Prequel for Peter Pan?

Kristof · February 18, 2005, 04:14:53 PM

From scifi.com:

Pan Prequel Flying At Disney

Disney has optioned the film rights to the best-selling children's book Peter and the Starcatchers, by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson, Variety reported. The studio is planning to adapt the book into a 3-D computer-animated feature, the news service said.

The book, which was released by Disney Editions last August, is a modern retelling of the events leading up to the classic story of Peter Pan. It centers around an 8-year-old boy named Peter, who leads a group of orphaned boys and a girl named Molly on an adventure to recover a trunk of magical starstuff before it falls into the hands of the pirate Black Stache.

Anthony · February 18, 2005, 04:22:34 PM

Hmm I'm not sure what to think about this. If they put enough time and money into it then it could turn out well, but I'm just not too keen on the 3D element. It's still incredibly hard to animate humans and surely Disney can't do it better than Pixar... Pan belongs in 2D.

PAT_MAGIC · February 18, 2005, 05:00:01 PM

One thing I can say is how many more Pan movies do we honestly need, now there is Peter Pan disney original, Hook, Peter Pan 2 a rubbish sequel, the Peter Pan live action movie and also the story of Barry in the movie that I have forgotten the name of

. I think Peter Pan is getting old fast thanks to all these movies and sure 3D can be great but Pan as said by Baloo belongs in 2D. I don't think this will be a big hit since it is another sequel type and really will it have the magic the original had, I doubt it will to be honest :cry: .

Kristof · February 18, 2005, 05:19:27 PM

Quotethe story of Barry in the movie that I have forgotten the name

Finding Neverland :wink:

PAT_MAGIC · February 18, 2005, 05:31:29 PM

Ah yes thats it, I still have yet to see that :lol: .

Kinou · February 20, 2005, 12:30:50 AM

I Can't wait to see Eisner big departure, too much unimaginative sequelly remaky (new words from me

) movies are in project (This PeterPan movie, Toy Story 3 without PIXAR, a TINKERBELL MOVIE (C'mon THIS is Awful), and the classic's follow-up), i'm really getting tired of all this and lose faith in Disney, i'm turning to others studios such as Pixar, Dreamworks (which Madagascar looks very promising with an original style), japanese animation (Steamboy, Ghibli..)...

Please bring back innovation to Disney

Kristof · February 20, 2005, 02:38:27 AM

From another site:
Variety is reporting that Disney animation is in development of a 3-D CGI feature based on the bestselling "Peter and the Starcatchers."

The story is a loose prequel to the beloved "Peter Pan," and follows a modern 8-year-old Peter who leads a group of orphaned boys on the ship Never Land. Peter and shipmate Molly lead an effort to recover a trunk of magical starstuff, before it can fall into the hands of the pirate Black Stache.

The book was written by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson and will be published by Disney Editions in August.

Anthony · February 20, 2005, 02:35:13 PM

I was hoping this would just be one of those rumours, but now it's actually looking quite certain to happen... If Disney really are going to do this then they need to differentiate it with the Peter Pan 2D movies. Transporting those characters into 3D will just look awful, and so I think if they are going to make this then they need to seriously think about going in another direction and developing a new visual look so that it doesn't ruin the original.

As Patrick said, there's way too many Peter Pan movies now. Control yourselves Disney, this needs to end NOW!

On a related note, did anyone else read that Disney are infact setting up a specialised Animation department which will focus solely on producing sequels to the Pixar movies? They're gonna have a tough job on their hands aswell, since not only do they have to come up with a story to equal the original, but they also have to get the voice talent back AND reproduce EVERY SINGLE model in the movies. That means they have to recreate Woody, Buzz, Jessie, even things like the plastic monkeys from scratch! It just can't work... :cry:

PAT_MAGIC · February 20, 2005, 05:05:45 PM

Now I feel like Disney is rubbish and needs to controlled with sequels, there is simply no need in creating all these sequels all I can say is why can't they just use their imagination again instead of wasting money setting up a whole department for Pixar sequels it is just awful, now if a Incredibles 2 emerges anywhere I really will not buy any more Disney movies that were made within the last 2 years since they have been rubbish most of them, and since they have all been sequels this comes as no surprise. Return to 2D animation since anything is possible with that. I do computer Animation at college and to be honest I think that Disney also use Maya which is what we use and it just does not give a magical touch at all to anything you create. It is wonderful if you want to create a Computer game, but not for a Disney movie, honestly they have stepped too far with this now, I say stop it here or we will have no Disney left within 5 years :cry: .

Kristof · February 20, 2005, 10:32:46 PM

Here's my thought about the Disney sequels: ofcourse they're not the best achievement made by the company, but a lot of children actually appreciate those! Jungle Book 2 was a top movie in the movie theatres here and the direct-to-dvd are mostly high in the dvd selling charts in Belgium.

By the way, Pixar does sequels too: Toy Story 2 and they were even thinking about a third one.
I also read a story about Walt Disney who was thinking about a sequel too Snow White and Mary Poppins (the book was called Mouse Entertainment).

But true, a Peter Pan prequel would be indeed over the top. Although I will go and see it, like those other sequels... Just because I'm a curious Disney fan who just can't help it... :wink:

PAT_MAGIC · February 21, 2005, 01:36:14 AM

You mentioned Mary Poppins there, well that is easy to do sequels for just as the princess diaries is simply becuase the sequel books are already out there to gain guidence from when creating a story for the movie sequel, now Toy Story 2 had an original story so it deserves to be a good sequel and was also created by Pixar that seem to still use their imagination unlike Disney half teh time now, and I am not against kids liking the sequels but really Disney should be producing quality not cheaply made quantity. So certain disney sequels are cool to see like the Pixar sequels, but what I am trying to say is will the Disney made So called pixar sequels be as cool to watch? Disney should not be producing yet another Peter Pan basically is what I am saying and not in CGI, I say either Live Action or not at all to show Disney as it should have been in the last Live Action Peter Pan movie created before of course Disney pulled out when it found it had to pay money to the Childrens Hospital in London :evil: . Although I am a person who mostly refuses to watch Disney sequels after the ever so brillinat Cinderella 2 was bought by my sister, now that showed Disney had stooped to a new low, and I think Peter Pan is already out there in so many forms, are people still wanting to see more movies about the boy who never grew up?

Kristof · February 21, 2005, 05:32:58 PM

Yes, indeed. The sequels are deffinetely not of a good quality... And the stories are mostly no-brainers... But that's because it's for kids! Cinderalla II was silly, stupid and without humour. But I know a 4 year old girl who adores that movie.

And about sequels in general... that's Hollywood! Be honest, how many times have they set Willy free? And how many times will Michael Myers come back or the great white shark.

Those movies are just to make money and that's what a movie company needs to create their other high quality gems... But that's just my thought. :wink:

Anthony · February 21, 2005, 10:34:01 PM

Quote from: "raptor1982"Those movies are just to make money and that's what a movie company needs to create their other high quality gems... But that's just my thought. :wink:

Yeah, that's a good point - the large amounts of money made from the "cheapquals" has probably helped the bad impact of the huge losses on recent big-budget Disney films like Atlantis and Treasure Planet.

I think the only thing they need to improve with the 2D cheapquals now is the story. The animation in Mulan 2 is pretty damn good for such a cheap film, but the story is just nowhere near as good as the original - the quality of animation here actually makes you wonder just how Disney can spend so much on their major films - $120m for Treasure Planet, was it? That's crazy! Even with all the expense of the 2D/3D worlds-mixing, it's still a LOT of money. So perhaps these cheapquals have helped in some way, but I do fear that in 10 years Disney will look back and wonder what the hell it was doing. They will have milked absolutely everything dry. Even if they want to do a worthwhile sequal to one of their older films, it'll have to be "Mulan III" or "Tarzan III" or whatever - they just need to realise how much they're ruining their legacy here.

Kristof · March 01, 2005, 11:18:59 PM

Baloo, what do you think about Treasure Planet and Atlantis?

Both movies were released before my Disneyfan-era :wink: , so I haven't seen one of them in the movie theatres. I really wish I had seen Treasure Planet on big screen, I think it must have been very impressive. I quite like both movies, especially the 2D/3D mixure and the soundtracks!

Anthony · March 02, 2005, 10:43:16 AM

Sorry to say this since you didn't see it, but Treasure Planet was INCREDIBLE on the big screen! Even my mum and dad loved it which I was very surprised about.

I was very glad I paid a bit more for the cinema with a DLP digital screen aswell, since this meant the colours and the animation was just amazing to look at. And with that beautiful score aswell... it really was special.

In the US they played it on some IMAX screens aswell - shame they didn't do that in Europe, might have helped it a bit (though it would be expensive, I suppose).

I also love Atlantis aswell, though I never saw it in the cinema. I wasn't too sure at first, but once I watched it again I fell in love. It might not be as good as it could have been, but it's a very daring Disney animated film, and is beautiful to look at and wonderful to hear. It isn't one of Disney's greatest classics, and neither is Treasure Planet, but both films definately showed that Disney can do good films without "Phil Collins popping up every 10mins for a song" as I read in so many places... :roll: