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[DopeyDad]

Does HK Disney not make any money then?

[dagobert]

Does HK Disney not make any money then?

I'm not sure, but I think that HKDL isn't making any money at the moment. Maybe TimmyTimmyTimmy knows more.

[montaguewarner]

I'm pretty sure HKDL has been making a loss ever since it opened! Heck DLP had a MUCH bigger construction cost as was making money within 3 years, 5 years down the line and this tiny park with its tiny cost is still losing money!

[TimmyTimmyTimmy]

Hong Kong Disneyland is loosing alot of money each year. It just isn´t tempting enough for the people in the regions around Hong Kong to chose Disneyland over Ocean Park... yet. It has been claimed in a few places that expactations are that Disney will make alot of money from it´s Hong Kong park in about 5-10 years. Hong Kong is gearing up for the future of it´s tourism at the moment. New hotels and easier acces to tourist destinations are just a few things besides the expansion of Disneyland to make more people visit Hong Kong. I don´t know if it is true or not I guess time will tell. That is why this park will get 3 new lands. Just one or two new rides is not enough to get Hong Kong Disneyland on it´s feet. Meanwhile Ocean Park aswell is getting an expansion.
I really think everybody knows that they made two mistakes with this Disneyland: too small and too few rides. At the beginning the only rides in the park was Orbitron, Dumbo, Pooh, Cinderrella Carousel, Teacups, Jungle River Cruise and a cheap version of Space Mountain. Hong Kong Disneyland had many other attractions listed, but most of them where stuff that visitors just walked buy (photo ops).
As it is now Ocean Park is THE themepark in Hong Kong and that is a shame.

I would still tell anyone viseting Hong Kong to check out Disneyland. It is a nice park to just be in, and it is very cheap for being Disney. It has two great shows (Lion King and Golden Mickey´s) and even if Space Mountain is like a cheap version of the one in California it is great to able to ride it over and over. Hong Kong Disneyland is most of the time a very calm place compared to the packed streets of Hong Kong. In most pictures and videos the park almost semes close to empty.
This is Hong Kong how it looks any night of the week: http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=YcBiboe ... re=related
and this is Hong Kong Disneyland during it´s Christmas season (when the park offers exclusive shows and changes for the season to draw bigger crowds): http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=IigZ-DI ... re=related.

[dagobert]

According to Screamscape.com and Business Week The Oriental Land Company may team up with TWDC to create the new Shanghai Disneyland.

I think that means that the best Disney themeparks will all be in Asia. I can imagine that with OLC behind the project, that the new DL will even be better and greater than DLP. Hopefully OLC will be the majority holder, because than they have higher influence and we can expect a great park. Otherwise Disney will build the park as cheap as possible including the greatest attraction, Toy Story Playland, ever created by WDI.

Maybe Disney should transfere the control of all their non-US parks to OLC.

Here are the links:
http://www.screamscape.com/html/shanghai_disneyland.htm

The link to Business Week can be found in the article.

[TimmyTimmyTimmy]

Disney does not know how to run a themepark anymore. WDS, the state DLP is in and the terrible Fantasyland expansion in WDW is proof of what being cheap can cause. They should let OLC run their parks. Disney can make up ideaass for rides and lands... but nothing else. OLC puts the D into Disneyland. By the way... DisneySEA is THE BEST themepark in the world. Disney as it is now would NEVER build another DisneySEA.
Let´s hope OLC builds the park in Shanghai. If they do it will be yet another reason to forget all about saving money for a trip to Disneyworld.

[SM:M3]

Disney does not know how to run a themepark anymore. WDS, the state DLP is in and the terrible Fantasyland expansion in WDW is proof of what being cheap can cause. They should let OLC run their parks. Disney can make up ideaass for rides and lands... but nothing else. OLC puts the D into Disneyland. By the way... DisneySEA is THE BEST themepark in the world. Disney as it is now would NEVER build another DisneySEA.
Let´s hope OLC builds the park in Shanghai. If they do it will be yet another reason to forget all about saving money for a trip to Disneyworld.

I agree to some degree, WDS was a combination of Disney costcutting and EuroDisney SCA, and they are at least starting major refurbs in DLP. However the MK expansion looks pathetic but Disney seem to run the Californian parks very well, yes the DCA makeover is because they got it wrong in the first place but Disneyland looks brilliant. The OLC do know how to run parks, and although TDS is the world's best, TDL is mainly a combination of DL in California and MK in Florida. Shanghai can't be another copy park of the American Kingdom's it has to be unique.

[Kristof]

The Walt Disney Family Museum just tweeted this:

Bruce Vaughn and Craig Russell just shared with us what's next for the Disney Parks! So exciting!

Looks like DLP won't be the only park to have a BTM on an island.


Source: The Walt Disney Family Museum twitter via Clubd23.com

[luke85]

Looks very interesting, I want to see more! I hope there are some more detailed leaks soon  [-o<

[dagobert]

It looks like a traditional Disneyland park and the design has many similarities with DLP.

[Columbiad]

Looks like DLP won't be the only park to have a BTM on an island.

Aaaawww.

[The Butlin Boy]

It's quite hard to make out, but it looks almost as if they've combined Paris' Disneyland Park with Tokyo DisneySea - A combination of Disney's best Magic Kingdom and second gate parks... very interesting

[Anthony]

The back of Frontierland looks interesting - giant waterfalls or something? Almost like Western River Expedition. And is that a riverboat link with the hotels, right into the park?

It does look small though. They seem to want to do the same as with Hong Kong, have the railroad slightly within the park, going through the middle of lands, rather than right around the edge.

Do we know whose castle it'll be yet?

[TimmyTimmyTimmy]

I doubt that land on the left really is a Frontierland. It does not look like a BTM on an island at all.

[Aladar]

yes it does