The logo for next year's theme has been revealed on Disney Central Plaza, via DLRP Express:
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So what's rumoured to be new:
- New hub show with Sorcerer Mickey, one time a day
- Characters Express once again re-used
- Mickey's House from Hong Kong Disneyland inside Festival Stage
- Permanent princess meet 'n' greet location in "it's a small world" post show
Again, these are just rumours for now. More information soon. :thumbs:
Must say that I like the logo. :-)
I don't. At all. It's neither here nor there. It's six stock images in a stock shape. How many exhaustive minutes have gone into this?
What is that typeface? Gotham, the Obama font? Why? Why put a 1930s-style modernist typeface in shiny golden ornamentation? What is the message here?
Every year I think it can't possibly get worse...
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This really is the worst thing anyone has ever done, ever.
As I said a while ago, I'm relieved that they use more "classic" colors this time. Not that I'm a fan of the logo, but it will likely have a less harsh visual impact in the park than, say, MMP and NGF.
Quote from: "pussinboots"What is that typeface? Gotham, the Obama font? Why? Why put a 1930s-style modernist typeface in shiny golden ornamentation? What is the message here?
My guess is they're trying to ride on the Pixar wave with that (y'know, grotesque font with 3D effects.... if it got Pixar 1 billion dollars, why not us?). It's not exactly the face that says "magical," that's for sure.
Quote from: "pussinboots"This really is the worst thing anyone has ever done, ever.
Hmm, I disagree. I'd nominate the old hyperactive Disneyland Resort Paris logo... Three words in three typefaces doing all kinds of crazy stuff with a few effects thrown in... So maybe it's just that I'm glad that they went back to the simpler DLP logo, but this one doesn't horrify me.
I rather like the new festival Logo. Again, shame Woody isn't in there, and it's rather bizarre choice of other characters in there (Hook, the White Rabbit and Pumba?!).
I don't like the resort Logo though. That banner just looks...... Wrong.
What's Mickey's House from HK Disneyland? Is it like Mickey's Country House at WDW?
Quote from: "RiverRogue"As I said a while ago, I'm relieved that they use more "classic" colors this time. Not that I'm a fan of the logo, but it will likely have a less harsh visual impact in the park than, say, MMP and NGF.
Possibly, although we haven't seen the visual impact yet... If they stick to fabric banners on lamp posts and don't give in to their enormous urge to get creative with fiberglass, I suppose it might be a real improvement.
QuoteMy guess is they're trying to ride on the Pixar wave with that (y'know, grotesque font with 3D effects.... if it got Pixar 1 billion dollars, why not us?). It's not exactly the face that says "magical," that's for sure.
Yes, and that brings me to my other beef with these things — how they're trying to somehow glue Buzz Lightyear and Jiminy Cricket and Princess Tiana together and sell it as a single package. During the 5th anniversary, they picked one film (The Hunchback of Notre Dame) and went home with that look and feel. So you had a nice medieval year where everything had jester's hats. Now they're trying to cover all their bases at once, resulting in these odd sort of festivities that are both everything at once and nothing in particular. I don't know how to feel when I see this stuff.
Well, there is one association that pops up. You're obviously a very keen-eyed graphic designer. Surely — and you will sense my desperation to get you to agree with me — you will get what I mean when I say the blue ribbon looks like it belongs on an American supermarket product with an indefinite shelf life.
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QuoteHmm, I disagree. I'd nominate the old hyperactive Disneyland Resort Paris logo... Three words in three typefaces doing all kinds of crazy stuff with a few effects thrown in... So maybe it's just that I'm glad that they went back to the simpler DLP logo, but this one doesn't horrify me.
Ha. I came across the "RESORT PARIS" part of that logo on a graphic design agency's portfolio a while ago. I forgot which one, but it was British and very high-profile.
And as nice as the simpler Disneyland Paris logo is, giving it 147 3D effects rather diminishes its merits.
QuoteWhat's Mickey's House from HK Disneyland? Is it like Mickey's Country House at WDW?
A bit similar. But while Mickey's Country House at WDW is a permanent structure. Mickey's House from Hong Kong is just a bunch of detail sets and scenes themed to look like his house. See links below for a few promotional pictures.
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I don't dislike the image or the idea of yearly events. Since it keeps things fresh. But why call it a Festival. Would Disney's Magical Moments not be more suitable and Disney like. Also how many years are they going to recyle that train.
Still I welcome both a new hub show for the park and Mickey's House. But will be interesting to see what gets passed off as new for next year.
Super Nice logos! :D I like the idea they are bringing the sourcerer in the theme this year! :thumbs:
You see I don't mind the new logo, I can see where they are going with it! I think they are going with the DVD/blu-ray releases. Princess & the Frog is the newest classic release, Fantasia is the next release after beauty and the beast in November and Lion king is the one after that! Toy story 3 is being released for Christmas and I dunno about Hook or the White rabbit, perhaps they are re-releasing Peter Pan and Alice in Wonderland next year! But I like it!
Mason :D
Im not against the logo it just doesn't really excite me that much, another festival, somewhere under all those banners is a park that hasnt had a chance to stand on its own for a while now. I just wonder if year after year of "special" events isnt just getting a bit much. Still I guess I'll just have to wait and see
Here's the logo with only Sorcerer Mickey. I like it! It has a very 15th Anniversary look to it.
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Does anyone else starting singing that really annoying 'Magic Moments' song when they see this logo :P
Quote from: "pussinboots"Yes, and that brings me to my other beef with these things — how they're trying to somehow glue Buzz Lightyear and Jiminy Cricket and Princess Tiana together and sell it as a single package. During the 5th anniversary, they picked one film (The Hunchback of Notre Dame) and went home with that look and feel. So you had a nice medieval year where everything had jester's hats. Now they're trying to cover all their bases at once, resulting in these odd sort of festivities that are both everything at once and nothing in particular. I don't know how to feel when I see this stuff.
Agreed. As far as "themes" go, this one is definitely the most vague they could find... A kind of one size fits all. But that might not be a bad thing in the case of DLP, as in theory it allows a multitude of sub-themes which could be adapted to the existing park themes. (Well, okay, in an ideal world it would.) NGF, no matter how you turn it, doesn't have its place in a Victorian-era small town or 1940s Hollywood. "Magical Moments" just might be generic enough to fit in.
But I do see your point, and I don't think my above paragraph was at all what they had in mind when they developed this...
Quote from: "pussinboots"Surely — and you will sense my desperation to get you to agree with me — you will get what I mean when I say the blue ribbon looks like it belongs on an American supermarket product with an indefinite shelf life.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Actually, those banners are
better than the MMF ones.....
I don't know, maybe I'm just getting immune to all those atrocities.
QuoteAnd as nice as the simpler Disneyland Paris logo is, giving it 147 3D effects rather diminishes its merits.
Ah, but now imagine those same effects plus the banner applied to the old logo! Heh...
Ok, I think the logo with just Mickey is alot better. Though the overall design is poor.
I'm excited about the new show with Sorcerer Mickey, he looks great in his Sorcerer outfit and it's a shame we dont see much of it over here. I'm rather confused about the Mickeys house in the Festival Stage.
Finnaly, calling this a festival is totally unessecery. Why can't it just be called Magical Moments? Sounds soo much better.
Why Is Everyone Being So Negative????? I Love the look of it!!! And Besides, No Matter What Festival Is on, it will still be disneyland!! All the reasons you go there year upon year will still be there!! Its Disneyland!
as a big mickey fan im excited about mickeys house and good to see the festival stage area used at last
The logos do look naff and I bet the same could be said about the whole 'festival' when we see it next year. Doesn't surprise me at all to be honest! :lol:
I still remain hopeful that the 20th will be special. I've always been hoping that these weak theme years are just a way to attract guests and save money for a good 20th.
Quote from: "disneyparkfans"Why Is Everyone Being So Negative?????
Word of advice - that's one thing you probably don't wanna say around here!! Simple statements like that have turned into big arguments before, so in future it's probably best to just say what you think without being too overly optimistic and without saying other people are 'negative'. Just letting you know! :thumbs: ;)
Not a huge fan of the logo myself, even though it does reminds me of the 15th logo an awful lot. It seems like an odd mix-match of characters, they really want Princess Tina to get into the "elite league" of princesses I call it :P
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I know it's just a rumour, buy are they ever going to give that thing a rest? How many times has it been re-themed now, 3 or 4?
QuoteI still remain hopeful that the 20th will be special. I've always been hoping that these weak theme years are just a way to attract guests and save money for a good 20th.
Seems like a plausible idea, attract more guess with low budget 'celebrations' in order to beef up the cash for the 20th. If that is the management's reasoning behind then fair enough, just hold back on this again for a while.
Quote from: "disneyparkfans"Why Is Everyone Being So Negative????? I Love the look of it!!! And Besides, No Matter What Festival Is on, it will still be disneyland!! All the reasons you go there year upon year will still be there!! Its Disneyland!
Only on a reduce scale. I can think of several other Disneyland's around the world that I would rather visit than this park. The Festivals are always poorly planned and lack any creativity. When you visit a Disneyland year after year, sometimes you just want to see something new and different. And since the company can't aford any E Tickets its down to the yearly events. So I don't blame people for taking a negative view when the quality offered by the New Generation or Mickey's Magical Party events fail to provide much of a new experience.
anyone have any idea of the exact start date for this?
Quote- Characters Express once again re-used
I know it's just a rumour, buy are they ever going to give that thing a rest? How many times has it been re-themed now, 3 or 4?
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I like the Character express, its a great way of
knowing where and when you can join a mad, unorganised scrum with the added bonus of being pushed aside by a Spanish tourist (sorry spanish members - not all of you are like this, just 100% of the one's I've queued with).
If they didn't retheme it to fit, there would be complaints that they were still using the old theme.
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I like the fact DLP has themed years. It is one of the elements that I look out for when I visit. I first went to DLP in 2007 when it was the 15th anniversary and just thought the theme added to the experience. The Magical Moments Festival sounds great to me because when I visit next may, it will be for my honeymoon!!
As for the logos, I think there ok. They could be a bit more exciting, however I agree with breeno, that they could be saving the best ideas for the 20th anniversary.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I have the idea in my head (not sure where I heard it from) that it can sometimes be cheaper for guests (particularly from the UK) to go to WDW as opposed to DLP. Becuase of this, I think DLP tries to attract them by hosting the themed years.
The theme years are, I think being used alot in the parks because the parks are losing money. I personally think that DLRP should wait until the 20th Anniversary to do a theme year but it is their choice. If they are planning the Magical Moments Festival then they could do with some more shows and maybe spread it out into the studios so it is not just the Disneyland Park that is themed. I personally love the themed years because it makes my time in DLRP more special and more atmospheric but I have to agree that a themed year each year is a bit too much.
I wonder if we will ever see an advert on the TV advertising JUST the resort, not the themed year or special offers. I miss those type of adverts, the ones they use nowadays (especially the one for the New Generation Festival) are just awful. I hope the adverts for the Magical Moments Festival can showcase how beautiful the resort is.
Mickey only logo, ok. Multiple character logo, odd - very strange mix of characters. Small logo, bad - looks very amateurish.
I'm a mickey fan so i like the idea of the house and the use of sorcerer Mickey :)
I also like that the train is rethemed each year to match the rest of the theming, it makes it more exciting for me knowing that when i go each year, the meet and greet characters on the train will be different and the show being different etc :) i enjoy seeing a different theme each time... I just hope the theme for 20th anniversary will really shine through and be something spectacular compared to these kind of mini themed years like MMP, new gen and this new one :)
[quote="once.upon.a.dream] I just hope the theme for 20th anniversary will really shine through and be something spectacular compared to these kind of mini themed years like MMP, new gen and this new one :)[/quote]
Thats my biggest concern,I realy hope the 20th stands out and doesnt get diluted by all the preceeding festivals
Quote from: "smurfy74"anyone have any idea of the exact start date for this?
Anyone have any idea? It's normally March/April time when the seasons start isn't it?
Quote from: "DisneyBud"Quote from: "smurfy74"anyone have any idea of the exact start date for this?
Anyone have any idea? It's normally March/April time when the seasons start isn't it?
I guess it will be something like that, indeed!
Has there been any news on what will be new ride wise? I can't recall anything that will be ready next year i.e. not Ratatouille!
It will be interesting to see if they will try and base the whole year on new shows and things such as the new princess area, with no rides. Perhaps Captain EO will be one of the key attractions?
I enjoy each year being themed, it keeps each time we go a little different from every other (plus it gives me a different pin to buy each year!) I wonder if the parade and the fireworks will be the same, I imagine they'll stay Dream Parade and Enchanted fireworks now until the 20th anniversary, but they could do with a change now!
I also agree, the logos do look really good but I feel like its just yet again another extention of Mickey's Magical Party and The Next Generation Festival, maybe DLRP could just go back to having full and detailed seasons through out the year like in 2005 with Magic Unlimited, then Kids Carnival, then Summer Hallowenn Bonfire and Christmas because I thought that made DLRP unique compared to the american promotions that seem to be contaminating the parks. I REALLY like the idea of the new character meet and greets though and of cause Sorcerer Mickey!
Quote from: "Columbiad"Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I have the idea in my head (not sure where I heard it from) that it can sometimes be cheaper for guests (particularly from the UK) to go to WDW as opposed to DLP. Becuase of this, I think DLP tries to attract them by hosting the themed years.
I can't imagine that's the case, in my experience book in advance, with Eurostar and off resort you can get a full week at DLP for the price of the flights to WDW!
I think it's more a case of DLP keeping themselves fresh and marketable - unlike other parks they're not in a position to keep pumping money into new attractions to pull in the crowds.
But if you dont live any where near Eurostar, a 2 week holiday in good accomodation in Florida is cheaper than 2 weeks at equivalent accomodation at DLP. I love DLP but for a proper holiday rather than a short break Florida is better value.
I don't know why British people always look at Eurostar as if it's exclusive to the south...it isn't! We have a pretty good rail network in the UK, with dirt cheap tickets in advance. Someone who lives in, say, Glasgow, could get an early train to London, have the day in the City, sleep over for a night in a cheap hotel near St Pancras and then catch the Eurostar in the morning, with all this roughly the same price as just the flights to Orlando!
Doing a quick search online for prices, in this example 2 adults from Glasgow to Disneyland Paris for 2 weeks from the 15th to the 29th November.
- Train from Glasgow to London = £100 each
- Hotel stay in London = £30 per room
- Eurostar there and back, and hotel accommodation for 2 weeks in Torcy = £312 each
- Annual Passports = £189 each
Total = £661 each
Now from Glasgow to Orlando for 2 adults, same dates
- Flights from Glasgow to Orlando = £519 each (only that cheap due to 3 changes and 21 hour flight!)
.....
If you can find accomodation and park tickets for 2 weeks in Orlando for £150 each...i'm missing something!
Now in terms of what Orlando has to offer, yes there is a lot more to do, but in terms of going to either Disney park from anywhere in the United Kingdom? Disneyland Paris will always be cheaper thanks to the price of trans-atlantic airfare!
Haven't been around for a while, so this is all new to me! I'm not very fond of the logo, but I'm curious what they'll make of this theme. Magical moments isn't very specific, so they can do all sorts of things.
I'm a little bummed that I missed all the NGF shows though. Since nothing could go on during my last visit (because of constant pouring rain), and I don't have any money to go back before march. Ah well, you can't have it all!
Next Year's Magical Moments Brochure for spring has been released!
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Here's some interesting points from it...
New Happening : Following the leader with Peter Pan
New Meet and Greet Photolocation: Adventureland rhythms of the jungle.
New 3D photolocation: Smile and say "cheese" with Remy and Emile.
New 3D photolocation: Share the Love with Wall-e and Eve.
New Hub show : « Mickey's Magical Celebration » (featuring princes and princesses)
New happening : Disney Dance Express (obviously the All Stars Express)
New Meet Rapunzel
New Meet and Greet Photolocation : The wonderful world of Alice and the Madd Hatter.
New : Meet Green Army Men and Play
New interactive show stop in Disney's Once Upon a Dream parade.
New Disney Princesses : A Royal Invitation (former IASW post show)
LIghtening McQueen in Moteurs... Action!
Also, the summer season will run from 9th of July to the 4th of September!
'Share the Love' 3D photo location being the Wall-E and Eve statues I assume, do you suppose the 3D photo location for Remy and Emile will be a statue too?
Wow. None of that sounds all that bad. Loving the emphasis on happenings and events. Not sure about Lightning McQueen in Moteurs...Action!....
Thanks for the catalogue. I wonder when Disney will stop using photoshop to create their brochures. They should definately hire an advertising or travel company to create the catalogues.
I was getting excited when I saw the Lion King characters in the brochure, because I thought Disney will bring back the Lion King show. Unfortunately it is just another meet and greet.
Looking forward to how the Cars characters in the Moteurs... Action-show are going to be...
I would have liked more pictures from the park in the brochure.
I agree that more pictures of the actual park are needed, but I think that this is the best catalogue so far. Some beautiful spreads, and all very magical and classic. A welcome change to the contemporary New Gneration Festival and gaudy MMP. :)
Having looked through the brochure, next year is going to be a difficult one for the park. Clearly, there are no new rides next year, other thank marketing TSPL as new, which is going to affect the decision to book or not. I am surprised that they did not mention (as far as I can see) Captain EO to boost the offering.
It will be interesting to see how the visitor numbers are affected by this.
Roll on 2012 - back to new rides (hopefully)!
Photoshopped images more like the banner of this site (the Christmas promo images) simply heighten the experience of the parks. The brochure does seem a bit dramatic in the placing of attractions, buildings and characters. Can't say I'm a massive fan of the logo either. Seems really quite basic. Not the kind of thing I'd like to see on merchandise etc.
I do like all the events though. The photolocations and smaller experiences do sound similar in concept to those hinted at once upon a time for NGF, but nothing there stands out as atrocious.
I'm guessing the Cars characters in 'Moteurs' will simply replace Herbie or something? Not an awful suggestion. A lot more recognisable for the kids
It seems more than ever that this isn't a brochure for Disneyland Paris but for the Magical Moments Festival, which may or may not be a bad thing, I don't know how the general public respond to this kind of stuff. Maybe, like I said last brochure, these just aren't that important for giving an overview of the parks - what with websites like Photos Magiques having thousands of pictures online.
Beyond the ridiculous photoshop images, the design is actually fantastic. That Tower of Terror page, wow! Why didn't they lead with that in 2008? It's beautiful. Compare it to those awful brochures back in 2003, 2004... they've come a long, long way. But yes, if only DLP could do a special pull-out for people who want more pictures of their holiday destination and not character clip art left over from the Disney Store Christmas catalogue.
I am quite impressed how they've managed to pad out very few new things. Even if we won't have a new land or even a show throughout the day on Central Plaza, there should be a general veneer of new-ness with these various "moments". What concerns me is that Spring/Summer 2012 surely won't bring any new attractions either - why waste a new attraction when it's the 20th? - so it's going to be a long wait until Winter 2012/2013 and the second year of the anniversary. Now you can see why the Toy Story Playland opening was so late in the season, make it seem new for longer.
After seeing what brochures other theme park resorts like Europa Park have, I'm really disappointed with the new brochure.
Anthony, you are right the new catalogues are just for promoting their festivals, but I still think it is done in a bad way. For example WDW and DL had so great and professional brochures about their "The Year of a Million Dreams" or "What will You Celebrate" campaigns.
Maybe it would be better for DLRP to create a catalogue that just promotes the resort and that stays the same each year, except new attractions are added.
And for every new campaign or festival, Disney could publish a small brochure just about the festivities. At least it was that way in the US. There we got a general catalogue about WDW and a small brochure about "The Year of a Million Dreams".
Quote from: "Anthony"What concerns me is that Spring/Summer 2012 surely won't bring any new attractions either - why waste a new attraction when it's the 20th? - so it's going to be a long wait until Winter 2012/2013 and the second year of the anniversary. Now you can see why the Toy Story Playland opening was so late in the season, make it seem new for longer.
Why do you think there won't be a new ride for 2012? Ratatouille?
I think that they are missing a trick not mentioning Earl of Sandwich, as it will open next year. It's nothing big, but it is something new for 2011? On this vein, I would imagine that for 20th/2012, along with Ratatouille and perhaps another smaller ride/restaurant/shop or some theming, they will also emphasise the new World of Disney store (advertising its size - biggest Disney shop in Europe if it is?), as well as the Disney Store and Hurricanes replacements (if they get around to filling Hurricanes!).
Quote from: "Adam"Why do you think there won't be a new ride for 2012? Ratatouille?
Ratatouille won't/wouldn't open until very late in the year or possibly 2013. It definitely won't be included in the brochure we're seeing this time next year, which will purely focus on the 20th Anniversary events/entertainments. Doesn't make financial sense to play both those cards at once.
But thinking again, there's always Star Tours 2 for 2012, isn't there? And other speculation (possibly just fan dreams) about upgrades to Phantom Manor, adding Jack Sparrow to Pirates. A year of upgraded classics. Maybe they'll surprise us.
And hey, back on MMF: this "3D Ratatouille photo location"... where's that going? The new street in WDS? It would be quite clever to have built that during TSPL but promote it as something new for 2011.
i cant see any mention of mickeys house :-(
I had completely forgotten about Mickey's house. How sad, I was looking forward to that!
Quote from: "Anthony"And hey, back on MMF: this "3D Ratatouille photo location"... where's that going? The new street in WDS? It would be quite clever to have built that during TSPL but promote it as something new for 2011.
No, from what I've heard, this new 3D Ratatouille photo location will be near the entrance/exit of Restaurant des Stars where they will built a giant piece of 'cheese' where visitors can stick their heads through and make a picture. At selected times Remy and Emile will be there too. No official word yet on it's location though.
Ah, thanks for the info Tuvok!
This seems to be a recent idea, having meet 'n' greets outside restaurants presumably in the hope of attracting more people inside. Also happens with Jack Sparrow at Blue Lagoon and Aladdin at Agrabah Café. Have to say it's a little disappointing though, given the ready-and-waiting street in Toon Studio. Remy and Emile don't really belong next to Tower of Terror...
Quote from: "Anthony"Ah, thanks for the info Tuvok!
This seems to be a recent idea, having meet 'n' greets outside restaurants presumably in the hope of attracting more people inside. Also happens with Jack Sparrow at Blue Lagoon and Aladdin at Agrabah Café. Have to say it's a little disappointing though, given the ready-and-waiting street in Toon Studio. Remy and Emile don't really belong next to Tower of Terror...
I agree. I also thought they would built a (temporary) meet & greet spot in the Paris-street. It's the ideal setting, but I think they thought it wasn't that nice to have a photo location with those blue fences behind it. The street looks fantastic on one side, but on the other... Where are those giant Paris placemaking decors? They should have come up already.
anyone have any idea what this news show stop for OUADP will be?
I don't like or dislike the new logo, it does seem a strange combination of characters - though like pp said it might be to do with DVD releases. I like the name and I like the fact that there is something a bit new each time. Even if not permanent I think it is great they are doing something with the Festival Stage area, it has been a dead zone for too long, maybe it will tide the gap to the extension of Fantasyland. Also think it will be good to have something after the Small World ride, my daughter will certainly like a Princess Meet'n'Greet. I just wish they would put the big shows on again and do something out by Woody's Roundup - we loved the Tarzan show and it is so sad that there is that huge area where they used to have the animals that has nothing in it.
I can honestly say I'm loving the look of the new brouchure. I feel it has a wonderful dream-like quality mixing the fantasy and the reality.
It also looks like Disney have invested in new character graphics (not the usual clip art) and are really building on the meet & greet element at DLRP.
It makes me want to go back tomorrow - so it must be doing its job!
I have mixed thoughts on the brochure. Like most people here, I don't think it (or any DLP brochure) does enough to show off the beauty and extent of the parks and attractions. They use these photoshop images and a miniscule amount of information in such a way that I think it cheapens the place. It took me years to finally persuade my boyfriend to come in June next year, as he thinks DLP is just for kids and tacky. When he saw this brochure he got worried all over again that there is nothing there for him - that's the message I think the DLP brochure style gives off.
That aside, it IS better than previous offerings. There are no flying children, there are real (if small) pictures of actual attractions, and the hotel pages are the best yet.
And they've made the most of bigging up very little - TSPL will still be new for most guests, and the new "happenings" are welcome additions, in my opinion. Especially the Alice in Wonderland one, I hope the characters are inside the maze and you come upon them unexpectedly that would be great fun!
One last moan or two, the restaurant page is just a giant photoshopped image of the Manhattan Restaurant with a bizarre small Mickey in a chef outfit....couldn't they have used this space with real photos of their best themed restaurants, Agrabah Cafe, Blue Lagoon etc? And a real photo of the Village wouldn't have hurt either.
I love DLP, but wish they'd hire someone new to do their flippin brochures...
Mickeys House is something new I guess but hardly dynamic.
Cant help thinking-what a waste of a great stage space.
I was going through some random videos on youtube of Princess Meet and Greets and came across a few from WDW and DLC and I was wondering do you think that this: //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcRTXWIB4rY would be like the new Princess Meet and greet we are getting for 2011 in the IASW Post-show section?
I didn't get a chance to go to see IASW so I don't know how big the room is at the moment. So...
Quote from: "alternativerock123"I was going through some random videos on youtube of Princess Meet and Greets and came across a few from WDW and DLC and I was wondering do you think that this: //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcRTXWIB4rY would be like the new Princess Meet and greet we are getting for 2011 in the IASW Post-show section?
I didn't get a chance to go to see IASW so I don't know how big the room is at the moment. So...
Our Royal Princess Palace will be bigger and, according to rumours, more sophisticated with the latest technology incorporated. What that realy means, I don't know either, but giving the fact that WDI is doing this project (and not DLP-I), could be an indicator that this won't be 'just another' meet&greet location, but something special. We can only wait and see!
Here's some pictures of the signs that have cropped up on the Hub-Parking lot covered walkways:
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Source: Disney Gazette (//http://www.disneygazette.fr/magical-moments-festival-2011-earl-of-sandwich-world-of-disney-snow-neige-news-474.html)
They look nice enough. Although, unless you've seen the press release, what they're advertising is anyone's guess.
And here is what must be the most obscure "teaser trailer" ever :lol:
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lol it's not really advertising anything except the name...not much of a teaser lol!
Just a little 'happy new year' message with a Magical Moments touch. I actually like it for what it is. Just a simple message. It's just playing with clip-art, but I like it nonetheless. Looking forward to this new themed year!
is there an open date for the new princess meet and greet?
Quote from: "mdw"is there an open date for the new princess meet and greet?
6th april 2011.
How I long a time at DLP that is not about festivals per se, but one that offers themed entertainment appropriate to each land - a barber shop quartet and marching band on Main Street, a pianist at Casey's Corner, can can dancers in the Lucky Nugget, craftsmen in Adventureland and Frontierland, quality shows on the stages they were intended for, fireworks of quality more than just in summer (perhaps every saturday night), decent opening hours. You know, a real proper disney park in Europe.
But there is no point lamenting the past....
Thank you, does everything else start in april aswell?
Quote from: "mdw"Thank you, does everything else start in april aswell?
Should do, but as always things could be subject to change.
i think its good there will be a lot more 'live' things going on and that they will be fitting to each land, I heard one cast member saying he had had a fitting for his Mr Darling costume. So fingers crossed this could be a great step change and more streetmousephere
I think the more interaction the better. My 4 and 2 year old have never been before, I cant wait to see their faces.
i cant wait to see it were going on the 3 of April am hoping that they will be showcasing some of the shows early... who knows
The press event is on April 2.
Link (//http://newsdlrp.com/dlp-218-prochaines-dates-press-event-magical-moments.html)
hi, is it true that the new princess meet and greet opening has been postponed til 2012?
The princess meet and greet is still in the press release from yesterday so I think it's just one of those rumours that is based on imagination... :-)
good news, thank you. Cant wait to see some pics on here when it opens
Here are some more Concepts i found via google on disneygazette...
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Photolocation Ratatouille
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Photolocation Aladdin
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Photolocation Alice
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Photolocation Jungle Book
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Photolocation Nemo
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Thanks for posting!
Does anyone else think the photolocations look a bit odd? Unless there is a set que with a character I doubt anyone will actualy pose infront of them, like the Nemo location for example; that will most likely be ignored.
Also, does anyone else find it strange that the princesses are standing on a story-book rather than the normal Central Plaza stage? Or am I just looking into this too much? :lol:
Some of these I really like. Some of the photolocations look very, especially the Jungle Book, Finding Nemo and the Peter Pan ones. Proably things that will eventually become pernament.
Not entirely sure what the Tangled one is, and the Ratatouille one looks so....akward there. Very cheap and not at all in keeping with the surround. These arent final concepts are they?
Its interesting to note the flagstones that are on the ground in the picture of Mickey in front of the princesses - perhaps a foreshadowing of the Fantasyland floor refurb? ;)
I like the looks of them, the Nemo one will probably get some interest as it has stationary characters which you can just quickly pose with. There's a very similar setup outside the entrance to The Seas With Nemo and Friends, and that is constantly crawling with children posing with the characters.
I love the look of the Aladdin/Peter Pan ones, there's some actual design in those! It'll be really nice to see a more regular Genie/Abu meet and greet there too, they were unexpected and a highlight of my Magic Kingdom trip.
Love the first visual with the Toon Studio Mickey on a rocky outcrop looking over the Castle (even if it is just the Christmas visual with some clouds blocking the tree!).
Trailer released!
[youtube:3b2wnuca]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pv0n99iZys[/youtube:3b2wnuca]
This is really the official trailer? :shock:
The trailer features footage from earlier trailers, especially the parade and Indiana Jones are taken from older advertisement videos. So I hope that this is not an official trailer. Why would Disney not use the actual parade? The trailer just doesn't look professional, but in my opinion many of the recent trailers didn't look professional.
I like the concept of it! The whole reveal section started a bit on the cheesy side, but as it went on I enjoyed it. It summed up the Disney feeling without being toon heavy. The content of the in park stuff is just hideous! There's a Roger Rabbit float there, and the footage of RC Racer just feels like it was done on the cheap.
Good concept, solid Disney thinking, but not executed with Disney care.
Quote from: "dagobert"This is really the official trailer? :shock:
It's the same kind of early teaser they've cobbled together every year since the 15th, mainly intended for internal/partner/online use. It won't be used on TV or anything*. The concept of kids being told they're going to Disneyland is the main theme of the campaign though - did anyone see the Disneymotion (//http://www.disneymotion.co.uk/) contest?
Surprisingly they're running a joint DLP/WDW campaign in the UK this month. I can't remember exactly when that last happened, but it seems like a long time ago. Both resorts have similar memories/moments themes going on, and I guess the Disneymotion entrants will be featured.
*Although the MMP/NGF 2009/2010 trailers (unfortunately?) appeared on some Disney DVDs, didn't they?
Quote from: "norhel"Must say that I like the logo. :-)
Welll....I'm kinda peeved off with that trailer.
They obv used the ones from that Disneymotion comp and ones taken from the Americans park adverts and shoved them together to make.....well nothing! What a pile of tosh. They should of just used my videos of my child having a great time in Disneyland and used that lol. But seriously I could of edited something together better than that.
and the Remy photolocation, please tell me thats not real? LMFAO.
Some of those visuals are sensational. I especially like the first... reusing the Christmas artwork a little... just without the Christmas tree on Town Square. Gives a sense of epic-ness :)
As for the trailer... nice concept... but the music is overly dramatic to start with. It needs to show how special the moment is with a heart-warming slower more 'magical' tune. Sure when it gets to showing the parks then can hype it up, but the moment you tell a child they're going to Disneyland is beautiful... not something from a Hollywood movie. Certainly doesn't match the shaky visuals
All I have left to add is that if this is just a teaser trailer, I dread to imagine what the full one will be?
You would not know that by the videos used on that the children have just been told they are going to Disneyland Paris, except 2 of them I would say. Ok you may think I'm bitter about not winning the Disneymotion comp (I'm not really lol) but why ask for videos of magical moments when your going to use mocked up ones in the park of actors etc. It defeats the object. I want to see REAL people having fun at Disneyland, not a paid child actor.
I do like the park visuals though, just the start of it sucks. Really looks like some 15 year old edited that part together on Windows Movie Maker lol
Hopefully the real trailer used for advertising DLRP will be more professional. When will DLRP start to produce proper made advertising campaigns?
I read in a German newspaper that TWDC Germany, Austria and Switzerland hired a real advertising agency which will also promote DLRP in these countries (the page is in German: http://www.gce-agency.com/news_gce_disney.html (http://www.gce-agency.com/news_gce_disney.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)). So maybe there is a little chance that we will see better trailers and aover here.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Ok you may think I'm bitter about not winning the Disneymotion comp (I'm not really lol) but why ask for videos of magical moments when your going to use mocked up ones in the park of actors etc. It defeats the object. I want to see REAL people having fun at Disneyland, not a paid child actor.
The Disneymotion videos will probably be used in the joint DLP/WDW TV campaign which begins Sunday. I really wouldn't get too hung up on this trailer, it hasn't been used anywhere publicly yet (aside from me uploading it there).
Hopefully they won't put it on Disney DVDs like previous years...
Going back to what's happening in the parks -- some of those concepts are actually quite nice. The Aladdin "Magic Lamp" concept looks great, and along with the Peter Pan location will bring a bit of life to that rather dead area of Adventureland. I wonder if the Magic Lamp event will be similar in style to Merlin? Children rub the lamp, eventually the Genie appears? The extra characters at Crush's Coaster are very welcome too, all notable in their absence before now. It'll help appease the kids who are too young/scared to ride.
Disney Dance Express, however, looks frightening like the Disney Dance Crew (DCA) (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10083), doesn't it? And that Ratatouille photo location, stolen from a dilapidated seaside pier somewhere... seriously? This is what Disneyland Paris imagineer now, photo backdrops with holes cut in them? Watch out, Blackpool.
So are those photo location images from DLP? I assumed they were speculative images from some fan site.
Yes, those concept arts are from DLP, but are supposed to be for internal use only. Obviously someone leaked them to the internet. Not the 'Disney quality standard', I know, but they were never meant that way, only to get a rough visualisation of the locations in the parks.
Sources are confirming that the Disney Dance Express will feature music from the 'Move It! Shake It! Celebrate It!' interactive parade in Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom, so no Disney Dance Crew stuff.
For an 'in between'-year, I think Magical Moments can realy deliver, based on the press release. I honestly thought it would be something like Next Generation Festival Part Deux to reduce the costs, but they are intensifying the entertainment offerings (a new Peter Pan happening, the return of Tarzan), which is very nice. Looking forward to it!
Quote from: "Anthony"The Disneymotion videos will probably be used in the joint DLP/WDW TV campaign which begins Sunday. I really wouldn't get too hung up on this trailer, it hasn't been used anywhere publicly yet (aside from me uploading it there). Hopefully they won't put it on Disney DVDs like previous years...
I hope your right Anthony, but I just don't see how they can use magical moments from WDW to promote a completely different park where the experiences are so different. ....I guess we will see what the TV campaign brings us on Sunday.
I'm excited about all the new happenings in the park though, though the concept art is so bad I can see what they are aiming for.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Quote from: "Anthony"The Disneymotion videos will probably be used in the joint DLP/WDW TV campaign which begins Sunday. I really wouldn't get too hung up on this trailer, it hasn't been used anywhere publicly yet (aside from me uploading it there). Hopefully they won't put it on Disney DVDs like previous years...
I hope your right Anthony, but I just don't see how they can use magical moments from WDW to promote a completely different park where the experiences are so different. ....I guess we will see what the TV campaign brings us on Sunday.
I'm excited about all the new happenings in the park though, though the concept art is so bad I can see what they are aiming for.
I understand what you're saying, but the essence of the use of these 'magical home video moments' is to show how excited people (and especially children) get when they are told that they are going to Disney. Whether that's Disneyland in California, Walt Disney World in Florida or Disneyland in Paris, it doesn't matter. The phrase 'we're going to disneyland!' is unique and the goal for DLP is to reach the parents of children to get them to want the same reaction from their children when they tell them they're going to Disneyland.
What I don't understand is the use of actual footage from other resorts (like the parade in this video for instance). They have beautiful footage from Disney's Once Upon A Dream, Disney's Stars 'n' Cars and Disney's Fantillusion to use in their commercials, yet they decide to show us a parade which cannot be seen here. Strange indeed.
Quote from: "Tuvok"I understand what you're saying, but the essence of the use of these 'magical home video moments' is to show how excited people (and especially children) get when they are told that they are going to Disney. Whether that's Disneyland in California, Walt Disney World in Florida or Disneyland in Paris, it doesn't matter. The phrase 'we're going to disneyland!' is unique and the goal for DLP is to reach the parents of children to get them to want the same reaction from their children when they tell them they're going to Disneyland.
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But you don't even know by the first couple of videos that, that is even whats going on. If you look at the US parks promotion they show you most of the video where they are being told where they are going. The ones DLP have used look like well..... If it wasn't shoved into a awful promotional trailer them kids could of been going anywhere. The videos I have seen from the other campaign well they made me shed a few tears, this had a opposite effect.
I'm sure DLP will pull something magical out the bag on Sunday when the official campaign starts, they haven't failed us yet *snort* ;)
There's what seems to be a brief preview of the new ads on the UK homepage: http://www.disneylandparis.co.uk/index.xhtml (http://www.disneylandparis.co.uk/index.xhtml%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Looks good, nice music. I can definitely see this hitting a chord with parents.
Also, http://magical-moments.disneylandparis.co.uk (http://magical-moments.disneylandparis.co.uk"%20onclick="window.open(this.href);return%20false;) is probably where the MMF pages will be.
Oh I love that music! Really dramatic but quite modern and new territory for DLP. Quite a departure from the usual.
Now that's a great commercial! It would have been even better if you could actualy 'hear' the excitement of the children. Just that moment of joy and chear. Truely magical!
Wow, that's really great! I love the music. Made a tear come to my eye. =]
Also, the pages for what's coming soon is also really pretty. I can't wait to find out more about them. ^^
The "Share your emotions" page was nice too, seeing the videos and pictures are awesome. =D
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I like the video on the homepage very cute!
I've filled 2 pages full of Magical Moments on there page lol, Just waiting for all the things I submitted to be accepted. Wonder what prizes you can win.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"I like the video on the homepage very cute!
I've filled 2 pages full of Magical Moments on there page lol, Just waiting for all the things I submitted to be accepted. Wonder what prizes you can win.
My words exactly! That's the video they should use for the tv add. Love it!
That's really a good video and a lot better than the TV spots from previous years. Did DLRP hire an advertising agency or was it produce by WDW since this campaign features both resorts?
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"I've filled 2 pages full of Magical Moments on there page lol, Just waiting for all the things I submitted to be accepted. Wonder what prizes you can win.
I've just put a couple of our photos on too (have got some bloomin mistakes on it though but dont want to change it now!) Saw yours of Kyra, they are so cute!
Are you going again this year? xx
Just saw the Magic Moments ad on the Sneak Previews on the new Bambi Diamond Edition DVD :thumbs:
Cute
Yay, the actual pages have been launched. http://magical-moments.disneylandparis.co.uk (http://magical-moments.disneylandparis.co.uk"%20onclick="window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I do like the modified logo on the tab at the top. It's a lot less plain than the one used in the trailer etc. I do hope they continue with this one! The trailer has been changed a little and the colours/sleek text/flashy pictures are so much better than our usual. Just compare the design to the top of the page (the traditional website format). Loads better. Love it DLP :)
Nice music!! But i hate this strangers people and his kids... :(
The adverts are great! Can't wait to see them on telly, much better than that one on the previous page!
Have been seeing the adverts all Morning on Nick Jnr and must say that they are so much better than the teaser trailer.
Really cute.
However, I don't ever think we will see DLP treated as a place for all anymore. It is all about the kids, and I think that is a shame.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"However, I don't ever think we will see DLP treated as a place for all anymore. It is all about the kids, and I think that is a shame.
Unfortunately that's so true. There are so many adults without kids who go to Disney and they have a lot more money to spend than families. Usually both are working which means double income and so they can afford more expensive hotels, rstaurant and maybe they also buy more merchandise. If Disney continues that way, DLRP will lose some money, because grown ups stop going there.
What also annoys me at DLRP that there are parents who look at you, because you are going to ride Dumbo. Some of them also think that their kids deserve it more to meet Mickey Mouse than we do. I don't have a problem to let kids go first r let them stand in front of me while watching the parade, but I hate parents who use their children as an excuse for getting a better spot. I have never experienced that at WDW. And I blame Disney a bit for that behaviour, just because they advertise the parks towards children.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"I like the video on the homepage very cute!
I've filled 2 pages full of Magical Moments on there page lol, Just waiting for all the things I submitted to be accepted. Wonder what prizes you can win.
Where is the competition?
i saw the brochure yesterday, why are their bits where dlp seems to be on a pier? could we be seeing a hint at the third park? paris disneysea??????
Quote from: "peter"i saw the brochure yesterday, why are their bits where dlp seems to be on a pier? could we be seeing a hint at the third park? paris disneysea??????
I'm sure that is not a hint on Paris DisneySea. It's just another example how bad DLRP's brochures are. Tokyo DisneySea is the most expensive themepark ever created and no Disney resort wholly or partly owned by TWDC will ever buils such a great themepark. I'm also sure that this park will never get cloned to another resort.
I also got my brochure today and as I've already mentioned, it looks as bad as the issues for the last 8 years. I do understand why DLRP doesn't put a higher effort into the brochures. Nearly everyone gets the infrmations in the internet. I've never booked a trip to DLRP at a travel agency or because of the brochure.
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Unfortunately that's so true. There are so many adults without kids who go to Disney and they have a lot more money to spend than families. Usually both are working which means double income and so they can afford more expensive hotels, rstaurant and maybe they also buy more merchandise. If Disney continues that way, DLRP will lose some money, because grown ups stop going there.
I agree i think they couldve incorporated some videos of adults, i mean wouldnt we all be as excited as those children if we were given a suprise disney trip !
I think its a great advert but add more than just the 4-10 age group DLP, theres alot more people who visit you park that arnt children.
I like these ones;
[youtube:1q2lgdvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b95oyhSd5ls&feature=related[/youtube:1q2lgdvs]
[youtube:1q2lgdvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA93vBjD4EU&feature=related[/youtube:1q2lgdvs]
Thanks for the videos, Owain. There are worlds between WDW's and DLRP's advertisement videso. Disney in the USA is so much more professional. I know that in the new campaign Disney used home videos and that is used by WDW and DLRP, but in recent years there was a huge gap in advertising between the US resorts and DLRP.
It annoyed my wife that the superior Disneyland (her words) is not advertised in Europe at all.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"It annoyed my wife that the superior Disneyland (her words) is not advertised in Europe at all.
yeah, but they wont even ship the vacation planning dvd outside north america. but i thought it odd they advertise wdw on us tv in states that r closer 2 california
An attempt to force the numbers of WDW to be the biggest (though I understand TDL gets that number, but they discount it because it is managed by OLC and not Disney). What is disconcerting is the number of Europeans that talk about wanting to go the original in Florida (nope, that is not the original...grrrrrr).
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"What is disconcerting is the number of Europeans that talk about wanting to go the original in Florida (nope, that is not the original...grrrrrr).
And when you try to correct them they take offence as they for some reason think they have better disney knowledge because they are disney channels biggest fan :lol:
That's crazy, I have those arguments all the time! Like when people say that Paris isn't the "real" Disney or that Florida is the original. Drives me crazy.
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"That's crazy, I have those arguments all the time! Like when people say that Paris isn't the "real" Disney or that Florida is the original. Drives me crazy.
Indeed. One I get the most is "So when are you going to proper Disney (Florida) then?" Usually after I've just told them I run an online guide to Disneyland Paris. Gritting of teeth...
Maybe this new joint campaign will help things a little. For several years DLP's print and TV ads have looked so tacky compared to the classy, more aspirational stuff for WDW. If Paris has to be lumped together with Florida to get a classy campaign, then so be it. One thing the Magical Moments Festival has over any of the previous theme years is a really very modern, restrained look to the campaign. It seems to be more about repositioning Disneyland Paris as a quality/aspirational brand more than promoting the actual festival or anything else, which it really needed. Let's just hope the people inspired by these TV ads don't pick up the brochure... haha.
I agree they really should include more than just kids one of these days though. "So when are you going to tell them?" could have meant anyone - why not a guy treating his wife or girlfriend with a trip to Disneyland? (Or the other way round!)
It's a lot like a successor to NeedMagic? or any of the American resorts' many sentimental "memories last a lifetime"-style campaigns, only with a year-long festival attached for no other reason than because that's the way Euro Disney rocks nowadays.
I wonder if we'll ever see a regular campaign with a slogan again. As in, something like "Disneyland Paris — It's Darn Good."
But I think the big mistake Disney makes now is that they cater to parents. They used to cater to children and therefore the grown children that parents and grandparents really are.
I mean, when you want to sell a toy, you try to sell it to kids, right? You emphasize how fast it goes and how Barbie now comes with four different hats and how generally awesome it is. You don't go; "Parents, listen up! Hot Wheels are now safer and more educational than ever!"
Because that's what Disney is doing, really. While they should be making kids drool all over Disneyland Paris' awesomeness so that they run off to their parents and, Simpsons-style, nag to be taken there immediately. Personally, I suspect that if they were to air that 20-year old promotional ad for Euro Disney now, the one with the hot-air balloon over the Magic Kingdom standing in for a yet-unfinished Euro Disneyland and the Disney characters on gold stars flying through all the different rides, it would have more of an impact than all the smiling, shimmery-eyed toddlers in every recent campaign put together. Because that was an awesome video that made every eighties-born kid that saw it want to go to Euro Disney more than anything.
Another way of putting it: You get people's attention by being magical, not by explaining the existence of magic to them and convincing them that magic is just a wad of cash away. You need to push it into their faces, tug at their heartstrings and make them all tingly right there during the commercial break. This new ad campaign does none of that, and the only emotion it left me with is one of being manipulated into spending large amounts of money for my hypothetical children's happiness. That's not a very magical feeling.
(God, I'm a pointless neologism away from being Kevin Yee.)
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That was a wonderful TV ad and it even aired in Austria as well. I know the US advertisement videos are very cheesy, but I prefere them a lot more than those cheap smiling kids videos DLRP produced.
Now the ads that ran in the 90's for the opening (and the awesome Space Mountain ones in 1995) were amazing. Sadly those days are long gone. But anthony could be right. Maybe things will improve in lumping them together. Then again, this could be the next steps in trying to synergise the parks with the Disney Parks brand they have been using to lump WDW, DL AND DCL together in the States.
Is the financial situation of ED SCA really so bad, that they aren't able to run a proper European wide advertising campaign done by a professional agency?
I hope you guys are right that things will maybe improve.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"An attempt to force the numbers of WDW to be the biggest (though I understand TDL gets that number, but they discount it because it is managed by OLC and not Disney). What is disconcerting is the number of Europeans that talk about wanting to go the original in Florida (nope, that is not the original...grrrrrr).
tell me about it. the amount of people i talk 2 who dont even know there is a disneyland in california let alone its the original
I think Disney should use scened from this video to promote the resort:
[youtube:rx86oa6u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRIXbej55Y&feature=player_profilepage[/youtube:rx86oa6u]
I like it a lot. It must be an official video, because I found it on the DLP channel on YouTube. It proves the DLRP can do professional videos.
By the way, is the music played in the video the All Around The World from the Imaginations Parade?
:offtopic: Take a look at these people standing on the lawn behind the fence during the parade at the beginning of the video. That only happens in Paris. We didn't notice that at WDW. I don't get why no CM told them not to stand there since they were filming. It shouldn't happen anyway, but as long no CM stops people doing that, we will still see that bad behaviour.
Quote from: "dagobert":offtopic: Take a look at these people standing on the lawn behind the fence during the parade at the beginning of the video. That only happens in Paris. We didn't notice that at WDW. I don't get why no CM told them not to stand there since they were filming. It shouldn't happen anyway, but as long no CM stops people doing that, we will still see that bad behaviour.
I have seen people do this, a cast member tell them off, they leave and then 5 minutes later they or others are back there. The only way to stop it is to have cast members there all the time :( Annoying people. Part of the magic of DLP are all the cultures of europe melding, but some people seem to use the different languages and customs as an excuse (like the girls smoking on It's a Small world that I asked to stop in English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Dutch and still they pretended not to understand, and why I told the cast member, they didn't care)
Quote from: "dagobert"I think Disney should use scened from this video to promote the resort:
[youtube:1zggp5s8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRIXbej55Y&feature=player_profilepage[/youtube:1zggp5s8]
this should be used in their adverts, it shows an untacky side of disney rarely seen unless you are there. the extra magical touches, like showing the smoke effects on sm:m2, and mickey in the castle, will help change a popular belief of dlp
I agree Peter. The park is so beautiful in its purest form, but it simply doesn't sell the overall experience I guess.
A while back I put some really generic visuals together to see if DLP could make an advert on a budget, but have some heart too. Not all the graphics etc. I guess this is what I came up with:
[youtube:30rlc68y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsscavT0H70[/youtube:30rlc68y]
Personally I really like the qualities of the American commercials. The same sharing of family joy, just with a little more shine/professionalism. Doesn't all have to be expensive
[youtube:30rlc68y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_T1tWnr46E[/youtube:30rlc68y]
Quote from: "dlrpkris"I agree Peter. The park is so beautiful in its purest form, but it simply doesn't sell the overall experience I guess.
A while back I put some really generic visuals together to see if DLP could make an advert on a budget, but have some heart too. Not all the graphics etc. I guess this is what I came up with:
[youtube:9olgl64v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsscavT0H70[/youtube:9olgl64v]
that's really a good style, show characters with children, characters with families ON the rides. show how great it is to visit dlp
Disney And More has posted an article about the Magical Moments Festival:
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/ ... isney.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/02/dlp-update-all-about-2011-disney.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
To sum it up: In 2011 Disneyland Paris will become Photolocationland Paris and Meet-and-Greet Studios Paris. :roll: :roll: :roll:
At least it is just for one year and hopefully DLRP will come up with something better for the 20th birthday, but I highly doubt it and I'm sure these meet and greets and photolocations will stay for the 20th birthday as well.
Some other interesting things in this article. THe Peter Pan shot would have been traditionally been shot in front of the pirate ship and skull rock. Sadly the ship is rotting away in a disgusting state. It was scheduled for maintenance earlier this month, but as of today, there is still no sign of that starting. Many of us are angry they are spending their money on things like this promo and Toy story Playland instead of sorting the park refurbs (though the Castle has finally started, 3 years later than we were informed it would start).
We would rather have them sort these than more meet, and greet, and grope experiences (e.g. turning the wonderful It's a Small World post show into a Princess Meet and Greet.
Now onto the offerings. This new hub show will be new, but is simply an update of the hub shows that have been running for the last 3 years. Shows which get many complaints of pushing and shoving. And in the meantime, the 4 purpose built theatres, 3 of them indoors (which is a god send with European weather) have sat empty. There is a light, in that Tarzan, the 10 year old show (though it is amazing, and one of my fav shows to grace a Disney stage) is rumoured to return this summer after casting for it. However, at the same time, they are ripping out all the benches in front of the castle stage, a scene of meet and greets for the last few years (yet in the early years had one of the coolest shows using a magic pop up book - also played host to Gloria Estephan, the Gypsy Kings, Four Tops and Four Seasons together, Angela Lansbury and many more).
Now with the Disney Princesses, a Royal Invitation, it will be interesting to see what happens here. The aforementioned Castle Stage has been used for Princess meet and greets for a few years now. The reason they can call this new is they have turfed out the delightful it's a small world post show that highlighted hologram animation of children in different country costumes singing IASM to each other. It was delightful. Now with the attraction no longer being sponsored by France Telecom, it made sense to close the post show in Spring of 2010(though I shall miss it, as do my children). and the plan was to relocate the princesses to a newly decorated environment - although thematically a little dodgy (though no where near as bad as them being on the Adventureland Verranda in the MK), at least it is indoors and heated/aced. But when the announcement came that WDW Fantasyland Expansion would have a princess meet and greet, the rumour mill suggested that this feature will be delayed in Paris so they could be built at the same time. It will be interesting to see what happens. And no matter what, I can bet there will be longer lines for this than IASW next door :-(
4 - The Wonderful World of Alice and The Mad Hatter
Now this one I find particularly sad. for those unfamiliar with DLP, in Fantasyland, we have an Alice miniland that is more ornate than any of the other parks. There is a wonderful organic Labrynth with special effects, then a large throne in an arbour with a tea pot topiary in front of it. That faces the Mad Hatter's Unbirthday Cake Cottage (or whatever they call it these days - it used to be a wonderful venue where you could buy different flavour unbirthday cakes and decorate them your self - last time I looked, they sold potaoe chips and the same muffins you can buy everywhere across the park). Next to that is a long table with different chairs and a large teapot with the door mouse in it (like the one in the middle of the Mad Hatter Tea Cups at WDW). Then there are the tea cups themselves.
Back in the glory days of DLP, you would often find Alice, White Rabbit, The Queen of Hearts et all playing games and posing for photos in this area without any need for marketing. Those moments disappeared (like the Dapper Dans before them) well over a decade ago. I suppose I should be happy for the return, but at the same time it is a disappointment.
5 - Adventureland Rhythms of the Jungle will be in the spot where the african Tam Tams used to play. It will be interesting to see if they still do. Last year, these African Drummers moved over to Videopolis in Discoveryland to try to compensate for the fact the Lion King Show was no longer on. Now don't get me wrong, I love the TamTams, they are one of my favorite "attractions" at DLP. But what are African drummers in traditional dress doing in Discoveryland rather than Adventureland, one that has an almost Animal Kingdom Harambe quality to it with a large African themed section?
6 - Moteurs... Action ! Stunt Show Spectacular featuring Lightning McQueen!
Now this one has conjured a lot of interest. People are wondering whether Lighting McQueen will replace the Herbie segment, and how they will weave it in given Herbie is designed to show how car stunts are filmed and McQueen is animated. But this was brought to you by the same idiotic management team that thought putting Mickey and the Gang in Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (up to that point an almost perfect preproduction of the show that William cody brought to Paris over 100 years ago).
also the other big question is whether the big jumps will return. After an accident last year, the show has been running without the jumps, and many return guests are asking "why bother". After all, we lost the jet skis in year 2 due to an accident. I am reticent to waste an hour if the show is only 40% of what it used to be.
Number 7 - meeting Rapunzel and Flynn might be interesting (shame the Flynn is not of the TRON variety though ;-)
9 - Green Army Men Meet & Play
Now this is quite cool. And definately welcome. After all, most kids are too short to ride RC Racer, and if you get there and don't want to stand in 60-90 minute carnival rides you can wait 10 minutes for in other parks, this gives something that will add to the experience. And that gets a huge thumbs up from me.
10 - Smile and say "Cheese" with Remy and Emile
What is interesting about this one is they are planned to be in front of the restaurant where you can meet the to scale Remy. It would have made better sense to place them in the PArisian street that was created in front of Toy Story Playland, unless of course they are going to start construction on the rumoured Ratatouille attraction that has had earth cleared, and strutural elements seen, but has not gone verticle or been announced officially.
11 and 12 are not new at all, but a useful reminder to newbies I suppose.
13 - Share the love with Wall-E and Eve!
Now this was installed last year, and is very cool at night, I like this one. And it is on theme too!
14 - Disney Dance Express
Ok, I really hate this thing now. It was introduced for the 15th anniversary reusing a 15 year old parade float to have a mini parade (set to a TDL annoying parade song, dubbed into high pitched french akin to justin beiber and finger nails scraping on a chalk board). It takes a shed load of characters down to the hub for meet and greets. sounds great? Well the trade of is the Main Street Vehicles hardly run anymore (forget seeing the horsedrawn street car, maybe during EMH if you are lucky). and lots of pushing and shoving and tears to be had at the hub as everyone charges for the character (yet when they just appear in the lands it does not seem as bad).
Now, personally, I would rather they did not bother, and simply restored the pirate ship, the castle and some of the streetmousephere that has been lacking. But I guess this is a relatively inexpensive way for them to plug something.
But to me, this is clearly much ado about nothing, and similar to every other lame character led campaign since the 15th anniversary. Now what will be interesting is to see if anything happens for next year's 20th - though they are cutting it fine if they were going to develop a new attraction.
Any one heard anything?
We will be in DLP in the 2nd week of this new celebration, if anyone is interested in us covering it. Though with anger I seem to conjure in the fan community, I do not want to waste my time if it is not of interest.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"We will be in DLP in the 2nd week of this new celebration, if anyone is interested in us covering it. Though with anger I seem to conjure in the fan community, I do not want to waste my time if it is not of interest.
Don't waste your time with that stuff, there are better things to do. I'm sure you are going to do a trip report, maybe you can cover some things.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"After all, we lost the jet skis in year 2 due to an accident. I am reticent to waste an hour if the show is only 40% of what it used to be.
:offtopic: I've always wondered why there are no jet skis in our Moteurs... Action! It must have been quite a bad accident in order to get them removed from the show?! :(
what happened?
Quote from: "Festival Disney":offtopic: I've always wondered why there are no jet skis in our Moteurs... Action! It must have been quite a bad accident in order to get them removed from the show?! :(
I think it was more to do with the final jump than an accident on the jet skis. They added a "temporary" bridge (photo (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/walt_disney_studios/backlot/moteurs_action_stunt_show_spectacular/DSC00539.JPG)) under the final jump, just in case the hero car doesn't make it across the water. Unfortunately, this meant the jet skis obviously couldn't zip up and down the canal any more. I know at WDW the bridge can go up and down in the water to allow the jet skis to pass (it only raises the finale)... Maybe the Paris one does now as well, but they've never bothered bringing the jet skis back anyway.
If Lightning McQueen simply replaces Herbie as the "celebrity cameo" then I'm all for it, it will get a lot of extra people in that show. As it heads towards its 10th anniversary though, I wonder if they should begin to look at reworking the show itself, maybe add a new stunt or two. (They won't.) The same goes for Animagique - I'd much rather see a new scene added to that and the show given new advertising rather than that lazy Ratatouille photo location. You can imagine some really awesome Monsters Inc blacklight scene like the opening titles of the film, or something tied into Finding Nemo... But no, the park is getting a giant plastic block of cheese with some holes cut in it.
I'd be interested to hear the latest on the Disney Princesses thing. I know in promo materials DLP have actually stated that it's "not confirmed by WDI" yet, but I don't know how up to date that is. I wouldn't be half surprised if it turns out they're just now rebranding the regular Princess meets at Le Théâtre du Château under that name until the Small World thing possibly opens next yet. After all, as far as I understand it "Monsters Inc Scream Academy" was meant to be a new show/happening in the Studios last year - it got cancelled, but they continued the advertising and pretended they were promoting the four-year-old photolocation all along.
There is an odd emphasis on Adventureland events this year, and practically nothing at the Studios.
This video I found on the DisneyCentralPlaza forum of the "Assemblée Générale EuroDisney SCA" (Annual General Meeting) of a small sneak preview of some of the new attractions to come. However this video only shows the Tarzan Encounter and Lightening Mcqueen for the Stunt Spectacular!
The man who posted the video also mentioned about the music played in the background at 3:15 could possibly be the new music for the festival.
[youtube:pa8793c1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tIamCP_BZY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:pa8793c1]
Also the images for the tickets have been "realised" Of course they might change/might not be 100% true,
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Thank you to DLRP-Express and DisneyCentralPlaza for the image.[/spoiler:pa8793c1]
I Love to see the rare characters of Rafiki, Hatter, Queen of Hearts, Timon and Pumba and Cpt Hook. =D
(Cinderella looks demented, and her hand is weird, hopefully someone has spotted the mistake)
Unfortunately that music was simply stolen from Tokyo... but DLP are getting better at buying the right for borrowed tracks to include instrumentals and deviant version. I think it's fair to say this theme won't play a large feature in the festival (a shame, I do like it), but what's to say that some other music might get copied and re-recorded :P
hi, any news on the new princess meet and greet location? any pics or hints on what it looks like or how its going to work? eg, 1 big queue to meet all of the princesses or indivdual queues? how many princesses each day?
michelle
Quote from: "mdw"hi, any news on the new princess meet and greet location? any pics or hints on what it looks like or how its going to work? eg, 1 big queue to meet all of the princesses or indivdual queues? how many princesses each day?
There's a bit of info on that here: ;)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10822 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10822%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Dlp.info, partner site of magicforum, has posted a picture about the new photo location in Adventureland:
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Maybe there will be some who disagree with me, but I don't like it. Does DLRP really think that there will be more people coming to the resort because of photo locations? Maybe children will be happy with that.
I agree, I think its crazy that they are pushing photo locations as their biggest attraction this year.
QuoteI think its crazy that they are pushing photo locations as their biggest attraction this year
Here, here. Although, I must admit I like the photolocation seen here. Nice and simple, not too gaudy and it looks good quality.
This isnt all thats happening here though is it? Is there not also some sort of musical happeneing going on here?
I don't think the photolocations on their own will bring more people in. Disney are working on refurbs this year, that's what most fans wanted, and that's what we're getting. I do like the photolocation, but no new attractions, refurbs and some new shows this year and next it seems.
Quote from: "dagobert"Dlp.info, partner site of magicforum, has posted a picture about the new photo location in Adventureland:
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Maybe there will be some who disagree with me, but I don't like it. Does DLRP really think that there will be more people coming to the resort because of photo locations? Maybe children will be happy with that.
Thank you Dagobert, you beat me to it. Here is the link to the news item itself
Magical Moments appearing (//http://www.dlp.info/News/2011/03/magical-moments-appearing/)
I like the way they look.
I lik this new photolocation. Strange combination Kaa and Zazu, but why not. They look good. They don't look cheap.
:thumbs:
thanx
i keep seeing the odd comment that the 'princess meet and greet' isnt opening til 2012. Is this true? my girls are princess mad. We are going in june and hope to meet as many as possible. Big minnie fans too. Dont want to do the princess meal because we cant afford it and our youngest wouldnt eat the food.
Will rapunzel have her own meet and greet?
Also after the show at the front of the castle can we meet the princesses as they come off stage?
michelle
Rapunzel is already doing her own meet and greet, so if you time it right and keep an eye out you should be able to meet her. I had to try a few times as when I got to the head of the line she would switch with another princess.
Jenn xxx
Has anyone seen Snow White do a meet and greet?? I'm a big kid and Snow White was always my favourite when I was little; so would love to have my photo taken with her!
Kaa and Zazu do look good, add some extra colour to that corner and the integration of Kaa is particularly good.
The only pedantic thing I can say is that this is meant to be the African area of the land. It's the space between Restaurant Hakuna Matata and the Bazaar, isn't it? Technically Kaa should be further over towards Colonel Hathi's Pizza Outpost or the Temple of Peril. I know, he's a fictional talking snake with hypnotic eyes (and I can't even work out if Disney's version is meant to be an Indian Python like the original book or a Boa Constrictor), but get the location right! The Jungle Book is set in India. Obviously jungle is jungle, who cares what continent...
It's also strange seeing characters from two different films permanently together like that. I can't think where that's been done before.
it looks okay, i would have had two characters from the same film, but i guess, both films, which will forever be classics, deserve much more than 5 mins each in animagique, and 2 or 3 characters in the parade
just saw the new stage show on dlp.info . it looks good, but why are they only showing it once every day
The Disney Magical Moments Festival press event is happening right now. I couldn't make it (bahh!), but I know Kristof is there on behalf of magicforum and Photos Magiques. Search for #DMMF (//http://twitter.com/#!/search/DMMF) on twitter for various updates.
The "new" entrance marquee was posted by @DLRPStuff...
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Via @DisneylandParis: De belles photos à prendre au Monde Merveilleux d' Alice et du chapelier Fou ! #DMMF
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Via @DisneyGazetteFr: Mais qui sont ces pirates...!? #DMMF
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Quote from: "Anthony"The Disney Magical Moments Festival press event is happening right now. I couldn't make it (bahh!), but I know Kristof is there on behalf of magicforum and Photos Magiques. Search for #DMMF (//http://twitter.com/#!/search/DMMF) on twitter for various updates.
The "new" entrance marquee was posted by @DLRPStuff...
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Hmm I'm torn. On one hand its nice, on the other its a bit big..
its better than ngf. talk about 'hollow' marketing. get it, because they were probably hollow.
bad joke
OH! I LOVE the Tea-Party Table!!!! XD It's sooo colourful and cute! I hope that characters will come and "interact" with it over the new festival. I also ADORE the Doormouse. ^^ :D
But with the opening sign..... It's ummmmm, a bit plain? Compared to the NGF one and the addition of the figurines. I would prefer more characters and the two titles at the sides seem to "disappear". But it could just be me. :?
Via @DisneylandParis: Waiting for the Mickey's Magical Celebration. En attendant la célébration Magique de Mickey #DMMF #DisneylandParis
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As regards to the signs on the Station, it looks a bit photo shopped to me :P But, if it is the real one... the Mickey bit seems a little too big, but an improvement on the last one. At least there aren't any creepy character figures, and it's in French and English, not just French!
^It's the real one! Lots of people posted photos of it on Twitter ;-)
More photo's appeared online (SOURCE (//http://www.scoop.it/t/disneyland-paris))
Mickey's Magical Celebration
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Following the Leader with Peter Pan
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Disney's Dance Express
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The "Rhythms of the Jungle" thingy
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Aladdin photo location (notice the smoke coming from the lamp!)
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Tangled photo location (with a life-sized Pascal)
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And one more thing:
"Expensive onboard cameras attached to Dumbo and Teacups vehicles!"
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Oh cool,I hoped that they would do a video. :) Can't wait to see it. (If they do a proper full video)
Can I just say, that the Tangled photo location is HIDEOUS!!!
The tangled thing looks like they got a picture from Disney and got a wooden tree cutout and stuck them to a floorboard
I appreciate the idea behind the Tangled one - its meant to ressemble a pop-up book - but why? It looks cheap and temporary
It would have been nice if they could have done something with the windmill (sorry, I forget its name!) - perhaps draped it with Rapunzel's braids and put Flynn's posters on the tree's surrounding it, placed lanterna around it and painted the windmill with Rapunzel's paintings. This just looks like a step backwards, something I would have expected to see in WDS when it opened. The DL meet and greet looks fantastic:
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Thats her hair that comes out of the tower and snakes round the cottage.
And what to bet that slidey brown floor wont be soon replaced with a rubber one?
As for the opening sign on the Train Station - I quite like it. A welcome change from the creepy manniquins of last year. The only things I dont like are the wee Welcome/Bienvenue at the bottom of the Mickey sign - what is it with DLRP and generic fonts?
Thanks for the photos. The gadgets on Dumbo seem a bit elaborate, though. Are they always on there?
Also, I'm surprised health and safety haven't asked for those spikes in Aladdin's photo op' to be removed. :P (Which is good.)
Via @DLRPStuff: Dunno if it has been posted already, but aside from the new Alladin, Peter Pan, Rapunzel and the Lion king/Jungle Book photo locations, there is one more new photo location! The one for the new #DMMF Princess Meet'n'Greet:
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And some more pictures of the Magic Moments-evening (SOURCE (//http://www.scoop.it/t/disneyland-paris/p/59724315/soooo-magical-just-for-you-juste-pour-vous-disneylandparis-dmmf))
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Does anyone know when Lightning McQueen is going to be in Moteurs Action?
Just another amazing picture of the show today (via @xaviertriquet on Twitter)
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I much prefer the princess photo location infront of the castle, inside the tents looks plain
Same here. The princess meet and greet looks cheap, not very "princessy" at all :? . I hope that is not a permanent thing. lookd better with the castle in the background.( Even though I like seeing Belle in the pic) :lol:
Aurora
This season is too much to preffer and promote children - DLRP is NOT for children only!!! But Fireworks in yesterday was GREAT!
Anyone else get the feeling that a lot of this stutt will be left in the park for years to come?
when i first saw the new Logo and the Name of the new Festival i had hope that it would be realy
something great and memorably in a good way. But all we got is just trash. They´re right it is a Magical Memories
Festival, something you just wanna se one time, and left you a bitter taste.
In the name Magical Moments i understand Shows that will blow you away, big in storytelling and great music, a special meet and greet for children, something for Teens and Adults to make them interested in the park, and lots of special details for everyone, just to give you the feeling of visiting again and again. nothing of this hapend, so for me its just an epic fail and am not thrilled to visit this year. all i wish is that the 20th will be a grat experiance and that it will top the 15th....
I like the Aladdin photo location, I also agree the Tangled one sucks..... I was expecting so much more.
Where is the Princess meet location and is this a permanent fixture at DLP?? Thanks :thumbs:
Hmm, ohh, arhh - what to say about all of these magical moments places... Some of the photo locations blend in quite well and look decent/good, while others are near to being disastrous.
I'm guessing some of them could be staying on for more than this festival - I guess (and hope) that this could be the better ones: "Rhythm of the Jungle", "Aladdin", "Peter Pan" and "Tea Party"... The "Tangles" and "Princesses" photo locations look extremely cheap and I am 99.9 % sure that these will be very temporary only to fill the space until the new Princess Photo Location opens in the former IASW post show (fingers crossed).
I like the Wall-E and having seen it in person it is quite well made. However, I don't like the placement at all and hope it will be removed again after MMF. We still haven't seen the Ratatouille in front of Restaurant des Stars. From concept arts it looks more like Tangled/Princesses than the others - I hope not.
The entertainment seems like another "lets-postpone-our-entertainment-creativity-to-the-20th" renewal... I guess the shows offer some entertainment for the families while the main budget this year is used on refurbishments (GREAT, FANTASTIC, WONDERFUL) and hopefully we will see more top class entertainment for the 20th. The return of Tarzan, however, is great and I cannot wait to see it again this summer :)
All in all it seems like a decent waiting-year-festival, which draws people to the resort with a catching name while offering time for the resort to refurbish all our favorites, so they are ready next year. Thumbs up :-)
Quote from: "Aurora"Same here. The princess meet and greet looks cheap, not very "princessy" at all :? . I hope that is not a permanent thing. lookd better with the castle in the background.( Even though I like seeing Belle in the pic) :lol:
Aurora
I'm guessing this is temporary until the real Princess Pavillion opens nearby in the old Small World postshow. That won't be until 2012, but since they advertised something called "Disney Princesses: A Royal Invitation" for this year... well, I guess this is it. :lol: (Needless to say, the Princess Pavillion will be a
huge improvement)
Not a fan of the Tangled location either. Well, it might be better if it was in a different place. I also wonder how good a view most people will get of the Peter Pan show/happening. Hopefully it's not like the old Peter Pan to Rescue (which took place actually on the ship in 2004), which was a bit of a failure because hardly anyone could see it.
The fireworks and ridiculously overblown stage show looks the same as every year.
New "human face" for Genie looks really scary! :(
Disney and More posted an article about the press event last Saturday (LINK (//http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/04/disneyland-paris-update-disney-magical.html));
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First, the Photo locations:
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The new shows:
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[youtube:33k11bh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDcVvlV8RvM[/youtube:33k11bh5]
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[youtube:33k11bh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yXQo7AMNwI[/youtube:33k11bh5]
[youtube:33k11bh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dY8JnJFKOw[/youtube:33k11bh5]
And finally, the BIG opening ceremony of the Magic Moments Festival! (LINK (//http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/04/disneyland-paris-mickeys-magical.html))
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[youtube:33k11bh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s73UP3P02mE[/youtube:33k11bh5]
And finally, the official video from Disneyland Paris' YouTube Channel...
[youtube:33k11bh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huE7Wu4oZxI[/youtube:33k11bh5]
so the characters sometimes go to the photolocations?
I love the Peter Pan show, it looks so much fun!
Interesting, I was there over the weekend and never saw the magic carpet at the Aladdin photo point. Maybe it was only there on the Saturday?
After seeing DLP's official video, I don't like the Dancer's in the blue coats with the umbrella's in front of Dreams of Imagination one bit! Chip, Dale and Pluto should be up the front, and put the blue coats at the back!
BUT, I do like the Peter Pan show, looks great! :D
Hopefully the new show stops get cut, not liking them at all but I do like the Peter Pan show.
Any pics of footage from the new additions to the parade.
Quote from: "hawian rollercoaster"Any pics of footage from the new additions to the parade.
The videos can be found in the Parade's thread here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=575&start=780#p186654 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=575&start=780#p186654%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;) :thumbs:
This photo was uploaded on the Facebook page of Character Photos Blog;
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This is the cheapest and ugliest thing I have possibly ever seen in a Disney Park. Just look at that metal fairground flooring. Eww.
That's really ugly, I can't believe WDI approved that. Maybe they weren't even involved. That's a new low for DLRP.
Wow, I try to see the positives but that is awfull, whats 'magical' about that?
As for WDI Peggie Farris the new head of Walt Disney Imagineering Paris was at the Fan presentation where thay made a point of mentioning this, as if it's something to sing about!
Oh my, oh my this is bad.... I cannot belive that I am seeing this in our beloved Disney park... A plain card board photo location promoted as a magical moment - at least the new locations in Disneyland Park has some quality - this is just sad.
I think my 7yo son has worked it out. These are new themed toilets and you can cheerfully look out while taking a tinkle :-"
How this qualifies as "magical" or even a worthwhile "moment" is a mystery.
Although, looking on the bright side, it's the closest we've been to a Ratatouille dark ride so far (!)
Good heavens. I was waiting to see this, it seemed to arrive a little late. And there was me thinking that, whilst still a horribly cheap (and literally end-of-the-pier) idea, the blocks of cheese would be somehow three dimensional.
Construction walls at DCA look better than this.
I had really hoped that the art work shown earlier in this thread didn't do it justice, but no. Surely almost any, even casual, visitor to the parks would consider that cheap?
And I guess we may have another of this type of location if there is a Nemo photo point too!
Quote from: "DopeyDad"And I guess we may have another of this type of location if there is a Nemo photo point too!
Hopefully that one will be more like Kaa and Zazu in Adventureland:
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It was a bit desperate they even advertised the Ratatouille location in this year's brochure:
QuoteMAGICAL FAMILY MOMENTS
Share the most magical adventures with your family at Disneyland® Paris together create the most unique and treasured family memories.
- New 3D photo location: Smile and say "cheese" with Remy and Emile
Crackers.
The Ratatouille photo location is :sick:
I think this whole year/festival is a bit desperate, advertising photolocations (that any normal guest would expect to be there anyway) as brand new and the best thing ever. I'm keeping my expectations for the 20th low so I don't get too dissapointed. I hate being so negative but really, when your given things like this theres not alot of hope :?
:offtopic: for a second, but I've noticed that 2 of the lights on Main Street Station have been missing for quite a while now. (The ones atop the "Main Street, U.S.A." sign)
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That Ratatouille photolocation is shocking. I was already pretty disgusted at the Tangled one, but this is a new low. Surely this is just temporary whilst they make a proper one?
Also, did they forget that they already have a Remy statue from the station last year? Why not just sit that on something like a chair, have a false window behind that looks out on a Paris vista (the image is already there as it was used in Hotel NY) and there you go, a classy, but still in theme photolocation.
These were very much done on the cheap. I'd rather have seen nothing than these lazy additions to the parks, which ruin the work which has been put into making the parks seem magical and authentic.
It's a flat piece of wood!!!!!!!! What the heck in this thing is 3d. The only thing that this is good for is for. Crying behind. Anyway, off to kill myself by choking on a piece of cheese
Can we possibly call this Disney's Magical year of Failures as yet another photo location has been taken away. This time it was the "wonderful" Alice photo location. :roll:
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I must admit, when I was there the week before last, the table was look quite dirty already. Maybe it is being cleaned? Although why they would need to remove it do so I'm not sure....
This looks just awful. Hopefully all new photolocations will be gone for the 20th birthday.
Some brand new (and very surprising!) visuals. All very beautiful, but unfortunatly all focusing on things that have not yet happened, or been a let down. (Alice in Wonderland photolocation, Hook's ship and the Rapunzel photolocation)
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Your thoughts?
Looking back on them, the Pirates and Alice images seem as if they have made an attempt to merge the Disney Classic Film and the Tim Burton film and Peter Pan and Pirates of the Caribbean, respectively. I think they've done so very well.
Three beautiful images (I'd go as far as to say nicer than the more recent Annie Leibovitz portraits), and they show that somewhere, someone has talent and vision. If only that person had the same input into the finished product.
If I saw that Tangled one, and went to the park and saw that cardboard cutout instead of a false 'room' with a hair swing, I'd feel cheated. Surely this isn't just fans who'd think this? If you saw that in a brochure and then the actual thing in park you'd definately think 'this isn't what I was promised!', wouldn't you?
If these images are made to promote the photolocations and the Peter Pan show, than they are done badly. These images are way too well done to promote the ugly photolocations. They don't deserve to be used for that.
I also like the pictures a lot and I agree that they are better than some of the Annie Leibovitz portraits.
I agree - they surpass Leibovitz's work by far. I wonder if these are Paris or California produced?
Disneyland released a wonderful new video about DLRP:
[youtube:rl22tgjf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efEye_0cPfw[/youtube:rl22tgjf]
Have you seen Kristof?? And some parts are taken from other parks.
Alice photo location has returned. The teacups needed holes drilling for rainwater drainage.
I saw Kristof two times :thumbs: :thumbs:
not a bad video, they have had a few like these over the years on their corporate sites. Much better than the mass media ads.
Does anyone know what this is and if it has anything to do with MMF?
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I think it's ridiculous and cheap. Having the characters everywhere makes it less special when meeting them, especially when it's the fab5 and some pixar characters.
They have always done stuff like this. The best encounters are when you do not know you will encounter them.
How is that cheap? We experienced this yesterday as we were leaving RnRC and everybody around seemed really happy to have a unexpected chance of shake hands and hugging the characters. And by the sheer amount of characters almost everybody around gets a realistic chance.
at least studios is getting something. its obvious that this was not planned for this year, otherwise they would have advertised for it. maybe they'll claim that this is new for the 20th?
An Austrian newspaper published an article about Disneyland Paris, Legoland Germany, Europa Park and Phantasialand. The article is about what people awaits this summer in the four themeparks. I hope it will not be read by many people, because it covers Disney's Magical Moments Festival. The other three parks offer new rides, like Maus-au-Chocolat at Phantasialand, while DLRP is just about shows and meet and greets. If you compare the offerings, I can imagine many people will choose one of the German Parks.
http://kurier.at/freizeit/reise/2104878.php (http://kurier.at/freizeit/reise/2104878.php%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;) It's in GERMAN!!!!
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It's interesting that the German Mickey Mouse Magazine celebrates it's 60th birthday at Legoland Germany. Not sure if Disney is happy about that. I remember that many years ago there were specials about WDW and DLRP in the magazine, but recently you can win trips to Europa Park or Legoland. I
Interesting report. I can attest, at Europa Park, Food Loop is indeed awesome, and we enjoyed Piccolo Mondo, though it is pretty equal to a Fantasyland Dark ride, fun though. The suite looked very cool too. And Phantasialand, the new spinner there did look nicer than the TSPL ish (but pretty equal to one TSPL ride) Though Maus au Chocolat sounds really interesting.
The new additions at DLP were a turn off for us this year except for the Aladdin photo area, and the Alice in Wonderland area. Sad, but true. The Dance Express and hub shows, as well as the parade stops were aweful, we just didn't bother in the end, walking away from them all.
Legoland in Germany sounds the real winner here though (although the new Atlantis ride in Windsor is aweome) - the Star Wars area alone is cool.
We're getting OT here, but I have to disagree about Legoland ;) I prefer the realistic landscapes in miniland. Using one of two spare spaces in the german miniland to build some moviethemed area isn't making me happy. But of course Star Wars still draws people, and better than nothing.
Dagobert: Where else should Micky Maus-Magazin celebrate? Paris is to far away, I suppose. And Legoland is the biggest german park for their target group and surely has the most experience with corporate events compared to other parks targeted primarily at children.
Quote from: "sven"We're getting OT here, but I have to disagree about Legoland ;) I prefer the realistic landscapes in miniland. Using one of two spare spaces in the german miniland to build some moviethemed area isn't making me happy. But of course Star Wars still draws people, and better than nothing.
Dagobert: Where else should Micky Maus-Magazin celebrate? Paris is to far away, I suppose. And Legoland is the biggest german park for their target group and surely has the most experience with corporate events compared to other parks targeted primarily at children.
I have never been to Legoland Germany, only to the one in Windsor, but I really enjoyed Miniland. I didn't know that the Star Wars land will be in the Miniland.
I totally agree with you that Paris is too far away and since the celebration is hosted by Ehapa and not by Disney, I think it is a good choice. I just wanted to point out that Legoland and the Merlin Entertainment Group is a competitor of Disney and so I think it isn't the best choice to celebrate a Disney product in another themepark. Nevertheless I think the park is a good choice, because, like you've said, it caters the target audience.
Sorry for being :offtopic:
i do agree that this is a new style festival, the only "new" things last year was tspl, and this year they have created new experiences. the fact that they have an unadvertised mini parade/character thing shows that something has changed in management.
Why do you get the previous festival's tickets if you visited on the start date of MMF?
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