I look back at the videos of that and compare it with Fantillusion,it looks really dated ! The floats in Fantillusion are far brighter and more detailed,seems like there is more going on.But I don't like the stops in Fantillusion,they really seem to break up the flow of it and not much really goes on ,your just waiting for it to start again.I suppose it is a clever way of getting more showtime without more floats or dancers etc.Of course nothing compares to MSEP !!!

My thoughts exactly. The stops are supposed to be moments of performance, but when you eliminate all the dancers, it leaves nothing but an inflatable Ursula or a very pressured Mickey Mouse to entertain the crowds. They should either add dancers or cut the stops completely and just keep moving...

Anthony · March 23, 2008, 02:08:14 PM

Quote from: "Timbo"But I don't like the stops in Fantillusion,they really seem to break up the flow of it and not much really goes on ,your just waiting for it to start again.I suppose it is a clever way of getting more showtime without more floats or dancers etc.

I quite enjoy the stops in Fantillusion, particularly the Princesses with their rising turntables, but the lack of dancers between the floats has always been a bit disappointing. It seems only about 20% or less of the daytime cast return for the night parade.

One thing I truly hate are those dancers with the flourescent costumes that have to cover them up as the parade is moving. It's not bad enough that the Villains pass by with nothing inbetween - we also have useless dancers dressed in black bin bags pushing their UV lights, which everyone stares at rather than the floats. It's a very nice effect during the parade stops, but seems a bit silly to waste valuable cast like that when they're clearly so pushed for budget already. Same goes for the Disney VIP characters who hide inside of the Garden floats and only pop out at the parade stops. Only 5% of the audience sees them.

It's worth remembering in all this that Paris probably also has the highest labour costs of any of the resorts, right?

Riebi · March 23, 2008, 03:30:19 PM

I like the show stops too. The only one I didn´t like as much as the others is the ursulaaaa show stop.
But the addition of some more dancers and little units would be great!

About the labour costs I read the same. The CMs have a big labour union encouragement like everywhere in france.

zanderstarz · March 23, 2008, 11:01:32 PM

Quote from: "Baloo"
Quote from: "Timbo"But I don't like the stops in Fantillusion,they really seem to break up the flow of it and not much really goes on...
One thing I truly hate are those dancers with the flourescent costumes that have to cover them up as the parade is moving. It's not bad enough that the Villains pass by with nothing inbetween - we also have useless dancers dressed in black bin bags pushing their UV lights, which everyone stares at rather than the floats.

I agree, the villain dancers are very distracting and seemingly pointless when they are cloaked. The costumes look very affective in UV light, i think they should permanently be lit and have a 'walk' routine before the stops, but realistically, i dont think its possible. The UV 'push units' have to be 'pushed' by someone. Yes it would be lovely to have UV lights installed on the floats or around the paths for the show stops but thats simply not possible. Likewise, when there are no stops and they villain dancers do their 'walk' routine uncloaked, they are completely invisible in the night...what a waste!

I highly doubt that Fantillusion will be replaced with an older parade, especially something as ugly and outdated as SpectroMagic. A new night time parade will most probably be invented for the parks 20th Anniversary. My opinion is that Fantillusion is perfect for Paris, its very pretty and short. The score is amazing and theres plenty to see. I have to agree with a few people that Usula MUST die!

On a lighter note, new dance unit concepts are being thought up all the time. But its just a very difficult process to implement them into the parades. Heres how it works...the dance Captains in Paris think up a new unit....they put this idea to the Managers in California or Florida...these managers have to approve the ideas before rehearsals start. Its a very laborious process and expensive to DLRP.

More dancers are proposed for when Fantillusion starts up again in the Summer, so thats good news. I even hear new floats might be added in the future. Snow Whites Queen and Aurora are very probable.

pussinboots · March 23, 2008, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: "zanderstarz"On a lighter note, new dance unit concepts are being thought up all the time. But its just a very difficult process to implement them into the parades. Heres how it works...the dance Captains in Paris think up a new unit....they put this idea to the Managers in California or Florida...these managers have to approve the ideas before rehearsals start. Its a very laborious process and expensive to DLRP.

Really. Quality control? While I appreciate the strain this puts on DLRP, I think it's a very good thing; DLRP hasn't always had the best, most Disney-like ideas (the Pink Witches! "Horny Horny Horny" on Main Street!). Heavens knows what might have been if they didn't have to report to the managers in CA and FL. Sorry if that offends anyone; I really only mean to criticize the people in charge of said examples.

QuoteMore dancers are proposed for when Fantillusion starts up again in the Summer, so thats good news. I even hear new floats might be added in the future. Snow Whites Queen and Aurora are very probable.

From your lips to ED's ears! Although about those new floats -- what exactly are we talking about here? Does TDR still have the 16 floats DLRP didn't buy? Or would DLRP actually build new floats from scratch? As far as I know, they've never built a complete float for a nighttime parade; the ones that were added to the Main Street Electrical Parade in 1998 were imports from TDL as well, I believe. But I might be mistaken.

-b-e-n-9-5- · March 30, 2008, 11:32:44 AM

I think that fantillusion should stay as spectromagic is good but it's a little bit boring after a while, i want the funny characters who blow the trumpets whose faces change colours to come to fantilliusion though!

Also if they havent demolised the train part from the Main Street Electrical Parade, can't they adapt that into fantillusion so like the funny characters drive it ?

what do you think of my idea?

Edit: also what about firworks n nighttime parade at same time?

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