Pirates of the Caribbean 2017 refurbishment (EEP)

Started by msRavenswood, July 28, 2016, 08:35:15 AM

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Zee79

'captain jacks' is a big no from me! It does not fit in with the level of restaurant that the Blue Lagoon is. Why do DLP think that changing what we have is a good thing. If things are working leave them alone.


claire2281

Quote from: Zee79 on June 17, 2017, 02:15:35 PM
'captain jacks' is a big no from me! It does not fit in with the level of restaurant that the Blue Lagoon is. Why do DLP think that changing what we have is a good thing. If things are working leave them alone.

Obviously they don't think it's working for whatever reason. Maybe they're not happy with how often it's being used or the feedback they're getting about it. Unfortunately they don't make these things public.

I do think the park needs more family friendly restaurant spaces so perhaps this is part of the change - the menu is quite an acquired taste and whilst I would happily eat there, the people I've been with are always a bit put off by the menu. I think they may need to compromise a bit and have some simpler stuff too (particularly for the children's menu - my sister in law teaches 6 year olds and commented that the vast majority she'd met wouldn't eat much off it). 
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lunekid

It's a previously unbranded restaurant that now has a pull that can now bring in visitors through the use of character association.

As long as the quality of food is still good then I don't see what the fuss is about!

Rocketeer

Hard to disgaree with you there lunekid.

I'll admit, I'm not a fan of them rebranding it - but it does mean the sometimes forgotten restaurant (by Joe Public) will have a bit more prominance.

As for the Auction scene. Sure its not PC - I can't defend it on those grounds, so removing it was probably on the list for a long time. Although its managed to remain for 50 years...

All I hope is that they come up with something that is a worthy replacement. Quite how that looks, I can't answer, but so long as its not some goofy quick-fix scenario - and please... nothing film related in its place. There's enough of that in there now.


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claire2281

Quote from: Rocketeer on June 18, 2017, 11:10:59 AMAs for the Auction scene. Sure its not PC - I can't defend it on those grounds, so removing it was probably on the list for a long time. Although its managed to remain for 50 years...

All I hope is that they come up with something that is a worthy replacement. Quite how that looks, I can't answer, but so long as its not some goofy quick-fix scenario - and please... nothing film related in its place. There's enough of that in there now.

I never really considered it particularly un-pc myself and I'm a very fluffy lefty XD I think mostly because it's obviously accurate to the feel of the time. I will say however that a lot of the animatronics in PotC are very dated now so I won't be too sad to see many of them changed. When you look at the likes of Mystic Manor, you can see what's possible. I'd be happy to see the vast majority of the characters in the ride changed (not all to film characters!) for a totally refreshed ride experience.
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MickeyAteMyCap

Quote from: Rocketeer on June 16, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
DLP confirmed this morning that the great Blue Lagoon restaurant in Adventureland will have its name changed for "Captain Jack's - Restaurant des Pirates" ( "Captain Jack's Pirates Restaurant" ) when the POTC attraction will reopen next month.
Great idea. The restaurant needs to be more Pirates of the Caribbean-themed.

msRavenswood

Two new concept art pictures emerged today, confirming the change in the Auction scene and the rumoured Barbossa scene in the skeleton caverns.

The Redhead will become the main character of the Auction scene as seen in the first picture.

As for the Barbossa scene, those of you who have watched the first POTC movie, you can probably guess what it will be about. I expect a spectacular effect, similar to the one used for Jack Sparrow at Shanghai's "Battle for the Sunken Treasure". I guess will find out soon!



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claire2281

I think all the new stuff sounds great. I agree the Barbossa scene sounds like the skeleton change scene which will be spectacular and obviously we're getting the fog screens too. Tbh both of these things are much more exciting than the Jack Sparrow addition!

I've seen quite a bit of complaining about the auction scene being changed but I don't agree with any of it - the replacement scene sounds and looks great and they're keeping the character in a new role.

Also there's a bit more about Captain Jack's as a restaurant. They've given it a story and apparently it has new decor and new costumes for the waiters. No word on a new menu but I'd be surprised if it didn't change a bit.
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ChipandDale99

Quote from: claire2281 on July 01, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
Also there's a bit more about Captain Jack's as a restaurant. They've given it a story and apparently it has new decor and new costumes for the waiters. No word on a new menu but I'd be surprised if it didn't change a bit.

I saw this aswell changing from an island restaurant theme to more of a pirate tavern.
However I also saw a hint that captain jack may make appearances in the restaurant so another kind of character meal maybe?

msRavenswood

I admit I was a big skeptical at first about the Auction scene, but now that more details have been revealed, I have no problem that they're changing it.

Rocketeer

^I'm with you MsR, it seems like they plan to do the alterations in a sensible way that keeps with the original attraction raison d'etre without shoehorning in (or out) something just for the sake of it.

I could with less film characters in it though..


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DisneyRon

A little more information on the changes coming to Pirates, with concept art of the new scene replacing the auction.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/disneys-pirates-of-the-caribbean-ride-will-stop-selling-1796554071

PMF

Having Barbossa in the caves will mess up the morality tale Tony Baxter and Chris Tietz wanted to tell with the ride.

claire2281

Quote from: PMF on July 03, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
Having Barbossa in the caves will mess up the morality tale Tony Baxter and Chris Tietz wanted to tell with the ride.

But he likely shows they're cursed by their actions. Also in the original film he dies in the treasure cave.
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