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[Barnsey313]

To me it seems Mickey and Co. and in-fact most of the other classic Disney films are being forgotten, with the more modern productions such as High School Musical (*Shudders*), Lilo and Stitch (*again*) and Hannah Montana (*yet again*) taking their place. What do you think? Do you think they will all eventually be slowly pushed aside?

James.  :donald:

NB: If you hadn't noticed I don't like any of the above.

[burntsienna]

I feel the same! It's like they are pushing away the classics!

which is terrible because the classics are the best.

I'd like to think that they weren't going to push aside the classics, but it does feel like its already happening.

[Barnsey313]

Same here, I don't like the whole introduction of playhouse disney, High school musical and stitch live to the parks.... I mean there was even a stitch invasion series of pins...... I don't like how he has started appearing with or even in place of mickey on some of the merchandise either.

Although I have to say Enchanted was a good film... mainly because it was based on the Walt Disney style of story.... Along with Pixar of course... I've yet to see a bad Pixar film.

James.  :donald:

[burntsienna]

I don't mind the Lilo and Stitch stuff much as I do enjoy that film.
But I do agree with all the other stuff...though there is a lot of people that do like it so I suppose it isn't too bad, aslong as Disney is still making people happy.
But they really shouldn't forget the Classics as they started it all.

I loved Enchanted because it had a classic feel to it, and I'm the same I love the Pixar films too.

I'd like to see a ride based upon all the old short animations! Similar to Crushes Coaster.

[Nicholas-c]

"it all started with a mouse" disney will never forget this but no matter how much we hope Disney, WDW and DLRP just want to make as much cash as possible from any charector, besides I consider a few moderns (lilo and stitch) as semi-classics

[burntsienna]

Yeah I'm the same, as I do like Lilo and Stitch.
But stuff like High School Musical and Hannah Montana etc...just aren't something I'd want to see in the parks.

I'm just hoping that The Princess and the Frog will be something connective to the classics

[MizzRabbit]

I do like Stitch a lot but I agree that Hannah Montana and Highschool Musical is taking over. Also the Princesses as a group. I don't mind them seperately but I can't stand the princess merchandise where they're all together. They don't belong in the same universe and it's just classic commercialism. They're also doing it to poor Tinkerbell. Reinventing her and creating mass merchandise. The classic Tink is slipping more into the background. Now she's all sweet and glittery and people forget that the real Tink is a jealous little minx.

Thanks for letting me vent.

[burntsienna]

I do like Stitch a lot but I agree that Hannah Montana and Highschool Musical is taking over. Also the Princesses as a group. I don't mind them seperately but I can't stand the princess merchandise where they're all together. They don't belong in the same universe and it's just classic commercialism. They're also doing it to poor Tinkerbell. Reinventing her and creating mass merchandise. The classic Tink is slipping more into the background. Now she's all sweet and glittery and people forget that the real Tink is a jealous little minx.

Thanks for letting me vent.

I fully agree!
People are forgetting what Tink used to be like and are making her something she's not...or something she was never shown as being.
All the princesses just wouldn't be together at all!
I do like princess merch, but never when they're all together.

[Barnsey313]

Hmm... Maybe there was something I missed when I watched Lilo and Stitch.... Maybe if I see it a second time it might grow on me......

 As for everything about the Princesses and HSM etc. I completely agree and I dislike the way tinkerbell has become part of the 'Disney fairies'... There's only ONE disney fairy! and she isn't the same when she isn't with Hook (One of my favorite characters)

James.  :donald:

[MinniesBestPal]

I WON'T LET MINNIE BE FORGOTTON!

[AmericanMouse]

It seems to me that the current management is forgettting what started it all.

Mickey, Donald, Snow White.

And what revived the dormant industry.

Ariel, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Toy Story.

Frankly, as an older stateman as it were, the current pablium puking nonsense that HSM and Hannah Montana is not Disney as we know it.  We are being pandered by tweens who do not hold jobs nor have disposable income whatsoever.  If I had children of that age, I would strictly forbid them from watching (or buying) any of their merchandise, go to a concert or even listen to Radio Disney, because it is not Disney to me.  And it is unfortunate that the current management believes Mickey Mouse is best suited as a pre-school character, not as an company icon.

If I owned Disney stock, I would collect a simular like group of people and lead a revolt against current management and, to quote Michael Eisner, "bring the crazies back in charge."  I do not believe in the saying "Money talks, ******** walks," I beleieve in the classic stuff, some of the new stuff.  However, current management is blinded by the color green.  Accounts, bean counters, who gives a Flying Wallenda?  Bottom line, as the old saying goes is to "keep the customer (or in this case, the guest) satisfied" and if it means opening up the purse strings to do so (new theme lands, a new park, etc.), then damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead Mr. Christian.

It's a palace revolt in the making with many people getting upset on the naked pictures of Vanessa Anne Hudgens unfortunately. What would cryogentically frozen Walt (and he isn't) do in this situation?

[anthonysprincess]

I don't agree with this one.

HSM and HM are very popular but that doesn't mean they are abandoning the classics... the classics are everywhere at Disney! They are used in all the merch, they are all of the parks as characters, rides are still around, shows, etc etc and Lilo and Stitch is a classic hand-drawn animation, I mean, how is it any different from any other classic hand drawn animation??? How's it different from B&TB or Lion King, etc etc?

I think sometimes we get a little crazy about progress and change at Disney...

The one thing I will say is that I wish some of the new stuff was more related to the classic stuff, ie NEW hand drawn animated movies, etc... but we can hope on this Frog Princess or whatever it is (:

Also... it does make sense to use new, successful things in the parks. I do not like HSM at all... and I really hated having to hear it at work LOL. Buuuuuut it is a Disney product, it is popular and a lot of people would expect to see it in the parks. And if we want the parks to thrive they do have to keep making money and it draws people in.

[Captain Pan]

I don't agree with this one.

HSM and HM are very popular but that doesn't mean they are abandoning the classics... the classics are everywhere at Disney! They are used in all the merch, they are all of the parks as characters, rides are still around, shows, etc etc and Lilo and Stitch is a classic hand-drawn animation, I mean, how is it any different from any other classic hand drawn animation??? How's it different from B&TB or Lion King, etc etc?

I think sometimes we get a little crazy about progress and change at Disney...

The one thing I will say is that I wish some of the new stuff was more related to the classic stuff, ie NEW hand drawn animated movies, etc... but we can hope on this Frog Princess or whatever it is (:

Also... it does make sense to use new, successful things in the parks. I do not like HSM at all... and I really hated having to hear it at work LOL. Buuuuuut it is a Disney product, it is popular and a lot of people would expect to see it in the parks. And if we want the parks to thrive they do have to keep making money and it draws people in.

I agree with you there anthony's princess, in order to want the public to want and need Animated Classic Disney, and I believe the re releases with Platinum or Special Editions every 3 months of the year to be the way of giving children who have never heard of Pinocchio (and trust me I know children who have never heard of even bigger classics including Little Mermaid and Snow White).

We as a group brought up on Classic Disney are going to have to take the new stuff as Disney aren't going to Abandon its BIG massive money spinning productions... It wants to attract people into the Franchise and watch them take up and pick up more and more of the Disney Culture... and with it the Classics (hopefully)

Hmm... Maybe there was something I missed when I watched Lilo and Stitch.... Maybe if I see it a second time it might grow on me......

 As for everything about the Princesses and HSM etc. I completely agree and I dislike the way tinkerbell has become part of the 'Disney fairies'... There's only ONE disney fairy! and she isn't the same when she isn't with Hook (One of my favorite characters)

James.  :donald:

Now the Tinkerbell Movie franchise for me is a great move on continuing the legacy of Peter Pan, even if it does look like she's selling out but for me the story for what's happening with the plot is great, it picks up on the writings of both Peter Pan and Wendy author J.M.Barrie and Peter Pan in Scarlet's Geraldine McCaughrean on what makes and gives the fairies their little quirks!

[anthonysprincess]

Now the Tinkerbell Movie franchise for me is a great move on continuing the legacy of Peter Pan, even if it does look like she's selling out but for me the story for what's happening with the plot is great, it picks up on the writings of both Peter Pan and Wendy author J.M.Barrie and Peter Pan in Scarlet's Geraldine McCaughrean on what makes and gives the fairies their little quirks!

Yeah, I mean I don't really personally like her having a voice now but then again its just a personal taste thing. I can understand that move (the new movies) in a lot of ways and it looks pretty sweet and the character designs are gorgeous <3

[Pete's Dragon]

It not like thy're ever gonna remove the Classic stuff. I can't see them having Hidden Stitch silhouettes instead of MM. But even kids (like mine) raised on Snow White, Peter Pan and Sleeping Beauty are still going to be exposed more to recent productions. If Disney didnt feel there was a market for HSM and HM merchandise, then there wouldn't be any. Suplly and Demand. As for Disney Fairies, if it doesnt prove popular or sell a lot of luchboxes, pretty soon you won't hear tell of it again.

Personally, I dont mind. I love watching my kids sing along and acting out ALL the scenes from HMS cause it makes them happy ( or my son to any film with a sword ). And at the end of the day, that's the most important thing.