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[davewasbaloo]

Look again, it is not much smaller than the one for the opening gate. Also bear in mind that DHS is 1/3rd the size of the Magic Kingdom, and WDSP is 1/4 of the size of DLP.

[dagobert]

Since Disney purchased Marvel, I can imagine that SHDL will get a movie park where Marvel attractions could be built. Such a movie park will never be a s big as a Magic Kingdom style park.

[dagobert]

According to Screamscape.com a Marvel land will not be featured in the new park. I hope this is true, because I think Marvel shouldn't be part of a Magic Kingdom style park, even if it has a completly new design. I don't mind to see Marvel based rides in a Studios park, but I'm also not sure about a whole Marvel park.

http://www.screamscape.com/html/shanghai_disneyland.htm

[|Q|]

i don't understand why marvel characters, that are from comics, should be into some kind of movie park. just nitpcking, but yet... ^__^'

[davewasbaloo]

Have you not seen the Spiderman movies, Xmen, Iron Man, Hulk, Daredevil, Elektra or indeed Ghost Rider? Also Thor and Captain America come out this year. They are all awesome movies.

[|Q|]

In my original post i said "just nitpicking", but i spelled it horribly wrong cause i was way too drunk, sorry ^__^"

anyway, looking at marvel characters from that perspective, snow white, alice and peter pan should be in the studio, then. The point is that it would be the cheapest way to face the theme. it's obvious that many of you don't like the idea of marvel-based stuff in disney parks, but i think that would be better for all (since, obviously, they are coming) if it's done in a good and not cheap way. shoving them in a studio just because they made movies from them it's plain lck of imaginaton, i'd be really disappointed. of course, putting them in a "traditional" magic kingdom it's not good either (a là buzz in discoveryland), but we already know shangai it's some kind of different, mysterious beast

(a little OT, i'd love an "heroes" based third gate in paris, where you enter in new york city, then have a distopic future land -with giant sentinels from the x-men - a mythic area with stuff like the olympus and asgard. in Italy we even have disney-branded superheroes, like superpippo -goofy- and paperinik -donald =)

[Josh]

It seems we're going to have the big, official unveiling announcement on 8th April.

[JelleP]

Great! Will there be a live stream or something so everyone can watch it on the World Wide Web?

[Josh]

I'm not sure. I'm only repeating what was said on Disney and More.

http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/ ... yland.html

[JelleP]

Well, if there is one, he'll post it on Disney and More I guess ;-)

[|Q|]

I've found an article on the NY Times, not many infos, they won't release an attraction list (they're learning for their new Apple connections, I think , but there's a new concept art, and is not cloudy like the last one.

 Here's the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/busin ... isney.html

Notable quote:
"Shanghai's Disneyland, for instance, will not feature a Main Street-theme entrance, a staple of every other Disney resort. (The Main Street areas are designed to reflect Walt Disney's idyllic childhood in a Missouri town at the turn of the 20th century.) Instead, guests will enter through a lush 11-acre area featuring water and trees, where they will be greeted by costumed characters, Mr. Iger said. The castle will be Disney's biggest."

And here goes the concept art:


It almost looks like as Fantasyland is in front of the castle.

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Two more artworks from the Disney Parks Blog:

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2 ... ey-resort/

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Ok, my two cents on what i think it's represented in the artwork, then i'm heading to bed for real.
Comparing this:


to this:


We see clearly in the front of the area the big entrance plaza that was clearly hinted in the first über-blurry artwork. Right on it left (labeled "commercial facilities") the shopping area, that i think really looks like some kind of "Main Street" style area.

Right of the entrance esplanade there's tht really big woods area with blue roofs that at first i thought was some kind of jungle/adventureland area, but from the map looks like it will be some kind of hotel.

In front of the esplanade there's the non-Main-Street entrance, and from both renderings i think really looks like some kind of Fantasyland, in a set up more similar to WDW's Fantasyland forest, than a traditional "village" Fantasyland. From the first rendering i've posted you can see clearly some kind of Dumbo spinner and a caroussel. Closer to the Castle's entrance there a more village like area. I was looking to locate the Seven Dwarves coaster that was said to be part of the park, but i cannot see anything that may look like it.

Just right of this area (and north of the forest hotel) i think that's Adventureland, with the "Splash Pirates" mountain (the only other thing that was pretty clear from the first concept art). The light brown roofs on its left looks like some kind of african area, but that's just wild guessing.

North of the castle, most hard area to read, it's a lot of green with what looks like wooden roofs. Could this be Frontierland? (far west is popular enought in china? but at least would be a land that's not featured in Hong Kong).

West of the castle, it looks for sure futuristic, so it could be some kind of Tomorrowland, with that big dome being a Space Mountain kind of attraction. In this area, from the map, should be also located the second hotel (anyway, the article talks about 2 hotels, while the map indentifies 4 hotel areas)

Also, looks like no train this time, and since there's no Main Street, looks like there won't be any kind of transportation inside the park, that would be pretty weird i think (but in Tokyo is not much different, since the train is all inside Westernland, am i wrong?)

Comeon, don't be shy and join wild guessing. It's fun m/

 Q

[dagobert]

Thanks |Q| for the pictures and informations.

Here's the castle:


It looks like the Cinderella castle at WDW and TDL, but altered a bit. I like the new castle, but I'm glad that it will not be as magical as DLRP's castle.



It really seems, like |Q| has already mentioned, that the castle will be behind Fantasyland. Since the park will have no Main Street, maybe Disney replaced Main Street and Central Plaza with Fantasyland. It makes sense, because guests will enter the park through an area with water and trees, it will be a perfect transition into Fantasyland.

I'm really excited about the new park and I'm sure HKDL will feel a little bit betrayed by TWDC. SHDL can't be compared with HK, it's so much more elaborate and offers more.

[dagobert]

Here's the official press release from TWDC:

 DISNEY AND PARTNERS BREAK GROUND ON SHANGHAI DISNEY RESORT

First Disney theme park to be built in mainland China

SHANGHAI (April 8, 2011) - The Walt Disney Company and Shanghai Shendi Group, its joint venture partner in China, have broken ground on the Shanghai Disney Resort following approval from the Chinese central government in Beijing. Both companies marked the start of construction on the first Disney resort in mainland China at a groundbreaking ceremony held earlier today.

"Today marks a significant milestone in the history of The Walt Disney Company," said Robert A. Iger, President and CEO of The Walt Disney Company. "Our Shanghai resort will be a world-class family vacation destination that combines classic Disney characters and storytelling with the uniqueness and beauty of China. Working with our Chinese partners, the Shanghai Disney Resort will be both authentically Disney and distinctly Chinese."

"We're incredibly excited to build a Disney resort in Shanghai, one of the world's most vibrant cities," said Thomas O. Staggs, Chairman of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts. "We are hard at work designing Shanghai Disneyland, which when complete will be a special place where guests of all ages will discover a world of imagination, creativity, adventure and thrills."

Today's groundbreaking ceremony paid homage to the culture and people of China. Traditional Chinese drum music, a female soloist singing in Mandarin, a 50-voice Shanghai children's choir and Mickey Mouse dressed in a traditional Chinese costume were on hand to mark this special occasion. Following the entertainment and remarks, Iger and Staggs were joined by Shanghai Party Secretary Yu Zhengsheng and Shanghai Mayor Han Zheng to officially break ground on the project.

The new Shanghai Disney Resort is slated to open in approximately five years.

The Shanghai Disney Resort will be home to Shanghai Disneyland, a Magic Kingdom-style park that will blend classic Disney storytelling and characters with all-new attractions and experiences tailored specifically for the people of China. The park will feature several themed lands complete with exciting, iconic Disney attractions and experiences. At the heart of the park will be an interactive Disney castle that is truly an attraction unto itself with entertainment, dining and performance experiences that will be unique to Shanghai Disneyland. The park will also contain other large-scale entertainment venues, indoor and out, that can be used for various purposes throughout the year.

A beautiful, 11 acre (46,130 square meter) green space at the center of the theme park will differentiate Shanghai Disneyland and reinforce the themes of sustainability and nature that will be integrated throughout the park. The space will also be a place where friends and family can enjoy local cultural celebrations and customs together.

On Opening Day, the Shanghai Disney Resort will be located on a 963 acre (3.9 square kilometer) site in Pudong, Shanghai, with additional room to expand in the future. At opening, the resort will include Shanghai Disneyland, two themed hotels, a large retail, dining and entertainment venue, recreational facilities, a lake and associated parking and transportation hubs.

There will be an initial investment in the project of approximately 24.5 billion yuan (US$3.7 billion) to build the theme park and an additional 4.5 billion yuan (US$0.7 billion) to build the other aspects of the resort, including the hotels and the retail, dining and entertainment area. The investment amounts will be split between Disney and the Shanghai Shendi Group with Disney holding 43% of the shares of the owner companies and the Shanghai Shendi Group holding the remaining 57%. Financing will be proportional to ownership. In addition, a joint venture management company will be formed with Disney having a 70% stake and Shanghai Shendi Group having a 30% stake. The management company will be responsible for creating, developing and operating the resort.

About Shanghai Shendi Group
Shanghai Shendi (Group) Co., Ltd. is a 100% state-owned, joint venture investment holding company formed by three sponsors - Shanghai Lujiazui (Group) Co., Ltd., Shanghai Radio, Film and Television Development Co., Ltd., and Jinjiang International Group Holding Company. Shanghai Shendi (Group) Co., Ltd. is involved in project investment, construction, and operation through two full subsidiaries: Shanghai Shendi Tourism and Resort Development Co., Ltd. and Shanghai Shendi Construction Co., Ltd.

About The Walt Disney Company China
The Walt Disney Company (NYSE:DIS), together with its subsidiaries and affiliates, is a diversified international family entertainment enterprise with five business segments and is a Dow 30 company with revenues of nearly $38 billion in its most recently reported fiscal year. Disney's first animation screened in China in the 1930s and today our long association continues with offices in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou with over 1000 employees. The Company has a broad range of businesses including publishing, broadcast, mobile, web, retail and its English language program, Disney English, which launched in 2008. Nearly 24 hours of Disney television programming is now available in China every week, reaching 300-360 million people each month. In September 2005, Disney opened its doors to its first theme park in China, Hong Kong Disneyland.

About Walt Disney Parks and Resorts
Walt Disney Parks and Resorts are where dreams come true. More than 50 years ago, Walt Disney created a new kind of entertainment families could experience together, immersed in detailed atmospheres and vibrant storytelling. His vision now includes a collection of five of the world's leading family vacation destinations $#8211 Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, Calif.; Walt Disney World Resort, Lake Buena Vista, Fla.; Tokyo Disney Resort, Urayasu, Chiba, Japan; Disneyland Paris, Marne-la-Vall?e, France; and Hong Kong Disneyland Resort, located on Lantau Island. In addition, Walt Disney Parks and Resorts includes the world-class Disney Cruise Line; Disney Vacation Club; Adventures by Disney, a guided group vacation experience to some of the world's most popular destinations; and Walt Disney Imagineering, which creates and designs all Disney parks, resorts and attractions

http://corporate.disney.go.com/news/cor ... nghai.html

[dagobert]

According to the official press release, it seems Disney is going the same way to operate SHDL, like they are doing with DLRP.

TWDC will hold 43% of the owner company, can be compared with Euro Disney SCA (39.8%), but will have a 70% legal ownership in the operating company, can be compared with Euro Disney Associes SCA (51%).

This time Disney is really interested in having a successful resort and it seems they learned from their mistakes in Paris with opening too many hotels.

[dagobert]

Here is the official Shanghai Disneyland Resort website:

http://en.shanghaidisneyresort.com.cn/en/

Here you can find a fact sheet:
http://en.shanghaidisneyresort.com.cn/m ... -sheet.pdf