People who visit Disneyland without Children

Started by Aveen2008, June 27, 2008, 07:51:42 PM

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kurgly_bird

#90
I do let children stand in fron of me as they don't block the view but i still think the parents have a duty to ask otherwise it's still pushing in, and as has been said they can't then themselves push through.

Hilary

#91
I appreciate that parents might not want to wait for half an hour (or more!) before a parade with young children as they're bound to get restless but they should still appreciate that other people have made the effort to get there early to secure a good spot.  Time and again you see people arrive at the very last minute and expect to get an excellent view (not just at Disney parks of course - I went to New York last Thanksgiving to see the parade and could not believe the number of people turning up when the Parade was due to start who then figured they could shove their way to the front).

Of course, as people have said, it's no problem to let small children sit or stand in front of you (mind you, I'm quite short myself!) but again, as commented above, it's the parents.  I was videoing the Once Upon a Dream Parade and had to cut a fair chunk out because a heated argument developed between a woman and her young grandson (who had been waiting a while beforehand) and another woman who pushed her way through with her children, not caring about the child who was already there.  

As for being in the Park generally, as an adult without children, I've done it a couple of times now and haven't felt uncomfortable - what can I say, I'm a total Disney nut and love visiting the Parks!  I have stopped trying to get my photo taken with characters - am happy getting good clear shots of them to put on my website - although of course that may just be because I'm older and, well, bigger now than when I first started going... :P

DisneyMichelle

#92
Quote from: "kurgly_bird"
Quote from: "Ineffability"Thing is, as much as we all want to be up the front and that Disneyland is for everyone .. It is fundamentally about the children. For someone who might of had to skrimp and save to take little ones to disney and to have some 6ft man not budge so a 5 year old can get a glimpse of a princess of Mickey is unforgivable.

Children believe the magic .. You MUST let them stand in front of you at the parade, or sit in front of you at a show. For queue rides yes, we all wait in line thats the name of the game .. But when it comes down to a question of manners and compassion .. Let these little ones see their heroes .. You don't know what that family have been through to get there and may never get the chance to go again

Have a heart when you are standing down main street and you look down at a sad little 5 year old face cos you want to be up the front


Thing is, actually people without children, such as students like myself have to save up just as much. I don't think it's right to presume that children should stand at the front for the parade, I think it's the parent's right to ask or else get there earlier to avoid disappointment. I'm sorry but I am in place at least 30 mins before any parade and i don't think anyone has the right to tell me to move just because they couldn't be bothered to wait, teach your kids some manners, ask politely and there shouldn't be an issue.

I also heartily agree with the above post, it's people like you who ruin trips for adults.


I totally agree here. Im 24 and at this very moment I am working very hard to pay for a wonderful New Years Eve trip to Disney with all the trimmings, dinners, buffalo bill, etc etc.
So if i decide to get to a parade with plenty of time to get a good view then i dont see why i should let these rude people push infront, if im asked nicely for their children to sit infront or stand then thats fine,  Please & Thank you's go along way. But as for those who feel they have a god given right to swan along 2 mins before a parade starts and push me out the way....well its just not going to happen!

and as for these cute innocent children....seriously some of them are horrific, they are as bad as the parents.

Everyone will have their own opinion on this matter, but for those that call us ''bizzare' because we dont have children and want a picture with a ''man in a micky costume'' i totally agree with TR Wolf - u dont seem to 'get' Disney.
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phantom247

#93
I never mind children going in front of me after waiting for a parade but take offense when i've been quietly waiting and their parents/relatives push in also obstructing my view.

kiki_304

#94
Quote from: "fray101"Time and again you see people arrive at the very last minute and expect to get an excellent view (not just at Disney parks of course - I went to New York last Thanksgiving to see the parade and could not believe the number of people turning up when the Parade was due to start who then figured they could shove their way to the front).


Ok, now I am soooo jealous of you!  I was supposed to be in New York last year to watch the thanksgiving parade (without my kids) and after all the planning, finding great flight prices, the perfect hotel, looking at best parade spots my friend pulled out. :(
It has been something I have wanted to do for so long and never had anyone to go with (hubby doesn't like flying).  But I will take my boys I guess when they are much older and leave hubby at home.

Back to DLP....  I really don't like rude ppl who walk in front of your kids and put their kids on their shoulders!!!

Like I said before, I just avoid the parades because my kids are timid and will not stand their ground and end up getting pushed out by the older kids (mine are 3 & 5).  But I fully agree that ppl take liberties assuming that kids have priority without manners.

Catalina

#95
Hi There!
I actually joined the Forum just now to comment on this very issue, because it bothers me too.

I went to DLRP last year for the first time in many years and I was absolutly shocked to see how rude some children were even to the Characters themselves!
They were so demanding, I couldn't believe it.

There was incident in particular, where we were at Café Micky and Minnie was there. She came out and for some reason headed straight for my Sister (who's 24).
There were a lot of Children following her and a little girl started screaming and pulling on Minnie's Skirt, non stop. I was horrofied! Minnie tried to push her away gently but that didn't work, the little brat (pardon) just wouldn't give up until Minnie went with her to her Table. I still wonder where her parents were at that time.
Some children just have no manners. No "please" and "thank you", just "gimme" and "i wanna"!

Gareth

#96
just before i post on this i just want to say that i dont mean to hurt or affend anyone so sorry if it does

but basicly when my family go to disney my neice who is 8 and my brother who is 11 love to meet characters but alway get pushed out of the way coz they dont want to fight so i figure that if they are being pushed then it is fine to help them meet the character by pushing coz they have just as much a right as others do, and im going in decmebr for the first time without my parents or brother and neice just me and a friend and i will be cival and everything but i feel that you either wait or dont get good seats so i think everything over there should be first come basis coz if we dont have seats for a parade we dont rudly push and as for children the parents that are with them are sometime worst defo if your at the tea parties fo meals coz they are so worried that they wont get their moneyies worth that they just tunr rude and start pushing to so overall i think you gotta stand your ground no matter what your doing and im only just 18 nt old lol heheh but i do think that my lil bro and neice will come before me and anyone coz they get more joy out of it but i wont let people push over them just my 2 cents o and i dont push for them if we were nto there first so its kind wait and push if rude people come

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Clarebelle

#97
Quote from: "Ineffability"Thing is, as much as we all want to be up the front and that Disneyland is for everyone .. It is fundamentally about the children. For someone who might of had to skrimp and save to take little ones to disney and to have some 6ft man not budge so a 5 year old can get a glimpse of a princess of Mickey is unforgivable.

Children believe the magic .. You MUST let them stand in front of you at the parade, or sit in front of you at a show. For queue rides yes, we all wait in line thats the name of the game .. But when it comes down to a question of manners and compassion .. Let these little ones see their heroes .. You don't know what that family have been through to get there and may never get the chance to go again

Have a heart when you are standing down main street and you look down at a sad little 5 year old face cos you want to be up the front

Disneyland was built as a place FOR YOUNG AND OLD, for children of all ages, as a place to have fun.

I dont think that anyone on the forum would ever have a problem in letting a small child infront of them at a parade, if you have read the topic from start to finish then you would see that most people have already stated it.

As for parents having to save up, what do you think we all do?? me and my boyfriend  pay for all our trips, we just dont get money given to us! we work very hard for it and as we are already saving for a house we really have to scrimp to afford to go on holiday and to do everything we want while we are away, so what gives ANYONE the right to push infront of people? we never do it so is it too much to ask that it doesnt happen to us?

Would you deny an elderly couple, on their first and probably their only holiday to disneyland, a photo with Mickey mouse or a good spot for the parade? even if they had been waiting in line just bacause your children wanted their photo first? would you push them out of the way?
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Captain Pan

#98
Appears like some words of Wisdom and memory is required from the Man that Started it all
Quote"Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
-Walt Disney

Just cause we're the big "freaks" we are moveable...
I remember my first parade...
I worked out a spot (With Wendybird1) she complained of a back problem and decided to sit on the curb and was joined by about 5 children, I spotted a little boy just behind the freakishly tall girl and offered him a place alongside the girl on the curb, and ensured that the parents had an ideal view at some instances "compromising" my enjoyment... which failed to materialise as with the knowledge that I had a selfless act, and made my time more enjoyable!

Magic isn't hemmed to just the children, and as a Student Teacher I have the unique view of seeing that day in day out in a classroom!

never2old

#99
As Clarebelle says, no one here has any problems in letting a child in front of them to watch the parade, and definitely no problems in understanding that kids want to meet the characters.

The issue we have is with the lack of manners of some of the parents (I don't want to offend anyone, but for me if a child has bad manners, I blame the parents). What we don't like is parents pushing their kids in front of adults (or even other children, as Gareth mentions), instead of waiting for their turn. I don't know how many times I've tried to meet a character, trying to find some sort of line or seeing who was there before me, only to have someone show up last minute and push their kids ahead of me. Sometimes the characters notice and they come to me, but it's not always the case. In an ideal world we would all meet all our favourite characters and spend plenty of time with them, but in Disneyland they have a limited time to be there, and lots of people wanting to meet them. If someone has been waiting they should have the priority over someone who hasn't done any waiting. Regardless of the age.

And it's the same with parades. Often I get asked to let some children in front of me during a parade, and if they don't ask me I will offer to have them in front of me. I'm tall, I can see just fine, and I know that kids will see it better and enjoy it more at the front.
What I really don't like is when parents just shove them in front of me without asking. Even then I let the kids in front of me (it's not their fault if their parents have no manners), but I don't see how so many parents (because I see it every single time) expect to show up at the very last minute and still be able to their way to the front, when the people there have been waiting for a long time to be there.

And I think that, even if some people will push their kids ahead of other kids, it's those of us who go without any children to the parks that have to endure this the most.

littlemermaid83

#100
Why is everyone just assuming its the pushy parents fault.

I have been at DLRP and experienced rudness from adults without children, so i think its unfair to put all the blame on parents with children.

End of the day we are all there to get some magic, its just unfortunate that some people go to extreme lengths for it child bearing or not.
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never2old

#101
You're totally right littlemermaid83. It's not only people with kids that can be pushy and rude, I too have seen often adults being like that without the excuse of their children.

kurgly_bird

#102
I agree, rude people come in all sorts of varieties, my remarks were only in defence to a person who told me that because i don't go with kids i'm odd...

Epcot_Boy

#103
Quote from: "kurgly_bird"I agree, rude people come in all sorts of varieties, my remarks were only in defence to a person who told me that because i don't go with kids i'm odd...

Then kurgly_bird I must also admit to being :roll:  odd as well :)  As must some of my friends and the many people I meet at DL(R)P who are also odd :?
DL(R)P is just full of us odd'ns :P

Epcot_Boy :ears:


David

kurgly_bird

#104
Quote from: "Epcot_Boy"
Quote from: "kurgly_bird"I agree, rude people come in all sorts of varieties, my remarks were only in defence to a person who told me that because i don't go with kids i'm odd...

Then kurgly_bird I must also admit to being :roll:  odd as well :)  As must some of my friends and the many people I meet at DL(R)P who are also odd :?
DL(R)P is just full of us odd'ns :P

Epcot_Boy :ears:

indeed epcot boy, i think that's point proven lol