I found this on MiceChat:
Quote from: MiceChat[Rumor] - A Rat In Paris?
I was very interested to read this snippet in Al's latest MiceAge column:
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The other ride originally proposed for the Paradise Pier remake was a roller coaster themed to Ratatouille. That one has been shelved for now. While the box office for Ratatouille was strong in North America, there wasn't much appetite for the merchandise with American consumers. It's thought now that the Ratatouille theme isn't lasting enough to dedicate a major attraction to in DCA, and an attraction for the northwest corner of Paradise Pier is undecided at this time. Ratatouille has done very well in Europe however, and the merchandise and toys are selling better in France than they did in America. With that, the Ratatouille attraction concept may very well be slotted in to the Walt Disney Studios park in Paris.
This comes only half an hour after I caught the following rumour over at Blue Sky Disney:
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The park has seen a sizable increase in attendance for the 15th and this is a very, very good thing. Let's just say the Suits are happy and the Imagineers are eager to show what they can do to make this quarter-day park, a full day park. They're not in the approval phase yet, but several blue sky projects are underway... There are plans for at least two new "E" Tickets to be put in WDSP by the tenth anniversary if all goes well... you can bet that one of the proposals for an "E" Ticket ride involves a certain Parisian Rat as well. He's a big hit in the Gallic nation right now and the Mouse is keen on exploiting the Rat.
Interesting, n'est-ce pas? If a Ratatouille ride does appear in Paris, it's fair to assume that it won't be the re-themed version of Crush's Coaster we've been hearing about for a few months now. And this talk of an E-ticket has me intrigued. What could it possibly be? Anybody any guesses?
By the way, the rest of the Blue Sky article is well worth a read. The site is usually fairly reliable when it comes to inside information, and if even half of what he says is on the way to DLRP over the next ten years actually turns up, I'll be a very happy bunny! Catch it here:
http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/20...-sleeping.html (http://http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/20...-sleeping.html)
So what do you think. I personally, although I haven't seen the film yet, have got my finger crossed for a Ratatouille dark ride or Toy Story Mania type ride as I think the studios lacks a dark ride and where better to put Ratatouille ride than Paris <!-- s:) --> :) <!-- s:) -->
It's about as likely as that attraction between RNRC and Moteurs... Well, I guess it could happen. Anything can happen. But are they planning it? Hmmm...
Al Lutz' column seems basically like his mind went "No Ratatouille ride for DCA... hmm, why not for WDS, that's even in Paris!!"
And Blue Sky Disney is about as reliable as those pink shuttle buses for DLRP news. Notice these places for some reason never pick up on the real news such Crush, Cars, Woody's Roundup, Stitch Live when they're uncovered...
I'm not even sure what you could even base a Ratatouille ride on, but then I haven't seen the film yet either. :?
I quite like the idea, a ride thats ours based on a film set in Europe and it is Pixar which seems to be the way the Studio is going. I can see you climbing into a rat shaped car and then a Crush style coaster, dark ride through the kitchens then coaster style through the Paris sewers, Cool.
I would like to see a dark ride in WDS, but not from Ratatoullie. I would love to have a Toy Story dark ride, but I do not think that this will happen. This dark ride thing is only a rumor I guess.
I can't see this happening to be honest, They already said there won't be a new attraction coming in the next few years and if they did make it, i think they would be gambling weather the movie would be a big success or not.
Then again if the movie does become a success, some day it could come to WDS, but i doubt it.
Ratatouille is already considered a success in Europe when it opened a couple of months ago. It's up to the UK now to proof if they like it or not.
I am not too fussed about the ride being Ratatouille. My kids haven't been captured yet with the publicity and I am unsure if it will in the UK. I think a ride with Mickey and the Gang would be better......we will wait and see :shock:
I don't like rats. and I think many people have the same problem. But the movie is very good. Still my sympathies go for a mouse - Mickey Mouse. :)
I think a Ratatoullie ride may work as a 3-D show kinda a cross between philharmagic and its tough to be a bug with paris as a setting But think any ratatulie ride would really work at WDS
Why another Pixar ride? Why can't they develop a Disney Classics ride? Or a Disney Live Action movie ride? It feels as if the whole world has gone Pixar mad! :?
Quote from: "Atlantica"Why another Pixar ride? Why can't they develop a Disney Classics ride? Or a Disney Live Action movie ride? It feels as if the whole world has gone Pixar mad! :?
DLRP haven't even announced anything yet!
I know they havnt, but the fact that there is a rumour around about another Pixar ride still illustrates my point.
After my friend and I saw the movie we thought a Ratatouille restaurant would be better than a ride for the park - there are some great opportunities for brilliant theming in the restaurant - it could be called 'La Ratatouille' as in the film and have either animatronic characters (like the Rainforest Cafe) or sculptures, even a sculpture of the rat's restaurant in the interior.
Quote from: "Atlantica"Why another Pixar ride? Why can't they develop a Disney Classics ride? Or a Disney Live Action movie ride? It feels as if the whole world has gone Pixar mad! :?
Belonging just to the Disneyland Park, I totally agree with you. I mean - I really liked Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast when we first went on it in September. And I love the pictures of the new Woody's Roundup Village.
But it's still my opinion that those Pixar rides and attractions just don't belong to the classical, magical Disneyland Park. Maybe I'm oldfashioned or something, but I just think that the Disneyland Park should still be a tribute to Walt. There should be just rides and attractions with the "classical" Disney films - I mean, of course Ariel, Jasmine or Belle aren't created by Walt himself, but they continue his thoughts of the magic and are of handdrawn films.
I really like the Disney/Pixar films and I have a DVD of everyone of those films. I love Woody, Sully, Nemo & Co., but I just think that they fit more into the Studios Park - they fit there perfectly! What would the Studios be without Crush's Coaster or Cars, I can't imagine how they were without these great new attractions :)!
But the Disneyland Park is still the "romantic", magical, classical park for me and so I wouldn't like to have more computer animated movie-attractions in the DL park...
So beside the many words ;): I'd have nothing against Disney/Pixar attractions in the Studios, I think they really fit in there very well. But they should let the DL park stay more in his "old style" rather than creating more new com. anim. attractions in there...
Amen Nala, exact same feeling for me. Pixar fits exactly into WDS and let de main parcs be as Walts dreams.
I agree... Would prefer to see Philarmagic or something on those lines.. Fed up to the back teeth of Pixar stuff.. Im not sure Ratatouille has the longevity as a character that the park would be looking for (as opposed to cute Fish Nemo or Cars) ,even though the the film is actually way better and more adult orientated .
I love Ratatouille movie, my fave from Pixar so far and of course I would love a ride about it.
It's truth I'd love a ride about a cartoon movie too, but let's see what happens.
Ladyghost.
I would prefer a Ratatouille themed resturant more than a ride really. More 'classic' Disney themed rides would be better at the Studios for me. :)
Quote from: "murkai"I would prefer a Ratatouille themed resturant more than a ride really. More 'classic' Disney themed rides would be better at the Studios for me. :)
I totally agree I think a resturant would be brilliant, set out exactly the same as the movie, with a large Remy figure by the side of the doors as you walk in welcoming you.. :wink:
Brilliant :D/
i can see a ride based around the drains near the start of the film then around paris..
I thought Rendez-vous des Stars was already doing this? I am sure someone mentioned this on the Forum that the restaurants is themed like the film.
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Could it be true? :o
Quote from: "WDSfans"A Ratatouille darkride nibbling its way to WDS?
Posted by raptor1982 on Thursday, May 15 2008
Guimik, a member on Disney Central Plaza Forum claims he overheard 2 Imagineers talking to each other in Toon Studio about a Ratatouille attraction. He says they were carrying a concept art representing Gusteau's restaurant that's supposed to go behind the Studio Tram Tour Station. Of course, we can't take this seriously... Or can we?
Link (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/wdsfans/news/news.php#newsitemEkEplpZyyFzXgGwByx)
:-k
That would be great, but I a few weeks ago I read in an article that Robert Iger (Disney CEO) said that there will be no franchises, like themepark rides, of Ratatouille.
Quote from: "dagobert"That would be great, but I a few weeks ago I read in an article that Robert Iger (Disney CEO) said that there will be no franchises, like themepark rides, of Ratatouille.
Wasn't that an article dated before the European releases? Ratatouille was the BEST selling picture in 2007 in France and it did very well in other European countries as well.
I'm struggling to see how a Ratatouille ride would work.
I don't know why but I can't see how it would work unless it becomes a general movie one like Flight to Neverland is.
I rather see a Ratatouille ride than another Toy Story ride :)
Quote from: "Japper"I rather see a Ratatouille ride than another Toy Story ride :)
Same! Something unique would be much better in my opinion.
Well this is certainly an interesting rumour. I'm not going to get my hopes up because obviously there's a good chance this won't happen. But if it did, I think it would be perfect for WDS. Maybe it would be a water ride? WDS definitely needs some water - They could use the sewer scene at the beginning of the film. If not, maybe they could do a 4D ride - A bit like the Spiderman ride Islands Of Adventure in Florida? The 4D aspect would be able to make people see the world from a rat's point of view.
I'm getting my hopes up now... I'd better stop. :lol:
Quote from: "RnRCj"I think it would be perfect for WDS. Maybe it would be a water ride?
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"a concept art representing Gusteau's restaurant
if they theme the ride as gusteau's restaurant there won't be much water especially outside the building.
but everything wich pushes the tram tour repositioning, so expanding the current wds boundaries, i do like =D>
Quote from: "RnRCj"Well this is certainly an interesting rumour. I'm not going to get my hopes up because obviously there's a good chance this won't happen. But if it did, I think it would be perfect for WDS. Maybe it would be a water ride? WDS definitely needs some water - They could use the sewer scene at the beginning of the film. If not, maybe they could do a 4D ride - A bit like the Spiderman ride Islands Of Adventure in Florida? The 4D aspect would be able to make people see the world from a rat's point of view.
Woah. Such great ideas. I think you just solved me wondering how they'd do a dark ride from a rat's perspective, since you could never build real sets high or big enough. I wonder if a 3D-glasses dark ride would be
more or
less expensive than one with actual sets? It could certainly fit into a
much smaller space...
This rumour does sound like the ones you hear for UK theme parks ("I saw some guy with a clip board!!1111 OMG we're getting a 500ft coaster!!!!111!!!!"), and look at the kind of rides we end up with... you've given me more hope with that 3D idea though.
Combine the digital projection of Crush's Coaster, the 3D glasses of Midway Mania, the swervy dark ride cars of Pinocchio and a building themed on one side to Gusteau's and you've got a relatively cheap major hit dark ride.
I have an even better idea, the ride you described, plus pipe in smells like they do in Soarin over California. It would be great for the ride to take us into the kitchen where Remy and pals are cooking a gourrmet dinner, and the smells of the meal permeate through the air. It would be fantastic!
Quote from: "Baloo"Woah. Such great ideas. I think you just solved me wondering how they'd do a dark ride from a rat's perspective, since you could never build real sets high or big enough. I wonder if a 3D-glasses dark ride would be more or less expensive than one with actual sets? It could certainly fit into a much smaller space...
The question is, wouldn't they rather throw in a clone of Toy Story Midway Mania? It's cheaper to copy that ride instead of developing a new one based on a simular system.
Perhaps we shouldn't think all that big... A dark ride featuring vehicles following a simple track, like the Snow White ride. This would do with some well themed sets.
Quote from: "Remco K."Perhaps we shouldn't think all that big... A dark ride featuring vehicles following a simple track, like the Snow White ride. This would do with some well themed sets.
I was going to say earlier how similar the WDS expansion has been to DCA so far - a toon land and the ToT - only with the addition of Hollywood Blvd, etc. If they keep following that, we're due a small-ish dark ride soon like Mike & Sulley to the Rescue.
Something Snow White or Pinocchio level would be perfect. The demand is there - all those kids who aren't brave or big enough for Crush but want something a bit more than spinning rides.
Midway Mania would be great, but like you say Remco just a simple dark ride with real scenes might be much better for the park right now.
I must admit, I wouldn't mind if it was a Toy Story or Ratatouille ride. I just think that WDS shouldn't turn itself into a solid pixar base, I mean the films are good but I think you can't forget the 'classics'.
I agree that a Ratatouille restaurant would be good, but would it honestly fit in with the studio theme? I think if they do make a ride around it, it should have some kind of 'movie making' element to it, say going on set with Remy or something. I also like the idea above of smells being piped in - would be great for the food outlets nearby, they'd be packed :D
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Thinking about how the exterior could look like, I've realized how much potential this rides building has. Just imagine is we get a small area like the Paris area at the world showcase in Epcot:
(//http://www.awesomeflorida.com/images/epcot-france-b.jpg)
Can you imagine how perfect this would be for a Ratatouille ride in the WDS, with the center building as Gusteau's restaurant and the rides entrance :)
Just posted this in another thread but I guess it sits in this one better... found this little article on Toy Story Mania which I think may be news worthy, is this confirmation of a Ratatouille ride?
Link: http://www.cnbc.com/id/25210747 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/25210747%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
There's no question that Pixar is an increasingly important driver of Disney parks. The last big attraction Disneyland launched was its "Finding Nemo" Submarine ride last year, it's working on a big "Cars" attraction for Disneyland and a "Ratatouille" ride for Euro Disney outside Paris. All these rides further proof of the fact that Disney's acquisition of Pixar was about much more than just a movie studio, it was about building brands to exploit across all its platforms, which is CEO Bob Iger's big strategy.
Quote from: "Yesitsme"Just posted this in another thread but I guess it sits in this one better... found this little article on Toy Story Mania which I think may be news worthy, is this confirmation of a Ratatouille ride?
Link: http://www.cnbc.com/id/25210747 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/25210747%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
There's no question that Pixar is an increasingly important driver of Disney parks. The last big attraction Disneyland launched was its "Finding Nemo" Submarine ride last year, it's working on a big "Cars" attraction for Disneyland and a "Ratatouille" ride for Euro Disney outside Paris. All these rides further proof of the fact that Disney's acquisition of Pixar was about much more than just a movie studio, it was about building brands to exploit across all its platforms, which is CEO Bob Iger's big strategy.
Interesting. :-k Hopefully it's true, but I don't know how reliable the source is. It could be that they've just seen a rumour topic like this on a forum, but didn't realise it was a rumour. We'll have to just wait and see...
Quote from: "RnRCj"Interesting. :-k Hopefully it's true, but I don't know how reliable the source is. It could be that they've just seen a rumour topic like this on a forum, but didn't realise it was a rumour. We'll have to just wait and see...
I don't think so, the writer seems to really know her stuff. (Apart from calling the place Euro Disney, of course...) There's a lot of real quotes in there and a CNBC interview with the ever wonderful Mr Iger at the side. This seems to have the Disney stamp on it. :)
I don't know, I'm not really convinced. We'll have to wait and see I guess. :-k
Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "RnRCj"Interesting. :-k Hopefully it's true, but I don't know how reliable the source is. It could be that they've just seen a rumour topic like this on a forum, but didn't realise it was a rumour. We'll have to just wait and see...
I don't think so, the writer seems to really know her stuff. (Apart from calling the place Euro Disney, of course...) There's a lot of real quotes in there and a CNBC interview with the ever wonderful Mr Iger at the side. This seems to have the Disney stamp on it. :)
I would say that Its got the go ahead... and before we know the gates will be up in the appropriate area of the resort, and raptor will be giving us the insider scoop!
We've just got to start thinking about the nature of the ride... But Maybe that's something for The Sorcerers Workshop!
I found this section of the article however most interesting...
Quote from: "http://www.cnbc.com/id/25210747"Pixar's next movie, "Wall-E," is opening a week from Friday, and Lasseter tells me it's great. Perhaps even more importantly he also mentioned that it could make a great theme park attraction.
Well It would be for Lasseter to say the movies great... but to already be pitching the ideas for an attraction on WALL-E without its cinematic release, Lasseter is really fulfilling the quote I use for my signature... And without the need to jump through the normal hoops of Imagineering we could be see yet another Pixar attraction in the resort... (Not that I'm Complaining)
Quote from: "RnRCj"Interesting. :-k Hopefully it's true, but I don't know how reliable the source is. It could be that they've just seen a rumour topic like this on a forum, but didn't realise it was a rumour. We'll have to just wait and see...
CNBC doesn't read Al Lutz. They're all about money and business anyway; the mention of something like a future ride is an afterthought, paraphrased from the Disney press release they got. They would never actively pursue rumors unless they affected the Walt Disney Company in a manner that would interest people in power suits. You can trust this one.
As long as there's no press release or mentioning of their source, it's a rumour and not a confirmation. :-#
I really don't see a ratatouille ride the next 4 years or so.
Quote from: "raptor1982"As long as there's no press release or mentioning of their source, it's a rumour and not a confirmation. :-#
I really don't see a ratatouille ride the next 4 years or so.
No one is saying it will appear any sooner or treating it as an official confirmation, but CNBC does not say these things unless Disney spelled it out for them on a press release. They're not rumor hunters unless it involves a corporate merger, and they have no reputation for being interested in the Disney blogosphere.
I might not have a "source" at Euro Disney, but I'm quite familiar with CNBC. It was Disney that fed them this.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Quote from: "raptor1982"As long as there's no press release or mentioning of their source, it's a rumour and not a confirmation. :-#
I really don't see a ratatouille ride the next 4 years or so.
No one is saying it will appear any sooner or treating it as an official confirmation, but CNBC does not say these things unless Disney spelled it out for them on a press release. They're not rumor hunters unless it involves a corporate merger, and they have no reputation for being interested in the Disney blogosphere.
I might not have a "source" at Euro Disney, but I'm quite familiar with CNBC. It was Disney that fed them this.
Agreed^ That's why I posted the article, it seems like a reliable source.
Raptor you say with conviction no ride for 4 years? so what were the imagineers doing that were spotted with Gastreaus' plans discussing sightlines?
I would think that IF a Ratatouille ride is to be built it WILL happen in the next 2 years, it makes perfect sense to 'cash in' on the huge popularity of the film in Europe.
C'mon, only thing I said was, as long there's no official confirmation from Euro Disney SCA (as in a press release or an announcement during a shareholders meeting), the Ratatouille ride is still a rumour. Even if this information was leaked by an Imagineering source to CNBC, it's not official yet.
Quote from: "raptor1982"C'mon, only thing I said was, as long there's no official confirmation from Euro Disney SCA (as in a press release or an announcement during a shareholders meeting), the Ratatouille ride is still a rumour. Even if this information was leaked by an Imagineering source to CNBC, it's not official yet.
I agree with you completely (and did not mean to cause offence) I was just curious which is why I asked you about the 4 years thing,
Well I'm still confident that there won't be a Ratatouille ride the next 4 years...
5 Years perhaps???? :wink:
Quote from: "raptor1982"Well I'm still confident that there won't be a Ratatouille ride the next 4 years...
5 Years perhaps???? :wink:
Now there's a reason for the very wide speculation of four/five years... Either Raptors seen the parks 'Five Year Plan' or he's using common sense that we newbies are still learning...
Development mind you might be a reason... It Took Toy Story Mania if you listen to the article 3 years of development to get it to where it is today in the American Parks. There isn't a Ratatouille Ride elsewhere in a Disney Resort Worldwide... Therefore the design concept isn't something that can be copied like 'It's a Small World' or The Tower of Terror. and will be
uniqueFinancial... Walt Disney Studios are getting a Narnia replacement on Armageddon, Playhouse Disney is also in the middle of development, we've just seen French Rules and Regulations Sky Rocket the development costs of the Tower of Terror Unlike the American The French Tower was constructed using concrete rather than steel at a total cost exceeding
€60 million., Stitch Live along with the development of the Toon Studio with Crush's Coaster And Cars Race Rally... It's been a busy few years for the Resort with the 15th Celebrations Beginning and Continuing 'Big Time'. Maybe they need time to allow the settling of these attractions before adding another series of attractions! Or Maybe Disneyland itself is being given some TLC as its hasn't really had anything shiny and new to scream about like the Studios have with TOT and Stitch Live! other than New Shows and Parades!
One things true though... When The Shareholders get the confirmation that Ratatouille is going to get its moment in the Park; Raptor will be first on the Scene relaying the information he's tortured out of some poor victim and then we can scream and shout about it at the top of our voices!
Quote from: "Captain Pan"One things true though... When The Shareholders get the confirmation that Ratatouille is going to get its moment in the Park Raptor will be first on the Scene relaying the information he's tortured out of some poor victim and then we can scream and shout about it at the top of our voices!
and if he turns out to be wrong and they build a Ratatuoille ride in 09/10 we can all point and laugh at him for getting it wrong! (Kidding! :))
Well sure, I too trust Raptor's judgment. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed -- a while ago Alain Littaye hinted at an Indiana Jones Adventure in 2012, and now instead of that we'll have to wait that long for this C-ticket dark ride? But I'm sure he has his reasons for saying that.
All I was trying to clear up was that, through this CNBC article, we can pretty much trust that WDI is working on this attraction somewhere. This doesn't necessarily mean we'll see it anytime soon, though: there are also newspaper clippings from the early '90s boasting that both a Beauty and the Beast attraction and a Little Mermaid ride were just around the corner, and that something called the "Disney-MGM Studios Europe" would open no later than 1995. They weren't lying or repeating empty rumors; the Walt Disney Company promised them all of this.
Who ever said something about just a C-Ticket?
Someone on Disney Central Plaza -- one of those people who know someone at WDI or similar -- said it would be "in the league of Snow White and Pinocchio". Which doesn't have to be reliable, obviously.
Yes, but his source was a CM who works backstage, not at EDLI.
Someone else replied that it would be a big ride. And yes, that person got that from me. BUT that's all I know as well.
Well, that sounds promising. Not Indiana Jones Adventure promising, and there will still be a few "gap years" ahead of us in any case... But still.
Raptor is there anything else you can confirm about this attraction?
Is it planned for the area behind art of disney animation? Have there been any hints of what type of ride it will be? rumours are describing it as a typical fantasyland dark ride but it sounds 'bigger' in scope than that.
As much as I want this ride I was hoping we might get IAJA in the main park for 2012!
Like I said before, I only know it won't be a small Fantasyland attraction, instead, it will be bigger.
apparently GrandMath on DCP had seen the Test Balloons that you also had before the Crush's Coaster Constructions Started to measure and see from outside the height of the Building .
So that means there is a good chance for at least a building but now what's inside the bulding . The Test has been made right behind Ar of Disney and Tram Tour on the green grass .
That is funny how the Disney Management wants to fill up every empty space in the Park except expanding the park beyon Tram Tour . Remember the Full Capacity of the park is like 23 ou 24 000 .
Quote from: "dlrp_bopazot"apparently GrandMath on DCP had seen the Test Balloons that you also had before the Crush's Coaster Constructions Started to measure and see from outside the height of the Building .
So that means there is a good chance for at least a building but now what's inside the bulding . The Test has been made right behind Ar of Disney and Tram Tour on the green grass .
That is funny how the Disney Management wants to fill up every empty space in the Park except expanding the park beyon Tram Tour . Remember the Full Capacity of the park is like 23 ou 24 000 .
We are discussing the balloon tests in another topic since those tests are not related to the Ratatouille attraction.
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Quote from: "dlrp_bopazot"That is funny how the Disney Management wants to fill up every empty space in the Park except expanding the park beyon Tram Tour .
Offtopic but i'd prefer them to fill up the empty spaces of the park first and then work on expanding outwards beyond the park. How bad would it look if the park was spread further back with TOT in one place, and then Toon Studios in another. With all patches of land ready for future placements spliting lands and paths up.
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Does more attrations = more capacity for the park or less, if so surely thats not a good thing?
Think about, that we just got a fantastic E-Ticket. The Tower of terror.
And as long as we don´t know how Ratatouille will exactly look like - lets wait a be happy that Disney already has plans for the future. And for me: It doesn´t matter how Ratatouille will be like. Crush isn´t an E-Ticket, too. But it is so much fun!
And attracts so much guests!!!
This sounds like a nice adition to the parc. I have'nt seen the movie yet, but this actraction sounds prommising to me
A Ratatouille dark ride or Toy Story Mania type ride would both end up great so either one i'd enjoy! x
Thanks for the post-it's really interesting
well i hope it will be in 5 years time--
and i am liking the fact that it will be bigger than the 'normal' fantasyland attractions...i just hope that it won't turn into a bigger version of pinnochio or snow white...there good but a little rough around the edges
as for Toy Story Mania..... [-o<
Don't worry, when all is said and done, our Ratatouille ride should be more along the lines of Winnie the Pooh in Tokyo than Snow White or Pinocchio ;)
I'm not totally against it, but I think they should do a "real" disney dark ride for Toon Studios, like the little mermaid, winnie the pooh or something like that. Or at least the great movie ride is great to! Ratatouille aint bad, but it's not what studios need, since we have both crush and cars, NO! give some of that disney classic in studios too!
I´m hopeing for an Ratatouille Attraction, but really it shouldn´t be an interactive Dark Ride . I would really like to see something like Winnie Pooh in Tokyo or Pinocchio in BIG. Please not in style like Toy Story Mania. I think it´s so boring to ride and shoot or so... Just Classical, just watching and be part of the story, just a ride thru. Thats my favourite style for the NEW ATTRACTION even if it sounds a little boring but I like that calm rides like Peter Pan and Snow White and Pinocchio ! WDS needs really something like this :D
... in my opinion ;)
QuoteI´m hopeing for an Ratatouille Attraction, but really it shouldn´t be an interactive Dark Ride . I would really like to see something like Winnie Pooh in Tokyo or Pinocchio in BIG. Please not in style like Toy Story Mania. I think it´s so boring to ride and shoot or so...
There never was talk of the Ratatouille ride being interactive. It will be a darkride, in fact, Grandmath posted this a few post above:
Quote from: "Grandmath"Don't worry, when all is said and done, our Ratatouille ride should be more along the lines of Winnie the Pooh in Tokyo than Snow White or Pinocchio
:wink:
Yeah , makes me feelin better ;)
Thanks Kristof :D
I'm actually rather fond of the Ratatouille-ride idea since I love the movie. My perfered version would be a sort of water-ride (like Splash Mountain in Anaheim) since I really think DLRP is missing something like that. Maybe a wild water-ride through the sewers of Paris would be cool. But well, let's see what they come up with.
My feeling is, if they made it a water ride they would have to be careful not to get the guests too wet 'cos there are only one or two months when Paris is warm enough to dry you off without freezing. The occaisional splash on POTC is O.K but any more than that would be a no no in January or February. Brrrr....! :roll:
Quote from: "Bamperoony"My feeling is, if they made it a water ride they would have to be careful not to get the guests too wet 'cos there are only one or two months when Paris is warm enough to dry you off without freezing. The occaisional splash on POTC is O.K but any more than that would be a no no in January or February. Brrrr....! :roll:
Don't worry, Ratatouille will not be a water ride. Like Grandmath posted, it will be in the lines of the trackless
Winnie the Pooh ride in Tokyo (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh%27s_Hunny_Hunt). :)
Quote from: "Kristof"Don't worry, Ratatouille will not be a water ride. Like Grandmath posted, it will be in the lines of the trackless Winnie the Pooh ride in Tokyo (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh%27s_Hunny_Hunt). :)
The same Winnie the Pooh ride that has guests literally sprinting to it first thing in the morning to get a Fastpass, then camping out in a three hour queue for the rest of the day... (Not necessarily because of capacity either, they just love it)
Maybe we'll have a contender to battle Crush's Coaster afterall. :lol:
Hey folks,
i read at wikipedia that the ride system is not GPS its called LPS (local positioning system)
couse the GPS is not accurate enough...
here u can read all about hunny hunt.....
//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh%27s_Hunny_Hunt
Looks good , but has Disney confirmed it yet?Me Confused! :?
Quote from: "15yearsofMagic2008"Looks good , but has Disney confirmed it yet?Me Confused! :?
Please read the topic title.
Ooops ! Sorry :(
After a look at the new google earth pics I ask myself where the ratatoullie darkride should take place. They wrote somewhere behind cars and TAODA. But There´s just this little green gras area where ToyStoryLand should be. So do they place it in the imagination building or behind it or....???
(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/wdsfans/news/upload/google_earth_updated1.jpg)
Maybe like RnRCj expected in the toy story land topic?
(//http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/jacoaster/wdsfuture.jpg)
what about the backstage topic this september about the costume building? may the building will be demolished to make way for an even bigger expansion of the toon studio and to avoid the collision of toon studio and hollywood boulevard like you've drawn on the map...
:) The colored map is from RnRCj. But I ask myself also if the want to make something with the imagination building since the costume department could (rumoured) move away from there.
Lets forget Ratatouille even though it was a great film with theme Parks relying on marketing and merchandising it would be more prudent for the resort to get Monsters Inc ride and go seek. Why do you say that because Monsters 2 will be released 2013 which means lots of cross over advatising of all things monsters related.
Quote from: "phantom247"Lets forget Ratatouille even though it was a great film with theme Parks relying on marketing and merchandising it would be more prudent for the resort to get Monsters Inc ride and go seek. Why do you say that because Monsters 2 will be released 2013 which means lots of cross over advatising of all things monsters related.
Where's the Disney Press Release saying Monsters Inc 2 2013?
It doesn't exist... The Creation of Monsters Inc 2 is still nothing but Internet Hype and Fan boy wishes...
Monsters Inc Ride... I wouldn't plan for it until After Ratatouille is constructed as Ratatouille is supposed to be Unique to DLRP until someone whips it for another resort!
I can't see where they would whip it for another resort... luckily... except maybe France at Epcot?
A Ratatouille ride would go down better at WDS than Monsters Inc, and also allows for more fanciful theming. Monsters Inc would be great also, true, but it'd also be a factory-style building sitting at the back of the park.
Also, it seemed like Imagineering was lining up a big next-generation Pixar dark ride for each resort/country -- Toy Story Midway Mania for the US parks, Monsters Inc for Tokyo and Ratatouille for Paris.
I never said that Ratatooille is not still going into WDS I just mean't that comercially Monsters Inc would make a better decision. And yes Captain Pan there is no official anouncement on Monsters 2 for 2013 yet! but that does not mean that they have been working on the project for quite a while now and that it is not sceduled for Summer 2013. Do we take it that Toy Story Playland is not going ahead as Disney have not released any press release on the project no Disney releases information when they feel it is financially prudent. As Disney has UP to promote this year and don't want to detract from this Marketing for doctors next cinema release they don't want to talk about his future projects untill maybe the fall of 2009.
Ratatouille makes more sense to be in the studios than Monsters Inc. Ratatouille is set in France after all!
There are already Monsters Inc rides at various Disney parks, its about time that Paris gets a totally unique ride.
Quote from: "phantom247"I never said that Ratatooille is not still going into WDS I just mean't that comercially Monsters Inc would make a better decision. And yes Captain Pan there is no official anouncement on Monsters 2 for 2013 yet! but that does not mean that they have been working on the project for quite a while now and that it is not sceduled for Summer 2013. Do we take it that Toy Story Playland is not going ahead as Disney have not released any press release on the project no Disney releases information when they feel it is financially prudent. As Disney has UP to promote this year and don't want to detract from this Marketing for doctors next cinema release they don't want to talk about his future projects untill maybe the fall of 2009.
That doesn't make any sense. Okay, well Ratatouille premiered the same year as
3 Finding Nemo attractions. Just because they have a different movie opening up doesn't mean it stops them from building the attraction.
my comment is partly based on Disneys own Research which was caried out with young children on which films they remember and the characters within them. The conclusion of this research was that children only remember properties for 5 years. This is why Disney has produced a short for Cars to be placed in front of a variety of animated features this year as well as a short series for the Disney channel. Disney is rereleasing Toy Story 1 and 2 in 3D to generate enough take up with new fans and film patrons alike to support Toy Story 3. Ratatouille Attraction will come out 5 Years after the film came out and there is no intention to carry on with this brand in future films and does not have a long life span in terms of merchandise which needs to support most new attractions.
Quote from: "phantom247"The conclusion of this research was that children only remember properties for 5 years.
They must be very, very young children...
And anyway, isn't it parents who ultimately decide to go to DLRP? I'd say Ratatouille was very much a "parents'" film, and would appeal much more than Monsters Inc. The Parisian theme would make it feel very special and unique to DLRP.
Actually, after seeing how they added the Eiffel Tower to the Tower of Terror marketing in the UK, I think they'd love to have a very Parisian feature within the resort to market. Stops people from leaving the resort to visit the city. :wink:
If this rumour isn't true , I wonder who started these ?
It was confirmed ages ago by a senior member of staff in the Disney company (one of the high up American ones but can't remember who)
He stated in an interview with msbc that the Disney company is working on a Ratatouille ride for the Paris Studio Park. Of course plans can change but I really hope we see this Ratatouille dark ride in Paris. It is so sad how so many wonderful attractions have been designed for this park but never built.
Hong Kong Disneyland is getting a trackless ride as well. I guess it's cheaper to buy 2 instead of just a single ride system...
Quote from: "Hong Kong Disneyland"Inside Mystic Manor, a trackless ride system enables vehicles to move "freely" about the attraction as the story unfolds. Audio-Animatronic® figures and special visual and audio effects help tell the story of mystical phenomena.
This is very good news.
This Ratatouille dark ride happening is absolutely *the* most important thing for WDS, and I beginning to doubt we'd ever see it after Tokyo plumped for Midway Mania. Fingers crossed, and thankyou Hong Kong...
This sounds good. Ratatouille would be much better than Toy Story Mania. I'd actually be really hacked off if we got more Toy Story instead of a unique Ratatouille attraction.
How are the rumours about this attraction going? Is this still planned to be the big attraction for the 20th?
I would of rather had Toy Story Mania then Toystory playland :P
i totally agree with the idea to build a ratatouille restaurant! it would perfectly fit. Anyways, a ride would be better than something with toy story again after the new buzz lightyear attraction.
The news from HKDL really is very good news for Ratatouille indeed. As has already been pointed out, Disney can buy more than one and save money, perfect for the two Disney resorts with the worst financial record :wink:
I also feel that the HKDL plans also help to squash the rumours of a Toy Story Midway Mania in all of the parks too. Before the HKDL plans were released, it would seem very possible for Disney to stick TSMM at the back of TSPL instead of Ratatouille, and one in HKDL too. However, I now find it hard to see HKDL having Buzz, Toy Story Land AND Midway Mania all in one park. Therefore we wouldn't be getting one in each park :)
It now looks like the big decision was between Toy Story Playland and Midway Mania, rather than Ratatouille and Midway Mania, which to me makes a hell of a lot more sense. :)
Things are looking good for Remy and co :P
oh maybe i skipped it bot what is this Midway Mania?
Quote from: "Mrs. Jennes"oh maybe i skipped it bot what is this Midway Mania?
It's an attraction based on Toy Story at Disney's Hollywood Studios and Disney's California Adventure Park.
You can find more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story_Midway_Mania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story_Midway_Mania)
oh wow it sound very similar to buzz lightyear laser blast?
or was toy story mania the inspiration for it?
i guess i lost the view!
Quote from: "Mrs. Jennes"oh wow it sound very similar to buzz lightyear laser blast?
or was toy story mania the inspiration for it?
i guess i lost the view!
No, TSMM only opened last year, whereas the Buzz attractions (which are now at every resort) have been around for a much longer time :)
But I think both are basically the same type of ride.
And I think on Buzz Lightyears Laser Blast is enough even it is called TSMM.
yes that's what i think. both rides in one resort would be too much!
I don't think two, very different, shooting rides in the same resort is bad, its fine.
There doesn't seem to be a problem with:
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
Orbitron
Flying Carpets over Agrabah
Quote from: "Willow"I don't think two, very different, shooting rides in the same resort is bad, its fine.
There doesn't seem to be a problem with:
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
Orbitron
Flying Carpets over Agrabah
Nice Point Willow... we already have the same styled attraction in one park! they just have different theming!
Exactly what TSMM and BLLB would have... BLLB is Buzz and Buzz Lightyear only TSMM has the some of the vast cast of the franchise!
And TSMM as to my recollection the same styled idea but is executed via interactive screens almost like that of House of the Dead in the Arcades, Wii Play, Links Crossbow training- not forgetting Toy Story Midway Mania which is coming on the Wii which unlike the shot target and it reloads as some of BLLB's targets does!
Given the choice though, if we were to get a second interactive dark ride I'd much prefer Monsters Inc Ride & Seek (admittedly much more expensive). Not just because it looks completely amazing but variety.
Buzz and Midway Mania exist fine at DLR, but Buzz *plus* three separate Toy Story rides *plus* TSMM would be way too much for me, and they're probably my favourite films.
yes that's the point!
it's too much toy story. i really like the movies and i'm sure i would visite these attractions with much fun, but i just think there could be another theme, just to make it more varied.
I mean there are also 3 darkrides next to each other in Fantasyland but that's also not boring because they deal with different themes and stories.
I agree... I think there is too much Toy Story, in to many places. Frontierland (Round up), Discoveryland (Pizza Planet, Buz) and now the Toon Studio's. I want variaty.
However I really want to see Ratatouille. I love that movie. Besides it would be a great, unique ride for the Studio's. To me... it just seem to fit.
It is said in Kirmes & Park Revue that Ratatouille will be the official 20th ride. :D/ Does that mean there won't be an addition to the Disneyland Parc? :?
can you post a link to that report please, i would like to see it :D
I don't have the magazine myself. I've read it on Themepark.nl. :)
Link to the magazine (if you want to order it or something... ;) ):
http://www.kirmesparkrevue.de/ (http://www.kirmesparkrevue.de/)
I'm actually against the idea of a a Ratatouille ride, simply because it will create yet ANOTHER mini zone in the Walt Disney Studios, with a totally different theme.
If they built a whole Parisian area, with French shops and cafes AND a Ratatouille ride, that'd be cool. Something like the France pavilion at Epcot. But they won't do that. They'll put Ratatouille right up next to Toy Story Playland, and it'll be really difficult for guests to feel immersed in any one place. There'll be a total mismatch of styles.
Disneyland Park really deserves a new ride for its 20th anniversary. This has been discussed to death. But I still vote for either Splash Mountain in Frontierland, The Indiana Jones Adventure in Adventureland or The Little Mermaid in Fantasyland. One of those 3 lands needs a new MAJOR attraction. Discoveryland has received a lot of attention over the years and has ended up looking messy.
It would be the best DLRP get all three, but that will be a dream. I would love Splash or Indy. Especially Indy is unique for Europe (They should have used the 4th movie ;) ). I think Adventureland needs a boost. In comparison to the other parts it seems so quiet over there.
I can understand your idea of the Pixar minilands. It would be better to create more space and atmosphere around the rides, and create more the studio movieaspect.
Adventureland could definitely do with a movie tie-in update to Pirates, a Pirates Lair type overlay to Adventure Isle, a Temple of Peril coaster that isn't painful to ride, and either the Indiana Jones Adventure or a permanent Festival Of The Lion King theatre, like at Animal Kingdom.
But we're getting off topic. Ratatouille is the subject :-)
Sorry... :oops:
Last Off topic; I would say let's do all of that! =D> :D/ :-" That definately would bring more atmosphere and action to this beautiful part of the parc. It deserves to get more attention. :)
On topic: I hope it will stay an WDS exclusive. Not like the Toy Story area.
I would love to have a Ratatouille dark ride, no matter if in the Studios or in DP. I am not a fan of Kirmes rides und would just love a "real Disneyride".
A new darkride is my biggest hope. So pleaaaaaaaaaase build it.
The Disney and more blog reports that the Ratatouille darkride will be confirmed for WDS in 2012. This will be DLRP's 20th Anniversary E-Ticket. The Disneyland Park will possibly get the new Star Tours 2 in the same year.
See the full article here: Click! (//http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/disneyland-paris-summer-update-all.html)
Will the costuming building be removed for Ratatouille? I hope so. It would create a lot more space in that area, which I feel is too cramped.
If they're replacing the Costuming Building with Ratatouille, there goes another opportunity to either tie that space into the existing Cars area or the Toy Story Playland area. Instead it'll be another entirely separate area, with a totally different theme, making it impossible to feel immersed in a 360 degree movie environment.
Don't get me wrong, the idea of a Ratatouille ride sounds cool, but just not in that location.
Quote from: "Alan"If they're replacing the Costuming Building with Ratatouille, there goes another opportunity to either tie that space into the existing Cars area or the Toy Story Playland area. Instead it'll be another entirely separate area, with a totally different theme, making it impossible to feel immersed in a 360 degree movie environment.
Don't get me wrong, the idea of a Ratatouille ride sounds cool, but just not in that location.
Toon Studio is already screwed from that perspective. I mean, we've got got Route 66, Sydney Harbour, Arabia, and soon a giant garden full of toys - all within feet of each other! Unless they demolish everything and start again, there's no easy way of changing that.
In my opinion, the Ratatouille attraction is just about acceptable. It will be family friendly; immersive (at least on the inside); full of AAs; the first true dark ride of WDS; and it'll be located in an area that's supposed to be
for toons. It might also provide some nice architecture for the area.
The downsides are, as we've said, that it will be another completely different theme. But I'd rather have it in Toon Studio and be a little out-of-place than be thrown in some future Hollywood Boulevard expansion. :roll:
Quote from: "Tuvok"The Disney and more blog reports that the Ratatouille darkride will be confirmed for WDS in 2012. This will be DLRP's 20th Anniversary E-Ticket. The Disneyland Park will possibly get the new Star Tours 2 in the same year.
See the full article here: Click! (//http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/07/disneyland-paris-summer-update-all.html)
I love the sound of what they've said in this article; and if it's true, this could be one of the best rides in the Studios :mrgreen: With any luck, this expansion will also bring in some new toilets, a shop, a restaurant, even a little Parisian cafe would make this area a God send for the Studios [-o<
I'm still hoping that it'll look a lot like the France area of Epcot, that'd just be amazing...
http://edp.org/Travel/Florida/EPCOT/France.jpg (http://edp.org/Travel/Florida/EPCOT/France.jpg)
:P
Alain describes exactly the ride I've had in my head all these months. Wonderful!
I don't expect it to replace the Costuming building, that'd be far too expensive. Surely behind that building, on the area of forest between costuming and the Dinotopia set would be more sensible. The path running alongside Toy Story Playland leads right there.
I've totally lost the overview of this. Is there some kind of map that explain where costume building is, where TSP will go + the pathways and where we sugest RDR (Ratatouille Dark Ride) will be? :-)
Could this ride act as another kind of mini land just like TSPL. It could be like a French Epcot kind of thing, with a Gusteau's and maybe a boulangerie, and cobbled streets with a fountain in the middle (don't what to be to stereotypical). :lol:
Oh yes! please give me a fountain! [-o< A big one!
The description of the attraction so far sounds very promising and as said this could be one of the best attractions at the Studios. I hope (and am sure that) the themening will be awesome on the inside as well as on the outside given us some true studio atmosphere combined with some french street atmosphere.
Quote from: "Anthony"I don't expect it to replace the Costuming building, that'd be far too expensive. Surely behind that building, on the area of forest between costuming and the Dinotopia set would be more sensible. The path running alongside Toy Story Playland leads right there.
That would be a great location for this area as it will devide it a bit from Toon Studio and the soon-to-come TSPL.
And oh yes give us a fountain [-o<
There's a new article about the Ratatouille attraction at Disneytheque. You will need a translator if you don't understand French:
//http://www.disneytheque.com/article-23.html
It actually seems very well thought out. It sounds like there will be loads of cool effects and AAs.
Despite it being another toon-based attraction, I am rather looking forward to this! :mrgreen:
The rumoured budget sounds encouraging. If it is on the scale of Tokyo's Winnie the Pooh it will be great. If it is the GPS vehicles, but on the scale of Pooh or Monsters in California, I would be a little worried. I hope they get this right.
Seeing a family friendly AA attraction in WDSP would be excellent.
Looking at that article on Disneytechque it says that we will have to say goodbye to The Little Mermaid, Splash Mountain and Indiana Jones Adventure :cry: Hopefully that's not true, although the Ratatouille ride (complete with boutique and Gusteau's table service restaurant) looks good.
Quote from: "charlied"Looking at that article on Disneytechque it says that we will have to say goodbye to The Little Mermaid, Splash Mountain and Indiana Jones Adventure :cry: Hopefully that's not true, although the Ratatouille ride (complete with boutique and Gusteau's table service restaurant) looks good.
The article posted by Disneytheque mentions that the real restaurant inside the ride has been cut.
NO!!! Not more bad news. The wait for a table service restaurant at WDS continues...
Well, you have to remember that they would of gone for Ratatouille in the the first place:
1: it would be cheeper than building big rides like Splash Mountain.
2: it fits better in France
3: the film is very popular in France
Mind you, unless they decide to carry on the 20th celebrations for another year, then we might see our dreamed rides after all, we did get ToT better late than never. :wink:
While I'd rather see Splash and Mermaid, I guess it would be good to have another unique attraction at the Resort.
And for those after a fountain, don't forget there was a fountain in front of Gusteau's, so its quite possible.
So we still won't be getting a restaurant? That's ridiculous. This would have been the perfect opportunity. Perhaps they're holding it back and building it in 2013?
I do wonder if any sort of "masterplan" for WDS exists. It's almost as if they're having a secret raffle backstage, drawing out bits of paper saying what they're going to build next. There doesn't appear to be any particular direction they are heading.
I don't believe a masterplan for WDS exists. Everything they're adding now seems so disconnected, random and messy, pieced together with little overall vision. It's a far cry from Disneyland Park, which was designed by geniuses. But that was 20 years ago.
I wonder how many times the Studio Tram Tour will re re-routed, as last minute plans get approved? I'm surprised they re-routed it, but only pushed it back a little bit. They'll surely have to re-route it again. What a waste of money.
Quote from: "RnRCj"So we still won't be getting a restaurant? That's ridiculous. This would have been the perfect opportunity. Perhaps they're holding it back and building it in 2013?
I do wonder if any sort of "masterplan" for WDS exists. It's almost as if they're having a secret raffle backstage, drawing out bits of paper saying what they're going to build next. There doesn't appear to be any particular direction they are heading.
Yes there is a master plan for WDS, just like there is one for DLP. But both have changed sooooo many times, they're adjusted yearly depending on what guests want and Euro Disney's financial status. Last version I saw of WDS showed a soundstage where TSPL is being build now and the Tram Tour circling the entire forest. I believe that plan was drawn 2 years ago.
Quote from: "Kristof"Yes there is a master plan for WDS, just like there is one for DLP. But both have changed sooooo many times, they're adjusted yearly depending on what guests want and Euro Disney's financial status. Last version I saw of WDS showed a soundstage where TSPL is being build now and the Tram Tour circling the entire forest. I believe that plan was drawn 2 years ago.
Thanks Kristof! Okay, so at least we know that they have
some idea of what they want to do. It's sad that that the masterplan changes so much though. They really need to stick to their plans for WDS to become a great park. I'm sure they have several good ideas for the park, but those are probably dropped in favour of things like TSPL.
It must be irritating for the Imagineers that Paris is such a state of flux that no sooner do they settle on a plan some one says "uh, better cross that one off the list fellas".
Even if there is a Master Plan (albeit it one that constantly changes), it still doesn't help the overall "random" appearance the park now has.
OK, so Ratatouille maybe going in Toon Studio, and fit reasonably well, but I wonder where it could have gone if a plan was set in stone and was able to have been executed without monetary issues getting in the way.
I could have seen a little side street off of a proper Hollywood Boulevard (like the one in Disney's Hollywood Studios).
Apologies if this has already been said, but it seems to me Disney are doing a two-for-one with the Ratatouille dark ride and Mystic Manor at Hong Kong Disneyland. It seems they will use the same ride system and open within a similar timeframe.
There's a great new video on YouTube about Mystic Manor, with an Imagineer explaining the story and the path the vehicles will take:
[youtube:22192g2i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEF2awc6r0M[/youtube:22192g2i]
Yeah we connected the dots some time ago. :mrgreen: But thnx for the interesting video.
Forget Paris, I am going to save up for Hong Kong finally.
What a great video! Some of those effects sound amazing, particularly the vortex!
Thanks for the video!
Anyone notice that 32 seconds in, you can see a projection in the background with the Tokyo and Disneyland Resort Paris logos which seems to say "Coming Soon!"?? I'm telling you now, if they dare to preview anything from Paris at D23, I'll be one devastated European fan.
I did hear a few wispers a couple of weeks ago that we could see a Ratatouille announcement at the Disney Parks' presentation tomorrow.
No idea about the reliability of that though.
Quote from: "Anthony"Thanks for the video!
Anyone notice that 32 seconds in, you can see a projection in the background with the Tokyo and Disneyland Resort Paris logos which seems to say "Coming Soon!"?? I'm telling you now, if they dare to preview anything from Paris at D23, I'll be one devastated European fan.
I wouldn't be that devastated if it was all leaked online. Doesn't seem like the parks section of the event is restricted regarding cameras etc anyway.
Quote from: "Anthony"Thanks for the video!
Anyone notice that 32 seconds in, you can see a projection in the background with the Tokyo and Disneyland Resort Paris logos which seems to say "Coming Soon!"?? I'm telling you now, if they dare to preview anything from Paris at D23, I'll be one devastated European fan.
Don't worry!
Watch this video and you will see at the end the real & complete background. :wink:
[youtube:e1c5dlxz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucx5wb6lJvs[/youtube:e1c5dlxz]
Well I really want to ride Mystic Manor now! I guess HKDL deserves a great exclusive ride, and this one is definitely a first gate ride, and the theme is too similar for it to go in the same park as PM/HM. :cry:
However, if we are going to be rats, they can move really quick, especially when they are being chased by chefs. But MM and PHH both seem to move at a more relaxed pace. I wonder how that part of the excitement is going to be worked in? :?:
Have you seen Pooh's Hunny Hunt in Tokyo? If not, it will blow you away (excuse the pun):
[youtube:ggjcpp6h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFWhL262u8A[/youtube:ggjcpp6h]
It's mainly the ride system we're looking at here, but wow, look at it: You enter the ride as a double-up of two cars (not connected), and actually stop dead in the first scene before being "blown" separately onto the next, where Tigger makes you bounce up and down. Then, you suddenly move out of that scene... backwards! Further on, in the Heffalumps scene, all the vehicles move all over the place and criss-cross each other.
I think they'll achieve the feeling of a rat running between the kitchen appliances by that stopping and starting motion. They also move much faster than the Omnimover in PM anyway, more like Pinocchio (but with the free motion and stop/start allowing you to actually see the scenes).
Really, anyone who says "why don't they just build Midway Mania" is nuts!
That is terrific, my worries are gone! =D> =D>
WOW that pooh ride is awesome :D wouldnt mind a copy of it lol overhere rather than ratatouie
Tokyo Disneyland's official video of the attraction gives you a better view of the actual ride vehicles and the route they take:
[youtube:375r2sk2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWhmFDqUXRI&feature=channel_page[/youtube:375r2sk2]
o0o0o0 thnaks for that video alan it rlly is a great ride and pooh is too cute hehecant wait if somthing opens like this is paris :D
That ride system looks great!
Thanks for posting the videos , the Tokyo version does look amazing !! Would not object to a clone of that in the park !! And the sort of ride that would be incredibly popular !!
Does anyone know what the capacity it like on Pooh's Hunny Hunt in Tokyo?
I mean, this is no Omnimover or Pirates of the Caribbean. There aren't many seats per car and it'll have a much larger audience than Crush's Coaster. What's to stop Ratatouille just joining Crush as yet another WDS ride with a horribly long queue? From what I've read about the ride in Tokyo, it's the first thing they run to when the gates open, with people camping out for 3hrs in line and Fastpasses like gold dust.
Thanks for posting! That looks so cool. Forget about Ratatouille. Give me that Pooh ride, please. I'm in love with that silly old bear. This would fit nicely in our Fantasyland. Preferrably alongside The Little Mermaid darkride... I'll keep on dreaming, though...
This is hardly new information, but I think the Ratatouille ride will be built next to the Costuming building, rather than replacing it:
(//http://www.imgdash.com/uploads/ccdcf_rat.jpg)
Does that mean that the STT will run between the costume building and the Ratatouille building? How will Ratatouille be connected to TSPL when the STT route runs in front of the building?
Quote from: "dagobert"Does that mean that the STT will run between the costume building and the Ratatouille building? How will Ratatouille be connected to TSPL when the STT route runs in front of the building?
A good question! Was thinking about that one myself...
How about a dark, secret tunnel like sewer????
Does the Studio Tram Tour even go past the costuming building any more? Is that still part of the tour? I haven't been on it in a few years.
No, the Tram Tour now follows the same route to and from Catastrophe Canyon (past Dinotopia), with that extra curve to allow space for TSPL. Its days of showing us the wonders of the costuming building appear to be gone for good.
It's off topic, but I will not miss the costume building on the STT route. In my opinion it was the worst part of the tour.
I really hope that Ratatouille will get built.
Quote from: "dagobert"Does that mean that the STT will run between the costume building and the Ratatouille building? How will Ratatouille be connected to TSPL when the STT route runs in front of the building?
So we now have the answer to your question.
The Studio Tram Tour WON'T run between the Costuming Building and the Ratatouille Building. Because of this, it will be quite easy to connect Ratatouille up with Toy Story Playland, via a path, because the Studio Tram Tour WON'T be running in front of the building.
Once the Ratatouille ride is built, I really hope they demolish the Costuming Building and replace it with either:
- Toy Story Mania
- Monsters, Inc. Ride n' Go Seek!
- Sci Fi Dine-In Theater restaurant (themed to Pixar's Cars)
Is it already certain that Ratatouille will be built? Have you seen a plan that shows the Ratatouille building and the STT route?
No, it's not certain at all as far as we know. And no-one has seen any plans.
This was requested a while ago, a plan of what everything will look like come 2010...
(//http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2421/2010q.jpg)
I'm not sure of the exact curve of the STT route between Dinotopia and the back of Toy Story Playland, but that's about right. I also didn't want to jinx Ratatouille by actually typing it on there -- for any newcomers, we're talking about the big green area to the right of what will be yet another temporary backstage gate.
Don't know about anyone else, but in my mind I'm imagining the corner of Gusteau's restaurant as seen in the film, with a fountain and some Parisian street dressing in front of it. But you never know... they could make it all giant, rat-sized, forced perspective, to follow on from TSPL.
(//http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/images_movies/rat_d232_thumb.jpg)
This ride might be a badly kept secret, but for once we know virtually nothing about what to expect.
Offtopic; Wow, from this ive only just realised how HUGE the costume building is, imagine what attractions your could fit in there !
Thanks for the map, Anthony!!
I really hope that WDS will get a Ratatouille based restaurant!!!
Unfortunately, last rumour we heard, the adjoining restaurant had been cancelled hadn't it? :roll:
Soon the restaurants in Val d'Europe will be nearer than any in WDS...
Why don't they just 'use' the costume building for the Ratatouille darkride? Wouldn't that be cheaper then building it from scratch? It seems stupid to put Ratatouille behind that building. You only have 1 entrance/exit for the whole TSP and Ratatouille area if they do not want to use the custome building. That path will be crowded as hell I guess.
Quote from: "Tuvok"Why don't they just 'use' the costume building for the Ratatouille darkride? Wouldn't that be cheaper then building it from scratch? It seems stupid to put Ratatouille behind that building. You only have 1 entrance/exit for the whole TSP and Ratatouille area if they do not want to use the custome building. That path will be crowded as hell I guess.
Ratatouille requires a really tall building, think IASW or POTC. And there will be more then one path of course. :)
Quote from: "Kristof"Ratatouille requires a really tall building, think IASW or POTC. And there will be more then one path of course. :)
Yes, I know, but couldn't they just incorporate that building into the new Ratatouille ride (and make it larger of course)? Seems cheaper then building something new and besides, now we have several rides
around that costume building. Were is that second path going to be? The way Anthony has drawn it, there is no room for a second path. Don't tell me there will be a path on the right side of the costume building connecting Toon Studio with Ratatouille. That would be lame.
The way we get info on TSP, or better, lack of official info, I think it will be a long time before we know exactly how the ride will be placed. Interesting layout, though.
Why did Disney built the costume building there? Was it already there when they built the WDS and they made some changes for the STT route?
Is this building used for both parks or just for WDS?
Quote from: "Tuvok"Quote from: "Kristof"Ratatouille requires a really tall building, think IASW or POTC. And there will be more then one path of course. :)
Yes, I know, but couldn't they just incorporate that building into the new Ratatouille ride (and make it larger of course)? Seems cheaper then building something new and besides, now we have several rides around that costume building. Were is that second path going to be? The way Anthony has drawn it, there is no room for a second path. Don't tell me there will be a path on the right side of the costume building connecting Toon Studio with Ratatouille. That would be lame.
The way we get info on TSP, or better, lack of official info, I think it will be a long time before we know exactly how the ride will be placed. Interesting layout, though.
Yeah, but it has been rumoured that the Ratatouille shop will go in the old costuming workshop.
QuoteWhy did Disney built the costume building there? Was it already there when they built the WDS and they made some changes for the STT route?
Is this building used for both parks or just for WDS?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it opened around 2000. It's used for both Disneyland Park and Walt Disney Studios Park. CM's have to pick up their costumes here and there's also a Caribbean themed restaurant inside (on the right side).
Disney Village and each of the hotels have their own wardrobe department.
QuoteAnd there will be more then one path of course. :)
I take it that's wishful thinking :wink:
WoW just look what i found on Disneycentralplaza....
(//http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/11/37/83/24/ratato13.jpg)
Wow... That would be great! Hope this is true. Begin 2010 there would be more information on the next investments for DLP (disneytheque).
On Themepark.nl I have read they are actually planning the menu for the Ratatouille restaurant. So it seems they finally see the need for more F&B in WDS.
O my! I have rats myself so this is definitly nice :D!!!
Wow, I really, really hope these rumours about the Ratatouille ride and restaurant are true!!
That does seem like a clever location for the showbuilding, it looks like it'd line up with the showbuilding from Phantom Manor, and help even more to block the view from Frontierland of RC Racer.
It might be an old plan though, as it shows the two tracks for RC Racer still. I agree with above, it'd be nice to see the restaurant go ahead in costuming, it'd help to make that side of the park a bit more rounded. Especially if they worked some guest toilets into it too.
I do wonder though, with the ride going in here, it feels like there'll be a bit of an unbalance in the park? The majority of the rides are now on the left of Tower, with the 'experience' attractions and shows on the right. Is this because of the limited room to the right?
Interesting how the green path area sort of "funnels" into the attraction and restaurant building. Perhaps it could be like a smaller version of the France pavilion at Epcot:
(//http://www.plan-a-magical-vacation.com/images/epcot-france.jpg)
Could turn out to be quite a nice little area. :)
Meanwhile, probably best if they don't draw too much inspiration from that — You don't want to end up with California Adventure syndrome. Having a faux Eiffel Tower where you can just about see the real thing on a clear day.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Meanwhile, probably best if they don't draw too much inspiration from that — You don't want to end up with California Adventure syndrome. Having a faux Eiffel Tower where you can just about see the real thing on a clear day.
True, but if it has one it will probably be a forced persepctive one like in EPCOT.
Plus I would imagine the weenie would be Gusteau's - complete with sign and all.
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but the section sticking out on the left must surely be the corner of Gusteau's:
(//http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2009/12/28_ratatouille_02.jpg)
It's the exact same shape.
Also interesting how it appears to connect with the costuming building. Even if this is an old plan, it shows they've been thinking of doing what a lot of people suggest.
Edit:
I was going to say it's smaller than I imagined, maybe I thought it'd fill the whole spot, but here's a quick comparison showing the building is actually pretty big - and of course very, very similar in shape to a certain other attraction:
(//http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz181/DLRPMagic/Ratplans.jpg)
And with the trackless system space doesn't necessarily equal duration, since the same scene can be circled several times, changing all the time.
It can't be stated enough how much the park needs this ride.
Great research Anthony. You put a lot of thought and energy into your posts.
They better get started building that Ratatouille ride if they want it open by 12 April 2012!
Good point Alan, what was the timeline for Crush to compare, does anyone know - do they still have time or when would they need to start????
There's loads of time - it's two and a half years away yet!
I'm wondering whether they'll do anything to the huge wall of the costuming building:
(//http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/jacoaster/Costuming01.jpg)
Quote from: "Anthony"It can't be stated enough how much the park needs this ride.
Hi
Please be gentle this is my first post and question -
Why does this park need this ride and not something else that is more exciting :?:
Quote from: "electricdreams"Why does this park need this ride and not something else that is more exciting :?:
In my opinion it is because a dark-ride is the key thing missing from this park, it would also be the first original E-Ticket for the park ? (not 100% sure)
Most likely the ride would have a large capacity which would take ease of the most recent low capacity additions to toon studio.
And it would bring a beautiful french placmaking to the park, and if where lucky a shop, restaurant and TOILETS ! :P
Quote from: "Owain"Quote from: "electricdreams"Why does this park need this ride and not something else that is more exciting :?:
In my opinion it is because a dark-ride is the key thing missing from this park, it would also be the first original E-Ticket for the park ? (not 100% sure)
Well I would say Moteurs Action and maybe even Cinemagique would fit the bill as the first original E's in WDSP.
Anyway, back to the original question. WDSP is the only prk out of the 11 not to have a family friends ride with AA's.
Its a strange question , but what do you mean with 'E-ticket' ? I see and use it everywhere , but i dont even know what it means!
Ontopic :I hope they will serve some ratatouille meal as well , it must be a total experience.
I did put the video of the new rides together :
[youtube:zient9nq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_-pKPcYOd0[/youtube:zient9nq]
When Disneyland, the Magic Kindom and Tokyo Disneyland opened, you did not have pay to get in passports that covered all the rides. Instead you paid to get in and then paid for each attraction (though you could buy ticket books that saved you money). Passports came in in the 1980's and then ticket books were phased out over the early 80's.
The attractions were rated A - E - A being either the simplest or cheapest to operate, E being the most popular or expensive to operate. And the prices varied accordingly.
A's were typically attractions such as the Omnibus, E's were attractions like Pirates of the Caribbean, Big Thunder and It's a Small World. Sometimes attractions had their own tickets that you had to buy seperately (like the train in the early days or the Enchanted Tiki Room), and sometimes attractions were free.
It was not uncommon for the designation to change either. The Mark Twain for example used to be an E ticket.
DLP never had them, and anything built after the late 80's are up for debate as to where they would place, but they have been a key term even outside of Disney.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket)
This page gives you a great example of what attractions each ticket covered.
http://www.yesterland.com/abcde.html (http://www.yesterland.com/abcde.html)
Not that I am keen to return to this, I do remember the queues were a lot more manageable, and people had a more spread out approach to the park, e.g. instead of just riding BTM 12 times in the trip, they would actually take time out for things like the horsedrawn Streetcar and Carousel. Also, the Autopia queues were much shorter.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Anyway, back to the original question. WDSP is the only prk out of the 11 not to have a family friends ride with AA's.
That never occurred to me before ! Some hint as to why the magic is lacking maybe :roll:
As an after thought is the shark in Crush an AA ? He doesn't move much though !
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"When Disneyland, the Magic Kindom and Tokyo Disneyland opened, you did not have pay to get in passports that covered all the rides. Instead you paid to get in and then paid for each attraction (though you could buy ticket books that saved you money). Passports came in in the 1980's and then ticket books were phased out over the early 80's.
The attractions were rated A - E - A being either the simplest or cheapest to operate, E being the most popular or expensive to operate. And the prices varied accordingly.
A's were typically attractions such as the Omnibus, E's were attractions like Pirates of the Caribbean, Big Thunder and It's a Small World. Sometimes attractions had their own tickets that you had to buy seperately (like the train in the early days or the Enchanted Tiki Room), and sometimes attractions were free.
It was not uncommon for the designation to change either. The Mark Twain for example used to be an E ticket.
DLP never had them, and anything built after the late 80's are up for debate as to where they would place, but they have been a key term even outside of Disney.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket)
Thanks for clearing that up as i too didn't understand the term
Quote from: "Timbo"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Anyway, back to the original question. WDSP is the only prk out of the 11 not to have a family friends ride with AA's.
That never occurred to me before ! Some hint as to why the magic is lacking maybe :roll:
As an after thought is the shark in Crush an AA ? He doesn't move much though !
Nope, the only proper AA's in WDSP are the seagulls in the Crush queue (an attraction with size and health limitations) :(
Thought of them too , but didn't think they counted as they aren't on the ride as such ! But they are one of the best bits of the attraction !
It seems Ratatouille has a go for 2012 (according to Disneytheque). They state preperations start in 2010.
Well at least it must already be an award-winner: Most Green-Lit Attraction Ever.
I would rather wait before I get to excited about it until Disney have confirmed it them self that this will be happening as it could be easy to say that work will start on any day
I am also sure we would of read something official regarding (if) they were to use the costume department building and extend it about the permission / plans for this building?
Yeah, it's strange that the plan shows the new building connecting right up with the costuming workshop. Even if they don't knock through and use the costuming building for the ride/restaurant/shop, that'd block out their windows... Perhaps they'd move, but where to?
Quote from: "Anthony"Even if they don't knock through and use the costuming building for the ride/restaurant/shop, that'd block out their windows... Perhaps they'd move, but where to?
Considering that the Tram Tour is passing / past by those windows - through a tunnel no less - I suppose the working conditions would not change for the costuming crew.
For the CMs of both parks I'd be quite happy if the costuming building would remain as it is - it could hardly be any more convenient for them.
(They used to change clothes back in the Baloo building - which is at the far end of the backstage area - which resulted in horrible commutes...)
Quote from: "experiment627"Quote from: "Anthony"Even if they don't knock through and use the costuming building for the ride/restaurant/shop, that'd block out their windows... Perhaps they'd move, but where to?
Considering that the Tram Tour is passing / past by those windows - through a tunnel no less - I suppose the working conditions would not change for the costuming crew.
For the CMs of both parks I'd be quite happy if the costuming building would remain as it is - it could hardly be any more convenient for them.
(They used to change clothes back in the Baloo building - which is at the far end of the backstage area - which resulted in horrible commutes...)
The tram stopped passing through the windows a wee while ago now when the tram route was re-designed to allow for the expansion of WDS and the building of TSPL
But as I said if there were to be building anything I am sure we would of found something about this as they would need to get planning permission to build and so far I have not seen any?
Having a tram pass by to having no windows is a bit of a difference. It'd only be the workshop that'd need to move (possibly just somewhere else in the building), not the general CM areas. Weren't there rumours that a Ratatouille shop might be opened there? That corner seems to fit...
Quote from: "bigrossco"But as I said if there were to be building anything I am sure we would of found something about this as they would need to get planning permission to build and so far I have not seen any?
Before any building (presuming it's greenlit) they've got a lot of trees to clear, which they do have permission for. :wink:
Thanks to one page of discussions on the Disney Central Plaza forum, and a quick internet translation, we might have uncovered some exciting new information on Ratatouille...
[spoiler:rz1c7bev]
Quote from: "La Rouquine"Well, John Lasseter has spoken to several people spoke in Imagineering, a model exists and plans are being developed.
...
Otherwise, over the history of costuming, leave it where it is.
Even if eventually it will ask the question of allowing such a building encroaching on the surface of Toon Studio, there is absolutely no question of moving to accommodate Ratatouille.
The only part that is intended to close by 2011/2012 is the workshop that manufactures uniforms for performances and was visible from Studio Tram Tour.
This wonderful attraction no longer passing through there, there was more interest to preserve the studio where he is now ...
After removal, the available space should be used to store an accompanying Ratatouille.
Quote from: "La Rouquine"Once again a model of this attraction exists.
The attraction is scheduled to be built on several floors, which certainly would explain the modest size of the building ...
[/spoiler:rz1c7bev]
I just got a bit more excited! :mrgreen:
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Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"I just got a bit more excited! :mrgreen:
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So did I :D :D :D
I love hearing little bits about rumoured attractions, lets just hope this one actually does make it into the park [-o<
Exactly what I was just remembering from the earlier rumours above - in these plans the workshop would move to make space for a Ratatouille boutique! Very clever, and does make you wonder if they've thought about dressing up the side. Something like the windows of the old Disney animation studios (like they have at the back of the animation building in DCA (//http://www.mpimages.net/dlr/compressed/DCA/Hollywood_Pictures_Backlot/ToT-040204-AVP.jpg)) would be perfect.
It's so great when these rumours we've gradually heard turn out to be true.
Several floors? That just bumped the price tag up. Surely the ride itself couldn't be on two floors, but a restaurant or queue/pre-show areas could be in a floor above part of the ride.
Disneydavid, this video is the creation of the Disneytheque.
How can you use these images, remove our logos :shock: ??
Please remove it, or edit it to keep the Disneytheque.com intro.
For Ratatouille, you must think about one thing: we don't have any money.
The ride will not be a LPS or with a lot of AA, but "new technology" can help to remind an old rumour... About a big event with Disney...
Quote from: "Thedeejay"For Ratatouille, you must think about one thing: we don't have any money.
Then we should not be building attractions until we do, or go cap in hand to WDC.
(I said that because my vocabulary isn't very large... of course they have money, but reduce the costs is the goal. So don't expect a big dark ride with AA etc.)
Quote from: "Thedeejay"The ride will not be a LPS or with a lot of AA, but "new technology" can help to remind an old rumour... About a big event with Disney...
I know your intentions are good, but these little "clues" are really annoying :shock:
I don't like guessing games, either you're willing to post the information you know or you're not? If you're not, then that's fine, just come back and post the info when you can :)
Quote from: "Thedeejay"Disneydavid, this video is the creation of the Disneytheque.
How can you use these images, remove our logos :shock: ??
Please remove it, or edit it to keep the Disneytheque.com intro.
Please use the PM system for these kind of remarks...
Yes, Paris doesn't have as much money as other resorts but you don't need hundreds of millions to make a world class attraction.
Disney/WDI needs to learn to make their money go a little bit further than it has done in the past.
These huge corporations waste so much money on pointless things, if they were more careful with the cash there would be more available to be spent on attractions.
Should DLRP go to WDC and ask for more money though? In my opinion, Yes!
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I'm still undecided about Ratatouille, a part of me is just expecting a standard dark ride....
Quote from: "Willow"I'm still undecided about Ratatouille, a part of me is just expecting a standard dark ride....
Even a Pinocchio or Snow White would still be wildly fantastical for WDS!
But I'm imagining projections and so on would be used a lot, especially if you're shrunk to rat size. Looking again at Pooh's Hunny Hunt, there aren't any truly amazing Animatronics in there, it's the free-roaming show and clever effects that make it.
The scene in the movie when Remy is first dropped into the kitchen is very exciting. If they can re-create that then it will be amazing :D/ :D/ . But I'd love to see some of the nice character moments too.
Quote from: "Anthony"Even a Pinocchio or Snow White would still be wildly fantastical for WDS!
I agree. If Ratatouille is roughly equivalent to those rides — that is to say, managing to be enchanting despite a cardboard quality, and with a nice exterior — I will be very happy... For children, I mean.
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Willow"I'm still undecided about Ratatouille, a part of me is just expecting a standard dark ride....
Even a Pinocchio or Snow White would still be wildly fantastical for WDS!
But I'm imagining projections and so on would be used a lot, especially if you're shrunk to rat size. Looking again at Pooh's Hunny Hunt, there aren't any truly amazing Animatronics in there, it's the free-roaming show and clever effects that make it.
I can't believe that they would have the 20th anniversary ride something on the same scale as Snow White. Plus we know that they have 300million of cash, despite the loss last year, and if they are going to spend on clones of Star Tours and The Little Mermaid then why not on a great original?. Forced perspective, trackless system and AAs combined should make for an amazing ride....
Quote from: "andrewuk"Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Willow"I'm still undecided about Ratatouille, a part of me is just expecting a standard dark ride....
Even a Pinocchio or Snow White would still be wildly fantastical for WDS!
But I'm imagining projections and so on would be used a lot, especially if you're shrunk to rat size. Looking again at Pooh's Hunny Hunt, there aren't any truly amazing Animatronics in there, it's the free-roaming show and clever effects that make it.
I can't believe that they would have the 20th anniversary ride something on the same scale as Snow White. Plus we know that they have 300million of cash, despite the loss last year, and if they are going to spend on clones of Star Tours and The Little Mermaid then why not on a great original?. Forced perspective, trackless system and AAs combined should make for an amazing ride....
Euro Disney SCA has 300mio of cash?? Where does this money come from? With this amount of money they can easily build a great Ratatouille ride and there is still money left for Star Tours 2 and maybe for another small attraction.
340 million to be exact!
//http://corporate.disneylandparis.com/CORP/EN/Neutral/Images/uk-2009-11-12-euro-disney-sca-reports-annual-results-for-fiscal-year-2009.pdf
I'm fascinated by this.
I was very impressed by the mini Rene AA in the Rendevous Resteraunt, he looked and moved exactly how he did in the film! If they can re-capture this again in this ride, then I'll over the moon with impression and 'oh-my-god-a-wonderful-new-ride' happiness. :D
//http://www.davidmackeydrywall.com/.
Interesting. 8)
Quote from: "RnRCj"//http://www.davidmackeydrywall.com/.
Interesting. 8)
Very Interesting, good find :)
For those of you looking at the like wondering what on Earth we are talking about (like I have just done for the last five minutes :roll: ), it's the website for drywall constructors located in California (home of the original Disneyland and Imagineering). The interesting Rataouille element can be seen in the column on the right:
QuoteDisney Radius Dome Construction
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Ratatouille Ride Element
Now doesn't that look exciting!?! :mrgreen:
Very exciting indeed :mrgreen:
Now we ask, what could this possible "ride element" be? A cage perhaps? Or even one of those things used to cover up food on a plate (the name escapes me)? Whatever it is lets hope it's true and we'll been served with a treat ;) :P
See what i did there?.... I'll get my coat..
Eeeek this is exciting! and what a good find RnRCj, hats off to you for coming across this!
I'd like more glimmers of hope like this in the near future [-o<
The excitement-ometer just exploded.
It could be anything, but it says the words "Ratatouille Ride" and it's in Burbank. That's enough. :lol:
Woow!!
Judging by the size of it, and the suggested plots, perhaps we can expect passengers of the ride vehicles will find themselves trapped in there? Or mabye just an AA??
The plot thickens......
Anyone else think that it might not be a cage? The metal could just be a general frame of another scenary element.
Especially as the company does things relating to dry walls, and not metal theming.
I'm thinking it may be part of the building roof structure - although it'd be weird for that to be built when it doesn't appear any plans have been submitted yet. The style does seem to match the domes on the non-tower section of the ToT building.
That's exciting. So if this cage-thing is really for a Ratatouille ride in Paris, construction could beginn soon. But that means nothing new for DLP, no TLM ride.
As a Disney Pin collector, I came across the new DLRP pin releases for this month. Look at the pin on the lower left corner. It says: "Pin Attraction Ratatouille EL, 900ex, 11,90 Euro". How about that! Is the pin trading department giving us a hint? I sure does look that way! Next week Euro Disney S.C.A. will annouce the 2010 first quater revenues. I don't think they have anything good to report, so what better timing then announcing the 20th anniversary attraction: Ratatouille! :wink:
http://dlrpfan.files.wordpress.com/2010 ... -large.jpg (http://dlrpfan.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/pintrading-february2010-large.jpg%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
With my post of the last page I was slightly sceptical about the concept of the ride and whether it would be the best attraction to spend the money on, however now I've read this DLRP news item.....
http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/02/05/rid ... ille-dome/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/02/05/riding-into-the-ratatouille-dome/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
..... I'm becoming more enthusiastic about the idea. The Imagineers seem to be coming up with some interesting stuff. I think a projection screen inside a Dark Ride such as this could be fantastic.
This really could be the Space Mountain De la Terre á La Lune of the 21ST century, a truly wonderful attraction to change DLP forever. With a little luck, this could be the best attraction EVER created!
Maybe we don't want to hype this up too much, because I seem to remember we did the same with Crush and then that was just a coaster in a box with most of its effects cut. How do we know this dome projection system will actually make it to Paris?
But just to ignore myself for a minute, this is exactly what I dreamt of for this project. Being totally immersed in a fast-moving, projection-filled dark ride. Mr Toad's Wild Ride at rat size for the 21st Century with a bit (and I stress "bit") of Spider-Man thrown in (with the projection effects). The only thing to diminish it is that the email I received mentioned... track. But then he said himself, he only really knew what the dome was for.
Anyone on here been on the Spider-Man ride at Islands of Adventure? If you take off your 3-D glasses during the ride, the screens still appear to have depth to them, due to the "squinching" effect. Basically, the projection on the screens is distorted relative to the position of the vehicle.
It would be SO cool and SO effective if Disney built a dark-ride with 2-D projection screens, but with the "squinching" effect. Like I said, the projection doesn't need to be in 3-D for the screens to appear to be a window; an extension of the real set into a virtual world.
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Confused.
How big is this dome? How many viehicles are expected to fit inside? Because if its like the Pooh Honey Hunt, then does that not mean that its going to be pretty cramped in there? If if not, is there going to be a dome for each viehicle?
Quote from: "Columbiad"Confused.
How big is this dome? How many viehicles are expected to fit inside? Because if its like the Pooh Honey Hunt, then does that not mean that its going to be pretty cramped in there? If if not, is there going to be a dome for each viehicle?
26 feet high x 30 feet wide. (Or 8 metres x 9 metres).
Quote from: "Columbiad"How big is this dome? How many viehicles are expected to fit inside? Because if its like the Pooh Honey Hunt, then does that not mean that its going to be pretty cramped in there? If if not, is there going to be a dome for each viehicle?
That done was just a model!
I'm not sure but they won't make it so small, will they?
I hope WDI won't let us down with this new ride... :roll:
Another rumour regarding the capacity cropped up over on the dlp.info forum:
//http://forum.mousekingdom.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=83436&mode=full&page=
Hmm, the post must not mean anything , there isn't any source! :(
Quote from: "Tuvok"As a Disney Pin collector, I came across the new DLRP pin releases for this month. Look at the pin on the lower left corner. It says: "Pin Attraction Ratatouille EL, 900ex, 11,90 Euro". How about that! Is the pin trading department giving us a hint? I sure does look that way! Next week Euro Disney S.C.A. will annouce the 2010 first quater revenues. I don't think they have anything good to report, so what better timing then announcing the 20th anniversary attraction: Ratatouille! :wink:
http://dlrpfan.files.wordpress.com/2010 ... -large.jpg (http://dlrpfan.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/pintrading-february2010-large.jpg%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Perhaps the ride vehicles will be teacups?
Quote from: "andrewuk"Another rumour regarding the capacity cropped up over on the dlp.info forum:
That it'll be between Tower of Terror and Small World? Very specific...
Quote from: "SM:M3"Perhaps the ride vehicles will be teacups?
The pin is for Mad Hatter's Tea Cups, Remy and Emile were just thrown in as characters.
Quote from: "Mrs. Jennes"Hmm, the post must not mean anything , there isn't any source! :(
That's why I said 'rumour', but as Meeko has put his location as Chessy I guess that he's a CM.
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "andrewuk"Another rumour regarding the capacity cropped up over on the dlp.info forum:
That it'll be between Tower of Terror and Small World? Very specific...
But at least, if it's true, it means that it won't be another very low capacity popular ride like Crush or Peter Pan.
Isn't just about everything related to Ratatouille a rumour? There's is nothing official, so please keep posting these interesting quote's, andrew! ;-)
Thanks Tuvok, live long and prosper! A bit more on Ratatouille from the latest disneyandmore blog. I just hope that Ratatouille will more than make up for the very underwhelming TSPL.
Quote from: "disneyandmore"In my previous update i told you that the park did a financial plan which was sent to the banks and that everybody was waiting for its approval. Although nothing official has been announced yet it seems that the attraction is on good tracks and Glendale and DLPI Imagineers should begin to work soon on the project for a 2012 opening. A Paris themed area is expected and may be a Ratatouille restaurant which would be perfectly logical as the restaurant is almost a character in the movie
I hope that 'on good tracks' isn't a double meaning, we want to be trackless!
Some interesting information, it seems Ratatouille isn't planned for the 20th anniversary in 2012 at all, but instead for 2013. They want to recreate the 15th Anniversary effect.
Quote from: "Kristof"Some interesting information, it seems Ratatouille isn't planned for the 20th anniversary in 2012 at all, but instead for 2013. They want to recreate the 15th Anniversary effect.
Is there something else planned for 2012 instead of Ratatouille and does that mean they made a decision to build it for sure?
Interesting... Earlier on I wondering to myself when we might hear some more info about this attraction. I would still love for something to be in the pipeline for 2012, but surely if there was to be a new attraction, we would have heard about it by now?
Quote from: "Kristof"Some interesting information, it seems Ratatouille isn't planned for the 20th anniversary in 2012 at all, but instead for 2013. They want to recreate the 15th Anniversary effect.
That's interesting indeed. Untill now I thought that the roadmap would be as followed (based on rumours):
2012: Ratatouille (WDS)
2013: Star Tours 2.0 (DLP)
2014: The Little Mermaid (DLP)
Since Ratatouille is now pushed back to 2013, will Star Tours 2.0 be the 2012 attraction? That would be a whole lot 'cheaper' to re-built and considering the current financial state of the resort...
Or will they have a surprise for us? Oh let's say, something called Splash Mountain perhaps? :wink: Whishful thinking ofcourse, but hey, we can only hope, right? Then again, that would mean we get two major E-Ticket rides in a two year span. That ain't gonna happen!
Wednesday we will know more... (Combined General Meeting @ CineMagique).
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "Kristof"Some interesting information, it seems Ratatouille isn't planned for the 20th anniversary in 2012 at all, but instead for 2013. They want to recreate the 15th Anniversary effect.
Is there something else planned for 2012 instead of Ratatouille and does that mean they made a decision to build it for sure?
I'm afraid only Ratatouille is 100% certain, all the rest is just rumours...
At least Ratatouille is certain and for me doesn't matter if it will open in 2012 or in 2013 as long as it is a great D or E-ticket attraction that is very well desingned.
Kristof, do you know if the rumoured restaurant will also be built?
Maybe DLP will receive an addition in 2012, although I highly doubt it.
I'm afraid I have no information about the restaurant or shop. As soon as I find out more, I'll post it here right away. ;-)
Let's hope if they add a restaurant to the Ratatouille area, that they add some toilets too. There aren't enough in WDS!
QuoteA Paris themed area is expected and may be a Ratatouille restaurant which would be perfectly logical as the restaurant is almost a character in the movie
A parisian area in the Studio's park..... Meh?
Is it now 100%ly sure that there will be this attraction???
and if so, will it be built behind the "costume building" or where this building is now? :?:
Quote from: "dagobert"At least Ratatouille is certain and for me doesn't matter if it will open in 2012 or in 2013 as long as it is a great D or E-ticket attraction that is very well desingned.
That is different to what I have heard.
As far as I have was told, it is only 100% certain that California/WDI is working on the detailed design of a Ratatouille Darkride, but it is not certain if it will really be built.
It went past Blue Sky, there are people working on the details of how it would be built it, but there is no financial approval to really built the ride, yet.
Netjack, depends on when you heard this... ;-)
Don't remember the exact date, but it was at some point by the end of last month. Maybe 2 Weeks ago.
Then your source must have been misinformed. :-)
all rumours and nothing factual...thats a fact !
I'm sure we'll get an official confirmation from DLP when the ride is almost finished building. :twisted:
I can't believe no one has any factual insider info to share on this topic except pure rumours :(
From page 9 of this topic...
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Where is Catastrophe Canyon on that plan.....?
To the left of Remy I think
Taken from other topic:
QuotePixar have made some very popular films
Very true. Infact, the Pixar/Disney films are the ones that people look forward to the most. When was the last time Disney made a very successful cartoon film, on their own?
With regards to park characters etc, it is Disney themself that is letting the parks down, as they're now making so many films (with the majority of them bing flops) its hard for the parks to keep on top of the characters.
Quoteinfact I don't think they've had a flop yet.
Ratouille isn't
that well known of. And wasn't the best/most popular film either. Thats why I find it a bit odd that there may be this big Rat dark ride. They need to stick with the popular films, like Nemo, Toy Story and..... Monsters Inc. A Monsters dark ride would be MUCH more popular than Rat...
I thought Ratouille was well known, especially in France, the film is set in Paris. I think it will go down well in WDS Paris. Nemo ( Crushes Coaster) and Toy Story (TSPL) will be covered in Toon Stoon. On a personal level I'm not so keen on Monsters. I like Wall-E and Up best. I don't know where Up would fit in though.
I personally really loved Ratatouille when I first saw it, and I think it would fit perfect in the studios in France, with Paris just around the corner! :D
Quote from: "Martyn"Ratouille isn't that well known of. And wasn't the best/most popular film either. Thats why I find it a bit odd that there may be this big Rat dark ride. They need to stick with the popular films, like Nemo, Toy Story and..... Monsters Inc. A Monsters dark ride would be MUCH more popular than Rat...
I don't think they should just stick to Toy Story/Nemo/Monsters when creating new attractions, there's no sense in that when all of the films they have released hold so much potential with regards to taking guests to different worlds. I think Ratatouille will be an amazing attraction if it gets built in WDS, it's certainly one of my favourite Disney/Pixar films!
From disneygazette.fr (//http://www.disneygazette.fr/projets-rehabilitations-travaux-ratatouille-toy-story-playland-world-of-disney-captain-eo-news-353.html)
*Admin deleted backstage photo*
Promising!
Wow, is that real? Exact location, right park, right name, mysterious boxes. I think that's enough evidence to conclude a Ratatouille ride is definitely coming to WDS.
That news really made my day! Although there could be 100 living Ratatouille characters in there... xD
who knows or maybe dare I say it photoshopped?
would rather wait until we here 'official' word on this well thats me anyway before I get to excited, sure looks promissing though!
:shock:
Very excited by this... We've been really spoilt with teaser pics today, first the Disney Village WOD Store, now this! I can't take anymore excitement! :D
Photo is still available via the link - but has been removed for being a backstage photo?
My theory is that DLP are intentionally teasing the fan community. Surely they wouldn't put loads of boxes with "Ratatouille" clearly marked on them in plain view like that?! :lol:
I was going to Photoshop it and change the word "Ratatouille" to "Weapons of Mass Destruction," but Kristof would just remove it again.
QuotePhoto is still available via the link - but has been removed for being a backstage photo?
Yes, please read the magicforum rules (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5583):
Quote from: "magicforum rules"No 'backstage' photos
Photos taken in the "backstage" areas of the resort should not be posted. Not only does this spoil the magic, it could get us - or the person who took the photos - in trouble. This includes pictures of characters not in full costume.
QuoteI was going to Photoshop it and change the word "Ratatouille" to "Weapons of Mass Destruction," but Kristof would just remove it again.
Yes, by me or Anthony. Those are the house rules. :)
Quote from: "RnRCj"My theory is that DLP are intentionally teasing the fan community. Surely they wouldn't put loads of boxes with "Ratatouille" clearly marked on them in plain view like that?! :lol:
lol, it'd be so funny if they were actually just TSPL props or the Big Buzz in pieces, and DLP just wrote Ratatouille on them to wind us up :P
However come to think about it, perhaps it'd be a good idea for them to add a Parisian/Ratatouille feel/theme to that pathway now instead of leaving it bear and closing it slightly later on (when they build Rataouille). So maybe they will put a Ratatouille twist on that pathway now whilst it's closed off anyway? (Just an idea, don't blame me if I'm wrong!) ;)
Good idea Butlin Boy. While they've got that pathway closed off, they might as well theme it. It'd be cheaper and easier to do that now while it's not needed by park guests. I hope that's what they're doing. I mean, it should either be themed to Toy Story or Ratatouille. It shouldn't be left just totally plain and untouched.
Sorry to go off topic quickly, but I just have a quick question.... That link, them pics, how come Star Tours/Discovery Station is all fenced off?
Quote from: "Martyn"Sorry to go off topic quickly, but I just have a quick question.... That link, them pics, how come Star Tours/Discovery Station is all fenced off?
For the removal of the Stitch's Dance Time Dance Pads that were painted on the floor for MMP ;)
Thoses boxes could've been left over from the building of the new Rat Car for the Stars & Cars...?
Quote from: "Kristof"Yes, please read the magicforum rules (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5583):
Quote from: "magicforum rules"No 'backstage' photos
Photos taken in the "backstage" areas of the resort should not be posted. Not only does this spoil the magic, it could get us - or the person who took the photos - in trouble. This includes pictures of characters not in full costume.
I assumed this was the reason, but would have been nice if you could post up when you do this, as I only saw it because I went back up to the post. However, how is it ok for picture of TSPL etc. from over the top of fences etc., as these are also backstage?
Surely that picture is no worse than taking a picture of TSPL being built over the walls?
Quote from: "Magic M"Thoses boxes could've been left over from the building of the new Rat Car for the Stars & Cars...?
The car wasn't constructed on-site but at a backstage area somewhere further from the park, and surely that's a lot of left overs from one car? :P
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Quote from: "Martyn"Sorry to go off topic quickly, but I just have a quick question.... That link, them pics, how come Star Tours/Discovery Station is all fenced off?
For the removal of the Stitch's Dance Time Dance Pads that were painted on the floor for MMP ;)
Ahhh, right. Was that them horrible red, yellow and green circle things?
Glad to see them removed!
Quote from: "mehdi5"Quote from: "Magic M"Thoses boxes could've been left over from the building of the new Rat Car for the Stars & Cars...?
The car wasn't constructed on-site but at a backstage area somewhere further from the park, and surely that's a lot of left overs from one car? :P
I'm being optimistic about this, All that exciting Dome building in Glendale has put me in the mood for the very start of Ratatouille Construction here in DLP! BRING IT ON! :D
Quote from: "Alan"It shouldn't be left just totally plain and untouched.
But it probably will be. I'd still love to see that wall made to look like the windows of the Disney Bros Studio, like behind the animation building at DCA (photo (//http://www.mpimages.net/dlr/compressed/DCA/Hollywood_Pictures_Backlot/ToT-040204-AVP.jpg)), or like Pixar Studios at DHS... Something to tie all these disparate areas together.
The funny thing about those boxes is that someone appears to have written the whole word "RATATOUILLE" on every single one, at least 25 times. At that point you think they'd shorten it down to a few letters or an initial.
About those RATATOUILLE boxes, here's my prediction for what's inside them...
I reckon there's special custom-made paving tiles in them, that they'll use to pave the path that leads from the entrance to Toy Story Playland all the way back to Ratatouille. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
Quote from: "Alan"About those RATATOUILLE boxes, here's my prediction for what's inside them...
I reckon there's special custom-made paving tiles in them, that they'll use to pave the path that leads from the entrance to Toy Story Playland all the way back to Ratatouille. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
I hope you're right, it would be a nice change from the abundance of asphalt currently covering most of the Studio's floor :)
Another interesting rumour, it's being said a large Paris Blvd. would be added towards the Ratatouille ride. Maybe they're going to start on that to hide the Costuming building from TSPL.
Quote from: "Kristof"Another interesting rumour, it's being said a large Paris Blvd. would be added towards the Ratatouille ride. Maybe they're going to start on that to hide the Costuming building from TSPL.
Really? How fantastic, i hope to TOT effect comes in with Rat (ie, building Hollywood Boul. for TOT, I hope they do lots of place making around Rat to make it even better)
Well it would make a lot of sense.... the costuming building definitely needs to be hidden somehow.
Quote from: "RnRCj"Well it would make a lot of sense.... the costuming building definitely needs to be hidden somehow.
It would, just DLP isn't famous for it's common sense is it :P
Where would this Paris Blvd go then? Would look silly in between Toon Studio's and TSPL.....
Remember back when you could see all the way around the Costuming Building? Ah, those were the days :-)
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Nice pic - the costuming building looks rather nice back then - shame it got squashed by its neighbours. Odd that they built it in that location, as I assume they had plans to use the land for more rides from the start.
posted on DCP earlier today....
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It's at the right place... is work starting soon? :lol:
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sure looks like some kind of work is going on there anyway but what? who knows!
I think I can say with quite a bit of confidence that a Ratatouille dark-ride is really going to open at the Walt Disney Studios park, some time in 2012.
According to Disney and more, the Ratatouille darkride is confirmed and early ground work, as seen in the photo of DCP, has begun. By the end of the year, construction should start. The ride will propably open in 2013, not 2012. Although there is no confirmation yet, the most logical step for the resort would be opening Star Tours 2.0 in 2012 and Ratatouille in 2013.
Anayway, 'The Rat' is coming to Paris! Exciting news indeed!
Quote from: "Tuvok"Anayway, 'The Rat' is coming to Paris! Exciting news indeed!
YEEEHAAA! :D
Very happy !! :thumbs:
Awwww guys!Look what I found on disneycentralplaza.... :D
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It looks so nice on the map! :thumbs:
Just to be clear, that's not a "real" map. Someone's taken the France pavilion from World Showcase at Epcot and pasted into the map of the Walt Disney Studios. Here's the source:
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Quote from: "Alan"Just to be clear, that's not a "real" map. Someone's taken the France pavilion from World Showcase at Epcot and pasted into the map of the Walt Disney Studios. Here's the source:
(//http://www.disneyworld-guide.com/epcot%20center/epcot%2520center.jpg)
Hehe yeah I know,but just wanted to share how a preview of it would look on the map :) Thanks for informing me though :thumbs:
Nevertheless the person on DCP did a good job on creating the fake map.
It does look good on the map but I can hear the comments now about seeing that Eiffel tower from the lift hill on BTM :D
LooooL :P
Quote from: "Festival Disney"posted on DCP earlier today....
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It's at the right place... is work starting soon? :lol:
http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard. ... 179-20.htm (http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard.net/disneyland-paris-f6/future-attraction-ratatouille-au-parc-walt-disney-studios-t12179-20.htm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Ya see, with Rat on the right, and Crush on the left, they REALLY need to get rid of the costum building and have one large Toon Studio area!
The Costuming Building should be converted into one of the following:
• Toy Story Midway Mania! (interactive dark ride)
• Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater (restaurant with Pixar Cars theme)
• Monsters, Inc. Ride & Go Seek (interactive dark ride)
Or, the exteriors facing Cars, TSPL and Rat could be themed correspondingly and provide boutiques, food outlets etc increasing the overall placemaking without any new build.
If this has been moved to 2013, 2012 for Star Tours 2.0, what is planned for 2011? I expect they will incorporate Captain EO in as a new attraction, but they need something else.
I just hope this is a proper good dark ride, I mean top quality, on the scale on Pirates and Phantom Manor. Something like that would put the Studio's back on the map!
Isn't there ment to be a restaurant with the new ride?
Quote from: "Alan"The Costuming Building should be converted into one of the following:
• Toy Story Midway Mania! (interactive dark ride)
• Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater (restaurant with Pixar Cars theme)
• Monsters, Inc. Ride & Go Seek (interactive dark ride)
A Sci Fi Dine In would be great, but I would prefere a classic 1950s restaurant without any Cars characters. Disney should incorporate the Sci Fi Dine In into a new expanded Hollywood Boulevard.
I think the Monsters, Inc. ride (Tokyo version) would a great a replacement of the building. TSMM would also be a good replacement.
Quote from: "Martyn"I just hope this is a proper good dark ride, I mean top quality, on the scale on Pirates and Phantom Manor. Something like that would put the Studio's back on the map!
Isn't there ment to be a restaurant with the new ride?
You are talking about a REAL DISNEY ride. I really hope that Ratatouille will be a highly themed attraction.
TSMM then, ok, but what about the Toy Story overkill :? If it is TSMM, another Toy Story themed ride would be ok?
I suppose it could be, but I personally wouldn't care. Any kind of developement like that would make a massive difference to the Studio's
Am I the only one thinking that WDS is far too crowded? :P They are cramming far too much into such a small space - the tram tour takes up about half of the park! :lol:
I'm all up for a Paris version of Pixar Studios - which would split the current toon studios into two, and maybe the ImagiNations building could be converted to some sort of exhibition, something a tad educational detailing the history of Pixar? I know it's not that realistic, but a Monster's Inc attraction of some sort would be perfect in there, but it really seems like a pointless puilding stuck in the middle of Toon Studio..
In a perfect world.. :thumbs:
Toon Studio
Flying Carpets
Animagique
Art of Disney Animation
Pixar Studios
Crush's Coaster
Car's Race Rally
Ratatouille Dark Ride
Monster's Inc Monstropolis Adventure
Toy Story Playland
Zigzag Spin
Parachute Drop
RC Racer
Don't get me wrong. I don't have any problems with Toy Story. But a lot of people are screaming, there is too much Toy Story at the resort, but if it comes up to TSMM, suddenly they seem to be ok with it. That's all.
I think, that's a little bit strange :?
Quoteif it comes up to TSMM, suddenly they seem to be ok with it. That's all.
I think, that's a little bit strange
But unlike the carnival attractions, TSMM is a well-thought through developed attraction. ;)
Quote from: "Whip"Quoteif it comes up to TSMM, suddenly they seem to be ok with it. That's all.
I think, that's a little bit strange
But unlike the carnival attractions, TSMM is a well-thought through developed attraction. ;)
Well said! I don't mind Toy Story rides, as long as the rides are well themed.
I could have bet this argument was coming.
But it is Toy story after all, even if it is well developed. You can't say there is too much of TS but welcome a TS ride only for beeing everybody darling.
If there is too much TS even TSMM is a no go.
You are right. There would be too much Toy Story related rides, even if the ride is well themed. That's the reason why I would prefer the Monsters, Inc. ride, like I have mentioned above.
Quote from: "Whip"Am I the only one thinking that WDS is far too crowded? :P They are cramming far too much into such a small space - the tram tour takes up about half of the park! :lol:
I'm all up for a Paris version of Pixar Studios - which would split the current toon studios into two, and maybe the ImagiNations building could be converted to some sort of exhibition, something a tad educational detailing the history of Pixar? I know it's not that realistic, but a Monster's Inc attraction of some sort would be perfect in there, but it really seems like a pointless puilding stuck in the middle of Toon Studio..
In a perfect world.. :thumbs:
Toon Studio
Flying Carpets
Animagique
Art of Disney Animation
Pixar Studios
Crush's Coaster
Car's Race Rally
Ratatouille Dark Ride
Monster's Inc Monstropolis Adventure
Toy Story Playland
Zigzag Spin
Parachute Drop
RC Racer
All them different area's would make the Studio's feel very crammed. I say one big Toon Studio area!
It's time to expand the Walt disney Studios Park so it will not feel so crammed. Disney should relocate the STT and should expand the Hollywood Blvd.
Quote from: "dagobert"It's time to expand the Walt disney Studios Park so it will not feel so crammed. Disney should relocate the STT and should expand the Hollywood Blvd.
The mocked-up map definitely gives the park a nice balanced look, but there is a great big gap beyond the tram tour station.
News over on DCP from La Roquine: the ride will be in Gusteau's, the restaurant will be 'La Ratatouille' from the end of the film!
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Quote from: "andrewuk"News over on DCP from La Roquine: the ride will be in Gusteau's, the restaurant will be 'La Ratatouille' from the end of the film!
//http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard.net/disneyland-paris-f6/future-attraction-ratatouille-au-parc-walt-disney-studios-t12179-60.htm
Great news! So it looks like that the restaurant is definately coming. Hopefully it will not be cut due tu financial reasons.
Found this over on Disney Central Plaza...
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Cool !
My lord the land looks so cramped from that angle! :shock:
It would be strange seeing giant toy pieces sitting right along side a Paris theme area, how will they pull this off i do not know. :-?
Quote from: "QTXAdsy"My lord the land looks so cramped from that angle! :shock:
It would be strange seeing giant toy pieces sitting right along side a Paris theme area, how will they pull this off i do not know. :-?
Well if the little street leading the the ride has the buildings back sides facing TSPL maybe theme the facades so they look bigger on the side of TSPL.
Although this could be the ride to change the park completely, it highlights the mish-mash of themes, not just in the park but within Toon Studio;
The old Animation Courtyard area
Flying Carpets Over Agrabah and the African area
Crush's Coaster and the undersea area
Cars Race Rally and the Route 66 area
Toy Story Playland and the "shrunk to toy size" area
Ratatouille and the Parisian area
The Meet and Greet area with the Toon Town backdrop
Monsters Inc and that small area
And then Hollywood Boulevard, a working Backlot, the art-deco (ish) Production Courtyard, the beautiful Front Lot...
Quote from: "SM:M3"Although this could be the ride to change the park completely, it highlights the mish-mash of themes
Right. That's why I think they should expand upon the existing themes that are there, to create more immersive areas. For example, Crush's Coaster's queue should be expanded into the area that is now occupied by Flying Carpets Over Agrabah, to create a larger Finding Nemo area, with some sort of sydney harbour-themed shop, restaurant or play area. Cars Race Rally should be expanded upon by adding either a Cozy Cone Motel cafe, or a Sci Fi Dine-In Theater restaurant themed to Cars.
Toon Studios should be renamed Pixar Place. Animagique should be replaced with either a Monsters, Inc. dark ride or Monsters, Inc. Laugh Floor attraction. And as for the Art of Disney Animation, I think the exterior should be rethemed to replicate the Carthay Circle Theatre (like they're building over at DCA) to separate it from Pixar Place and tie it in with Hollywood Boulevard.
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The clashing themes is one of the main problems with WDS.
In one of the first pages of the new Imagineering book it says how every project starts with a great story so that everything can be built around it. Unfortunately that's what WDS doesn't seem to have.
The park doesn't flow from one scene to another. One second you're in Hollywood, the next second you're in Sydney harbour - with nothing to explain why.
There needs to be one main story to tie everything together. Getting this problem sorted would be the biggest step they could take to making WDS a "real" Disney park.
Sometimes i think the disney fans are more imagineers than the people wo work really there.
i think the studios is a great example of a park that no one will work on it, and it also
shows how imagineers got hold back on the short leash.
because money isn´t the only issue, if they want the can get money from investors ect. but
they need to bring up good ideas that people are interested to spend the money on it.
I'm thinking that the WDS is a work in progess. What do you mean RnRcj, "one second you're in Hollywood, the next second you're in Sydney harbour" have I missed something ? I guess you're refering to Crushes Coaster, which is in Toon Studio. One second you're in Hollywood, and the next second you're in Toon Studio. That's the way I see it anyway. It does tie together.
On second you are in Hollywood another second the Hollywood theming and feeling is destroyed because you see the parachute tower in TSPL. At least I was annoyed in February to see the green tower while "being" in Hollywood.
I also think that WDS is a mish-mash of themes. To be honest, the ToT doesn't fit into the Production courtyard. It will fit when the whole courtyard will be transformed into a Hollywood themed land. Nevertheless I like the whole area around ToT. Now it's just a nice place to relax and have a glass of these nice Perrier Cocktails.
It's not a mish-mash of themes really. Ok I know people don't like the Parachute drop, but just think of the view you'll get of the resort from the top. Why wouldn't Disney try and replicate the huge success of the Pixar films in their theme parks. Hence Toon Studio. I can see TOT from BTM, how does TOT fit into Frontierland ? You have to suspend disbelief sometimes.
Quote from: "ed-uk"It's not a mish-mash of themes really. Ok I know people don't like the Parachute drop, but just think of the view you'll get of the resort from the top. Why wouldn't Disney try and replicate the huge success of the Pixar films in their theme parks. Hence Toon Studio. I can see TOT from BTM, how does TOT fit into Frontierland ? You have to suspend disbelief sometimes.
Maybe the reason I think that WDS a mish-mash is that I have been to Disney's Hollywood Studios in Florida and now I always compare these two parks. There everything is well designed to fit a particular theme, for example Sunset Blvd and ToT and RnRC. And I think that's not the case in Paris.
I do understand Disney to replicate the success of the Pixar movies and I don't have a problem with it since I like nearly all of the Pixar movies.
Don't get me wrong. I really like WDS, because it improved in the last years. In 2006 we didn't spend a lot of time there, because the park was ugly and didn't offer great things. Now we enjoy the park, especially the new rides like ToT with the surrounding Hollywood area or the Toon Studio with Crush and Cars. I like both rides and in my opinion the theming is okay for these rides.
I only have a problem with TSPL, because I think it will end up like Chester and Hester's Dinorama in DAK. If you like it, I'm fine with it. Maybe it will turn out as a nice area. Nevertheless I'm not excited about it and I'm looking forward to Ratatouille.
Quote from: "ed-uk"It's not a mish-mash of themes really.
What on earth
would you consider to be a mish-mash of themes then? I mean, WDS is a
perfect example of just that. :lol:
The park really needs that central story to explain why there are so many different themes. Crush's Coaster, Flying Carpets and Cars are all huddled up in one corner and we're not told why. Toy Story Playland just adds more clashing themes and so will Ratatouille.
The story is a vital step which has been missed. It would make the whole park flow better. See how Disneyland Park flows so well between the lands? You gradually fade out of one story and into the next.
Hollywood Boulevard needs a story which then flows into a Toon Studio story.
At the moment it's Hollywood, then BAM!.... Toy Story Playland..... and we're left wondering why a giant green tower has been erected in the back yard of Franklin's department store.
RnRCj you are absolutely right. I didn't think about how Ratatouille with a Parisian backdrop or Cars Race Rally and Crush would fit into Toon Studio. For me a studio is place where films are created and these rides don't have anything in common with creatong movies.
Maybe WDI is thinking this way: Ratatouille is a movie, so it fits into a studios park. Cars and Finding nemo are also movies and so they also fit.
Nevertheless I can't wait to experience Ratatouille!
It isn't really a mish-mash. Its all 'toony', which means it fits with the Toon Studio theme. How can you have a ride themed to Cars, Nemo and Toy Story, but keep the theme the same? You cant!
They need to keep the Toon Studio name, it works well, but like other people are saying, they need to expand Nemo and Cars to more than just one small attraction.
Also they need to make each section of the Toon Studio (TSPL, Paris etc) more like a film set, to make it feel as if you're in the film. Its a very simple idea, which would be easy to create, would be very effective, and would actually make everything fit in nicely.
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If this image is genuine, I'd imagine the Costume building will slowly be faded out....! :D
Quote from: "Dagobert"Maybe WDI is thinking this way: Ratatouille is a movie, so it fits into a studios park. Cars and Finding nemo are also movies and so they also fit.
That probably is their reasoning behind it at the moment; it doesn't work and needs to be sorted. It's fine to include all these different movies in Toon Studio but they really need to tie them all together somehow. They did it well with Fantasyland, so there must be a way to do it here.
Even though the Rat will confuse things a little more, I gotta admit I am liking the sound of a little Parisian placemaking as well as the attraction itself. :lol:
QuoteIt's fine to include all these different movies in Toon Studio but they really need to tie them all together somehow. They did it well with Fantasyland, so there must be a way to do it here.
Maybe by doing it like at DHS, make a Picar Place, and putt this bricks on the facades!!
QuoteAlso they need to make each section of the Toon Studio (TSPL, Paris etc) more like a film set, to make it feel as if you're in the film. Its a very simple idea, which would be easy to create, would be very effective, and would actually make everything fit in nicely.
I don´t think so, it don´t need to be a filmset, in fantasyland there is also no filmset, so why not rewrite the
story of toon studios.. make it that like the pixar studios present they´re movies with incredible attractions.
so no filmset theming is needet....
but honestly i think the whole toon studios need to get reworked bevor adding a new attraction....
Quote from: "lil-shawn"QuoteAlso they need to make each section of the Toon Studio (TSPL, Paris etc) more like a film set, to make it feel as if you're in the film. Its a very simple idea, which would be easy to create, would be very effective, and would actually make everything fit in nicely.
I don´t think so, it don´t need to be a filmset, in fantasyland there is also no filmset
Did you really just say that? Of course there is no film set in Fantasyland, because that is in the Disneyland Park, where as these attractions are in the STUDIOS park.....
People are saying these attractions dont fit in the Studios, so adjust them to make it as if the guests are a part of the film. TSPL would be almost perfect for that!
Toon Studios is made up of a selection of smallish rides based on Pixar films, The Art of Disney Animation and Animagique. So people can experience a selection of rides based on different cartoon films mostly Pixar. That's why they've called it Toon Studio. But some people might not like the idea. It's not ment to be like Carsland at DCA, or Fantasyland in Disneyland Park. It's called Toon Studio and it's made up with a selection of Toonish rides. I'ts not ment to be a whole land dedicated to one particular theme like Cars or Fantasy or Adventure. I don't think some people understand.
Quote from: "ed-uk"Toon Studios is made up of a selection of smallish rides based on Pixar films, The Art of Disney Animation and Animagique. So people can experience a selection of rides based on different cartoon films mostly Pixar. That's why they've called it Toon Studio. But some people might not like the idea. It's not ment to be like Carsland at DCA, or Fantasyland in Disneyland Park. It's called Toon Studio and it's made up with a selection of Toonish rides. I'ts not ment to be a whole land dedicated to one particular theme like Cars or Fantasy or Adventure.
Well spoken! :D
QuoteDid you really just say that? Of course there is no film set in Fantasyland, because that is in the Disneyland Park, where as these attractions are in the STUDIOS park.....
People are saying these attractions dont fit in the Studios, so adjust them to make it as if the guests are a part of the film. TSPL would be almost perfect for that!
So and now tell me the different between the two, because its a studios park not everything needs a
filmset theming... all i wanted to say is just that the whole land could get hold thogether with
one strong theme and this is pixay presents his movies. so take animagique, flying carpets and the art on animation...
i never said these attractions wont fit in...
QuoteToon Studios is made up of a selection of smallish rides based on Pixar films, The Art of Disney Animation and Animagique. So people can experience a selection of rides based on different cartoon films mostly Pixar. That's why they've called it Toon Studio. But some people might not like the idea. It's not ment to be like Carsland at DCA, or Fantasyland in Disneyland Park. It's called Toon Studio and it's made up with a selection of Toonish rides. I'ts not ment to be a whole land dedicated to one particular theme like Cars or Fantasy or Adventure. I don't think some people understand.
never said, it have to be like carsland or fantasyland, also i understand this all very clear am not an idiot...
Its just all about story and presenting at disney and at the studios nothing works right now. sure the attractions have a story but it don´t work with the land. as i said above take out the disney stuff and turn everything into pixar
and the whole thing has a story, somehow!!
and if someone don´t like the idea it is his choise and not yours!! i don´t have to like everything
disney is making!!
I wasn't adressing my thread to you in particular. I have never said you should like it. Infact I did say some people may not. I just expressed my view on it. And since Disney own Pixar I don't have a problem with it. You said yourself the attractions have a story but they don't work with the land? And I think they do.
QuoteI wasn't adressing my thread to you in particular. I have never said you should like it. Infact I did say some people may not. I just expressed my view on it. And since Disney own Pixar I don't have a problem with it. But others might.
And i respect your view on it!! I don´t have a problem with it either, but i think it´s nicer and it makes
more fun to ejoy if everything fits thogehter somehow. all this mish mash on themening is overload...
At disneyland park my non disney fans friends were understanding everything and they did know who they are,
but in the studios all i could hear from them is "what the heck where i am right now" and they didn´t say that because
of it size its because of the non fitting theme!! All they wanted to do is just get inside all attractions and as fast as possible out of this waste of land park as they called it....
QuoteAll they wanted to do is just get inside all attractions and as fast as possible out of this waste of land park as they called it....
Bit extreme!? if they wanted to get out as fast as possible, simply just leave.... its optional, its a themepark, not a detention centre??
The fact is this "mish-mash" theming just doesn't work well. They do need to tie everything together somehow because right now the land doesn't flow and tell a story.
Naively saying that "it's supposed to be collection of completely different themes" doesn't justify it. This is a theme park here, a Disney one, where the lands should be themed consistantly and have at least some sort of backstory behind them.
As I said before, this is explained within the first few pages of the new Imagineering book. I don't see why they have completely missed the first step in creating a land for a theme park.
I don't think I'm being naive about it. They don't call it a land. They call it Toon Studio. Where as I said in an earliier post, people can experience a selection of rides based on different Disney/Pixar cartoon films. And that is what ties Toon Studio together. The Toon characters, the Toon films, hence Toon Studio. If you put the Parachute Drop into Fantasyland, that would become a mish-mash.
What have I started :oops: :?:
Quote from: "ed-uk"They don't call it a land. They call it Toon Studio.
Except it is a land, one of the "studio lots", Main Street USA doesn't have the "land" suffix so is that not a land?
Quote from: "ed-uk"And that is what ties Toon Studio together. The Toon characters, the Toon films, hence Toon Studio.
What ties Toon Studio together is its weak backstory; "Toons live in Toontown (DL + TDL), Toons holiday at Toontown Fair (WDW) and work making their animated films at Toon Studio" Hence the Director Genie, Lightning McQueen and Mater by Cars Race Rally, Crush by Crushs Coaster. Unless they apply that flimsy line to TSPL with Buzz, RC, Toy Soldiers and Slinky being there because they are making a film, it stops working, so it wont work for Ratatouille.
The back story it's that Toon Studio is where the Toons work. It's a dedictated area for Toons. So people can meat a selection of their favourite Disney characters. And experience a selecton of rides based on different cartoon films. Is that wrong? I think that there is room for an area like that in a Disney theme park. It's called Toon Studio, they don't call it a land. And in no way would I compare it to Main St. U.S.A.
Quote from: "ed-uk"I don't think I'm being naive about it. They don't call it a land. They call it Toon Studio. Where as I said in an earliier post, people can experience a selection of rides based on different Disney/Pixar cartoon films. And that is what ties Toon Studio together. The Toon characters, the Toon films, hence Toon Studio.
But it's a very weak backstory to tie it all together. If Disney were using that sort of reasoning, they might as well have put Big Thunder, Space Mountain, Indy and Casey Jr all into one land together and called it "Roller Coaster Land". You can try to justify it but no matter what you say it's still a mish-mash of themes that don't work well together. If you open your eyes and just look it's plain obvious. ;)
Quote from: "ed-uk"Is that wrong? I think that there is room for an area like that in a Disney theme park.
Not wrong, but certainly not a good idea. By doing this they are lowering themselves to the level of your average theme park you can get anywhere.
WDS needs to become a true Disney park and this isn't the right way to go about it.
It surprises me how some people actually seem to support the way Disney are making a mess of WDS.
QuoteNot wrong, but certainly not a good idea. By doing this they are lowering themselves to the level of your average theme park you can get anywhere.
WDS needs to become a true Disney park and this isn't the right way to go about it.
It surprises me how some people actually seem to support the way Disney are making a mess of WDS.
Completly argee with you....
Just putting in new rides don´t make this park great or more interesting. it will still be the same,
doing all the rides and then leave the park. the studios have no single place i would sit down and
inhale the atmosphere because there is non...
Sometimes it fells like.. "hey i have an idea for a great new attraction, it will be called ratatouille, i know
it don´t fit right now but maybe in 100years all will fit thogether" :twisted:
I don't except that Disney have made a mess of WDS. I think it's much improved on how it was in 2002. And I don't think they've lowered themselves to the level of your average theme park. You wouldn't find a ride like TOT in your average theme park, and that's just for starters. The characters and films are very important to Disney, and I think it's clear that Disney want to create more synergy between their films and theme parks. Many people like to see the characters. Toon Studio is an area dedicated to one particular theme, and that's cartoon films. That's what ties it together. Not one particular film not one particular theme like the lands in Disneyland Park. Toon Studio isn't really a weak idea when you consider the popularity of the films the rides are based on. Anyway Disney are building it so I guess they've judged it's a good idea.
My point is any theme park can create a collection of themed attractions like what's in Toon Studio. The Disney difference is connecting them all with a great story; making the park flow from one scene to another. Disneyland Park does this excellently, WDS does not. I wasn't talking about the quality of the attractions themselves because most of them are very good.
WDS may have more to do now than in 2002, but the consistant theme has been lost. It's what the park needs desperately to make it true Disney. They're expanding the park with good attractions (mostly!!), but it's like one step forward one step back.
To really develop the park they need to create proper themed areas and connect everything. This way they will ensure they remain the best of the best in the theme park industry. :thumbs:
The consistant theme of the WDS has been lost. because when the WDS opened it only had one theme, it did look like a film studios for the most part. I think they've gotten away from that a bit, but then i think they've had to because the park lacked themeing and rides. Disney do like to showcase their films and characters in their theme parks, and I think Toon Studio is a way for them to do that. But obviously for some it's a mish-mash.
All I'm saying is there just needs to be consistant theming within each area, the areas need to flow well between each other, and each area needs to be connected to the park's overall theme. That way we have a real Disney park. :)
Quote from: "ed-uk"But obviously for some it's a mish-mash.
No no no - it
is a mish-mash... this isn't a matter of opinion here. :lol: Please just look at the difference between Crush, Cars, and the Carpets which are all about 5 feet away from each other. Sydney Harbour, Route 66, and Agrabah. Pretty much sums it up. You can make up ways to connect them, but they aren't truly in theme with each other.
No, what you're saying is that you want a land, like Fantasyland, Carsland, Finding Nemoland. A land dedicated to one particular theme or film. The way to connect the rides in Toon Studios, is that the rides are all based on Disney/pixar cartoon films, hence Toon Studios. But that's not what you want.
QuoteNo, what you're saying is that you want a land, like Fantasyland, Carsland, Finding Nemoland. A land dedicated to one particular theme or film. The way to connect the rides in Toon Studios, is that the rides are all based on Disney/pixar cartoon films, hence Toon Studios. But that's not what you want.
No he didn´t say that!! all he wants is that even if we have this mish mash of theming that
somehow disney have to conect them, like in fantasyland. the buildings fit thogether and build a
story... the same needs to be done at the studios.
all you conect with disney is STORY...STORY...STORY... and the studios can´t be an exception, someone
who says that the studios/ toon studios have an story don´t understand the disney philosophy!
Quote from: "ed-uk"No, what you're saying is that you want a land, like Fantasyland, Carsland, Finding Nemoland. A land dedicated to one particular theme or film.
Well yes because that's the whole point of a themed land. :lol:
Quote from: "ed-uk"The way to connect the rides in Toon Studios, is that the rides are all based on Disney/pixar cartoon films, hence Toon Studios. But that's not what you want.
All the rides in Fantasyland are based on Disney films, yet they managed to create a beautiful flowing land out of it. I've got no problem with the different films used in Toon Studios, just the way they are presented together. It doesn't flow. ;)
A land in a Disney park needs to transport you somewhere, whether it be another country or just a film set. With Toon Studio it's not clear where we're supposed to be. It is just a collection random toon attractions with clashing themes. We don't understand why one second we're watching a blacklit show, the next we're surfing the EAC.
It just needs a story to tell us where we are and why everything is there. :)
Quote from: "RnRCj"We don't understand why one second we're watching a blacklit show, the next we're surfing the EAC.
Now come one - that's completely out of context and unrealistic!
When would you ever get on Crush within a second after leaving Animagique? You'd have to queue for 2 hours - plus break downs!!! ;)
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Quote from: "RnRCj"We don't understand why one second we're watching a blacklit show, the next we're surfing the EAC.
Now come one - that's completely out of context and unrealistic!
When would you ever get on Crush within a second after leaving Animagique? You'd have to queue for 2 hours - plus break downs!!! ;)
Haha very true! This raises another issue: why should we have to queue 2 hours to ride the EAC? You don't have to queue to ride the real thing. :P
Quote from: "RnRCj"They do need to tie everything together somehow because right now the land doesn't flow and tell a story.
Why do they? No where else in the Studio's has a 'connection', so why should the Toon Studio?
I'd love to see a big Toon Studio area, with lots of different themed rides. Would create a fab atmosphere!
It would feel very similar to Mickeys Toontown at the Magic Kingdom.
QuoteWhy do they? No where else in the Studio's has a 'connection', so why should the Toon Studio?
Maybe because its what tey are dong in every disney park, the new DCA project includet.
if they don´t beginn somewhere, it will never have a connection...
QuoteIt would feel very similar to Mickeys Toontown at the Magic Kingdom.
This land was planed for a short time but badly it stayed longer and now this land
is history anytime soon. so everything that don´t fit get rid out or rethemed,
at least at DCA and WDW magic kingdom....
i don't know how you can't see, in part anyway, that this "area" of the park does work in the grand theme of the whole park - anyone who has been to a real life studio knows that you could be on one "set" of a hawaiian beach on one side of the street and a new york back alley on the otherside of it.
just take it for what it is - each ride is a "set" for a particular movie in a studio, the novelty is that it is a cartoon studio based on a real studio - i don't really know what you want, you either want the studio theme which this fits into or a more consistant theme where you'd probably end up with cars riding the EAC with buzz and woody driving now that would be a mish/mash
Quote from: "mattsteveal"just take it for what it is - each ride is a "set" for a particular movie in a studio
That doesn't explain Animagique or AODA or Toy Storyplayland. If that is the story behind the land they need to make it clear. The only ride this story does clearly apply to is the Carpets.
See this is the problem, we are forced to make up stories ourselves to justify everything because there isn't one to begin with. :)
i'd say toy story playland does fit as its a "set" in itself, but can see your point from the animagique and aoda altho aoda is a behind the scenes look at creating animated movies which fits in with the studio part of it
in my opinion its only animagique that doesn't fit in with the studio theme - and i think disney feel they don't need to justify everything being together simply because of the "studio" label.
but i do see your point, they could clarify a bit more
On Themepark a castmember states they already started on Quartier Parisien. There should be typical french fences and boulders instead of asphalt. There also should be some kind of terrace. Probably for meet 'n greets with our ratfriend.
Quote from: "*TIMMIE*"On Themepark a castmember states they already started on Quartier Parisien. There should be typical french fences and boulders instead of asphalt. There also should be some kind of terrace. Probably for meet 'n greets with our ratfriend.
Great news, although is that the path out of TSPL's blue barrel which was rumoured to be Paris themed?
Quote from: "RnRCj"See this is the problem, we are forced to make up stories ourselves to justify everything because there isn't one to begin with. :)
Exactly :)
Quote from: "mattsteveal"i don't know how you can't see, in part anyway, that this "area" of the park does work in the grand theme of the whole park - anyone who has been to a real life studio knows that you could be on one "set" of a hawaiian beach on one side of the street and a new york back alley on the otherside of it.
just take it for what it is - each ride is a "set" for a particular movie in a studio, the novelty is that it is a cartoon studio based on a real studio - i don't really know what you want, you either want the studio theme which this fits into or a more consistant theme where you'd probably end up with cars riding the EAC with buzz and woody driving now that would be a mish/mash
Well how about they replaced Mad Hatter Tea Cups with Cars Race Rally, swapped Dumbo for Orbitron and then replaced Pinocchio with Captain EO, Small World with POTC, Snow White with Star Tours. See where I'm going, you could all claim these are peoples fantasies and so it is Fantasyland, but it doesn't work together at all, same as Toon Studio which they started to make work then sort of gave up.
Toon Studio is a mash-up, just like having a giant Orange on a boardwalk, but then again that still stands right? :^o
There is no consistant theming. You've got America, Australia and Asia represented within a 20 yard area. Unless this is a 'sample the world' thing, there is no consistant theming; and this theme should be left to it's a small world .
The imagineers have messed up big style - these new attractions would work in a brand new Pixar park, but not in the studios. We're going to end up with a new action plan for the park, just like they've done with Disney California Adventure, because the park isn't well designed at all. In 2002 there was a shedload of potential - in fact I would have said that the attractions were well-designed and there was a good variety to do - even if only for a half-day. Now, the park is far to cramped on the right-wing, and lacking on the left-wing. For instance..
Left-Wing ................ Center.............. Right-Wing
Rock 'n' Roller ..............Studio 1 .......... Art of Disney
Armageddon ............ Tram Tour ...........Animagique
Stitch Live .............Tower of Terror ..........Flying Carpets
Playhouse .......................................... Cars Race Rally
Cinemagique ..................................... Crush's Coaster
Motors, Action! ...................................Parachute Drop
....................................................... RC Racer
.......................................................Zig Zag Spin
......................................................Ratatouille?
Attraction-wise, Toon Studio is far too crowded, and the right-wing is too heavy. :(
tottaly agree with that and there is space if I remember correct where RnRRC is where there currently is jut a wall and CM entrance?
I've always presumed that they're just developing Toon Studio first and will move on to the other side of the park afterwards, hence the un-balance at the moment.
But you're right that WDS will need the DCA treatment sometime in the future. At the moment they're adding attractions purely to expand the park and increase capacity. A lot of them are good attractions - I'm sure Ratatouille will be excellent - but they've all been tagged on to the end with no real thought as to why they belong there. They should tidy up all the edges now so they don't have to spend large amounts of money on it in the future (like what's happened at DCA).
WDS really needs a DCA treatment, but I highly doubt that this will happen within the next ten years, because TWDC is going to build a park in Shanghai and Euro Disney SCA doesn't have the money. So we have to live with the mish-mash for the next years.
Quote from: "Whip"T
There is no consistant theming. You've got America, Australia and Asia represented within a 20 yard area. Unless this is a 'sample the world' thing, there is no consistant theming; and this theme should be left to it's a small world .
Totally unlike Arabia, Africa and the Caribbean in Adventureland then?
^In Adventureland, the "sub-areas" flow between each other well. The African area has a similar architectural style to the Arabian area. As you walk through Adventureland you gradually fade out of one sub-area and into the next. There's no way you can say it's the same as Toon Studio, where completely different themes are within centimeters of each other. ;)
Surely a "mish-mash" theme in the Studios park is acceptable? The differant areas represent sound stages, and in real Studios, you'd be able to walk from one sound-stage to the next, with the area and scenery changing entirely.
The way I see it, Toon Studio (as you enter it) begins with a focus on classic animation: Animagique, The Art of Animation and the Flying Carpets. It them moves on into new, modern animation (eg PIXAR). Everntually, I'd like to see the "classic Disney animation" theme strenthened, but hey - I'm now wandering in Imagineering territory. :)
Isn't the theme a studio and so different films are in production on the different sets, with Toon Studios being the animated ones, action films in the backlot, TV shows in the TV studio and the 'Hollywood' area with ToT and Cinemagique? I obviously appreciate the genius that went into the Disneyland Park, but I think that it aimed higher than a studios concept can aspire to. What links the Toon Studios attractions together is that they are inspired by animated films. That's all you have there, they are different animations, but all still have the bright colours and energy that featured in the films that inspired them. Not the same as adventureland and not as good, but still different sub areas with a common theme.
surely each ride is a set for each movie in a studio thats how you can go from one theme to the next so abruptly - as in a real studio. you can't compare lands from two differently themed parks because one blends themes and the other doesn't, i mean you wouldn't expect a real studio to blend a set from the dark knight into a set from mamma mia. two different films two totally different settings partly-filmed at the same studios (pinewood), just to make a nice thematic transition - and i know people will say thats not for the public to see and wds is a theme park not a real studio, but thats what its theme is - a real studio - it may not be pretty but it fits the Studio theme
were many people complaining when cars and crush were being built directly opposite each other?
I don't why we are presuming that each ride is a film set. We are not told this - in Crush we don't know whether we're on a set or whether we're actually supposed to riding the EAC. It's the same with Cars - are we on a set or actually at Route 66?
If they are supposed to be sets, then that doesn't explain Toy Story Playland or Animagique because they are not sets.
There just needs to be a clear theme and story for the whole land.
Basically, if there was a clear story behind it all then we wouldn't be debating what it is would we? :lol:
toy story playland is a toy story set with three rides in - simple really
we are told the theme it's toon STUDIO in the walt disney STUDIO's they are individual sets like armageddon, moteurs action and RnRC are in the other parts of the park, flying carpets is also a set and STT takes you to two sets on the tour, if it's not clearly explained it is certainly implied in other areas of the park that the theme of the entire park is a Film Studio of which has sets of different movies, it is implied that the rides are "Hot-Sets" this is how i see it, as for animagique, AODA and cinemagique these are Screening "Rooms"(i use rooms loosely) which they also have at real studios - this makes sense and doesn't really need explaining i don't see why disney need to explain every ride's reason for being there when it's pretty much implied by the theme of the entire park - its a film studio
Quotetoy story playland is a toy story set with three rides in
Toy Story Playland is not a set!! and the whole area is not studio related!!!
Its simply, just Andy´s Backyard where he build up his toys, and now you have the
chance to shrink to the sice of a toy and play with them in the backyard.
Toy Story Playland fits the theme of the studios like it does in a magic kingdom style park.
common true disneyfans who know what a disney park should be like, won´t say something like this!!
The Walt Disney Studios Story and Theme was to make and present a real working Studio,
wich in my eyes don´t and will never work...
Quote from: "mattsteveal"toy story playland is a toy story set with three rides in - simple really
It's not - there is nothing that suggests this. This is another example of making up stories ourselves to justify things. We shouldn't have to do this because the story should be clear to begin with. ;)
Now, it's very easy to say that all these tiny details about story, connections, how the park flows etc. are not important. This would be correct for an average theme park, but we have to remember this is a Disney park. I don't understand this general thought that because it's WDS the details aren't so important.
Disney are well known for taking those extra steps. Any theme park can create a collection of themed rides. What makes Disney so special are the extra details such as a great story and the way parks flows.
This is the exact reason why so many people, including most on this forum, would rather go to Disney park than any other theme park.
The fact is, Toon Studio is not visually pleasing because of the contrasting themes. So they do need to link them with a clear story that will make the area "look" like it makes sense.
It is possible - the evidence is at Disney Hollywood Studios in Orlando. Over there, they've got Indiana Jones and Stars Tours "sets" positioned in the same area, yet they still look like they belong with each other. This is the sort of thing WDS needs. ;)
It's also interesting to note that between Star Tours and Indy they've got the Backlot Express, proving that to make the park flow better WDS NEEDS MORE RESTAURANTS!! :P
Meanwhile, WDSfans on Twitter:
"CM's report a coblestone path is being paved between Toy Story Playland and the Costuming Building, in preparation of Ratatouille."
Quote from: "Alan"Meanwhile, WDSfans on Twitter:
"CM's report a coblestone path is being paved between Toy Story Playland and the Costuming Building, in preparation of Ratatouille."
Hehe, I almost forgot this was the Ratatouille topic...
Good news about the path, kinda surprising that DLP had the sense to start the project now whilst they've got chance. :lol:
Look I'm not saying that this whole concept is not a mish mash of themes because it is, I'm only stating that in my opinion as this is a film studio themed park you can because it does fit the story behind the park IF you assume that each different sub-area/soundstage is an individual set, you can imagine toy story playland as a set just like I remember the Honey I shrunk the kids playground "set" they once had at Disney Hollywood Studios (or MGM studios as it was then) and as the map in the link below has TSPL in toon studio you can assume the theme to the toon studio land applies to it as well:
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Toon Studio: "The Toon Studio concept is a spin-off of the Mickey's Toontown idea. Mickey's Toontown is an area at three other Disney theme parks where guests can experience the living environments of Disney characters, whereas the Walt Disney Studios is being publicised as where the Disney characters 'go to work', producing their animated films themselves using conventional movie-making equipment."
I'm not gonna keep arguing my point and I can see how un-disney it may seem for this kind of theming (or lack of) and I suppose my thinking requires a bit of imagination and assuming. But in respect to the story behind the park and the land I see that it fits but that's only my opinion
Anyway Ratatouille! Does anyone think that the dome maybe used in a similar way to pooh's hunny hunt as a transitional scene (the pooh ride has a section where you see several screens with animated characters between audio-animatronic sections of the ride)
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I've been thinking that this may be what the dome is for... It'd make for some immersive theming! :thumbs:
I thought the dome might have been for one of the buildings? Good idea though, can't wait to see soem concept art.
Quote from: "Alan"Meanwhile, WDSfans on Twitter:
"CM's report a coblestone path is being paved between Toy Story Playland and the Costuming Building, in preparation of Ratatouille."
Yeah... that's what I said on page 19. But many are arguing about the Toon studios area instead of this new ride. Seems they missed the news. :roll:
It's good news though! There also seem to be typical French fences, an area that seems to fit a meet and greet area. It seems there could be a facade, but that's not sure at this moment.
Here's what I said almost a month ago, on 25 May 2010:
QuoteAbout those RATATOUILLE boxes, here's my prediction for what's inside them...
I reckon there's special custom-made paving tiles in them, that they'll use to pave the path that leads from the entrance to Toy Story Playland all the way back to Ratatouille. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
And today the Disney Gazette post this. Ah, I'm so clever :-)
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this new Parisisan area looks really nice... I was pleasently suprised today! :thumbs: :thumbs:
You cannot see any of the gates or black orniate fences on this photo by the way.
That's looking pretty good! :D
Quote from: "RnRCj"We are not told this - in Crush we don't know whether we're on a set or whether we're actually supposed to riding the EAC. It's the same with Cars - are we on a set or actually at Route 66?
The Route 66 area has a large flat backdrop - much like a filmset. With Crush, the fact that it is a Studio soundstage is clearly shown - we can see the building above the blue rocks.
Although it isnt made incredible obvious, these attractions show that they are on sets.
I wish they'd make TSP clearly a set - it'd be nice to have a giant film camera lying next to the entrance. :)
I cant see this traditional Parisien (or however you bloody spell it) theme fitting in with the colourfulness of the Toon Studio/TSPL.... Will look very out of the place right in the middle!
i suspect it will be a very pixar-esque version of traditional paris
Anyway Disney don't make animated films on sets and soundstages they're hand drawn or done on computer. So in Toon Studios anything can fit if you want it to, as long as the ride is based on a cartoon film. Crushes Coaster is built on a soundstage so the building does fit into the theme of the park. It's not the same for Cars and TSPL, they take you into the film. I think Toon Studio is a good way for Disney to introduce their cartoon characters and rides into the park in a dedicated area, rather than having them spread all over the WDS. The flying Carpets on the Front Lot, Crushes Coaster next to the Stunt Show for example, I think that would be a real mish- mash. But in Toon Studios you have to suspend disbelief a bit because you woudn't make an animated film on a Soundstage. My piont being that animation lives on the movie screen and with the animaters, their drawings and in our imagination. Toon Studio isn't about the production of a cartoon film. Except for the Art of Disney Animation attraction which tells us a bit about it. The rides don't really. As I've said it's about experiencing a selection of rides based on our favourite Disney/ Pixar cartoon films, I think.
As posted by Disneydavid in the TSPL topic:
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The start of the Paris placemaking! Note to all: You might wanna save this pic in case it gets taken down.
It look pretty good already (ignoring the huge ugly steel monster in the background). The wall with the fence, the tree in the pavement... I really hope they actually make a kerb this time, although it doesn't look like it in the pic.
What I particularly like is the way they're covering the barrel to ease the transition and make the areas flow between each other - something I was talking about earlier in this topic. :thumbs:
WOW, I'm more excited about the fence than about the rides behind it!
That looks so cool! I cannot wait to see how this area turns out :D
Quote from: "dagobert"WOW, I'm more excited about the fence than about the rides behind it!
I know exactly how you feel right now ;)
It does look good so far! Think it needs to be a bit more cartoony to fit in the Toon Studio properly.
Quote from: "dagobert"WOW, I'm more excited about the fence than about the rides behind it!
Haha! :lol: I want to sit on the wall already!
What a fantastic surprise. The paving, the wall, the trees, the greenery. Room to breathe. And so bizarre to see an area that's outside of the same old WDS boundaries we've known for nearly 10 years. So many new corners to discover eh...
Hopefully Ratatouille will be toony in its own whimsical Parisian way.
I've read on Disney Central Plaza, some sort of backdrop may go up alongside the new path next week, as well as the backdrops on Hollywood Boulevard being replaced due to the peeling.
Now that's good news because those backdrops are in a really poor state, keep going DLP!
I hope the Parisian area is more than just carboard back drops along the front of the Costume building.
They look on the Hollywood boulevard, as they're not serious, they're ment to look like that to give that illusion. But to have them to actually make them look like buildings to disguise the costume building is not a good move in my books. To cheap, especially for Disney!
They should build proper buildings, this is Disney after all, not Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
From the general speak on DCP these are temporary to hide the construction, a sort of elaborate fence,but they may be stuck onto the costuming building because of a lack of alternative?
Ahh right, thats ok then :D
I think temporarily a backdrop will look much better than the boring facade of the Costuming building. Once the Paris area is built though I would hope it'd be replaced by a real facade.
QuoteThey should build proper buildings, this is Disney after all, not Blackpool Pleasure Beach.
Well, things have changed since you last went - it's called Pleasure Beach, Blackpool now. :thumbs:
And don't rip the Pleasure Beach in front of me, as I run a Pleasure Beach fansite after all! :evil:
I do think the costume building should be left as it is though, seeing as it is the only part of what should be a working studio actually left after the removal of the Disney Channel Television Tour.
^ I'm not ripping it? I love that place. And my last visit was last August. Only the pedantic fanboys call it Pleasure Beach, Blackpool :P
Look closely at the left of the bloke in the high-vis jacket
CHEF GUSTEAU!
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Also, I wonder if the ride will have Fastpass like Pooh in Tokyo, which gets waits of up to 130mins on a busy day. Yes 2hours 10mins. That's some angry guests.
That Barrel of Monkeys tunnel isn't the best transition in theme park history, but at least they're trying. The Imagineers are clearly attempting to make the Walt Disney Studios Park more immersive and they're trying to connect opposing themes together in thoughtful ways.
You walk into a giant Barrel of Monkeys and when you come out on the other side, you realise you've just exited some kind of urban tunnel and arrived in historic Paris. I can't wait to see the whole Ratatouille area finished.
I'm so excited about the ride and the theming of the Ratatouille area.
The picture is great. That's Disney theming!
I cant get to the picture.... Help please? :)
True, the picture has gone - maybe someone could dig it out?
Basically, where the blue barrel is, on the parisean side, a stone archway has been built to protect the edge of the barrel ruining the French theming. Over the centre of the archway, a plague in the style of the heads of Mount Rushmore has Gustau's head on it, complete with chef's hat. I hope this sums it up while the picture's gone Comlumbiad.
here you go - i got it from DisneyCentralPlaza.com
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Ah! Thank you so much! Especially for describing the picture before Mr Smurfy74 kindly posted it. Thank you very much!
I'm actually happy with that as a transition, it's a nice extra addition to the area and shows that little bit of extra Disney effort that WDS has been missing! I can imagine walking under the arch and then appearing out of a barrel, it works as a means of transporting you from the full sized 'adult' world to the shrunken down size of Andy's garden. The details of adding the carved faces are the details that the park needs to start looking at! This gives me a lot of hope for the area!
Holy cow, that tunnel is huge.
As much as I like it, it has to be said that it's still a rather abrupt transition... Americana toy world and Paris, six feet apart. A transition like that would take miles at the Disneyland Park.
Still, pretty good!
Whilst it is an extreme transition... I think it will work well. Especially if you have quite a few extreme transitions going from one area to another. You kinda get excited to see what the next area will be like! If ya get what I mean.
Ok Here is my 2 cents worth.
Could the tunnel be for the tram tour to pass through. While it has been mentioned that a Ratatouille dark ride could be built. Is it possible that it is just a new section on the outdated Studios tram tour?
And before you bring in the reality of Ratatouille wasn't filmed on a studio back lot. Think about how Universal studios Hollywood have added in a 360 3D King Kong section. With that you drive down a tunnel with 3D film all around you. Could this be a concept to try and merge computer generation with reality?
@Alpop
In short, no. The tunnel has a footpath going through it, for guests to walk to from Toy Story Playland to the future Ratatouille area. The Studio Tram Tour route goes around the Toy Story Playland site and alongside the Ratatouille site, not through them.
I think that even these little glimmers of Rat-to-be are quite promising. The transitions will probably never be as good as they could be in a designed from the start park rather than WDS patchwork approach, but this is all looking on the right track to me.
Quote from: "Martyn"Whilst it is an extreme transition... I think it will work well.
Yes, these wildly abrupt transitions are what a Studio park should be all about. The biggest problem with the park in the past was that there was simply nothing to transition from or to.
I wonder if this area will become a dedicated Ratatouille character area before the ride (touch wood) opens? The meeting areas in the current plaza are barely big enough for Remy and Emile's crowds most days. It'd allow some new or different characters to get a slot there.
QuoteI wonder if this area will become a dedicated Ratatouille character area before the ride (touch wood) opens? The meeting areas in the current plaza are barely big enough for Remy and Emile's crowds most days. It'd allow some new or different characters to get a slot there.
I also take it that the Living Charcter Remy will move to the new Restaurant in te Parisean area aswell?
This concept could really work well if it is thought through from all angles, much unlike TSPL.
Quote from: "Anthony"It'd allow some new or different characters to get a slot there.
Skinner or Anton Ego, please!
Otherwise I agree with Anthony. It is all very well to say, 'WDS isn't as good as DLP or TDS.' There is nowhere else that is! With the current situation this new ride/restaurant/are are much better than anything we could realistically have hoped for.
That being said, I accept that more theming to show that you are on a film set would be very welcome to tie the park together better.
I never thought that seeing a new ride being built would excite me like ToT did, but this one does :lol: .
I like the idea of it being a new photo op area! I'm not a fan at all of the two in Toon Studio, they feel very temporary and cheap, I'd never buy a photo from that vista, but if the entire environment was matching the characters then I probably would.
As for the extreme transitions, I'd actually say that the WDS transitions are more obvious than the DHS ones, I walked around that park feeling that there were too many different streets and streetsets going on, none of which really felt that different to others. Our park is very much more obvious with it's area themes, it has the colour changes and different building styles which the US park seemed to lack! It'll be nice to see this area add even more definition to the park!
you can't see the floor... but look at the streetlights! :D
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Quote from: "Festival Disney"you can't see the floor... but look at the streetlights! :D
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Sweeet baby! :D :D/
Looks like the "Promenade des Rat" will definitely be opening with Toy Story Playland in August. Presumably, like Anthony said, it will be used as a Ratatouille meet 'n' greet area until construction of the new ride is completed in 2012. Obvious information really. I don't know why I bothered saying that :-)
Kinda sad to say that the best part of the TSPL expansion is the path that goes round the side of it. :lol:
Quote from: "Alan"Looks like the "Promenade des Rat" will definitely be opening with Toy Story Playland in August. Presumably, like Anthony said, it will be used as a Ratatouille meet 'n' greet area until construction of the new ride is completed ...
That would be really cool, but what makes you so sure? Any info I missed?
Eh? I though the main (Buzz) entrance was by the Tram Tour? That pic makes it look much further round....
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Martyn"Whilst it is an extreme transition... I think it will work well.
Yes, these wildly abrupt transitions are what a Studio park should be all about. The biggest problem with the park in the past was that there was simply nothing to transition from or to.
Yes and no really. These wild transitions would be good with the impression that you are goin from one fil set (Toy Story) to another (Rat a to e :D).
However, the Studio's was ment to look like a real film studio's, and it kinda does. Though the idea of these wild transitions in a large Toon Studio area is much more exciting the current Studio theme.
Quote from: "RnRCj"Kinda sad to say that the best part of the TSPL expansion is the path that goes round the side of it. :lol:
Well said! I'm also more excited about the path that will lead to the Ratatouille attraction.
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "RnRCj"Kinda sad to say that the best part of the TSPL expansion is the path that goes round the side of it. :lol:
Well said! I'm also more excited about the path that will lead to the Ratatouille attraction.
I think it is the idea of the coming exclusive Ratatouille ride that makes the excitement. Not the path itself.
Quote from: "Nicolai"That would be really cool, but what makes you so sure? Any info I missed?
You didn't miss any info. It was just an educated guess.
Did anyone noticed who's engraved in the currently discussed arch?
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It's Gusteau! If you look very close, you'll see him engraved in the arch like this:
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I would say it's not just a rumour anymore! :D
Quote from: "JelleP"Did anyone noticed who's engraved in the currently discussed arch?
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It's Gusteau! If you look very close, you'll see him engraved in the arch like this:
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I would say it's not just a rumour anymore! :D
Sorry, beat you to it on the last page :P
Although we haven't heard much about this project for a few weeks now
Quote from: "SM:M3"Sorry, beat you to it on the last page :P
Although we haven't heard much about this project for a few weeks now
Ah, sorry... :oops:
I couldn't view your picture, so I thought it wasn't on this page yet ;)
Quote from: "SM:M3"Quote from: "JelleP"Did anyone noticed who's engraved in the currently discussed arch?
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It's Gusteau! If you look very close, you'll see him engraved in the arch like this:
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I would say it's not just a rumour anymore! :D
Sorry, beat you to it on the last page :P
Although we haven't heard much about this project for a few weeks now
I beat you to this ages ago JelleP - at least a few weeks and indeed pages back, when I described the tunnel! :thumbs:
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Quote from: "Whip"I beat you to this ages ago JelleP - at least a few weeks and indeed pages back, when I described the tunnel! :thumbs:
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Ah... :oops:
Well... is this something new than (for people who aren't on Twitter ;)):
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You can really see how huge the arch really is... :shock:
ooh very exciting! Can't wait to see this area close up in a few weeks :D
It is far bigger than I expected and should look so good when finished. Anyway, according to DCP members the benches have little Ratatouille elements on them, further enhancing the theming.
DLP.info has posted some pics of the new Parisian area of WDS...
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This looks like real Disney quality. I think I will postpone my trip to DLRP until Ratatouille is open.
Eeeeeeek! It looks BRILLIANT! I can't wait. :D
Looks awsome!
Yeah the bridge looks fantastic! :D
But the orange racetrack spoils the look somewhat imho.....
Awesome. 8)
What I like about this is they haven't made it too realistic; as in, it looks like Paris but also has that slight toony look.
Quote from: "RnRCj"What I like about this is they haven't made it too realistic; as in, it looks like Paris but also has that slight toony look.
And that's exactly what I like about the Toon Studios! It's not
too reacistic :thumbs:
And I´m SO exited about these new pictures :D
Oh my, this is awesome! Can't wait to see the first concept art of the showbuilding itself. Finaly some 'atmosphere' in the Studios besides Front Lot and, yes, Toy Story Playland.
If they play Michael Giacchino's awesome soundtrack in this area, have some bubbling fountains, and sell fresh crepes, it's going to be the best area in Disneyland Paris :-)
Thumbs up from me.
Quote from: "Alan"If they play Michael Giacchino's awesome soundtrack in this area, have some bubbling fountains, and sell fresh crepes, it's going to be the best area in Disneyland Paris :-)
That would be awesome! The soundtrack is amazing, so with only the music it would be great :D
Well this is more like it. :D
After all the negative criticism I have had to give in regards to Toy Story Playland plus the recent budget cuts on park hours and entertainment its nice to finally have something to cheer about at Disneyland Paris. I really like the cobble stone street. And the Gusteau image above the archway. Something tells me watching the development of Ratatouille will be far more interesting than what it has been for Toy Story Playland.
for me that has to be the BEST and only good part of TSPL lol
Wow, I didn't really expect much from the Parisian being as Ratatouille hasn't been started yet but it looks great!
Quote from: "RnRCj"What I like about this is they haven't made it too realistic; as in, it looks like Paris but also has that slight toony look.
Agreed, it's Paris with a slightly toony edge, exactly what is needed for Toon Studios
Looks like we have another "La Terrasse" on our hands. That promises us toilets in three years, a ride in five!
The photos look awesome :thumbs: What better way to advertise Ratatouille than seeing the tunnel each time you visit the park.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Looks like we have another "La Terrasse" on our hands. That promises us toilets in three years, a ride in five!
I just hope it won't take that long... :roll:
i thought the ride would open for the 20th birthday 2012 ??? :?
The last thing I heard was that it would be open September/October 2012, and wouldn't be ready for the actual 20th birthday in April 2012.
Quote from: "Alan"The last thing I heard was that it would be open September/October 2012, and wouldn't be ready for the actual 20th birthday in April 2012.
Hmmm, that's a shame...
Maybe it's better when they open the ride in 2013, just like what they did with the ToT. But they need something else for the 20th birthday in 2012, like Crush's Coaster and Cars Race Rally with the 15th. Star Tours II could be a solution :-"
Quote from: "Alan"The last thing I heard was that it would be open September/October 2012, and wouldn't be ready for the actual 20th birthday in April 2012.
It's funny how they cannot time the opening of new rides a bit better. Ratatouille in sep/oct, TSPL in mid. aug - you would think the attractions should work as main advertisement for "their" year, but I guess they have other plans. Give people a reason to come off season, which could prove to be a smart view.
The first pictures of the parisian area seem great - if it leads up to an attraction of the same quality as the one the "Toilets of Terror" led upto it can only be great for the resort.
Quote from: "forza_united"Quote from: "Alan"The last thing I heard was that it would be open September/October 2012, and wouldn't be ready for the actual 20th birthday in April 2012.
It's funny how they cannot time the opening of new rides a bit better. Ratatouille in sep/oct, TSPL in mid. aug - you would think the attractions should work as main advertisement for "their" year, but I guess they have other plans. Give people a reason to come off season, which could prove to be a smart view.
The first pictures of the parisian area seem great - if it leads up to an attraction of the same quality as the one the "Toilets of Terror" led upto it can only be great for the resort.
The opening of Ratatouille in late 2012 or begin 2013, has a financial reason. A fiscal year for DLP starts on october 1st of each year. They have to begin paying for a new attraction in the year it is officialy opened to the public. By pushing back Ratatouille's opening to late 2012 (after october 1st), they can start paying for the attraction in the 2013 fiscal year instead of the 2012 fiscal year, in essence, delaying the payment. It gives them 1 extra year to generate more profit and benefitting from the Ratatouille attraction (which should attract more visitors), before they need to start paying for it. It realy is very clever.
Offtopic: I think (but that's only my view on it), we can expect an upgrade to an excisting attraction in 2012, so DLP won't celebrate it's 20th anniversary without any 'new' ride. I think Star Tours 2.0 is the ideal choice here for 2012 and Ratatouille as a new E-Ticket in 2013.
Quote from: "Tuvok"Quote from: "forza_united"Quote from: "Alan"The last thing I heard was that it would be open September/October 2012, and wouldn't be ready for the actual 20th birthday in April 2012.
It's funny how they cannot time the opening of new rides a bit better. Ratatouille in sep/oct, TSPL in mid. aug - you would think the attractions should work as main advertisement for "their" year, but I guess they have other plans. Give people a reason to come off season, which could prove to be a smart view.
The first pictures of the parisian area seem great - if it leads up to an attraction of the same quality as the one the "Toilets of Terror" led upto it can only be great for the resort.
The opening of Ratatouille in late 2012 or begin 2013, has a financial reason. A fiscal year for DLP starts on october 1st of each year. They have to begin paying for a new attraction in the year it is officialy opened to the public. By pushing back Ratatouille's opening to late 2012 (after october 1st), they can start paying for the attraction in the 2013 fiscal year instead of the 2012 fiscal year, in essence, delaying the payment. It gives them 1 extra year to generate more profit and benefitting from the Ratatouille attraction (which should attract more visitors), before they need to start paying for it. It realy is very clever.
Offtopic: I think (but that's only my view on it), we can expect an upgrade to an excisting attraction in 2012, so DLP won't celebrate it's 20th anniversary without any 'new' ride. I think Star Tours 2.0 is the ideal choice here for 2012 and Ratatouille as a new E-Ticket in 2013.
Thanks, that explains a lot... It is obvious that they would want to push the payment for Ratatouille - hopefully this is another sign that we are in for a treat. This cannot be the reason for the late TSPL opening, but I guess it still catches the last couple of weeks of high season.
Yes, I'm sure we are getting something for 2012 when it isn't Ratatouille. Star Tours: The Adventure Continues would be great - this attraction needs some updates. :offtopic:
The cobbles! The benches! The lamposts! It's even better than I imagined!
The existing gradient down into this area also works perfectly to give it a very secluded and enclosed feel, about the first area in the whole park to do that but something almost every other theme park in Europe can manage.
Now how will the costuming building be hidden, either temporarily or in 2013...
Quote from: "Anthony"The cobbles! The benches! The lamposts! It's even better than I imagined!
The existing gradient down into this area also works perfectly to give it a very secluded and enclosed feel, about the first area in the whole park to do that but something almost every other theme park in Europe can manage.
Now how will the costuming building be hidden, either temporarily or in 2013...
I've heard rumours that they will install temporary 'place making' of Paris (like Hollywood Boulevard) to hide that building. They should start installing these this year, at least, according to the rumours. With DLP, you'll never know!
Quote from: "Tuvok"I've heard rumours that they will install temporary 'place making' of Paris (like Hollywood Boulevard) to hide that building. They should start installing these this year, at least, according to the rumours. With DLP, you'll never know!
"Placemaking..." Must be another English term French Disney fans have embraced and given a whole new meaning, like "groom" for the Tower of Terror bellhops. I mean, they're not replacing much here, are they.
But regardless of the term, that sounds excellent, even though we all know it won't be that temporary!
at the end of the day disneyland paris has to watch their budgets after all and its not always possible to build new attractions so star tours 2 is a good way to save money as they hard part (planning and creating) will be done by the other parks and DLP can just buy it from them
also the park only has a limited budget to share around between attractions entertainment and so on
so people need to realise that if new attractions are built then the money comes from someone else's budget
and maybe the 20th anniversary will see the money going to entertainment i know i would like to see more shows back in the parks , dont get me wrong i like the incredible rendez-vous central plaza show but i think the chapparal, videopolis,castle stage and fantasy festival stage need something too
and maybe they could get a new nighttime parade too and i know im not the only one who would like to see the cobles on main street being replaced they are a hazard and the performers in the parades amaze me how they seem to know which parts to avoid..lol
Where abouts in Toon Studios was this. I was there only a few weeks ago and only saw toystory playland. It looks good though. A shame that it will be ages before I go again
Quote from: "Anthony"Now how will the costuming building be hidden, either temporarily or in 2013...
In the long term it will be covered in Paris-style facades, with part of the building incorporated into the land, if my sources are right.
The area is looking great. The aging, the slightly toonish edge, and there are already a few Ratatouille-specific details to point out to your non-fanatic friends or family when strolling by... ;)
Ahh, lovely stuff from those photos. :)
A sure sign that the old Disney we knew before is still there. =D>
Quote from: "RiverRogue"In the long term it will be covered in Paris-style facades, with part of the building incorporated into the land, if my sources are right.
That would certainly be ideal. I mean, a long row of empty facades combined with the Costuming people suddenly deprived of natural light doesn't seem like a good idea somehow.
Are they able to give up the space in the building? (And more importantly, what would they put inside... My guess is restrooms.)
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Thanks for the pictures. So many details, even on the benches. That's Disney I want to see.
why did they do this ???
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Wow! Maybe because of Internet speculation?
Oh what the hell have they done that for, talk about ruining something. Although it does look a little bit photoshopped.
Looks a bit photoshopped - wouldn't they have covered the entire area rather than part, as it would be easier rather than modifying to meet the changing shape and cover it properly?
What the....
If it is real, they should have at least made it fit around the entire thing :P
I don't see why they would do this, considering all the benches have a image of Rattaouille on them aswell...
I hope it's photoshopped! Maybe it's because of the internet speculation, but we're speculating all the time... :P
Well that's... Interesting. I suppose they could want something to "unveil" at some point for an announcement? In any case, it looks extremely temporary. They didn't even bother to cover up the bay leaves...
That looks messy. Surely even when it's taken off the carving/sculpture will be ruined where the join is.
It'll probably be removed in October with a Pumpkinman in place of Gusteau. ;)
Surely that's not real :shock: ?
Quote from: "jwagner"why did they do this ???
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soo odd its like someone made a mistake having it up lol who knows!
My guess is that for the TSPL opening ceremonies they'll set up a stage area blocking the rest of Paris Pathway, and unveil the new area and announce Ratatouille at the same time.. that'd make sense, wouldn't it? I mean it's clear that the area is Parisian and doesn't fit anything else in the surroundings anyway isn't it?
Maybe guests were seeing Gusteaus face and assuming he was in TSPL? Or they asked where the Ratatouille ride was after seeing it? It's very strange..
Seems very odd to cover the Gusteau up, especially after making it so early in the first place.
Is it just me or does the structure covering it look very temporary and not even made from the same material as the rest of the tunnel (kinda gives off a refurb billboard look to me)? This says to me that it'll be gone in time for Ratatouille, or maybe it's a permanent structure and Gusteau will be placed on it?
Quote from: "jwagner"why did they do this ???
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Looks like perfect fit for WDS. There are boxes all over the place.
...perhaps they are rethemeing it to fit more to the latest addions in the park due to popular demand.
It´s easy to see that the box comes off and is temporary. They will probably have a media event showing it off when the ride or new play area is built. The leaves sticking out is a special touch, all in all the worst cover up ever.
Great planning by Disney... again.
Maybe it is an expansion to include more classic toys in the movie studio...
To be a bit more creative, add some paint and have it all rethemed to something people know:
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I could say:
"I love it and my kidds will just have a great time by it"
...but then I would not be telling the truth.
pointless
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:roll: Anyhoo .....
Are we any clearer why they've done this? It does seem really pointless especially with all the great detail on the seats.
I'm thinking Scissorboi might have a point that people think they're going to a Ratatoulie ride and they're ending up in TSPL. Hmmmm.
Quote from: "tubbsy"I'm thinking Scissorboi might have a point that people think they're going to a Ratatoulie ride and they're ending up in TSPL. Hmmmm.
Talk about disappointment!
Here's DLPInfos suggested reason for the box
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any French members here know who the politician who looks like gusteau is?
Great move to cover it up after the image has already hit the net. Is Toy Story Playland having an opening ceremony tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if the Ratatouille Dark Ride is finally confirmed by Disney. I certainly think the park should be raising awareness to the fact this attraction is coming. Hiding Gusteau's face seems a bit odd. Unless plans are in place to annouce it to the media very soon. I certainly hope the park will do some sort of annoucement and not just leave it up to the Internet to annouce like it did for Toy Story Playland. Especially also after Mr Gas was out posing for pictures for the groundbreaking ceremony for the Earl of Sandwich. Although I'm sure it was the Earl of Sandwich that requested the ceremony.
I think the second line is just a cover up... I mean come on, why would Disney put a carving of a French politician holding frying pans over an archway :?
It sounds like its just an excuse to try and hide the fact the ride is going ahead maybe?
And too true Malin... Whats the point of covering one aspect up after everyone on the internet already knows about it... :shock:
Quote from: "PetiteSirene"Whats the point of covering one aspect up after everyone on the internet already knows about it... :shock:
=D> I don't see the point in that either.
The only people who will get the reference and will get a thrill out of seeing it are the geeks on the net. Since we already know of the existance of the image. No point in hiding it, as for the average park fan this detail will go un miss with most failing to understand or get the reference.
I can't understand why they want to cover up such a lovely touch. If they are going to do it, at least cover it well!
Also, have you seen this - can't really build a little box over all of these!
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I think the thing is that Remy on the benches aren't in your face where as Gustau is... But thats still no reason to cover him up! :? I hope they dont damage it with what they've attached the box with!
I love the benches with Remys face. :D
Cant wait tfor the ride to get built i hope its soon. I also dont get why they have covered it up it looked great before.
I have a friend out there at the moment and he asked a CM about it, as far as they were aware its been covered over for the official opening of TSPL so people talk about TSPL and not about the rat. Makes a bit of sense I suppose.
Quoteso people talk about TSPL and not about the rat.
I think it says a lot about the confidence Management have in Toy Story Playland if it feels the need to hide a moral with Gustau's face on it. Perhaps if what you say is true, this could be the closest we get to Management and Disney admitting the TSPL concept is flawed.
Quote from: "Malin"Quoteso people talk about TSPL and not about the rat.
I think it says a lot about the confidence Management have in Toy Story Playland if it feels the need to hide a moral with Gustau's face on it. Perhaps if what you say is true, this could be the closest we get to Management and Disney admitting the TSPL concept is flawed.
Could be or maybe they dont want attention taken away from TSPL, as much as I like it Im looking forward to Ratatouille more.
Quote from: "RockNRoller"I have a friend out there at the moment and he asked a CM about it, as far as they were aware its been covered over for the official opening of TSPL so people talk about TSPL and not about the rat. Makes a bit of sense I suppose.
That's the only logical conclusion. There will be press at the resort for the official opening and pictures or video's from Gusteau is distracting the focus on TSP now. No panic! The Rat is coming to Paris by the end of 2012 or the beginning of 2013. :D
Well I guess they covered it up in order to avoid confusion. Not everyone is aware of every single detail, event, future projects, rumors about DLP like us 8) . Most probably people were entering TSPL and asked where Ratatouille is. Until they make an official announcement and place signs for the construction of the new area/ride, it will stay covered. And I think that they did well. I can't wait for the official announcement!
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Quote from: "The Helmsman"Well I guess they covered it up in order to avoid confusion. Not everyone is aware of every single detail, event, future projects, rumors about DLP like us 8) . Most probably people were entering TSPL and asked where Ratatouille is. Until they make an official announcement and place signs for the construction of the new area/ride, it will stay covered. And I think that they did well. I can't wait for the official announcement!
That means that Gusteau will be covered until Ratatouille is finished.
This sort of reminds me of the Hollywood Tower Hotel logos that were in the La Terrasse area long before they even started digging for the Tower of Terror. It was so obvious, but over looked. If Gastons face had not been photographed, who long would it have taken to spot Remy?
I got back early this morning and the covering is really there, it looks horrible, the leaves are easy to see and so is the horrible join! It might not of been so bad if they had covered it all but I can't see how they will get it off without causing damage to the beautiful carving!
Many people were not going down the tunnel just using it as a shelter! The ones who did were looking for details I saw many people get excited when they did find the rats on the benches!
I posted these on the DLRPToday twitter (//http://twitter.com/DLRPToday) on the 17th:
QuoteTom Fitzgerald and other Imagineers are standing shaking their heads at the covered-up Gusteau carving! Taking pictures on their phones. Ha!
10:24 AM Aug 17th via Twitter for iPhone
QuoteAnd now pointing to the walled-off costuming building, site of the future ride. Ah, how close can you stand before it looks weird?
10:26 AM Aug 17th via Twitter for iPhone
So let me explain a bit more...
There were several Imagineers waiting in the wings of the Toy Story Playland opening (including Tom Fitzgerald and a female Imagineer I remember from the WDS opening promos), and after I jumped straight on Parachute Drop it wasn't hard to spot them again walking around the land. Pretty soon they walked down to the tunnel and then turned around to look up at the carving... one of them appeared to hold their arms out with a slight look of "what can we do"/"oh well" exasperation, while the woman (must look up her name...) took a photo on her phone! That made me laugh. (Can you imagine the phone calls back to Burbank?)
They were stood for a long time looking at it and discussing it but I didn't catch much, sorry. I'll have to improve my crazed-fan-following-Imagineers-around-the-park skills. ;-) I did overhear two (more official) looking suits stood near the Barrel of Monkeys kiosk - one kinda gesturing towards Costuming and saying "what will this be?" and the answer definitely "façades", so that backs it up again for what will happen to the side of the building.
And then again on the 18th, with a photo this time:
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I was sat on the bench next to the tunnel and one of them returned with a friend/colleague from behind the blue gate, appearing to be explaining why it was covered up. I think I heard something about the angle being wrong..? The man pointed up along the Paris street imagining people walking towards it. So one thought I had myself is that someone somewhere decided they don't like
Gusteau being above the entrance to Toy Story Playland. I mean, you don't have a symbol of Frontierland above the entrance to Adventureland... right? It doesn't actually make a lot of sense. Maybe it's just covered over while they decide what to replace it with. But then how would the faux-carving have made it so far through planning and construction?
If it's not removed, I don't think we'll see it again until the opening of the ride, that's for sure. The joining of the box onto the tunnel doesn't look like something they'd just do for a few weeks for the Toy Story Playland opening, but I could be wrong.
Finally, I was grabbing some last minute videos while it was (at last!) sunny yesterday, and wandered down there to see a group stood in the
middle of the street, further up, pointing over at the corner of costuming where a shop is rumoured. A bench next to them just happened to be empty (all the others were full, it's a popular area already), and despite the screams from RC and (really loud) sound effects of Parachute Drop I quickly worked out they were something to do with merchandising... They were
all about getting people into the shops, oh boy, but more encouraging: maximising merchandise variety.
One British man was very keen on variety and was quite passionately explaining that if people walk into a shop
within the park and see the same merchandise as everywhere else, then they won't bother again. They'll feel like they're wasting their time (and I guess just leave it to the end of the day) - and importantly, there's no point building a
new shop if it's just going to tell the same stuff as everywhere else. He seemed to be saying there were a lot more opportunities for good merchandise - at Crush, he suggested the "mine mine mine" seagulls would be perfect! Brilliant guy.
Overall, they seemed very concerned about getting people into this shop, making it different to the others. He referenced Star Traders and "the Bazaar" a lot - saying you can't get more variety than "the Bazaar" (the closed Adventureland Bazaar? not sure) - and seemed to be setting out to get more people into shops during the day, before they even ride the attractions. The big big conclusion seemed to be: "Where are you going to get them to go first?". I think they were even discussing interior layouts: "kitchen table" was mentioned! Haha!
So, lots happening around here this week. I understand I'm being one of those awful people who posts things they overhear, but so what. It's very exciting to see this kind of attention given to the Studios.
I'll post some photos when they're done copying. There's also another small but nice Ratatouille detail besides the archway and benches...
Hey guys! :D
Found this sweet article on the Ratatouille Dark Ride....and it claims that works for this future E-Ticket ride should begin this fall or early next year as it will be a major ride - with a budget estimated around 130-150M$ and in the ride we shall find trackless ride vehicles and 3D projection effects along the ride.... :thumbs:
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Enjoy! :D/
Quote from: "Anthony"There's also another small but nice Ratatouille detail besides the archway and benches...
Found it:
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Thanks Anthony for this great pictures. It's good to see such details. I'm already excited about Ratatouille and can't wait until it opens.
IT's agreat that the Imagineers talk about the new shop and the variety of merchandise. They are absolutely right that people don't buy until the evening when every shop sells the same stuff. I'm glad they realized it. It was about time. And hopefully we will see some quality merchandise and not crap like during Mickey Magical Party.
Love your 'imagineeringreport', Anthony!
I honestly don't think that they would cover up Gusteau because it has 'a wrong angle' or should be somewhere else. I've spooken to some Cast Members and they all told me that they covered it up because of the focus on Toy Story Playland now. They don't want 'the buzz' (bad choice of words here haha) to be concentrating around the coming Ratatouille attraction.
The street looks so great. I can only imagine how the actual Paris area and ride will look like.
@ Dagobert: It's not realy about the themeyear 'crap', though I have to agree on that one (New Generation Festival merchandise is way better). It's about specific merchandise which are related to the shops location. I absolutely love that the Barrel of Monkeys shop inside TSP is exclusively selling Toy Story stuff. Not that I would buy any of them, but finally they are having themed merchandise in the RIGHT location.
Quote from: "Tuvok"Love your 'imagineeringreport', Anthony!
I honestly don't think that they would cover up Gusteau because it has 'a wrong angle' or should be somewhere else. I've spooken to some Cast Members and they all told me that they covered it up because of the focus on Toy Story Playland now. They don't want 'the buzz' (bad choice of words here haha) to be concentrating around the coming Ratatouille attraction.
The street looks so great. I can only imagine how the actual Paris area and ride will look like.
@ Dagobert: It's not realy about the themeyear 'crap', though I have to agree on that one (New Generation Festival merchandise is way better). It's about specific merchandise which are related to the shops location. I absolutely love that the Barrel of Monkeys shop inside TSP is exclusively selling Toy Story stuff. Not that I would buy any of them, but finally they are having themed merchandise in the RIGHT location.
I didn't have a problem with the theme, but I think the merchandise offered last year was of poor quality and that it was sold in every shop. That's what I mean, Toy Story merchandise should be sold in TSPL and at Buzz Lightyear Laserblast, but not in Frontierland.
Thanks for pasting that Anthony, really intresting. It's very true about the merchandising though, by the end of our stay we ended up avoiding in park shops and buying everything we wanted in the village.
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"Thanks for pasting that Anthony, really intresting. It's very true about the merchandising though, by the end of our stay we ended up avoiding in park shops and buying everything we wanted in the village.
Yeah indeed, same thinking here.
Would be great to see some more specific shops and we will have to see all the shops and hunt for the special
stuff!! :lol:
Great info Anthony :thumbs:
Quote from: "dagobert"I didn't have a problem with the theme, but I think the merchandise offered last year was of poor quality and that it was sold in every shop. That's what I mean, Toy Story merchandise should be sold in TSPL and at Buzz Lightyear Laserblast, but not in Frontierland.
I agree fully! :thumbs:
Quote from: "Tuvok"I absolutely love that the Barrel of Monkeys shop inside TSP is exclusively selling Toy Story stuff
Sorry to burst the bubble but there was cars merchandise in barrel of monkeys which I was very disappointed to see! Also all the merchandise in there was available everywhere else! (Sorry off topic)
I hope they do sort this out though and not just in time for ratatouille but for other areas of both parks and improve what they sell as well! Maybe they could do some ratatouille kitchen stuffand decent toys! For example I was very dissapointed by the lack of toys from Toy Story available to buy, no Woody dolls, no Jessie dolls, no Rex, no Ham piggy banks etc they need to really look at this for ratatouille and get good quailty merchandise that people want to buy!
Quote from: "disneylandparisgirl"Quote from: "Tuvok"I absolutely love that the Barrel of Monkeys shop inside TSP is exclusively selling Toy Story stuff
Sorry to burst the bubble but there was cars merchandise in barrel of monkeys which I was very disappointed to see! Also all the merchandise in there was available everywhere else! (Sorry off topic)
I hope they do sort this out though and not just in time for ratatouille but for other areas of both parks and improve what they sell as well! Maybe they could do some ratatouille kitchen stuffand decent toys! For example I was very dissapointed by the lack of toys from Toy Story available to buy, no Woody dolls, no Jessie dolls, no Rex, no Ham piggy banks etc they need to really look at this for ratatouille and get good quailty merchandise that people want to buy!
Strange. I've take pictures of all the merchandise (see my Windows Live Photos like earlier in this topic) inside the new shop and it's all Toy Story. Maybe you think that the stuffed 'cars' (which are themed to Buzz Lightyear and Woody) are 'Cars' merchandise from the movie? It's not.
Yes, you're right that the merchandise is also available in other shops, but my point was that they have now a shop which only sells Toy Story merchandise. I also agree that the other shops, with exception for Constellations next to Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast, can stop (or at least decrease) their Toy Story merchandise now.
Getting back to the subject of the Gusteau cover up. I see very little purpose in hiding it, so not to take the attention away from TSPL. Over at DCA, Management took the opportunity for World of Colours media event to promote all the upcoming attactions coming to the park in the next few years. Here at the Studios in Paris the Management seem to want to hide all future developments. Doesn't make sense to me!
Excellent journalism, Anthony. I also believe you're the first one to spot the chef's hat bollard.
Quote from: "Anthony"There were several Imagineers waiting in the wings of the Toy Story Playland opening (including Tom Fitzgerald and a female Imagineer I remember from the WDS opening promos), and after I jumped straight on Parachute Drop it wasn't hard to spot them again walking around the land. Pretty soon they walked down to the tunnel and then turned around to look up at the carving... one of them appeared to hold their arms out with a slight look of "what can we do"/"oh well" exasperation, while the woman (must look up her name...) took a photo on her phone! That made me laugh. (Can you imagine the phone calls back to Burbank?)
They were stood for a long time looking at it and discussing it but I didn't catch much, sorry. I'll have to improve my crazed-fan-following-Imagineers-around-the-park skills. ;-) I did overhear two (more official) looking suits stood near the Barrel of Monkeys kiosk - one kinda gesturing towards Costuming and saying "what will this be?" and the answer definitely "façades", so that backs it up again for what will happen to the side of the building.
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I was sat on the bench next to the tunnel and one of them returned with a friend/colleague from behind the blue gate, appearing to be explaining why it was covered up. I think I heard something about the angle being wrong..? The man pointed up along the Paris street imagining people walking towards it. So one thought I had myself is that someone somewhere decided they don't like Gusteau being above the entrance to Toy Story Playland. I mean, you don't have a symbol of Frontierland above the entrance to Adventureland... right? It doesn't actually make a lot of sense. Maybe it's just covered over while they decide what to replace it with. But then how would the faux-carving have made it so far through planning and construction?
I thought it a bit unusual as well to have Gusteau welcoming you to Toy Story Playland. Then again, what could they do? Replace it with a faux-carving of Rex? In any case, in a park so riddled with flaws it seems silly to get quite so critical over something as nice as this.
QuoteFinally, I was grabbing some last minute videos while it was (at last!) sunny yesterday, and wandered down there to see a group stood in the middle of the street, further up, pointing over at the corner of costuming where a shop is rumoured. A bench next to them just happened to be empty (all the others were full, it's a popular area already), and despite the screams from RC and (really loud) sound effects of Parachute Drop I quickly worked out they were something to do with merchandising... They were all about getting people into the shops, oh boy, but more encouraging: maximising merchandise variety.
One British man was very keen on variety and was quite passionately explaining that if people walk into a shop within the park and see the same merchandise as everywhere else, then they won't bother again. They'll feel like they're wasting their time (and I guess just leave it to the end of the day) - and importantly, there's no point building a new shop if it's just going to tell the same stuff as everywhere else. He seemed to be saying there were a lot more opportunities for good merchandise - at Crush, he suggested the "mine mine mine" seagulls would be perfect! Brilliant guy.
Overall, they seemed very concerned about getting people into this shop, making it different to the others. He referenced Star Traders and "the Bazaar" a lot - saying you can't get more variety than "the Bazaar" (the closed Adventureland Bazaar? not sure) - and seemed to be setting out to get more people into shops during the day, before they even ride the attractions. The big big conclusion seemed to be: "Where are you going to get them to go first?". I think they were even discussing interior layouts: "kitchen table" was mentioned! Haha!
Well, of course he means the Adventureland Bazaar! If only that man were able to convince the powers that be to build a Parisian version of it, an interconnected series of small shops selling Mickey Mouse macarons and quality kitchenware. Although I'll gladly settle for his kitchen table shop at this point.
Well, it all sounds very promising. Keep stalking these people.
in my opinion looking at all of the benches lamps etc that have been placed ALONG where Ratatouille is rummered to be placed, surley this must be coming? and surley it cant be that long before they announce it? after all all the theming is already there, it has nothing to do with TSPL maybe we should all email into DLP about it and bug them lol
I talked to one of the cast members, two weeks ago!
And i asked him, "is the Ratatouille dark ride still just a rumor?"
He said that this ride was not a rumor anymore!
The ride is actualy going to be buildt!
And from what i could se, when i was visiting Toy Story Playland.
The construction has alredy been started:-)
Quote from: "Ole Vidar"I talked to one of the cast members, two weeks ago!
And i asked him, "is the Ratatouille dark ride still just a rumor?"
He said that this ride was not a rumor anymore!
The ride is actualy going to be buildt!
And from what i could se, when i was visiting Toy Story Playland.
The construction has alredy been started:-)
WOW cool!!
You can clearly see the land has been cleared behind the blue walls when riding the parachutes
the army men ride is going to us fans the best updates for the new ride - its a fan bios dream to be able to get behind the scenes pics sooooo easily :-)
Hopefully he's wrong, but user ulpaco on the MiceChat forums says "Ratatouille is rumored to be cancelled."
Quote from: "Alan"Hopefully he's wrong, but user ulpaco on the MiceChat forums says "Ratatouille is rumored to be cancelled."
Where does this rumour come from? Is that user a CM? There are so many proofs that it is coming. But maybe that's the reason why Gusteau is hidden.
Perhaps it got replaced by some carnival rides like TSPL. Disney thinks that the lines are so long, so TSPL has to be so popular. Now they are going to expand it. Just joking!!
Hopefully this rumour is not true.
Quote from: "Alan"Hopefully he's wrong, but user ulpaco on the MiceChat forums says "Ratatouille is rumored to be cancelled."
If this is true, I will personally hunt down Phillipe Gas :lol:
bad rumour :-( maybe Kristof can find anything out about it????
I can't see it being true, especially after they've went as far as creating the Parisian area in preparation for it.
Unless I see some evidence or a reliable source stating it's been cancelled then my view will stand, you don't just cancel a project like this when there's already evidence of it happening. Postpone maybe, cancel no.
This rumour first came up right afther the first picture of the coverup of Gusteau. I've seen the rumour on several Dutch fansites, but it's based purely on the fact that the face of Gusteau was covered up. We all know why they did that. Ratatouille is coming. No worries. Problem with these kind of falls rumours is, you can't get them offline anymore once they're 'out there'.
Very subtle addition to the costuming building :lol:
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Source: http://www.disneygazette.fr/festival-ro ... s-428.html (http://www.disneygazette.fr/festival-rock-n-roll-disney-village-2010-toy-story-playland-rc-racer-news-428.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Why would they bother adding Studio number theming to the Costuming Building if they're going to hide it behind a Paris facade? This just gives more strength to the rumours that the Ratatouille ride has been cancelled!
Quote from: "Alan"Why would they bother adding Studio number theming to the Costuming Building if they're going to hide it behind a Paris facade? This just gives more strength to the rumours that the Ratatouille ride has been cancelled!
Maybe it is just temporary until the facade is built, but usually such small things to improve the theming don't happen in Paris.
If the rumours that it has been canceled are true then they better have a spectacular plan B.
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"If the rumours that it has been canceled are true then they better have a spectacular plan B.
Here here. Although it limites thier choices ince they've already themed the area.
I think (
hope) that the ride'll go ahead. The new sign on the Costume Building is peculiar though.
I'm going to go with the idea that the studio number on the costume building is temporary, and is just there to make way for Ratatouille which is adopt the sign (or at least the "Studio 4" name).
Does anyone know where this rumour of Ratatouille being cancelled first popped up from? I'm still certain that this rumour is false, maybe created my someone just to bring more 'controversy' to WDS.
Ratatouille is NOT cancelled. As discribed before, the rumours about a possible cancelation is related to the cover-up of Gusteau's face on the arch leading to TSP. They've added the Studio 4 sign to the facade of the Costume Building to let visitors believe it's part of the Studios. The reason why? The building is now actualy visible because the Paris street has been open for the public. It was never meant to be visible to the public, so they needed to look like it was part of the park. They will put placemaking decors of Paris in front of this building, but for the time being, those theming pieces are not yet available.
maybe they gona use it for something else just now like tours of the costume department but if I remember right or wrong did they or were they not going to move this to marnie la ville?
Something new with Rattatouille, please?
Quote from: "ulak"Something new with Rattatouille, please?
I'm not sure if this counts... but there appeares to be a rust problem with the grates around the bases of the trees:
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Wow... that cant be good for the trees... or kids...
Quote from: "sebassah"Wow... that cant be good for the trees... or kids...
Are you suggesting that children would eat rust? If a parent let their kid do that then it serves them right. Anyway rust isn't harmful at all (unless you eat it) so a bit of a wire brush and some paint will solve that.
Providing the ride is well themed and up to the standard we excpect from Disney I would not care what it was because unlike the Merlin attractions the main audience is children so I am not looking for any amazing ride just something that has the Disney factor!
Hey, I'm new to the forum, but see this article by the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... tions.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/8055883/Euro-Disney-chief-Philippe-Gas-defends-debt-Disneyland-Paris-working-conditions.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;) - Phillipe Gas describes his commitment to the idea of Ratatouille in the parks and major expansion of The Studios, quote - "Ratatouille is perfect, as it is set in Paris," he said, pointing to a large wall poster of the film in his office.
the best part of that I have read is "Later down the line, the construction of a third theme park is also on the agenda. "
The bit about 26 years of payments, presumably 26 years to fully pay off the debts, didn't sound too good. Why can't the Walt Disney Company just instantly pay it off for them? Problem solved. Sure, the WDC would lose a bit of money, but 26 years is an awfully long time to wait. Disneyland Paris may not be fully owned by the WDC, but it's family; everything about it is Disney.
But, I like hearing the top guy talking about expanding the Walt Disney Studios Park, a Ratatouille ride, and a 3rd theme park. All positive stuff.
Quote from: "Alan"The bit about 26 years of payments, presumably 26 years to fully pay off the debts, didn't sound too good. Why can't the Walt Disney Company just instantly pay it off for them?
I wonder this all the time, can't think of any good reason for them to treat DLP like this.
I agree, I've always thought, if I was in Bob Iger's chair, I'd buy DLP, because that would be nice for DLP, financially and other numerous ways, plus I'm sure this debt is dragging TWDC down financially each year (maybe only slightly, but still).
TWDC can't buy DLP or just give them money to pay their dept. The French law prohibits it. It is not possible for a foreign company to just give that amount of money to a French company (Euro Disney S.C.A.). That's why there are several new 'fincancial contructions' in place in order to let DLP keep expanding despite their dept. For instance, In the last anual report, there was talk about TWDC builing new rides and that DLP could 'pay them off per month or per year', so DLP wouldn't have to finance the rides themselfs all at once. It all comes down to the French law. Remember when the agreement with the French government clearly stated that DLP HAD to built a 2nd gate within a time period? If this agreement wasn't made, the 2nd gate was never built in 2002. Now the French government sees that it's impossible for DLP to built a 3rd gate by 2017, so the contract is extended.
^^^^Thanks for shedding some light on the restrictions involving French law, I do know about the many restrictions and laws that were put into place in 1985 - 87 upon the initial contract signings (video here on my YouTube Channel showing a French news report of the final contract signing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qeWxYLTKME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qeWxYLTKME%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)), plus the measures put into place in 1994 due to the financial difficulties. Does anyone know if any of this debt is still owed to TWDC or was all the TWDC debt "written off" in 2005, or whenever it was ?
Pixiedust shows that construction fences have gone up!
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I could be wrong, but I believe those blue construction fences have been there since Toy Story Playland opened. So, nothing new.
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Didn't a pic get posted a while back showing all diggers etc in the are where Rat is being built...?
Quote from: "SM:M3"Quote from: "sebassah"Wow... that cant be good for the trees... or kids...
Are you suggesting that children would eat rust? If a parent let their kid do that then it serves them right. Anyway rust isn't harmful at all (unless you eat it) so a bit of a wire brush and some paint will solve that.
Well I think there are many ways possible for a kid to touch it and later by accident sticks that same hand in its mouth. A a teacher I've seen kids do weirder things.
You are right on the fixing part, it should be easy.
This topic has been a bit quiet lately. Let's solve that...
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Source: skyam, Disney Central Plaza
Makes me wonder: Will the ride be built around the those trees, or are they for the chop? Because if they go, then it'll open up the whole area far too much -- you'll suddenly have a clear view from Parachute Drop right along the route of the tram tour and over to the backstage offices behind Frontierland.
If they do chop them down, I'm sure DLP-I will come up with a nifty solution for those offices! "Studio 10" anyone? :lol:
That little island of leftover trees seems to almost match the green space in the middle of the plan we saw a while ago:
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Could there be a little Parisian park outside Gusteau's? The trees are a bit big, though...
I'm not sure, but I think they would have removed those trees a long time ago if they were not going to use them...
Quote from: "Anthony"That little island of leftover trees seems to almost match the green space in the middle of the plan we saw a while ago:
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Ya think? Firstly I'd say that little area infront of them trees is about the same shape as that green patch. And secondly, them trees are in the middle of that 'construction' site. Its going to be very small if they dont cut them down.
I always imagined this area was literally just going to be the front of the ride/restaurant, similar to standing outside Pirates.
So what's the current status of the Ratatouille ride? Has it been delayed? Has it been cancelled? Is it on hold? When will construction re-start? Will it be open by 2012?
painful wait T___T
They are still talking about it over on DCP and work could be starting up in March. Everyone expects it to happen, we are just getting twitchy waitng for an announcement or a crane to appear!
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Certainly Monsieur Gas doesn't seem to have too much interest in building new attractions but they have to do something big for the 20th and there's nothing else being seriously talked about. So I guess we just wait.
i don't think this can be ready for 2012, maybe 2013, but for a disney attraction, they've left it too late. maybe they'll pretend dlp's 20th is in 2013 so that they have something new.
Quote from: "peter"i don't think this can be ready for 2012, maybe 2013, but for a disney attraction, they've left it too late. maybe they'll pretend dlp's 20th is in 2013 so that they have something new.
We've been assuming (providing it goes ahead) the opening will be in very late 2012 or 2013 already. It'd be similar to how Tower of Terror opened 22nd December 2007 and was inaugurated in April 2008, extending the 15th Anniversary over two years. For DLP, being able to say "it's our 20th Anniversary!" is enough of a draw for 2012, they won't feel the need to play this valuable card at the start of that year.
Has the construction of this ride started or is it just a rumour?
Has construction started? Kind of.
A Parisian street leading down to the proposed location of the Ratatouille dark ride has been fully built, complete with Chef Remy benches. And the site of the ride has actually been cleared, with blue construction walls put up around it. But construction work on the ride itself hasn't started; no foundations, no vertical construction.
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why must they keep us waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think they'll use the current building to save money, or could it be demolished?
More news coming next week in the disneyandmore blog!
Did anyone attend the shareholder meeting today? I just read through Disney Central Plaza and it seems that Philippe Gas, CEO of ED SCA, said something about Ratatouille. My French isn't the best anymore, so I'm not sure what he exactly mentiones at the meeting. Maybe someone else has some informations.
Translated from Disney Central Plaza:
Philippe Gas, Disneyland Paris CEO, announced a few minutes ago at the General Meeting of shareholders on Ratatouille was a good attraction to the study
Farewell to doubts about the upcoming implementation of this attraction at the Resort!
sorry what does "good attraction to study" mean?
Well I've read that the attraction is "well advanced" which I understand as being well into development.
It sounds like all the plans are ready, they just need to decide when to start construction. But surely construction will actually start this year, 2011, meaning the opening will be sometime in 2013.
Quote from: "Alan"Well I've read that the attraction is "well advanced" which I understand as being well into development.
It sounds like all the plans are ready, they just need to decide when to start construction. But surely construction will actually start this year, 2011, meaning the opening will be sometime in 2013.
I would say that's good news. At least it didn't get cancelled. Hopefully that's not the only new thing for the 20th birthday. Any news on Star Tours II as well?
I haven't read anything about Star Tours II. But to be honest, I would much rather have a proper Ratatouille dark ride, than Star Tours II. If Disney only have enough money to build one of those two rides, then they're absolutely right spending it on Ratatouille.
Quote from: "Alan"I haven't read anything about Star Tours II. But to be honest, I would much rather have a proper Ratatouille dark ride, than Star Tours II. If Disney only have enough money to build one of those two rides, then they're absolutely right spending it on Ratatouille.
I absolutely agree with you on this, but please Disney save some millions and fix at least all the broken things inside Star Tours. It's really a shame how it looks at the moment.
Yipee a rumour no longer!!!!!!!! Rat ride is now confirmed!
Where did you get that it has been confirmed from ?
Quote from: "Elwell2009"Where did you get that it has been confirmed from ?
I think ZINDERELLA got the info from here:
http://www.dlrptoday.com/2011/03/10/rat ... -way-away/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2011/03/10/ratatouille-ride-confirmed-by-euro-disney-ceo-as-well-advanced-but-still-a-long-way-away/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I'm sorry that I don't join the excitement, but as long as there are no plans, concept art or construction, I don't consider it as confirmed.
Well until any of the plans are officially released, I suppose now's a good time to look back at these articles on DLRPToday:
http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/01/22/two ... ng-please/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/01/22/two-tier-ratatouille-with-a-side-of-shopping-please/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/12/28/che ... -by-a-rat/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/12/28/chessy-town-planning-office-infested-by-a-rat/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
One thing I'm confused about, though, is that the plans show that the ride will be built next to the costume building... But isn't the costume building redundant now, so what will it be used for?
Quote from: "Meph"One thing I'm confused about, though, is that the plans show that the ride will be built next to the costume building... But isn't the costume building redundant now, so what will it be used for?
The costuming (Imaginations) building is the main Cast Member building for the parks and the workshop that could be seen from the tram tour is still in use. There have been rumours that this small part of the building could be used for a shop or something as part of the ride, but it's not confirmed.
Important to read this line: "At one time we were hearing the attraction would feature everything from a trackless ride system to 3D glasses and ride-in projection screens, whilst it's impossible to count how many times the ride has been "green lit", according to various sources, when in fact Euro Disney SCA have apparently still yet to agree its financing."
Euro Disney SCA confirmed they're
working on it, I don't think they definitely confirmed it'll get financed and built (though it surely will at this point - it's more a case of when).
I just read on DCP that Disney has registered Ratatouille as a trademark. Since my French isn't the best anymore, I searched here:
http://bases-marques.inpi.fr/Typo3_INPI ... liste.html (http://bases-marques.inpi.fr/Typo3_INPI_Marques/marques_resultats_liste.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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Marque : LA RATATOUILLE
Classification de Nice : 43
Produits et services
* 43 Services de restauration (alimentation) ; hébergement temporaire ; hôtellerie ; réservation de chambres d'hôtel ; cafés-restaurants, caféterias, cantines ; services hôteliers ; réservation d'hôtels et de restaurants ; restaurants libre-service ; services de traiteurs ; maisons et centres de vacances ; bars (débits de boissons) ; centres d'hébergement ; location de chambres ; bistrots ; salons de thé.
Déposant : DISNEY ENTERPRISES, INC., Société organisée selon les lois de l'Etat du Delaware, 500 South Buena Vista Street, CALIFORNIE 91521, Burbank, US
http://bases-marques.inpi.fr/Typo3_INPI ... ml?index=1 (http://bases-marques.inpi.fr/Typo3_INPI_Marques/marques_fiche_resultats.html?index=1%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
At least the restaurant is moving forward, although the description sounds more like a hotel.
You know there is actually a restaurant (non-Disney) called Le Ratatouille, very near Disneyland Paris? It's located at Hotel Des Deux Parcs. Here it is on Google Maps:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 13078&z=17 (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ratatouille+hotel&aq=&sll=48.853647,2.351074&sspn=0.172588,0.287704&g=Paris,+Ile-de-France,+France&ie=UTF8&ll=48.851557,2.612901&spn=0.005245,0.013078&z=17%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
What if they build the restaurant and Parisian themed exteriors BEFORE the ride? Wouldn't that be a good way to make progress on the project, if they can't actually afford to build the ride right now?
Quote from: "Alan"What if they build the restaurant and Parisian themed exteriors BEFORE the ride? Wouldn't that be a good way to make progress on the project, if they can't actually afford to build the ride right now?
I thought the same and I think it would be a smart move, because a nice table service restaurant is really needed at WDS.
Do you think there is a chance that Disney will transform the Manhattan Restaurant and rename it La Ratatouille? Maybe this registration isn't for WDS?
I don't know when or why this happened, but the bollards now have a white band around them:
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It does look good, highlights the Chef hat detail a little more.
Sorry if you were expecting some more exciting news. :P
I expected some more exciting news, since you had that meeting on Friday. :)
But this picture is also fantastic, because I have never realized that there is a chef's hat on top.
So they covered up Gusteau to make the Ratatouille thing less obvious, and added this white strip to make the Ratatouille thing more obvious. Makes sense.
On some italian forum they were linking this sketch from pixiedust.be:
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does it make any sense? someone knows where does it come from?
It definatley makes sense, fits with the other plans seen for the attraction. But this shows more detail.
Just imagine this one rotated slightly
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I like the sound of an Eiffel tower, but I hate to think what it'll look like next to RC Racer...
Glad they're adding new toilets! haha :P
it sounds more interesting now. glad there's some new toilets, the area is actually huge isn't it.
But that seems strange to me. Wouldn't the ride be on the opposite side? There's more room behind it for the ride.
To me, it looks more like a fan-made sketch rather than an official sketch from DLRP, but I might be wrong...
And when I see the things on the sketch, I hope I am ;-)
^I'm with you, that sketch does seem like its a fan's drawing.
Most Imagineers could probably draw the plan better than that (and I'm not trying to sound mean when I say that).
I think the drawing is just a basic visualisation of what the person who drew it was told. That said, I'm doubtful of it, too. :?
Well that puts a whole different spin on it. Well I'll remain cautiously optimistic that's what they're planning.
Is it still ready for 20th Anniversary or canceled? Something new? Thank you!
Do not hold your breathe for the 20th, if indeed ever....
why do you say that dave???
Because they would have started building it by now if they were going to have it done by next year. :) The problem is that we don't even know whether it's going to be built at all, since the project doesn't have a whoever it is that manages the money (if I recall correctly).
Maybe the profits from the 20th anniversary will be able to fund this. :) After then, people probably won't want to come back to DLP for a while, so a new ride like his would give them a reason to come back.
if they were to close the parisian street, it would speed up construction, so in theory for a 2013 opening they just have to start this winter
Do they actually have a plan for the park at all? It just seems like they flit from one idea to another with no reason or rhyme.
What was the point of building all those hints of a Ratatouille attraction only to change their minds?
Quote from: "Hathaway Browne"Do they actually have a plan for the park at all? It just seems like they flit from one idea to another with no reason or rhyme.
What was the point of building all those hints of a Ratatouille attraction only to change their minds?
Maybe WDI in Glendale does have a plan, but since the management in Paris has the last word I'm sure that plan gets mixed up each time someone in Paris decides that a new attraction is too expensive. I don't think that carnival rides like TSPL where ever part of a WDI masterplan. Paris' management wanted new cheap as possible attractions and that's how the park is such a mish mash.
That sounds about right. If that's the way they do things then they shouldn't be able to have attractions proposed until they pony up the money and commit to actual building it first. ;)
According to a DisneyCentralPlaza member a building permit has been given concerning Ratatouille at 20. april.
Some concepts:
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This looks great! Hope it is true this time. ;)
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Thanks for the pictures. It looks amazing and it will be a wonderful addition to WDS. Hopefully construction begins soon!!!
Honestly it looks a bit too good for WDS. Hopefully Ratatouille turns out like seen in the concept art, but after TSPL I can imagine that ED SCA wants to build the ride as cheap as possible and maybe the final product will be different.
This is frickin' excellent news. Thanks to Mouetto on the Disney Central Plaza forum for posting these images. This looks like such a classy attraction; 100% the sort of thing that Disneyland Paris should be building. It's perfect.
The three photos of the plans were taken at 00:30am this morning (16 May 2011) with an iPhone 3GS. Ah, clues ;-)
I guess we shouldn't expect it to open too soon, but 2014 doesn't sound entirely unrealistic, does it? That's my own personal estimation of when this attraction will open. Of course, to get a realistic date you may have to add 5 years on to that.
Also, I read somewhere someone getting excited about this Bâtiment Imaginations building. Bâtiment Imaginations is of course French for Imaginations Building, which is the name of the costuming building/department at Disneyland Paris.
Interesting. I am wondering if my source could be wrong. I have a friend in senior ranks, who leaked to me about Hawaii DVC way in advance, that Dubai was dead, Shanghai and HK before they were known, and has always been spot on with the parks. Their advice was Rat was dead, despite the media interviews. When Phantasialand announced last year an attraction of a very similar theme that opens this year, I thought for sure my source was correct in it being dead.
It will be great if they were wrong (or more likely it was given a repreve after our conversation).
Just found this video of "Maus au Chocolat" at Phantasialand. Yes, it does look similar. It's obviously a cheap copy of the Ratatouille film, but are they building this ride as a response to Disneyland Paris' intention to build a Ratatouille dark ride?
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I am not sure, though it would not surprise me (Phantasialand and Europa Park have been known to copy Disney or to try to beat them to the punch in Europe). Disney used that for an excuse not to have a Jungle Cruise in DLP (in the late 80's, early 90's, Europa Park, Phantasialand, Drayton Manor and other parks had their own copies already), though I suspect weather and language issues were other considerations too.
I think it doesn't matter that Phantasialand has a similiar ride. Ratatouille was very successful in Europe, especially in France and it would be perfect for WDS.
Dave, I really hope your friend was wrong.
Me too, though I must confess there are other things in the Blue Sky stage I would have preferred, sorry, I promised I would not discuss them as they may reveal a source, but there were other more true to theme options they were exploring, some were very exciting and world class. By all accounts, Rat was opted for initially because it used tried and tested tech with an out of the box theme. Shame.
Wow wow wow. This is fantastic, even if it doesnt come to fruition - it just satifies my hunger for knowledge about the ride.
The plans show a variation in the shape of the building, and show where Gusteau's will be (the furthest left hand building, from the arcitecthure and sign above it, stangly not the centre one), and, from the blueprint and concept art, a fountain! (!!!!) Nothing quite ressembles the building from the film yet:
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A few questions:
:arrow: What is the BATIMENT TARZAN, as seen above the BATIMENT IMAGINATION? A storage facility for the show?
:arrow: The road streatching from Cars Race Rally and down past the back of Art of Animation is called Route 66 - has it always been called this?
:arrow: Has there ever been any clue as to what sort of resteraunt is expected to be included here?
Love the fact Linguini's in the concept art. :P
Notice how the shape of the building in these new plans is different to the old plans. Perhaps the ride was delayed because the Imagineers had to change their designs, altering the layout of the facility?
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Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Me too, though I must confess there are other things in the Blue Sky stage I would have preferred, sorry, I promised I would not discuss them as they may reveal a source, but there were other more true to theme options they were exploring, some were very exciting and world class. By all accounts, Rat was opted for initially because it used tried and tested tech with an out of the box theme. Shame.
Even if Ratatouille is a used, tried and tested technology, it is still something we haven't seen in Paris. The ride technology was only used once for the Pooh ride in Tokyo and it is one of the most popular rides in Tokyo. Given ED SCA's financial situation, I think it is the best to use a tested and tried technology, because it is cheaper to maintain.
Agreed, though in Tokyo it is all very good audio animatronics. The plans in Paris is mainly film based. It is ok, but trust me, still falls short of some of the other attractions (but I don't like toons in the parks, so that may taint my view as well - lol). But yes, this could still be very exciting. A family dark ride is very much needed in WDSP, and this would help greatly.
Heck, the Paris street was the best part of the WDSP expansion last year!
I'm all for Ratatouille but if there are ideas out there, like Davewasbaloo says, that are more fitting to the studios theme then I'd rather see them.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Agreed, though in Tokyo it is all very good audio animatronics. The plans in Paris is mainly film based. It is ok, but trust me, still falls short of some of the other attractions (but I don't like toons in the parks, so that may taint my view as well - lol). But yes, this could still be very exciting. A family dark ride is very much needed in WDSP, and this would help greatly.
Heck, the Paris street was the best part of the WDSP expansion last year!
I know you can't unveil the other attractions, but since you prefere them over Ratatouille, I assume that they are not based on toons. Did WDI design the other attractions you have seen also for WDS, or could they be built in DLP, or in other resorts, like Shanghai?
yes, yes and yes.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"yes, yes and yes.
Now I'm really curious!! I'm so excited that WDI still designs attractions not based on toons. It has been a long time that we have seen an original ride. TOT doesn't count, because it was already created in the 90ies. At least HKDL gets two rides not based on toons and hopefully the majority of the SHDL attractions will be original ones.
One reason I'm particularly excited about a Ratatouille ride coming to Disneyland Paris is because of the film's music. All of the best attractions, the really magical ones, are taken to that higher level by having awesome soundtracks. The film Ratatouille has a beautiful soundtrack by Michael Giacchino, just listen to these tracks:
• Wall Rat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYs0-PkwrwU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYs0-PkwrwU%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
• Abandoning Ship http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK1Ux1dYly0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK1Ux1dYly0%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
• Dinner Rush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91T-D6uGNik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91T-D6uGNik%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
If any of this music makes up the soundtrack of the ride, it is going to be a truly magical experience.
Good point Alan, it is a lovely score. Also, if we can get a quality themed table service, that would be awesome too.
Maybe DLRP tested how people would react on a Ratatouille restaurant when they transformed The Manhattan restaurant?
A few weeks ago TWDC registered Ratatouille as a trademark for a restaurant in Paris. I have posted the news somewhere in this thread.
Well there is of course the new Ratatoille restaurant on the new Disney Dream ship, Remy's has lovely gold leaf plates and decore that they could use in Paris to save costs.
The possibility of a Ratatouille resteraunt has brought up the potential of Rendezvous des Stars. It will hopefully lose the Ratatouille theming and the Living Character, and possibly the French inspired cuisine. What then can we expect for Rendezvous des Stars?
I found my post:
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Marque : LA RATATOUILLE
Classification de Nice : 43
Produits et services
* 43 Services de restauration (alimentation) ; hébergement temporaire ; hôtellerie ; réservation de chambres d'hôtel ; cafés-restaurants, caféterias, cantines ; services hôteliers ; réservation d'hôtels et de restaurants ; restaurants libre-service ; services de traiteurs ; maisons et centres de vacances ; bars (débits de boissons) ; centres d'hébergement ; location de chambres ; bistrots ; salons de thé.
Déposant : DISNEY ENTERPRISES, INC., Société organisée selon les lois de l'Etat du Delaware, 500 South Buena Vista Street, CALIFORNIE 91521, Burbank, US
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DLRPToday reports that the ImagiNations costuming building will be converted into a shop and toilets, with the help of detailed facades, akin to Hollywood Boulevard's.
I wonder if it'll be made to resemble the cathedral shown outside the resteraunt in the film.
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This was really great news to come home to after being out all morning. It seems almost set in stone, now! We're so close!
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"yes, yes and yes.
Now I'm really curious!! I'm so excited that WDI still designs attractions not based on toons. It has been a long time that we have seen an original ride. TOT doesn't count, because it was already created in the 90ies. At least HKDL gets two rides not based on toons and hopefully the majority of the SHDL attractions will be original ones.
The Toon Studio is a lot of Fantasyland. It's the bit of the park where all of the toons are crammed together.
Quote from: "Columbiad"I wonder if it'll be made to resemble the cathedral shown outside the resteraunt in the film.
Probably not, they wouldn't want to build a cathedral in a Disney park which are usually neutral regarding religion. Just similar-style Parisian façades to complete the square hopefully.
With these concepts, Mouetto on DCP added that they were submitted to Chessy town hall on 8th November 2010 and planning permission was granted on 20th April 2011. Construction won't begin until the banks agree to the investment.
So what is the idea for the future of the Studios? Not a single addition since the opening of the park has had the original 'working studios' theme?
Though I can kind of see how TSPL, and the Paris area will represent 'scenes' from the film, as if you're on location etc.
Wow, this is exciting news - I will get my hopes all high just yet, but surely the construction clearance is a big step towards this majestic attraction being build...
The artwork is stunning and I think this is exactly what WDS needs (especially if it incorporates some kind of Studio Feeling); water, restaurant, toilets, shop, top class themening and of course a true WDI family dark ride.
The news inspired me a bit :lol:: //http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4498&p=190087#p190087
hey guys, ive only just got an interest in this ride, and with so many posts to read through, i wonder if it would be easier to just ask the question i want to know :)
Do we know what type of ride it will be to ride, will it be similar to crush's, fast with drops, or something like pirates? If nobody knows, what are all your thoughts on this anyway :thumbs:
Quote from: "fly_with_me_dumbo"hey guys, ive only just got an interest in this ride, and with so many posts to read through, i wonder if it would be easier to just ask the question i want to know :)
Do we know what type of ride it will be to ride, will it be similar to crush's, fast with drops, or something like pirates? If nobody knows, what are all your thoughts on this anyway :thumbs:
Well we know that it will be some sort of family dark ride. Rumors are that it will use the trackless ride system used in the TDL Pooh Ride which uses GPS to get through the attraction. According to rumors it will also use 3D projections as the main feature and not so much classic AA's as you find in e.g. the new Little Mermaid Dark Ride... Of course everything remain rumors until confirmed by Disney ;)
could you compare tokyos pooh ride to something in our park, i dont know the rides in tokyo :) and trackless ride??? will this mean its speedy or slow?
Quote from: "fly_with_me_dumbo"could you compare tokyos pooh ride to something in our park, i dont know the rides in tokyo :) and trackless ride??? will this mean its speedy or slow?
Well, it will be pretty unique to Paris but of course the concept of dark ride is similar to Snow White, Pinocchio, etc.. I do not know the speed and so of the Pooh ride, but I guess it is much like the other classic dark rides. It will NOT be a rollercoaster or anything like that as far as the rumors say so far :)
ohhh i see, i arent like a massive rollercoaster fan (crush and btm are my limit). I really love pirates too and always go on its a small world, but pinocchio and snow white bored me when i was little and so now i never go on them :/ I do love Ratatoullie though!!
This picture shows how big the planed building is:
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That is pretty massive when you think about.
(If it ever happens)
Yes and no. If the scale is the same, it will be bigger than It's a Small World and Phantom Manor (not coloured in), but smaller than PotC (as they have not coloured the whole building including the Blue Lagoon section). We do not know how large or small the restaurant section will be.
I forget about the restaurant to be honest. I'm not sure if I think this will be better with the trackless system or Omnimover, due to the fact this is the Studios' first dark ride and Rat was huge in France, I'd say Omnimover would be better because of the capacity it offers, I've heard Pooh in Tokyo can't match Omnimover capacity.
Being Rats in a restaurant, and therefore trying not to get spotted/caught by the chefs couldn't really be done well unless we have the unpredictable movement of the trackless system. A PM style omnimover would be too slow and unsuited to the rat theme IMO.
The attraction was rumoured to be on several levels going back, and this building looks big enough for that.
Come on you bankers, say the word!
It would be great if bankers did something nice :0
Does someone know how long it will take to get the approval from the banks? How long did it take for Tower of Terror and TSPL?
QuoteYes and no. If the scale is the same, it will be bigger than It's a Small World and Phantom Manor (not coloured in), but smaller than PotC (as they have not coloured the whole building including the Blue Lagoon section). We do not know how large or small the restaurant section will be.
If you look carefully you can see that it hasn't all been coloured in, so I'd guess that area infront of the red is for the restaurant etc.
Good spot Martyn, I didn't notice that. Should be sizeable then.
Someone on another forum thinks that Ratatouille would be perfect for the France Pavillion at EPCOT. The movie shown there is really dated and although it was nice to watch it and relax a bit, the movie should be replaced. Nevertheless I'm against Ratatouille in EPCOT, I think the attractions in World Showcase or at EPCOT in general shouldn't be based on Disney toons. Unfortunately WDI ruined Tim Delaney's wonderful The Living Seas Pavillion with Nemo and the Gran Fiesta Tour with the Three Caballeros. EPCOT is about foreign cultures and technology and not about stupid toons. I also think DLRP needs an attraction that no other Disney resort has.
On the other hand, if another resort gets the ride, research and development could be shared by the DLRP and WDW.
Since Ratatouille wasn't that popular in the US like in Europe, there is a possibility that it will only come to Paris.
Selfishly, I like the idea of Disneyland Paris getting clones of the best attractions from Disneyland and Walt Disney World. But I don't like the idea of our unique attractions getting cloned BACK to those parks (e.g. Le Visionarium, Lights Motors Action).
If the Walt Disney Studios Park does indeed get a Ratatouille dark ride, I hope it stays unique to Disneyland Paris. If the Americans want to ride it, they'll have to travel to Europe :-)
Agreed Alan. Though by the same token, I would love Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye, Splash Mountain, Soarin' and a Test Track/Journey to the Centre of the Earth/Radiator Racers type attraction to come to Paris, so if it means they got Rat, so be it.
But Rat should not go into Epcot, Epcot should be really about the country. If WDW did get a copy, then the Studios would be a better location there too.
I totally agree with you guys. DLRP should be the only one to get Ratatouille. I wonder why DLRP wants something unique. Don't get me wrong, it's great, but it also means higher costs due to research and development, while tried und used rides are cheaper.
If WDW gets Rat, then, like DWB already said, it should get built in DHS in the Pixar Studios part. I think I read somewhere that disney thinks about adding a Monsters Inc. coaster.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Agreed Alan. Though by the same token, I would love Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye, Splash Mountain, Soarin' and a Test Track/Journey to the Centre of the Earth/Radiator Racers type attraction to come to Paris, so if it means they got Rat, so be it.
But Rat should not go into Epcot, Epcot should be really about the country. If WDW did get a copy, then the Studios would be a better location there too.
They already got the moteurs stunt show and panoramagique so that's mean we should be getting something in return.
I like the idea of swapping rides but a unique ride for a park is a great benefit I think.
If all rides go to all the parks we don't need to go to disneyland because we can go here in Paris and ride the same rides.
I love the idea what is happening now that we have simular rides but with a little twist. Like TOT and POTC the rides are of the same origin but go a diffrent way.
Ironically, from the looks of the concept art and plans, our "toon" Paris will probably look more realistic than Epcot's, but yes the ride would be totally wrong for World Showcase. The Gran Fiesta Tour for example at least tells you a bit about Mexico, whereas riding through a restaurant as a rat doesn't tell you anything about France. Except that their restaurants are infested by rats?
Hopefully the only WDS/Epcot crossover will remain the benches:
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I wonder if we'll be getting any sort Eiffel Tower with it. Hopefully one better than the flimsy looking replica at Epcot - we're gonna need something a bit more authentic looking if it's gonna fool the locals!
@Anthony
I love France at World Showcase in Epcot. But I know what you mean, it doesn't look totally realistic. I think it's really more to do with the paintwork than the design of the buildings. The colours are too strong and garish to make you believe you're really in France.
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So, yeah, our Ratatouille area will probably look way better than that. And, given that it's going to be 30 years newer, it's kind of what you'd expect from WDI. I think they learnt a lot from Animal Kingdom, in terms of, how to make buildings look so authentic and genuine that you forget you're in a theme park. Hopefully they will apply that knowledge to our Ratatouille area.
Haha, I agree about the French Pavilion. I always think they had a bit too much faith in the power of forced perspective. Although I'm sure it's great for people who are blind in one eye. And yes, the paintwork is odd — everything in Paris is made of grey limestone. So why did they pick those warm Mediterranean colors? Seems more like Barcelona.
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Source: Squeeks, Disney Central Plaza
QuoteThe movie shown there is really dated and although it was nice to watch it and relax a bit, the movie should be replaced.
I absolutely love Impressions de France. It's one of my favourite things at Epcot. The scenery is so inspiring and the music is so beautiful. Actually, I should stress that again. Impressions de France has a PHENOMENAL soundtrack. Yes, the shots including people seem dated and could do with an update, but the landscapes and architecture are timeless.
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The soundtrack was really good and the landscape shown in the movie is beautiful. Maybe I didn't like it that much, because I was already tired. It was one of the last things we have done that day. Although it was nice to relax a bit in the theatre.
Disney should shoot a new Impressions de France movie.
I too love Impressions de France. If I recall, it, like the O Canada movie (the original one) were real world's fair presentations that moved to Epcot. They are designed to showcase the countries they represent. Epcot Center was built as a permanent world's fair, and other than meet and greets, they shouldn't have characters IMHO. This is one of the many reasons I HATE what they did to the Living Seas and Mexico.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"I too love Impressions de France. If I recall, it, like the O Canada movie (the original one) were real world's fair presentations that moved to Epcot. They are designed to showcase the countries they represent. Epcot Center was built as a permanent world's fair, and other than meet and greets, they shouldn't have characters IMHO. This is one of the many reasons I HATE what they did to the Living Seas and Mexico.
Now they have even added the fairies to EPCOT. What do fairies have to do with a foreign cultures and technology. For example in the Mexico Pavillion lines were longer for meeting Donald Duck than for the Gran Fiesta Tour.
i guess though that if you had never been to france, it would seem pretty realistic. what is important to remember is that disneyworld in the 1980s was still mainly for the american market. now there is always someone there who has seen paris at least once there(can't remember where i have seen this statistic)
Are there any new informations about the ride, because DLRP_bopazot from Micechat.com claims that Ratatouille is abck on track and construction goes on.
Construction that hasn't even started "goes on"? :? Do you mean that they're making the preparations for its construction? :)
^ Work has been taking place on that site for some time now.
Quote from: "Martyn"^ Work has been taking place on that site for some time now.
They have only cleared the construction site, but that's it. Disney is still waiting that the banks greenlight the project. As long as there is no approval from the banks, Disney can't start to build the ride.
Vincent from Micechat.com clarified that they are doing something for the electricity, but construction on the ride didn't start.
You can tell that they're confident that it's going to be built. The Imagineers aren't going to want their work to have been wasted. I'm pushing my luck, but I'm really confident that they'll start construction this winter! :D
just wondering, have any planning permissions by a disney park been turned down?
I don't think so. If they allowed the Tower of Terror (which can be seen many kilometres away), then I think they'd accept anything. :)
I may be wrong on that, but I think I read somewhere that the first version of the TOT was not allowed to be built, because it was made of steel and that was against the French Construction Law. That's why the DLRP TOT is made of concrete while the others are made of steel.
As long as WDI doesn't violate any French Construction Laws, there will be no problem.
In Florida TWDC serves as the local government of the Reedy Creek District and of Lake Buena Vista, these are the districts on which WDW is built, and so they can create their own construction codes. There they are just binded by Federal Law.
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Muetto from DCP has posted a picture of the construction site. Unfortunately there is still nothing happening:
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Quote from: "dagobert"I may be wrong on that, but I think I read somewhere that the first version of the TOT was not allowed to be built, because it was made of steel and that was against the French Construction Law. That's why the DLRP TOT is made of concrete while the others are made of steel.
I know that after the Great Fire of London, the king of France declared that all buildings in France must be of stone or brick. While that is still not fully the law, I believe this is why the majority of buildings in France are still concrete. If anyone is local, maybe they could explain better?
Is there any news about the Ratatouille attraction ? It's been really quiet since the last post.
does anyone know if planning permission has been granted yet? i mean, i seriously doubt it will get turned down, but as soon as its granted it'll probably mean an offical announcement with more specs and stuff.
There seems to be a discrepancy between the amount of land in this photo (looks small) and the size of the building in the concept art (looks huge). Can anyone explain this?
It's just the angle. Dlp doesn't look as big from aerial shots but it can take forever to walk around
Yes. The trees probably make it look small as well. :)
Also, yes, the planning permission has been granted. It was through that that we were able to see the concept art of the ride. ;)
Sorry for the double post.
Does anyone think that we'll see any news for this in the D23 expo?
Personally I'd expect this year's D23 to be all Shanghai but given DLP's track record on announcing rides, I'd bet no unfortunately.
Over on Disney Central Plaza they're saying that the banks have given the go ahead :D
Did I ever mention that I love those banks? :D
Good good good
Let's hope this news is true. The sooner they start construction the sooner we can all experience it :-)
I hope that the toilets are still in the plans. They don't have any in the Toon Studio, and the nearest ones are the ones at the back of Studio 1.
There used to be toilets in Toon Studio behind the Art of Disney Animation building I'm sure, did they close them?
Quote from: "ed-uk"There used to be toilets in Toon Studio behind the Art of Disney Animation building I'm sure, did they close them?
They're still in the art of animation building, it's near the Studio Tram Tour.
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Interior elements are being built now, the building itself should take 18 months. Construction to start this year.
Wow! That's great news. :D
just wondering, is the map on page 1 of the ratatouille thread real, because it looks incredibly proffessional
Oh yeah. It looks real. It could be a draft for the actual map that was leaked, but that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere.
The map your talking about is a mock-up, created by a fan by combining the WDS map with the France pavilion from Epcot. It does look very convincing.
oh right thanks, getting excited
Now there seems to be rumours that the ride will be completed next year. I'm sure that that was in the initial plan, but that's obviously cannot happen now.
However, Imagineering have been preparing for this for years. There may be a small chance that they can complete it maybe at the end of 2012.
Good point, if they have been planning this, then it couldbe done fast. Just look atthe progress of the wdw fantasyland expansion.
Off topic, does anyone know if dlp will have a presence at d23 expo?
Quote from: "peter"Off topic, does anyone know if dlp will have a presence at d23 expo?
They've mentioned in a press release that they will have something to say about all of the Disney Parks. They'll definitely say something about Paris, but we don't know how much. I'll probably be mentioned in their keynote on the Friday it starts (the day I go to DLP, so I'll miss it XD ).
It might be Ratatouille that they mention, but it could just be something small like the new colour scheme for the castle.
Thats good. They might mention ratatouille, which would be good as we'd see new visuals
I'd love Disney to create a series of videos following the design and construction of the ride, like they did on the DisneyParks YoutTube channel with the creation of The Little Mermaid darkride. Because the darkride is essentially on the same scale as The Little Mermaid, isnt it? Albeit based on a Pixar film and with a differant system.
Quote from: "peter"Off topic, does anyone know if dlp will have a presence at d23 expo?
Régis (DLP Ambassador) did tell Kristof and myself that they were pushing for a Disneyland Paris presence at D23. I don't know whether they were successful.
But as I've said before, I'd much rather they revealed any Ratatouille plans to their own fans in Europe first. I know we'd get to see the concepts either way, but It'd be disappointing if we were all bypassed for the glitz of Anaheim. No doubt the American fans there would only be fractionally as interested as us anyway. They'd be better off having a kind of "Introduction to Disneyland Paris" stand, just telling people what's actually over here and why they should visit for the 20th.
Quote from: "Columbiad"I'd love Disney to create a series of videos following the design and construction of the ride, like they did on the DisneyParks YoutTube channel with the creation of The Little Mermaid darkride. Because the darkride is essentially on the same scale as The Little Mermaid, isnt it? Albeit based on a Pixar film and with a differant system.
Probably a bigger scale, especially with the restaurant and shop attached! The ride system is certainly far more unique for a start. Those kind of videos seem to be produced for everything Imagineering do, it's just that DLP don't have a good channel (like the Disney Parks Blog) to publish them. There was that one with Toy Story Playland footage that only came to light on the Toy Story 3 DVD. While the Disney Parks Blog shares awesome construction progress videos, the DLP YouTube for example seems more preoccupied with the latest non-events at Disney Village...
They'd be better off having an "Introduction to the World outside of America" stand :-)
Quote from: "Alan"They'd be better off having an "Introduction to the World outside of America" stand :-)
:lol: That is all.
I still doubt there will be much about DLP, and I'd say no mention of Ratatouille at all. DLP has the problem quite a few parks have, they announce a new ride, people then hold off on visiting until it opens, in turn leading to a bad year before opening with poor business figures, henceforth reducing the chance of another new attraction in quick succession.
Oh, who's this? :mrgreen:
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So that's John Lasseter, Tom Fitzgerald and, is that Lisa Girolami in the denim jacket?
Anyway, it's great to see this group of American talent at the Walt Disney Studios park. Hopefully they'll come back after Ratatouille is done and sort out Production Courtyard and the Backlot :-)
I've clearly got a long way to go in Disney fandom, because I've got no idea who they are. XD
So are they imagineers in a very senior position?
Imagineers in a very senior position? Well...
• John Lasseter - Principal Creative Advisor
• Tom Fitzgerald - Executive Vice President, Senior Creative Executive
• Lisa Girolami - Senior Show Producer and Director
I identified another face. The lady to the left of John Lasseter in the first photo is his wife Nancy.
Does this mean ratatouille is go
Quote from: "Alan"So that's John Lasseter, Tom Fitzgerald and, is that Lisa Girolami in the denim jacket?
That looks like Chrissie Allen, another Senior Show Producer. She seems to be quite involved with WDS. I spotted them last year on the opening day of Toy Story Playland, watching and taking photos as people walked in:
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Not sure who the other two guys are there - anyone know?
Ok, so the guy on the right with the beard and the royal blue shirt, is Roger Gould. He's Pixar's Creative Director for Theme Parks. You can see him talking in the Imagineering Pixar for the Disney Parks panel discussion, which was held at the D23 Expo back in 2009:
[youtube:2lv7w90h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRkHqVZHwg[/youtube:2lv7w90h]
And the lady, ah yes Chrissie Allen, Senior Show Producer of Toy Story Midway Mania. I recognise her from the 8 minute segment Blue Peter did on Toy Story Playland last year:
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Yep, they sound like very senior roles. XD Did they also work on the Toon Studio expansion?
How do disney normally make big announments?
Do Paris announce things in a different way to the other parks?
It varies. I'll see if I can find an article on DLRP Today from when TSPL was announced...
*looks*
Oh yeah. The first time we got any confirmation from Disney was via a leak before construction began (August 2009). I think we've reached a similar stage now. As for when it was officially announced, it was one month later in an official document.
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Quote from: "Alan"Ok, so the guy on the right with the beard and the royal blue shirt, is Roger Gould. He's Pixar's Creative Director for Theme Parks. You can see him talking in the Imagineering Pixar for the Disney Parks panel discussion, which was held at the D23 Expo back in 2009:
Oh wow! I saw him reappear later on the Toy Story Playland opening day, through the gate into the Ratatouille construction area. He was with someone else and stopped to point out the bollards with the chef hat motifs, saying something like "we did these..." and pointed up to the covered-up Gusteau. (Which I'd forgotten all about!)
As for announcements, with TSPL it became a running joke that they hadn't announced it even as construction began and those "The Toys are coming" ads appeared on the construction walls. Euro Disney SCA have an odd approach to new investments. They appear to be incredibly worried that at the moment of hearing about any "new attraction" every single visitor will immediately postpone their visit. That's possibly true for some people, but I'd prefer to think the affinity/interest created by following an expansion project is worth more: See DCA. If I wasn't a fan already, I know I was when I stepped up onto that viewing platform at the future WDS entrance back in 2001, and subsequently became an avid follower of what was going on.
But especially since Ratatouille will be coming (at least) a year after the actual 20th, which they'll want all the focus on, I'd be surprised if it's anything but a very muted announcement. Would love to be proved wrong...
Hi folks, I recently emailed DLP and asked about upcoming additions and upgrades, ST2 and POTC, this is part of the reply received from disney. Fairly standard and not saying a whole lot that we don't know but I'll post it for what it's worth,
We are constantly looking at ways to enhance the experience at Disneyland Paris, considering new entertainment and adventures. Last August, we opened Toy Story Playland in the Walt Disney Studios® Park with three new attractions. This summer, the entertaining show The Tarzan Encounter is back in the Disneyland Park for all our fans' satisfaction.
We are also contemplating several new development projects. These projects are at different stages of maturity and subject to administrative and financial agreements. At the moment, the company has decided not to communicate further on any specific development. We hope you can understand why we cannot give you any additional information on the projects you mentioned.
We however actively communicate on our products and new assets. This season, we have launched the Magical Moments Festival, with a dedicated website as well as an intense and diversified communication strategy all over Europe, which highly participates in our presence in the press and the media.
As you know, our 20th Anniversary will be a major milestone for us. You may have noticed that we have been working for several months now on rehabilitating our most iconic assets in anticipation of this extraordinary celebration and to welcome our guests in a sparkling Resort.
Although we won't be opening any new attraction, we will certainly wow our guests with new experiences and festivities that will provide unforgettable moments for everyone.[/i][/b]
Hmm.... I suppose the key phrase there is "won't be opening any new attractions."
on the plus side, the pr people have very good grammar...?
Quote from: "Columbiad"Hmm.... I suppose the key phrase there is "won't be opening any new attractions."
Well, they won't be opening any
next year. If we're talking about 2013 for Ratatouille at the earliest, it won't be technically included as a "20th" attraction yet. You never know, the 20th might only last one year. It's not a given that it'll roll-over and absorb any 2013 additions, like the 15th did with Tower of Terror.
What an excellent reply, by the way! I wonder how many questions they get about future additions - whether they have this as a standard reply, or typed it especially?
Why do I get the feeling that we're all going to mass email them to find out? :P
Anyway, if they aren't going to carry on the 20th anniversary for an unusually long time, I'm not sure what they could do for a themed year. Another New Generation Festival? The rat festival? :P They could have a food year; that would be interesting.
Or maybe, just maybe, they could have a theme-less year. How amazing would that be? A year where the resort is simply Disneyland Paris with no marketing "festival" and all advertisements showed the new ride and how spectacular it is.
Quote from: "Meph"Why do I get the feeling that we're all going to mass email them to find out? :P
Anyway, if they aren't going to carry on the 20th anniversary for an unusually long time, I'm not sure what they could do for a themed year. Another New Generation Festival? The rat festival? :P They could have a food year; that would be interesting.
That´s not realy a bad idea... Think about something like the Food and Wine Festival at EPCOT or DISNEY CALIFORNIA ADVENTURE... how about something like that...
QuoteDisneyland Paris - International Food and Wine Festival
In 2013 Disneyland Paris brings you a new Experiance to his Parks, the International Food and Wine Festival.
The Festival will be presented by Remy and Emile at the Walt Disney Studios. Also New to the Walt Disney Studios is
Ratatouille a new advanced high technology dark ride experiance (okay maybe thats to much, the attraction wont be high tech xD)...
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"Or maybe, just maybe, they could have a theme-less year. How amazing would that be? A year where the resort is simply Disneyland Paris with no marketing "festival" and all advertisements showed the new ride and how spectacular it is.
There's no chance of that. The marketing people know that they bring in the crowds.
Lee over at WDWMagic forum talking abot the D23 expo says:
"Lots of art and models for FLE, Shanghai and Rat in Paris. That is pretty certain."
Yuppie!!! =)
Here's the link:
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interesting read - and another poster on there says the walt disney co needs to spends its money on DLP and the WDS - fingers crossed - although i dont expect much of an announcement as far as Paris is concerned
Funny again nothing about Ratatouille at D23 and why? because of the Mangement of DLP! As long as don´t announce anything nothing will be shown at D23! So lets see when anything about this ride will get announced or not announced xD
there was nothing about tokyo, hong kong or paris this year, not a lot of info at D23. there seem to be a lot of people not happy at this years D23 announcements. Seeing as we havent had an much of an announcement for the WOD store, im not holding out much hope until they break ground.
Ratatouille related. What's the name of the piece of music used in this Ratatouille Road video? I absolutely hate it, but I need to know who composed it and where it's from :D
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I'm fairly sure it's the Press Kit audio for Toy Story Playland, so it's a "free use" track created to sound a lot but not entirely like the actual land music.
Now I'm intrigued why you need to know, if you hate it so much!
I don't actually need to know. I should've said I'd like to know. I like to know who composed certain pieces of music and what year they're from. Is it something that's come out of WDI in America, or is it French Toy Story? :-)
Looks like we got some bad news guys...looks like the attraction won't get the green light due to financial problems... :cry:
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Hmmm, that translatation is actually pretty rotten!
Anyway for those few that don't read Dutch ( ;) ) all this article is saying is that the decision about Ratatouille will be announced before the end of the year, but given the current situation, the chances that the bank(s) will go for it are slim. However there may still be a chance that Disney itself might do something for Paris, seeing as a lot is happening elsewhere.
So not much that hasn't already been said.
Even if The banks won't lend money, TWDC will be able to lend them the money. If they do another billion dollar lending, could you imagine the possibilities?!!
Either way, ratatouille will be built in the next three years. It is one of the only pixar films not used in parks as of yet
Quote from: "DutchBrit"Hmmm, that translatation is actually pretty rotten!
Anyway for those few that don't read Dutch ( ;) ) all this article is saying is that the decision about Ratatouille will be announced before the end of the year, but given the current situation, the chances that the bank(s) will go for it are slim. However there may still be a chance that Disney itself might do something for Paris, seeing as a lot is happening elsewhere.
So not much that hasn't already been said.
Yeah Google translation is bad :P but still it isnt gd news for us all...whatever way happens :?
Quote from: "peter"Even if The banks won't lend money, TWDC will be able to lend them the money. If they do another billion dollar lending, could you imagine the possibilities?!!
I think that's what the banks were saying, IIRC. And to be honest, they have a point. It's about time TWDC got off their butts and start investing in DLP. They should start thinking more long-term about getting their money back and start thinking about their guests. :)
well this is disappointing news hopefully we'll get the green light soon i was really looking forward to this for the 20th
The article isn't really any news, it just connects the dots. If the banks have said or are going to say no, then maybe that will be enough to get TWDC to sit up and take notice. Maybe. After all it is in a large part their decisions (and a fair bit of bad luck)that have landed EuroDisney with all this debt and they really ought to take some more responsibility for sorting it out. It is a bit of a shame that the current management have had to do all these cuts through the recession and when they finally want to spend some real money on a unique, quality attraction someone else can just shut them down.
We've got to give credit to management, they doing the best they can, especially consideringthey weregiven a failing park, and billions in debt
You wonder how much different Disneyland would be if that debt just vanished. They've probably given away hundred of millions of Euros that they could have spent on attractions.
it really is the disney project that should have worked. it just didn't. would we have three theme parks? would we have a water park? one we'll get it all, just not anytime soon, unless twdc do something soon.
but hey, you never know. after $1 billion on california, loads on hong kong, my belief in miracles from disney is slightly higher now!
disneyandmore blog is now saying that both Ratatouille and Jack Sparrow in pirates are 'delayed.'
:D :D :D :D I would love there to be a ratatouille dark ride at disneyland paris. I loove the idea about the sewers but maybe if they did make it a ride they could make it like a slow rollercoaster for the little ones and the ones that don't like fast rides eg; me. I'm sure not alot of you like the idea but i think it would make the little children experience the same rides like us. I know i have a younger cousin and she loves fast rides so disney would need to get the balance just right between Very fast and slow.
I also would like their to be a ride that atchally relates to how Mickey and the gang were first created eg; Mickey,Minnie,Donald,Daisy,Pluto,Goofy and many more. They could even do the ride showed you how Mickey was created then show how like an up to date charcter was created. Like Rapunzel from Tangled. I think this would be a very good ride and i hope disney take's our ideas on board. :D :D :D :D :D :D
recently saw a video of pooh's hunny hunt at tokyo. if it is the same technology then that is fantastic!!!! i can really see how affective it could be, with large rooms being used and near misses with other guests. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After conversations with some senior friends of mine, we need to now ignore the plans for rat. Also, the 20th celebrations are encountering challenges too. Euro crisis and banks are having a very negative impact and wdi hate it as they have some great ideas.
do we need to forget about the rat all together?????? :-( also are WDI having a bigger influence now???
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"We need to now ignore the plans for rat. Also, the 20th celebrations are encountering challenges too.... WDI hate it as they have some great ideas.
This is the saddest thing I have read on these forums in a long time. It sounds like WDI are really turning their attention to DLP at last (what with what Imagineers have said at D23 and the rumours of a possible major expansion), and its typical that when they do, money is at its worst.
Typical!!!
DCA expansion... Going fine
Hong kong expansion... Going fine
WDW fantasyland expansion... Going fine
Dlp expansion... Down the blooming drain!!!
Was California in $2 billion debt? NO
Was hong kong in 2 billion debt? NO
was Florida in $2 billion debt? NO
Is Paris?
Yes, yet somehow in disneys infinite wisdom, they thought "you know what, let's leave the Paris expansion until Greece, Spain, and Ireland are about to collapse! Let's leave it until the uk government are so worried about the euro crisis, they'll take a vote on leaving the EU, there's an idea!!!"
I know a lot of high up people are constantly going on about the "exciting times" rubbish.
I'm gonna tell you a true story. When looking for schools for my son, we went to one school that we quickly left after a presentation with the headteacher. The headteacher said they were going through "exciting times". I quote : "I'm proud to announce that as part of these exciting times, we are getting ... NEW FLOORING!!"
Disney has become the headteacher. DLP is the old floor. These "exciting times" are covering up a mess that Disney are embarrassed by.
Sorry about that. Rant over. :)
Quote from: "peter"I'm gonna tell you a true story. When looking for schools for my son, we went to one school that we quickly left after a presentation with the headteacher. The headteacher said they were going through "exciting times". I quote : "I'm proud to announce that as part of these exciting times, we are getting ... NEW FLOORING!!"
Kind of ironic considering that one of the highlights for this year is indeed new brick floors. :P
completely forgot about that.
oh dear!
Rumours on the Disney Gazette and Disney central Plaza forums are contradictory:
Rat is cancelled, or
Rat is approved for 2014 and there will be something else in 2013.
Also, there is a new sign showing a base for EDI:
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2014 is what I've heard. The bank crisis has caused a delay (Euro Disney has to loan money to build it instead of relying on TWDC).
There's no way it could be cancelled. They've got a site ready and waiting for it to be built. They've already got the Parisian street. Even if it's postponed for a decade, it will definitely be built. :)
There's no doubt, it will get built, let's not forget that otherwise, no other park gets it. WDSP is basically the copy me park of Disney, florida's had some, california's had some, even hong kong has had some
Quote from: "andrewuk"Also, there is a new sign showing a base for EDI:
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Quote from: "Meph"There's no way it could be cancelled. They've got a site ready and waiting for it to be built. They've already got the Parisian street. Even if it's postponed for a decade, it will definitely be built. :)
Well the same could be said for the site of splash mountain. Also, in the original Disneyland there was going to be a liberty street, and a streets of the world, and a discovery bay. There are challenges all the time, and disney have scraped attractiong before with it to show up elsewhere (the hyperion airship in discoveryland was originally designed for discovery bay in disneyland.)
My wdi exec said they have been ready to build rat, but with greece and italy financial problems, the banks will not release any money. There are a number of planned projects, and tspl was a disappointment (what did i warn everyone off over 3 years ago?), so they are considering just pumping meet and greets and happenings into the park. And there is serious discussion about scrapping rat all together (just like beastly kingdom at dak where they built the dragon already). But it is disney, and that means things can change.
Surely that photo that points to a new E.D.L.I. (Euro Disneyland Imagineering) base, is merely for the team working on the new Dreams nighttime show?
yep
When they say TSPL is a failure - in what respect, how do they gauge this? I'm guessing they they had marketing based around it and numbers didn't increase during that time or general attendance in WDS didn't increase with TSPL? It does of course coincide with a period of massive financial hardship all over Europe. Not that I'm trying to defend it as on our last trip we only went as far as Cars - partly because Lucas was too young to go the rides and partly because from my perspective it didn't look that interesting. I'd rather fill up my memory card with even more photos from within Disneyland Park than any from TSPL.
A failure in terms of increasing numbers through the gates (similar problem with Star Tours 2). It is not an issue about the artistic integrity (or lack of imho), insufficient capacity, issues with weather related or technical faults, or a lack of compulsion as these attractions can be found in other parks around the globe. Although i would hope that would help.
The thing is, not every area or attraction has to increase the attendance levels of a park to be worthwhile.
While Toy Story Playland may not have achieved what they designed it to achieve (i.e. increase attendance), it does still increase the range of experiences available at the Walt Disney Studios park, and it does provide the park with its first fully-immersive land that is themed through 360?. Plus it has increased the capacity of the rides in the park, which should help reduce the wait times for other attractions (such as Crush's Coaster).
Very true, and in this economic climate who's to say that it didn't help sustain attendance which would would have dropped without it? It did look very busy when we were there.
Right. Attractions need to be added and updated over time, not necessarily to increase attendance but to sustain attendance and to maintain the quality of the park.
As you said on your podcast, Star Tours should be updated to The Adventures Continue not necessarily to increase attendance at Disneyland Park, but to maintain a certain standard of experience. The older the original Star Tours gets, the crappier and more "broken" it will seem to guests, which will have a negative impact on their entire experience at the park, and ultimately reduce guest satisfaction levels.
I am simply reporting back some internal info. Does not mean I agree. After all, I believe the lack of maintenance over the previous years coupled with a reliance on meet and greets have hurt the place with flat attendance, while merlin, Europa park, phantasialand and efteling have been posting record growth.
Along with my well publicized view that TSPL was a huge waste of money and land.
Yay :) a TSPL discussion! Now where did I leave my poking stick :-"
lets hope that the rise in visitor numbers and the rise in hotel occupancy gives people the confidence to invest. The Rat is a unique attraction and lets hope it goes ahead :-)
Is there definitely going to be a Ratatouille ride or is just a rumour?
Well, it's not just a rumour because concept art and plans exist and have been submitted to the local town hall.
But it won't definitely happen either, it's currently awaiting funding from the banks. Won't be before 2014.
Quote from: "Anthony"Well, it's not just a rumour because concept art and plans exist and have been submitted to the local town hall.
But it won't definitely happen either, it's currently awaiting funding from the banks. Won't be before 2014.
Oh so it might happen, they just have to wait for money?
I think it might end up as part of that "expansion plan"
The news about Ratatouille being delayed is a real shame. But, there is that rumour of a new smaller attraction opening in 2013. Hopefully we'll hear more about that soon, as construction will have to start in 2012 to get anything built by 2013.
I hope we get an actual ride, rather than another meet & greet or photo location.
What amazes me is that the design of TSPL and the Parisian street mean that they are basically impossible to use for entertainment
@Peter
Not every walkway in a theme park needs to be wide enough for a parade to drive down. I actually like the fact the the walkways in Toy Story Playland and Ratatouille Street are narrower, because it makes those areas more intimate, and less like a car park.
Not parade as such, but what I meant was street entertainment. It's amazing the green army men manage to fit in there
Quote from: "Alan"... because it makes those areas more intimate, and less like a car park.
LOL that is so true! I think the rue de Paris would be great for small souvenir cards and Mime players to bring the authentic Paris athmosphere. Since its the studio's park and meant to be backstage and showing how the magic is made it could be part of a "Street movie set" with extra's, directors etc. much like the streetmosphere at Disney's Hollywood Studio's.
All in all 65 :!: banks need to agree to this, and that is all that is being waited for.
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Now that is ridiculous. 65 banks seem like an awful lot.
Quote from: "andrewuk"All in all 65 :!: banks need to agree to this, and that is all that is being waited for.
Source
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Oh my word.
That are a lot of banks. but what I can make out further in that topic there are some nice changes on their way if they all come true.
I thought that too, and it's good that villages nature will be linked to the parks via shuttle buses.
The information about the banks came from a shareholders meeting. The notes were posted by APPAED on Facebook.
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Here's the translated version:
QuoteFIFTH AND LAST PART OF THE MINUTES OF THE ROUND TABLE 4 January
Final Questions
Question: how to keep security personnel is inadequate. They let strollers and bags searched. They are sometimes very violent. Sometimes they chat and let everyone pass.
PG: we have invested heavily in our security service. We are able to know who does what and follow someone. If necessary, they are people involved in civil and try not to disturb.
Question: but one can hide anything, it's very easy.
PG: The property is complicated to be protected. Security is a nightmare. We signed an agreement for the plaza, except a strip in front of the RER. We will be able to act differently. Disneyland Paris is a target in France.
Question: why not ban small planes flying over, it's dangerous.
PG: it has a long way to go. It was about the same passage as Roissy Airport, but it does not have the same powers in security and protection of space. This is progressing slowly.
The growth of the population of Val d'Europe is an issue. Currently 30 000 inhabitants, it is provided in the agreement signed with the state to double. This has implications for the surrounding communities in terms of equipment, infrastructure ...
Question: controls at the entrance of the Park are mandatory?
PG: This is the Vigipirate. We try to make it the simplest and most effective way possible.
Question: What are the future projects, Ratatouille, and after?
PG: Our plan focuses on the Studio. But working with investment constraints: they must request permission to 65 banks. For Ratatouille, is expected.
Then we develop the Walt Disney Studio to make it a complete destination for a day: in attractions, restaurants and shops. There are currently no restaurant where is the mass of visitors. This causes a potential loss.
The development plan includes many ideas, but it's too early to tell.
Question: the banks have less confidence than you?
PG: not necessarily. What is important is that they say yes and no time they take. They have the same interest as us. The Deposit and Consignment Office, the State, they are philosophically with us, but it is a question of availability.
Today the French banks are a little caught up in and have other priorities.
Question: tap into your reserves?
PG: we still have Banks that say yes. The economic fact that it takes time. We signed an agreement with the State for 30 years, so there will continue to work together. The state has invested 600 million euros, which is nothing compared to the return. So there is interest in the machine continues to produce.
Question: there are rumors of amusement ads before the 20th anniversary.
PG: I do not know. Looking at the concepts that work in Europe, we see if it exists at Disney. It was the biggest creative machine in history and the world at our disposal.
Many ideas are circulating, Disney has signed with the director of Avatar to develop a Avatarland to Disneyworld. It is possible to expand internationally.
It also reflects what the Walt Disney Studio in the future.
The same for the Village that the Village should be tomorrow. He has aged considerably. We try to rethink it. Especially in June opened the World of Disney. We must rethink the supply of shops on the street. It is brands that are related with our values ??and the type of visitors looking for.
Geographic expansion is planned.
Some ideas already: there is a great demand for an Italian family restaurant.
The Wild West Show has over 20 years, but it is still profitable, there is no urgency to replace it. There are requests for Broadway, Zorro, for example. But the configuration of the room is special and it would be a shame to lose the ability to restore.
Hotel level you can do better but you have to increase capacity in two categories: moderate and luxury. We can extend the Disneyland Hotel, but must be taken in the parking lot.
We need another luxury hotel at the entrance to a park. We have the potential: we have another For this we have in place.
These are long term projects, of 5 to 10 years.
The Framework Agreement presents concepts, following is the "how to do." Phase IV has been delayed. Negotiations for funding are in progress, this should be finalized in the spring. Meanwhile we are an extension of Phase III.
The Region and the Department have the budget cycles.
End of the Round Table.
QuoteThen we develop the Walt Disney Studio to make it a complete destination for a day: in attractions, restaurants and shops. There are currently no restaurant where is the mass of visitors. This causes a potential loss.
The development plan includes many ideas, but it's too early to tell.
I like this quote. Who said it? Philippe Gas? Ah, just went to the Facebook page, and yes, Philippe said it.
I'd love to see more restaurants in WDS, we never eat there, aside from the odd portion of chips as we leave.
I'd also love to see what their post Ratatouille plans are for attractions. I know he's mentioned in the past about having Marvel in the 3rd park, but I bet they'll find it hard to resist adding something into WDS, given it's suitability and attraction to an older clientèle than Pixar.
What's about the third park mentioned in several posts?
ED SCA needs 65 banks to approve a single ride and people are already talking about a third park in Paris. Which bank would Disney lend the money to build a third park when the two existing parks make hardly any money to have a positive financial year?
The next thing is that ED SCA extended the agreement with the French government until 2030. So if Disney wants to use the Marvel characters, I'm pretty sure they want to use it now and not in 10 to 15 years. In my opinion that's the time frame when Disney is thinking about adding a third park. So I think Marvel will not be used for a third park and I guess it will be used for a subland in WDSP. That's a lot cheaper than building a whole new park.
TWDC is investing heavily in China and in the US and so DLRP will play a minor role for the company.
Philippe Gas, in an interview with UK newspaper The Telegraph, said a few months ago that DLP is looking to open a 3rd park in 2020 and that that 3rd park "could be a Marvel super-heroes theme park".
Quote from: "PirateSteve"Philippe Gas, in an interview with UK newspaper The Telegraph, said a few months ago that DLP is looking to open a 3rd park in 2020 and that that 3rd park "could be a Marvel super-heroes theme park".
Actually PG said that a decision about a third park might not be made until 2020 ;)
Mr Gas said a decision to build the third theme park may not be made until 2020, though it may be brought forward if planned work on the existing Disney Studios Park is completed. The full article is here........http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... tions.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/8055883/Euro-Disney-chief-Philippe-Gas-defends-debt-Disneyland-Paris-working-conditions.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Ahh, thanks for the correction - I was reading it on a French website - lost in translation!
It's silly making predictions like this, but I reckon we'll see the Ratatouille ride open by Autumn 2014.
Quote from: "Alan"It's silly making predictions like this, but I reckon we'll see the Ratatouille ride open by Autumn 2014.
You must be a 'Glass Half Full' kinda person :lol: :thumbs:
That was an interesting read, thanks for the translated version.
I presume the second luxury hotel at the entrance of the park would be the Studios themed hotel rumoured around here before?
That would be an interesting place to stay.
Also, disney may seem more involved in Asia, but lets not forget that we now have the worst Disney park on earth, so soon they'll look at working on Paris. Besides, we already know that Imagineering have a masterplan sorted.
Mr Gas has gone up in my estimation! A new line of credit from TWDC (probably how he got the banks convinced) and a new attraction in WDS!
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YEEESSSS!!!! It's the news we've all wanted to hear. Ratatouille will be built and we'll finally be able to see what else the Imagineers have planned for the park.
This is fantastic, and also nice to be emailed about this as a shareholder :)
Alan. you still predicting a 2014 completion date or do you want to go for an earlier date now?
I'm still predicting a 2014 completion date. Major attractions like this take about 2 years to construct and test, before opening. So if they start work tomorrow, then yeah, 2014 is when it'll open. Perhaps it will be open in Spring 2014, or Summer 2014, but I think Autumn 2014 is a realistic date considering that they haven't started yet.
Now that Ratatouille is sorted, what about that smaller mystery attraction that's supposed to open next year, 2013?
Probably a permanent meet and greet somewhere - they seem popular at the moment.
finally, awesome!
Great news for the park! Would have been such a shame to see those wonderful Ratatouille plans cancelled.
Let's just hope we get the full attraction and not a 'watered down' version.
Can't wait to see what else they have planned for the WDS. That's quite a healthy budget they have to play around with!
I think after opening Ratatouille, the next thing they should do is put a major attraction in Production Courtyard (such as Soarin' with an Iron Man theme) and then remodel the entire area to give it a clear sense of place and time. It should feel like you've stepped back in time to the 1940s or 1930s, rather than the current generic theme.
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I'd love to see a bit of TLC given to the Backlot as well. Maybe a wee shake-up for Armageddon? A better facade for Rock 'n' Roller coaster?
With the building of a Ratatouille restaurant, I'll also be intrigued to see what happens to Rendezvous des Stars.
If construction starts this or next month, I actually think this could be built by the end of 2013. It's not a huge attraction (at least in comparison to other E-tickets), and isn't on the same scale as Mystic Manor in Hong Kong Disneyland. It should just be one Parisian façade, a courtyard in front and a soundstage similar to the one used for Crush Coaster. Then again, I'm not an expert. :P
Does anyone know how long Pooh's Honey Hunt took to build?
Remember they did all the land-clearing over the summer, that might take a good few months off construction.
What type of attraction will it be? A walkthrough?
No Lady Gaga, Ratatouille will not be a walkthrough attraction. It will supposedly be a slow-moving trackless dark ride, similar to Pooh's Hunny Hunt at Tokyo Disneyland. As you can see in this video, the vehicles are not fixed to a track, and so are free to move around independently in seemingly random ways:
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Well this is great news, and shows that Paris hasn't been forgotten.
I see Paris being at the next D23 expo, in 2013.
Can I just ask, whats actually been confirmed investment wise?
Just a couple of memories from when ToT was being built: there were plenty of people ready to say that it would be done on the cheap, that it wouldn't have the Twilight Zone theme, etc, and it all turned out perfectly. With the right vision and budget, and they certainly have this now, WDI will deliver us something superb.
Also, Hollywood Boulevard and Stitch live! appeared quite out of the blue at the end of the ToT project, maybe with a bit of left over money? Right now I am expecting just an amazing attraction, restaurant and themed area; the studios' POTC. But I am hoping for some stocking fillers later on too!
That would be good. I just wonder though... Why now? They never had the urge to do this before.
Quote from: "Alan"No Lady Gaga, Ratatouille will not be a walkthrough attraction. It will supposedly be a slow-moving trackless dark ride, similar to Pooh's Hunny Hunt at Tokyo Disneyland. As you can see in this video, the vehicles are not fixed to a track, and so are free to move around independently in seemingly random ways:
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Ah right :) thanks.
And a new attraction gets the green light!
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What a wonderful day! Thanks ford perfect :)
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To all those who predicted 2014 I tilt my hat to you =D> 8)
So construction will commence 13th April 2011?
Either the image is old from when construction was originally meant to commence or someone's written it wrong.
that was when the permit was originally granted
So is this an image of the original permit or a totally new permit using the original permits date?
Also if they already had a permit to construct Ratatouille since April last year surely this picture doesn't actually confirm that construction is about to start? :?
I am not familiar with French building regulations, however I would guess that following on from the planning permission granted last year the permit granted at that point would then need to be displayed at commencement of works and throughout the duration.
I would be happy to be corrected if anyone has more authoritative knowledge than my guesswork!
Get that Rumour bracket off this topic immediately, and break out the Champagne and Ratatouille! :D :D
this is such good news im looking forward to this ride
Yay!
*starts jumping for joy*
Quote from: "ford prefect"I am not familiar with French building regulations, however I would guess that following on from the planning permission granted last year the permit granted at that point would then need to be displayed at commencement of works and throughout the duration.
I would be happy to be corrected if anyone has more authoritative knowledge than my guesswork!
Mick77 and Mouetto on Disney Central Plaza have just provided a few useful details. It seems posting the permit, as an intention to commence work, begins an appeals period which lasts 2 months 7 days. So provided no-one objects to a Parisian-styled building hidden deep within the resort (apparently no-one objected to RC Racer being seen across the fields?), then they should be good to go sometime in March.
Apparently they could finish clearing the land before then - much of it was cleared after Toy Story Playland was built, but they left quite a few old trees in place in the middle, presumably to prevent opening up some ugly sightlines in case the attraction was shelved.
If we don't see any action on-site before then, hopefully the whole thing will be clarified in the first quarter revenues announcement on 7th February or even the AGM on the 17th.
On that thread over at DCP Jake Sully mentions that the permit is valid for 2 years and construction must start within that time. Do you know if what they have done so far counts as having started and if for some reason it doesn't start before April 2013 how long a new application would take to process?
Presumably, if they've only just posted the construction permit, then they haven't officially started. There was a separate planning permission obtained some years ago to clear a part of the forest for Toy Story Playland and this ride, so they will have only been acting upon that thus far.
An extension to the planning application could be granted if needed... hopefully that won't be needed!
Also interesting: Alain Littaye on Disney and more suggests the project title of "Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity!". So they might have successfully managed to come up with a name that's even harder to say with a French accent than "Crush's Turtle Twister" (try it). A French name would be nicer, anyway. Calamité Cuisine?
"Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity". Now there's a stupid name. They might as well call it "There's A Rat In Mi Kitchen" and bring in Ali Campbell and the rest of UB40 to officially open it :-)
Quote from: "Alan""Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity". Now there's a stupid name. They might as well call it "There's A Rat In Mi Kitchen" and bring in Ali Campbell and the rest of UB40 to officially open it :-)
LOL - tho I quite like the name. i can see it already being referred to as RKC
Can anyone tell me a bit more about the rumoured trackless system? I'm just wondering what its advantages are over amore conventional omnimover type.
The benefit of a trackless system is no VPL :-)
he he, fnar fnar
When they used it in Pooh's Honey Hunt, there was a great bit at the end where all of the cars were moving around each other.
Here's an approximate look at how the latest plans for the Ratatouille show building fit on an aerial photo of the park. This image is starting to crop up on other websites, so I should state that it was composited by me, and you saw it here first :-)
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That explains why some of the trees weren't cut down. They hide the back part of the building from the tram tour. I wonder what they'll put on the back of the costuming building.
Whatever happened to the Paris facade that was supposed to be temporarily going up on the costuming building? Did that stop when they hastily covered up Gusteau? On that point, now it's going ahead, are they going to uncover Gusteau again?
I'm glad this is finally happening (although STILL not 100%!), all of the other resorts are getting new and exciting attractions, and once again Paris was just sitting there looking like it was stuck in the middle of a theme year blizzard!
This is obviously not the official "Kitchen Calamity" logo, but a fan-made recreation I found on Flickr:
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Lol. Nice.
Also, according to someone on Twitter, they've started cutting the trees down on the site.
InsideDLParis on twitter at 3.15pm today:
QuoteAlso I can confirm that clearance has started of the construction site next to Toy Story Playland. Almost time for the construction to begin.
Exciting stuff. The park needs this ride. The only thing that bugs me is the fact that it's a way tucked up the back of Toon Studio, an area thats seen ample development and expansion. Can't wait for the rest of park to get some attention.
They're probably focusing on expanding Toon Studio, rather than redeveloping the rest of the park because:
1. The park needs expanding more than it needs redeveloping.
2. With Toy Story Playland and Ratatouille, they're starting from scratch, which is easier/cheaper than redeveloping an existing facility (e.g. gutting Armageddon and building a new attraction in its place).
3. Toon Studio is home to the Pixar characters, and Disney considers anything Pixar low-risk, which is why they prioritise Pixar attractions.
Quote from: "Meph"That explains why some of the trees weren't cut down. They hide the back part of the building from the tram tour. I wonder what they'll put on the back of the costuming building.
Rumour has it the workshop at the back will relocate to make way for fastpass machines, toilets and possibly a shop, with a new façade in front to complete the square around the fountain.
It would be awesome if DLP could use some of their newly-abundant funding to give the pathway behind Art of Disney a real theme or some reason to exist. With Ratatouille it'll be even more important and yet feel even more like you're stepping out of the park to a self-contained add-on, rather than a true area of the park.
The French title "Désastre en Cuisine" is now being mentioned on DCP, though I'm not sure if that's a real working title or just their translation. I like both titles anyway. Short, snappy and fun!
and so it begins =)
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It's as if they purposely built Parachute Drop to give us a perfect view of construction, haha :lol:.
I saw that too. I can't wait. :D
Is this part of the reason why the Tram Tour was closed: to make room for the construction equipment to get on the site? They've removed the blue fence on the road.
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Meph"That explains why some of the trees weren't cut down. They hide the back part of the building from the tram tour. I wonder what they'll put on the back of the costuming building.
Rumour has it the workshop at the back will relocate to make way for fastpass machines, toilets and possibly a shop, with a new façade in front to complete the square around the fountain.
Interesting. That would be good. Especially with the toilets. The Toon Studio really needs some. XD
Quote from: "|Q|"and so it begins =)
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(i've found the link on DCP)
I can't wait for them to start the construction! :)
According to Disneycentralplaza there is a new construction permit next to the building site that CONFIRMS a restaurant!
They better have a kickass ratatouille dish!
What do you think they will call it? Gustaus or Rataouille?
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I think the rumour is it will be a less formal 'rat' restaurant rather than Gustaus, not sure where I heard that now but it probably makes sense to make sure the space is accessible to all tastes while still being special. If the ride follows some kind of 'shrunk to the size of a rat' idea it could be fun if the restaurant did too don't you think?
I am hoping the restaurant will offer a little more chic table service experience that is desperately lacking in the Studios. DLP has 4 very good to awesome table service restaurants and WDSP has none (the closest being Rendevous de Stars, but I would never rate a buffet very highly). WDSP is desperate for a quality table service offering.
In WDW, after Epcot, DHS has the very best restaurants in their resort (other than the hotels). I would hope WDSP would aspire to as well.
I agree with Davewasbaloo. We leave the park entirely to have lunch and then come back afterwards as we like to have a nice meal at lunch time( we usually visit late November and it's nice to warm up and have a rest with our young children) We don't eat at fast food outlets and so far the only lunch time buffet we would consider is the Agrabah. WDS is desperately needing a table service restaurant and we were hoping for some nice French cuisine as this would fit in with the whole theme.
Without getting too off-topic, the one table service restaurant at Disney's Hollywood Studios that really stands out to me, is the Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater. Disney should bring this restaurant to Paris, but give it a Pixar Cars theme and put it inside the Costuming Building, just opposite Cars Race Rally.
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Funny you should say that, as it was in the original WDSP master plan to bring this restraurant to Paris. DHS has the sublime Brown Derby, the very fun Sci Fi Dine In and 50's Primer Time Diner, and the ok Mama Melrose, as well as the ABC Commisary, many counter service and stands.
WDSP has an ok buffet, two very poor counter service, a rarely open (with minimal capacity) diner and lots of those aweful food vans. On a Studios day, we often go to Annette's or the Steakhouse for lunch, when really we would like to stay in the studios for a full day. I am hoping they will do something where we can have a civilised couple of hours sit down as a family.
I think I suggested this before, but what if Disney moved Annette's Diner out of Disney Village and into the Walt Disney Studios Park? If the Backlot area of the park was re-themed to the 1950s, Annette's would fit in beautifully.
Quote from: "Alan"I think I suggested this before, but what if Disney moved Annette's Diner out of Disney Village and into the Walt Disney Studios Park? If the Backlot area of the park was re-themed to the 1950s, Annette's would fit in beautifully.
Or that's where they could place the Sci-Fi Dine In (minus the cars theme) as the waiters also serve with skates!
I love the Sci-Fi Diner in DHS. It transports you right back in time. But i'm pretty happy with this restaurant. The food in WDS is extremely bad!!! So i'd love to have a rat infested restaurant like at the end of the movie, i'll also accept a stuffy french restaurant. Really any restaurant will do! No more small soggy half cold pizzas. (If you've had them you know which ones I mean)
i would guess it will come down to what makes the most money! The studios do desperately need a good restaurant, we always go into the studios AM and then leave at about 14.00 to eat in Disneyland Park, I like to sit down and be served my meal at least once a day when I am away, not relying on poor quality fast food, god we pay enough for our food at Disney, surley some of the options should be "upmarket"
on DCP user Jack Skellington posted pictures of permits to modify the costuming buildind (including demolition of the tram tour awning)
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That makes it look like the shop may be in the costume building then.
Quote from: "peter"That makes it look like the shop may be in the costume building then.
the voice in the street says it will host toilets and fastpass distribution, and the empty space for a future shop.
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A restaurant? Great idea!
Will there be a gift shop?
So this will have fastpass too?
Quote from: "peter"So this will have fastpass too?
I wouldn't bet against it. They seem to plan them in from the start these days.
On the subject of the restaurant, great news. Glad to hear this new attraction will be the full package. They really do need it to be one of the big guns in the park, so you might as well have all the bells and whistles.
For those unfamiliar with the ride vehicles used in Pooh's Hunny Hunt, here's a great photo of them. It's not much of a stretch to imagine these honey pots (overflowing with honey) rethemed as cooking pots (overflowing with food).
As you can see, there is no track on the floor. The advantage of this is that the vehicles can split up at certain parts in the ride, and regroup later on. So as a guest, you never really know where you're going to go, which adds to the repeatability of the attraction. Also, the vehicles are capable of spinning on the spot, bouncing up and down, and even driving backwards!
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Love the Kitchen Calamity mock-up, Alan! ;D
Quote from: "Alan"For those unfamiliar with the ride vehicles used in Pooh's Hunny Hunt, here's a great photo of them. It's not much of a stretch to imagine these honey pots (overflowing with honey) rethemed as cooking pots (overflowing with food).
As you can see, there is no track on the floor. The advantage of this is that the vehicles can split up at certain parts in the ride, and regroup later on. So as a guest, you never really know where you're going to go, which adds to the repeatability of the attraction. Also, the vehicles are capable of spinning on the spot, bouncing up and down, and even driving backwards!
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Wow, technology has advanced-
a lot.
And that is pretty old tech. When you look at Hunny Hunt, Indy/dinosaur, spiderman/transformers/Dar Kastle, and Harry Potter - DLP is really behind when it comes to state of the art dark ride vehicles.
Right, I'd say the most modern ride system that Disneyland Paris has is the one for the Tower of Terror.
But, compared to Universal, no Disney theme park in the World has any ride system as sophisticated as Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey's. So it's not just Disneyland Paris that's behind!
Quote from: "Alan"For those unfamiliar with the ride vehicles used in Pooh's Hunny Hunt, here's a great photo of them. It's not much of a stretch to imagine these honey pots (overflowing with honey) rethemed as cooking pots (overflowing with food).
As you can see, there is no track on the floor. The advantage of this is that the vehicles can split up at certain parts in the ride, and regroup later on. So as a guest, you never really know where you're going to go, which adds to the repeatability of the attraction. Also, the vehicles are capable of spinning on the spot, bouncing up and down, and even driving backwards!
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Pooh's Hunny Hunt is an amazing ride and different each time you ride it. There also a trackless ride at DisneySea called Auqatopia but being outside it effect is not the same as PHH
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That always looks so right for discoveryland.
I'd be fantastic if it did use the same system as Hunny Hunt, but would it be a huge problem if they ended up using a traditional dark ride mechanism?
Sure it be incredibly disappointing that Paris was once again missing out on new ride tech, but (trying to be devils advocate here) a new attraction is still a new attraction. Providing the theme and story of the attraction work out right I guess I'll be happy either way.
I don't think it matters that much, anyway. Each ride system is different and new ones don't necessarily need to replace the old ones. Typewriters didn't replace pen and paper, and neither will the trackless ride system replace the doom buggies.
I haven't seen how Harry Potter works, though. Is it the same as the Spiderman ride?
Quote from: "peter"That always looks so right for discoveryland.
Well it is in Port Discovery. The retro-futuristic theme is the same. :)
In fact both Port Discovery and Mysterious Island have themes that fit under the umbrella of Discoveryland. Personally, I'd like it if our Discoveryland'd be more like Mysterious Island. But anyway - off topic! :)
@Meph
You haven't seen how the Harry Potter ride system works? Well, imagine a bench with 4 people sat side-by-side, attached to a huge industrial robotic arm that moves along a track!
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Wow! I've never seen anything like that except in concepts! When I first heard about the ride, I thought I read it was just a walk-through attraction! Definitely not! XD
You'd need a massive showbuilding for that!
I've never seen that picture either. I've often wondered exactly how it worked, so thanks Alan. :)
Now that wouldn't exactly work with Ratatouille, but I think it'd work great for either The Incredibles or The Avengers... and there's still plenty of space going at WDS to fit it in.
Definitely something that needs putting on the WDS 'to do' list. ;)
Quote from: "peter"That always looks so right for discoveryland.
it's just a R E A A A L L Y expensive spinner
Quote from: "Hathaway Browne"Now that wouldn't exactly work with Ratatouille, but I think it'd work great for either The Incredibles or The Avengers... and there's still plenty of space going at WDS to fit it in.
Universal has an exclusive 10 years agreement con KUKA (the robotic arm producer) :( but i'm not sure if is just a north america exclusive
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RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 has a track-system like that! :')
Quote from: "|Q|"Quote from: "Hathaway Browne"Now that wouldn't exactly work with Ratatouille, but I think it'd work great for either The Incredibles or The Avengers... and there's still plenty of space going at WDS to fit it in.
Universal has an exclusive 10 years agreement con KUKA (the robotic arm producer) :( but i'm not sure if is just a north america exclusive
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Are you sure on that? I think Disney opened a robotic arm attraction at EPCOT's Innovention?
I highly doubt we will se such advanced technologie at Disneyland Paris in the near future. I also wouldn't be surprised if Disney cut the budget for the new Ratatouille ride technology.
The only Disney Resort that would use such technologies would be TDR and maybe the new Avatar Land and that's only because of James Cameron.
There are kuka ARM rides in Futurascope in France as well as Legoland California. The exclusivity for universal is the ability to put a kuka ARM on a track vehicle. Disney were given first refusal for this tech, and they passed it up (just like the Spiderman tech)
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"There are kuka ARM rides in Futurascope in France as well as Legoland California. The exclusivity for universal is the ability to put a kuka ARM on a track vehicle. Disney were given first refusal for this tech, and they passed it up (just like the Spiderman tech)
Why am I not surprised by that?
EPCOT The Sum of All Thrills (and i think the robotic arms at Futurscope and Legoland) were bought before the Universal agreement. As i've understood it, the agreement states that in this kind of industry they're goin to sell robotic arms only to Universal (i don't think thay can sell arms to someone, and tell them not to use them in a certain way). I've also read that Disney actually has more arms than the one(s) used in EPCOT (i think one is used in the NEMO subs ride in DL to move some character, but not really sure about it). I also think that KUKA is not the only producer of this kind of technology.
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Ok, the other KUKA arm thing used by Disney is in EPCOT too, on the Seas with Nemo and friends, and moves an angler fish.
For what i've read, yes actually the agreement is about the full ride mechanism, that's the arm-on-a-track. But that kind of technology is found in any big manufactory company (mostly cars assembling factories), so i don't think is a patent exclusive to KUKA. And i find difficult to think that the patent is *actually* about putting people sitting at the end of the arm, lol. But just speculating here. And it's getting pretty OT.
Of course the ride technology itself doesn't mean much if the attraction theme and story aren't right.
I think I'd rather have them invest in making it a better narrative than having a whizz-bang ride system.
Interesting to see how Harry Potter uses those giant 180-degree projection domes, just like we apparently saw being constructed/tested for Ratatouille a long time ago:
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I'm sure this ride will have plenty of whizz-bang technology behind it. It'll actually be Disney's first ride of this kind, so that's pretty big. Who'd have thought it'd be Walt Disney Studios to get it?
Interesting. So I presume that each ride vehicle in Ratatouille will have its moment in one of these domes? I suppose the only area I can think of off the top of my head like it would be the Music Room in the Mansion, where you loop around Madam Leota, only this time we'd look outwards instead of in.
Sounds tricky, but where there's a WDI there's a way. ;)
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Okay, how does that ride work?
In short. Those projection domes you see are on a carousel. There are lots of domes (like half a tennis ball) with their insides facing away from the centre of the circle, and they all slowly rotate together. And there are three of these carousels in the Forbidden Journey ride.
So, at certain points in the ride, your flying bench comes near to a carousel, and actually inserts itself inside one of the domes. Then the bench and the carousel move together, as one, so that you're totally unaware that the carousel/dome is moving. So to the riders on the bench, it feels like you've stopped, and for 30 seconds you've got your own private simulator.
^Woah I would never have expected that. Very clever piece of kit they've got there then.
So is it expected that 'Kitchen Calamity' will have some variant of this? Plenty of possibilities if that's the case.
A car could enter a dome, and while riders are distracted, the dome rotates to let the car out into one of a few different show scenes. Maybe one takes you to Skinner's office, another towards the main dinging room and perhaps even one where you are in the cold storage room. 8)
That way you get a different experience each time.
I actually don't think our Ratatouille ride will have anything like these domes-on-a-carousel that the Forbidden Journey has. That's far too complicated and elaborate for Disneyland Paris.
To unravel the mysteries of Ratatouille, we should really look at Pooh's Hunny Hunt. There's one particular scene in the ride that's interesting. From Wikipedia:
QuoteThe honey pots then enter a dark room with three screens surrounded by trees. A swarm of bees flies through all three before Tigger comes in and starts singing and bouncing. The entire room, the trees, and the honey pots then begin to bounce with Tigger as he bounces from screen to screen. He then jumps up into one of the trees and the swarm of bees reemerges. The honey pots then go backwards down a hallway filled with branches. Tigger is seen clinging to one with a beehive stuck to his head.
What if instead of three screens, you were surrounded by one large dome? So, your group of three kitchen pots come to a halt in one room, in which you're surrounded by one large hemispherical projection screen. A 25-second video sequence plays out on the screen, and then all three pots leave the room.
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^They could then all leave in separate directions. Maybe have one go under the ovens (I'm thinking the Test Track heat and cold effects here).
BTW, I've never seen Pooh's Hunny Hunt, so I did a quick search on YouTube and found this (sorry if its been posted in the thread before):
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You can see the 3 screen sequence from 1:10 and on their second ride at 4:45 (from this angle you can see the bounce effect more).
I'm impressed, its like a good old fashioned dark ride but with modern technology. If the Ratatouille attraction is going to emulate it I think we should have a pretty decent attraction.
I wonder if the interior of our Ratatouile restaurant will look a bit like this? It's a restaurant inside the Disney Dream cruise ship.
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I like the look of Pooh's Honey Hunt, it's my kinda ride. If Ratatouille turns out to be anything like it i'll be happy.
Quote from: "Alan"I wonder if the interior of our Ratatouile restaurant will look a bit like this? It's a restaurant inside the Disney Dream cruise ship.
From what I heard they want a more "fun" theme with it based on Rémy's rat restaurant from the end of the film. As I mentioned on DLRP Today recently, there are plenty of stuffy Parisian restaurants a short RER ride away. There'd be no novelty in something like that here.
^I can see them having a lot of fun with all the props. Giant bottle caps and tables with oversized paper parasols you normally get in cocktails.
And I think its safe to say we know at least one item on the menu, after all what would Remy's restaurant be without ratatouille? ;)
I thought the actual restaurant at the end of the film looked similar to an average French restaurant? Do we have any screenshots?
Remy's rat restaurant at the end of the film is called "La Ratatouille". Here's a screenshot of the sign:
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But one thing doesn't make sense. If the exterior of the ride/restaurant is supposed to represent real full-size Paris, then won't it be a bit jarring if you walk through the door of La Ratatouille and you're instantly "shrunk down" to the size of a rat?
So hold on - the exterior of the show building clearly depicts Gusteau's restaurant - why would the interior of the restaurant be La Ratatouille?
Well, perhaps it's brought together by the ride being set within Gusteau's, shrunk down, then you exit the ride in to the boutique and restaurant areas. Similar (ish) to POTC and the Blue Lagoon and the boutique.
Are you big? Are you small? Am I seeing things, am I crazy? Mark my words, ze whole sing is 'ighly suspect! :D
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I don't think the human restaurant at the end of the film had a name, only 'Bistro' on the awning, so it's easy to call both restaurants La Ratouille.
Other option is to have the attraction's restaurant on the first floor, just like the film version, that way it can be the rodent version. And maybe Gusteau's facade will be for the ride and the restaurant will be housed with a differant frontage.
If it was done that way, maybe it could look down on a part of the ride too :)
Quote from: "Hathaway Browne"Other option is to have the attraction's restaurant on the first floor, just like the film version, that way it can be the rodent version. And maybe Gusteau's facade will be for the ride and the restaurant will be housed with a differant frontage.
Quote from: "DopeyDad"If it was done that way, maybe it could look down on a part of the ride too :)
This is pretty much what the current rumours suggest. The restaurant will be on the first floor ("similar to Walt's"), above the queue line in that front portion of the building, and that it might actually overlook the queue.
Quote from: "Alan"But one thing doesn't make sense. If the exterior of the ride/restaurant is supposed to represent real full-size Paris, then won't it be a bit jarring if you walk through the door of La Ratatouille and you're instantly "shrunk down" to the size of a rat?
This is the one bit of the plan I can't quite picture yet either. Presumably the ride is going to be oversized too, so there needs to be a moment there where everything suddenly becomes big. I doubt they'll go for any Mighty Microscope-style technical explanation (Rémy is also a master scientist?), so maybe it'll just be a case of the scale gradually changing as you climb the stairs, or walk down a hallway.
One important point though is that "Le Ratatouille" at the end of the film isn't the same location as Gusteau's (which closed down), is it? We don't yet know what kind of liberties they'll take with the story and setting. I very much doubt it'll be a literal reproduction or retelling of the film's locations and plot. The concept art already looks quite different to the film, and although there's a "Gusteau's" sign on the rooftops, is it actually on top of one of the façades in the foreground, or just somewhere in the distance..?
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It looks to me like they want to make the ride its own entity, its own adventure.
To clarify:
QuoteDespite the positive review, Gusteau's is closed down due to the rodent infestation, and Anton loses credibility as a critic. However, Anton becomes an investor and eagerly helps fund a popular new bistro, "La Ratatouille", created by Linguini, Remy and Colette, featuring a kitchen designed for Remy to work in, and dining areas for both humans and rats alike.
Here are some screenshots of "La Ratatouille" bistro (a small restaurant serving moderately priced simple meals in a modest setting). Here's the exterior:
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Here's the interior (for humans):
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And here's the miniature restaurant for rats, upstairs:
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^Thanks for those. Looking at the human restaurant picture I immediately thought it'd be an ideal setting for the ubiquitous gift shop.
Then again, that'd be a little odd, maybe it could be just the foyer area for the upstairs restaurant, just like Walt's.
That'd actually be quite nice, if we had the rat restaurant. I was expecting a dank room in between the floor boards. The leaves and the fairy lights would have a nice atmosphere.
Quote from: "Anthony"One important point though is that "Le Ratatouille" at the end of the film isn't the same location as Gusteau's (which closed down), is it? We don't yet know what kind of liberties they'll take with the story and setting. I very much doubt it'll be a literal reproduction or retelling of the film's locations and plot. The concept art already looks quite different to the film, and although there's a "Gusteau's" sign on the rooftops, is it actually on top of one of the façades in the foreground, or just somewhere in the distance..?
It looks to me like they want to make the ride its own entity, its own adventure.
That's what I'm wondering as well. As you mentioned the concept art looks different compared to the movie. When designing Carsland, WDI altered some buildings of Radiator Springs. Pixar then changed the buildings in the second Cars movie as well so that there is a consistency. I hope the same effort is put into Ratatouille as well, but this time WDI should try to copy the movie and not design something new.
Uhm, i wonder, if the restaurant will be rat sized, how they're goin to put there that cool Chef Remy?
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I would prefer a regular size restaurant and not a rat sized one.
Last year Disney Enterprises registered "La Ratatouille" in France as a restaurant.
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So I guess we will get the restaurant at the end of the movie, although it's the wrong location. Maybe WDI doesn't care a lot and the whole building will be a mixture of several things of the movie. The concept art shows the Gusteau logo on top of the building, but the restaurant will be called "La Ratatouille". I wouldn't be surprised, since they also didn't care about Andy's backyard being in WDSP or a Toy Story ride inside Discoveryland.
well, "la ratatouille" restaurant at the end of the movie has a human sized area and a rat sized one. and i really don't understand this "wrong location" thing. in the concept art the "gusteau" sign is clearly in the foreground, just like the tour eifelle at epcot's france pavillion.
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For me it seems that the building with the Gusteaus logo is the one where the restaurant is located in the movie. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Disney is putting the La Ratatouille restaurant in the Gusteau building.
Thanks for the screenshots from the film, Alan. The rats' restaurant certainly looks far more inviting!
Quote from: "dagobert"Maybe WDI doesn't care a lot and the whole building will be a mixture of several things of the movie. The concept art shows the Gusteau logo on top of the building, but the restaurant will be called "La Ratatouille". I wouldn't be surprised, since they also didn't care about Andy's backyard being in WDSP or a Toy Story ride inside Discoveryland.
Yes, like I said I doubt they'll go for a literal reproduction of the movie. It looks like a bit of a "mélange". It's still hard to tell whether Gusteau's is meant to be one of the façades, but I'd guess not. The sign could just be part of the rooftops. Perhaps more likely they'll use a little artistic licence to create a new Parisian square, where Linguine's "Le Ratatouille" restaurant is located, and come up with a new "Kitchen Calamity" adventure.
I don't think that's a failing of Imagineering, by the way. Far from it - I'd much prefer they injected some imagination into these character-based rides rather than merely recreating the entire world pixel-for-pixel. It needs to be its own attraction, its own story. I don't think this one will just be reliving exactly what you've already seen on a cinema screen.
Quote from: "Anthony"I don't think that's a failing of Imagineering, by the way. Far from it - I'd much prefer they injected some imagination into these character-based rides rather than merely recreating the entire world pixel-for-pixel. It needs to be its own attraction, its own story. I don't think this one will just be reliving exactly what you've already seen on a cinema screen.
Re-creating the movie is pretty hard, especially it is set in a huge city. It wouldn't be possible for WDI to get the locations right. I don't mind putting some imagination into the project, but since Disney is using the actual name of the restaurant in the movie, I just think that the Gusteau logo shouldn't be on the building.
I just looked at the concept art again and it seems I'm wrong on the Gusteau building. None of the facades resembles the restaurant in the movie. I guess the logo is just used in the painting.
From where did you get the informations that the restaurant is on the second floor? The building looks huge, what's going to be in the ground floor?
With all this talk of Ratatouille, do we all own the film? If you haven't bought it yet, go get it on DVD or Blu-ray or from iTunes. I'd forgotten how excellent it is. Remy is so cute and the script is so sharp. If Disney are going to spend €150 million on this thing, the least we can all do is buy the film :-)
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Where about will this building be located within the WDS park?
To the right of Toy Story Playland. :)
I'm a bit vague on the location as Playland was still a dream (or should that be nightmare? ;) ) when I last went. I see they've started work on the Costuming Building, so question is has there been any news on where the Tram route will go once the whole things finished? Or will it remain unaffected?
This is where Ratatouille is going. Between the Dinotopia set and the Costuming Building:
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Oh wow. Thanks for that.
So the Tram stays the same. Hmm. oh well. I hope they put something to look at on those walls that are close to the road. Even if its just some vintage painted art nouveau posters. You know the kind, Perrier and Orangina - just not them, perhaps one for Gusteau's, another for Le Ratatouille.
The path leading to the Rat between TSPL and the costuming building looks rather small, or is that just due to the plan.
Hi Hathaway Browne
Maybe this photo taken last week from Parachute drop may help!
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^Thanks for that. Certainly helps put it all in perspective.
Looks like the Parachutes are going to be quite popular during construction, and even more so once the area is completed and opened. Especially at night. :)
I still think that the Tram route will eventually need relocating. That is presuming they can expand (behind the Dinotopia 'set'), to the left of the "Remyland" - or is that the fabled protected woodland?
It'll probably be ages until we see anything actually being built. At the foundation stage, it's like they're wasting months of time making sand castles (soil castles?) and then the wall's will go up in a few months. They always seem to do everything pre-fabricated.
There was certainly lots of work happening at the site yesterday when I was there. Lots of diggers also working behind RC Racer, but I couldn't see what they were doing for the bamboo.
Whilst in the park last week, I was wandering down the Parisian street, when I overheard a Cast Member talking to a small group of guests about the Ratatoiulle ride, mainly about the covered up Gusteau, Remy on the benches and the chef-hats on the posts. However he pointed out another one I don't think has been mentioned here: a stylised Remy hidden in the Art Nouveau swirls of the railings:
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Took a minute to see it, then... Amazing, you made my day! (It's been a slow day)
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Took me longer than a minute although im not 100% sure i see it still!
seen it, loving the detail here
The large swirl on the left forms his tail - the first "leaf" on the top line is his ear, with the second half-leaf being his eye. The curve then forms his snout, with a third leaf forming his nose. :)
And no bother Anthony! Glad to be of service! :thumbs:
More that 2 weeks without new parachute drops pics of the working area. I need a fix *_*
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I'm going in March - I'll be sure to take a few!
Quote from: "Columbiad"Whilst in the park last week, I was wandering down the Parisian street, when I overheard a Cast Member talking to a small group of guests about the Ratatoiulle ride, mainly about the covered up Gusteau, Remy on the benches and the chef-hats on the posts. However he pointed out another one I don't think has been mentioned here: a stylised Remy hidden in the Art Nouveau swirls of the railings:
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WOW! Took me a minute to find that!
Thank you for posting!
haha! Wow, that is great!!! It took me some time too before i saw it.
These kind of details make me love Disney even more. :D
With this post i also want to see hi again to everyone!! I have been a very active member on several discussionboards for many years, but i havent been active for the last few years on here. I did follow all the news about Disney(land) of course, but just havent been posting for a while. i hope i will enjoy it again as much as i did some time ago! :minnie:
Quote from: "Jorien"With this post i also want to see hi again to everyone!! I have been a very active member on several discussionboards for many years, but i havent been active for the last few years on here. I did follow all the news about Disney(land) of course, but just havent been posting for a while. i hope i will enjoy it again as much as i did some time ago! :minnie:
Welcome back, Jorien! Great to see you here! :mrgreen:
New pic shot on sunday, from user EDP1992 on Disney Central Plaza //http://www.disneycentralplaza.com/t26832p160-attraction-et-restaurant-ratatouille-au-parc-walt-disney-studios-2014
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Not much to see yet :(
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What do you mean "not much to see"? They appear to have built some kind of temple to a dragon god! But what that's got to do with rats that can cook I have no idea...
thats the dinotopia set on the tram tour ;-)
Quote from: "Magic M"What do you mean "not much to see"? They appear to have built some kind of temple to a dragon god! But what that's got to do with rats that can cook I have no idea...
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News: Brad Bird tweets on the Ratatouille dark ride: "It's going to be really cool." (//http://www.dlrptoday.com/2012/03/12/brad-bird-tweets-on-the-ratatouille-dark-ride-its-going-to-be-really-cool/)
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Nice one, Alan. ;)
Bravo, Alan! :D That's fantastic.
Got to say though - the title of this forum thread changing got me excited even more!
Quote from: "Columbiad"Got to say though - the title of this forum thread changing got me excited even more!
Haha. :) It seemed a bit absurd to insist it's still a rumour, and the restaurant is important too!
Will Ratatouille have a fast pass?
Quote from: "lilfencer09"Will Ratatouille have a fast pass?
Rumours suggest yes, it will!
Quote from: "Columbiad"Whilst in the park last week, I was wandering down the Parisian street, when I overheard a Cast Member talking to a small group of guests about the Ratatoiulle ride, mainly about the covered up Gusteau, Remy on the benches and the chef-hats on the posts. However he pointed out another one I don't think has been mentioned here: a stylised Remy hidden in the Art Nouveau swirls of the railings:
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This is so great! amazing detail, it makes it so special
And here comes the crane!
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Its like watching the Tower get built again! I can't wait! :D
Probably half my pictures from the past few days are of the crane! Here are some from my phone on Wednesday evening that I posted to @DLRPToday (//http://twitter.com/DLRPToday) on Twitter:
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There are some better ones from today to come. It's very very visible from Frontierland - particularly from Fort Comstock and when stood in front of Phantom Manor.
Yay! That's so exciting to see, normally I'd be pretty annoyed by a huge crane looming over the park but in this case I think I'll make an exception. Looking forward to watching the progress over the next few years.
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Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity! Construction - The Movie
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Well, looks like Ratatoiulle won't be exclusive for long! The concept art of the exterior of the resteraunt is shown in this video regarding Disney's relationship with Asia, and includes the art with new work showing Shanghai Disneyland. Not quite sure where it'll fit with the park though...
The video (skip to 5.40):
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Looks like the concept art of the restaurant made for the film. Perhaps they'll have just the restaurant itself there somewhere, as part of the entrance way or downtown area? I can't imagine the ride itself being added to Shanghai. The only obvious place to rebuild it would be Epcot, but then would they want to represent France with a dark ride about rats in a kitchen?
Meanwhile, looks like I filmed that video just in time:
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Though I think this is for nothing more exciting than repaving the street (already!), because apparently they weren't happy with the finish.
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Though I think this is for nothing more exciting than repaving the street (already!), because apparently they weren't happy with the finish.
I think they're covering the street with wooden planks, se they won't ruin it.
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I'm pretty confused by shanghai Disneyland if I'm honest. It's as if they are trying to fit every idea into the one park, very strange.
It will be an attraction intence as Crush's Coaster, or it will be more like Peter Pan's Flight, more emotional than thrilling?
Quote from: "peter"I'm pretty confused by shanghai Disneyland if I'm honest. It's as if they are trying to fit every idea into the one park, very strange.
I think the park willlook amazing and will feature many new rides with new technology. WDI will not repeat the mistakes they have done in Hong Kong. As for Ratatouille, I think it will be a restaurant in the Disney themed shopping and dining district.
Quote from: "Simba 27"It will be an attraction intence as Crush's Coaster, or it will be more like Peter Pan's Flight, more emotional than thrilling?
It will be a dark ride based on Tokyo's Winnie Pooh trackless ride system and it will not be a coaster ride like Crush. So it will not be thrilling or intense. Ratatouille is going to be a desperately needed family dark ride.
Quote from: "dagobert"It will be a dark ride based on Tokyo's Winnie Pooh trackless ride system and it will not be a coaster ride like Crush. So it will not be thrilling or intense. Ratatouille is going to be a desperately needed family dark ride.
In these past years, I never understood the word trackless.... I can't immagine a trackless dark ride; how it works the one in Tokyo?
The ride vehicles follows a conductor loop embedded in the floor. Imagine a magnet following a metal wire on the ground, like that. That way it looks like the motion is free, and with additional electronics the vehicles can follow different ways through the rooms.
Quote from: "sven"The ride vehicles follows a conductor loop embedded in the floor. Imagine a magnet following a metal wire on the ground, like that. That way it looks like the motion is free, and with additional electronics the vehicles can follow different ways through the rooms.
For what i get from Wikipedia, in the floor there is some king of grid, that let know a central computer where all the vehicles are in each moment. then, remotely, the computer controls all the vehicles movement, generating different coreogrphies each time.
Quote from: "Wikipiedia"Track
This 'trackless' ride system is achieved not by GPS, as widely rumored, but by a custom LPS (local positioning system). The patented system works by directional data being relayed from a master control computer directly to each individual honey pot car through a complicated matrix embedded within the actual floor tiles. Every few seconds, the master computer generates a random path and 'steers' the honey pot in real-time, so as the cars roll through the ride the vehicles are, in fact, being told where to go. Because this system is in real-time, they can maneuver accordingly in just fractions of a second. This also allows for spontaneous yet synchronized 'honey pot choreography' with groups of honey pots (as many as 8 in a single show scene) appearing to 'dance' with the others, often timed with 'beats' in the music. Due to limitless variations possible, each journey through the attraction is unique.
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Thanks for the answers; so it may be like Pinocchio's ride, without the annoying bumps, and each scene will be different every time, with differents props/characters that will came out randomly? This will be the second attraction in the world after Pooh's Hunny Hunt, with this technology?
I saw some videos of Pooh's Hunny Hunt (pity that there isn't a specific thread for this attraction in the International section), and it is really amazing! But I didn't spotted too many differents paths of the pots, the storyline is always the same: intro-Tiger-Pooh's Nightmare-End.
And finally, sorry if it is a stupid question, but the space between the costume building and Studio Tram Tour's street, isn't a bit too small? Maybe the ride will be shorter than the Tokyo one (and of course, with Remy instead of Pooh).
Quote from: "Simba 27"And finally, sorry if it is a stupid question, but the space between the costume building and Studio Tram Tour's street, isn't a bit too small? Maybe the ride will be shorter than the Tokyo one (and of course, with Remy instead of Pooh).
In short, no! Ratatouille is quite a bit
bigger than Pooh's Hunny Hunt!
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I'm having to check and check again that I've got that image right, because I never realised there was such a difference in size. That's all the more intriguing when you think that Ratatouille is supposed to use mainly 3D projection effects, rather than physical sets like Hunny Hunt.
It's also interesting to see how much bigger the showbuilding has grown since the original outline plan (when it was meant to be almost the same size as Hunny Hunt):
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The final building is going to be like "it's a small world" with a restaurant stuck on the front (the two are, weirdly, almost identical in width):
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Rémy doesn't do small.
QuoteWell, looks like Ratatoiulle won't be exclusive for long! The concept art of the exterior of the resteraunt is shown in this video regarding Disney's relationship with Asia, and includes the art with new work showing Shanghai Disneyland.
I don't see Ratatouille making it to Shanghai. Outside of Paris with the exception of one of the Cruise Line ships. The character is rarely seen or used. Disney are being secretive on whats being planned for its new park to prevent rival domestic themeparks from stealing the ideas. Copyright laws don't really exist in China. And it only showed the art when discussing dining. Its possible a fine dining French inspired Restaurant is being planned for one of the Hotels. I would assume with perhaps a couple of exceptions most of the parks dining experiences will be catered to the local audience like its the case in Hong Kong Disneyland. So a Rat themed Restaurant wouldn't make much sense. Epecially if it was serving dim sum.
Thanks Anthony!! When I saw the pictures of the ground-breaking, it seemed to me that the area was a bit small; I was wrong, it will be the It's a Small World ride of the Walt Disney Studios Park.
Thanks again!!
Anthony has really underlined the scale of this project. The budget is HUGE and so it is going to have to be incredible to be worth a company with enormous debt spending 150 million on. This cannot be compared to Pinocchio or little Mermaid, with all that expenditure. We have got to be thinking on the level of Spiderman or Transformers.
There is plenty of space but how much of that will be allocated to the ride itself? If there will be a restaurant attached then it will probably require a big kitchen facility and dining area, thus decreasing the total size of the ride show building.
And I think there were rumours that it would have a second floor as well. It'll be huge!
Quote from: "Josh"And I think there were rumours that it would have a second floor as well. It'll be huge!
I think the only rumour there was for the restaurant to be above the queue line, although that does still free up more space for the ride.
Quote from: "alka1"There is plenty of space but how much of that will be allocated to the ride itself? If there will be a restaurant attached then it will probably require a big kitchen facility and dining area, thus decreasing the total size of the ride show building.
Yes, Spider-Man overlaps quite a bit and so the Small World comparison is probably the best. There we've got the whole Small World building (which includes its backstage/maintenance area) plus a huge chunk still left at the front for the restaurant and queue.
This also makes me wonder whether the ride vehicles themselves could be larger. Pooh's Hunny Hunt has those measly 4-seater honey pots whereas Spider-Man has big 12-seater seater vehicles.
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Given the size of the showbuilding, not to mention the size of the investment, the likely popularity and the recent talk from Philippe Gas about adding capacity, I really hope this means we'll get something a least slightly bigger than honey pots if not as big as Spider-Man's "scoop" vehicles (there I begin to wonder about the viability of trackless running, if that's still something we're expecting)...
I think there is a chance of larger vehicles being used, especially trackless ones. Antarctica at SeaWorld appears to use trackless Spidey style vehicles (which also appear to be a hybrid of Luigi's Flying Tires around the base?) which could also be used for the Rat?
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I'm intruiged to see more details on this, sadly I get the impression Paris may be remaining tight lipped, despite the Dreams backstage videos we got!
Quote from: "Scissorsboi"I think there is a chance of larger vehicles being used, especially trackless ones. Antarctica at SeaWorld appears to use trackless Spidey style vehicles (which also appear to be a hybrid of Luigi's Flying Tires around the base?) which could also be used for the Rat?
Ooh great find, that's exactly what I had in mind. And good to see a variation on the capacity for what could be a trackless ride. Some of the blurb on it says: "A 'first-of-its-kind' family adventure ride that utilizes new technology for an experience that can change from visit to visit. Designers also revealed that guests will be able to choose the level of thrill they experience on the ride. Each car seats eight guests."
More here: http://parkrumors.com/sea-worlds-penguin-ride/ (http://parkrumors.com/sea-worlds-penguin-ride/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Yes, what if Ratatouille isn't trackless at all? Here we are, all expecting a trackless dark ride like Pooh's Hunny Hunt, but it might actually be a more traditional ride on a track.
Quote from: "Alan"Yes, what if Ratatouille isn't trackless at all? Here we are, all expecting a trackless dark ride like Pooh's Hunny Hunt, but it might actually be a more traditional ride on a track.
With all that expenditure its going to be pretty special, and with the trackless technology being used for Mystic Manor I would be shocked if we get a track. How else could you re-create the motion of a rat? They don't want to go in straight lines!
ScreamScape has this video up on its site today. I'm not sure if its official. I haven't seen it before so apologies if its already been posted. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqz761 ... s_creation (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqz761_ratatouille-la-nouvelle-attraction-de-disneyland-paris_creation%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Haha, a very well done video! A fake, I'm sure, but at least today we got (I think) the first official confirmation of Ratatouille from Disney, with Phillipe Gas calling it an "open secret."
Information was also given regarding the restaurant, with it's future menu being compares to Paris's "L'entrecote". Gldc posted more information here:
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I wonder what they would choose. They obviously won't want a typical French meal. Maybe it'll be something where you choose the flavourings that you want on it.
Sounds interesting. For the french this kind of restaurants isn´t something new. There are many restaurants where they sell every day another menu (normaly around 4 courses). Something like the soup of the day, a choice of 3 diffrent starters, a choice of 3 diffrent main dishes and a choice of 3 diffrent desserts - changing every day. That means, that the chef has to go every morning to the market and after a look of what he get today, he makes the menu.
Personally I love that kind of restaurants and I had a great meal years ago at paris - best of my life - at the restaurant of a french tv chef. She did the menu every day totally new. I say you, such restaurants are a great dining experience.
I get the feeling this is not exactly what they are talking about Reibi. I think what he is implying is that there is NO choice in the menu apart from how well you like your meat cooked. So everyone has the same starter, main and dessert. I have been to restaurants like this in Spain and you basically get given what the chef has chosen that day - no choice. You are either going to eat it or leave it kind of thing.
I would give it a try :D But I love special food things. Don´t know about the normal disney family (with 3 children, two of them adopted)
Quote from: "Riebi"Personally I love that kind of restaurants and I had a great meal years ago at paris - best of my life - at the restaurant of a french tv chef. She did the menu every day totally new. I say you, such restaurants are a great dining experience.
When I've been with my parents to Paris, we went to a similar restaurant. The food was fantastic and there were only two options on the menu. I can't remember the name of the restaurant, but I think it was near Gare Du Nord, but I'm not sure.
As for the Rat-Restaurant I hope they think about the vegetarians as well. I know that's not Disney's strength in Paris, but it would ba great for me.
Come they have to do Ratatouille in the restaurant. :thumbs:
Quote from: "dlpfan1992"Come they have to do Ratatouille in the restaurant. :thumbs:
Totally Agree! :thumbs: I think they will do something ey....we will have to wait and see 8)
New pictures of the works from DisneyGazette. First concrete has been poured =) But, didn't they put any foundation?
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I can't wait until it's further along. :)
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Any new pic?
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This is the latest pic I found. It is from themeparkguy.com construction board.A user named Tloz posted it.
It seems as if the ground construction is going fine (I wandered about the lack of a foundation too!) it seemed like they are getting ready to fill the thing with concret - I would expect upwards building to start during the next couple of months...
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They should put in a more permanent, themed construction wall for the barrel of monkeys (maybe a lid for the barrel??), because this sight is not that "Disney":
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Here's a picture I took past weekend of the Ratatouille cranes, but it looks like my wide-angle lens captured more than intended. ;)
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I look forward to seeing the detail of the ride. It should fit in well in WDS. :)
And then, it started to get vertical =)
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Hopefully they want to get the main structure up before the cold weather comes :)
Just in from Disney Central Plaza:
This is a mock up (or prototype) of a Paris street façade, presumably to go in front of the Imaginations building along Ratatouille Road.
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Source: paco123 on Disney Central Plaza
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Strange that they'd have a mock façade on site - why bother? Why can't this be the actual piece that'll be attached to the costume building?
Great to see it though!
They did this for the Hollywood Blvd. sets as well. It's mostly to test the weather conditions on the material, as well as natural lighting, etc.
Just saw this on twitter... looks really good! Had a really nice feel to it. :thumbs:
Quote from: "Kristof"They did this for the Hollywood Blvd. sets as well. It's mostly to test the weather conditions on the material, as well as natural lighting, etc.
I see! Do all the parks do this?
The more I look at it, the more I see how strange the arrangement of windows etc are.
Yes of course. The arrangement of the windows is part of the forced perspective effect.
good old forced perspective... =D>
Hope the transition between the street set and the production courtyard will be better then at art of animation building and hollywood bvd.
The colourscheme looks great. Its difficult to formulate an opinion so early on, but so far the facades seem to be a great mixture between realism and caricature, just like the film. I am curious about the roofs because those will complete the well-known Hausmann style. :thumbs:
Why did they not put this on the Studio Tram Tour it would create a little bit of new things to see even if it was only for a short period of time.
Quote from: "phantom247"Why did they not put this on the Studio Tram Tour
"Here is part of the set where the Disney-Pixar movie Ratatouille was shot... wait a minute..." :)
The point of a prototype is to test how something looks
before guests get to see it. Imagineers need to be able to access this thing easily, make changes, try on different paints and so on. Besides, there would probably be a surprising lot of effort involved in clearing up a spot for a new prop and moving it over.
Speaking of prototypes, I'd love to know how much play testing Disney does in Europe. In the USA, they often set up working prototypes of ride plans, interactive queues etc. in large warehouses.
Quote from: "isani"The point of a prototype is to test how something looks before guests get to see it. Imagineers need to be able to access this thing easily, make changes, try on different paints and so on. Besides, there would probably be a surprising lot of effort involved in clearing up a spot for a new prop and moving it over.
But this is maybe the level of "behind the scenes" guests want to see. Granted it isn't for a new film, but it's for a new ride, and might drum up a bit of excitement. A wee spiel explaining the inspiration Disney's Imagineers take from the world of the movies in creating their theme park environments might work really well, and how set designers also create mock-ups to see how colour looks under certain lights etc etc.
While we're at it, could an attraction at WDS about the works of the Imagineers (perhaps ala Blue Skye Cellar) be a perfect addition? Imagineering is but a stone's throw away from the magic of the movies after all.
Back on topic.
Aaaannnddd we go vertical! Translated from the Disney Radio Club Facebook page:
QuoteThe beams you future restaurant ratatouille area are now standing! Thanks to mat15 for the photo.
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Here is my video with construction site of Ratatouille from "Tram Tours" view on 18.8. 2012 (sorry about quality)...
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QuoteThe ride will have a single ride line, a Fastpass line, and is supposed to have debit equivalent as Space Mountain
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Has there been no progress for 6 weeks?
this is from 2 days ago, thanks to iBuzz on DCP:
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Another picture from Disney Central Plaza by Adri-23 this time:
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There're some new photos on http://disneyandmore.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... pdate.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/wds-ratatouille-ride-update.html%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow) - its got walls!!! :D
I can't wait for this attraction to be completed!
InsideDLParis has released some info about the future attraction on his French twitter account. Here's the translated version :thumbs:
QuoteThe construction of the attraction on the theme of Ratatouille is making great strides, it is time to unveil some details of the project!
The future thematic area will include an attraction, restaurant table, toilet and a street ending in a small square.
Still under study, it is possible that shop is integrated short-term project.
The theme of the area will take its inspiration from the vision of a fantasy cartoon Paris, represented in the film Ratatouille Pixar.
Run along the street facades of buildings in Paris and a beautiful fountain from the movie take place in the center of the square.
Studio 4 building should disappear in a Haussmann architecture unique to true city of Paris.
The restaurant will probably table called "La Ratatouille" and provide a restoration concept ever seen on the Resort.
new toilets will be installed in part of the former workshop of costume design.
Now for the attraction, named "Kitchen Calamity" is far from definitive.
Three queues and heated interior will present at the opening. Stand By queue, a Fast Pass and Single Rider.
Three internal queues are separated from each other and the distribution of 3D glasses will also separately.
Gusteau or rather his ghost will wait for our dear visitors during the course of their queue!
Queue Stand By extension will have a covered outdoor run along the space between the building Studio 4 and the ride.
The Fast Pass distribution terminals will be covered outside and located in the corner of the building on Studio 4 Parisian street.
Reduced to the size of a rat in the queue, visitors embark on the rooftops of Paris in vehicles of six places.
Trackless vehicles have the shape of a stylized rat and will be equipped with a function of rotation about an axis and movement of cylinders.
Visitors will be installed on two rows of three people, or usefulness of the Single Rider line!
Adventure resume outline the history of film, but especially our visitors take in the kitchen or working Linguini!
In a mixture of projection screens and 3D decorations Dark Ride, prepare for total immersion in the heart of the action!
Refrigerator ice, a hot oven and continue cooking on a trolley waiting for you! Among other things ;-)
3D digitally projected on the screens of the ride will be done by Pixar and is likely to be difficult to distinguish from reality!
It remains only to wait quietly until the fiscal year 2014 to join Rémi its extraordinary adventures ...
Good day everyone and continue to dream about the future of tomorrow in the Disney parks around the world!
From InsideDLParisFR (//https://twitter.com/InsideDLParisFR)
How will they be able to hide the Studio 4?
I don't like too much the rat shaped vehicles idea.
It's very good that there will be the Single Rider choice and the FastPass opportunity!!
Quote from: "Simba 27"How will they be able to hide the Studio 4?
They're using a really detailed Parisian street façade. :)
I've posted a 16.2mp photo of the construction site with zoom control on the Photos Magiques blog:
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DLRPWelcome posted a gallery with pictures of the Ratatouille construction site:
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This is one of the images that they posted:
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Can you spot the projection dome? ;)
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Say "hello!" to windows!
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No one has posted an updated for a while here on this topic so I thought I would post this recent video I found that shows construction from yesterday.
Disneyland Paris - Ratatouille Darkride Update - 11th November 2012.
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It amazes me how little interest this topic is generating after the actual construction work began.
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Quote from: "|Q|"It amazes me how little interest this topic is generating after the actual construction work began.
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I'm sure it will be more busy next year once it starts getting more interesting.
Yeah, I think it's quite hard to come up with things to talk about at the moment because although it's awesome how quickly it's going up it'll be a while before things of interest start to appear that are easier to discuss. I think by now (the 51st page) we all know the rough idea of the ride and what we can expect and the majority of us have expressed how much we're looking forward to it. Best not to just keep repeating ourselves. :)
Yeah it's hard to discuss, but more photo updates would be nice. (at least if there are people who are living near by and regularly visiting the parks).
But what keeps me wondering is what they were doing since the end of october. on october 31st the first windows appeared, but not much of progress since then :-?
I've seen lots of construction happening on the inside. The taller part in the back appears to have 3 levels!
Imagine the view you'll have when walking out the Barrel of Monkeys!
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Quote from: "Kristof"I've seen lots of construction happening on the inside. The taller part in the back appears to have 3 levels!
Interesting! I thought it was clear that the ride itself will not have different heights in it. But that keeps me hoping that this was wrong.
And as a matter of fact Djjojo at DCP posted updates with more Windows :)
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My video with Ratatouille construction site on 15.November 2012 from Parachute Drop atraction :
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has anybody any new pics or news for that matter????
If someone may be still interested, DLRPWelcome ah some construxtion update photos.
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More pics here:
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I'm still very interested thanks for posting, looks like it's coming along nicely.
It's really taking shape now, you can start to see what it will look like. :)
Yuppieee!!!
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Wow the rides coming up really quickly.
Wow, even it's still only the bare face of the buliding, it's looking very promising.
Another photo, actually from the same date as above:
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(More to come when I get time...)
The cranes were working really fast even in the cold and wet, with concrete pieces swinging all over. The SIZE of the thing is just immense as you rise up on Parachute Drop - it almost dwarfs even RC Racer! Really not a big fan of that yellow fresque around the top of the building though - a Parisian green/grey would have blended in better surely?
The view through the Barrel of Monkeys tunnel is just perfect. Classic Disney framing. You can already tell that the courtyard will have quite a "Pirates" feel with the restaurant, attraction and toilets (and possible shop). Unlike much of the rest of the park (a shame this still applies ten years on), it feels like it'll be a place I actually want to be...
Great shot Anthony - it's fantastic to see it being developed more every day, like it might actually get completed! I wonder if that yellow part just be the basic structure with more to go over the top to make it fit more with the rest of he building?
Quote from: "PirateSteve"I winder if that yellow part just be the basic structure with more to go over the top to make it fit more with the rest of he building?
I don't think so. The façades still miss the roofs, when they'll be installed the yellow part won't be visible from guest level, but only from the parachute drop.
Mr. Freddy on DCP posted AERIALS!!! Yuppie :P
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It looks as big as Studio 1.
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Oh, and Mouetto on DCP reports that the restaurant will be the biggest in the resort, with a 463 m^2 indoor area, 162 m^2 more of veranda, and seating for 370.
(from the same DCP thread as the pics on the post above)
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Mouetto on DCP posted this wonderful prospect of the facade of the showbuilding/restaurant AND the rethemed costumes building!
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I think it looks quite astonishing =)
Original post, here //http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard.net/t32800p240-attraction-et-restaurant-ratatouille-au-parc-walt-disney-studios-2014 and a big thank you to Mouetto.
Oh, and Merry Christmas!
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Wow! A real treat to see more of the plans and just in time for Christmas! :,)
Given the height of what looks like the main ride building, are we thinking this could be on 2 levels?
According to many sources it WON'T be on 2 levels. But no official word yet.
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What actual rides are on two floors? Is Haunted Manison considered as two floor ride?
Quote from: "perrollaz"What actual rides are on two floors? Is Haunted Manison considered as two floor ride?
Pirates of the Carribbean and Peter Pan are to give just two examples. Haunted mansion definitely takes up at least 2 floors - notice the initial climb and then the drop backwards part-way through and then into the graveyard.
Phantom Manor's stretching room takes you down several metres to a basement show-stage beneath and behind the train tracks.
"Disneyland Forum" posted on facebook a pic showing that works on the former costuming building have started.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=499047033451549&set=a.122634461092810.13816.122613861094870&type=1&theater%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
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And the big crane... is gone!
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Thanx to InsideDLParis on twitter https://twitter.com/insidedlparis (https://twitter.com/insidedlparis%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
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Not followed this for a while, its certainly coming along nicely. Looks like its going to be a lovely part of the park.. probably the nicest part this side of Front Lot. ;)
Definitely a great addition to the studios, from a certain point of view it could be considered as the counterpart of Cars land over at DCA (of course smaller due to the financial situation of the resort): Both feature promising E tickets with a theme that resembles the host state/nation (Cars land resembling Californias route 66 and Ratatouille resembling Paris/France). Where RSR is a new twist on Test Track, Ratatouille will be a new twist on the Pooh's hunny hunt ride system from Tokyo. Both are meant to improve the (struggling) 2nd gates of their respective resorts. Can't wait to finally see what WDI has in store for us in Paris.
Progress looks good :)
Can't wait to see the finished ride & area
I know its the norm for the resort, but it still amazes me that they've not at the very least officially announced this, even if it was just a press release.
Other resorts love to entice people with the prospect of new additions months if not years in advance. I just don't see the point of not acknowledging the construction.
In short... I want concept art!! ;)
Quote from: "Rocketeer"I know its the norm for the resort, but it still amazes me that they've not at the very least officially announced this, even if it was just a press release.
Other resorts love to entice people with the prospect of new additions months if not years in advance. I just don't see the point of not acknowledging the construction.
In short... I want concept art!! ;)
Same here :)
On the other hand, Mr. Gas has unofficially confirmed the ride... So if only he'd 'accidently' leak some concept art aswell everything'd fine with me ;)
I hope in a preview display at next D23.
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Quote from: "Rocketeer"I know its the norm for the resort, but it still amazes me that they've not at the very least officially announced this, even if it was just a press release.
Other resorts love to entice people with the prospect of new additions months if not years in advance. I just don't see the point of not acknowledging the construction.
In short... I want concept art!! ;)
Not officially announcing stuff like this actually makes a lot of sense. in the 2012 and 2013 seasons they have the anniversary / dreams to market to the crowds. Once that's over they can market a major new ride for 2014. This way people keep coming back and they avoid people postponing their stays until something new comes out. Imagine if you knew for sure that Dreams would still be showing in 2014 together with the new ride, a lot of people planning to visit in 2013 might be tempted to postpone their visit until 2014...
Finally an official announcement at the Annual General Meeting! No confirmed opening day yet though.
QuoteDuring the group's annual shareholder meeting on 28 February, Euro Disney Chairman Philippe Gas announced plans for the continued development of Disneyland Paris, with the addition of a new attraction based on the hit Disney/Pixar movie Ratatouille.
'Our new family-focused Ratatouille attraction, which is scheduled to open in 2014, symbolises all of the creativity, innovation and emotion that guests associate with a Disneyland Paris experience,' Gas said.
Set to open in Walt Disney Studios Park, the attraction is part of the group's long-term commitment to investing in high-quality guest experiences. That strategy has been fundamental to strengthening the appeal of the multi-day destination, which achieved record-breaking attendance of 16 million visits in 2012.
This unique attraction will take guests into the world of the Oscar-winning Disney/Pixar movie Ratatouille which tells the tale of Remy – a talented young rat who dreams of becoming a
renowned French chef. Disney storytelling and stat e-of-the-art technology will come together in this romantic, larger-than-life, Parisian experience.
'By developing this new Ratatouille attraction, we continue to ensure our guests can experience their favourite Disney stories in memorable ways that only Disney can provide,' Gas said. 'The theme, which is very français, is a tribute to our capital and the unforgettable characters that make Ratatouille the ideal choice for an attraction that fits perfectly at Disneyland Paris.'
Read the full press release here:
http://corporate.disneylandparis.com/CO (http://corporate.disneylandparis.com/CO%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow) ... cement.pdf
Glad it's finally confirmed, although we are still none the wiser on details..
And still no official concept art :(
Well its a step forward. I still fail to see what they aim to achieve by seemingly ignoring the obvious. I remember that TDO were slow to confirm the Bay Lake Tower at the Contemporary Resort. Its not like you could ignore a huge building like that being constructed!
Any more pictures. :D/
DLRP Welcome has an update:
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These were posted by Max Fan (from DLRP Welcome) posted these on DCP:
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It looks like they're putting on the supports for the façade! =)
It all looks very promising and I'm sure I'm going to like it. No official concept art of the interior yet, but that will make for some surprises nearer the time.
Quote from: "ed-uk"It all looks very promising and I'm sure I'm going to like it. No official concept art of the interior yet, but that will make for some surprises nearer the time.
Yeah, it's kind of cruel from them. I'm kind of salivating O_o°
The last time I used this forum properly (a good few years ago now) Ratatouille was stilla distant rumour- I can't believe how far it's come.
The facade is looking really good and the finish will definitely fit in with little touches in the rest of the park, I think.
Info from RadioDisneyClub.
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Pour la construction de la nouvelle attraction Ratatouille, des tentes ont été installées sur le parking juste derrière Studio Tram Tour ainsi que Toy Story Playland.
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For the construction of the new Ratatouille attraction, tents have been installed in the parking lot behind Studio Tram Tour as well as Toy Story Playland.
Read more here: http://radiodisneyclub.fr/des-tentes-pour-ratatouille/ (http://radiodisneyclub.fr/des-tentes-pour-ratatouille/%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
I've also been keeping track of the progress on the blog here>//http://www.dlparisguide.com/2013/01/ratatouille-ride-construction.html
The moment Philippe Gas finally announced the attraction to a public audience:
[youtube:f5vthuii]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQFTdX2JaOg[/youtube:f5vthuii]
Related article: Video: Disneyland Paris president Philippe Gas officially announces Ratatouille attraction (//http://www.dlrptoday.com/2013/03/18/video-disneyland-paris-president-philippe-gas-officially-announces-ratatouille-attraction/)
Oooh I think I will have to consider factoring in a trip back to see this on completion. Havnt even had our trip THIS year yet, but I like to plan ahead :P
I've just posted on the Photos Magiques blog a new "Panoramagique" which allows full screen zoom control over a construction site panorama photo.
Check it out:
:arrow: http://www.photosmagiques.com/blog/2013/03/26/panoramagique-ratatouille-construction-site/ (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/blog/2013/03/26/panoramagique-ratatouille-construction-site/)
Thank you Anthony, thank you Kristof.
in other news, dlpcastmember on Twitter reports:
"In a cm meeting with mr. Gas, he said ratatouille is likely to be finished around July but will not be opened till aprill for the new season"
(source: https://twitter.com/dlpcastmember (https://twitter.com/dlpcastmember%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow) )
:O
So, is it goin to sit there finished for 9 months?
Finished in July?! I know they need something to advertise for next year, but come on! (Not that they'll actually advertise it either, lets be honest)
Why do I think that the building might be ready in july but than a lot on the inside still must be done.
9 months standing there looks really weird to me so there must be a reason for it .
And InsideDLParis on Twitter reports that the Haussmann roofs structures are goin up
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https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/statu ... to/1/large (https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/status/316963378016960512/photo/1/large%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
More on https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis (https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
It's coming together!
Haven't seen this?
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Source: Mouetto on DCP
I was really hoping that that was an April Fools, but I'm afraid that it might not be....
Lol :D
I come here expecting some news and all I see is LOL. :x
Quote from: "dlpfan1992"I come here expecting some news and all I see is LOL. :x
This is News! New Ride Vehicles! Release Dates! Regular* Construction Updates!
It's all on this thread!
* Not Always...
Quote from: "Lorum"Haven't seen this?
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Source: Mouetto on DCP
Something isn't right....
That isn't the normal Ride Vehicle, I think it's the one for the Disabled. That's why there's a guy in a Wheelchair, and there isn't many seats.
Quote from: "dlpfan1992"I come here expecting some news and all I see is LOL. :x
Chill your beans, man. This is a discussion forum, not a news site. Don't expect news. Expect discussion, opinion and commentary.
Quote from: "Columbiad"Quote from: "dlpfan1992"I come here expecting some news and all I see is LOL. :x
Chill your beans, man. This is a discussion forum, not a news site. Don't expect news. Expect discussion, opinion and commentary.
It's a joke. :lol:
Quote from: "dlpfan1992"Quote from: "Columbiad"Quote from: "dlpfan1992"I come here expecting some news and all I see is LOL. :x
Chill your beans, man. This is a discussion forum, not a news site. Don't expect news. Expect discussion, opinion and commentary.
It's a joke. :lol:
Lol! :lol:
The comment about the ride being "ready by July" I would expect means the facade. Once the outside is complete they can bring in the magic makers to work on the internals.
The Haunted Mansion at Anaheim was completed for several YEARS before the inside ride was finished!
Quote from: "Columbiad"Chill your beans, man. This is a discussion forum, not a news site. Don't expect news. Expect discussion, opinion and commentary.
Well, lately there's been more a lack of discussion than a lack of news around here ^_^"
Quote from: "Magic M"The comment about the ride being "ready by July" I would expect means the facade. Once the outside is complete they can bring in the magic makers to work on the internals.
At first i thought so, but then again he says "the ride". That's pretty specific. And various report on french forum reports that the work inside is well ahed. A giant champagne bottle and a giant fish have already been spotted from backstage inside the building.
Quote from: "Magic M"The Haunted Mansion at Anaheim was completed for several YEARS before the inside ride was finished!
That's a different thing, since the actual Mansion and the showbuilding (just like in Paris) are two separate entities.
On other news, Disneylnd Forum Club posted on their FB page a picture that shows that they started framing for theming the costuming building too.
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Quote from: "|Q|"Well, lately there's been more a lack of discussion than a lack of news around here ^_^"
Ok, maybe it's not too classy to quote myself, but... Q.E.D.
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hi
does anyone have new update pictures ?
grts
Gert
The plans have been revealed for the inside of the attraction and restaurant and more - all annotated and in English - http://www.dlparisguide.com/2013/01/rat ... ction.html (http://www.dlparisguide.com/2013/01/ratatouille-ride-construction.html%22%20target=%22_blank%22%20rel=%22nofollow)
This all seems very promising and I for one cannot wait. I wonder what the restaurant will be, I hope it's not fast food. The Studios could do with a table service restaurant which I would prefer, but I assume it will be more like a buffet If it is that will be Okay with me.
Would be cool ic the restaurant would be exactly like the "Gusteaus" in the movie
What about the dark ride? Will it be like snow white, pinocchio and peter pan?
I still dont get it
I don't claim to get it, but i think the dark ride will be more sophisticated than Pinocchio and Snow White (which look rather old fashioned now, but that only adds to their charm ) with new technology like Mystic Manor at HKDL. That's my impression.
I hope so
Mystic manor really looks fantastic. Would be great if we would get it too
Quote from: "tommicute"Would be cool ic the restaurant would be exactly like the "Gusteaus" in the movie
The Restaurant will be the rat-sized portion of La Ratatouille at the end of the movie. In the floor plans you can see there's a giant salt shaker, a giant menu and a giant candle.
Quote from: "tommicute"What about the dark ride? Will it be like snow white, pinocchio and peter pan?
I still dont get it
It will be a trackless ride (with simulator base), but mostly based on 3d projection (you'll need glasses, sigh)
Glad to see that there's again some life in this thread...
I'm slightly confused, I thought this ride was based on the scene in Gusteaus, where Remy falls through the sky window and rushes to the soup.
Quote from: "DisneyManiac"I'm slightly confused, I thought this ride was based on the scene in Gusteaus, where Remy falls through the sky window and rushes to the soup.
This is the list of scenes from one of the layout leaked:
[spoiler:3mxm01y4]Scene 0: Queue
Scene 1: Load
Scene 2: Rooftops
Scene 3A/3B: Roof to Kitchen
Scene 4: Pantry
Scene 5: Mop&Oven
Scene 6: Dining Room
Scene 7A/7B/7C: In The Walls
Scene 8: Ratatouille Kitchen
Scene 9: Remy Goodbye
Scene 10: Unload
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It has been confirmed that together with the ride and the restaurant, there will be also a shop? I really hope that they will sell some merchandising of the new attraction, and not just Remì and Emile's plushes.
I would LOVE to see a lot of merchandise based on the attraction!!!
Is there a chance this attraction being so popular WDS needs to extend its opening hours? I hate leaving the parc at 7pm in summer when it's still sunny and bright outside!
Any clues as to when in 2014 this ride will be open.
Quote from: "hawian rollercoaster"Any clues as to when in 2014 this ride will be open.
Summer. That's what it is known.
Wouldn't it be great if Gusteau's was the resturant?
Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Wouldn't it be great if Gusteau's was the resturant?
you mean the 5 stars gusteau that we never see in the movie, or the 3 stars failing one we see in the movie that in the end gets closed?
i like that they put the restaurant at the end of the story
Quote from: "|Q|"Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Wouldn't it be great if Gusteau's was the resturant?
you mean the 5 stars gusteau that we never see in the movie, or the 3 stars failing one we see in the movie that in the end gets closed?
i like that they put the restaurant at the end of the story
Um, yeah! That Gusteaus, well if you have looked at the concept art, it shows the Gusteaus sign in the background.
EDIT - It was 5 stars then dropped down to 3, there is only one Gusteaus.
So looking at the plans I can see the restaurant, toilets, queue area and fast pass machines but where is the merchandise store? I'm sure there was talk of a shop, unless that was just early rumors.
Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Um, yeah! That Gusteaus, well if you have looked at the concept art, it shows the Gusteaus sign in the background.
Yes, it looks like it will be on the roofs in the background, like the tour eiffel in epcot's france.
Quote from: "DisneyManiac"EDIT - It was 5 stars then dropped down to 3, there is only one Gusteaus.
Yep, but if you saw the movie you know that despite being the same place, they're two pretty different restaurants. Gusteau's 5 star it's a a temple of cuisine, while skinner's 3 stars it just an exploit of the Gusteau brand name, a "tourists restaurant".
My point being, i totally see why they went for the La Ratatouille instead of Gusteau's
Quote from: "|Q|"Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Quote from: "DisneyManiac"EDIT - It was 5 stars then dropped down to 3, there is only one Gusteaus.
Yep, but if you saw the movie you know that despite being the same place, they're two pretty different restaurants. Gusteau's 5 star it's a a temple of cuisine, while skinner's 3 stars it just an exploit of the Gusteau brand name, a "tourists restaurant".
My point being, i totally see why they went for the La Ratatouille instead of Gusteau's
Oh so Gusteau's is chain of restaurants, I remember the advertising posters in Skinner's Office.
Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Oh so Gusteau's is chain of restaurants, I remember the advertising posters in Skinner's Office.
Nope, it's a line of frozen foods
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Quote from: "|Q|"Quote from: "DisneyManiac"Oh so Gusteau's is chain of restaurants, I remember the advertising posters in Skinner's Office.
Nope, it's a line of frozen foods
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Oh, now I get it!
Wait a mo! There is only one Gusteau's Restaurant, it was a 5 star but degraded to a 4 star after a negative review from Anton Ego, the food critic. Shortly after, Gusteau died of a broken heart which reduced the restaurant to a 3 star. Then Skinner took over and started a line of frozen foods which you mentioned under the image of Gusteau.
It's awhile since I saw the film, but didn't Colette, Linguini and Remy open their own cafe called La Ratatouille at the end of the film, couldn't the attraction restaurant be based on that ?
It seems the restaurant wont be based on Gasteau's restaurant.
Quote from: "ed-uk"It's awhile since I saw the film, but didn't Colette, Linguini and Remy open their own cafe called La Ratatouille at the end of the film, couldn't the attraction restaurant be based on that ?
This. But from the blueprints it will be the rat part of the restaurant. With giants props and stuff, like the ride.
Quote from: "|Q|"Quote from: "ed-uk"It's awhile since I saw the film, but didn't Colette, Linguini and Remy open their own cafe called La Ratatouille at the end of the film, couldn't the attraction restaurant be based on that ?
This. But from the blueprints it will be the rat part of the restaurant. With giants props and stuff, like the ride.
Sounds like fun, can't wait to try it.
I know it's a but soon, as it hasn't even opened yet (!) but do you think this will be as popular as the other Disney dark rides? Im not a fan of the movie myself, so holds no interest for me, but just wondering if it will be as beloved as the others are ? Suppose, as with anything, will take time.
what month is it due to open .
We took this pic on 23rd August
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When we peeked round the fence it looked fantastic, the detail and theming is just incredible
Guess what? Some of the scaffolding has come down! Check out the result: https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/status/379700261763436545/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/status/379700261763436545/photo/1)
Very good theming! Cannot wait! Plus there's shutters! Just stunning!
The Disneyland Paris Facebook page just revealed the first official visual for Ratatouille which shows the ride vehicle design!
Looks nice and stylish, taking inspiration from the movies end credit visuals.
The official name has been revealed as well: "Ratatouille : L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy"
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Looks great. but when will we know exact opening date?
Quote from: SGregory27 on September 21, 2013, 09:01:32 PM
Looks great. but when will we know exact opening date?
I am so excited to find out the opening for this as we are just back from our trip and i'm already planning our next visit!! I'm hoping it'll be open for March but I seriously doubt it. My first guess is an April opening to kinda coincide with the Studios anniversary, and it also fits for the upcoming Summer season. The anticipation is delicious! :D
Quote from: Ravenseye on September 22, 2013, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: SGregory27 on September 21, 2013, 09:01:32 PM
Looks great. but when will we know exact opening date?
I am so excited to find out the opening for this as we are just back from our trip and i'm already planning our next visit!! I'm hoping it'll be open for March but I seriously doubt it.
My first guess is an April opening to kinda coincide with the Studios anniversary, and it also fits for the upcoming Summer season.
The anticipation is delicious! :D
I'm hoping for 1st week of April as that's when we're going and it's the week before the Easter Holidays. Thought the studios open 16th March??
InsideDLParis has said summer 2014, but when in Summer is not known yet.
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Quote from: Ravenseye on September 22, 2013, 10:32:32 AM
Quote from: SGregory27 on September 21, 2013, 09:01:32 PM
Looks great. but when will we know exact opening date?
I am so excited to find out the opening for this as we are just back from our trip and i'm already planning our next visit!! I'm hoping it'll be open for March but I seriously doubt it.
My first guess is an April opening to kinda coincide with the Studios anniversary, and it also fits for the upcoming Summer season.
The anticipation is delicious! :D
I'm hoping for 1st week of April as that's when we're going and it's the week before the Easter Holidays. Thought the studios open 16th March??
Yes, indeed you are right! :D Well, that would be awesome timing for our trip but I'm not holding my breath.
So I mocked up a couple of designs for the attraction sign, based on the film logo and a menu from the video game respectively:
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In English, the full title is: Ratatouille: The Adventure of Totally Zany Remy. Very good name for a family ride, but I personally did like Kitchen Calamity better.
Video update 27 september 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gYQnoXRWQo
Here's almost 20 brand new photos of the Ratatouille construction site:
http://www.photosmagiques.com/blog/2013/09/30/ratatouille-construction-update-2/ (http://www.photosmagiques.com/blog/2013/09/30/ratatouille-construction-update-2/)
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It's coming along nicely, isn't it? It sure shows WDI hasn't lost it (although there is an immense amount of work to be done to get the entire 2nd gate back on track, but that's my opinion of course...)
I absolutely love the look of that ride!! This is getting me soo excited!!! I heard it's opening late summer. Any news relating to?
It looks real nice
Really nice pictures, thanks!
Can't wait to go and see it in person. It really looks good!
The English name will be Ratatouille-The Ride?
http://www.disneylandparis.com/BROCHURE/SUMMER14/E/catalogue/appli.htm#/15 (http://www.disneylandparis.com/BROCHURE/SUMMER14/E/catalogue/appli.htm#/15)
Well people are saying it is possibly late Summer next year. Sounds right to me!
New pictures of November 24th.
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New picture of December 5th (Walt Disney's Birthday!):
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It's looking beautiful, Disney theming at its best and just what the WDS needed. Looking forward to seeing it for myself when we go back next year.
Has there been any word on what the restaurant here will be like?
Is there any map you can see where the attraction is located ?
I did not found any ... :(
It's located in Toon Studio behind Toy Story Playland. I guess it's not on the WDS park maps because the attraction hasn't opened
The restaurant will be named "Chez Gusteau" and it will be a-la carte restaurant, and will contain animatronics.
New picture of December 13th:
(http://radiodisneyclub.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Ratat-003.jpg)
Beautiful! Any idea on when it will open?
oooh, restaurant sounds good! I was thinking the studios could do with a nice restaurant as opposed to fast food or buffet1 YAY!
Restaurant is going to be called Chez Remy and will serve just one main course: an entrecote of beef with ratatouille. Full article here (http://dedicatedtodlp.com/2013/12/16/exclusive-ratatouille-restaurant-shop-disneyland-paris/).
Lucky for us we like beef and ratatouille, just one choice of main course is a bit of a disappointment though, but providing it's well cooked and there is a good choice of starters and deserts it should be okay for us. Anyway at the very least it will improve the dining options in the WDS, instead of just fast food and a buffet. And if the restaurant is well themed it could make for an enjoyable experience.
Isn't ratatouille a peasant dish?
Yes, Ratatouille is, in fact, a peasant dish. It is quoted by Collette when asky Remy what to cook.
It sounds good. I would like to read the first restaurant reviews of people who have eaten there.
The official press release for Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy!!!
The world of Ratatouille comes to Disneyland Paris in 2014
Next summer, Disneyland Paris will unveil a major new attraction and mini-land inspired by the Oscar-winning Disney●Pixar film Ratatouille. The film, directed by Brad Bird, tells the tale of Rémy, a young rat who has amazing talents in the kitchen and dreams of one day becoming a great chef. This leads to a fun but perilous journey that eventually lands him as the head chef of one of the most famous restaurants in Paris. Now Rémy has arrived at Walt Disney Studios Park to share his culinary delights and crazy adventures with the entire family.
On the attraction Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy*, guests will shrink down to the size of a rat and join Rémy and his friends as they scurry through the kitchen, dining room, and walls of Gusteau's famous Parisian restaurant, all the while trying to avoid the nemesis from the film, Chef Skinner. This first of its kind Disney attraction will immerse guests into an animated world like never before as they experience what it's like to be a rat in a human sized world.
The attraction is located in a new corner of Toon Studio that's been transformed into a Ratatouille-inspired version of the City of Light. In addition to the attraction, this mini-land also features a shop, Chez Marianne Souvenirs de Paris**, and a rat-scale themed table service restaurant, Bistrot Chez Rémy*. The restaurant, which is the only one of its kind across Disney Parks worldwide, is directly adjacent to the attraction and serves the "little chef's" famous dish, ratatouille.
After Crush's Coaster(1), Cars Race Rally(2) and Toy Story Playland(3), Ratatouille will be the fourth attraction at the Walt Disney Studios Park inspired by a Disney●Pixar film. Disneyland Paris will once again combine its narration skills with state-of-the-art technology to offer the best possible experience.
Next summer, join us for Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy, only at Walt Disney Studios Park, Disneyland Paris.
This year! It's finally this year!
And even L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy is rolling off the tongue easily at last. ;)
Bistrot Chez Rémy sounds good to me too - though a "Relais de Venise"-style single menu option really doesn't... shame.
Isn't it great to be able to say that it opens this summer. Oh wow. An exciting few months ahead folks!
Now all we need is an opening date for the ride so we can make some plans and book our holiday. I'm dreaming of a few nights at the DLH. :)
Just months now :D
Counting down. Would really like to ride it this year.
We're booked for 23-28 June what do you think my chances are of getting to see the ride?
Quote from: pers5579 on January 01, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
We're booked for 23-28 June what do you think my chances are of getting to see the ride?
Reasonable. All we know is Summer 2014, I'd estimate it being earlier in Summer than later. You could be there for the soft openings. I think it'll become a little clearer in the next couple of months though,
I'll play bad cop and say unlikely - last I heard was late August, but that wasn't in any way confirmed. I think if the shop is Autumn, there's no way the attraction will be early Summer - that's just too much of an unexplained gap between the two.
Just to get a Point across, in the Official Press Release from Disneyland Paris they explain what the ride is about: guests will shrink down to the size of a rat and join Rémy and his friends as they scurry through the kitchen, dining room, and walls of Gusteau's famous Parisian restaurant, all the while trying to avoid the nemesis from the film, Chef Skinner.
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[/size]When Gusteau's is owned by Chef Skinner as he is labeled as a Chef, not sure if Linguini is in the ride as he is not mentioned.
Was going to book for mid June but now I don't know :-\
Im sure they are working on the ride non stop.
I would have thought May /June would be the usual time to open
I think they'll want to advertise the ride being open for summer sales:- they'd have a lot of unhappy visitors if it weren't open, and be missing out on a lot of business.
I assume you've all already seen this -- but I'm going to post a link to it anyway!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPOTGZSqjA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIPOTGZSqjA)
It looks terrific.... except for that bizarrely sinking rooftop at the end where they've got the perspective effect wrong. But let's ignore that and imagine that it's a subtle homage to Up!
I'm hoping there's going to be an invite for shareholders club members to ride it before the general public, if there is I'll be there faster than a rat up a drainpipe (excuse the pun) :)
Big Ratatouille news day today thanks to InsideDLParis twitter account. The official logo and first advert have been discovered. The advert is in German but I think looks really smart and the logo is cute.
http://https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/status/430676966111711232/photo/1 (http://https://twitter.com/InsideDLParis/status/430676966111711232/photo/1)
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aul77g6n-JY&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aul77g6n-JY&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
All slowly building up to the grand unveiling. Exciting stuff!
I'm so excited to see this coming!
I'm booked to go week beginning 14th July. I hope its open by then!
is it possible to see the work going on yet or is it only visible from the parachute ride?
Well they are saying summer 2014! So I hope it will be open when we go in october!
Quote from: Its Just Like I DreamedIt on February 10, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I'm booked to go week beginning 14th July. I hope its open by then!
I think you can write off that first Monday of your trip it's Bastille Day and it'll be swamped :(
Quote from: Samninetysix on February 13, 2014, 10:39:09 AM
Quote from: Its Just Like I DreamedIt on February 10, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I'm booked to go week beginning 14th July. I hope its open by then!
I think you can write off that first Monday of your trip it's Bastille Day and it'll be swamped :(
Yep, expect huge queues on Bastille Day.
This topic needs some updates after the last few days! ;)
First, the new official exterior visual:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgQdMa9IMAAz1--.jpg:large) (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/12/la-place-de-remy-revealed-in-beautiful-new-ratatouille-ride-exterior-visual/)
Article: http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/12/la-place-de-remy-revealed-in-beautiful-new-ratatouille-ride-exterior-visual/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/12/la-place-de-remy-revealed-in-beautiful-new-ratatouille-ride-exterior-visual/)
And then all the concepts, models and much more from Tom Fitzgerald's AGM presentation:
Thanks to DLPWelcome (http://www.dlpwelcome.com) for the video.
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/02/20140213_ratagm_6-640x360.jpg) (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/02/20140213_ratagm_13-640x477.jpg) (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/02/20140213_ratagm_17-640x360.jpg) (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/02/20140213_ratagm_18-640x375.jpg) (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/)
Full transcript and 24 still captures of all the concepts here: http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/13/tom-fitzgerald-presents-first-ratatouille-ride-sneak-peek-concepts-models-construction/)
It's so exciting and so good to finally see concept art - if only DLP were to slowly drip the originals of these images onto their Twitter feed or something, rather than just no doubt using the same single promotional image for the next x months. The public like to see concept art too! It shows actual work and talent and art has gone into the project...
Fantastic update Anthony! Many thanks :) !
Doesn't seem to have been posted yet but the Ratatouille: Kitchen Calamity Soundtrack is being made by the composer who created the original soundtrack to the film Ratatouille, Michael Giacchino! There might be a CD being released after opening!
Michael Giacchino has even been posting short videos with audio to his Instagram account (http://instagram.com/m_giacchino), giving a taste of the audio to come.
I've collected them here: http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/02/17/michael-giacchino-shares-more-ratatouille-ride-soundtrack-previews-first-audio/
Kristof collected them here: http://www.mickeyland.be/blog/zo-klinkt-ratatouille-the-ride/
A CD would amazing, very unusual for Paris though so I don't hold my breath. I'm probably most excited for the area music loop, although we don't necessary know Giacchino is working on that, his final video certainly sounds how you'd expect that to sound, don't you think?
Thanks for the update! Now I'm even more excited. It all looks fantastic.
Is there any new information about the opening date?
I would like to say thank you for all updates as well. It looks really good!
Regarding opening date, rumors are saying it's 14th July, a national French day. Also rumors are saying soft openings are happening in the last days of June.
could the last days of june be anywhere between the 18th and 24th do you think? my hubby's just requested we move our hols from september to june, I was really excited, but now I'm gutted we'll miss the new ride!
Quote from: George Geef on February 13, 2014, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Samninetysix on February 13, 2014, 10:39:09 AM
Quote from: Its Just Like I DreamedIt on February 10, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I'm booked to go week beginning 14th July. I hope its open by then!
I think you can write off that first Monday of your trip it's Bastille Day and it'll be swamped :(
Yep, expect huge queues on Bastille Day.
I usually go around Bastille Day, arriving by Eurostar so won't be doing that much on the Monday anyway. Thanks for the info though.
What way do soft openings work? Ill be their the end of June and am just wondering how soft openings work ?
Quote from: irishbhoy1888 on February 27, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
What way do soft openings work? Ill be their the end of June and am just wondering how soft openings work ?
Nothing to special really. It means that the ride can be open, or not.
It's not going to be announced on the program or at the information board where the waiting line times are announced.
It's just open when it's open, and closed when it's closed.
It could be open for like an hour per day. You just have to be lucky.
So basically what your saying is that you need to be in the area and be lucky that it's open when your around ?
Will Disney even give a date on when these soft openings will commence ?
The whole point of these soft openings is just to test the ride in realistic conditions without the risk of disappointing the crowds when something goes wrong. So probably, some of the insiders will be able to leak some dates a few days in advance, but that will be it. It wouldn't make sense for the park to make official statements about soft openings ;-)
We were there for the soft opening of ToT some years ago , for 2 days we got to ride it over and over with no queue , but we got lucky because it was only open for a few hours each day. The third day it was closed completely , it is just luck of the draw ! The cast member at the ride entrance might let you know if it will be running that day , good luck !
Quote from: pers5579 on January 01, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
We're booked for 23-28 June what do you think my chances are of getting to see the ride?
Same here. We are there during the same time period as you and would love to get on the ride. Any chance of qualifying for a soft opening?
It looks like we'll have to get used to another new name!
DLRP Today — Ratatouille rebranded: The Ride becomes "Ratatouille: The Adventure" (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/03/19/ratatouille-rebranded-the-ride-becomes-ratatouille-the-adventure-at-disneyland-paris/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/03/20140319_ratatouilleadventure_1-640x349.jpg)
What a name change! :o ;)
some piccies of the construction. looks good!!
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Really looks good!
I hope (fingers crossed) it will be open in August!
Ratatouille will be featured on the park and resort maps from 3rd April, here's a peek:
DLRP Today — Ratatouille's La Place de Rémy joins Walt Disney Studios Park and resort maps (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/03/31/ratatouilles-la-place-de-remy-joins-walt-disney-studios-park-and-resort-maps/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/03/20140331_ratmap_11-640x456.jpg)
Heard a commercial today for the ride on the radio, so stoked. :)
Disneyland Paris YouTube Channel has uploaded a new video on Ratatouille: The Adventure!
Official Opening Date: 10th July 2014
Also the video shows the ride at the moment backstage! Check it out!
A closer look at all the spoilers and sneak peeks in the new video!
DLRP Today — First Ratatouille interior scenes, props, Ratmobiles revealed in new teaser video (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/04/16/first-ratatouille-interior-scenes-props-ratmobiles-revealed-in-new-teaser-video/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/04/20140416_ratvideo_1-640x360.jpg)
I think I prefer the new English name. The old one just seemed to short, perhaps a bit of "just call it Ratatouille: The Ride because that's what guests will call it anyway"
At least it also lines up better with the French title.
New pictures:
April 22nd:
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April 24th:
Details of the theming:
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http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2261.jpg (http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2261.jpg)
Fastpass entrance:
http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2256.jpg (http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2256.jpg)
Whole area:
http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2227.jpg (http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2227.jpg)
http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2212.jpg (http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2212.jpg)
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Fountain:
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http://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1520781_593002124140011_2303915184563181648_n.jpg (http://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1520781_593002124140011_2303915184563181648_n.jpg)
Bistrot Chez Remy:
http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2234.jpg (http://www.dlpwelcome.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_2234.jpg)
April 26th:
Fountain almost completed:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmIxuZYIYAA9o6_.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmIxuZYIYAA9o6_.jpg:large)
April 27th:
http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10256447_778352055517559_5702319169424876655_n.jpg
New pictures:
May 6th:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/0496958c5cec20eb572b301591c79237/tumblr_n57hkpXHAK1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Safety sign:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/b95d552868ef5de908013edc87e41cd6/tumblr_n59l14RZ4P1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
New "Colette" and "Linguini" promotional picture
http://31.media.tumblr.com/baef3fe4deca2901420fe766ac54eee8/tumblr_n5lydaIwNj1t0giw6o1_400.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/c15987d288a30ac45c6d2dd002848c26/tumblr_n5lyhm1OLu1t0giw6o1_400.jpg
May 15th:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/383cdf53796ab031f72b21b59c26c6e5/tumblr_n5oaz9ZQWh1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Chez Rémy sign!
http://37.media.tumblr.com/bcfba361f12300450b8ff28dff024880/tumblr_n5pzhklqeo1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
May 18th: Location signs!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/bce2db580bca79477bf9df4dcc81177a/tumblr_n5tw2oJuJI1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Fastpass tickets entry:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/db639d2f250475635bcaae8810a3c97d/tumblr_n5tw7fA9581t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Place de Rémy almost completed:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/fc65adb6a8b2f46a983c36e0412aeae9/tumblr_n5twc9MOWp1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Test of the lamps:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/f6505f92d4849b8bf900dc39335f06f3/tumblr_n5twgpiktp1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Info about Bistrot Chez Rémy:
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Picture of today: the Bistro sign is on the veranda:
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And finally, big news: the Rat-mobiles will be of 5 different colours.
Great pictures! I'm really looking forward to my next visit! I hope I will be able togo on this ride! :D
Some more info: The Main Queue will be 70 minutes wait time from beginning to end, Bikes have appeared outside Bistrot Chez Remy, Ride Narration will be in English and French and 3D Projections will mix with Trackless Rat-mobiles to fully immerse guests.
From the official press releases posted on dlrptoday, there will be the "feeling to fall from rooftops to kitchen" special effect!! :D
New pictures:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/d197fd41204bcdbd8910aee4b6bdf395/tumblr_n612mvpcIQ1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/b5ebe25bc4135f3fcf5fb64ec1cd19dc/tumblr_n612vpS5rw1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/56c3553ff828582b3b4ba484b755386e/tumblr_n6134uCQZI1t0giw6o1_500.jpg
Music on Place de Rémy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkVuTB-yqBI
Be sure to look out for:
Linguini's Bicycle
Collette's Motorcycle
Chef Skinner's Stolen Vespa
The complete Ratatouille – The Adventure press release:
Official opening date:
Experience the magic of Ratatouille on 10 July 2014 at Walt Disney Studios Park
It's officially on the menu: on 10 July 2014, Disneyland Paris unveils a new world dedicated to the Disney•Pixar film Ratatouille. Named La Place de Rémy in tribute to the "little chef," this all-new mini-land will open in Walt Disney Studios Park and will feature a completely original attraction, inspired by Rémy's adventures in the film.
The all-new attraction, the 60th to open at Disneyland Paris, is called Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy. Guests are shrunk down to the size of a rat and board "ratmobiles" for a zany culinary adventure through Gusteau's famous restaurant. From a Paris rooftop to the restaurant's bustling kitchen, cavernous food locker and busy dining room under the careful watch of Chef Skinner... this tasty adventure is full of twists and turns.
Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy anchors La Place de Rémy, a corner of the park's Toon Studios that has been transformed into a Ratatouille-inspired version of The City of Light. This brand new mini-land, exclusive to Walt Disney Studios Park, also features Bistrot Chez Rémy, a table service restaurant serving, among other delicious dishes, the little chef's famous ratatouille in a larger-than-life setting. A special boutique*, "Chez Marianne – Souvenirs de Paris", will also open its doors.
Released in 2007, Ratatouille , which won the Oscar for best animated feature film, tells the story of Rémy, a rat who dreams of becoming a renowned French chef. Filmgoers got to know him in an adventure that took him to the top Paris restaurants. With the arrival of Rémy at Walt Disney Studios Park, guests will find themselves in the middle of his exciting culinary adventure.
Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy is a first of its kind Disney attraction that features trackless ride vehicles matched to enormous 3D projections of original animation by Pixar Animation Studios. The attraction takes creative imagination and technical know-how, the hallmarks of Walt Disney Imagineering, to create a state-of-the-art storytelling experience. The crazy culinary adventure begins 10 July 2014 , exclusively at Walt Disney Studios Park, Disneyland Paris.
The 60th ride at Disneyland Paris
The culinary world of the Disney•Pixar film Ratatouille comes to life in Ratatouille L'Aventure Totalement Toquée De Rémy, a first of its kind Disney attraction that uses trackless ride vehicles matched to an enormous 3D projection system featuring original animation from Pixar Animation Studios.
Guests shrink down to the size of a rat and join Rémy, the "little chef" from the film for a crazy culinary adventure that sends them scurrying through the kitchen, dining room, and walls of Gusteau's famous Paris restaurant.
Synopsis
The adventure begins when guests become rat-sized and board a « ratmobile », a vehicle that looks like a cute version of the furry rodents from the film. Soon the ratmobiles are on a Paris rooftop where they encounter Rémy and the ghost of Gusteau as they discuss the special meal Rémy wants to prepare in guests' honor. Moments later, Rémy's excitement leads to him and the ratmobiles plummeting down to the kitchen floor of Gusteau's restaurant. Being rats in a human world is fraught with danger, so Rémy and his new friends in the ratmobiles have to quickly move out of sight before Chef Skinner spots them. Rémy leads the way as all of the rats move from one tight hiding place to another. Luckily, Rémy's human pal Linguini is there to help.
Ride in the "ratmobile"
Guests will discover a vehicle that is, shall we say, a little unusual, letting them enjoy the experience as though they were the size of our lovable little rodents. Welcome to the ratmobile! Specially designed by our Imagineers, this strange and amazing car, which will make all real rodents green with envy, comes in five colours. It is great for families since it holds six passengers. The ratmobile travels in groups of three, but like real rats, none of them follows the same route. They move using a technology that requires no rails.
Now guests can really experience what it's like to be a furry little rodent in a human-sized world as they dart quickly from hiding place to hiding place during this zany culinary adventure.
La Place de Rémy:
Disneyland tribute to Paris
The new attraction, Ratatouille L'Aventure Totalement Toquée De Rémy, will be located in a new area of Walt Disney Studios Park called La Place de Rémy in honour of the energetic "little chef" from the film and the city he loves, Paris. This new mini-land pays tribute to the real City of Light while at the same time evoking the whimsical Paris seen in the film.
Also on the Ratatouille-inspired menu is a restaurant, and not just any restaurant, but Bistrot Chez Rémy, with a similar atmosphere and proportions to the restaurant experienced at the end of the attraction. Completing the mini-land, and arriving in the autumn, is a new boutique, once again paying tribute to France: "Chez Marianne – Souvenirs de Paris".
The Paris of Ratatouille draws inspiration from several iconic neighbourhoods of the City of Light. Place Dauphine and Boulevard Haussmann particularly influence its architectural design. The colours of building façades and the entire neighbourhood are purposefully more intense than in real-life Paris. The Imagineers chose the Paris of the Ratatouille film world which is a valentine to the City of Light. The vitality of the film is completely preserved.
One of the most important elements of La Place de Rémy is its fountain. Filmgoers saw a typically Parisian example in front of Gusteau's restaurant in the film. To recreate it in the Park, the Imagineers studied many Parisian fountains. The inspiration for our fountain was found in Place des Vosges, with its circular basins and lion heads spouting water. Once the shape and dimensions were decided, the designer Harley Jessup, who worked on the film
Ratatouille, personally added the finishing touches that make reference to Rémy, his rat friends and the kitchen. Gourmet rats, of course, hold up sculpted bottles of freely flowing champagne.
La Place de Rémy will include two main streets: Allée des Marchands and Rue Auguste Gusteau. A tribute to the world's greatest chef, Paul Bocuse, who provided plenty of inspiration for the creators of Ratatouille, will be unveiled on the central square near Bistrot Chez Rémy. The lampposts and benches will also be typically Parisian. Thanks to all these elements created by Disney's Imagineers, guests will be able to stroll through Paris as it appears in Ratatouille. Fans will also be able to spot references to the film, such as Linguini's bicycle, Colette's motorbike or the Vespa stolen by the dreaded Chef Skinner.
Ratatouille on the menu at Bistrot Chez Rémy
Delicious French cuisine, like that presented in the Disney•Pixar film Ratatouille, can now be enjoyed by all in Bistrot Chez Rémy, a themed table service restaurant inspired by the world and recipes of the film. The upscale, but light-hearted 370-person restaurant is the creation of Rémy, the rat who loves to cook, and is located in a new corner of Walt Disney Studios Park that's been transformed into a Ratatouille-themed version of The City of Light. Join us for lunch or dinner at Bistrot Chez Rémy from 10 July 2014.
Bistrot Chez Rémy will welcome guests into a world where they are shrunk to the size of rats immersing them in an oversized world where jam jar lids serve as table tops and champagne corks are turned into chairs. Designed by Rémy and his friends, the restaurant also features everyday human items made large like paper cocktail umbrellas turned into parasols, giant cookbooks standing on end, and plates used to separate seating areas.
On the menu during this Ratatouille-inspired experience, Rémy has prepared a unique menu that includes entrecote, chips, and of course, ratatouille! The "little chef" recommends a seasonal salad to start and a choice of dessert: a selection of French cheeses, including Brie de Meaux, and a fruit salad. Bon appétit!
From fantasy to reality with the creators of Disney's attractions, the Imagineers
Guiding Disneyland Paris guests from the dream of animated films to the reality of the Parks with their illusions intact takes more than the wave of a magic wand. It's all in a day's work for the Imagineers. This unique group of Creative and Technical people transforms the biggest animated films into immersive experiences you'll find nowhere else.
The birth of the Imagineers
Walt Disney Imagineering was formed by Walt Disney in 1952 to plan, design and build Disneyland Park in Anaheim, California. Today, Imagineers are responsible for the creation, from concept initiation through installation, of all Disney resorts, parks, attractions, cruise ships and new entertainment venues all over the world. The Imagineering team includes planners, artists, designers, project managers, engineers, architects, art directors, audiovisual specialists, animators, production groups, programmers, site planners, financial analysts and researchers – more than 140 unique disciplines in total. But their work doesn't stop there: they also design and create restaurants, boutiques and hotels, in short, everything that contributes to "immersing" guests in the magic of Disney.
The unique strength of Walt Disney Imagineering lies in its fusion of creative and technical talents, building new types of shows and entertainment inspired by Disney's dreams and stories. Thanks to their expertise, Ratatouille: L'Aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy puts state-of-the-art technology to work, to bring the story to life. John Lasseter who not only directs the Disney and Pixar animation studios but also holds the position of Principal Creative Advisor with Walt Disney Imagineering, himself said, "I promise you that we will not only continue to make the best films, but also the best attractions."
(http://www.mickeyland.be/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20140601-ratatouille-press-release.jpg)
All this new information and pictures makes it even harder to wait, but my first chance to see it all is in October. Until then I will just enjoy the pictures! ;D
Cast Member costumes were previewed last week, with some fun details!
DLRP Today — Cast Member costumes for Ratatouille attraction and restaurant unveiled (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2014/06/02/cast-member-costumes-for-ratatouille-attraction-and-restaurant-unveiled/)
(http://www.dlrptoday.com/images/2014/06/20140602_ratcostumes_1.jpg)
WOOT!!!!!!
Dear Shareholders Club Member,
The Shareholders Club is extending an exclusive invitation for you to come and experience our all new attraction, Ratatouille: L'aventure Totalement Toquée de Rémy on Saturday, June 28, 2014 in the Walt Disney Studios Park® at Disneyland® Paris. Registration is limited and is on a first come, first served basis. A confirmation of your registration will be sent you in the mail.
:)
Annual passport holders (Dream, Fantasy & Francilien) will be able to experience the Ratatouille ride from 26 to 29 June. There will probably be registration, just like in the case of the Shareholders Club members, and annual passport holders will be notified via email.
(Source: Dlrp Express)
So is anyone going to go for the AP (or shareholders) previews??
The dates are quite bad for us, lots going on that weekend, so we're going to try to go for Thursday's AP previews (26th). I can't wait for all the details to come out and book something!!
We've not had anything through for the Dream Pass yet. Either way I doubt we can justify the trip just to try this a couple of weeks earlier than the general public will. Bare minimum spend for us would be around £500 to get there and back and have an overnight stay. I'm sure it'll still be there in August when we go :)
Ah, it's a lot easier for us, we can just drive down, just need a hotel for one night
We also drive but alas our car isn't as frugal on diesel as some :( . We live in Suffolk and it's normally about 1¾ - 2 hour drive to the Eurotunnel then about 3 hours from Calais to DLP. I guess the Eurotunnel would only be about £62 return but just checked and no can do on 27th - return 28th or the next day. It normally costs me about £80 each way in fuel add on the crossing (if I could get one) then tolls of €44-ish (although we have a Sanef tag so that wouldn't come out the bank till the next month) then a night in a hotel and a couple of meals/lunch etc. Not a lot of change from £500
Quote from: never2old on June 06, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
So is anyone going to go for the AP (or shareholders) previews??
The dates are quite bad for us, lots going on that weekend, so we're going to try to go for Thursday's AP previews (26th). I can't wait for all the details to come out and book something!!
As posted elsewhere, we've applied, and received the following back - do people think that this is confirmation that we've been allocated spaces, or just that we're in a ballot? Registration finishes on 23rd June, which wouldn't give us much time to sort out a ferry if we waited until then.
We confirm your registration for the Shareholders Club Event "Ratatouille" that will take place on June 28, 2014.
You are registered for a total of 2 invitation(s).
A few days after registrations close, you will receive your event registration confirmation that you must bring on June 28, 2014, with your valid Shareholders Club card to access the event.
really REALLY excited for this! probably going to fastpass it though as i expect queue will be horrendous for the first few months!
Great for those who can go and have a try earlier! Please, tell us after that, we wait! :D And if there are fotos to see ..... ;D
Is restaurant des stars still open at the moment ? I'll be there on Tuesday for 4 days
Quote from: irishbhoy1888 on June 13, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
Is restaurant des stars still open at the moment ? I'll be there on Tuesday for 4 days
If I'm not mistaken it is, but Remy will be there until June 15.
Very cool commercial!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXj4_gOIVSo
Quote from: Simba 27 on June 14, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Very cool commercial!
I LOVE it! Thanks for sharing Simba 27! I really can't wait to experience Ratatouille in September!
That's a great commercial, I would like to see the slimmed down TV version as that's quite long for an ad.
Is resturant de stars closing ?
Quote from: Simba 27 on June 14, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Very cool commercial!
Such an excellent video! Can't believe it's only fan-made.
Quote from: hawian rollercoaster on June 14, 2014, 10:49:56 PM
Is resturant de stars closing ?
I don't think so no. Only Remy will disappear from the restaurant.
Good its one of my favs .
Got my place reserved for the AP previews, Thursday afternoon :D
So far the reservations are only open for the Dream AP, I hope the open them for the Fantasy AP holders soon... My DH has a Fantasy, I hope we can get a place for him in the same time slot... Otherwise I'll have to tell him all about it ;)
Now to find a hotel for the night before....
It's gonna be mayhem trying to get on this ride, I've got visions of Crush's Coaster, having to queue at the entrance to the Studios Park an hour before the gates open then sprinting to the ride entrance
New French commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWHKr7IkdB8
Here it is the DLP Today post about it:
http://www.dlptoday.com/2014/06/16/watch-ratatouille-the-adventure-tv-spot-launches-with-thrilling-ratmobile-ride/
Yesterday it was the CMs' previews and from the reports I've read it is a spectacular ride! It's in 4D, which makes it even more awesome!
That's it guys! Here's the first on ride video of DLP's new gem! Enjoy!
http://youtu.be/mz8RQUI_eSc (http://youtu.be/mz8RQUI_eSc)
I gave it a partial watch as I want to fully experience it in person. Looks like they've done a great job, although its perhaps more reliant on projections than I was expecting.
Quote from: Rocketeer on June 21, 2014, 08:51:32 PM
Looks like they've done a great job, although its perhaps more reliant on projections than I was expecting.
These were my thoughts exactly, but it will definitely be a lot more different when seen in person. As with everything in 3D it can't be properly experienced unless we see it live!
looks great can't wait to ride this in Feb.
Judging by the photo's on DLRP Today, the whole area looks just beautiful! The theming looks better than any I've seen for a long, long time. The restaurant looks amazing, as does the menu. I am so excited to go in February next year! I only hope they have thought about how to ensure the exterior remains looking as pretty in Winter as it does in Summer!
I've been expecting a ride similar in nature to the trackless Winnie The Pooh ride (in Tokyo?), which looks immensely good fun, and quite different each time you ride - this footage appears to suggest it is mostly the same, with only minor differences based on which ratmobile you are in.
Still, that said, I wish I could have gone to next week's shareholders pre-opening, LOL!
This looks great! Can't wait to experience it in person! :D
I can't help it but rant when I see people already commenting negatively about the ride without seeing it in person! How can you tell when all you've seen is a POV video? By the way, it's not about comments made by people here, I saw them on FB this morning and they made me furious!
^That's the problem with the 'net these days. Some (not all) make an instant judgement based on usually poor quality videos. Now sometimes they can be right, if you look at some of the elements used (especially if you're a park regular) you can gauge how it would be in real life, but there is still something about experiencing it in person that makes the world of difference. Even any of the Disneyland classics don't look their best on poor video.
I'm not saying that everyone is wrong, and certainly not from the comments in this thread, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course.
I'll admit I've done it myself, just the other day, I declared that the Hogwarts Express was underwhelming. I'm sure in person its much better.
As for Ratatouille, from what I've seen it doesn't look that bad, a decent attraction that is certainly a welcome addition to WDS, if not Disneyland Paris itself.
Sure, as a fan, I could suggest tweaks here and there, but I certainly wouldn't call it a disappointment.
Perhaps some just expect too much these days?
Well said Rocketeer! The thing is they are comparing it with rides such as The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman and Harry Potter & the Forbidden Journey and claim that after all these years of waiting and how much technology has advanced, Ratatouille falls short of what had been expected. And, again, all this just by watching a POV video! ???
I personally think it looks great. It's hard to tell from that video but to me it has lots of elements in it from other rides - Can't wait!! :)
Quote from: msRavenswood on June 22, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Well said Rocketeer! The thing is they are comparing it with rides such as The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman and Harry Potter & the Forbidden Journey and claim that after all these years of waiting and how much technology has advanced, Ratatouille falls short of what had been expected. And, again, all this just by watching a POV video! ???
To compare Spidey with this is (forgive the pun) is like comparing chalk to cheese. Two different rides with two different target audiences
Although I am super excited to see the new ride I'm going to be good and not watch any spoilers so on the 10th of July ill be going in with the pure excitement that we finally have a new ride! :)
Quote from: Princessjo on June 22, 2014, 03:26:20 PM
Although I am super excited to see the new ride I'm going to be good and not watch any spoilers so on the 10th of July ill be going in with the pure excitement that we finally have a new ride! :)
Same here - though in my case it'll be 14th September :) :)
Quote from: gingajen on June 21, 2014, 10:52:35 PM
Judging by the photo's on DLRP Today, the whole area looks just beautiful! The theming looks better than any I've seen for a long, long time. The restaurant looks amazing, as does the menu. I am so excited to go in February next year! I only hope they have thought about how to ensure the exterior remains looking as pretty in Winter as it does in Summer!
I'm not impressed with the menu - there's not enough choice and it's way too expensive. So while I'm looking forward to seeing the area and going on the ride in September I won't be going in the restaurant.
Quote from: orangarnold on June 22, 2014, 12:50:58 PM
To compare Spidey with this is (forgive the pun) is like comparing chalk to cheese. Two different rides with two different target audiences
Excellent point. L'Adventure has never been even suggested as a thrill attraction, its always been a family dark ride and by the looks of it that's what we've got. And there's nothing wrong with that.
WDS has plenty of thrills for now, and probably will end up with some more in the future (if the rumours are to be believed) so Remy fits in well with that plan.
Quote from: msRavenswood on June 22, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Well said Rocketeer! The thing is they are comparing it with rides such as The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman and Harry Potter & the Forbidden Journey and claim that after all these years of waiting and how much technology has advanced, Ratatouille falls short of what had been expected. And, again, all this just by watching a POV video! ???
Thanks. I'm only really echoing what you pointed out, that you can't judge a book by its cover, or in this case judge a dark ride by one POV video. ;)
I think there is another element that seems to be overlooked when some inexplicably and instantly compare this to Potter; money. Not saying that L'Adventure was done on the cheap but it's budget has to be somewhat smaller than what Universal shelled out for Forbidden Journey and Gringotts. Uni spent big and knew they'd easily recoup it.
And that's not to the detriment of Remyland - it looks like they'd spent a lot and spent well. Given the issues in Paris, they could have easily gone for yet another studio façade but instead chose wisely to include the restaurant and the swish recreation of a little corner of the City of Lights. So with that in mind I can excuse the ride itself being a little light on some effects or AA's.
Just seen the on ride video, look's like an epic ride! I personally think they should make a pixar land.
I suspect one of the biggest draws about this ride will be the atmosphere of the whole area - very detailed, beautifully realised. It's impossible to fully appreciate that on a video. Particularly when you can't experience the 3D.
Quote from: CentralPlazaPerson on June 23, 2014, 03:51:50 AM
Just seen the on ride video, look's like an epic ride! I personally think they should make a pixar land.
They sort of have as the Ratatouille stuff is very close to the Toy Story stuff.
Here's my complete video of the
Grand Opening Ceremony, featuring Bob Iger, Tom Staggs and Philippe Gas!
And now here's a
Walkthrough Tour of the attraction, including the exterior, queue, load, unload and exit. Featuring the Ratmobiles moving around the loading areas with NO on-ride scene spoilers, this is hopefully perfect if you want a glimpse of how the ride looks and works without spoiling everything...
Wow great vid. Really makes me want to go even more now! ;D
**Spoiler**
That queue is awesome - especially Aguste Gusteau! They've done an amazing job with the whole thing IMO.
While its nice to see the restaurant straight away at the exit, I don't know if I'd want to sit at the table right by the 3D glasses bins. But that's a minor point.
**end spoiler**
The only thing I don't care for is the fact that its so close to Playland you get the screams from the Parachute jump ruining the tranquility of the courtyard.
From Anthony latest video, is clearly visible that the glasses bin aren't in the bistrot, but just in the exit zone; then you need to go out and enter in the bistrot. ;)
I understand what Rocketeer means though - if you're sat next to the unload area it's not very private. It's quite different to Blue Lagoon where the other guests are quite distant and pass by quickly. I had almost expected the Bistrot floor level to perhaps be elevated a bit, so that you're looking down slightly on the unload.
Here are a couple of cool official videos DLP have released...
First the timelapse in HD - this is just 30 seconds on the original video but I slowed it down so you get a better look:
And second, six minutes of construction footage from the later phases of construction. Lots of potential spoilers here!
And now, since the Annual Passport previews begin tomorrow and more people get to experience it for themselves, here's a longer version of the video tour complete with a full on-ride pov!
I still strongly urge you
not to watch this or any on-ride video if you've yet to ride. It's actually impressive how much of the action the camera can pick up, but it misses everything else which adds to the experience (not least the 3D), and it's that huge array of "ingredients" which for me makes the ride such a delight and a real cut above almost anything else at DLP.
I thought I'd come and add my views. As part of the fan-crowd on Sunday, I got the chance to experience the ride. As Anthony has said a few times, videos cannot do this one justice. The ride vehicles are possibly the most complex thing you'll ever get the chance to sit in at a theme park.
I left the ride open-mouthed even to the point where a Disney exec asked nervously my opinion. I loved it, with this ride, Walt Disney Studios park has come of age.
Now, I have written up my thoughts - but it is spoiler-filled, so be warned: http://www.dlptownsquare.com/2014/06/ratatouille-the-adventure-the-fantastic-new-addition-to-disneyland-paris/
OK, for those who've been on L'Adventure... is this now the best attraction at WDS? Could it be considered the best at the resort?
Quote from: Rocketeer on June 27, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
OK, for those who've been on L'Adventure... is this now the best attraction at WDS? Could it be considered the best at the resort?
Depends, most advanced, very well done, spectacular yes.
But if you go for "Big Thrills" it won't beat other rides.
However for best family ride, probably yes.
Quote from: Rocketeer on June 27, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
OK, for those who've been on L'Adventure... is this now the best attraction at WDS? Could it be considered the best at the resort?
I feel that it is the best realised attraction. The level of immersion is just next level. It's not a thrill ride, but it is a classic Disney ride.
Has anyone who's been on the ride any idea of when the shop'll be open? I know it's autumn some time. I always get a fluffy toy when I go to a Disney park. Last time i went to DLP was December 2004 and I got a snowman Winnie the Pooh! I'd like to get a Remy this time - though I guess Ratatouille stuff will be available in other shops in the park.
Quote from: Andybear on June 28, 2014, 10:39:49 AM
Has anyone who's been on the ride any idea of when the shop'll be open? I know it's autumn some time. I always get a fluffy toy when I go to a Disney park. Last time i went to DLP was December 2004 and I got a snowman Winnie the Pooh! I'd like to get a Remy this time - though I guess Ratatouille stuff will be available in other shops in the park.
Before the end of the year is all we know. But Ratatouille merchandise is widely available across the two parks and Disney Village.
Quote from: GeoffD on June 28, 2014, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: Andybear on June 28, 2014, 10:39:49 AM
Has anyone who's been on the ride any idea of when the shop'll be open? I know it's autumn some time. I always get a fluffy toy when I go to a Disney park. Last time i went to DLP was December 2004 and I got a snowman Winnie the Pooh! I'd like to get a Remy this time - though I guess Ratatouille stuff will be available in other shops in the park.
Before the end of the year is all we know. But Ratatouille merchandise is widely available across the two parks and Disney Village.
Thank you :)
As others have said the ride videos uploaded cannot do this ride justice.
I also attended the Fan Preview last weekend and my review of Ratatouille : The Adventure can be found here: www.salonmickey.co.uk (http://salonmickey.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/the-magic-of-ratatouille-laventure.html)
I haven't posted on this forum in years, I think, so this is weird. ;) But, hello again! It's been so long, I'm not sure I'm capable of writing more than 140 characters.
So anyway, I went to the Ratatouille Fan Preview Day on 22 June 2014, and I shot some stuff. So, here are my three videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTaSWTauUlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BxO7FPuHMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOT1mkIBkms
Is there any height restriction on this ride ?
Quote from: irishbhoy1888 on July 06, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
Is there any height restriction on this ride ?
No, there isn't. It's a ride for the whole family. :D
just got back from our trip and managed to ride this on friday....
the whole area is beautiful , and the ride , what can i say , it was just fantastic....we all came off with open mouths it was AMAZING, didnt want it to end...
Now that's a Disney standard ride :) can't wait to go back and ride it , I only missed it by a couple of weeks .
...And it's open!
(http://www.dlptoday.com/images/2014/07/20140710_ratopening_1-640x426.jpg)
Pictures, report and press release fun facts here:
• DLP Today — La Place de Rémy officially opens to the public with blockbuster Ratatouille lines (http://www.dlptoday.com/2014/07/10/la-place-de-remy-officially-opens-to-the-public-with-blockbuster-ratatouille-lines/)Official video of the ceremony:
And for those of you who couldn't make it to the Fan Preview Day, but would be interested to know everything that was said during WDI's Making of Ratatouille presentation, check out my full transcript.
It'll take a while to read, but there's tons of detail in it:
The Making of Ratatouille
https://medium.com/p/b97a118fe293
Ive been watching this topic forever it seems, love the film, and now the ride is open I cant wait to ride it when we go in November but I do have one concern, the 3D glasses. I wear glasses and every time Ive been on anything that needs 3D glasses, the cinema, HISTA, Captain EO etc I cant wear them because theyre not big enough to go over my own glasses. Question is are they a different style, more visor like, or are they the same as the ones they used with HISTA?
^I've got the same concern RockNRoller.
From what I can gather, these are slightly different 3D Spec to the HISTA 'Safety Goggles'. As to whether that helps us fitting them over our glasses is another matter. :)
They're safety goggle-esque but have no lower support, so fit over glasses nicely, or at least did for me.
They'll sit up high on the nose bridge, you should be fine :)
That's good to hear then! 8) (an excuse to use that emoticon!)
Although I know I'll probably still get shadowing on the screen. Not much you can do about that I suppose.
Has anyone yet made experiences how to get into Ratatouille using the Disabled Priority Card? Is it he same procedure as at all the other rides (which means you ENTER the ride throught the EXIT and go straight to the Loading Zone....)
I was just going to ask the same question ;) We go in less than 3 weeks yippee!!! So excited to experience this ride, feels like I've been waiting forever!!! ;D
I wonder what the wait times will be like today given that its Fête nationale.
Quote from: Trekkie101 on July 13, 2014, 04:05:48 PM
They're safety goggle-esque but have no lower support, so fit over glasses nicely, or at least did for me.
They'll sit up high on the nose bridge, you should be fine :)
Thanks, I wear safety goggles in the garage and they fit well. If its a similar style I should be ok 8)
Quote from: Anthony on July 11, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
...And it's open!
(http://www.dlptoday.com/images/2014/07/20140710_ratopening_1-640x426.jpg)
Pictures, report and press release fun facts here:
• DLP Today — La Place de Rémy officially opens to the public with blockbuster Ratatouille lines (http://www.dlptoday.com/2014/07/10/la-place-de-remy-officially-opens-to-the-public-with-blockbuster-ratatouille-lines/)
Official video of the ceremony:
I love the way Remy runs onto the stage in the video then cuts the ribbon ;D And who is the bloke in the grey suit who speaks at the beginning - he's gorgeous!
The Disney Store's online shop have now started selling DLP Ratatouille merchandise - I'm tempted to get a tote bag before I go as I really want one of those ;D
http://www.disneystore.co.uk/ratatouille/disney-parks-collection/mn/1000043+1315002/?Ns=pParentBuyable%7c1%7c%7cpParentGrossMargin%7c1%7c%7cpSortName%7c0%7c%7cpLaunchDate%7c1
Quote from: tobiasberlin on July 14, 2014, 07:00:32 AM
Has anyone yet made experiences how to get into Ratatouille using the Disabled Priority Card? Is it he same procedure as at all the other rides (which means you ENTER the ride throught the EXIT and go straight to the Loading Zone....)
HI Tobiasberlin, I thought I'd respond to your query just in case you haven't visited yet. I visited last week, the ride is simply incredible we went on at least twice a day! We entered the ride via the Fast Track entrance, you then walk along the corridor, pick up your 3D glasses and when you reach the turnstile a Cast Member will show you the area for Disabled Priority Card holders. There can only be one Disability car in the attraction at any one time so if there are already guests on the ride you will get shown into your little Ratmobile to wait until they have exited. Enjoy!
Is it true that fastpass wasnt working two days ago? A friend told me it wasnt open and also that it was closed today with a wait of two Hours. Were they to late or was it really closed?
I REALLY hope fastpass is open when I go. I don't fancy waiting for two hours aaa :/
My friend has just returned from her first visit to DLP (12-15th), she also said fastpass was closed and she queued for 3 hours!!! as much as I want to ride Ratatouille I won't be waiting that long. EMH is in the studios during our visit, hopefully it will be open.
I hope fastpass will work when im there next month. And otherwise we will try single riders line. Its just me and my mom and we wont mind if we wont be in the samen "rat"
Rode the ride four times in two days.
My Top tips:
They open the gates to the park at 9.30, so be early.
Head straight through and head for the Backlot tour - straight in front of you. There are two small signs that point the right direction (the route past crush is closed early in the day)
Turn right and you will see a set of barriers for the queue. They let groups in until the area fills up.
If you are in the front - ride it straight away. We got in within 5 minutes and the ride had started operation at 9.30.
we then rode as single riders (wait time was only 5 minutes)
The fast pass tickets were given out from a trolley next to the entrance to Toy storyland, next to the Bistro Remy - not from the machines. They went quickly so if you are further back in the queue it may be better to get a fastpass, rather than queue.When you have your fast pass, early in the day you have to return through Toy story, but it seemed to be different each day.Cast members also gave different information about when the fastpasses would be available.
The ride: Is BRILLIANT :)
Just managed 10 rides on this during my visit, and first of all I have to praise the staff for dealing with the morning rush.
At park opening (infact at 9:30) everyone runs to the attraction, although find themselves in a temporary line which is broken up and allowed into the main queue in waves to avoid mayhem outside. It made the whole thing very easy, so well done there!
Fastpass queues in the afternoon were crazy, I just don't get it. Fastpass doesn't always work as it should. The single rider line in the morning works wonders, and the full queue of 60 mins moves fairly well, and didn't bother me.
The ride experience itself for me, didn't quite hit the mark.. There were lots of effects that worked on a few rides, but didn't work on others.. The water splash for example and the rolling trolly wheels seemed to be the culprits.
It is still a great ride, but certainly bombards you with everything and it's a lot to take in. You will need a second ride!
My biggest disappointment was watching people filming it with their phones, missing all the surrounding elements, looking straight ahead at the screens, and even completely missing the oven scene (which without question needs more heat)
Over all a great addition, but just makes the backlot area of the park feel even worse!! Please WDS it's time to fix this park now, and adding new rides certainly helps, but it will never fix it until the park's infrastructure has changed (and Armageddon has gone)!
Quote from: Fever on September 06, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
Just managed 10 rides on this during my visit, and first of all I have to praise the staff for dealing with the morning rush.
At park opening (infact at 9:30) everyone runs to the attraction, although find themselves in a temporary line which is broken up and allowed into the main queue in waves to avoid mayhem outside. It made the whole thing very easy, so well done there!
Fastpass queues in the afternoon were crazy, I just don't get it. Fastpass doesn't always work as it should. The single rider line in the morning works wonders, and the full queue of 60 mins moves fairly well, and didn't bother me.
The ride experience itself for me, didn't quite hit the mark.. There were lots of effects that worked on a few rides, but didn't work on others.. The water splash for example and the rolling trolly wheels seemed to be the culprits.
It is still a great ride, but certainly bombards you with everything and it's a lot to take in. You will need a second ride!
My biggest disappointment was watching people filming it with their phones, missing all the surrounding elements, looking straight ahead at the screens, and even completely missing the oven scene (which without question needs more heat)
Over all a great addition, but just makes the backlot area of the park feel even worse!! Please WDS it's time to fix this park now, and adding new rides certainly helps, but it will never fix it until the park's infrastructure has changed (and Armageddon has gone)!
I second that , please disney fix wdsp up the way it should be ..
Just adding my 2 cents, as we recently (Christmas season) went on Ratatouille for the first time.
First impressions are brilliant, the theming of the mini "land" is brilliant, plush and oppulant. Very nicely designed and it encorages you to want to spend more time tehre. Lots of cool photo opps (my kids particularly liked the mopeds and motorbikes, I lveod the design of the fountain. The shop was cool and the restaurant theming was brilliant (didn't eat there, but checked it out). The queing area of the ride was really nice, very atmospheric, and I loved the music. I hope its from the film soundtrack as I want to track down a copy of it, its been stuck in my head ever since and I onl;y have about 20 seconds of it on our home video.
The ride itself is... good. Make that very good, but not perfect. Upon us all riding it the first time, we were all of the opinion that it was too short, but upon further rides this changed slightly. Its certainly more impressive than Snow White or Pinnochio, probably up there with Peter Pan, but nowhere near as long or as "epic" feeling than Pirates of the Carribean. My personal feeling is that I would have liked far less prjection and more animatronics. I was hoping for some cool scenes of multiple audio-animatronic mice.
However, there is definitely a lot to like. The overall design of the sequences is great, and the animation and sound are of course exceptional, as you'd expect of Disney/Pixar. The 3D works far better than Captain EO (the only other 3D thing in the parks that was open at the time) and the few pracatical effects such as the wheels of the cart and the heat of the cooker worked really well. My favourite part is the bit right near the begining where you move down towards the roof of the building - I definitely got some vertigo the first time and the 3d effect was very believable.
I understand that many people aren't keen on the Studios Park. I don't agree - many of my family's favourite attractions are there (Tower of Terror, Animagique, Cinemagique, Art of Animation, Crush's Coaster, Studio Tram Tour, Stitch Live, Moteurs Action, Disney Jr...) and there are some really cool themeing touches (Toy Story Playland, Radiator Springs, Studio One, the area around the Hollywood Tower Hotel, the Earful Tower, the Sorceror's Hat...). Sure, it doesn't have the landscaping of the main Park, but surely a "studio" park doesn't need that - does Florida's Hollywood Studios have significantly more varied layout? Sure certain areas need improving or replacing entirely (Armageddon is pretty rubbish, I agree) but there is definitely a lot to like at the park. Incidentally, the shops are also larger and less crowded than the main park - we do most of our shopping there.
In my opinion, Studios park keeps getting better - expanding and getting more like a "full" park, and I definitely feel that the whole Ratatouille area really helps that progression. I 100% approve. Now I'd like a "real" dark ride, and maybe an expansion of the "meet spiderman" area to a mini Marvel area. Add Muppetvision 3D and I'd be extactic!
The studios isn't bad, it just has bad bits in it that let the whole park down.
Armageddon.
The studios tour (we know what it used to be like, it would be interesting to know opinions of people riding it for the first time).
There's lots of open space that looks as though there should be something in it. There's lots of places where things are crammed in on top of each other too.
I definitely agree about the open spaces & layout issues, but I imagine that a lot of this will get improved by the extra money & attention to detail afforded by the recent restructuring. Its clearly a park still in development (or at least expanding) but this does fit with the movie studio lot feel... (Having spent a lot of time in real film studios, stuff is always fluid & spaces are regularly repurposed).
As for the tram tour, we first went on it in 2011 and you could tell that bits were missing by the video commentary talking about stuff that is not there, (the costume section for example) and occasionally when we visit certain effects are missing from Calamity Canyon, but as a family it's definitely in our top 5 attractions. We go on it many times every holiday. The fact you can just sit in a bus (Don't care what anyone says, it's not a 'tram'!) and ride through various cool looking, large scale sets is just really cool! In our last trip, the video & sound systems were vastly improved, so at least the major problems of our visit before were fixed. Sure, a new video and some new props to see along the way would be very welcome, but we still really enjoy it & my kids seem to never get bored of it. If we spend a day in the studios they'll always ask to go on it at least once in daylight & once in the dark... It's also sparked a a real interest for them into Dinotopia and Reign of Fire... (Thankfully not Pearl Harbour!)
I really enjoy the "tram tour" as well, I've ridden it about a dozen times and it's never boring, it gets my imagination fired up. I especially love the London scene. I've never ridden it in the dark, I might give that a go next time.
I do seem to recall a time when it passed a building where people could be seen making costumes or is that just a strange dream I once had! :o
Quote from: Ruby Dawn on July 09, 2015, 04:37:54 PM
I really enjoy the "tram tour" as well, I've ridden it about a dozen times and it's never boring, it gets my imagination fired up. I especially love the London scene. I've never ridden it in the dark, I might give that a go next time.
I do seem to recall a time when it passed a building where people could be seen making costumes or is that just a strange dream I once had! :o
Nope your not dreaming, there was a Costuming Department that the tram would go past, however I think either the route was changed or the building was demolished. However there is a sign that still marks where the building was.
I do like the soundtrack fro the Studio Tram Tour, very calming.
The costuming department is still there, it's hidden by the Parisian street decor in the Place de Remy. If I remember right it's behind the Chez Marianne shop
Anyone know why the water effects on this ride are so hit and miss? The mop, and champagne effects seem to get me every 1, out of 3 rides. Additionally, the heat effect and scent need to be far more apparent. If you didn't know they were there, then you's miss them completely.
Quote from: Fever on September 08, 2015, 01:53:21 AM
Anyone know why the water effects on this ride are so hit and miss? The mop, and champagne effects seem to get me every 1, out of 3 rides. Additionally, the heat effect and scent need to be far more apparent. If you didn't know they were there, then you's miss them completely.
I would definitely agree with this. Out of the 4 times that I rode, I think I actually felt the spray of the champagne bottle once. Didn't really feel anything from the heat either.