What a nightmare it must be for DLP - you finally get the treehouse and labyrinth up to scratch and meanwhile the pirate ship starts to look like this:
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A good paint job is needed here.
What exactly is happening under the ship?
Well you can see the concrete platform the ship is sitting on. Either the water level is lower than it should be or some boards that were covering the gap have gone.
Here's how it looked in 1992:
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Anyone know when and why the colour was changed, getting rid of the black across the middle?
I wouldn't think the water levels are lower or are they? :|
All I know is that strip across the middle with no colour needs to be painted along with the rest of the ship.
Woah, the ship really is in bad condition. I knew it was in bad need of a re-paint but now it's just screaming for some attention. It looks even worse when you compare it to that 1992 picture, the ship looks beautiful in that picture.
My guess is that water level has lowered over the years, it wouldn't be impossible to happen.
Oh dear, it's in a very sad state indeed. Let's hope whoever is in charge pulls their finger out and gives the ship the same treatment as the treehouse and the labyrinth.
It's such a shame because the ship shouldn't have ever gotten into this state. Something should have been done a long time ago. I hope all of the current maintenance problems are fixed before the 20th anniversary, wouldn't that be great?
Now Disney should put all new attractions on hold and should use the money for refurbishment of the whole resort. That's really a bad show!!!
What do you mean by "you finally get the treehouse and labyrinth up to scratch " - in January hadly any of the effects were working in the Labyrinth...
Imagine if they spent the TSPL on refurb and quality entertainment instead. I can wish.
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I thought it looked quite pretty all frozen in last Saturday.
It reminded me of the scene from the live action Peter Pan movie where the ship is frozen in and everything starts to melt and get summery when Pan returns from Neverland with the Darlings.
QuoteI thought it looked quite pretty all frozen in last Saturday.
Yeah, it looks nice from a distance, up until you get closer and realize that Captain Hook has been hunting Peter Pan for quite some years without returning to his ship.
Not that I would consider buying something from the "Galley" in the ship, but does somebody know if it has been open for the last 15 years or so? :)
I've seen it open a couple of times last year. It was open in August for sure.
And I saw it open on of the two days I was there in October as well.
It wasn't open in November, and I didn't check earlier this month so I couldn't tell.
Has anyone seen the ship open in the last six months?
Every time that I'm there I check, but not in the morning or the afternoon. And I've been three times this year.
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I just went a couple of days ago and it wasnt open. I went on the tour guide and the guides didnt seem to think that the ship was being painted any time soon. But the playground next to it was being painted so maybe they'll move onto the ship when they're done.
Quote from: "HelygenC"I just went a couple of days ago and it wasnt open. I went on the tour guide and the guides didnt seem to think that the ship was being painted any time soon. But the playground next to it was being painted so maybe they'll move onto the ship when they're done.
The Pirates' Beach refurbishment was scheduled, but there's no work planned on the ship this fiscal year. I heard rumours it might be refurbished in FY 11.
The ship was closed for guests last year, don't expect to see it reopen any time soon.
I really hopw they refurbish this attraction soon.
It looked a million times better before i just hope they will get it back to how it looked when the parked opened.
I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
Quote from: "Kristof"I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
Really? Really really?? Is that certain??? I just can't believe it! This is soooooooo great news, in fact best news since ... well, I don't know when. They really want to polish everything for the 20th, this is awesome. The castle, Big Thunder Mountain, Captain Hooks ship - all are being refurbished extensively next year! They finally got their priorities right.
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YAAAY! Poor ship, it deserves it :D
Walt is finally heard again from his little cloud in the sky!
When you can't expand, at least keep the Parc up to date and shining! Great stuff this... :thumbs:
Disneyland Paris is on course to look even more beautiful come the 20th Anniversary!
Disneyland Paris is doing a great job with all those refurbishments in the DLP, but I think the WDS could use some more too. They only did the entrance yet (which looks wonderful again!), but Armageddon for example... :roll:
Finally!!! This is great news. With all the refurbs the parc will be shining as a pearl again.
That is great news! Seems a long while just for a ship though!
I'm so pleased - I remember playing on this as a child when I first went and was gutted when after over 10 years it was closed on our visit. I took my partner and was gutted we couldn't go on it and look over Adventure Land from it. It looked so tired, like if you stood on it it would fall apart.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Imagine if they spent the TSPL on refurb and quality entertainment instead. I can wish.
I agree with you. They wasted all that money on stupid toy story rides when Disneyland is rotting away. Insted of adding more ugly rides, fix the old ones and make them look great again! Disney thinks europeans are blind by letting a great park turn into a renovation project and by building those ugly booring toy story things in WDS.
Quote from: "JelleP"Disneyland Paris is doing a great job with all those refurbishments in the DLP, but I think the WDS could use some more too. They only did the entrance yet (which looks wonderful again!), but Armageddon for example... :roll:
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Finally! :D/ =D> But...it took to long. I was really shocked by the stadium of the ship. It looks like you better stay away cause something of it could break and damage your head every moment. EVERYTHING of the ship is damaged. EVERYTHING! YES it´s great that they refurb it now...erm...in februar 2011 but that shouldn´t we get a park (AND RESORT AREA!!) were we don´t are the first people knowing that something need a refurb? We shouldn´t even realise that something could need a refurb. In my opinion the refurb date for captain hook´s ship was around summer 2008 not winter 2010/11.
Finally!! It was about time.
I can't agree more with you. It would have been better to refurbish the parks, the hotels, DV and the resort area with the money spent on TSPL.
Like Riebi already said, the area between the parks and DV is in such a bad condition. Does this area belong to Disney or to the French State? I'm asking this, because there are always French poilce men patrolling. So maybe it belongs to the State and so Disney doesn't spend any money on it.
I might be wrong but I think it belongs to the train station - hence all the people trying to sell you tat when you come out of the park. Blummin' barking dogs etc. Disney don't own it and hence can't move them on.
The captain hook ship has moisture problem !!! So they must destroy and rebuild it in its entirety but it is not planned yet !!!
Quote from: "clems"The captain hook ship has moisture problem !!! So they must destroy and rebuild it in its entirety but it is not planned yet !!!
Really?
I think what he was trying to say is that that would be the best solution (in his opinion), not that this is actually considered.
TimmytimmyTimmy-agree with you there, I havent been for ages but the photos of the park in such a state is so sad.
It is great news the ship is going to get its mych needed makeover!
I wouldnt be surprised if the ship needed replacing in places because of damp, but to replace the whole thing would be one big job. But sometimes replacing the complete thing can be the cheaper alternative
oficially, they wanted to destroy it! nobody can go up in the ship because of the moisture problem and there are no ways of fixig the problem !! so yhey have to build another ship
Quote from: "clems"oficially, they wanted to destroy it! nobody can go up in the ship because of the moisture problem and there are no ways of fixig the problem !! so yhey have to build another ship
And how do you know, you've given no source, this is just a rumour that you have :evil:
I remember when i first went back in 1996, i was only 4 years old, but Captain Hook's Ship was one of my favourite parts of the park, so i find it a shame you can no longer go on the deck anymore.
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not only the pirate sh needs a refurb...
the whole adventure island needs to be reinted
the paint on the stones near water falls is going down :(
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I really hope they return the colour scheme to how it is in those 1996 photos - more red at the top, a brighter beige wood colour all over, a white coat on the masts. It looks far more like something out of Peter Pan, giving a better bridge with Fantasyland. The mermaid also stands out much more in old photos.
When did the colours change?
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Adventureland in Paris is the best looking Adventureland of all. But Disney has to understand that building such a place means keeping it. Disneyland should never be just a themepark. It should always be that speacial place that everybody can like. A rotting ship belongs on the bottom of the ocean.
When they refurb it I hope they add something to the area to make it feel more new:)
I honestly think it has deteriorated VERY quickly. I really don't remember it being that bad last summer but when I saw it yesterday I was very surprised by the state of the paintwork. Has the winter in France been as harsh as it was in the UK? Perhaps that contributed to it somehow?
The last two winters were both -10°C and even lower for long periods of times. I know because I was there both years :)
Quote from: "Anthony"I really hope they return the colour scheme to how it is in those 1996 photos - more red at the top, a brighter beige wood colour all over, a white coat on the masts. It looks far more like something out of Peter Pan, giving a better bridge with Fantasyland. The mermaid also stands out much more in old photos.
When did the colours change?
Well I have a photo from my very first trip in 2001 and it was the new colours already:
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Quote from: "Nicolai"The last two winters were both -10°C and even lower for long periods of times. I know because I was there both years :)
And I thought it was bad enough in March :D
I checked my photos from last year - it needed a paint job but it was no where near as bad as it is now. Definitely got really bad, really quick. Presumably some harsh weather has taken its toll.
Febuary can't come soon enough, the ship looks as if it's going fall apart at any moment :?
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Hopefully the ship makes it through the winter. I have never thought that something like this would ever happen in a Disney Park, even with such a bad situation like DLRP's.
After this long period of no refurbs I think they have to build it now from the ground completely new. :(
Quote from: "Riebi"After this long period of no refurbs I think they have to build it now from the ground completely new. :(
Definatly !
I wonder if they are going to replace Captain Hook's Galley ?
Great they are fixing it. In the men time... build some fences around it so its not that obviious that it in a horrible state!
Quote from: "sebassah"Great they are fixing it. In the men time... build some fences around it so its not that obviious that it in a horrible state!
It might me me... but I didn't saw anything here on this page that says that... :roll:
Quote from: "Kristof"I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
Quote from: "DopeyDad"Quote from: "Kristof"I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
yup, as I said above... can't come soon enough! :x
Quote from: "DopeyDad"Quote from: "Kristof"I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
Fail... :oops:
Yeah clearly they can't do that outside refurb over the winter so it's just going to have to survive until then.
As I said previously, I think it went off really badly over last winter but it definitely appears that most of the damage is basically cosmetic. Fingers crossed therefore that it can be fairly easily fixed.
You so know that they're going to replace with the house & ballons from UP! :lol:
1 February until 31 May 2011... Wow thats a long time!
Quote from: "Nicholas-c"1 February until 31 May 2011... Wow thats a long time!
Pfff...let them take all the time of the world to put it back in it's orginal splendor :thumbs:
The bottom of the boat has deteriorated massively in just a couple of months. Back in late August the wood had only collapsed on the far left, now it's right along the bottom. And there's that one panel which is still just hanging right off... disgusting, really.
If they're seriously waiting till February they'll be lucky to have a ship still standing there.
Will the refurbishment require the whole lagoon to be emptied? Is that even possible?
Quote from: "Anthony"If they're seriously waiting till February they'll be lucky to have a ship still standing there.
Will the refurbishment require the whole lagoon to be emptied? Is that even possible?
I thought the same. Hopefully the ship will last that long. That's refurbishment management by ED SCA, relying on luck. Sorry for being sarcastic.
Quote from: "JelleP"Quote from: "sebassah"Great they are fixing it. In the men time... build some fences around it so its not that obviious that it in a horrible state!
It might me me... but I didn't saw anything here on this page that says that... :roll:
Lol I think you have seen it now ;)
Oh dear, it seems the Galley is beyond salvaging :shock:
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Quote from: "Festival Disney"Oh dear, it seems the Galley is beyond salvaging :shock:
QuoteDesigning Disney Exclusive - Disneyland Paris Breaking News: In 2011, a completely new 'Captain Hook's Galley' will be installed. Confirmed!
A whole new ship? Hopefully it will be the same and not a cheaper version. It's really a shame what happened to this ship. It seems that a new ship is cheaper than a refurb. Is the refurb still planned for the first months in 2011?
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c'mon DLP, do something special!
A complete new ship? Wow, that should cost a lot of money. Now I'm still wondering: Are we getting a second version of Captain Hook's Ship or is that wild rumour of a copy of the Black Pearl coming to DLP not so wild after all? After all, Pirates 4 hits the theaters in summer 2011...
Quote from: "Tuvok"A complete new ship? Wow, that should cost a lot of money. Now I'm still wondering: Are we getting a second version of Captain Hook's Ship or is that wild rumour of a copy of the Black Pearl coming to DLP not so wild after all? After all, Pirates 4 hits the theaters in summer 2011...
No no no, they cannot replace it by the Black Pearl!! It has to be Captain Hook's ship next to Skull Rock!
Quote from: "never2old"Quote from: "Tuvok"A complete new ship? Wow, that should cost a lot of money. Now I'm still wondering: Are we getting a second version of Captain Hook's Ship or is that wild rumour of a copy of the Black Pearl coming to DLP not so wild after all? After all, Pirates 4 hits the theaters in summer 2011...
No no no, they cannot replace it by the Black Pearl!! It has to be Captain Hook's ship next to Skull Rock!
I totally agree with you!!! It wouldn't make any sense to put the Black Pearl next to Skull Rock.
I'm guessing the ship has suffered some bad structural damage in the poor weather and is therefore beyond saving. Perhaps this is why they haven't bothered with repairs; they knew that a new one would be coming in long ago.
Whilst I think the Black Pearl would look incredible because it's an awesome piece of design (and it would fit with PotC better than Captain Hook's galley!), the galley should probably remain for traditions sake.
Quote from: "claire2281"I'm guessing the ship has suffered some bad structural damage in the poor weather and is therefore beyond saving. Perhaps this is why they haven't bothered with repairs; they knew that a new one would be coming in long ago.
Whilst I think the Black Pearl would look incredible because it's an awesome piece of design (and it would fit with PotC better than Captain Hook's galley!), the galley should probably remain for traditions sake.
The Black Pearl looks great, but it wouldn't fit there. Skull Rock isn't featured in any PotC movie, because like the ship the rock belongs to Peter Pan. So that wouldn't make any sense. It would be the same if Disney would add Captain Hook to PotC. It doesn't fit, because it is a different movie and so I think Skull Rock and the Galley should belong to the Neverland part of Adventureland and not mixed with other movies. But that's just my opinion.
Unfortunately Disney of today is run by the consumer products departement, so I can imagine that the Black Pearl could be installed instead of Captain Hook's Galley. How many young people know the Peter Pan movie anymore, but everyone knows PotC and so people will buy more PotC merchandise.
While obviously I am Peter Pan fan and want the ship to stay Captain Hook's ship. If they did change it, it would semi make sense with Pirates right across from it... especially if the rumors of a PotC refurb with the Movie overlays (like the US/Tokyo parks) for the 20th are true. Still think it makes much more sense as Captain Hook's ship with Skull Rock next to it so hopefully it will stay that way :)
Besides, they need to leave it there to respect the transition from Fantasyland to Adventureland; in Fantasyland you have the Peter Pan ride, and then when you cross over to Adventureland, you have Captain Hook's ship and Skull Rock; through Peter Pan and Captain Hook you have a perfect link between Fantasyland, and the pirates of Adventurland. If I remember right, making this transition was one of the reasons behind the swap of Adventureland with Frontierland in Paris (the order of the lands is inversed in the other parks)
Quote from: "never2old"Besides, they need to leave it there to respect the transition from Fantasyland to Adventureland; in Fantasyland you have the Peter Pan ride, and then when you cross over to Adventureland, you have Captain Hook's ship and Skull Rock; through Peter Pan and Captain Hook you have a perfect link between Fantasyland, and the pirates of Adventurland. If I remember right, making this transition was one of the reasons behind the swap of Adventureland with Frontierland in Paris (the order of the lands is inversed in the other parks)
I didn't know that, but it makes sense. The transitions from one land to another are very vell executed in Paris.
I believe the transition is there on the Pinocchio side too, with the covered seating area of Au Chalet de la Marionnette representing Gepettos ship destroyed by Monstro?
I'd hate to see the Galley replaced by the Black Pearl, it's be much too dark against the rockwork. I'd love to see it as a 'version 2' with interactive features, cannons (water?) that guests can fire, wheels that you can turn and raise skeletons holding treasure chests from the deep, and maybe in the vein of next years theme, a Captain Hook meet and greet?
Too much to ask?
Quote from: "Scissorsboi"I believe the transition is there on the Pinocchio side too, with the covered seating area of Au Chalet de la Marionnette representing Gepettos ship destroyed by Monstro?
I'd hate to see the Galley replaced by the Black Pearl, it's be much too dark against the rockwork. I'd love to see it as a 'version 2' with interactive features, cannons (water?) that guests can fire, wheels that you can turn and raise skeletons holding treasure chests from the deep, and maybe in the vein of next years theme, a Captain Hook meet and greet?
Too much to ask?
I think with the amazing things they did at the Space Mountian que in WDW and the Disney Dream Cruise ship some interactive thing on the new ship is not to much to ask for!
I never noticed the destroyed ship from Pinocchio. But Im realy curious to check it now! Black Pearl is a no go. A massive no-go from my perspective. The transition form Fantasyland to Adventure land is amazing the way it is!
The refurbishment teams are replacing all wooden elements on façades and attractions that are extremely exposed to weather and water by resin (which can deal with all of these elements). So that's why they're replacing the entire ship. :-)
Quote from: "Kristof"The refurbishment teams are replacing all wooden elements on façades and attractions that are extremely exposed to weather and water by resin (which can deal with all of these elements). So that's why they're replacing the entire ship. :-)
Are there already attractions that use this material? What exactly is resin? Is it like the material that was used at WDW for the castle and the Main Street buildings? Will the ship still look natural?
So it seems there will be no Balck Pearl in Adventureland when Disney is just replacing the wooden elements of the ship.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Black Pearl replica, as it would be something unique to Disneyland, and while I agree it wouldn't fit with skull rock, we are made to suspend our belief throughout the parks. Having said that, I would equally welcome the return of the Galley, and isn't there a new Peter Pan happening next year? Maybe it will be similar to the Peter Pan show from a few years ago.
Quote from: "Scissorsboi"I believe the transition is there on the Pinocchio side too, with the covered seating area of Au Chalet de la Marionnette representing Gepettos ship destroyed by Monstro?
Yes, you're right, on the Fantasyland side of the restaurant you have the cute side of the Chalet de la Marionette, with the Pinocchio murals and the bright colours, and on the Adventureland side you have Monstro's belly and what remains of the Gepetto's ship wreck, with the barrels, broken sails... It's really well done.
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Quote from: "Kristof"The refurbishment teams are replacing all wooden elements on façades and attractions that are extremely exposed to weather and water by resin (which can deal with all of these elements). So that's why they're replacing the entire ship. :-)
That makes a lot of sense. The problem of the weather and water isn't exactly going to go away so far better to come up with a more permanent solution than have to keep repairing it.
Works starts 1st. Feb. I wonder: will they be ready on february 27th when I visit?? :-k
Quote from: "RichardvG"Works starts 1st. Feb. I wonder: will they be ready on february 27th when I visit?? :-k
Unless there's been a huge change, it won't... Kristof posted this back in July:
Quote from: "Kristof"I'm sure everyone will be pleased to hear a refurb is planned from 1 February until 31 May 2011. :thumbs:
Though if they're completely building a new one, it's not surprising they need a few months!
Anyone seen any change?
is it going to look cheesy, or will it have elegance. eurodisney changes it to tack fest
Quote from: "peter"is it going to look cheesy, or will it have elegance. eurodisney changes it to tack fest
Sorry, do not get you, mind to elaborate in detail?
No change Dopey. I was there last week and it looked ridiculous.
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When does the refurbishment actually start? The ship looks terrible.
the sooner the better in my opinion...
That is really, really bad by a small parks standards, let alone Disney.
are they doing refurbs for everything leading up to the 20th?
It seems like it. :P And I suppose it makes sense. They'd have to start now if they plan on making big changes.
Quote from: "peter"are they doing refurbs for everything leading up to the 20th?
Oh for everything they don´t have the time and as someone say the money. remember they spending
a lot in the new themed year and photolocations.
QuoteIt seems like it. And I suppose it makes sense. They'd have to start now if they plan on making big changes
I don´t think so, there is still a lot to do in this park, yeah now they do the Castle and the fantasyland floor, then the pirate ship, great, but whats with the rest of the park?
don´t get me wrong, its great they do this, but it comes a bit late....
Isn´t it a shame, that the ship hasn´t get his refurb yet? It looked horrible in 2007, it looked sad in 2008 and in 2009, 2010 and 2011 it looked simply disgusting. And we don´t talk about a dark corner like a former fantasyland skyway station at DL C. It´s the centerpiece of the pirate area.
They should better start sooner then later. Wasn´t the start date 1. 02? Were are the workers?
That photo is shocking!
Quote from: "Nicolai"Quote from: "peter"is it going to look cheesy, or will it have elegance. eurodisney changes it to tack fest
Sorry, do not get you, mind to elaborate in detail?
i meant will it become some really obviously fake thing, or will it be the backdrop for a cart thing full of hats
Bump......... :-"
anyone seen any progress at all on this yet?
The refurb (or more acurate: the replacement) will begin from mid April and will be completed in september. The whole ship will be replaced by a brand new one built with more enduring materials to handle Paris's weather conditions.
It's odd but I'm even excited by the idea of them taking the old ship down. To me, that ship is so integral to a DLP holiday and I would often just enjoy finding different views from which to look at it. That's why in it's current disrepair I'll happily wait a few months with no ship to see it back to it's glory.
As long as it comes back. When I was a kid, we had one in Fantasyland in Disneyland. It then disappeared during the remodel of Fantasyland in 1981/2, they were supposed to have it, but it was dropped by accident and never came back. That is why I was so overjoyed to see it in DLP in 1992. But yes, it needs some major TLC - could have been avoided with regular maintenance.
Cannot wait to see a pristine looking ship once more in Adventureland!
1st Feb, then mid April...both come and gone.....when will work start on this?
This is easily the refurb I'm most excited about and a chance for DLP to do things right, c'mon already!
I personally place my bet on later this week or next week, one major reason I can understand why they have not begun is the small matter of Easter weekend. I suspect they wanted some of the park to look normal during this busy weekend, but with the kids returning to school next week hopefully it will begin then.
Maybe this is one of the main factors for why the princesses and pirates party was cancelled: because of the refurb being postponed. Hopefully it will start soon.
Beginning of May, now gone too!
Will they really refrub something like this over peak season? It's so prominent in the the area the visual impact will be significant. I'm starting to wonder if this won't be delayed until after Summer. Which would be a downer as we plan to go for Halloween again this year and I was really looking forward to seeing a nice new 'shiny' ship.
What do you think?
InsideDLParis has said that the water level is being lowered
Yep. It looks like it will begin very soon, now. In fact, I bet that -- today or tomorrow night -- they'll be putting the now seemingly abundant green construction fences around the area. :)
Quote from: "Meph"Yep. It looks like it will begin very soon, now. In fact, I bet that -- today or tomorrow night -- they'll be putting the now seemingly abundant green construction fences around the area. :)
According to sources the 'fences' will be themed scarfolding, like they used on the castle, not just the normal green fences. We'll have to wait and see!
That would make sense, actually. It would be a bit elaborate to have a fence wrapping around an entire part of the river. XD
Dlp.info has posted an update about the refurb:
It can clearly be seen that the water level is lower.
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Thanks for posting the photo's Dagobert!
We saw a little sketch of the scaffolding during the refurbishments presentation (yeah, they even do concept art for refurbishments!). The scrim around the ship won't actually be an image of the ship itself (the shape of which would be hard to replicate in scaffolding) but a collection of old weathered masts and sails surrounding the site, like a number of shipwrecks have washed up into the area.
I wonder what will happen to the old ship? Perhaps they should sell pieces on eBay...
This is how the ship should look like. DCP member Monoxyde has posted a picture from 1993:
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Let's hope this starts soon.
How long does it take to drain a lake? Open the gates and whoosh. Hope we see some scaffolding soon!
Quote from: "DisneyBud"How long does it take to drain a lake? Open the gates and whoosh. Hope we see some scaffolding soon!
Doesn't it require pumping out here?
Quote from: "dagobert"This is how the ship should look like. DCP member Monoxyde has posted a picture from 1993:
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lot but not exactly like the original colours. At the refurb meeting Peggie pointed us to some new gold details, that I
think were particularly at the back of the ship around the top of the stern (such as on those swirly details with a natural wood colour above), which they want to use to show that these pirates are actually successful, overflowing with riches. So it won't just have bold colours with more red and black but shimmering gold too!
I seem to remember reading that they said it would somehow tie in with Pirates of the Caribbean? I suppose this is to hopefully coincide with Capt. Sparrow arriving in the ride.
looks so nice, hope its all done by oct / nov time, when hopefully we can go.
Quote from: "Columbiad"I seem to remember reading that they said it would somehow tie in with Pirates of the Caribbean? I suppose this is to hopefully coincide with Capt. Sparrow arriving in the ride.
Wasn't that part of a rumor about retheming the area to Pirates of the Caribbean a long time ago? Personally i wouldn't mind having the Black Pearl in place to be honest, but i think i just might get chased by a lot of you with torches for saying that :P
That picture above looks really smart, like proper Pirates of the Caribbean with the white sand and blue water!
Quote from: "Columbiad"I seem to remember reading that they said it would somehow tie in with Pirates of the Caribbean? I suppose this is to hopefully coincide with Capt. Sparrow arriving in the ride.
I'll try to remember the exact words there...
Someone asked a question along the lines of "Will this still definitely be a ship from the Peter Pan universe, or will it be tied into Pirates of the Caribbean, with Jack Sparrow?". Peggie Fariss answered rather ambiguously, saying the ship would still be based on Peter Pan "but we might find a way to fit Jack Sparrow in there somewhere".
Looking back, I don't think she was talking about the ship at all but the new animatronics. That one went right over our heads! And in fact I think Sparrow being added to the ride makes him having a bigger presence outside
less likely, because they won't want to detract from his appearance there.
It seems the refurb will start soon, because all the water is gone now:
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It's only a matter of time, now!
It's started! Some pictures from InsideDLParis:
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Thanks for the links!!
Finally it started. Isn't it sad that they let it rotten away and now they have to replace it. It must be an embarassment for the company.
What are the chances of the new ship being in place mid July?
Now this is a sight for sore eyes! Let's see how great it looks when they are done!
yup, I've forgiven DLP a fair bit in the past and I know their financial limitations, but.....mess up the Galley and I'd be very unhappy, in fact anything less than a lasting refurb, with improvements, and still within story would be a shame.
Oh thank god - it was a sad sight the last years and to see it under scaffolding is the best sight on here for a long time ;)
Hopefully they will give it a refurbishment of similar class as the Castle - that would be only fair to Mr. Hook, who has seen his ship slowly rottening away.
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I didn't know that there are fish in the water.
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So is the ship being replaced, or are they just repainting the current one?
Yes, it's being completely replaced! :D
@dagobert
I didn't know there were fish either. :shock: But thanks for posting the photos! At the moment, it looks as though they're still busy putting up the scaffolding. I can't see if anything's been removed.
There have been fish in the water for quite some time. I have this picture of them from last June.
Makes me wonder... when they drained the Adventureland waterways recently to prepare for the scaffholding to go up... what did they do with the fish?! LOL Did they go round trying to catch them all?! LOL!
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DLP info posted this about the fish a while ago
Thanks for the link.
That's a strange rumour and I think it is a joke that people can go fishing in Adventureland.
:P I should think so, but I could see Donald enjoying a quiet spot for fishing once in a while.
Well in Disneyland California, in the early years they offered fishing. But never at DLP. However, the fish help with cleaning the ponds and lakes.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"However, the fish help with cleaning the ponds and lakes.
DLRP should consider putting fish into the Rivers of the Far West.
I'm sure I've seen fish in the Rivers of the Far West a few times.
There are fish in the Rivers of the Far west, that is why the herons are always hanging around.
Quote from: "Meph"I'm sure I've seen fish in the Rivers of the Far West a few times.
Yep... actually, from what I hear the Rivers of the Far West have naturally developed into a self-regulating ecosystem over the years. The most prominent fish species seems to be catfish. I've even seen one or two caught by the resident herons, if not by park guests...
As far as I'm aware the Rivers of the Far West are dirty through theming, as the water both matches the sort of river you would see in the area, and also the murky colour covers the tracks for the boats.
Captain Hook's Ship wise, it's great to see this get cleaned up. I've walked past the area many times, and I still don't 'get' what the Ship is other than a nice addition to the area. I hope in the future it's more clear what it is, and that it goes back to having the Pan characters on it!
argggh! anything happening here?
Quote from: "DopeyDad"argggh! anything happening here?
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Is it definitely being rebuilt entirely from scratch? Is it possible that they could just be replacing the wood and replacing some bits? :)
I'm also wondering if they are really going to replace the whole ship. It doesn't make sense to build scaffolding around it when they are going to rebuild it. Maybe they will save some parts for the new ship.
I'm guessing they need the scaffolding so they can dismantle it a bit at a time safely. The last thing they want is splinters of wood flying everywhere because they decided to take a wrecking ball to it. Also I can't see there being much wrong with the sails and masts, so they may be keeping those and building a more water-resiliant hull.
its probably just to keep everything safe, its bad enough they have to put a giant block in guest view during peak season.
it's.....................all..............................just...................................so.......................slow :cry:
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Are there any notable changes by now? :)
Not yet, but they will probably be doing loads of safety stuff
I get the feeling there isn't going to be a new ship, just a 'touched up' old ship...
It doesn't matter, really, if it ends up being the same. After all, it's a great ship. ;) If they're just replacing its materials, then it would still be a brilliant feature of Adventureland.
Pics from yesterday
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The second and third pictures are really grim
It looks as if they removed the wood and the cannon fell down.
Also if they are putting holes in, do you reckon that is so they can hold up scaffolding
Do somebody know why the refurb started later then first planned?
The ship is for me something at Adventureland as the castle for disneyland park. Is hard to see it all covered during the summer season.
Thanks for the pictures, coruscantpt! Quite disappointing the scrim still hasn't appeared.
Quote from: "Martyn"I get the feeling there isn't going to be a new ship, just a 'touched up' old ship...
We were told quite definitely it would be completely rebuilt.
I'd imagine in the long run they hope it'll work out much more cost-effective to replace the whole ship now, with a design or materials that better withstand the weather, rather than continually throw money at touching up and repairing the original structure (not that they've done that for about 8 years).
^ Music to my ears!
Finally! The themed scaffolding cover has arrived! This is from DisneyCentralPlaza's Facebook page.
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It's not bad at all. ;) On the down side, we won't be seeing any progress on the ship until it's done. XD
I like the colour scheme and style they've used with that.
They're going to have to work pretty damn quick though to get this thing done before the weather starts to turn again. Hopefully this is a sign they're about to get going at good speed.
It's really nice, I'm impressed
I took this photo yesterday. It looked like it was being repaired so I asked one of the cast members what was happening and he said it was being replaced as to repair it would be too expensive and it should be finished by November.
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Nov!! :shock:
I guess we should have expected as much. It's going to be worth the wait. ;)
That seems quick for a rebuild. In it's early days, could guests go on board?
Quote from: "peter"That seems quick for a rebuild. In it's early days, could guests go on board?
Yes, and I think it isn't too long ago. I'd say 5 years? But you could only go on the "ground floor", not even to the steering wheel if I remember right. But nevertheless, it was awesome...Let's hope, the new ship will be as great as this one in its better days and we will be able go on deck again :thumbs:
That seems incredibly cool
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mentions 23rd Oct as a finish date, is it me or does this look more like a refurb than replacement?
But they've already said they are keeping the masts, so those are refurbing
when i was there in august the old ship was all being fibreglassed and from what i thought it looks like they will fibreglass it all on the outter and refurb the structure in the boat
Quote from: "peter"But they've already said they are keeping the masts, so those are refurbing
I'd missed that, I thought it was announced they were completely rebuilding.
Not that I mind, I love the Galley and look forward to seeing it complete, though it won't be on our next visit unfortunately.
They seemed to delay the start so long though, they then seemed to take 2 months to get scaffolding up, they should talk to the Chris down the end of my road, he's have sorted in out over the weekend :D
At least I won't have to see the ship in the terrible state it was in, but it won't be until 2012 I see it complete now :cry:
Does anyone have an update, it must almost be finished by now [-o<
saw it this week and looked very similar to photos above. There wasn't a whole lot of activity on it tbh. There were a few people and a bit of noise, the masts still stripped down as was what of the 'hull' I could see.
Thank you for the update. All I can say is disappointing :(
Here's a photo update from last week, its still difficult to tell what is happening and what progress has been made though!
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And to finish the sign to warn off trespassers!
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the thing I notice most about any photos of the ship, you never actually see anyone actually working on it!!
That's a good point, do they work at night?
dunno, I saw a couple of guys moping about on it when we visited at the beginning of the month.
The other thing though is that I've seen no sign of any rebuild at all, it just looks like the structure has been taken back to the bare material for a repaint.
I guess the bottom half (which suffered the worst damage) will be completely replaced, but I think the main ships structure hasn't changed at all.
I've seen a couple of guys working there two weeks ago, the machinery sounds were quite strange in Adventureland ;)
But I also think that a replacement won't happen, it looks more like an complete refurbishment.
By the way, the area looked quite strange this year. The pirate ship totally covered with scaffoldings, scaffoldings at La Cabane des Robinsons...I hope they will be finished soon ;)
I think doing a complete replacement would have been daft. I mean, if they strip it all back and the underlying structure is completely fine then what's the point in replacing that? Might as well save some money to spend elsewhere.
I wonder if they weren't really sure themselves how much work they were going to have to do until they started taking it apart hence the vagaries about when it will be finished.
Woohoo, colour!
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OK, so was it finished by the end of Oct? :(
Apparently it's been extended to mid December, because they have been too busy on everything else
:cry:
This is what is looked like on Tuesday, the door had been left open so I took the opportunity to get some photos!
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:?
underwhelmed!
That does'nt look like a final finish.
It looks like a December finish is rather optimistic.
Are they knocking the ship down or refurbishing it?
I think there have been plans for replacing it with a new one, but they are refurbishing the old ship now (the better choice in my opinion).
Do you know when it will be fisnished?
Some time next month. :)
dlrp magic says its closed till 16th december inc im there on the 16th hoping itll open a day early!
You might see the scaffolding going down.
I was there last week, people working on it each day, but don't know exactly what they were doing. Disappointed not to be able to see the ship (not been to DLRP for about 8 years) but liked the way they've lit up the scaffolding covers and made it look like pirates are actually at work on it!
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InsideDLParis say it should be open in 2 weeks :D
Some of the finish is visible in this pic
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I may be a bit sad, but I'm genuinely nervous about this being finally finished, I hope it does the time taken justice.
well this was still closed yesterday and i didnt see any work being done this week prob due to the wind and rain!
Any news on this?
I've got a week-and-a-half old photo of it. It's probably not worth posting, though, because it's just the same as what we've seen before. I didn't see anyone working there. :)
I'll be there on the 15th Febuary - really hoping it'll be all done by then.
I wouldn't count on it, maybe they're trying to beat the record for slowest refurb (Studio 1 facade still firmly in the lead!)
I think that simply their original schedule was too tight and they over ran into a time of year when the weather isn't really conducive to completing such a project. I would be very surprised if it wasn't finished by April though.
Finished in April, please?? [-o<
Well, April in which year? ;)
quite! I think April 2011 was a date given at one point, I've given up waiting!
any news? will it be ready soon? I hope so! :D
Based on what I have been reading, it won't be before April.
Quote from: "Someguy"Based on what I have been reading, it won't be before April.
And in May, please?
I just checked a french forum where disney insiders are posting and it seems the ship should be finished in march already :thumbs:.
Quote from: "Someguy"I just checked a french forum where disney insiders are posting and it seems the ship should be finished in march already :thumbs:.
Thank you ! [-o<
It's really hard to tell from the outside but whilst I was looking at the vessel yesterday, I could hear the sounds of workmen actually doing something! When I saw someone with some tools in his hand I tried to take a photo, but he disapeared as soon as he saw my camera! I am sure the workmen must have been told to maintain a low profile in case we all get over excited!!(//http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx319/PeteHawke/P1030281.jpg)
I think even if it is finished in March, they will wait till the 20th anniversary in April to show it to the public.
Maybe we're causing the delay because the workmen are camera shy and we keep taking photos. :P
Quote from: "Meph"Maybe we're causing the delay because the workmen are camera shy and we keep taking photos. :P
:thumbs: I really can´t stop laughing! :lol:
Now you;'ve made me feel bad, that I could be part of the problem!!
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The one worker presumably given this job seems to be getting nearer a finish ;)
We now have our date of completion: the 24th of this month! (Which is apparently the date that three other big projects will be completed. Any ideas what they could be? Central Plaza?)
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Also, the sails and other features are back!
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Looks like they aren't putting black sails (black-pearl-style) as suggested by some rumors.
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Sorry, if this was questioned already, but does anybody know, whether you will be allowed to "board" Captain Hook's Pirate Ship when it's refurbished or will it only be used as background for the Peter-Pan-Show?
I should think you'll be able to go on it, yeah. But they've never mentioned it. :)
It won't be used for the Peter Pan show, though. Sadly, it had its last show a couple of days ago. :(
I'm really looking forward to see the ship again (hopefully in July!!)- refurbished and without fences or anything.
:D/
@insidedlparis is reporting that all the masking has come down, the ship is now visible, although still surrounded by scaffolding.
Can I just say, a big thank you to @insidedlparis for all the information and I would advise everybody to follow their twitter account!
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oh my! Very happy so far. :D/
Maybe all they're doing now is taking down the scaffolding? :D
This looks absolutely amazing - well worth the wait judged from these pictures!
And I am really happy they decided against, what has probably only ever been fan made rumours, about changing the ship into a Black Pearl theme. It belongs to mr. Hook!
Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any differences, so far? There's something different about it, but I can't put my finger on what it is...
Quote from: "Meph"Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any differences, so far? There's something different about it, but I can't put my finger on what it is...
the colours are different. here's a photo from 2009
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The scaffolding is half-way down! She looks amazing! :D
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Pictures I took yesterday...
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Looks really fresh and good! :-)
Looks wonderful, and should definitely be finished for my visit in 4 months.
Wow you really don't realise how badly it needed a refurb until you look at the before pictures. It may have taken longer than expected but it definitely needed doing and there was no point in doing half a job. I can't wait until they take the rest of the scaffolding down so we can see it properly but it's looking really great.
The new ship does look great.
The thing is, this being Disneyland, it should look great all the time, and they never should've let it deteriorate and rot away like they did.
But... well done to all the craftsmen and artists who restored it.
And it's looking as though it's not a new ship after all. I wonder why.
looks lovely, cant wait to see it
Does anybody know if the ship would be used as a show or something???
Also what happened to the Cafe they used to have at the bottom of the ship? It used to be there about 10 years ago!!!
Captain Hook's Pirate Ship open in two weeks !
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It's so wonderful to see the ship in that condition again. Please Disney, don't let that happen again.
Goodness, it's so pretty! I really can't wait to see it in June and photograph the heck out of it, haha.
What a final date for this refurbishment right now, please?
There's no exact date, but it will reopen in about 14 days. :)
Looking good. I can't wait for my pirate mad 3 year old to come face to face with a 'real' pirate ship!
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It looks amazing. Definately worth the wait =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
Whoa. more menacing than it used to be.
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And the water level is back! I can't wait to see it! :D
Finally back to its former glory!
Quite simply amazing! A shame it has taken that long for this sight to be back, but now I just cannot wait to see it in August - it is fab!! :)
Just got back and the ship looks fantastic in person I did have photos but my camera has decided to give up on me, if I get it working I'll post them but I suspect a few others will get there before me.
3 things I'm very happy about
The Galley looks great
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It's looking amazing, I'm so glad it's now open so people can go aboard.
Can't wait to take my son on here. He was looking forward to it last year but he got really sick, and I mean really sick. So this year will be brilliant, and wow how amazing does the ship look after the refurb? Stunning!
Great work, it looks amazing. But please, don't let it deteriorate again. The ship immediately before the refurb was just dreadful. And good that they maintained their sails. This ship belongs to Captain Hook, not Johnny Depp.
The ship is getting new fencing around the beach area so that they can have shows on it, again! :D
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I wonder if they'll maybe adapt the follow the leader show, without guest participation? Although that was a major part of it so maybe not...