Villages Nature — New leisure/accommodation (Now Open)

Started by Kristof, October 11, 2007, 01:36:35 PM

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Anthony

#60
Quote from: "dagobert"Thanks for the infos Anthony. I'm happy to read that WDI is involved, although I'm disappointed that they are not involved in the water park.
I'm not sure, if I'm reading it right they're involved in the whole overall design/vision of the project, including the water park. Just that those specific architects are bringing it to reality.

Considering it's to be the biggest water park in Europe, I wonder if it'll be open to everyone or just Villages Nature guests? It would be a major boost for DLP to get a proper Lava Lagoon-esque water park out of this, even if it takes a short tram ride to get there from the Disney Hotels.

That first image you posted of Hundertwasser's buildings looks great, I've never seen these before. Going back to the latest concept image, you can seem to see a little Art Nouveau flourish in various elements already. It's perfect for the kind of intertwining of man and nature theme they're talking about.

Joe Rohde would be absolutely perfect for the project, all this just boosted my excitement a million times over. It's great timing that the Aulani resort in Hawaii, which he's one of the lead designers on, is scheduled to open from August 2011.
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dagobert

#61
The first picture I've posted is from a Spa Resort and Hotel in Austria.
http://www.blumau.com/rogner_bad_blumau ... ature.html



I'm sure that the waterpark will also be open to Disney and Partner Hotel guests as well since Disney is part of the project. Otherwise there would be many complaints. Disney just has to add more busses to connect the hotels to the water park.

dagobert

#62
Dizfanatic.com has posted concept art about the Villages Nature:

http://dizfanatic.com/DLP_Villages_Nature.aspx

http://www.screamscape.com/html/disneyland_paris.htm

I really like the design of the buildings, but I'm not that happy with the waterpark.

davewasbaloo

#63
Interesting. I think the buildings (with the exception of the indoor water park) will age very quickly. They are too contemporary really. But I like the look of the water park. It may not be a Typhoon Lagoon, but it does look a little Disney Seas/Epcot.
since 2001 (many before that)

davewasbaloo

#64
Quote from: "dagobert"I'm sure that the waterpark will also be open to Disney and Partner Hotel guests as well since Disney is part of the project. Otherwise there would be many complaints. Disney just has to add more busses to connect the hotels to the water park.

I hope it is open to the public. However, rather than buses, I would far prefer to see a boat, lightrail, peoplemover, or monorail service.
since 2001 (many before that)

dagobert

#65
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"
Quote from: "dagobert"I'm sure that the waterpark will also be open to Disney and Partner Hotel guests as well since Disney is part of the project. Otherwise there would be many complaints. Disney just has to add more busses to connect the hotels to the water park.

I hope it is open to the public. However, rather than buses, I would far prefer to see a boat, lightrail, peoplemover, or monorail service.

A boat or a monorail would be great, but I still think that Disney will use busses, because the other transportation system are too expensive.

When we have been in Las Vegas we used the Cable Car System that connects the Luxor Resort with the Mandaly Bay Resort.
http://www.dcc.at/doppelmayr/references ... etail.aspx

The same company built a similar system for the new MGM City Center.
http://www.dcc.at/doppelmayr/references ... etail.aspx

I think this system is a lot cheaper than the traditional monorail in Florida and I also think that it can be altered to use more trains on the track. Maybe it is a possibility for Villages Nature.

A few weeks ago, this company (http://www.dcc.at/) and its mother company (http://www.doppelmayr.at/) were featured on an Austrian TV channel. The documentary was about the future of transportation and more and more cities use such cable car trains or ropeways, because they are ecofriendly and cheaper than other systems.

davewasbaloo

#66
Now that would be awesome! Thank you for sharing   :thumbs: I was totally unaware of this system until you pointed it out  :oops:
since 2001 (many before that)

SM:M3

#67
Actually, a tram system is planned to link Villages Natures with the Roland Garros across the M-way and the resort centre;

Something like hydrogen buses would be a good idea in my opinion, almost early EPCOT optimism.

Anthony

#68
There's a brochure here with the concepts in, it was only on the French corporate site: http://corporate.disneylandparis.fr/COR ... nature.pdf

And as I was wondering how they'd manage the phases, this is Phase 1:



As you can see, only the Western section to begin with, and even then lots of space left over for extra accommodation on the fringes. Much less dramatic than the full plan they've been showing until now but still pretty massive.

The architecture I'm not sure about yet. There's a chance this could be the Festival Disney of 2015 and suddenly look hopelessly out of date like davewasbaloo says. But then again, if it's done to a higher standard, and maintained well, it could be stunning. I like this one:



Animal Kingdom meets modern architecture.

Let's hope it looks like that, and not like a post-apocalyptic, overgrown Hotel Santa Fe...!



Knowing what Euro Disneyland looked like on opening day and how the plants have grown in now, how on earth are they going to get it to look like this within 2 years of construction?
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dagobert

#69
This is a huge project and I'm still not sure if it is really needed.

Where is the indoor water park on the first concept art?

Maybe I'm in the minority but I like the second concept art that Anthony has posted. Last one doesn't look that good, but I think it will look a lot better in reality.

The plan SM:M3 posted shows a tramways. Will the tramway be an extended RER that connects DLRP with Villages Nature?

Anthony

#70
Here's a quickly annotated map:



That's just a guess about where the tram station might be, but if you look at this earlier plan for the fully built-out project, there's a nice glass station canopy there. I put an extra "?" question mark on the plan above because there's something else there I can't quite make it. It might just be a roundabout or a new access road to Davy Crockett, or even better a second tram stop, specifically for ranch guests.

The tramway will be a standalone system just for DLP/Val d'Europe, it's the same one we've talked about in the Roland Garros tennis tournament topic, since it's a big part of that bid. I don't think I've seen it mentioned in any of the Villages Nature stuff though. Hopefully it doesn't depend too much on Roland Garros. It'd be just DLP's luck to lose that bid and be stuck with buses to their super-eco-friendly holiday village.
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#71
hey, new user here. Risking to state the obvious, but... doesn't this glass dome

(page 8 on this brochure http://mascarpone.net/temp/dome.png)
looks A LOT like a volcano? why nobody seems excited by this lol

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Festival Disney

#72
^ That visual reminds me soooo much of Futureoscope :P
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CafeFantasia

#73
Yes, it looks a bit like this building at Futuroscope:


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#74
Quote from: "Alan"Yes, it looks a bit like this building at Futuroscope:


uhm, that looks like the village nature proposed dome as much as any stylized glass dome looks like the other, but the futurscope is clearly based upon a "crystals" shape


while the village nature one has the typical volcanic cone shape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_cone

compare it to the shape uf mount prometheus in disneySEA



beside that, putting a volcano on the side of a geothermal lake only makes sense to me.

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