All posts about the future expansion/improvements of Disney Village go here. :) :wink:
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And the first news comes from http://www.newsparcs.com (http://www.newsparcs.com), they've made a summary of the coming changes over the next years. Sounds all great!
Disney Village will undergo many changes in the coming years. The new ENX Fantasy Leisure Zone will open in october, inside the Imax building and will feature billiard, bowling, videogames, baby-foot and games for the kids.
After that, a Chinese restaurant will open in the same area.
Within a few years, a new and smaller TGV station will open next to the car park.
The ESPN stadium, a huge sportsbar, will open next to the TGV station.
It will also be the location for the new discotheque of Disney Village, which will probably mean the end of Hurricanes.
And finally, the largest Disney boutique in the resort, the World of Disney store, will open across the ESPN Stadium.
No dates are known, but this is what we can expect the coming years.
It does definately all sound just perfect for Disney Village. I hope they get started on it as soon as possible!
One major good thing about these expansions is that they're all in the "new" area of Disney Village, and so the "old" area will probably because more pleasant as a result. :)
An insider has sent me some interesting information regarding this topic.
QuoteThe current Sports Bar is supposed to be closed next year to be replaced by an Italian restaurant. Apparently, Groupe Flo (which is already operating most the Village's restaurants like Annette's, Café Mickey and King Ludwig's) has rented the space... And because there's this "new Sports Bar" coming up (probably the ESPN thing) nobody is going to miss watching Eurosport at the resort...
Thanks for the info. :wink: Yay, an Italian restaurant! My favourite! :D
I wonder if the Chinese and Italian restaurants will be themed to Disney characters (eg. Mulan), some kind of historical reference (eg. King Ludwigs) or just sterotypically to the country itself. Personally I think Disney characters belong more in the parks, so themes like King Ludwig's would be great... I can't think how they'll turn the exterior of the Sports bar into an Italian theme though. Hopefully the outside seating will be removed anyway, it takes up way too much space... (a roof terrace would be better).
It's also very clear that the "concentrated United States" theming is messed up for good. :lol:
Quote from: "raptor1982"It's also very clear that the "concentrated United States" theming is messed up for good. :lol:
Yeah! There's no going back now... Personally I like the "World Showcase" theme much much more, even if things do look a bit odd so close to each other.
One thing I can't get my head around with this expansion though is the two seperate entrances to Disney Village there will be. The original one has the "Disney Village" arch, but the new one with the big new Disney store and so on won't have anything. Basically, it won't look like it's part of DV at all, just like a few buildings right in the middle of the resort... They need some way of linking the two parts together, or at least making them look like the same part of the resort. Personally I'd like to see a redesigned Disney Village archway (featuring a new logo - and not the boring current one!), and then a scaled-down duplicate put up at the new entrance. I'm also thinking that if they don't put some kind of entrance gate at the new entrance then they won't be able to do security checks, and with a big ESPN Bar and World Of Disney store that are bound to attract huge crowds, that could be a major problem...
why don´t they build a theatre there for ione of the fantatastic productions of dineys theatratical productions??
like beauty and the beats or the lion king....
i thinkit would work quite well...
the Lion King Musical is coming to Paris in september 2006 in the MOgador Theatre. :)
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According to dlrpmagazine.com, Disney Village's infamous red and white columns and the starry night effect of the lights between them will still be no more!
From 16/17th October 2005, work will begin to remove them and also move the central stage to a new location. The work has the aim of improving circulation in the Village and making it a nicer place to spend time.
Hopefully they'll put something in instead though?? It'd look a bit dull without them, and they give the area a nice sense of cosyiness and height... :(
Well, I didn't like the columns, but the stars were so nice! Hopefully they'll re-do all the buildings in a more timeless design...
The work has started in Disney Village! The games have been removed and the stage is being dismanteled.
It's good news that the games are going at least - I always hated them. I wonder what they'll replace the stage area with?
I agree with you Raptor that it's a shame the starry sky is going. I do like the columns (except the dodgy ones with plastic figures in them, and the ones which totally block the paths), but since they don't have them in the new part of Disney Village then I suppose it'll be good to have both sides more similar.
Doesn't this look great:
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DLRP.fr has pictures of the new Nex leasure center!
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I've translated this interesting article from DLRPmagazine. They're finally realising what fans are asking for many years now.
Disney Village will remain under construction untill half december, improving the experience but also the safety of the visitors.
The size of the main entrance will be increased (16 meters instead of 8 ) and will be moved a few meters to be closer to the Vinci car park and to lign up with the flow of guests when the Disneyland park closes, the columns will be removed to improve the visibility, the Central Scene will become a stage for animation. Vegetation and new lightning will be added so that Disney Village becomes a pleasant and warm place.
Backstage will undergo a rehab too for the comfort of the Cast Members.
Excellent! This is all VERY long overdue, but *finally* Disney Village has the chance to renew its image into something much more pleasant. I often read people's thoughts about the resort who love it all apart from Disney Village and think the Village is very tacky and unwelcoming, so perhaps in a few months/years, this will be different.
The change already is amazing - look how good it looks without the central stage!!
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It's so much lighter and brighter already. I just hope they put something good into that space. I hope they remove that pylon/pillar and put some kind of nice outdoor seating/green area there.
As an extra note, I read somewhere that the only pylons they'll be removing are the ones which directly block the path. At first I thought they'd be removing them all, but it seems they won't. I suppose it's expensive to remove ones which are sticking out of buildings, and as long as they don't block a path they're OK. If you go back to page 1 you can see the pylons along the path are missing - it only took me about a week to notice! :lol:
The only unfortunate thing about removing the Central Stage and so on is that it really exaggerates how terrible the architecture is. :(
You can see more photos of the new NEX Arcade on Joel's latest photo hunt: http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20051011/ (http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20051011/)
When I heard they were putting an arcade in there I was a bit worried that it'd be just as horrible as the resort's old arcades, but luckily the new outside company have made it bright, colourful and nicely organised. Different types of activities are in different sections and it looks surprisingly clean and well-designed for an arcade. I expected the bowling to be the small arcade kind, but the bowling they've got in there still looks quite good despite that. It's all new and modern - I hope they keep it that way. :wink:
They should put up some extra exterior decoration and a proper entrance sign for the arcade soon, as seen in the photo on the official site: (which actually looks fake, but it must just be because they've photoshopped the sign onto it, lol)
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What's that car doing there on that picture??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "raptor1982"What's that car doing there on that picture??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yet another
Moteurs... Action! stunt mistake... :roll: :lol:
is it from the stunt show? That's Opel! Looking at that picture i thought it was a Renault! LOL!!! :wink: :P
Quote from: "Jorien"is it from the stunt show? That's Opel! Looking at that picture i thought it was a Renault! LOL!!! :wink: :P
Renault is taking over your mind! I actually meant that maybe another mistake at the stunt show caused the car to land there during one of the stunts... :wink:
The latest on the Disney Village changes are as follows:
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They've taken down a lot of the lights that used to form the starry sky, and that's all. Once they finish that I suppose they'll begin to remove the pillars in the middle of the street. It's surprising how different it looks already without the starry sky wires there. It makes the Village look even more grim and dirty than it did before, because your attention is really drawn to the buildings. I suppose I just need to remember that this is part of a longer program and that in the end it'll all look much better. :)
Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "Jorien"is it from the stunt show? That's Opel! Looking at that picture i thought it was a Renault! LOL!!! :wink: :P
Renault is taking over your mind! I actually meant that maybe another mistake at the stunt show caused the car to land there during one of the stunts... :wink:
I know what you meant.... that's what i meant too! :wink: But it's weird then that it looked like a Renault standing there instead of an Opel, lol! :P
Sorry, i've just got too many Renaults around me all day i think..... :wink:
Quote from: "Jorien"Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "Jorien"is it from the stunt show? That's Opel! Looking at that picture i thought it was a Renault! LOL!!! :wink: :P
Renault is taking over your mind! I actually meant that maybe another mistake at the stunt show caused the car to land there during one of the stunts... :wink:
I know what you meant.... that's what i meant too! :wink: But it's weird then that it looked like a Renault standing there instead of an Opel, lol! :P
Sorry, i've just got too many Renaults around me all day i think..... :wink:
I thought you understood, but I wasn't sure! :D
If it is a Renault, then maybe it's a new prop for outside Laser Blast? It could be Buzz's version of the Reinstella... :o
The first of the pillars has already been removed!
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I wasn't sure how it would look without them, but I think it looks better already! :D I wonder what they'll replace it with? If they leave the space empty then they'll have to redo the paths since there'll be a gap there. I hope they put some flowers and a couple of trees in there, perhaps surrounded by some nice benches... :) Any other ideas?
Pylon number 2 is GONE!
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You can get more of an idea of how the Village will look when they're all gone now. I love it! Just put some trees in those spaces like I said before, and it'll be totally different! :D
The old pylons are now lying on the old DV parking lot:
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funny they didn't remove the statues :d
Quote from: "flor"funny they didn't remove the statues :d
Yeah - I wonder if they'll keep the pylons, for old time's sake, or just throw them away? :?
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The NEX arcade suddenly looks a lot more inviting and interesting, and I still can't believe the changes in DV's main avenue. With only 4 pylons gone and still some horrible black square boxes left, but it looks SO good. The colours of the buildings stand out much more and it just looks much friendlier and nicer-looking, don't you think? :D :D
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Yes, apparently these really are official concept arts from Imagineering, who seem like... orange. A lot. Perhaps too much?
Ah well, it's bright and lively and it looks *way* better than before. After all, this is probably/hopefully just a temporary brighten-up of the area, whilst they're waiting for the Sports Bar and Disney Store to close...
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That wall actually looks REALLY good in orange! It fits in very well with the sign on it and has brightened up the area so much.
Covering the bases of the pylons with that nice wooden decking stuff is a good idea too. It would be expensive to remove them, so I think they made a very good choice. I wonder what they'll actually be used for, though? Will they just be (much needed) places to sit and rest in the Village, or will they maybe feature some plants or something else?
They could really do with a couple of nice trees or something down that main avenue...
They've put up the new 2D signs on NY style sandwiches and the Sports Bar...
:sick: I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that they're hideous...
They look like they were made in Word Art... :lol:
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Yep, they're awful...
Is this a replacement for the old signs they took down? I know they'r going to be getting rid of the Sports Bar soon(ish), but they could have still designed a good 2D sign, rather than just making them look as cheap as possible.
I think you were being generous by suggesting WordArt, Raptor!! :lol:
OK is it me, or should these have gone for good not come right back, or is it some new ones, or are they the same ones that were in the pillars just painted :lol: .
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I hope they have some good plans for DV, 'cause it doesn't look that good anymore...
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Oh my god, bring back pillars bring them back now that looks awful, they should not have tampered with it. Now I realise why on saturday there were 2 guys measuring out the metal on the Disney Store :roll: .
Grandmath explains the idea behind the balls on Disney Central Plaza:
They resemble balloons which got solid while going up the air... :-k
:-s :-s :-s
Feel free to hit me, but I actually quite like the balloons. They're colourful, fun, and attractive for kids. Sure, they're cheap and a bit dodgy/random, but DV has always been so unfriendly for kids, and it's nice that they're attempting to address that now, with the improved design, added colour, etc.
I'm not sure if I fully mean the design has been "improved" though - it was definately a lot more exciting and interesting when they had the columns and starry sky...
I can't understand why they can't put the starry sky back in place, but just have long wires of lights that go right across the main avenue... :?
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It looks quite nice to me. CM Sven says it's more cosy now, which is good! :D
The Rock 'n Roll dancers have been moved backstage.
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The balloons...
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Thanks for the photos! Here's my thoughts:
#1 - Woohoooo!!!!!!
#2 - Uh oh...
#3 - *vomits*
#4 - Meh, not bad I guess...
:lol: I was hoping for some more permanent greenery on those rest areas though - they should have put nice, big trees in the middle or something, not a random collection of pots they found lying around backstage... :(
Quote from: "Baloo":lol: I was hoping for some more permanent greenery on those rest areas though - they should have put nice, big trees in the middle or something, not a random collection of pots they found lying around backstage... :(
LOL!! greenery.......where? Indeed a collection of pots with some branches sticking out! :wink: :lol:
I have to say i like that night view with those balloons though...
Look where they found their inspirition for the balloons in DV!
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That photo is taken in Paris City, a block away from the famous La Fayette department store. The balloons looked a lot better there, with the additional Chinese Lanterns.
Did they really get the inspiration for DV from Printemps? lol
It's a weird coincidence, and I'm not even sure which balloons I prefer! In Disney Village they just ruin a really badly designed metallic structure, whereas in Paris they kinda ruin an ornate old building... hmm :? :lol:
Thanks for the photo, anyway! :D
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Err.. ok. (!) I didn't expect this, but I have to say I think that once they've covered the second side with balloons, it'll balance it all out and probably make it look a bit better. Probably. :? They're only balloons though - it's not like they're hiring Frank Gehry to design anything... :wink:
I can't believe the poor workers have to spend their Christmas putting up those daft balloons, must be annoying! :lol:
As the colour scheme is at the moment, those balloon things don't fit in, but if the big column things get painted (along with everything else of course) I think they might well work :lol: . I will just DIE if they don't have any intension of repainting those awful colours thouhgh... it's a bit strange doing that before hanging the balloons, so i'm getting quite scared :?
I highly doubt a repaint of the columns, simple reason is how much it would cost, what would the point be and after all the balloons are there, how do you paint with those on :? . These are a bit better, though still nothing compared with the original look of the place, which I don't think they will ever be able to beat.
We haven't had a Balloon-Watch update for a while, so here we go!
They're now on lots of the pillars on the right side of the street, and I think it's actually starting to look fairly good...
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So.... dare I ask... what do you think now? I think the street actually looks much better than before. Sure, the cheap, odd balloons are a VERY weird idea, but they bring a *lot* of colour to the place, don't you think? I think sometimes people expect a bit too much from a company with €2bn+ of debt... :wink: Just my thoughts! Now go ahead, tell me you hate them again, everyone! :lol:
Actually, I don't care anymore that much. When I'm in the Village, I just roll my eyes :roll: and continue strolling down the Street. :lol:
QuoteStarting to appear near King Ludwig's:
A 'middle age castle' with colourful (modern) balloons :roll:
Quote from: "flor"A 'middle age castle' with colourful (modern) balloons :roll:
Only in Disney Village at Disneyland Resort Paris... That slogan's going in the next brochure for sure! haha :lol:
I see what you mean about just rolling your eyes now - the place is home to 14 years of bad decisions and cheap fixes - I wonder if it'll *ever* be as cool as we all want it to be?
Well I still don't like it and still loved the original design before they made a mockery of the whole village, really balloons are not the answer especially not on the side with Ludwigs and Rainforest Cafe etc, something more imaginative could have been thought up or maybe they could have just given the columns a rehab instead of taking them away.
The balloons look really great here:
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Special lights have also been added to bring in some extra colour to the area.
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Quote from: "raptor1982"Special lights have also been added to bring in some extra colour to the area.
Wow! That area looks SO good now! The sign on the side of the Sports Bar building looks really cool compared to the one on the front... :?
Another piece of good news now - they're getting rid of the old central stage pillar! This should really open the area up and make it much more attractive...
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The pillar is gone, and it looks so much nicer now! They just need some good seating and perhaps a bit of greenery...
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And look at how colourful the whole Village looks with all the balloons up:
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Your thoughts?
I'm starting to get used to the balloons, strangely it makes the place how it looked before look clutered, though I still prefer the old look of the Village I think the new look is a bit more modern and fits in more with the whole theme strangely.
It's nice to hear some positives! I think that whilst the new ideas for Disney Village decoration/themeing are absolutely insane, they do actually make the place look much more friendly, warm, colourful and Disney-ish than before. :)
Mmmm, even I have to admit that it looks better now when you put those 2 photos together... 8)
I guess I am an exception on the rule... I like the photo from before better. Although the theme already was a mess (look at King Ludwig's Castle), its now even a bigger mess with all the tacky balloons and colours. Although the place seems more friendly and open, I just don't like it. I liked the adult atmosphere of the place with the podium, pilars, starry night effect etc.
Its not really what I had in mind when I got enthousiastic about the project, I guess my expectations were to high. :?
P.S. Does somebody know more about the rumours about the Virgin Megastore, Italian Restaurant, ESPN Zone, World of Disney etc? I haven't heard about it recently...
Quote from: "Maarten"P.S. Does somebody know more about the rumours about the Virgin Megastore, Italian Restaurant, ESPN Zone, World of Disney etc? I haven't heard about it recently...
These seem to have all slipped off the radar completely. They might still happen, but there haven't been any developments or new rumours about them for a long time.
World of Disney was due to open in 2008, ready for the ToT invasion, but I don't know any more than that...
I agree with what you say about Disney Village being a mess. It really is! But I still think it looks better with the new changes rather than without them... It would have been a mess either way, so I think it's better to be a "friendly, open, colourful" mess than a dark, industrial, unfriendly mess! :lol:
Grandmath posted on Disney Central Plaza that the DV projects (ESPN Zone, World of Disney, ...) have been put on standbye until the results of the current developments are in...
However construction for the TGV station (which will be connected to the Vinci Carpark) will begin this year to open mid 2007.
I hope they pick a nice design for that station. With it being TGV, DLRP might not have much of a say in how it looks. Well, I suppose it can't be any *less* magical than the current train station!
what will happen with the current station?
Quote from: "flor"what will happen with the current station?
And why exactly do they need the new one? I've never quite managed to work this out... If you arrive at the new station, then you're on the opposite side of the courtyard to the shuttle buses. It's not like the TGV section of the current station is ever very busy either... :?
I'm not quite sure, but I heard this last year. They want to bring in more highspeed trains from Italy and beyond. They have to stop now at Charles de Gaulle and take the RER to DLRP.
Are there any news about the Village?! I've read anywhere that an Asian restaurant was planned for it, is that right?! I'd like a not-too-expensive restaurant that offers more vegetarian food :)
Quote from: "Nala_84"Are there any news about the Village?! I've read anywhere that an Asian restaurant was planned for it, is that right?! I'd like a not-too-expensive restaurant that offers more vegetarian food :)
I haven't heard any news recently, besides Raptor told us that EuroDisney S.C.A. wants to wait and see if there are any results after the "redesign" of Disney Village. And now you mention vegetarian food, is it hard for a vegetarian to find some decent food in the Resort? I can imagine that it must be hard sometimes because a lot of food overthere is meat, like hotdogs, hamburgers, chicken nuggets etc. :?
The news is already a bit old, but I really want to mention it. DLRP.fr shows some photos of the new banners near the Imax Theater/NEX at Disney Village. Take a look at their site for some more photos. :wink:
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I really like the style of the banners. They look so classy if you ask me. And the nice pictures they used are really cool too! The green poles fit in really well with the new gates at the Fantasia Gardens. Chic. So I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if they would use these banners at the main area of Disney Village as well? They could replace some of the old EuroDisney style poles around Lake Disney too with new poles and banners. At this banners they can show some attractions of the parks. They can use some banners and poles over at Fantasia Gardens too, with some banners featuring the newest attractions and shows like The Legend of the Lion King, Space Mountain: Mission 2, Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast, Toon Studios, Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, Once Upon a Dream Parade, 15th Anniversary or seasonal banners to name a few posibilities. Ofcourse i don't want an overkill, but if they use just a few poles with banners, can integrate it to the landscape, and use the current classy style, I'm all for it. :)
That's a good idea, Maarten--I like these banners, too! Especially the one with Buffalo Bill on it ;)
Well, it wasn't hard for my boyfriend and me to find vegetarian food in the Disneyland Park. It was in 2004 when we both were there for the first time together for two days. We haven't eaten anything in the Parks, so we wanted to eat something at the Village in the evening. But the Sports Bar and New York Style Sandwiches had already sold out their vegetarian Sandwiches, so we had nothing else to eat than some fries at Mc Donald's :(.
So we learned of that day and the next day we decided to eat at the DLP--very yummy noodles and pizza at Colonel Hathi's Pizza Outpost :)!
When we visited DLRP again in October 2005 for two days, we really found much vegetarian food in the parks and we were really happy for that ;)!
We ate a delicious vegetarian Hot Dog at Casey's Corner, noodles and pizza again (Pizzeria Bella Notte) and a halloween-like pumpkin soup *mmmmh*. Not to forget the famous brownies!!
Next time we wanna taste the omelette burger at Videopolis. When we saw it on the menu map, we've already eaten something. And--when we can save a bit money until our next visit--we'll try the Tuki Vegi Burger at the Rainforest Café which I always wanted to visit!! ;)
So I can say that you can find many vegetarian things in the Disneyland Park (I guess in the Studios there's less of it), every restaurant has at least one vegetarian suggestion. But the Village is really bad for us vegetarians coz there's only meat to eat.
Mmh, I'm hungry. Let's talk about food *g* Is there already a thread about the restaurants @ DLRP?
Quote from: "Nala_84"Mmh, I'm hungry. Let's talk about food *g* Is there already a thread about the restaurants @ DLRP?
No! Feel free to start one in either the DLRP, DLP or WDS sections... :wink: I suppose if you want to talk about nice meals you've had then the Trip Reports section might be best actually.
Edit: I've started a new topic in the Trip Reports forum - Restaurant Reviews (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=662).Those banners look brilliant, don't they?! :o If only the rest of Disney Village looked as good as that new section. At least the fact that this section looks so good means that they *do* know how to make something look nice. They just need to use some of that talent on the old area... The original Village street is still crying out desperately for trees, I don't know why they aren't putting any in... :(
I like Maarten's idea of continuing the banners across the resort, I'd definately like to see that. They have those generic resort ones along the walkway to the car parks, why don't they just replace those with some showing specific attractions? I'm not sure if i'd like them in the same style as these Disney Village ones though, they need to give the different areas their own identity. And I personally wouldn't like to see them around Fantasia Gardens, but continuing this kind of style elsewhere would be very very welcome!!
They had at Disney World banners to promote the new rides everywhere at every lamppost. Imagine walking in Main Street with a banner for the X-Treme Stunt Show... Really over the top over there. :lol:
Quote from: "raptor1982"They had at Disney World banners to promote the new rides everywhere at every lamppost. Imagine walking in Main Street with a banner for the X-Treme Stunt Show... Really over the top over there. :lol:
Yeah, I've noticed they do that at other parks. Even in DisneySea they have loads of banners up advertising shows and events... Kinda spoils the area if you ask me.
For Disney Village, though, these are great. The only problem they have there is how different the two areas of the Village are. I think they need to make more attempts to "join them up", just giving each street a name so that the fact that they're so different makes sense would do! "Cheapo Street" and "Posh Street" are the only things I can think of so far... :lol: They do need to "zone" DV though, don't you think?
QuoteEven in DisneySea they have loads of banners up advertising shows and events... Kinda spoils the area if you ask me.
When I was there, they had banners in American Waterfront and it did fit there. It's not like in Paris with the big signs over the station when you enter the park which is most of the time just ugly.
Those are only up during certain season.......
The balloons were phase 1 of the total rehab.
Over the next 3 years the rehab will continue in different zones (Planet Hollywood/Gaumont, the Street, Rainforest/McDonalds, ...) Rehabs, repainting, greenery, ... are supposed to make DV look more appealing to guests and children. Next phase will begin in September. 8)
Source: Grandmath on DCP.
It's good to hear the balloons were only Phase 1 of the refurb (phew!), but...
September?! I know they're short of cash, but COME ON - it needs help NOW! :(
The study bureau that was written out the future of Val d'Europe has send in its creation for a urbanisation contest.... and won! And the good news about this is, that the plan has been put online!
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"benjhappy" at DCP has put some information on that map. Interesting to see the new hotels, convention center and the Village expansion. 8)
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Wonderful plan. I'm really looking forward to that. Sad though that they still haven't figured out the financing behind the convention centre and the adjoining hotel... Originally, they were scheduled to open within the current Val d'Europe development phase (that means: 'till 2007 / 2008)...
Anyway... then plans look promising. Can't wait for the new hotels and the way the Village is expanding... (btw, did anyone else notice that these plans don't include any outdoor parking for the hotels?)
Yeah, I wanted to open that discussion too today. According to me, that won't be hotels. I guess they will just be entertainment facilities, maybe something like Boarwalk at WDW.
Quote from: "raptor1982"I guess they will just be entertainment facilities, maybe something like Boarwalk at WDW.
But they most definitely will be hotels. Disney has indeed agreed on building two new hotels:
"Phase III : les programmes privés
La signature de la phase III, le 9 juillet 2003, devrait conduire le projet EuroDisneyland en France aux deux tiers de son développement trentenaire. Ces programmes privés sont définis, d'ici 2008, autour de 3 objectifs
1/ Renforcer le développement de la station touristique
- création d'un parc d'exposition, d'un centre de conférence et d'un hôtel quatre étoiles de 700 chambres
- réalisation de 2 000 chambres d'hôtels supplémentaires
- renforcement du Disney Village"
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oh ok, I should have read that :lol:
Do you think it will be a Disney hotel, or rather a "partner hotel"? Or maybe something like they did at WDW with Swan and Dolphin?
Everything indicates that these two will be Disney Hotels... They'd be stupid if they weren't Disney branded. (Especially the more business oriented one - DLP's Business Solution seems to be quite succesful...)
Financing these two will be hard... (Maybe that's another reason why they push the extra stay at the Disney Hotels this summer - to get a nicer looking occupany rate at the end of the year to convince investors?)
What really mystifies me: this info about the convetion centre and the two hotels has been out for years... yet there's no discussion about it...
i would like to see a boardwalk style hotel at dlrp
This thread has gone quiet! Anymore news on the hotels etc?
Quote from: "penfold12"This thread has gone quiet! Anymore news on the hotels etc?
Nope, nothing! It's going to take years for them to even get started on those plans, especially now they're focusing everything on the new attractions in the parks.
Here's a general Disney Village update: new sales carts/huts, as pointed out by Patrick in his trip report. I thought it was worth posting them here, they look really good!
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Disney Village's second entrance, near the Gaumont Cinema Complex, is now dressed up with balloons. Quite tacky if you ask me, just like the other balloon aditions last year. Sorry to be negative, but why can't they just continue the style of the main entrance?
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*Breaks down into tears*
The proper balloon balloons were actually on the verge of looking ok - they mix well with the metallic buidlings and towers, I think:
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But these fake plastic balloons are awful, especially with that crappy text and phrases like "Family Fun" plastered across them. It looks more tacky than Blackpool, there's no charm to it, it's just cheap.
I honestly don't know what the future of Disney Village is now. I know they have to concentrate everything on the new attractions, but does that mean DV has to become more awful by the day? It's a serious blackspot right in the middle of the resort - when 2008 finally arrives, they'd better start getting it into shape. Bulldozers if possible.
I have always wondered why the Disney Village in DLRP is made up of imposing, cold metalic buildings in a colder climate. I think the American style village/down town Disney with its low rise "wooden" feel would fit better in our climate
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Joel asks "temporary or permanent" - I really hope it's permanent! Very nice colours, matches the newer DV logo and looks very modern and international, when it could have looked like a bad McDonalds.
Joel's photos of the new balloons make them look nicer than those earlier photos too: http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20061024/ (http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20061024/)
Yeah those decorations look very good. They fill up that large area quite well. 8)
The new decorations looks quite classy indeed. Good job. But I still dislike the balloons at the second entrance of Disney Village, even at good photos they look to tacky to me.
I'm curious to find out more about their plans to enhance Disney Village even more by adding restaurants and shops. Although it's only a fantasy, I would love them to add a Virgin Megastore, House of Blues and World of Disney... but I am afraid it will never get that far. With regard to the rumours it's painfully quite at the moment.
I heard the "second entrance" will probably become the "new entrance". Not too sure how accurate that is, but to push people past the cinema, games arcade, Buffalo Bill etc would be a good idea (for DLRP anyway).
On the whole I'm ok about the new balloons. The font and wording is a bit tacky, but it does mix the balloon concept into the entrance a little. I just wish they'd change that huge red entrance and neon sign. It's the old logo and quite kitsch in my view.
I can't say for sure, but I have heared that they are adding the same red curvings from the main entrance of Disney Village, to the second entrance aswell. I hope you guys understand what I mean. Finally some coherent theming. :)
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Yeah I saw them doing this just as I was on my way to the station, but didn't fancy wheeling my suitcase and everything over there to take a picture... :lol:
It looks really nice, basically like the old red curves but without the edges. More sleek and modern, and quite similar to the newer DV logo in a way. I hope they replace the entire entrance like that.
The magnolia coloured pieces of the column have been cleaned up LOADS too, compared to the others this one really stands out.
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Team Mickey will be officially renamed Disney Fashion sometime this century...
Is it just me, or does that "Hollywod Pictures" sign look a bit cheap, and not at all in the Disney style?
I could say the same for most/all of the stuff in those photos. :(
They're trying though, at least. I can't wait until they have a situation where things are stable enough they can improve and expand the village properly rather than all these quick attempts to brighten it up.
I agree Baloo, but sign writing is quite in expensive in the great scheme of things. The cold metalic look already cheapens this area, its a shame the signage is so bad! Ah well, lets hope after the 15th year they can afford something else
The Village looks absolutely cheap. It looks like a french camping-basar.
Remembering my first visit in 1993 it was sparkling and flashy and full of light. Now it´s an "smorgasbord".
I only can hope they get the money to fix it.
I heard that they're going to add more Disney Characters on the façades of the buildings, to bring more Disney Magic to it.
Quote from: "raptor1982"I heard that they're going to add more Disney Characters on the façades of the buildings, to bring more Disney Magic to it.
They can add as much characters as they want, Disney Village will remain ugly and cold. Although some areas look better then before, I think that they really ripped the heart out of Disney Village when they took away the stage and the starry night effect. To get this place up to the standards of the other Downtown Disney's worldwide, they need more money. As long as they can't afford some real additions and placemakings to this place, nothing will work. But thats just my opinion. :?
I agree Maarten, I never understood the decision to go with the cold metalic design in the first place. The weather is not as forgiving as in WDW or DL, and they designed their areas with low rise wooden outlets full of charm. Instead we are left with cold metalic dated look, which over the years has been cheapend, and now looks tacky and as if it belongs on some cheap sea side town such as Blackpool, trying to evoke the "magic of Disney". We have all been to those cheap theme parks that we moan are trying to feel like Disney, but end up looking cheap and tacky, but in actual fact, thats exactly what the village is!!
The original design was chosen by Michael Eisner because it was designed by a renown designer (and his personal friend), because he view France as a cultural destination with taste, and therefore felt cutting edge desing instead of family freindly themeing was the way to go. 15 years on, it looks cheap dated and tacky! Sorry that was all a bit harsh..... I just wish DLRP had a nightime area that made me feel as warm and welcome as the marketplace etc in wdw
Great posts Maarten and penfold12, I totally agree with both of you.
As an overall pointer, Disney should never ever do modern architecture. Especially not from Frank Gehry!! I'm not sure how they're going to fix DV in the long term, but I think it could actuall be best to return the original street to its more industrial, factory look with a totally American theme. Then, the new street(s) can take up the European or Worldwide themes we've heard rumoured, creating a kind of World Village split into several areas.
What worries me is their lack of commitment to any single vision - where does the new IMAX building fit into all of this? Or the new Vinci car park? They're nice, but it seems someone just saw the art deco of WDS and said "hey, that's nice! let's do that!".
Going back to the original modern architecture thing - aren't you glad they didn't build any of those hotels shown in the back of "From Sketch to Reality"? :shock:
Totally!!! I think that Michael Eisner was trying to be too clever, and appears slightly apologetic about what Disney is all about. It is big and brash and bold, but its done with some much attention and detail that it works. It does not fit in with the culture of modern design, it works best when it creates what people percieve to be real, like MGM, the hollywood that people want to believe it was with its glamour. Just like Epcot's world show case is not really what the country are really like, but what people want them to be like... The UK pavilion is like stepping into Mary Poppins London!
Even worse would of been if they had built the one idea they had instead of the castle, a tall sculpture inspired by Jules Verne.....
But back to the topic, the cheesey frontages added to the existing buildings like King Ludwigs does nothing to help at all. The only building's that I feel sort of work are Annettes and Cafe Mickeys. They are themed, but still stylised and look of higher quality.
Quote from: "penfold12"But back to the topic, the cheesey frontages added to the existing buildings like King Ludwigs does nothing to help at all. The only building's that I feel sort of work are Annettes and Cafe Mickeys. They are themed, but still stylised and look of higher quality.
Does Ludwigs not fit in because the rest of the village is so cold and bland?
Personally I think that most of the facades in the village except for maybe ludwigs are completely nondescript, the whole thing needs a serious makeover, whenever we stay in a Disney hotel that warrants us walking through the village, there is no reaction as such, we kinda know where the stores are, and the restaurants, nothing really prompts a response to look any further than we are already familiar with if that makes any sense.....
Unfortunatly in this day and age it all boils down to profit.
The village to most in a day is the last thing they go to- sort of like a walk throgh at the end of the day before going home. I think more shops will open, selling the same sort of things they are selling now, but more of it, and in more shops, with more advertising to go with it.
I last went in June, and it was quite popular at the weekend, with a great atmosfere during the world cup matches, which where being shown in the village on a big screen, that was nice, but i have a feeling i will be more dissapointed that the disney feeling will have been taken away from the "soul" of the village when i return this june.
As soon as a place connected with Disney becomes more non-disney the feeling of the area will be taken away.
Shame realy...
But with the rehab so to speak of the village, it could be much better then expected :)
I think to truely work, it also needs to attract people who are not staying on the resort. Locals etc. I cant see that many locals wanting to visit the village as it is....
Quote from: "penfold12"I think to truely work, it also needs to attract people who are not staying on the resort. Locals etc. I cant see that many locals wanting to visit the village as it is....
But apparently they do, especially for the cinema. Why else would they be so against showing original language versions of films?
If anything it seems they want to
increase the Disney presence in the village, which is probably quite a good idea. It's just a shame they have both a horrible starting point and a feeble budget.
Considering how much they seem to care about the appearance and quality of the parks these days, I think if the anniversary year is a success 2008-2010 should finally bring some major improvements. We just have to wait... and disable all senses between Lake Disney and the park gates. :wink:
Btw - will our World of Disney be on 2 floors, do you think? From what I can tell the WDW version is only on 1, but the space in Paris is so much smaller.
Also, did you read ESPN are trying to get more well known in Europe? It would be cool if they used the rumoured ESPN Zone near the new parkling lot as a kind of European base - and it's near the Disney Channel Studios too, creating a European Disney TV hub.
Would be nice if they could fit in a Starbucks Stall there !
Nothing like a good Frappuccino :)
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Oh god, Starbucks? Nooooo! :lol:
A Disney coffee shop would be cool though, one thing Disney Village lacks is a good café where you can get a nice drink and snack. Not everyone wants to go in the Sports Bar, and New York Style Sandwiches is too small. If they're still going for the "world showcase" idea, a Vienna theme could be nice.
I also think they should open a small shop called something like "Souvenirs de Paris" and sell their full range of Disney-themed Paris souvenirs, plus a few generic items. It might help to cut a few of those street sellers, as well as cashing in on a good market and theme.
Besides, there's a Starbucks at Val d'Europe.
It would be good to have one in the Disney area seems people might not want to go all the way to Val d'Europe for a coffe !
So what are the present lomg term plans for the village? I remember this time last year there was plenty talk and activity with the pillars being taken down etc, and the talk of a new street and possibly a new themed hotel opposite Sequoia Lodge. It all seems to have gone a littel quite. I always thought that they should expand the offer from WDW & TDL and open a Cirque de Soleil in DLP...
Quote from: "penfold12"and open a Cirque de Soleil in DLP...
I thought dlrp already had enough of cirque de soleil :lol: , halloween and christmas was enough, a full show would just be torture.
I mean an actual CDS show, as in La Nuba at WDW not a wanna be style show
It depends whether there's still enough custom for it after Buffalo Bills. Also, the future plans (back on page 6 or so I think) don't seem to show any kind of new arena/theatre space in particular, just a large conjoined building around the whole massive Gaumont/Ludwigs/McDonalds area.
But then... what about Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show? It can't run forever... or can it? It still seems to be very popular - maybe they should think about another evening or dinner show?
The masterpieces of art continue:
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At least they finally changed the name.
Very nice to see it actually has a new name, though they could have at least changed the balls for something else :lol: . I really like the green for some reason.
Quote from: "PATMAGIC"Very nice to see it actually has a new name, though they could have at least changed the balls for something else :lol:
Haha true - they even went to the trouble of painting them silver... But yes, the mint green is actually quite nice. Reminds me a bit of Disney Vault 28.
I wonder, though, what made them choose orange for the sign? And that font for "fashion"? The word Disney looks strange too, it looks like a fake rip-of brand from a market stall. I'd half expect it to say "Diznee" instead.
It's even more of a shame considering they already have a very very nice Disney Fashion logo scattered around inside:
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Would have looked nice with the green too.
The green looks good, true. BUT the sign itself looks pretty cheap in my opinion. They can do better. :?
Quote from: "Reiana"The green looks good, true. BUT the sign itself looks pretty cheap in my opinion. They can do better. :?
the sign looks kinda outof place, but the green is nice, that's just a really the disney land color if you ask me, I mean around the entire resort you see that sort of colour alot, or am
I going crazy?
I actually think the orange suits the design. It may look a bit bold considering the minty-green background, but it is very eye-grabbing! At least the shade sort of compliments the green too. The new DV is all about vibrancy and the variety of colours, so I think it fits really.
As for the "Disney" font, I'm unsure what the fuss is all about lol. From this angle it looks a bit crushed, but that's all that I notice. The sign is quite simple, minimalistic if you will, but at least it's smart and modern.
Overall it's a very tasteful makeover, although those balls mean nothing now LOL.
Its the whole name of the shop to be honest! I mean "disney fashion", whats that all about.??
That makes it appear cheap and tacky and like some cheap market stall. Think of the Down Town Disney and the thought and themeing that goes into the shops, then look at that photo......
It does not mean they need to spend money, just use a little imagination!
Quote from: "penfold12"It does not mean they need to spend money, just use a little imagination!
I totally agree with your post penfold! Especially the last sentence. The green looks quite good to be honest, but the sign of Disney Fashion itself is simply awful. Anyone with a sense of taste and imagination could have done better for the same amount of money. And thats the worst insult you can make to an Imagineer in my humble opinion. :?
Quote from: "Maarten"Quote from: "penfold12"It does not mean they need to spend money, just use a little imagination!
I totally agree with your post penfold! Especially the last sentence. The green looks quite good to be honest, but the sign of Disney Fashion itself is simply awful. Anyone with a sense of taste and imagination could have done better for the same amount of money. And thats the worst insult you can make to an Imagineer in my humble opinion. :?
Exactly. =D> This is the upsetting thing - they're repainting the stores, they're adding new signs - they obviously have
some money to spend, yet they're just doing
this!!
I think a better name for the shop could have been something like "Mode Disney", something a bit more French... Paris is meant to be fashionable afterall right?
The shop looks like a tribute to Disney's Ugly Betty... :lol:
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Quote from: "Baloo"The shop looks like a tribute to Disney's Ugly Betty... :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I agree about the orange sign, my grandma's 1960's typewriter has better fonts then the one they've used. Orange signs are for made for SOLDEN, BIG SALE, ALL HALF PRICES HERE signs....not for the expensive Disney clothing. (at least IMHO)
GJ :)
About the colours & the sign; it looks sooo much better than on J°o°el's photos! The letters on the sign are actually sticking out.
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Im not usualy this easily convinced, but after looking at the photo from the side angle it looks good! Or maybe im just getting used to the sign lol
ok it is Disney Fashion... What the hell are soccer balls and sports flags are doing over its entrance?...
Lame overall theme...
Quote from: "raptor1982"The letters on the sign are actually sticking out.
When you're saying this, you know Disney Village needs help... :wink:
It looks cheap and tacky-and the fact that the letters stick out-so what? Doesn't make any difference at all really. :roll:
Disappointing.
Quoteso what
Thanks for your honest opinion.
Quote from: "raptor1982"Quoteso what
Thanks for your honest opinion.
No problem! :wink: :lol:
i like disney village how it is! i've been dere 15 times
I hate Disney Village's design, it far too late 80's...
they need to come up with a more timeless design (like the classic design of Downtown Disney @ DLR), because the red/silver pillars and orange roof is soooooooooooooo out-dated
I agree for a full 100%!!!
In my opinion, I really do miss some GOOD and decent entertainment, and the cosy feel to the Village. We often wander around in the village, always ending up at billy bob's to at least have some live music, but to my opinion not much is going on at the village.
I'm prepared to pay, but we need more than just a shopping street, really! Add some palm trees, adjust the lightning and make it feel cosy, remove the ridiculous balloons.
Personally, when they announced the complete overhaul of the village in 2005, and the pillars got removed, I really hoped (and was convinced!!!) that the balloons were just there for a limited period of time, allowing them to continue upgrading thevillage. Unortunately, not much in my opinion has changed to add to the atmosphere.
At least when the pillars were still in place, we had this great star ceiling with the lights connecting the pillars to each other...
I really do hope that after the many changes in both the MK and the studios, they will finally take some time to rethink where they are heading with the Village. they realy can't be serious that a ridiculously expensive and not interesting at all game room (NEX) is going to save the village :)
Just my two cents though...
Yes true, and Karl Holz also agrees. When he was appointed as President of Euro Disney SAS, his first decision that day was to remove the pillars.
Changes are coming, but lets not forget this is a resort in big financial troubles... First they need to bring in the visitors along with their money, then they can start working on the Disney Village expansion and re-theming.
I will spend money in july or august!
Maybe I can find a can for donations at the villages front gates?
:lol:
Hehe the Disney Village relief fund... I'm sure there'll be lots of AP volunteers for it. :wink:
Quote from: "raptor1982"Yes true, and Karl Holz also agrees. When he was appointed as President of Euro Disney SAS, his first decision that day was to remove the pillars.
Which is probably not bad, but in my honest and humble opinion, I believe it was better to wait and find the funds first before starting a job that now is only finished for 50%...
I strongly believe the village looked a lot better with the pillars and the stars on the sky than it looks now...
So even though I believe that Karl Holz is doing the right thing, he shouldn't have started it before he was sure he could actually realise the entire plan...
Like for instance - the new esplanade in front of the studios entrance is going to look ten times better than it was, but I believe that the nice stars on the ground really could have stayed there a little longer, and that there were more urgent things to consider (--> The Village!!!)
People (that he needs to bring in the cash) won't see how bad the ground is in front of the studios (I loved it how it was btw!!!), but they certainly notice how plain the village is and that there is no atmosphere (and hence no reason to stay longer and spend more...)
I've been to DLP for dozens of times now, and I love the atmosphere in tghe parks when it's going dark, so I always try and spend a night at one of the hotels. It wouldn't be the first time though that we felt there was not much we could do at the Village at night though...
Perhaps the suggested musical hall they could add would be a very nice and welcome addition, I believe... I love the Lion King's musical, and Disney has a lot of similar stuff that they could offer! Take broadway as an example - they have so many theatres, yet they are all sold out night after night, playing the same musical for years, so I think there definitely is an audience for that!
Bottom line is people want entertainment and to live the atmosphere... They won't find it in the Village at this time, I'm afraid (who on earth likes going to a big shopping mall to spend their nights!!!)
its true, they really need to sort things out when it comes to Disney Village.
I think there is just SO much potential with it, its a great area, theres already alot of good things in place (cafe mickey, annete's, kind ludwigs, and an area for a stage) so why not build on that and make use of the stage. i remember when i was younger there were always shows going on, even if they were random french ones, but now it just seems bare.
The Village should be moving in the same direction as the parks are with 15th anniversary celebrations! its a perfect time to really restore it!
the star ceiling shud be put back in place, a new stage erected, shows brought in to entertain people, and lighting added to make the place feel exciting and welcoming
whatever happened to the plans for the chinese retaurant, and the italian one replacing the sports bar? they were banded around 2 years ago now!
come on disney village!
What´s going on at the Disney Store at the Village?
dlp.info wrote:
QuoteSince its early days as "Festival Disney" today's Disney Village has undergone many changes - not the least of them cosmetic in an attempt to improve the atmosphere. Just think of all the colorful balloons added in the last year. But not all of the steps are non-controversial. The change of the shop "Team Mickey" to "Disney Clothes" bare of the unique sport themeing of the early years has often been cited by fans as example of a doubtful "improvement" - even so the facade got a fresh paint job in the recent weeks together with the adjacent sections of the building.
But now the crews have arrived at the huge Disney Store - and have taken down the large train station themed marquees above the two entrances toward the main street of the Disney Village. At this point it is not known what kind of replacement will be installed and whether the change on the outside will have any influence on the decorations inside the store. Afterall the train circeling along the outerwalls of the main shoping area was only returned to function a bit more than a year ago.
Pics from the site:
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Do somebody know more about it? Is the concept changing or get it just a new colour?
Correction; Sorry, ive never really explored Disney village much just Mc Donalds area and Cafe Mickey Area. I thought it was new, but i hope it doesnt go its really nice.
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Erm just to let you know that facade has been on that wall for many years already, probably since 1992, not really new is it :wink: . He basically asks the question whether that facade will remain, I personally hope it will, it's definately one of the nicest things in the village now.
Besides, it features the only one-eyed Mickey in the whole resort!! :wink:
Well,I have to confess I haven't noticed it before....Looks beautiful...But that's Disneymagic^^each time you visit it you will discover something new...
Panoramagique joins to the 15th party:
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Nice idea to change the panoramagique suit :D
Well they've done it again, can anyone say urgh :lol: . Really do wish they would stop with this obsession with colour and 2d photoshopped facades.
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OMG!!!! DLP really have absolutely 0 style. I cannot think of one good change they have made to the Village since Cafe Mickey's opened.
Just awful! Unless the plan is to make the entire village so bad that thay have no option but to tear it all down and start again!!!
Is this a bit of this ugly eighties style?? :lol:
Quote from: "Riebi"Is this a bit of this ugly eighties style?? :lol:
NO 80's style is good and retro, this is what I personally like to call hideous and untasteful :lol: .
I don't know what they are thinking, but the village is already belowe the bottom of my list for years...
I can't tell you how many times we have been in the resort wandering around at night and being utterly bored by what we can do... We usually end up in one of the hotel bars, or go to billy bob's, but what else is there to do...
They need a more themed and cosy atmosphere urgently, and put in more entertainment so people are interested in going there and staying there later...
There are so many people in the resort (if you have 30.000+ visiters on days, you have thousands of them that should be able to spend more time and money in the village)
I so much hope that they will finally understand some day that the village deserves more and better!!!! The direction it i sheading now is below disney standards though!!!
Totaly agree. I know that there is the cinema, and Buffalo Bills etc, but we still seem to be just trying to fill time whenever I visit if the parks close at 6pm. I was just trying to think what the difference is at WDW, but it comes down to atmosphere I think. Im always quite happy strolling round down town disney, but the village doesnt have the same feel to it
Exactly!
I must say I've only been to the Paris resort so far (but have been visiting for MANY times now...), but the pictures that I saw from downdown disney look so incredibly good compared to what we have in Paris.
I don't know about the rest of the resort, as I strongly believe that Paris has the most beautiful architecture of all disney resorts (except perhaps DisneySea), judging from the pictures (who the hell came up with the idea of all the boring white buildings at WDW? Look at their Space Mountain -> spice that up with some paint, please...).
But yes - if they would invest some more in the village, I really do believe that Paris would be such a great Disney Resort!!!!!
:pluto: Like most on the board, we are really big Disney fans, We were in the park all last week and walked backwards and forwards through the Disney Village and didn't really notice a lot about the colours on the front of the shops.
There are some pics on dlrp.fr:
The Disney Gallery:
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The World of Toys store:
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Disney Store "rehab":
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Wich words could describe this? :roll: ... coloured to death?[/url]
I'm sure those pictures are quite old, the Disney Store is fully coloured now in orange/pink kinda colours like the rest, as on DLP.info's photo.
I have to stick up for the Village after criticising it through this topic. Sure, the new colours are pretty vomit-worthy, but I felt the street was more welcoming and fresh than I've ever noticed.
They also seem to play different music these days, pop and indie style rock with a more British slant (say Take That, Keane, even an old Oasis song, lol) rather than horrible dance/disco. It was also cool to hear that Disney Store now has its own, unique, loop inside of Disney songs, rather than just playing what's on in the street. Even Disney Fashion looks kinda cool, especially at night. It's not perfect, but I feel slightly less ashamed of DV after that visit. :wink:
Yeah i have to agree with Baloo!
When I saw it last weekend it was quite okay and don't think that this is too bad. The colours and yes the baloons fit together ;)
Only that some baloons are already dirty or taken away is a negative point.
Some concept arts for the disney store from dlrp.fr (C) Disney:
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the full article: http://www.dlrp.fr/actu_disney_village_1124.html (http://www.dlrp.fr/actu_disney_village_1124.html)
The overall picture looks better than I´ve first expected but it's not exactly brilliant IMO. Maybe I must take first a look with my own eyes :wink:
I stand more for a timeless design. And I have fear that it will be oldfashioned in 3 years. But in this time much can be done! :D
im not sure, its like when you print somehting but you are runnin out of ink so some colours are replaced with others making it look well dodgy :?
The stars at the esplanade between Disney village and WDS are back:
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Article from disneytheque:
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Hopefully they won't return those ugly white structures that are used as security points. That looked awfully cheap. Can someone tell me if they have any plans to remove the old entrance gates to Fantasia Gardens/Disneyland Park near the RER/TGV station?
Quote from: "Maarten"Hopefully they won't return those ugly white structures that are used as security points. That looked awfully cheap. Can someone tell me if they have any plans to remove the old entrance gates to Fantasia Gardens/Disneyland Park near the RER/TGV station?
I doubt it, these are currently being used as a quick entrance for people using early morning Extra Magic Hours, to avoid the general rush of crowds through the main gate. (Or at least they were a couple of weeks ago) :wink:
Quote from: "Baloo"I doubt it, these are currently being used as a quick entrance for people using early morning Extra Magic Hours, to avoid the general rush of crowds through the main gate. (Or at least they were a couple of weeks ago) :wink:
Yes, they still are :)
DLRP.fr reports the new esplanade is open for the public!
Here are some pics:
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Looks really nice! I first was a bit sceptic about the flagstones solution but now I´m very happy with it. Hope the new floor will be more durable!
dlp.info reports about a garden exhibition for professionals at Disney Village.
In the corner between Disney Village and Newport Bay Club planters in shape of the giant blossoms are colored up with much flowers.
In the little white tents they sell garden supply.
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QuoteLooks nice but also a bit "oldfashioned"
:?
Anyway... There are already photos about this in the Photos Magiques gallery, since last week.
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And second, this is not related to the Disney Village expansion, it's rather a special event/convention.
That patch of land always looks awful, so this is very very welcome. I hope they keep it as some kind of showcase for the resort's gardeners now.
:wink: maybe "oldfashioned" is the wrong word for it
I was remembered at granny´s old garden with flowers, gardener supply and a lot of cookies. Not something for the thrill people but all guys who like cypres garden will be very amused about the planters (me too :lol: ).
That´s something that I never expected at the modern disney village. :mrgreen:
And I hope they did not just a little gardeners spot, I pray for a flower festival for the hole resort in spring. Will be a wonderful event in may after the easter festivities. :stitch_bounce:
hmm should I make a new topic of "News of the Disney Village"? :cry:
The signs on Disney Store are on there way:
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And a new home for the Mariotts Vacantion Club sales booth near Hotel New York:
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This was already posted in the Photos Magiques update from the beginning of last week.... :?
Oh I´m sorry raptor! :oops: In this case you can delete it :wink:
I found this at http://www.dlrp.fr (http://www.dlrp.fr):
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There Lovely !
those new signages are awful and cheap like anything at Disney Village. They should close it, demolish it and build a brand new area a little bit like Pleasure Island in Orlando. I worked at "Festival Disney" in the early days. it might have been seen as a cold design but at least the shops (Surf Shop, Hollywood Pictures...) and restaurants (Key West, Los Angeles Bar & Grill) where nice. Ok some areas got a good make over but I miss the skylight and the columns. Now it looks like a a hugly food corner same as the one you find in some US malls.
Too bad, realy too bad. They need to spend some money on Disney Villagel. Are the big heads blind or what?
Seems this topic hasn't been active for a while, any more info on DV???
In my opinion, i always think of DV as just something you walk through between the lovely lake and hotels and the well kept park. It all looks rather shabby and old to me now, and i don't really like being around there at night as there isn't much to do. Disney need to make DV seem more liek part of the resort and not just a walkway to the park.
I've never been to DV but have wanted to go but now not sure ? :( :?
And when we thought it couldn't get worse... Behold!
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We need a vomiting emoticon, just for this topic...
i havn't been to the village in about 3 years now, should be good to see whats different
QuoteWe need a vomiting emoticon, just for this topic...
This is the closest we have... :sick:
But I guess it's not expressive enough to describe this photo. :wink:
Hobidobi! It´s nice to see that the village can top itself every time!
It´s there a bad taste party in planning? :lol:
It's funny how visuals can affect the way you feel about a shop. Looking at the exterior of this Disney Store, it gives you the feeling that it's a cheap, tacky, ugly shop with no taste or style. Who would be attracted to go in there? It's clearly the work of the French/European "designers" that also make all the totally non-Disney Halloween and Easter Bunny figures.
Hmmmm, its not great-especially with the E being out as well. It doesnt look like the greatest quality store in the world does it?
£1 shop anyone?
Horror! This is tacky beyond believe. I'm getting a weird Nara Dreamland kind of feeling now, haha. Besides that, I wonder which executive approves these kind of things. Maybe the American Imagineers should take a look at Disney Village.
By the way, the new projection on the Hurricanes building looks quite cool to be honest. :wink:
Quote from: "Maarten"By the way, the new projection on the Hurricanes building looks quite cool to be honest. :wink:
I'm sorry? Got some photos Maarten?
At least Maarten knows to find his way to the Photos Magiques gallery. Thanks Maarten. :wink:
I'm sorry, i'm a bit lazy by nature..... :oops:
Quote from: "Soap"Quote from: "Maarten"By the way, the new projection on the Hurricanes building looks quite cool to be honest. :wink:
I'm sorry? Got some photos Maarten?
Sorry for the confusion. Here's a pic showing the new projection. Its a pity that the quality of the new additions to Disney Village can differ that much. The new stands and these projections seem great in my humble opinion, but on the other hand, at the same time they have created these awful figures at the facade of the Disney Store. :?
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Quote from: "raptor1982"At least Maarten knows to find his way to the Photos Magiques gallery. Thanks Maarten. :wink:
Well, thank you for the great pics once again. Its great to stay updated thanks to your site while there many people like me who can't get to DLP every month or so... :)
Quote from: "raptor1982"And when we thought it couldn't get worse... Behold!
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Oh, God what have they done! That is one is one of the most tackiest things at a disneyland resort, it was better the way it was.
:lol: Look at Donalds eye's!!!
:lol: Donald looks INSANE on that pic.
Why are the two parks getting better and better but the Disney Village is getting worse? I don't understand it! :P
Now that finally the wand is coming down at Epcot, maybe we´re going to see
it reading Disney Village over here at the entrance of DV in DLRP.
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Seeing the big "improvements" over the last weeks in the DV, this would sure be another one. :twisted:
Omg, I cant´s believe what they did to the Disney Store Sign
Buildings get safety rails.
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On Billy Bob's you cant see them, but theres new boards around the top of the roof.
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Hey, that looks GOOD! :shock: Something GOOD added to Disney Village! :shock:
Let me just recover for a few seconds....
It really makes sense to add those bits "sticking out" at the top, since the most horrible thing about Frank Gehry's buildings here is that they usually look like cardboard boxes with no features other than four walls. Just cheap cheap cheap. This is also cheap, but makes them look more respectible. It would have been #1 on my list of improvements, so well done to them. Finally, a success!
I'm guessing the "safety rail" is just prep for the second half of the boards. :)
Quote from: "Baloo"Hey, that looks GOOD! :shock: Something GOOD added to Disney Village! :shock:
Yes and now the must only fix the rest :lol:
Railing-Rescue for the village!
This is one good little touch to the Village, but why can't they do it to the whole place? :o The Disney Village really reminds me of something you'd see at Butlins, and I hate that place.
Truly, Billy Bob's look good indeed... but the Disney store, now honestly :? couldn't they just leave it for now... as everyone already said, it looks cheap, tacky, fake... and really quite scary actually... if I wouldn't know it was at DV, I would sware this was something at Shijingshan Amusement Park (the fake Disneyland)... really rather disappointing.
But I'm definately not saying they should change DV immediately... this is the 15th anniversary year and it's only normal they spend the most attention to the Disneyland Park... and we can't complain about the Studios eighter, me thinks! :shock: they are doing a whole lot at a time according to me... and let's not forget a complete refurb of DV with a new theme and concept would cost incredibly much, budget planning has to alow it too, so let's be patient and the so long awaited new Village will arrive someday, but supposedly that'll be for after the 15th year, and after the opening of the TOT... seems logical to me anyway...
so for now Village will do... but still, couldn't they just have left the Disney Store as it was :? it makes you wanna go to the Imagineering Departement and really make a scene! :P guess they just wanted to do something in the meantime, not knowing what. But I know one thing; as that facade is now, it will not last a year, mark my words... :wink:
Quote from: "RnRCj"This is one good little touch to the Village, but why can't they do it to the whole place? :o The Disney Village really reminds me of something you'd see at Butlins, and I hate that place.
Hey, don't diss :P
Isn't it a shame what they did to that very nice and classy style of the rock art at the Disney Store. Now it looks so cheap and ugly ! What were their thoughts as they paint it like this ?! I really cannot understand why they turned such a beautiful thing into something very very ugly. :( :( :x
Why?!!! I don't understand why they had to make those changes to the rock art on the disney store, probably bored so they decided to paint. The saloon painting looks good though, at least something looks good at disney village.
I hope we see some actual IMPROVEMENTS before my next summer visit. I'm starting to get worried about disney village. It's certainly no downtown disney.
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
they seem to be trying to over-do the decorating somewhat...
Not as bad as it could be though I suppose.
On dlrp.fr are a few new pictures of the Disney Store walls. Well, I think, it doesn't look that bad with all the neonlights.
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Since we use this topic mainly for bashing DV, lets also give credit where credit is due - this new Ben & Jerry's location is lovely! I can't think of anything nicer than relaxing by Lake Disney with an ice cream...
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Looks like it might replace the ugly Studio Catering Co. van... and I think the seating takes the place of an old radio controlled game. Small step for most, one giant leap for DV. :wink:
Wow, it looks great :)
Is it just me or does everyone else want a bowl of ice cream right now :lol:
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Is it just me or does everyone else want a bowl of ice cream right now :lol:
Me too :P :lol:
The new ice cream stall looks really nice! I like the colours! :lol:
I like the posters on the sides of the stall, designed in Ben & Jerry's house style :D
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That poster looks very nice indeed!! Just as the whole stall actually. Great location they chose i think!
LOL I love that poster, very clever and very creative :D Are there any other posters like that?
I like the new Ben & Jerry's stand to. It seems that it has the same design as the other new stands troughout Disney Village. Great. Besides that, the poster seems like a nice link between Ben & Jerry's and its Disney suroundings. :)
Just like it should be, blending sponsors and the Disney Magic. I love that touch. Money is an essentiel part of the parc, but i don't like the big billboards if you know what i mean ;)
Yeah this ice cream stall looks indeed very nice. And with the Poster it really gets totally involved with the Disney stuff. So now I know what I will do in the evening when I'm in DLP in September. Having myself an ice cream at Lake Disney. :wink:
Wow looks really cool! But the prices are expencive! Yees I know it´s ben jerry! And I love the cool flavours! I tink I will be a very poor man after my trip...all in ice cream!
I can only follow Disneyana and Riebi's answers! It's a very sweet, colourful poster and I'll be poor after my trip, but one Ben & Jerry's at DLRP is a must-have :lol:
we should launch a labour union! One scoop for the magicforum tourists for every day of the stay!
There is a long queue in front of it! We seem to be not the only ones who loves it
disney and Ben & Jerry's, couldn't get much better than that! lol
As I see it now with my own eyes: The village looks better then last year. Last year it was a big dirty garbage and now you can go throu it without thinking all the time. NO NO NO!
Latest Addition;
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New Decoration added
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Is there any more news on the Disney Village project? I assume not since it would have been told by now, but who knows. Is the World of Disney store still up on their sleeves?
mmmmmmmmmm I do love ben and jerrys! :D
I like the Disney village now more, then at the beginning. My favorite is still Buffallo Bill's wild west dinner show/ Yeeeehaaa. :wink:
I don't like the Disney Village very much. I think the new lightballoons don't look very well. It looks cheap. I have never seen the old village with the lights on top.
I don't like the Buffalo Bill Show too. We watched the show last year in December and I have to say that the food didn't taste very good.
I have read something about the World of disney Store and the ESPN Zone a few pages before, so are there any new news about the World of Disney Store and ESPN?
Still dont like the village.. Its always been a bit cheap looking and some of the restaurants are just so bad they should be only selling pet food.
needs sorting out
Quote from: "ightenhill"Still dont like the village.. Its always been a bit cheap looking and some of the restaurants are just so bad they should be only selling pet food.
needs sorting out
Well I do like it. I love the Buffalo Bill Wild West Dinner Show, and I love Miss Annie Oakley in that show.
I don't like the Village at all !! I think it is a huge let down when compared to the parks. It completely lacks atmosphere ,seems cold and drab ,it was a bit better when DLP first opened.A few trees and some water features would make a huge difference !!! Just look at what a difference the themeing has made in the Studios !!
Quote from: "Timbo"Just look at what a difference the themeing has made in the Studios !!
Absolutely, I mean if they just did what they have done in the Studios to DV, we could have a completely different looking place :)
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I agree that the village does need some work, but to be honest at night I quite enjoy it. Probably a mixture of darkness and dazzling lights hides the rough patches. So I guess when going through it during the day it's best to close your eyes :wink: #-o
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Epcot_Boy :santa:
To be honest it's never been very "Disney" for me except for the shops but we really enjoy the walk back through and maybe something to eat and drink in the evening on the way to our hotel and it's not that bland really. I guess it's never going to look that good if you compare it to the theming in the parks themselves.
Annettes has great food too ! :-)
DLRP wouldn't be the same without it.
Mr_B
Quote from: "Epcot_Boy"So I guess when going through it during the day it's best to close your eyes :wink: #-o
That's true for Las Vegas as well !
Great at night, but don't walk around in the afternoon. :P
I really like it. The horrible signs don't bother me, i think its fun and really lively. A good way to end a fabby day in the parks!
Quote from: "Parkfisch"Quote from: "Epcot_Boy"So I guess when going through it during the day it's best to close your eyes :wink: #-o
That's true for Las Vegas as well !
Great at night, but don't walk around in the afternoon. :P
definitely agree. disney village looks good at night, but in the day it couldnt look much worse!!
it really does need some thing extra in there but its not that bad just misses that lil bit of extra bang which you expate from a disney place but i think the buffol bill show def helps with adding that extra bit so maybe another big show (with better food tho)
loved the ballon ride as well but it did ruin a bit of the disney magic when you could see behind all the rides
I actually like it, the florida one is much bigger but is it better, i don't think so. I like the idea it is there to walk through on your way back to the hotel and its a place to grab a beer while the wife and kids go shopping. I also think a lot of monet spent on it would be a waste and would much rather it goes into the park, it is someway to eat,shop,drink and to catch a show,does it meet these requirements , i think so.
Planters have been added between the 2 entrances and more are under construction on each side of the Planet Hollywood staircase.
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more new homes for the million and one rabbits of the disney village :D
This has the potential to change the feel of the village. Change it from a cold concrete feel. Are there plans to extend throughout the village, as at present it is confined to near planet Hollywood
Well, here we are. The end of 2007 and they throw us the most unexpected DLRP news of the year... plants in Disney Village. Greenery in Disney Village. Something alive in Disney Village!
The area underneath Planet Hollywood has always been unnecessarily grim. Maybe they can have a go at pressuring the restaurant into cleaning up its globe, unless they're waiting for WALL-E to be released to do a tie-in? :twisted:
Quote from: "Baloo"The area underneath Planet Hollywood has always been unnecessarily grim. Maybe they can have a go at pressuring the restaurant into cleaning up its globe, unless they're waiting for WALL-E to be released to do a tie-in? :twisted:
Or they could finally force Planet Hollywood to repair the broken "Sleeping Beauty Castle" cutout on their facade... which has been broken for almost three years now. :wink:
Quote from: "Baloo"Well, here we are. The end of 2007 and they throw us the most unexpected DLRP news of the year... plants in Disney Village. Greenery in Disney Village. Something alive in Disney Village!
The area underneath Planet Hollywood has always been unnecessarily grim. Maybe they can have a go at pressuring the restaurant into cleaning up its globe, unless they're waiting for WALL-E to be released to do a tie-in? :twisted:
:lol: offf topic; anyone got a photo of it ? :P
Quote:lol: offf topic; anyone got a photo of it ? :P
One page earlier perhaps? :wink:
When I first saw those photos, I thought that it was quite cool, but not a big deal, but when you look at the image below, you realize how great and necessary it really is:
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Yes, the Disney Village needs some improvements and in my opinion it is a really good idea to add some plants and trees, because the village looks like a concrete jungle.
Are there any news about the World of Disney Store?
Greenery for Disney Village - This can only be a good thing :) I'm looking forward to seeing how it will turn out.
Sounds good! Hope they will do more of these and not just at the planet!
To be honest, I am not that fond of the fact that the used these small wooden panels. It doesn't fit Disney Village's style very well and it seems quite cheap to me aswell. On the other hand, everything seems better then the concrete dessert that was there before.
Why can't they create the elevated planters/islands like they have at Downtown Disney in Anaheim for example? Take a look at the left side of the following pic; it shows an elevated planter, which can also be used as a bench.
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Oh Maarten, don't post that photo. :cry:
You're absolutely right though - unless they plan on taking the theme of Disney Village more towards a garden centre, these wooden surrounds are a very poor attempt. To see the planters of Hollywood Boulevard and then see what they can afford in Disney Village.... really, they need to start moving a bit more money towards the village soon. All they need are a few real trees... Some greenery with a bit of height to soften the place.
But as it stands - bravo still, because now they're spending money on plants rather than gaudy Disney Store facades.
Yes it's a little :offtopic: but,
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"When I first saw those photos, I thought that it was quite cool, but not a big deal, but when you look at the image below, you realize how great and necessary it really is:
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I'm not too sure but are you talking about the star at the top of planet hollywood? I know it's a stupid question but i've checked the last few pages and couldn't find anything about that star, i've never noticed it before.
I really don't have a problem with Disney Village, even if the planters don't look that good it is good that they are putting some plants in the Village, so i'm not complaning
Quote from: "-breeno-"Yes it's a little :offtopic: but,
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I'm not too sure but are you talking about the star at the top of planet hollywood? I know it's a stupid question but i've checked the last few pages and couldn't find anything about that star, i've never noticed it before.
No, I wasn't talking about the star, which as far as I am aware has always been there. I was actually referring to how the new planters would change to look of the area. Sorry about the confusion :)
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"No, I wasn't talking about the star, which as far as I am aware has always been there. I was actually referring to how the new planters would change to look of the area. Sorry about the confusion :)
Thanks for clearing this up, i wasn't too sure what you were talking about :oops:
Here are some photos from the new planter at Disney Village. I think they have done a great job. The building and its surroudings looks less plain. Although I am still no fan of the wooden surounding of the planter, the planter in general looks quite promissing. It would be nice if more of these kind of improvements will find its way to the other area's aswell. A long stretched planter in the middle of the street perhaps? Lets hope this is a sign for better things to come for Disney Village in 2008. It needs it and it deserves it. :)
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To be honest I do like the planter ideas to soften the concrete but the trees don't look right at all and I actually think it spoils the look of the planet hollywood dome etc. It would have been better if they'd chosen more larger shrubs instead of the trees.
However any improvement shows they're moving forward ...
Mr_B
Quote from: "Mr_B"To be honest I do like the planter ideas to soften the concrete but the trees don't look right at all and I actually think it spoils the look of the planet hollywood dome etc
I agree about that. Smaller Shrubs and maybe they should revamp the actual globe?
Lets keep going.
I'm not a big fan of the trees at the moment either, they do seem to ruin the look of planet hollywood.
But i am only judging by those pictures, when i see it in real life it could look much better.
I think the trees look a bit messy - As if they weren't placed with care :? On the last pic you can hardly see "Planet" because there's a tree in the way :roll: It is nice to see some greenery in Disney Village though.
Just back.. I made a list of Lows and its a very very very small list (tiny now we have a tower and crush and a studios thats starting to look like a proper disney park).. Im afraid the village is still awful though IMO. The new planters look temporary and pretty poorly executed, Im afraid the problem is you cant gild a slab of concrete with this type of solution.
Ehhh.... do they read this topic?!
The trees are a massive improvement if you ask me, they add a small sense of exploration and hidden detail that you don't normally find in the concrete box of Disney Village.
However... I don't see the point in also using one deciduous tree that looks ugly in winter, why not all evergreen? And the wooden surrounds are increasingly naff. And maybe they should have cleaned the building first rather than make the job harder later.
So, good and bad. But any, even tiny, "good" is different and very very welcome for DV.... :)
Everyone seems to be saying the same thing, and I agree! That said, lets hope this is the begining of greenery being added to the Village as a whole. Following on from Baloo, I have always thought that about ever green trees. Bare branches in the winter just help make everything look cold and uninviting, I have often wondered why DLRP dont insist on using more evergreens. I know they do have them, but I feel they should favour more strongly toward them, especially as there appears to be so many variety!
Well, I think every plant, evergreen or not, is a step in the right direction. And if all trees are going to be everergreen, I think it would look boring somehow.
Yeah!!!! finally some greenery in the village but why there? one of the most impressive things in the village and they cover it up with trees and those horrible metal wires. Come on Disney, think sense
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As you can see it was taken about a month ago. If you look closely to the future World of Disney site (between the Esplanade and the Gaumont Cinema Complex, behind the fences) it seems that some dirt has been moved. In the meantime, on the other side of the christmas market and also behind fences, there seems to be moved dirt aswell and even some boxes/trailers (?). Is it possible that World of Disney or the new Gare TGV are on a go? To be honest, I think that Disney wouldn't start construction before they have announced anything, but I just wanted to show you guys. :)
Hem... Don't want to ruin anyone's hopes, but it seems to me, that those areas always had this "in progress" look since they put those fences. But I'll check them next time I'm walking there, just to be sure. In fact, on DCP a member stated recently that work on the World of Disney would begin at the beginning of 2008 so we never know..
Quote from: "Grandmath"Hem... Don't want to ruin anyone's hopes, but it seems to me, that those areas always had this "in progress" look since they put those fences. But I'll check them next time I'm walking there, just to be sure. In fact, on DCP a member stated recently that work on the World of Disney would begin at the beginning of 2008 so we never know..
Merci Grandmath! Time will tell what's going on (or what isn't ofcourse). Hopefully the member you told us about is reliable so we can welcome World of Disney soon.
Quote from: "Maarten"This photo was posted by member Jollyroger at Disney Central Plaza Forum:
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As you can see it was taken about a month ago. If you look closely to the future World of Disney site (between the Esplanade and the Gaumont Cinema Complex, behind the fences) it seems that some dirt has been moved. In the meantime, on the other side of the christmas market and also behind fences, there seems to be moved dirt aswell and even some boxes/trailers (?). Is it possible that World of Disney or the new Gare TGV are on a go? To be honest, I think that Disney wouldn't start construction before they have announced anything, but I just wanted to show you guys. :)
Two Questions;
Which side is the world of disney going ?
What is "the new Gare TGV" ?
Quote from: "Owain"Two Questions;
Which side is the world of disney going ?
What is "the new Gare TGV" ?
The location of the future World of Disney store is on the right side of the christmas market (behind the fences). In front of the Gaumont Cinema Complex. The new Gare TGV is the new TGV (highspeed train) station which will be located on the empty grounds to the left (right of the Da Vinci Parking).
Quote from: "Maarten"The location of the future World of Disney store is on the right side of the christmas market (behind the fences). In front of the Gaumont Cinema Complex. The new Gare TGV is the new TGV (highspeed train) station which will be located on the empty grounds to the left (right of the Da Vinci Parking).
Thanks for explaining and
Will this be a whole new station or just another platform linking to the main dlrp station ?
Sorry to go off topic
It's kinda on-topic.
It'll literally be just another entrance/exit for the station, another way to get to the platforms, since - according to DLRP - Marne-la-Vallée/Chessy is the busiest high speed rail station in Europe following the opening of TGV Est.
I'm not sure what the thinking is behind it really though, because the station's car park, the taxi ranks, the shuttle buses etc, are all on the other side of the hub. Maybe it links into a future plan of some kind, such as the Conference Centre just south of the new DV car park? Or easier access to Val d'Europe?
Hope the TGV Est will take it station one day at DLRP. Last I´ve heard about was that they now plan to do it "soon". At the moment you just can take the TGV Est to Paris and then take the RER :cry: But that´s off-topic :lol:
I think the new station will have some of the services that the old one has too. Maybe the Taxi-station will then be there and the Resort-Bus-station near the old one or something like this.
Do somebody knows what happend behind all the fences now at DV?
Edit: I'm sorry for messing up the layout. The pictures aren't hosted by me, and they're a bit oversized for this forum's layout.
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There really seems to be a lot going on at Disney Village. Starting of with Café Mickey, where digging the floor will most likely start soon.
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Digging for new planters?
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As wished by a few of you: concrete borders for the planters. I wonder what they will do with the space between the wooden and concrete borders.
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It's good to see they're at least giving Disney Village some much needed attention!
Whoa! So the Tower is done and it looks they've invaded DV! I really didn't expect so much to suddenly happen.
Funny coincidence they're adding concrete borders in front of the wooden ones after we talked about that... Maybe they'll just fill in the gap with more plants, flowers or soil? The Café Mickey thing is hopefully replacing those temporary plant pots with a proper planter, maybe a nicer outside terrace too?
Oh, and they cleaned/repainted Planet Hollywood for Stallone's visit. Can it get much better? :D
This looks pretty good! I'm glad they're finally putting a bit of effort in to fix the DV! :lol:
I like the concrete borders. I'm not to sure about the gap between them and the planters though - I think some of those ground floodlight things would look alright there. Or maybe just some small hedges? :?
This is looking very promising for DV. :D It seems they've finally started to listen to us fans, so hopefully the WDS billboard will be coming down soon :roll: :wink:
Quote from: "Baloo"Oh, and they cleaned/repainted Planet Hollywood for Stallone's visit. Can it get much better? :D
Cool thing! I´ve hoped so much that the clean and repaint this place. It looked a bit used after years.
hi know this might be off topic but has stallone reacently visited,my little girl absolutly adores him has anyone any photos of this....
miss bell :tink:
Quote from: "miss bell"hi know this might be off topic but has stallone reacently visited,my little girl absolutly adores him has anyone any photos of this....
miss bell :tink:
There's a couple of the official blog!
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Looks like he tested his action credentials and scaled the globe to
finally clean it up!! Hurraaah!!
Something got me a little worried. This photo was taken by Raptor recently:
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On this photo it seems like they're done with the work here...
... I really hope they don't leave it like this. The whole construction of these borders seemed so nice.
I guess they'll cover up the area again when they continue with their work?
They must have continued
From Disneytheque;
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Here are some more updates from Disneytheque;
New food stand ?
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What is this ?
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Good pictures, thanks for posting them :)
Quote from: "Owain"New food stand ?
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What is this ?
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I think that stand is a stand for Marriots, they had two of them in July that looked identical to it so it must be.
The other thing looks like an advertisment board to me.
Isn't that green thing a advertisement board with those movie posters. Glad to see they're renewing it, when i last visited this month it had the exact same posters in it as it had in 2006.
Maybe they'll put a screen inside that shows footage? Wouldn't be a bad idea.
with all the work going on in DV are any of the resturants closed????
^^ Nothing is closed!
Quote from: "-breeno-"I think that stand is a stand for Marriots, they had two of them in July that looked identical to it so it must be.
Yeah I think I can see the logo on there. Hopefully this means an end to the ugly and cheap beach hut things.
Raptor, maybe they listened and are fitting a wait times board inside the green stand? :wink:
It's weird to see a giant tree in the middle of Disney Village. Quite good but weird. And why don't they use those evergreen fir trees everywhere? Not tall enough?
Hi all
Does any one have any idea what will fill the gap between the new seats and the planter in disney village. The odd gap between the seat and the actual planter section looks really strange, do you think it will just be filled with soil up to the seat or something else.
Best option I think would be to fill it with soil and plant a small hedge as a border around the seat or a small mental fence as a sort of back rest (or "wall"), as i can imagine kids running along the seats and also running into the planter.
What you think?
Wow! Finally some concrete borders like in Downtown Disney Anaheim like some of us wanted so badly! Its such a simple solution, but I think it will have an enormous impact. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "-breeno-"I think that stand is a stand for Marriots, they had two of them in July that looked identical to it so it must be.
Yeah I think I can see the logo on there. Hopefully this means an end to the ugly and cheap beach hut things.
I'm glad they are finally choosing for one style throughout the entire Disney Village. I really like the style of the stands they have been adding in the past 2 years. Together with the trashcans they seem to have one clear style. I like it. Its great to see the cheap Marriot beach hut structures te be removed permanently.
QuoteIt's weird to see a giant tree in the middle of Disney Village. Quite good but weird. And why don't they use those evergreen fir trees everywhere? Not tall enough?
Yeah, this tree looks a bit sad right now. I prefer evergreens in Disney Village aswell. Well, hopefully they won't forget to install some lights in the trees. ;)
I think the world of disney store will be great and hopefully sell the stuff im looking for and loads more pins! What other things are changing?
Any one know if the seating is finished yet or any of the other village improvements that were taking place?
Disneytheque has some new pics of the area.
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Seems that they integrate the pillow-bottoms in the concrete borders
And yet the gap between the seat and the planter is still there - to be filled with????? Who knows. :?:
Quote from: "131184"And yet the gap between the seat and the planter is still there - to be filled with????? Who knows. :?:
One of the great mysteries of the world! :shock: I also wonder why they can't move the footers of the old pylons, that it becomes so much easier to build a giant border
around them?!
The gap doesn't look deep enough for a hedge, so I'll guess/hope that it'll be some nice colourful flowers.
The place is actually looking like a part of the resort now, a part of the parks... like somewhere you wouldn't mind spending a lazy afternoon or evening, rather than just a thoroughfare between the parks and hotels.
Quote from: "131184"And yet the gap between the seat and the planter is still there - to be filled with????? Who knows. :?:
Hmmm... :-k what are those little round holes inside that border? Lights? Some sort of drainage for maybe some sort of water??? Or well indeed maybe they will fill it with some flowers?
It think they will just put some flowers inside. The red thing inside could be a drainage. Maybeee to let the higher things earlier grow. Flowers are fast to make. But the bushes and trees backside needs its time. And if you wanna build some concrete structurs in time, a good solution.
Some fans on the dlrpfans.be forums are saying that there is allready some work going on, at the place where The World Of Disney Store should come.
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What are they doing on the roof of Planet hollywood?
Probably cleaning that gree.. eehr.. blue ball!
I hope that they do this :mrgreen: From Dirt to blue
I'm not really happy with all the chages to the DV, I think the trees and planters are stupid there is pleanty of greenery either side of it, (New York down to Santa Fe) and the other end to the gates. I i'm looking forward to see what it will be like in the summer with they stupid planters when it is busy
Quote from: "Its Just Like I DreamedIt"I'm not really happy with all the chages to the DV, I think the trees and planters are stupid there is pleanty of greenery either side of it,
I respect everyone's opinion, but I'm just curious why you hate the planters so much. Also, what did you like better about Disney Village before they started adding planters?
The planters will just be in the way, and there was nothing wrong with the DV, nothiing I hated, nothing i loved (well I loved the stary sky)
Respect your opinion but - wow - really nothing you hated?
I can not think of one thing I like about it, its awful in every way shape and form in an ideal world I would have it all pulled down. Next to Disneyland Park it has all the charm of Chernobyl.
Bit extreme but you get my point!
I must say I loved it in the first years. It looked really cool with the stars over you and sometimes a cool laser show and all this neon lights and signs that they pulled down the last years. It looked very cool and stylish in this period but times goes by...
Now I hate it. I hate also the ballons that they make everywhere :roll: But I must say, I love the planters :D
Aside from adding some greenery, the planters all add loads of places to sit, which DV really lacked before.
It still needs that nighttime sparkle back though... Fingers crossed for lights in the new trees.
What do you think the fate of the balloons should be? They look a bit silly/cheap now. Well, more than they did before. :lol:
Yes let´s cross the fingers for more lights and sparkling...sparkling fingers! :lol:
For me it will be a good decission to throw the ballons away. They could replace them with something other (better) like stars:
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Something that doesn´t look silly and cheap at daylight and more cheap at night :lol:
Also the addition or renewing of the lasers(show) at night would be nice.
I've always liked the DV, i like the shops and restaurants etc (mmmm Annettes Diner :lol: ) and i thought the star lights were great but i'm not big into the ballons, they could of done alot better. I don't really mind the planters. If there is one thing i want to see happen to the village is bring back the star lights, and the pillars while there at it but maybe make the metal poles start at a height no one can climb on :)
I don't think it is THAT bad....... :P It does the job, it makes a boring walk more enjoyable with lots of nice shops to entice us to part with our money (and distracts the kids about the long walk - if I hear "are we there yet" I will scream). Gives us somewhere to go in the evening for a nice meal, drink, dance, shop again, watch sport. A place for adults to have a drink and the kids to play about with other kids from all around. I am glad it is there because with the parks closing early, mostly at 7pm when I have visited, there isn't a lot to do in the evening.
I also think the planters will be great to distract from the concrete and give some greenery. Lights on the tree would look magical, so hopefully they will do this. Extra seating always necessary because it is packed after closing the parks and it is hard to find somewhere to sit. I think will all the investment in the parks it is great that they are still doing little things to the village to improve.
Those stars posted look great - good idea.
I don´t think it´s totaly bad :D But I must say that I also remember the times were the village wasn´t just a thing to go through to get to the parks. It was a place to be. That makes me a bit sad. Cause I loved this "open-night-club"-ambience which the village celebrated in the past.
Cutting the pillows and hanging some ballons without concept wasn´t a good solution. But now it´s like that. And I think it´s possible to create a better style with some small steps. The planters is one of them. Making something new instead of the ballons will be another. The also could create some big "arches" in front of every main shop entrance and but it more to the middle of the street. Something what would say "come in" "Gifts? Fun? Food? this way!". To build new facades or give the facades a new cover (Wood or something) can also be great but I think that would cost much money.
At my last trip the village was even at night not a place where people stay very long. the went all back to the hotels or buy very fast last gifts to go then to the hotels. :cry: And that wasn´t the same in the past, before-ballon-era. The made the village nude and forget to give it some clothes again.
But I don´t think the village hasn´t the potential to get again a better entertaining district. I even won´t say "crush it all and rebuild it". It just need some changes which fit in a big concept.
The Village will only benefit from all the improvements,I think the planters will be great,hoping that they add some lights to the trees !!They will break up the corridor feeling of the Village,and take the hard ,cold,industrial feel off the area !! It would be great if they got rid of the balloons ,they look cheap and like something left over from a kids party !! And did something more imaginitive with the lighting. As you can tell I am not a fan of the Village in its current form,we will all have to see how it ends up !!
Ok i'm really embarassed now I actually quite like the village :oops:
I welcome the improvements but i really can't see why most people Hate it so much, And I like the balloons :oops: there i said it, I think they look quite pretty at night all lit up :oops: :oops:
Quote from: "SparrowsGirl"Ok i'm really embarassed now I actually quite like the village :oops:
I welcome the improvements but i really can't see why most people Hate it so much, And I like the balloons :oops: there i said it, I think they look quite pretty at night all lit up :oops: :oops:
Well, don't be ashamed, i don't think they are that bad! Yes, it can get better in the future, but for now they are making great progress ;)
I like the balloons also they add colour at night and take the edge off the industrial feel that others have said. An overall i think the village is kinda kool, abstract and wacky although it could obviously be improved by things like the planters.
Only news is that the concrete curbs around the tree by annette's have been completed;
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From; Disneytheque.com
I know this picture is a few days old but they are really taking there time over this.
Looks like the orange pipe contains a black wire, may be it will be to power lights in the tree?
I wonder if they have anything else planed for the village in the short term?
Lights in the trees would be very nice :mrgreen:
Quote from: "Riebi"Lights in the trees would be very nice :mrgreen:
I think essential !!! lol Add a bit of Disney magic to the area,something it sadly lacks !
not sure if its been mentioned but outside Cafe Mickey they are laying new pavement.
The unthinkable is happening... They're giving the Planet Hollywood globe a new coat of paint!! :shock:
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More pics in the Photos Magiques newsupdate from past weekend (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/news_7-9_03_08.php).
Cool pics raptor! Do they make this "Cloudy-effect" later or is it a new color style?
Seems to happen a lot at café mickey with this long term fences. I think the new plants at Disney Fashion will give the store a better entrance. Will look very nice after planting. I´m very intersted what the do at billy bobs and the signs. Hope they won´t give it a cheap new one.
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Rotkäppchen-Casting??? ("Little Red Riding Hood" in english) :lol:
The games arcade remember myself at old times. I remember in the early 90th there was also one at this corner.
Sometimes wonders just happen when you least expect them to..... :shock:
Great to see that blue is becoming blue again instead of greenish....
Quote from: "Riebi"Cool pics raptor! Do they make this "Cloudy-effect" later or is it a new color style?
Rotkäppchen-Casting??? ("Little Red Riding Hood" in english) :lol:
The games arcade remember myself at old times. I remember in the early 90th there was also one at this corner.
I think the white cloudy bits will be added later. Next job: repaint/replace the purple 2D bits at the side! They're horrible!!
Little Red Riding Hood -- :lol: :lol: It's a bit mean making them wear uniform to DLRP. What kind of schools do trips to Disneyland anyway??! We were only ever allowed "educational" ones.
The games arcade is interesting. Looks like they finally gave up and realised no-one can be bothered walking around to NEX.
You know, now would be a good time to get rid of that horrible carousel by Rainforest Café.
It's amazing what a coat of paint can do. It brings back the newness of when it was first built, all over again. Looking at the photos, it will look spectacular when it's all finished. :D/
So far I've been pretty enthusiastic about the recent changes to Disney Village.
But there's also time for a complaint! ;) Not really a huge one, but I've been wondering if the newly created borders will stay like this, or that they will receive another layer of coating. I would mainly like to see another layer of coating to hide the main base of these borders, because they look a bit ugly at some parts.
I'm sure they stay the same. It's how the other ones outside Disney Village look like since the park opened, so I wouldn't expect many changes there.
Quote from: "Baloo"I think the white cloudy bits will be added later. Next job: repaint/replace the purple 2D bits at the side! They're horrible!!
Little Red Riding Hood -- :lol: :lol: It's a bit mean making them wear uniform to DLRP. What kind of schools do trips to Disneyland anyway??! We were only ever allowed "educational" ones.
We even not have school uniforms at germany to wear :lol: Are they comfortable? :lol:
The other parts of planet hollywood looks now more faded away then ever before. The must repaint it.
Maybe they fettle the bottom parts of the concretborders a bit.
Quote from: "raptor1982"It's how the other ones outside Disney Village look like since the park opened, so I wouldn't expect many changes there.
It's always funny when you discover something new, even after having visited the resort a billion times. ;)
I've really never paid any attention to those bases... But now they're creating these borders again in Disney Village, it seem to bother me. I guess I'm just being very critical about anything they do these days.
I wonder if it is Disney or Planet Hollywood Group that pay for the re-paint, its interesting to note that the Planet Hollywood at WDW has only recently been re-painted and that was in a very bad shape I would say worse than DLRP.
^^ I think -- well, I hope -- they would pay for it! But maybe DLRP crews actually do the work or something?
Grandmath has posted some interesting snippets on DCP (//http://disneycentralplaza.englishboard.net/disneyland-resort-paris-f6/le-developpement-du-disney-village-t57-300.htm), let me translate:
Quote from: "Grandmath"Regarding the development of Disney Village, it's moving forward... two new dining companies (light / quick service) are planned in the next year. I can't tell you which, but one of them can already be found at WDW.
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((Someone asks if they will be new buildings or take the place of something))
New buildings, thankfully! (But they won't be massive, don't fantasize, lol) But not on the new esplanade. For that, you'll have to wait a little longer, even if things are rumoured...
I don't have any more information to give, so stay patient (I think there will be a press release in not too long, a few months or so).
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((Chat about the type of building, which WDW company it could be))
As DynastyGo has said, I'd say they will be proper buildings (and not stands). However I don't know where the contracts are at and if the names can be revealed, so I won't say any more. But these projects are very real and I think they'll bring something extra to DV (even if you want the bigger projects like World of Disney that always get pushed back).
And if this hasn't happened in the next few months, you've got the right to insult me... lol
The only DTD dining I can imagine coming to DV on a small scale is Earl of Sandwich, which does have an interesting note added to its Wikipedia entry:
"Earl of Sandwich currently has franchising plans for all over the United States and the United Kingdom, including the Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. The first Earl of Sandwich franchise is open in Sugar Land, Texas, and is owned by Nolan Ryan and Roger Clements."
So they're planning new franchises right now? Could be... could be... Exciting news anyway, whoever it is.
An Earl of Sandwich would be great. It was one of my favourite quick service eateries at WDW... and it would definitely add to what DLRP is offering when it comes to fast food...
To give you an idea: the Earl of Sandwich is like a MUCH BETTER Subway where not all of the sandwiches taste the same. :wink: They also had great salads and soups, too. And I adored the Earl Grey flavoured lemonade...
Anyway... It seems that La Rouquine and Kinoo are reporting on DCP, that the Disney Village might also welcome a Starbucks next year. One more step closer to making the DV a regular mall - but it's hard to criticize considering that I love those overpriced Vanilla Lattes and scones... (Now if they'd also sell Bionade like here in Germany, you guys know where you can find me then. :wink: )
just a note on the lovely (not) balloons ain DV with the winds on tuesday the 3 balloons on the cafe mickey post popped and one was even removed as it was pulled out of the wall. i do have a photo pf this and when i figure how to put on here small enough i will.
Quote from: "experiment627"An Earl of Sandwich would be great. It was one of my favourite quick service eateries at WDW... and it would definitely add to what DLRP is offering when it comes to fast food...
To give you an idea: the Earl of Sandwich is like a MUCH BETTER Subway where not all of the sandwiches taste the same. :wink: They also had great salads and soups, too. And I adored the Earl Grey flavoured lemonade...
Anyway... It seems that La Rouquine and Kinoo are reporting on DCP, that the Disney Village might also welcome a Starbucks next year. One more step closer to making the DV a regular mall - but it's hard to criticize considering that I love those overpriced Vanilla Lattes and scones... (Now if they'd also sell Bionade like here in Germany, you guys know where you can find me then. :wink: )
I don't know what Earl of Sandwich is like but I always thought a Subway in Disney Village would be a great idea. I like Subway and I don't think that all the sandwiches
taste the same but if you say its even better then I'm really looking forward to it. I think it fits well because its something different from burgers,chips etc...
It's good to see the DV fetting some well deserved TLC, mabey they could start on the hotel next, last year when I went to Santa Fe it was looking very run down (sorry a bit off topic)
At DCP they are talking about a Starbucks at Disney Village! How great would that be!
Edit: Already posted , sorry ;)
Just posted above! :wink:
Quote from: "experiment627"Anyway... It seems that La Rouquine and Kinoo are reporting on DCP, that the Disney Village might also welcome a Starbucks next year. One more step closer to making the DV a regular mall - but it's hard to criticize considering that I love those overpriced Vanilla Lattes and scones... (Now if they'd also sell Bionade like here in Germany, you guys know where you can find me then. :wink: )
It's definitely the new McDonalds in world domination terms, but since we've already got one of those - why not have a Starbucks, hey? It's exactly the kind of thing DV needs, just somewhere nice to sit down and get a normal drink. I'm actually even a bit worried that that spot wouldn't be big enough for a proper building with seats inside. Considering the amount of guaranteed customers, I hope Starbucks would put some good money into a nice little building there, that doesn't look cheap from across the lake.
A Subway style place would also be welcome, but what about New York Style Sandwiches?
:roll: Personally, I've always liked the food at The New York sandwich bar but it usually seems to be full when I need to use it. A Subway or something similar would be very welcome, lets face it, somethimes you just don't feel like a full cooked meal.
woohoo we love starbucks in my house so much so my other half has just been promoted from barrista to shift supervisor in our local starbucks, we just checked and we dont get discount in the French branches - oh well, this would go down well with everyone i suppose, they only sell fair trade organic biscuits and organic juices and the coffee is fair trade too. Plus I love strawberry and cream frappucinos, and skinny cinnamon dolce latte. Hope this rumour is true
I think both companies would be a great add to DV! It's getting better and better, they are small steps, but they are steps nontheless! :D
Hope the rumours are true!
I would like to see a new disney village area. As in...
in WDW you have the market place and the west side. I would say that our current village is like the west side and what we are missing is the market place.
I prefer the meandering walkways and the higgledy piggledy layout of the shop units. Where as the Disney village is just a straight row of shops. Maybe future plans could be to extend from that into a "village". The greenery could help the blending.
In terms of construction the current DV would have been cheaper to build, but the cost savings where needed.
Alpop, there is/was a large expansion area (//http://membres.lycos.fr/conceptartdlp/Images/projets/disney_village%20plan_2000.jpg) planned for Disney Village.
I knew there were plans, but hadn't realised that they were fully mapped out yet.
Any improvements would be great anyway, but I do miss the strings of lights across the DV.
Earl of Sandwich and Starbucks sound like great additions to Disney Village. I can't wait to find out what other additions and improvements they have in store for us. Just look at the past 3 months... hopefully they will keep improving the place, as they've already downgraded it too much over the years. Starbucks and Earl of Sandwich are a step in the right direction, especially since they will be getting real building instead of cheap structures.
By the way, isn't it possible for Disney to expand Disney Village and share construction costs with outside companies who are allowed to operate at Disney Village like Rainforest Cafe, McDonalds, Gaumont or Planet Hollywood?
Quote from: "Maarten"By the way, isn't it possible for Disney to expand Disney Village and share construction costs with outside companies who are allowed to operate at Disney Village like Rainforest Cafe, McDonalds, Gaumont or Planet Hollywood?
I'm not sure how those co-operations are arranged, but I guess the companies pay a big deal to actually be on property. They're probably only interested in paying for further development when they get more publicity by the resort.
This sounds really good, its good to see additions!
There are again new pics at Disneytheque to watch:
:arrow: http://www.disneytheque.com/index.php?/ ... llage.html (http://www.disneytheque.com/index.php?/archives/82-Lactu-du-Disney-Village.html)
Including the entrance fences and the fences at New york style sandwiches, the new trees at Disney fashion and the ongoing work at Planet Hollywood
Ah, so I see they've filled the gaps behind the concrete borders with soil! Doesn't look bad actually - Better than being left empty.
I see they've taken down part of the Sleeping Beauty's Castle from the Planet Hollywood facade.
Yeees! Hope they will make the rest of the facade new too!
Quote from: "RnRCj"I see they've taken down part of the Sleeping Beauty's Castle from the Planet Hollywood facade.
Unfortunately Planet Hollywood's Le Chateau has been incomplete for over a few months now, at least since the summer as far as I can confirm. It shows you how bad the state of Planet Holywood's facade actually is.
Quote from: "Maarten"Quote from: "RnRCj"I see they've taken down part of the Sleeping Beauty's Castle from the Planet Hollywood facade.
Unfortunately Planet Hollywood's Le Chateau has been incomplete for over a few months now, at least since the summer as far as I can confirm. It shows you how bad the state of Planet Holywood's facade actually is.
My mind must be playing tricks on me then - I was sure it was there a few weeks ago!
Sleeping Beauty Castle on Planet Hollywood was partially destroyed a long time ago. Last time I was at the resort, 2 weeks ago, its remainings were still there.
Edit: it was already destroyed in 2004.
Ive never actually noticed the castle on the facade. Does anyone have a photo of it before it was destroyed ?
Tadaaaa:
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At DLRP.TV Baloo dug a wonderful video up about mainly BBWWS:
//http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2008/03/24/dlrptv-still-the-wildest-of-the-west/
beside the hair dresses of the early 90s (I had also a very intersting hair cut :oops:) there´re many shots around Disney village - Festival Disney at this time :mrgreen: - that gives an impression how the area looks before the balloooons and without planet hollywood. In place of the big blue ball we find a woooodden horse which I loved much at this time :D and much of neons at night!
Some fresh photos from Disney Village can be found at Photos Magiques here:
http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/n ... _03_08.php (http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/news_25-26_03_08.php)
:D
They are doing a great job! Well done!
But when is it all finished?? I'm visiting the parc at the beginning of April, hope there aren't that many fences left ;)
Wow! Thanks so much for this update! Looks very like Bob the Builder Land :lol:
But I´m very interested in the finished village!
I´ve tried to make a little map about where the new plants grow to understand the developements better. Maybe someone can say where to add other plants and things.
I know the map looks a bit cheesy :mrgreen: But my time was little :lol:
I also try to figure out where the new area for the new little food locations (Starbucks? EoS?) could be.
Cheesy, but handy :P
And making all the pictures somewhat more understandable on location ;)
Thx!
Disney desperatly needs somewhere that you can buy a decent cup of coffe, I haven't had one there yet. Roll on Starbucks that's all I can say.
New trees again at Disneyvillage!
Disneytheque has some pictures of the new trees in front of Billy Bobs and Sports Bar.
Aaaaand there are colored lights at the trees!!! Hope we can see soon some night shots!
//http://www.disneytheque.com/index.php?/archives/82-Lactu-du-Disney-Village.html
There are also some very intersting pics from the future concress centre area! The digging has begun!
Do somebody know if they use the old sketch for it or a diffrent designed one?
I put what Disneytheque said into google translate and it came up with this;
QuoteTrees now take possession of terraces Sports Bar and the Billy Bob's. As might be expected, at dusk, a few lights will illuminate the via what looks to a strong fibre optic system, a few cables deployed rapidly changing color. From beside the Café Mickey, the ongoing work on the terrace of continuing and now, we can see the structure to cover the scene. Finally, on the site of the future convention centre, the work of survey began in a few weeks. However, it will have to wait a few months before the project begins.
Seems intresting, thanks for the news Riebi
Has someone the old concept arts of this old convention centre they planned in 1992? I didn´t find them again. Lost in space or in my pc :lol:
I just know that I didn´t like them as much as the other things they planned :lol:
Quote from: "Riebi"Has someone the old concept arts of this old convention centre they planned in 1992?
I remeber those concept arts. For as far as my memory goes, the convention centre would be just as modern as Disney Village.
I wonder if they've chosen for a more themed option as they're pretty aware now the old Festival Disney concept has failed.
It would have been in the same style as the Imax façade.
Concept art below.
Thank you raptor! Looks really huge! I´ve only seen this sketches but not this concept art here. There you can better see the dimension of it!
New photos from Scrooge on DMI can confirm that the new food/drink stand will be by Coca-Cola:
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Link (//http://www.disneymagicinteractive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1169&start=105)
That advert inspired sign at the roof looks a bit ............ ugly :?: :!:
It doesn´t seems to match the other things around
Quote from: "Riebi"That advert inspired sign at the roof looks a bit ............ ugly :?: :!:
It doesn´t seems to match the other things around
Agreed! What Disney Village needs is to step away from the abstract style... This sign is a step in the other direction... :?
Is this just a small food stand? Surely all that decoration is a bit over the top for a snack stand? Especially when it doesn't fit in with the surroundings.
This looks terrible !!! We will have to wait the hoardings come down to get a proper idea though ......but still ! :(
Quote from: "Remco K."Quote from: "Riebi"That advert inspired sign at the roof looks a bit ............ ugly :?: :!:
It doesn´t seems to match the other things around
Agreed! What Disney Village needs is to step away from the abstract style... This sign is a step in the other direction... :?
The sign is an official Coca-Cola design... so take it up with them.
Coca Cola's "Pause & Play at Disney Village" has finally opened for business. It can be reached from two sides; the Disney Village side near Annette's Diner and the Esplanade side.
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Personally, I like the design on the stand, it compliments Annette's/50s theme very well. I'm not too sure about the structure on top of the stand though. Its quite weird to see that they have even removed part of the Disney Village gate above it.
Source: Scrooge at DMI
I must say, with the sign under this advert-inspired structure it looks very muuuuuch much better. How small things can make a diffrence. Maybe I should wait next time till they are finished with all stuff.
I like that you can go to the counters from both sides. But what does they do with this disney village lightsign-structure above? Do they close it again or give it a better close-part?
Looks far better now we can see the complete structure.
Not a chance that the extended DV sign has been taken down as it's going to be updated? It is looking tired and uses the old version of the logo from years ago still.
The stand looks pretty good! I'm surpised to see such a nice designed stand after having seen a first glimpse of the sign. Guess that learns me to refrain from a final opinion before having actually seen the final result... :wink:
I have to agree it doesn't look quite as bad as I expected !!! Would be interesting to see a long shot with the DV sign missing above it
Some new pictures by Disneytheque:
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Source: Disneytheque.com (//http://disneytheque.com/index.php?/archives/82-Lactu-du-Disney-Village.html)
i should go to the village this next visit :p haven't been since 2003
Oh my gosh... who would have thought it possible? The Village looks actually quite inviting... Can't wait for what's still in store... =D>
At some parts (Billy Bobs, Cafe mickey) it seems a bit that they just take the fences down for the press with this woooodden things at the bottom. The terrasse at the sports bar looks wonderful! Like that mix of greenery, wood and nice tables. Can´t wait to see it at night with the lights in the trees!
The new food kiosk looks also like a good neighbour for the diner!
OMG! The village looks..... :shock:
AMAZING ! :D
The terrace infront of the sports bar and sandwiche place is very nice looks like itd be lovely on a sunny day or on a dry night especially with the planters.
The Brick work looks nice around that tree too.
And the coca-cola food stand is really nice :)
Well Done DLRP =D>
The village is looking better than ever :wink:
Quote from: "Owain"OMG! The village looks..... :shock:
AMAZING ! :D
The terrace infront of the sports bar and sandwiche place is very nice looks like itd be lovely on a sunny day or on a dry night especially with the planters.
The Brick work looks nice around that tree too.
And the coca-cola food stand is really nice :)
Well Done DLRP =D>
The village is looking better than ever :wink:
I couldn't have said it better myself :wink:
Hmmm. I think "AMAZING" is a bit of a strong word, but it's... Nicer. And the sunshine helps.
Although I could have done without the plastic banner around Cafe Mickey.
This looks like a huge improvement ,far more inviting now.It does make the balloon lights seem even worse though.... or is it just me as they are a pet hate of mine !!!
Quote from: "pussinboots"Hmmm. I think "AMAZING" is a bit of a strong word
It's amazing for Disney Village lets put it that way :wink: :roll:
Quote from: "pussinboots"Hmmm. I think "AMAZING" is a bit of a strong word, but it's... Nicer.
Although I could have done without the plastic banner around Cafe Mickey.
It looks amazing especially considering how it looked before. I really enjoyed strolling around the area.
I also want to point out that construction workers continued working since yesterday. Work on Café Mickey is far from done. Construction fences came down to give a better impression to the press.
QuoteAnd the sunshine helps.
It looked good covered in snow too.
Why do they keep those ugly colours balloons ... :?
Quote from: "raptor1982"I really enjoyed strolling around the area.
That sounds really great! Seems to be a really turn from "Let us go fast trough" to "enjoying"
Quote from: "raptor1982"I also want to point out that construction workers continued working since yesterday. Work on Café Mickey is far from done. Construction fences came down to give a better impression to the press.
Yes I spot this wood things all around. Would be interesting how all this would look finished.
And yes I also don´t like the ballons and like something like we discussed some page before:
//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=458&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=300
What I've been wondering earlier: why don't they just remove the footers of the former pillars? It can't be that hard to remove some concrete. I can't see the point of keeping them. They've been used as platform for some planters, but I guess that was just done because it was the easiest way to quickly dress them.
You would expect them to remove these footers during such an extensive rehab.
Maybe it´s to hard for them to remove this. Could be something inside that can´t be removed with less effort. A lepricon or something :mrgreen:
A lot of the footers have been removed. The ones remaining will be used as small stages.
Quote from: "Remco K."What I've been wondering earlier: why don't they just remove the footers of the former pillars? It can't be that hard to remove some concrete. I can't see the point of keeping them. They've been used as platform for some planters, but I guess that was just done because it was the easiest way to quickly dress them.
You would expect them to remove these footers during such an extensive rehab.
I have to agree , seems odd that these have been left as they are !! even if they built a raised wall around them and turned them into to planters or better still a water feature it would be a huge improvement . Maybe they are not finished with the area yet and we will have to wait a little longer !
QuoteI have to agree , seems odd that these have been left as they are !! even if they built a raised wall around them and turned them into to planters or better still a water feature it would be a huge improvement . Maybe they are not finished with the area yet and we will have to wait a little longer !
I explained in the previous post why some are still there!
I think the last posting overlapped with yours !!
I really like the new improvements in DV, it just made the area a much more enjoyable and pleasant place to be in. :D/ Well done DLRP =D>
Good to hear that! Are the lights in the trees now on at night ?
i found 2 pictures at dlp.info from billy bobs how it looks now. I like the trees and it dosent look to cheap :)
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I think the very plastic looking cover looks very cheap however overall its much better. It helps, along with the trees the building sit better into the street scene rather than an ugly box with a few chairs outside. Another small step in the right direction.
I think it looks okay! but I think I red somewhere that there will be a balcony?!
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Arno
Well i kinda like this. It's indeed much more of street instead of some industrial place!
Keep up the good work!
Well a balcony? Where? Hmmm..... :-k
It looks a bit strange 2 times Billy Bob's above eachother, don't it?
Well, I think, it looks pretty good :D I like it very much.
Balcony? I think, the part behind the trees is some kinda dining area. So you can sit in the shadow behind some trees and watch pepole pass by. Nice. =D>
I like the trees there much. Don´t know why but I´m falling in love with them :mrgreen:
For the terrace I need a not as close pic to get the whole area.
scrooge from DMI has posted some other pics showing the renovation of Planet Hollywood and the terrasses of Billy Bobs and Café mickey:
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What I like:
I like the trees in front of Billy Bobs and I also like the terrasse which remember myself at Paris. I like also this wonderful chairs at billy bobs.
It´s great that the continue the refurb of planet hollywood.
I don´t like:
The terrasse at Café Mickey looks a bit hm too fast builded and not finished. Hope we see some planters there too.
I also would like to see a big neon sign back at Billy Bob´s.
I'm so relieved the windows in that Café Mickey extension aren't actually opaque/smoked. It must have just been stickers whilst they were building it. The logo and silhouette of Goofy looks good enough. I still wonder how dark it is in the actual restaurant now though...
And that horrible plastic/PVC banner is still around the top?! Yuk! It looks like a cheap kids birthday. That has got to be temporary.
Billy Bob's looks a million times better, so cosy and inviting. The plants are really stylised and specific to the building, the terrace and chairs and tables actually look quite classy. Even the plastic cover I can just about deal with.
The Village now isn't quite so far off the Downtown Disneys after all. For the first time ever, I really... liked it last month and would happily spend time there. The "Disney Village Radio" can still be a bit tacky, but they do play more British music now which is definitely a good thing. Not that French pop music is bad or anything. :-"
Quote from: "Riebi"What I like:
I like the trees in front of Billy Bobs and I also like the terrasse which remember myself at Paris. I like also this wonderful chairs at billy bobs.
It´s great that the continue the refurb of planet hollywood.
I really like how the terrace turned out. They created a nice, small, private space at Bolly Bob's
Quote from: "Riebi"I don´t like:
The terrasse at Café Mickey looks a bit hm too fast builded and not finished. Hope we see some planters there too.
I also would like to see a big neon sign back at Billy Bob´s.
The Café Mickey extension looks good. Though I would've prefered the grey/blackish parts in another color, like yellow or something.
Yes. That could be better. Hope the take this PVC banner away from café mickey.
The rest is a wonderfull improvement for the village!
Mousy.be shares some pics:
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New Sign
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white glow comes back to planet hollywood
They reports also that sequoia lodge is repainted and some other shots from 8.5. around the resort (Mickey at Adventureland!!! for example)
:arrow: Mousy.be: //http://home.scarlet.be/~tsi83178/photonews8mei08.html
At first I didn't like the Disney Village, it looked a little bit like a concret dessert, but now the Village looks really good with the trees and plants. Let's hope that a World of Disney Store and an ESPN Zone will come to the Disney Village in the near future too.
Wow! Thanks for the pic's! I haven't been in for a few days and in that short time Disney Village has really changed! Maybe I'll venture out there more often now.
Quote from: "dagobert"At first I didn't like the Disney Village, it looked a little bit like a concret dessert, but now the Village looks really good with the trees and plants. Let's hope that a World of Disney Store and an ESPN Zone will come to the Disney Village in the near future too.
I remember when I first came to DLRP in 1995 after having spent a week in Florida. It was raining, cold, and Disney Village had this industrial feel to it. Really a turn off. It's gotten a lot of attention these past couple years while Karl Holz has been CEO and I really appreciate it. I hope his successor keeps up the momentum!
Has someone any pics of the village at night? With the new lights at the trees etc.?
from themeparkreview:
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I think thats something that wasnt mentioned ? The lights on the planter walls !
The village is looking lovely ! :)
I like the blue lights on the planter walls. Nothing spectacular but its a nice touch. Billy Bob's terrasse seems like a winner aswell, very Parisian! Hopefully they will return Billy Bob's neon sign soon and turn the fiber optics in the trees on aswell.
By the way, I heared a rumour recently that Hurricanes will be closed down as soon as the rumoured ESPN Zone will open its doors near World of Disney and the Imax Theater. That way the popular Rainforest Cafe can expand to the upper floor of the building. I'm not sure if these rumours contain any truth, but I just wanted to share it with you all.
Quote from: "Maarten"I like the blue lights on the planter walls. Nothing spectacular but its a nice touch. Billy Bob's terrasse seems like a winner aswell, very Parisian! Hopefully they will return Billy Bob's neon sign soon and turn the fiber optics in the trees on aswell.
Same here! It´s really a nice little detail this lights at the planters! Hope it looks even better if the light up the treelights. Thanks for posting this pic!
Seeing a billy bobs neon sign return again would be also a nice touch.
Quote from: "Maarten"By the way, I heared a rumour recently that Hurricanes will be closed down as soon as the rumoured ESPN Zone will open its doors near World of Disney and the Imax Theater. That way the popular Rainforest Cafe can expand to the upper floor of the building. I'm not sure if these rumours contain any truth, but I just wanted to share it with you all.
Ohhh :o hopefully its true ! [-o< :D
Sorry for asking, but what's that ESPN Zone? ESPN i know has to do with sport, but what about night time entertainment?
I don't really like Hurricanes, but it is the only real nighttime club @ The Village....
I'm assuming that the ESPN Zone is like a sports bar/club. Sports bars are very popular, I've never been to one as I don't think they look that great. If I be wrong about what this place will be then please correct me.
I think it would be great for World of Disney and ESPN (whatever it is) to come to the Village. Tbh any additions to the DV is a good thing. If the Rainforest cafe gets to use the upper floor too that would be cool as its always really busy and they need more seating to help cover the demand.
Quote from: "peep"I'm assuming that the ESPN Zone is like a sports bar/club. Sports bars are very popular, I've never been to one as I don't think they look that great. If I be wrong about what this place will be then please correct me.
I think it would be great for World of Disney and ESPN (whatever it is) to come to the Village. Tbh any additions to the DV is a good thing. If the Rainforest cafe gets to use the upper floor too that would be cool as its always really busy and they need more seating to help cover the demand.
A regular ESPN Zone offers several experiences, all under one roof. Guests are able to dine while watching sports or play interactive games at an arcade. There's often a shop called SportsCenter Studio Store (similar to the shop at Rainforest Cafe and Planet Hollywood) and a bar. I can't really figure out if they have a discotheque similar to Hurricanes though.
There are eight ESPN Zone's throughout the United States, including one at Downtown Disney in Anaheim California.
If you would like to find out more; //http://www.espnzone.com/
Just to add to anyone who doesnt no, ESPN is just like Sky Sports accept its for america and its owned by Dinsey (ABC) not Sky.
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Can Someone Tell Me What's Happened to the half of the Mickey Logo, on this Building?? Since when has it disappeared???
For those who don't get my descriptve of what I'm wondering is Missing can have a look at this
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The new Canopy makes it look more European. Yet looking at it again... It looks like an extension has taken place... but I'm not entirely sure... Could Someone Enlighten me Please?
Great Photo By The Way!
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Can Someone Tell Me What's Happened to the half of the Mickey Logo, on this Building?? Since when has it disappeared???
So when i see it right this is the site to hotel new york and the mickey logo is on the entrance at the other site but correct me if im wrong...
Yeah Captain Pan, you're looking at the other side of the building! :wink:
The terrace turned out alright really. Ok, nasty plastic kids party decorations around the outside, but inside they've made a really good effort to make it match up:
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It's a little bit "IKEA in a circus tent" though. I think I'd feel a bit cheated paying the same price for food here as inside, it's just not the same. And isn't the restaurant really dark now?
Disney Village on the whole looks amazing with the leaves on the trees:
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For the first time in this topic's long and slightly depressing history, we can use this... =D>
I'm missing the Mickey Ears... They seem just to be gone... and I liked the ears... They were for me a piece of my first snippet of disney experience (They were the first things I saw after a long, LONG, bus trip and a drop off at Sequoia Lodge) That was Disney to me... And It made me want to eat there... And I did then and there at that very moment.
Did you notice what I just said..? :-s
The photo was taken from a different angle, that's all.
Wonderful Pics! The cafe mickey inside could really be a bit dark now.
On the other hand the village looks great with all this greens around. It seems to "stretch" the route between the hotels and the parks in a positive way. Disney Village looks bigger, greener but also closer then before.
I must admit, quite like these additions to the disney village! Sad to see that Café Mickey logo go though, :(. Like to walk through here in summer, should be nice this year! :D
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
The plastic covering on the exterior of Cafe Mickey's newly build covered terrasse really has to go, it looks awful and very cheap aswell. There must be a better solution for this. :|
Maybe it´s just a winter solution and in summer they open the windowsfront? Or is it solid?
I read somewhere that they were going to put a Starbucks there, has anyone else heard this? Do you know anymore details about it?
Yes some pages ago is the discussion about it :mrgreen: :
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I would love a Starbucks there... Another reason to go!
Thank you for the link, I've just had a little read :)
Quote from: "dlrp-mad"Sad to see that Café Mickey logo go though, :(.
It's still there!!!
Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "dlrp-mad"Sad to see that Café Mickey logo go though, :(.
It's still there!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Is this now the running gag in this topic?! :lol:
User 1: Sad that the logo isn´t there
Baloo: It´s still there!!!
User 2: Reallllly sad that the log isn´t there
Baloo: It´s still there!!!
Maybe they only mean that it´s sad the logo isn´t at the picture :mrgreen:
:D haha,
Sorry about that :)
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Quote from: "dlrp-mad":D haha,
Sorry about that :)
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Its my fault really... :roll: ... I put it down to exam stress... Yes everything can be brought back to that 8-[
So is the logo there or not? :lol:
Only kidding
Maybe we shouldn't have joked... I've just got an email from someone at DLRP, and it seems they are now preparing to remove the old Café Mickey sign. With the Billy Bob's, Sports Bar, etc, signs that used to stick out into the walkway gone, it seems Café Mickey is next for a 2D cardboard cut-out look.
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Hopefully we'll also get another new PVC plastic awning too. :wink:
Of course not... but maybe this'd be interesting - if you could remove one thing from DV, what would it be?
I know it's not fair to pick on newcomers, but that Pause & Play food kiosk is really hideous. And the name makes no sense.
Fences went up at Disney Village again:
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What do you suppose is going on behind them?
The rest of the pillar bases are being removed. :)
I'm still struck how green Disney Village looks like in pictures now! :shock:
QuoteOf course not... but maybe this'd be interesting - if you could remove one thing from DV, what would it be?
The rest of the pillars on the roofs and all other signs of the metal tiles. :!:
Totaly agree Raptor!
So, any chance of them replacing the bases currently being removed with more flower beds and trees?
Obviously they will need to re cover the floor area after digging up and removing the pillar bases, so maybe there is an option for something else to be added rather than just a little more concrete flooring?
It just looks lovely in that first photo Remco posted. Lovely. Even just a few months ago I never thought I'd be saying that about DV. They've really turned it around this time, finally. =D>
Quote from: "penfold12"Obviously they will need to re cover the floor area after digging up and removing the pillar bases, so maybe there is an option for something else to be added rather than just a little more concrete flooring?
I'm getting greedy now, but a "Welcome to Disney Village" sign and full information board like the parks would be perfect for the spot in the second picture. The current one that's over by the WDS entrance to the Village is easy to miss (and not all that useful...). It would also be a good place to advertise the shops and restaurants of the hotels around the lake, which for now could be used like an expansion of the Village (they're included on the newest map I think). Just something to lead people a little further than the Disney Store...
Quote from: "raptor1982"I'm still struck how green Disney Village looks like in pictures now! :shock:
Yes that´s really amazing (Bit weird to use this word after Seal sung it to loud about Heide Klum at the Germany´s next Top Model Final last Thuersday)
Remove the Pillars would be wonderful too! I´m also for a better signboard and integrating the hotels is an absolute must-have. They should try to get their guests in their Disney Restaurants around the lake.
i quiet like the pillars- though they were way better with the 'starry sky' lights. I think DV might look a bit empty without them, they add a lot to the atmosphere and give you much more to look at. The metal panels are pretty ugly though, so they could probably do with new facias and maybe a replacement for the starry sky so that they actually have a purpose once again
I agree the starry sky made it seem magical in some way as well as meaning the pillars didnt look quite so intruding. Is there any more news on the Starbucks and sandwich place that were rumoured to be coming
Quote from: "davidrsykes"i quiet like the pillars- though they were way better with the 'starry sky' lights. I think DV might look a bit empty without them, they add a lot to the atmosphere and give you much more to look at. The metal panels are pretty ugly though, so they could probably do with new facias and maybe a replacement for the starry sky so that they actually have a purpose once again
I´m also one of these who liked the "old" village. It looked great at the beginning of the 90s with all this lights, neons etc. at night.
The problem was that the remove all signs, starlight effects, neons etc. and haven´t replaced it in any way. So the village turns to cheap and ugly. The haven´t done something what you call in german "Stadtmöblierung" (maybe street furniture in english).
Now they seem to know their fault (maybe it was also a money-decission) and make - late but they make it - a real concept with plants, terraces and all this. That´s simple great and the village seem not any more to have the charm of a french camping centre.
So I´m hoping now for a great future with additions and improvements that bring the village back to the thing that it was in the 90s: a real place to stay and have fun.
Quote from: "never2old"I would love a Starbucks there... Another reason to go!
I don't think this is actually going to happen.
Starbucks is a favourite for me also, but there's already a Starbucks located in 'La Vallee' Shopping Village. (It's an outlet that has stores from Puma, Vans, Nike, Lacoste and more)
I always go there, because there's a shopping mall 'Centre Commercial Val D'Europe', and a hotel from 'Pierre en Vacances'.
I must say, a very comfortable hotel it is. :shock:
Every early morning, you could just walk out the door of the hotel, you see a bit of Disney Studios, and walk in 'Auchan' (the hugest supermart I've ever seen in my life) for the most delicious and delicate breakfast foods (downstairs). [-o<
I'm sorry to go totally out of subject, but I totally reccommend you to go reserve a room at that hotel. At 'Val d'Europe' There's also a Disney store called 'Rendez-Vous Disney'.
:P
(Still, the idea of a Starbucks and Sandwich store isn't a bad thing at all)
Quote from: "MSW"I don't think this is actually going to happen.
Starbucks is a favourite for me also, but there's already a Starbucks located in 'La Vallee' Shopping Village. (It's an outlet that has stores from Puma, Vans, Nike, Lacoste and more)
I wouldn't say having a Starbucks at Val d'Europe would stop them. That'd actually be a
reeeally long distance between two Starbucks. I mean, I might not be able to cope walking that far. :lol:
I do want a Starbucks-ish place at Disney Village, but I'm thinking more and more that this kind of mega-brand and its overpriced drinks wouldn't be all that good. McDonalds is already a bit too loud, imagine a giant Starbucks sign next to it, the view from across Lake Disney wouldn't be very magical. I'd much prefer a small Disney-owned place, provided they buy a real coffee machine.
... Hehe! You sound just like my other half... he's constantly asking "Do they have a propper coffee machine?"
Are you sure your name isn't Simon?
Starbucks is coming like it or not, and sa goodbye to the Buffalo Trading Post as it is where the green mermaid will settle.
Quote from: "Kinou"Starbucks is coming like it or not, and sa goodbye to the Buffalo Trading Post as it is where the green mermaid will settle.
Pity. It's the only DV shop worth visiting... But a good location for a coffee shop, I'd say...
excuse my ignorance but what is the green mermaid? :?:
The Green Mermaid is Starbuck's corporate logo.
Quote from: "Kinou"Starbucks is coming like it or not, and sa goodbye to the Buffalo Trading Post as it is where the green mermaid will settle.
Are you sure, where did you hear that?
On the one hand I think it's a good idea to have a coffee like Starbucks in DV. We can only hope that it won't be as full as McDonalds alway is, the waiting times are very high after the parc has closed.
But on the other hand I don't not agree with closing Buffalos Trading Post. It's my favourite shop.
Quote from: "Kinou"Starbucks is coming like it or not, and sa goodbye to the Buffalo Trading Post as it is where the green mermaid will settle.
I missed this. OMG please say it isn't so. The BTP is my fav shop in the Disney Village, and the trueist to the theme. The management of the DV wouldn't know theming if it bit them on their butts!
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Personally I think Starbucks will go where the New York Sandwiches deli is
A Starbucks will replace the BUFFALO TRADING POST???! The cosy little western-styled shop with the wooden floor where I loved to buy Halloween merchandise?? Please say it isn't so :(
A Café would have been great in the Village, maybe one which also serves special cakes, cookies or ice cream. But must that be Starbucks, that giant and totally over-priced, non-disney-styled coffee-shop? :roll:
At least a Vegetarian restaurant would have been a better replacement for that great store :evil: :mrgreen:
I think a Starbucks would be a good addition to the Disney Village, although there would be better locations. Buffalo Tradings is a really nice shop.
We loved Starbucks in the US, we went there nearly every day, and it wasn't as expensive as here in Austria. We only have some Starbucks in Vienna.
My girlfriend also wants a vegetarian restaurant at DV.
Quote from: "Stitch"Are you sure, where did you hear that?
You can trust Kinou's sources.
I've just opened a dedicated topic for the Disney Village Starbucks. Please continue the discussion here:
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More work continues:
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A more themed and covered terras maybe??? Same as they did with Billy Bobs?
What about the proposed World of Disney store? Any news on that Paris version?
many many pics at disney central plaza.
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Including:
Disney Village generally,
A Disapeared canopy at the steakhouse
the terrace at King Ludwigs
The filling of the former pillars
the inauguration of pause and play.
Seems they make now even a big solution for inaugurations of little kiosks :mrgreen: .
Well, it's certainly changing. It seems like they're still not entirely sure where they're going stylistically, and the balloons and carnival rides are still in place... But at least everything looks less dated now.
Is anyone else slightly bothered by the large nondescript buildings that house everything? Take the Steakhouse for example -- lovely canopy, stylish solarium -- but it's attached to this enormous, plain building with plain windows. The same goes for the Rainforest Cafe, Hurricanes, Billy Bob's and,to a lesser degree, Cafe Mickey.
I can't wait to see the Disney Village in September. It looks so much better than the last time. I hope they will remove these ugly balloons soon, but I doubt it.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Is anyone else slightly bothered by the large nondescript buildings that house everything? Take the Steakhouse for example -- lovely canopy, stylish solarium -- but it's attached to this enormous, plain building with plain windows. The same goes for the Rainforest Cafe, Hurricanes, Billy Bob's and,to a lesser degree, Cafe Mickey.
That is what I most dislike about the DV. The buildings are just too blocky and plain. I especially hate the one that houses the Rainforest Cafe. :shock:
New terrace for King Ludwig's:
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Ew, ugly wall at the back there. Maybe they could put some plants on top and let them trail down or something.
Disneytheque says it's to stop people who are leaving BBWWS wandering through the terrace. It seems like they lost the nice covered entrance to the restaurant and knight statue in the process.
Quote from: "Baloo"Ew, ugly wall at the back there.
It looks unfinished, but I'm afraid that's not the case. The front part actually doesn't look bad at all. It fits the terrace.
Wow, such a downgrade. What idiots at the Disney Village 8-(
Maybe they put the statue of King Ludwig somewhere else up.
But if they don´t I wouldn´t care to mouch about it, because the statue locks ridiculous.
(I´m a bavarian)
Ridiculous for "native bavarian" people like you and me :lol: , but maybe not for others.
Hey, maybe they should paint the wall in bavarian colors at the KLC side :wink:
Maybe it´s just not finished. We are prone to do make a very quick judgment if we have no concept arts :mrgreen:
So lets pray that the wall makes it sence [-o<
I'm starting to get worried about the Disney Village designers. There seems to be a lot of 'blank' walls appearing like the one in the photo above. I like the jobs they have done in the past, but I think that change to king ludwigs truly is not good. Let's hope we're just being judgmental and that we'll see some plants appearing in the next few months :S
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Quote from: "dlrp-mad"There seems to be a lot of 'blank' walls appearing like the one in the photo above. ... Let's hope we're just being judgmental and that we'll see some plants appearing in the next few months :S
Hm? They just added hundreds of new plants! Or do you mean specifically here? This wall is the first not-so-good thing we've seen in a while, which does indeed make it stand out. But we can't be sure it was actually EDL-Imagineering who did it and not the owners of King Ludwig's (it's not Disney owned or run). Even then, I'm surprised that they'd build an ugly wall like that, they're usually one of the best outside-run places at DLRP. Maybe it's not finished.
Looking through some photos of the 15th launch, it's amazing to see how the place looked just a year ago:
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So cold.
Very true! I had not taken the new foliage into account. To be honest, I've not seen loads of pictures of the updates of Disney Village only those of the Mickey's Cafe and this particular ludwigs photo. I guess I'll change my mind after my visit next week!
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Some kind of new planter is under construction next to Café Mickey!
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Pretty Planter... :)
Thanks Again Raptor, I'm guessing your most recent trip was enjoyable...
Wonder what kind of plant we'll have anyone fancying an Apple Tree?
Oh that looks really nice!! Wonder if I could fit one like that in my place... :-k
Wow, very cool planter. I'm very impressed! :wink:
:hello:
Now that's 8)
Epcot_Boy :ears:
WOW :shock:
That looks great...it would fit my garden perfect!! Uhhh....if i had one that is :P
Oh well, I thought it looked ugly! Well, like Soap says, it'd fit in your garden perfectly, but it doesn't really fit the style of Café Mickey. Though it'd be nice if there was a fountain in there and then plants surrounding it.
Disney Village is so busy now, even during the day when you'd think everyone would be in the parks.
Quote from: "Baloo"Disney Village is so busy now, even during the day when you'd think everyone would be in the parks.
Without wanting to sound stupid..... How much of this, if any is due to the fact that the walkways areas are reduced due to the planting and externals, and that the externals put people on view rather than inside shops and restaurants, making the Village appear busier, rather than increased foot fall??
Ooooh I like the planter... maybe it could be some sort of funky water feature
Hm, to me it doesn't really look like a planter but more like a little fountain or something of that kind :nemo:
Fountain or planter who knows, if anyone see's them for sale in the village let me know so I can take a bigger suitcase
Hi,
I noticed the new planter too and yesterday morning (18 July) they had added plants around it (see picture).
Inside the planter is not much, I don't think it will be a fountain because its too small and there is no hole in the middle. My guess is that they will add a small tree or something. Or maybe a Mickey statue? Now that would be cool!
GrandiJoos :cool:
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thanks for the pic!
Hope they will have a nice centerpiece for the mickey planter.
A big mickey-shaped topiary would be cool.
looking prettier with the flowers!!
Quote from: "Reiana"A big mickey-shaped topiary would be cool.
i agree!!
Quote from: "GrandiJoos"I noticed the new planter too and yesterday morning (18 July) they had added plants around it (see picture).
It sure looks good! This is the kind of detail Disney Village needs!
Don't know if I missed it ,but are the lights working in the newly planted trees now ? Remember seeing a pic of some multi-coloured LED type lights waiting to be fitted,if anyone is going soon could they have a look and let us know,and a photo would be great too if it will come out.I would be really interested to see how they look,might take the edge off the awful balloon lights they stuck everywhere !!!!!
Clarebelle this might be one for you if you have any room left out of the 2000 pics you're planning !!!!!
If they are there, I will try to grab some pics next week.
Brilliant ! Thanks davewasbaloo , have a great trip !!!
I no this report is over a week old but i just thought id post the photos that werent posted :wink:
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Planter still has no plants
And yes as posted in another topic, rainforest cafe has there own character
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The shrubs at the Mickey planter look a little dull...
Hopefully something nicer is on the way.
At my latest trip to dlrp about a month ago, I spotted a CM removing two of the baloons. Does anyone know what that's all about? Can we hope, that they're leaving for good?
Maybe they could make it work if they added like a million more baloons so the Village were themed for the coming Pixar movie 'Up' (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/up/ (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/up/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)).
Quote from: "Owain"And yes as posted in another topic, rainforest cafe has there own character
On this pic it looks like the frog has apples for eyes... :P
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Et voila! :wink:
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Oh wow it's a................................... small round topiary.
The pure thing looks as lonesome as the plants surrounding it.
I hope this is just temporary. They can do better than that.
Look more like: We are still waiting for the real plants to grow, but we must do something with the empy planter. In the meantime, let's put an old topiary from "behind the scenes" inside.
Quote from: "Reiana"Oh wow it's a................................... small round topiary.
The pure thing looks as lonesome as the plants surrounding it.
I hope this is just temporary. They can do better than that.
This one will grow. They could've taken a full grown topiary instead, but I'm not sure if a full grown plan will settle right in a new planter.
I hope it will grow, but the whole scene looks al little loveless to me, that's all.
That can't be the final product can it???
It looks so.... lost, so.... small.
The planter itself is really great, with a nice attention to detail. That cant be whats going inside. Can it?
Photomagiques; NEX arcade closed for several months now due to building code violations
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:shock: How did all this happen ? What was the violation ?
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Quote from: "Kristof"Et voila! :wink:
...hm yes....it´s .... round?
And that while I´m tending so much my little DLRP-Mickey-Plant. Would fit better then that :mrgreen:
Quote from: "Timbo"Brilliant ! Thanks davewasbaloo , have a great trip !!!
hey Timbo, no pics for you as there are no twinkle lights in them sadly :(
Thank you for remembering !! Glad you had a good trip read the TR on another forum ! Maybe they will put on the lights for winter when the leaves are off the trees,we will have to see.....
A stage in the planters. How this could work shows the Rock'n'Roll Festival at the village clearly:
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Quote from: "Riebi"A stage in the planters. How this could work shows the Rock'n'Roll Festival at the village clearly:
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Nice idea! I wonder if they put up these kind of stages in all the planters.
I think they could do this cause it´s the big planter in front of PH. It looks much better then I´ve expected in times someone wrote the first time that they would use a planter for a stage.
Does anyone know if all the stuff that is usually in NEX has been taken out, ie Bowling, Pool Tables, etc?
We are going to DLRP on the 13th of this month and we enjoy winding down at night by having a game of pool or bowling.
Just wondering if they are still available to use or if it is all still in the closed down NEX building ?
Also, i dont know if this is old news or not, but i sent an email to plant hollywood asking them when they were re-opening the Cafe, and this is the response i got:
Thank you for your email. Our lease for the Planet Hollywood in Paris has
expired and we are currently seeking an alternative site in Paris. However, you may still visit the Planet Hollywood location located at Disneyland Resort Paris at the Disney Village at the front entrance of the Disney Parks. Please visit our website for more information on this and other locations.
Thanks, and have a great day!
I think Disney Village would look quite strange without Planet Hollywood :(
I didnt know if perhaps PH had failed on building regulations like NEX has ?
I thin you may have miss read that reply. They are saying the Paris restaurant is moving location not the one a Disney Village, they are offering that as an alternative to Paris (city)
Cool, so its still open then ?
When i visited the planet hollywood website a month or so back, it said the resturaunt was closed, hence why i emailed them.
I have just looked on their website today and all the details are back online.
I have re-read the email and can see how i might have got a little confused, i wasnt aware of another PH in paris though ?
I will be glad if it open when i go to DLRP, loved the food there last time :)
It's the Planet Hollywood on the Champs-Elysées that has closed.
The NEX Arcade underneath the IMAX building has been closed for many months. They were a bit silly to put something like that up in that corner without anything around it to draw people up there.
Quote from: "Anthony"The NEX Arcade underneath the IMAX building has been closed for many months. They were a bit silly to put something like that up in that corner without anything around it to draw people up there.
So it wasnt really planning permission, it was lack of attendance ?
Quote from: "Owain"So it wasnt really planning permission, it was lack of attendance ?
I'm not sure Owain, I must have missed the planning permission news...?
Lack of attendance in that dark corner would seem a much more likely reason to me. That's why the re-opened the old arcade space next to the Sports Bar.
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Owain"So it wasnt really planning permission, it was lack of attendance ?
I'm not sure Owain, I must have missed the planning permission news...?
Lack of attendance in that dark corner would seem a much more likely reason to me. That's why the re-opened the old arcade space next to the Sports Bar.
Sorry baloo got my words mixed up, it was from a photomagiques trip report;
QuoteNEX arcade closed for several months now due to building code violations
I sent an e-mail to Cirsa (The company that runs the NEX arcade) asking why the building was closed and when it was likely to be re-opened.
This is the response i got:
Dear Sir
Thanks for your e-mail to the CIRSA webmail. Unfortunatley the NEX arcade at the Disney Village was closed last January due a terrible flooding that left the building in a bad condition.
I am happy to let you know that we expect to start the works next month in order to repair the damages and refitting out the arcade. We expect to reopen before Summer 2009.
At this moment we have a very well equiped Arcade at the D. Village, called the STADIUM, which is right next to the SPORTS BAR. It is a smaller Arcade than NEX, with some cutting edge machines.
Regarding the Bowling it will not be relocated, and stays inside NEX untill its reopening. Same with the POOL tables. At this moment you can find one Pool Table at the SEQUOIA Hotel.
Thanks for your interest and hope to give you some update at your earliest convenience
Sincerely
Alberto Eljarrat
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Again, i do not know if this is old news but it does clarify why the building was closed down and when they are looking to re-open it.
i damit i thought it was still open with the disney website still showing it darn :(
They have taken it off the Disneylandparis.co.uk website
hmmm
they havent actuly
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New pic of the bar construction at king ludwigs from disneytheque:
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Seems to get bigger then I´ve expected
The bar you are talking about, is it going to be an outdoor bar?
Quote from: "Riebi"New pic of the bar construction at king ludwigs from disneytheque:
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Seems to get bigger then I´ve expected
Shame it's not taller - It would cover up the ugly Billy Bob's exterior. :roll:
Quote from: "dagobert"The bar you are talking about, is it going to be an outdoor bar?
I think yes. But I´m not sure!
Something has arrived at DV, but what is it...
Disneytheque say from french to english translation;
QuoteWork has begun recently to Planet Hollywood to install what appears to be a scene ...
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For me it seems familiar to the Discoveryland Info Board, maybe a DV info board ? :D
Quote from: "Owain"For me it seems familiar to the Discoveryland Info Board, maybe a DV info board ? :D
Reminds me more of the Place des Stars stage! I guess the recent events were a success and they want something more permanent.
It's a shame they never replaced the old Centre Stage with something in a better location.
Although if I'm being honest, I could completely do without any entertainment or atmosphere in DV if they then saved up that cash for more permanent additions and improvements.
Quote from: "Anthony"Reminds me more of the Place des Stars stage! I guess the recent events were a success and they want something more permanent.
Indeed! It reminds a bit to Place des Stars. Has DLRP made some nice deal with the company that produces all these quick to setup steel supports for them? ;)
Maybe they want to get more guests into the village!
The last times, DV always got empty early!
And more guest into the village makes, hopefully, more cash into the shops and reastaurants!
Construction fences came down a few days ago:
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Well, yes it looks...... ahm interesting.
What exactly is it supposed to be? Really some kind of stage?
I think it looks strange somehow :-k
Totally agree with you Reiana. "Interesting" is the right word.
It looks a bit "unfinished" and have they done something wrong with the roof? It looks like they didn´t get it fitting together in the front.
@ Reiana: Yes it´s a stage. They had here a little more improved stage for the rock n´roll festival etc. Now it looks like an expension.
@ raptor: Thank you for keep us updated!
Thanks for the update Kristof, it does seem very strange at the minute doesn't it :-k I wonder if they've finished with it?
The opening date for the bar at king ludwigs seems to be a joke. At 28. 10 the fences were around the building and the doesn´t seem to drop down till tomorrow:
Mousy.be has some pics:
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Acording to a member of dlp info forum the construction of WORLD OF DISNEY STORE should start around January 2009. they say that this store will be a 2 story structure which will betwice the size of the existing Disney store.
Disney Store to be taken over by well known retailer.
The Buffalo Trading Shop they say closes in December, making way for a Starbucks. Opening before spring 2009.
- Wild West Show is also supposed to close down to be replaced by Zorro, but confirmation on exact date is still missing. Maybe with Buffalo Trading, who knows?
Quote from: "phantom247"Acording to a member of dlp info forum the construction of WORLD OF DISNEY STORE should start around January 2009. they say that this store will be a 2 story structure which will betwice the size of the existing Disney store.
Disney Store to be taken over by well known retailer.
The Buffalo Trading Shop they say closes in December, making way for a Starbucks. Opening before spring 2009.
- Wild West Show is also supposed to close down to be replaced by Zorro, but confirmation on exact date is still missing. Maybe with Buffalo Trading, who knows?
Wow this sounds great even if its a rumour, although id prefer to keep the WWS ! :(
You should post the World of Disney Store in this topic too :)
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Can someone confirm these rumours? I will believe it when there is an official confirmation.
I Love Buffalo Bill... but I think, its a good idea to show something new.
Although, I don´t like the idea of Zorro.
I feels so -- Un-Disney :roll:
Quote from: "MagicStar"I Love Buffalo Bill... but I think, its a good idea to show something new.
Although, I don´t like the idea of Zorro.
I feels so -- Un-Disney :roll:
From wikipedia:
QuoteZorro (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro_(1957_TV_series)), a Walt Disney-produced half-hour television series, running from 1957 to 1959, and starring Guy Williams as Zorro. The two Guy Williams-starred features above were episode compilations, and there were two one-hour follow-ups on the Walt Disney anthology television series in the 1959-1960 TV season.
Yeah, i remember this old Zorro show, I used to watch it on the Disney Channel.
I don't think they will stop the show on January, it is mentioned in the Autumn/winter
brouchure, i think they would alert people if they are planning to close it.
Quote from: "howtodeal"Yeah, i remember this old Zorro show, I used to watch it on the Disney Channel.
I don't think they will stop the show on January, it is mentioned in the Autumn/winter
brouchure, i think they would alert people if they are planning to close it.
I agree with you there... if anything was happening immediately Kristof, Anthony and others would have given us news before now...
Perhaps its a change for Mickey's Magical Party...
We'll have to wait and see...
I hope the don't remove the Wild West show, it feels in a way as fundamental part of DLRP and should keep it's place.
QuoteI agree with you there... if anything was happening immediately Kristof, Anthony and others would have given us news before now...
Well I haven't heard even a single rumour about a replacement. Thought that said, I do know Buffalo Bill is not as popular any more as DLRP wants it to be.
The last 3 times I have been (October 14th, May 9th and August 07) have seen very good houses for BBWWS.
Although the August 07 show was marred by technical difficulties!
The last time I went was a great show with a good crowd and atmosphere.
The problem lies with the unfashionable nature of the wild west and country and western music.
It will turn around!
I like Buffalo Bills, however it is inevitable that over time less and less people will visit. If your a large group or on a budget it is quite expensive! I should think people do it once and then maybe not again.
I think a new show would be great, something really spectacular to draw the crowds in and become as legendary as BBWS!
QuoteI think a new show would be great, something really spectacular to draw the crowds in and become as legendary as BBWS!
I've always thought that the stage would be great to have Disney on Ice shows, and
this kinds of shows is a lot easier to change than BBWWS. Having said that, I still love BBWWS and
don't mind them keeping it for a while :D
I asked around Disney Village on my last visit a few weeks ago about World of Disney no manager or individual Cast Member had a clue when it would be built in shops, Flo Groupe restaurants or Planet Hollywood so take it with a pinch of salt when people say it will start construction in January 09.
The Disney Gazette shares some pics from King Ludwigs Bar. Interesting that the construction is so far away from finishing after the bar should opened during october!
Here´s the link with the pics:
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this is ugly!!!
i don´t know what the peeps at disney are thinking,
they can make it look even more cheaper..
i think the best ist to demolish disney village and make it new,
with a more downtown disney style...
it makes no more fun to walk around there and also lacks on entertainment...
That really is the only answer the whole village needs to be started from scratch it is so ugly its untrue, I have seen better traveling carnivals. There is not one good thing about the place even the new lighting on the trees in the planter is a missed oppertunity, it should have been fairy lights not the coloured spots that you can not even see unless you look very closely.
I Hate:
The floor - faded and worn
Building colour - cold and ugly
Lights - burnt out, damaged, mouldy
attractions - cheap ugly randon!
The place looks like Chernobly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think the Village is that bad... certainly not after the new planters and other improvements.
Having said that...
Good lord, is this for real? It looks worse than something you'd find at a local carnival or at a truck stop at the side of the road. I can't stand this current trend of semi-permanent things the restaurants at DLRP are putting up at the moment. There's no reason why this won't be permanent, so just spend the money and do a good job of it.
At least this isn't as bad as the Café Mickey extension, where you pay the same price for a seat in a tent with fewer characters and about as much magic as, well, McDonald's just across the way.
I'm beginning to think when the expansion finally comes, it'll be a series of marquees and caravans.
Another pic of King Ludwig's bar:
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Picture posted on the Disney Central Plaza forum (//http://www.disneycentralplaza.com) by DK.
Those tent tops/roof remind me an awful lot of the security tents ! :lol:
These tents are complete, when I was there on Wednesday the fences were taken down and construction workers were putting lights on the new stage in the middle of the village.
I can see the thinking behind them, as they will be 100% waterproof. But look more like the covering for a bouncy castle than a seating area
I don't mind the picture above actually. The colours are good. It'd be fine if they were just covered gazebo-type things for the Summer. It's the bare steel frames and ugly walls and doors of the "buildings" that look like a truckstop or your local pub (and a bad pub at that):
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Im guessing/hoping they're gonna cover the steel corners with plaster or something to tie it in with the look of Ludwigs
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Im guessing/hoping they're gonna cover the steel corners with plaster or something to tie it in with the look of Ludwigs
Good Point there Pete... They Just look so incomplete... And with that steel support it looks unsightly!
Oh I think they was incomplete at the time of this pic. I will wait too till a give my opinion. I don´t wanna have that coke-building blame again :lol:
At the moment I don't like the new building/tent. It looks cheap, but I will wait until it is finished and then I will decide if I like it or not.
Are there any news concerning the World of Disney store?
After sleeping about it I´m thinking more and more that the problem aren´t the tents. The problem is the wall behind it. It looks really cheap. I think now it´s the time to make a big step to ONE direction. They could go back to the old style, very modern and minimalistic or the more themed style. But this situation between the two is horrible.
For the information kiosk: Has they changed the color from the former to this new one? I think it´s ok but I liked the old green color more!
Color 1?
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Color 2?
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Its probably the same colour, just the time of day and angle of photograph etc is making the colours look different. I can't see them changing the colour once it already had been half built.
In relation to the steel beams on the Ludwigs tents, it looks very bare and some kind of theming must be going there, it just looks unfinished.
Looks better than expected:
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Horrible. It was better when there was nothing there.
They could have at least used the same roof style as the main King Ludwig's exterior. :?
It doesn't look too bad, but they could have done a better job. I think it must be really loud under the tent when it's raining.
Oh it doesn´t seems to be a real tent. From the other pics it´s a normal roof and they have themed it with this tentroof.
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Pics by disneygazette:
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And here are some others from the inside and outsite at opening :
SPOILERS!!!
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They themed the roof at the outside like a big tent and at the inside like a smaller tent :D
no from inside it is not a real tent but i have to say it looks very good inside,
i was there on monday and it dosent look as horrible as i was thinking....
to bad i didn´t took a pic....
I don't actually think it's that bad. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's not the worst :wink: At least it has a consistent theme to it :)
It's not fantastic, but not that bad either. Just middle of the road in my opinion. But it does the job. And they have Pretzels! Must get one next time I'm at the resort.
From the inside it doesn't look bad. Just the right place for a cold beer after visiting the parks. But I don't like the building/tent from the outside!
The inside really isn't too bad, is it? It looks rather cheap next to the amazing King Ludwig's interior itself though.
Outside, it's still unfathomably hideous though. I mean... who?! why?! what were they thinking?! Did they pay for it with spare change?! Oh well, Disney Village really needs more places (that aren't the Sports Bar) where you can just get a drink, so any additions are welcome. [/desperation]
Another photo of the bar;
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The information kiosk;
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And the christmas market returns to the esplande;
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Hmm...those finishing touches on King Ludwig's actually are doing the whole new seating area some good. Doesn't look that bad after all in my opinion.
And the area where the christmas market is now placed, really needs some attention in the near future. It looks so dull...
Quote from: "Kuzco"Hmm...those finishing touches on King Ludwig's actually are doing the whole new seating area some good. Doesn't look that bad after all in my opinion.
And the area where the christmas market is now placed, really needs some attention in the near future. It looks so dull...
Isn't that the exact construction site that has "World of Disney" written all over it? In any case I agree...
I havent comment in a while, but I would like to say that I really like the new tourisme info building. It complements the exsisting style of the Fantasia Gardens and Esplanade very well. Hopefully they will replace the security checkpoints in the near future with permanent ones who at least blend in with the area. Also the awful train station could benefit from a small redisgn don't you think? Just look at Hong Kong Disneyland's Esplanade for some ideas. :wink:
I'm not really sure about the new King Ludwig Bar really. In some pics it looks awful, in other pics it looks okay. I'll hold my judgement untill I've seen it in real life.
hey folks,
So i think before they build the long-awaited world of dieny store, they should look at this old conceptart and think about it, the entire disney village and the esplanade to amend ...
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hi i dont know if this has been posted before somewhere else, but the balloons are coming off the pillars and being placed lower down above the shops, leaving the pillars bare, does anyone know if the starry lights are going to be re introduced???
I don't like the balloons any more. At first I really liked them, but now many of them are destroyed most of the time and that's the reason why they should put them down.
I have never been to Disney Village before they added the balloons, but I have seen a picture of the old DV and it looked really nice with these little lights. Why did Disney remodel the DV??
At least they improved it with trees and plants and soon there will be a Starbucks.
oO the stars should make a return, they really added something to the space and complimented the general abstract feel of the Village. Has anyone seen the opening resort footage on Disney & More showing the lights in action (truly amazing)?
Although some of the pillars have been removed an attractive lattice could be placed atop, to span the lager space containing lights. With the trees and planters below it could look quite magical whilst giving the pillers a purpose & providing a finish to the area. :D Would be good if the lower 2 metres of metallic tiles were replaced with a solid colour also, that matches the individual location allowing a neutral transition from street level whist retaining the abstract theme above head height...
Oh I´ve seen some great laser shows in the first years. I wouldn´t have something against some action in the air!
When was the horrible rainforest carousel finally removed?! This deserved to be front page news! There's a huge space there now, big enough for a small cafe or something...
Quote from: "Anthony"When was the horrible rainforest carousel finally removed?! This deserved to be front page news! There's a huge space there now, big enough for a small cafe or something...
OMG you're right!!! WDI1992 said to me 2 weeks ago: there's something missing here :shock: :shock: :shock:
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My camera can pick up speech bubbles.
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Thank goodness, they removed this thing. I never understood why it was there.
I hope it does not return and is replaced by a nice seating area.
This is sure to cause lots of sadness for DLRP fans all over the world. What will we do without the random-completely-tacky-looking merry-go-round?! :shock:
And changing the subject - does anyone else think the big grey box on top of the Rainforest Cafe looks extremely ugly?
Wonder if the carrousel at Downtown Disney next to Rainforest will removed too...
I actually never saw this carousell in action... never seen it going round and round... :?
Quote from: "RnRCj"And changing the subject - does anyone else think the big grey box on top of the Rainforest Cafe looks extremely ugly?
Oh yes. Ideally it'd be good if Rainforest Cafe could expand up into Hurricanes and then the whole building be themed like the Downtown Disney versions. They could incorporate the circular "Key West" bit at the back with the temple theme really easily. Maybe it's too big for them, though?
I got a few photos of the ugliness round there actually:
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Not only is the whole thing dirty on the outside, inside you can just see chairs stacked up in what looks like a storeroom.
QuoteWhat will we do without the random-completely-tacky-looking merry-go-round?!
Yes, my trips to DLP will actually never be the same again now! It was incredibly random and very pointless and I'm extremely pleased to see its gone!
QuoteAt least they improved it with trees and plants and soon there will be a Starbucks.
I personally think them tree's look too random in the village, there's no 'greenery' anywhere in the village, so random tree's are bound to stick out.
Also is there not a topic about the new Starbucks? Which is again something I'm not too pleased about. In my opinion a Starbucks would ruin the 'authentic' Disney feel that the village had. Placing more common name shops in there will make it just like any other high street.
Not necessarily. The Downtown Disneys at WDW and in California are full of high street names, yet they are far more pleasant than Disney Village. In fact, *because* there are so many "real" shops in there, the occasional Disney Store feels far more authentic. At Disney Village, wherever you go it's Disney, and more depressingly, they all sell the same stuff.
Quote from: "Quark"At Disney Village, wherever you go it's Disney, and more depressingly, they all sell the same stuff.
this used to be different; and I hope it will be again someday...
Quote from: "Kristof"Quote from: "Anthony"When was the horrible rainforest carousel finally removed?! This deserved to be front page news! There's a huge space there now, big enough for a small cafe or something...
OMG you're right!!! WDI1992 said to me 2 weeks ago: there's something missing here :shock: :shock: :shock:
Guys I went to DLRP in March and I noticed that the Caroussel wasn't on but it was there. On my way back from the park on my last day it was on. Maybe they just have it during busy times like Christmas and Halloween now.
Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"Guys I went to DLRP in March and I noticed that the Caroussel wasn't on but it was there. On my way back from the park on my last day it was on. Maybe they just have it during busy times like Christmas and Halloween now.
No, it was there in March as it had been for years and now, in April, it's gone.
The rest of Rainforest Cafe's exterior has had a bit of a spruce-up recently (mushroom lights working, neon logo fixed, crocodile back from the dead), so it seems to be tied to that. Let's hope it's gone for good.
Talking about that carosel, they tried to charge me to ride it when all i did was hold DD onto the horse so she didn't fall off....I told them where they could stick there 2 euros.
Glad to hear its gone.
New Disney Village map featuring Starbucks has been released:
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Really it's just the old one with the logo placed on top of the old Buffalo Trading accessories, but I've listed a few other strange differences compared to the 2008 version here (//http://www.dlrpmagic.com/memorabilia/item/2009-disney-village-map/).
And for old time's sake, there's five other old maps spanning this decade here (//http://www.dlrpmagic.com/memorabilia/item/2009/07/05/). This one is particularly interesting, published only in the Spring/Summer 2002 brochure:
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Needless to say I remember us watching and waiting for that to arrive for quite a long time. Thank god DV took another 3 years with its IMAX! :?
Just read about the Carousel! So glad that eye sore is gone, it never fitted in, it was so cheap and tacky looking! =D> =D> =D> =D> Lets hope we don't see it return.
Its amazing to see the change in the maps, thanks for posting Anthony! :)
Quote from: "Aveen2008"Just read about the Carousel! So glad that eye sore is gone, it never fitted in, it was so cheap and tacky looking! =D> =D> =D> =D> Lets hope we don't see it return.
Its amazing to see the change in the maps, thanks for posting Anthony! :)
BUT BUT I am going to miss it ... i loved it ...
Only joking lol and totally agree
Just wondering, what are the chances of DLRP ever getting a House of Blues and a Cirque du Soleil? I mean it is French after all. :wink: And could Disney Village be split into districts like Downtown Disney in the future? That would be cool.
Well we used to have Muriel Hermine's Crescend'O, which was a great aquatic circus in a similar vain to Cirque du Soliel (who are Canadian, not French).
as for HoB, as much as I would love to see it, there were was feesability studies done about bringing the chain to Europe (London and DLP), but as far as I am aware, they have now been dropped. DLP stopped using their musical venue capacity years ago.
I fondly remember how you could see bands in 3 or 4 locations, dance in 3 and see fireworks and lasers on the lake. and people wonder why I miss the old days and get grumpy about modern DLP.
QuoteWell we used to have Muriel Hermine's Crescend'O, which was a great aquatic circus in a similar vain to Cirque du Soliel (who are Canadian, not French).
:shock: WHAT!? There used to be a circus at DLP! When was this? Oh I wish I could of seen it. I meant to say that the Cirque du Soleil name was French, because I knew they were Canadian. :wink:
Did those musical venues used to take place in the white tent in between DV and HNBC? I understand why you complain about what it's like now; they sound really brilliant.
The White tent was the Cirque. It had a massive swimming pool that was also an ice rink and a stage. Amazing really. The transformations were great, cyncronised swimming, a burning devil that was on fire as he fell into the water and then disappeared. It was sublime. I still sometimes listen to the CD and flick through the book. This was back in 1999.
As for the village, Billy Bob's used to have the Grammy Awar winning Moody Brothers everynight except 2, and sometimes big name acts would fill the gaps. Where King Ludwigs is now was Rock and Roll America, and they had tribute acts on most nights (or sometimes kareoke near the end). The Central Stage was where the space is between the Disney store and the Sports Bar - and on Wednesdays and weekends, as well as high season, there would be bands on. And sometimes Hurricanes had gigs too.
the Village used to be a big draw in itself. And back in the day, all the hotels had live entertainment, with the DLH having a string quartet, the HNY has a big band jazz club, the Newport Bay pianist and folk groups, Sequoia Lodge had country groups (as did the Cheyenne, though in the early years they had cancan dancers too), and the Santa fe used to have Mariachi Bands.
This is why I am angry at all the toons. We used to get real entertainment (that the characters used to interact with). Once upon a time, DLP was the greatest resort in the Disney empire, now it is a shadow of it's former self, and most people on these boards do not realise what they are missing.
sometimes I wish I never became a lifelong fan at DL and then following DLP since they struck ground. Then I might be happy with buffets and character meals too.
By the end of the year Earl of sandwich preperations for construction should begin with the lake area nearest Steakhouse and the dome being filled in.
For those interested, here are some lovely pics from Crescend'O:
http://www.crescendo-fan.org/shgerm.html (http://www.crescendo-fan.org/shgerm.html)
It's a shame really that most of the entertainment is gone now - I didn't quite *get* it at the time because I was still too young, but DLRP nowadays is far too family-centric and, well, French for my taste when it comes to entertainment. As a grownup, I'm sure I could really appreciate what we had back in 1992.
I can kind of understand that they needed to satisfy their core audience first (otherwise, they wouldn't even be here anymore), but what was so great about Walt Disney World is that there were little things everywhere that you wouldn't find at any other resort (except at Universal maybe). Things like the Adventurer's Club, the hilarious Comedy Warehouse, Jellyrolls - for most of that stuff you had to be over 18 or 21!
Although sadly, most of it is going as well by now, replaced by bland, family-friendly, 3rd-party operated dining establishments. So it's not only Paris...
QUARK - fantastic to see you, I have missed you around here!
But yes, they have gone very much away from what made Disney great in the first place, and many do not realise because they are fairly new to the experience. In many ways I envy them, but I do long for the resorts that used to cater for everyone.
I partied very hard in the Village back in the day, it was like a mini Pleasure Island. Now it is dull save for Buffalo Bills, Annette's and the Steakhouse. A real shame. Same shopping and character experience as you can get everywhere else in the resort. It used to be sooooo different.
Wow - somebody remembers me :shock: :mrgreen: Always nice to see a familiar face!
I just posted something similar in the "when was your first visit" thread - it feels like most people around here came to DLRP much later than me, and I'm only thirty. That's a shame really, because there's a lot they did right in those early years, but by having to reign in the spending they cut just about everything. And not *all* of that was necessary, considering how much money they're still wasting on useless stuff.
But I'm an optimist - I remember longingly staring at that empty field earmarked for the "MGM Studios Europe". There were times when I thought that would never happen at all - and granted, the result is underwhelming, but we've still come a long way. Plus, now that I'm all grown up, I can pretty much chose any Disney location in the world if Paris gets on my nerves again :)
Agreed, a lot of these newbies really don't know what they are missing, and wonder why some of us get so grumpy. I envy them though. After 34 years of obsession, I find it harder to give them a free pass when they get it wrong (Crush, Toystoryland, Stitch in DISCOveryland, Backlot Express, staggered hours anyone).
But on the flip side, with the maintenance improvements, Disney should also be given a pat on the back. The place is starting to look like it should again.
i have fond memories of the village in 1990 something when it had the star lit sky and i went on a gyroscope and met the teenage mutant hero turtles, i cant really remember the stores that much. I must admit i really do like the Starbucks that has opened there recently, but i fear that after the recent announcement along with the financial figures means no expansion -yet
They really should bring back the Central Stage. I loved the atmosphere of the Village back then. Nowadays things start to look up again with the additions of the planters, Starbucks, Panoramagique and the removal of those cheap rides, but I do miss the stage and the lights between the columns. Why did they ever remove them anyway? Maybe one day they will restore Disney Village to its heyday (at least when it comes to entertainment, the look of the place will take some more work). If EuroDisney is ready to expand Disney Village once more, they should take notice of Downtown Disney Westside and Pleasure Island. House of Blues would be a welcomed addition for sure.
I never knew about the entertainment at the Disney Hotels. That sounds really awesome. Nowadays some afwul disco tunes are played through the speakers of Fisherman's Wharf at Newport Bay Club. :?
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"But on the flip side, with the maintenance improvements, Disney should also be given a pat on the back. The place is starting to look like it should again.
I have to disagree with you on this one. I just returned from DLP, and except for certain area's (Fantasia Gardens, Main Street, Discoveryland, Frontlot, Tower of Terror area etc) I couldn't help but feel that parts of the parks and hotels felt a bit worn out. The woodwork and roof of Newport Bay Club in particular looked awful. A large part of the promenade along Lake Disney was dark at night because all lights were broken, and they should finally take notice of the cracked pavement all over the Resort. Discoveryland's pavement looked great however, and the return of many of the effects in Disneyland Park partly made up for it in my book.
But this is all way offtopic, I had to get it off my chest. Its great to be back. :wink:
Quote from: "phantom247"By the end of the year Earl of sandwich preperations for construction should begin with the lake area nearest Steakhouse and the dome being filled in.
Thanks for the info Phantom :)
And Maarten's back too! Awesome.
Sorry to hear that Maarten, we did not venture to the hotel area last trip (Marriott offers a much better quality experience for us). But the parks were in better condition than I have seen them for a long time. The 15th started the ball rolling, but our trip in May, every attraction was in great order, and finally the Labrynth had been properly refurbed.
Last year, our experience of the Hotel New York was less than stellar, but the Disneyland Hotel was in great condition. Sad really, the HNY used to be awesome.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Agreed, a lot of these newbies really don't know what they are missing, and wonder why some of us get so grumpy.
I know exactly what you mean, although I think I might be the oldest member on here !!!! :( I am closer to fifty than forty now !!
Quote from: "Timbo"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Agreed, a lot of these newbies really don't know what they are missing, and wonder why some of us get so grumpy.
I know exactly what you mean, although I think I might be the oldest member on here !!!! :( I am closer to fifty than forty now !!
Lol, I meant newbies to the Disney park experience. But fwiw, you always sound very young and vibrant in your posts Timbo!
Thanks for the ego boost !! ,Davewasbaloo .The first couple of years of DLP were truly magical , as was WDW many years ago, shame so many people never saw it like that !
Quote from: "Timbo"Thanks for the ego boost !! ,Davewasbaloo .The first couple of years of DLP were truly magical , as was WDW many years ago, shame so many people never saw it like that !
Agreed, hardly any of the resorts are what they were. The closest are California and Tokyo because they have a huge local fanbase that will not put up with having less. Look at DCA, they tried to do something on the cheap, it didn't fly, so now they are investing the same amount of money they used to build the place to enhance it further.
Don't get me started on WDW. Overall, I would still rather go to DLP than WDW anyday.
Awww, don't be so harsh with WDW - the Magic Kingdom sucks, but I still love Epcot - I think it's still one of the best theme parks in the world, and even the new things like Mission: Space or Soaring are perfect fits.
I have never been to any theme park that felt as "mature", and I love it for that...
Quote from: "Quark"Awww, don't be so harsh with WDW - the Magic Kingdom sucks, but I still love Epcot - I think it's still one of the best theme parks in the world, and even the new things like Mission: Space or Soaring are perfect fits.
I have never been to any theme park that felt as "mature", and I love it for that...
Call me a big kid, but between the sucky MK, the red necks and the weather, I am not a huge fan. Add the poor value hotels and commute across property, although we enjoy ourselves, not a huge fan anymore. To me the DL/DLP experience is the heart of Disney and WDW really lacks that.
However, Epcot and DAK are amazing and the only reason we go. DCA used to have some of the mature feel of Epcot, but sadly they are ripping that out as more and more toons move in.
Hm - for me it's the opposite. Between all of the chain-smoking and queue jumping French who treat it as "their" parks since the "Euro" was dropped from the name, I'm really not such a big fan anymore. It used to be great when there really WERE people from all over Europe in the earlier years, but for my taste it has tipped distinctly towards the chauvinistic French direction.
Don't get me wrong, I love France and the French - it's just the wrong type of people in the parks I feel.
Poor value hotels at WDW - don't get me started about Paris :D
I think we can agree on the "proper" Disneyland, though. I never thought that it could be that different, but it really STILL is a magical place. And I definitely need to give Tokyo a try - maybe next year...
I hear you. THough when I can stay at the fab Marriott closer to the parks than Davy Crockett, that's cool in my books. And agreed, though DLP is not what it was in the early years, it is still miles better than the MK. But yep, if DL were closer, I would stop bothering with DLP too.
davewasbaloo and quark:
I have been following your conversation very interested, because I know what you are talking about when you mention the early spell of DLP. It was extraordinairy wonderful and that was exactly what got me hooked.
What I found equally interesting are your comparisons between all the Disneyparks, since I haven't been able to see any of them except WDW, but that was with a huge group of exchange students and visiting a Disneypark like that when you are such a huge addict like I am was horrible! :?
and since I won't be able to see any other parks in the nearer and farer future, I love reading your coments because it gives me an opportunity to share into it a little bit. Thanks!
Quote from: "Maarten"I do miss the stage and the lights between the columns. Why did they ever remove them anyway?
i'm missing them too :(
Quote from: "kmara"davewasbaloo and quark:
I have been following your conversation very interested, because I know what you are talking about when you mention the early spell of DLP. It was extraordinairy wonderful and that was exactly what got me hooked.
What I found equally interesting are your comparisons between all the Disneyparks, since I haven't been able to see any of them except WDW, but that was with a huge group of exchange students and visiting a Disneypark like that when you are such a huge addict like I am was horrible! :?
and since I won't be able to see any other parks in the nearer and farer future, I love reading your coments because it gives me an opportunity to share into it a little bit. Thanks!
Thank you kmara. I have been wondering about leaving the Disney web communities lately because I think that would make people happier and be less of a drain on my time. But when I read things like this, it makes me rethink.
My negative posts are not for the fun of it. They are intended to get people to stop and think, and voice their opinion with guest relations if they have a concern. And also, when the Disney folks read the boards (which I know they do), I hope they stop and think (for example with the new refurbs).
And I will compliament Disney if they get it right (for example I was the first to share the refurb pics of the Labrynth, as well as maxing my delights about last halloween's celebrations).
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Quote from: "kmara"davewasbaloo and quark:
I have been following your conversation very interested, because I know what you are talking about when you mention the early spell of DLP. It was extraordinairy wonderful and that was exactly what got me hooked.
What I found equally interesting are your comparisons between all the Disneyparks, since I haven't been able to see any of them except WDW, but that was with a huge group of exchange students and visiting a Disneypark like that when you are such a huge addict like I am was horrible! :?
and since I won't be able to see any other parks in the nearer and farer future, I love reading your coments because it gives me an opportunity to share into it a little bit. Thanks!
Thank you kmara. I have been wondering about leaving the Disney web communities lately because I think that would make people happier and be less of a drain on my time. But when I read things like this, it makes me rethink.
My negative posts are not for the fun of it. They are intended to get people to stop and think, and voice their opinion with guest relations if they have a concern. And also, when the Disney folks read the boards (which I know they do), I hope they stop and think (for example with the new refurbs).
And I will compliament Disney if they get it right (for example I was the first to share the refurb pics of the Labrynth, as well as maxing my delights about last halloween's celebrations).
DONT LEAVE !!!! I really enjoy reading your posts. I find it really refreshing that you dont see Disney through rose-tinted glasses. Apart from my one visit to WDW in'88, I've only visited the parks from 2004-present. So if you say Disney ain't what it used to be, then I'll take your word for it :)
I know it is off topic to this thread, but I really hope that you don't leave the forums, davewasbaloo. It is always very interesting to read your posts, because of the comparisions you make with the other resorts.
I do understand your critics, but for me DLRP is still a very good resort and we also had a lot of fun at WDW, although the MK is really a bad park. Nevertheless the other three parks are great. We started going to Disney in 2006 and have been to DLRP every year since then, so I don't know how it was 10 or 15 years ago. In my opinion the quality of DLRP even improved during the last 3 years. In 2006 DLP was not in a very good condition compared to our last visit in 2008.
What I don't like about Disney at the moment that everything new is based on Pixar, toons or princesses and that Disney is just focusing on children, especially little ones.
I really hope that Disney will reach the standard again that the parks had 15 years ago, like you discribed.
I must admit, when I first joined these forums I found it hard to understand what davewasbaloo was talking about. My first visit was in 2001. What made me realise about the problems at Disney was my favourite attraction - Rock 'n' Roller Coaster. The way it was once so good, then over the years dramatically dropped in quality. It suddenly made me realise what Dave was talking about; about how this drop in quality has not only happend to RnRC, but to the whole resort.
And just to keep this post on topic... what's this about Earls of Sandwich? Is it really going to be built? In a NEW building?
Me too I'm completely off topic but please don't leave davewasbaloo. Most of us tend to only see the good in all things Disney, is really important to have someone who can see that all's not well and remind us. I don't like people who criticise Disney but haven't been to the parks or don't watch the movies, some people really love to talk about what they know nothing about. You on the other hand are a real fan and you really know what you're talking about, and we need you here.
And now back on topic, last weekend we saw they were building a little Circus stage in the DV (in front of Annette's), anyone know what that is?
Awe, thanks guys, I am glad I talked it out rather than just disappearing. I want to love Disney (and believe me, I do - it has been a life long obsession). Disney made me who I am, and do the things I do in life. It has impacted on the decor of my home. Disney used to really stretch and be about inspiring and learning. Some of that is still just about there (Epcot and DAK especially), but not as much.
I really want a balance, somewhere that is fun for the kids, but the adults too. That's what Walt Disney wanted, and to me, he was one of my greatest inspriations. And I am not naive, I have run multi million € businesses internationally, there are steps they can (and do take). And I am keen we applaud them when we do.
No doubt, in many ways DLP is better than 5 years ago (maintenance, cast and cleaning) and in other ways not (entertainment, staggered hours and merchandise). I doubt we will ever see the level we once enjoyed there, but I think it is really important for the longevity of Disney that they do not think short term. And no doubt, new guests will still be wowed. But it is the long term fan base that made Disney such a success, and enabled them to come to Europe.
Back on topic, the circus in the village has been a summer addition for many years, it is clown acts during the weekends.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"But it is the long term fan base that made Disney such a success, and enabled them to come to Europe.
Now that is an interesting statement. True, Disney has always leaned a lot on repeat visitors. But are repeat visitors automatically "long term fans"? Mhm... And: are we talking about Disney park-fans or Disney-fans in general?
Anyway - it *is* great you are staying. I doubt I would dare posing this question if it hadn't been you who made the statement. Your views are always very welcomed and make for wonderful discussions. :)
Ah, but yes... back on topic: so, when is that Earl of Sandwich opening again? :wink:
I hear what Dave is saying. But I think EuroDisney do a good job, I don't know how they do it. All those hotels to maintain, two theme parks and they hardly make any money out of it. How to you maintain standards when your not making any money in a recession? I've asked this question many times and people just talk about the past and the so called golden years, when the resort nearly went bankrupt. I want to see EuroDisney on a sound financial footing so it can grow. I also want a balance in the theme parks for adults and children, too. But when the studios first opened there wasn't much balance for children. So Disney try to correct this with Toy Story Playland and people criticise it for being to toon like. I can not understand why people would think there're too many toons in the parks. The characters really make it for many people. But I get the impression that they muck up the themeing for others. People can take the characters or leave them, can't they. I'm sure kids today want to see their favourite characters like Buzz lightyear. Walt Disney left a great legacy. And had it not been for the success of his cartoon films, Disneyland would never have happend. People also talk about slippage, but more people in the world have the chance to go to a Disney theme park than ever before, which I think is something to cheer about. I never had the chance to go to Disneyland in America when I was growing up. But it's not perfect. Favourite shows come and go, but isn't that inevitable. I think it can fair to criticise. But sometimes It comes across as critisism for critisisms sake, to me.
Quote from: "ed-uk"I hear what Dave is saying. But I think EuroDisney do a good job, I don't know how they do it. All those hotels to maintain, two theme parks and they hardly make any money out of it. How to you maintain standards when your not making any money in a recession?
I can not understand why people would think there're too many toons in the parks. The characters really make it for many people. I'm sure kids today want to see their favourite characters like Buzz lightyear. Walt Disney left a great legacy. And had it not been for the success of his cartoon films, Disneyland would never have happend. People also talk about slippage, but more people in the world have the chance to go to a Disney theme park than ever before, which I think is something to celebrate. But it's not perfect. Favourite shows come and go, but isn't that inevitable.
Well, the money spent on these cheesy marketing celebrations, the rework of Backlot Express and TSPL could be better spent on maintenance, streetmousphere and saving for better capital investment projects later. That is my main beef.
As for the toons, DL did not even have meet and greets in their early years in the US, and other than the meets and greets, the toons only ever lived in Fantasyland. Tomorrowland, Adventureland and Frontierland had learning experiences and were about immersing yourself in the theme. That is why DL is often called the 1st "Theme Park", not a toon park.
Many of us have gone to the parks for generations because of the themes. The toon mania seems to be a relatively new phenomena.
Look at the best attractions and most popular in the Disney universe. How many are toon themed? How many are not? I think that says it all really.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Quote from: "kmara"davewasbaloo and quark:
I have been following your conversation very interested, because I know what you are talking about when you mention the early spell of DLP. It was extraordinairy wonderful and that was exactly what got me hooked.
What I found equally interesting are your comparisons between all the Disneyparks, since I haven't been able to see any of them except WDW, but that was with a huge group of exchange students and visiting a Disneypark like that when you are such a huge addict like I am was horrible! :?
and since I won't be able to see any other parks in the nearer and farer future, I love reading your coments because it gives me an opportunity to share into it a little bit. Thanks!
Thank you kmara. I have been wondering about leaving the Disney web communities lately because I think that would make people happier and be less of a drain on my time. But when I read things like this, it makes me rethink.
My negative posts are not for the fun of it. They are intended to get people to stop and think, and voice their opinion with guest relations if they have a concern. And also, when the Disney folks read the boards (which I know they do), I hope they stop and think (for example with the new refurbs).
And I will compliament Disney if they get it right (for example I was the first to share the refurb pics of the Labrynth, as well as maxing my delights about last halloween's celebrations).
oh no, dave don't leave!!! that would be such a loss.... we need criticism and when it is combined with good ideas - like what you do - then it absolutely indispensable!
it really makes my heart ache when I think about the first years of dlp, but then again I remember how worried I was when they nearly went bankrupt!
I am glad to read that things are turning around and I hope they also will in merchandising (for me it has never been as easy to save money on souvernirs as it was during the last couple years; I just didn't want the things they are trying to sell badly enough...), streetmousphere and maintenance (which has already started as you report).
I find it always very intersting to read your topics and posts and reports, especially
because they are not only glorifying!
[quote="davewasbalooWell, the money spent on these cheesy marketing celebrations, the rework of Backlot Express and TSPL could be better spent on maintenance, streetmousphere and saving for better capital investment projects later. That is my main beef.
As for the toons, DL did not even have meet and greets in their early years in the US, and other than the meets and greets, the toons only ever lived in Fantasyland. Tomorrowland, Adventureland and Frontierland had learning experiences and were about immersing yourself in the theme. That is why DL is often called the 1st "Theme Park", not a toon park.
Many of us have gone to the parks for generations because of the themes. The toon mania seems to be a relatively new phenomena.
Look at the best attractions and most popular in the Disney universe. How many are toon themed? How many are not? I think that says it all really.[/quote]
Sorry, you've lost me. Peter Pans Flight, that's toon themed and very popular. I could say Snow White, there are others. Even if DL didn't have meet and greets in the early years, it's no reason not to have them now. Stitch is popular but we couldn't have him, well we could but he'd be limited to Fantasyland. How many people go to Disneyland and are disappointed to see toons in Discoveryland or Adventureland? The toons really make it for some people but for others they just muck up the themeing. Can't people take them or leave them. Disney have spent a fortune on TOT and new themeing at the WDS, none of it toon based. The company use there characters to refresh their parks. Disneyland isn't new anymore and they have to introduce it to a modern audience, not just hold on to the old one. They still have to market their theme parks. OK you think MMP is cheesy. People have got used to the marketing for the 15th, now Disney have changed things, when people liked it just fine the way things were. We're going to have to agree to differ. Disneyland is a theme park. Not a history park.
QuotePeter Pans Flight, that's toon themed and very popular. I could say Snow White, there are others.
But they're relatively minor attractions. We're talking about the major ones. Things like Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Big Thunder - the ones which are most significant in Disney history. Very few of them are toon-based.
QuoteDisney have spent a fortune on TOT and new themeing at the WDS, none of it toon based.
Cars, Crush's Coaster, Stitch Live, Toy Story Playland, Ratatouille?
QuoteDisneyland isn't new anymore and they have to introduce it to a modern audience, not just hold on to the old one. They still have to market their theme parks.
That's still no excuse to throw toons in everything. There is still a wide variety of themes that aren't toon-based and would still interest newer audiences.
Peter Pans Flight is very popular though. Ok Haunted Mansion, Pirates (which both later became films if not toon films) Space Mountain, TOT and BTM may not be based on Toons. But if we're talking about Disney History you can't deny the importance of the cartoon films. I myself don't have a problem with Crushes coater or Stitch live being based on cartoon Characters. They have turned out to be popular attractions haven't they, so Disney didn't get it wrong. There may be a variety of other themes that Disney could use in their parks. They built DCA on that very theory, they didn't have any toons there when it opened. Any one would think we were falling over toons to get through the door. I agree there must be a balance for adults and children. But I don't think Disney is wrong to cash in on the success of their films. When they invest millions in their parks they have to judge what will be most popular. It's their call. And with 11 theme parks in the world they must be doing something right. Some people think DL is the best. They certainly have toons there.
So many issues here, so little time.
RNRCJr is right. I was referring to the fact that Main Street, Frontierland, Phantom Manor, Big Thunder, the Mark Twain, the Train, Pirates of the Caribbean, Space Mountain, Moteurs Action, Rock N Roller Coaster, Cinemagique (in the main), Tower of Terror are not toon related.
In WDW add in mainstays such as Country BEars, Hall of Presidents, Carousel of Progress, Spaceship Earth, Test Track, Soarin' Great Movie Ride, Kilemenjaro Safari, Expedition Everest.
All of these are the most popular attractions and the ones people travel for 1000's of miles and spend a fortune to experience. Not so much for the toons (other when the kids are little or the handfully of furry followers out there).
As for DCA, the problem was not the theme or lack of characters, it was the lack of immersive theming and a cheap budget that hurt the place. Epcot is hugely popular, and the characters have only been creeping in for the last 10 years or so.
And while Peter Pan is very popular, it has a very low hourly capacity, so it has far less guests each day than Phantom manor which is a people eating omnimover.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Epcot is hugely popular, and the characters have only been creeping in for the last 10 years or so.
Have only been to Epcot once (well, twice : Monday + Friday) in 1988, over 20 years ago, and the toons were everywhere. There was something similar to the Character Express except it was a open-topped double decker bus. It appeared so frequently it was as if constantly drove around the lake only stopping at each country. Must have seen it about 5 times before we got all the way round . :?
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Epcot is hugely popular, and the characters have only been creeping in for the last 10 years or so.
Have only been to Epcot once (well, twice : Monday + Friday) in 1988, over 20 years ago, and the toons were everywhere. There was something similar to the Character Express except it was a open-topped double decker bus. It appeared so frequently it was as if constantly drove around the lake only stopping at each country. Must have seen it about 5 times before we got all the way round . :?
Well the park is twice the size of DLP, so one bus of characters is hardly everywhere. Compared to now where Nemo has over taken the living seas, the Lion King crew are in a film in the Land and so on.
I have never had a problem with meet and greets as long as they do not interfere with the theming and entertainment. When it becomes all about the characters, that is when I think they have totally lost it.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"I have never had a problem with meet and greets as long as they do not interfere with the theming and entertainment. When it becomes all about the characters, that is when I think they have totally lost it.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Well the park is twice the size of DLP, so one bus of characters is hardly everywhere. Compared to now where Nemo has over taken the living seas, the Lion King crew are in a film in the Land and so on.
Ahh, I understand now :)
For example, I love Tron, and I think it would be really cool to have a Tron meet and greet or show in Discoveryland, but it would be out of place elsewhere. YEt the Genie is often seen doing the character meal in the LUcky Nugget - this seems so wrong. But if he and Aladdin and Jafar occassionally popped up in the old Bazaar, that's fine.
But again, not at the expense of the other entertainment. If it is an either or, give me the theme appropriate entertainment anyday.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"For example, I love Tron.
:D Another Tron fan !! Can't wait for the sequel ,hope they will make a ride from this !!
Sorry I know I am straying off topic ! :roll:
Well lets get back on topic. They need to make a Flynn's Arcade in the DV. Inside they need one of those lasers the MCP uses in the first Tron. Then we could all have a lightcycle of our own [-o<
Article about a possible Jules Verne pub from DLRP Today:
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Now this I would definitely be in support of!
Quote from: "RnRCj"Article about a possible Jules Verne pub from DLRP Today:
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Now this I would definitely be in support of!
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From DLRPToday (15/8/09)
Should the Village ever finally expand into a full second street of restaurants and shops, they'll certainly need a lot of tenants to fill the space.
Would I be a happy man [-o< [-o<
to me it would be nice to see them do more with the village, after all it could do with getting more added to it.
I know they concentrate alot more on the parks but maybe the village should not be forgotten about?
In my opinion it is really necessary to expand the DV. When we have been to DLRP in September 2008 it was really hard to get a table in some restaurants and bars and it was not high season.
A new Pub/Bar would be a very nice addition to the resort.
DLRPToday has posted a very interesting article about the resort expansion:
http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/11/04/for ... -projects/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/11/04/forget-shanghai-paris-lets-slip-major-projects/)
It looks like DV Expansion is really coming.
this is such good news and about time as well I have always thougth that they could do so much more with DV and finaly they will be!
That is insanely good news, I can't believe that's it's dipped under the radar like it has so far! :wink:
Anyone know or have any idea of when we expect to see any of this open, or when construction start? :)
As it says in the article, "Between now and
2015". That's for the Convention Centre, new TGV booking hall, and a 750-room hotel. I'd be surprised if Disney Village was expanded fully as those earlier plans show (with the connecting street and new Lake Disney hotel), but would expect in the very least World of Disney to finally start rising.
The most interesting quote:
Quote"Parallel to this, the resort's traditional tourism activity will continue to be developed, with the expected expansion of Disney Village and the construction of new attractions in the theme parks... which will be the object of an announcement at the end of the year."
Quote from: "Anthony"As it says in the article, "Between now and 2015". That's for the Convention Centre, new TGV booking hall, and a 750-room hotel. I'd be surprised if Disney Village was expanded fully as those earlier plans show (with the connecting street and new Lake Disney hotel), but would expect in the very least World of Disney to finally start rising.
Woops, must have missed that :roll:
Perhaps it'll all be completed with the new Disney Village for the Resort's 25th anniversary in 2017 then!? (scary that I'm already thinking about that :lol: )
Quote from: "Anthony"The most interesting quote:
Quote"Parallel to this, the resort's traditional tourism activity will continue to be developed, with the expected expansion of Disney Village and the construction of new attractions in the theme parks... which will be the object of an announcement at the end of the year."
Yes I noticed that too. Very exciting stuff! Hopefully they'll do an event/announcement like the one for Buzz, Toon Studio and Tower of Terror (50th anniversary event???), announcing Toy Story Playland (before it actually opens :wink: ), all the way up to the Top Secret
*cough*Ratatouille*cough* attraction for the 20th Anniversary :)
At last!
I would be very surprised to see an actual new Disney hotel arise, to be honest, but here's hoping. I mean, US Disney doesn't even do that anymore (it's all just Vacation Club wings now, not much creativity required there,) let alone Euro Disney.
I think we should expect a lot more of that polite green Val d'Europe architecture for these developments, and that's not a bad thing at all — far better than Walt Disney World's Downtown Disney shacks in any case. But this new hotel... Shopping mall architecture wouldn't quite suffice there.
And would they play by the old rules and theme the hotel(s) to an area of the US? Remember the New Orleans rumors? And this convention center; will they go for the familiar tactic of attaching it to a hotel or will it be a separate thing? So many questions.
And one more architectural quibble — wouldn't the French government have the final say on the expansion of the TGV station? Because that might be a little troubling.
In any case, excellent news; the thought of actual movement in that dead dead dead area of the resort, that sad reminder of plans never executed, is exciting.
Quote from: "pussinboots"And would they play by the old rules and theme the hotel(s) to an area of the US? Remember the New Orleans rumors? And this convention center; will they go for the familiar tactic of attaching it to a hotel or will it be a separate thing? So many questions.
Was there ever anything behind the New Orleans rumours? As a theme it'd make complete sense, especially for the lakeside plot with shopping/dining on the ground floor, but hopefully it's not just our wishful thinking.
If they're only starting with one hotel, it depends which they pick. The lakeside hotel would surely have to be fully-themed, the other not so much. It also depends whether they're going to target it solely at convention business. One plus of those most recent plans is that the hotel seems to be separate, meaning it wouldn't be a no-go for regular park visitors.
Quote from: "pussinboots"And one more architectural quibble — wouldn't the French government have the final say on the expansion of the TGV station? Because that might be a little troubling.
I remember years ago seeing a concept drawing of it. All curvy roof and glassy walls, perhaps a bit of modern wood cladding too. Just like any other TGV station. I think that was still back when the car park next door was going to be unthemed though. Now that that's been built with American art deco touches, I don't know what they'd do...
Edit: Grandmath on DCP posted some good précisions about the hotel... It'll be the one on the left built in this phase, and though it'll be themed (most likely art deco to match the Parking/IMAX/Studios) it will certainly be more modern and business-orientated, with a direct link into the Convention Centre - though it will still be open for regular tourist business. For 100% Disney, we'll need to look to the lakeside hotel.
Also points out that the 20000 m² of the Convention Centre is smaller than the full build-out, which will be completed if it's a success. And confirms that the parking of the two new hotels will be underground.
In fact, after staring at the plan again, I noticed you can see the entrance/exit ramps leading off the middle road between the Convention Centre and Newport Bay Club:
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I guess the parking will be beneath the grassy square there. Very nice.
Quote from: "Anthony"Was there ever anything behind the New Orleans rumours? As a theme it'd make complete sense, especially for the lakeside plot with shopping/dining on the ground floor, but hopefully it's not just our wishful thinking.
If they're only starting with one hotel, it depends which they pick. The lakeside hotel would surely have to be fully-themed, the other not so much. It also depends whether they're going to target it solely at convention business. One plus of those most recent plans is that the hotel seems to be separate, meaning it wouldn't be a no-go for regular park visitors.
True, although I'm not sure that's a plus. And you made a point earlier on about the unlikelihood of quite that much Disney Village expansion, and indeed it would seem more typical of them to develop the hotel plot next to the convention center and aim all their efforts at catering to businessmen's wallets rather than building exciting new sights for Joe Disney Guest over at the Lake Disney plot...
But without that Lake Disney hotel, and especially without the connecting street in Disney Village, there would still be quite a bit of wasteland, and guest flow wouldn't improve much. (Although any pedestrian traffic at all between Val d'Europe and the parks would be a novelty, wouldn't it?)
The issue of guest flow around the resort is really interesting to me, because right now it's dire. People flock to the main street of Disney Village (which we need a name for,) often rendering it in complete gridlock, while the IMAX side is dead — and, something that doesn't help the former, a dead end. After the parks close, the RER station becomes one of those places people dash through with kung-fu grips on their wallets. Ditto for the esplanade with its vendors and machine guns. The Lake Disney area, though designed for recreation, only serves as more than a circular thoroughfare on the sunniest of days. All in all, a far cry from the pleasant urban hustle and bustle they were hoping for back in the early '90s.
I would love to see the heart of the resort develop into more than one claustrophobic street surrounded by things either utilitarian or barren.
QuoteI remember years ago seeing a concept drawing of it. All curvy roof and glassy walls, perhaps a bit of modern wood cladding too. Just like any other TGV station. I think that was still back when the car park next door was going to be unthemed though. Now that that's been built with American art deco touches, I don't know what they'd do...
I don't suppose that concept art is online anywhere, is it.
But it's not the French government anyway, it's the SNCF, isn't it. Unless that is government-owned, of course.
And to its credit, the SNCF has built some lovely stations this past decade or so. I was just worried they would want the thing to match the current station, and we would be in for a sort of replica of that misguided postmodern take on 19th century stations.
Quote from: "Anthony"Edit: Grandmath on DCP posted some good précisions about the hotel... It'll be the one on the left built in this phase, and though it'll be themed (most likely art deco to match the Parking/IMAX/Studios) it will certainly be more modern and business-orientated, with a direct link into the Convention Centre - though it will still be open for regular tourist business. For 100% Disney, we'll need to look to the lakeside hotel.
Also points out that the 20000 m² of the Convention Centre is smaller than the full build-out, which will be completed if it's a success. And confirms that the parking of the two new hotels will be underground.
In fact, after staring at the plan again, I noticed you can see the entrance/exit ramps leading off the middle road between the Convention Centre and Newport Bay Club:
I guess the parking will be beneath the grassy square there. Very nice.
Wouldn't that be their second business-oriented art deco hotel then? But excellent idea about the parking. Rather extravagant, even. We can't have unsightly cars ruining the view, hide them underground! Perhaps they figured they can charge more for park views than parking lot views.
Quote from: "pussinboots"True, although I'm not sure that's a plus.
Why's that? I was thinking more an eggs in basket situation, you don't want a very business-orientated hotel joined onto a convention centre if the convention centre (somehow) flops. Grandmath mentions there will be some kind of connection between the two.
Some very old plans from the late 90s attempt to get this off the ground showed the hall on the same spot but with a hotel built into it, surrounded on all sides by surface parking and very dislocated from the resort centre.
Quote from: "pussinboots"But without that Lake Disney hotel, and especially without the connecting street in Disney Village, there would still be quite a bit of wasteland, and guest flow wouldn't improve much. (Although any pedestrian traffic at all between Val d'Europe and the parks would be a novelty, wouldn't it?)
Now you mention it, guest flow would be awful. If people visiting the convention centre stayed anywhere other than the connected hotel, how would they get to it? The joining street will be very important, but could Euro Disney SCA really find the money to build it and be able to sign up enough tenants? I suppose by 2015 it's not impossible...
Quote from: "pussinboots"I was just worried they would want the thing to match the current station, and we would be in for a sort of replica of that misguided postmodern take on 19th century stations.
Funny you should say that. It's not the postmodern section, but in an old Cast Member magazine I got today there's a plan for this area I've never seen before, with a structure exactly like the RER one used for this second TGV entrance. Even better (or worse) it's shown next to a building marked "Animation Studios" for the feature animation department which was closed a few years later. Phew.
I've never been able to find that more recent concept again. Maybe I dreamt it. Even if I did, it was an inoffensive modern design, but would look out of place next to the art deco car park now.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Wouldn't that be their second business-oriented art deco hotel then?
Good point. I'm hoping for something more Pueblo Deco, Tower of Terror. More adult but warm and very yellow. I suppose Disney's Hollywood Hotel in Hong Kong could be a model, but I hope not.
I'd like to see a theme similar to the Alton Towers Hotel, which isn't too overpowering but still has the opportunity for Disney to add their little touches.
The theme is basically discovery and travel, where Sir Algenon has brought back various things from his travels around the world. I really believe that if Disney used a similar theme it would look fantastic.
I think it would fit pretty nicely with a conference centre.
Quote from: "Anthony"Why's that? I was thinking more an eggs in basket situation, you don't want a very business-orientated hotel joined onto a convention centre if the convention centre (somehow) flops. Grandmath mentions there will be some kind of connection between the two.
Some very old plans from the late 90s attempt to get this off the ground showed the hall on the same spot but with a hotel built into it, surrounded on all sides by surface parking and very dislocated from the resort centre.
I just think it's about time they get back into the game of adding to the Disneyland Paris visible to guests. So much of what they've built these past two decades feels sectioned off, like revenue generators hidden from view. Which is exactly what this new hotel is, of course, but that doesn't mean it can't double as a Disney hotel, sport facilities open to all and be at home among the big seven hotels instead of tucked away on page 24 of the brochure in fine print. Hotel New York manages just fine as both a (slightly more formal) family hotel and a suit-and-tie affair.
And anyway, the site sits adjacent to the site of planned Disney Village expansions, so they'd be practically forced to incorporate it in some way.
QuoteNow you mention it, guest flow would be awful. If people visiting the convention centre stayed anywhere other than the connected hotel, how would they get to it? The joining street will be very important, but could Euro Disney SCA really find the money to build it and be able to sign up enough tenants? I suppose by 2015 it's not impossible...
Exactly. Without the second hotel and the expanded Disney Village, you get an odd and inconvenient gap in the lovely network of passageways they dreamed up in '04. Perhaps they'll build some of the paths with walls around them as they did for the IMAX and Vinci parking structure. In any case, the roundabout next to the IMAX needs to go.
QuoteFunny you should say that. It's not the postmodern section, but in an old Cast Member magazine I got today there's a plan for this area I've never seen before, with a structure exactly like the RER one used for this second TGV entrance. Even better (or worse) it's shown next to a building marked "Animation Studios" for the feature animation department which was closed a few years later. Phew.
I've never been able to find that more recent concept again. Maybe I dreamt it. Even if I did, it was an inoffensive modern design, but would look out of place next to the art deco car park now.
Yikes. The RER station is by far the worst part. All suburban RER stations are dreary and utilitarian. I think that what the SNCF fails to understand is that while their vandalism-proof, graffiti-proof station design might be an excellent fit for the type of banlieue where people torch cars, it isn't as necessary in places like Disneyland Paris, Val d'Europe or even Bussy-St-Georges. But I digress.
QuoteI'm hoping for something more Pueblo Deco, Tower of Terror. More adult but warm and very yellow. I suppose Disney's Hollywood Hotel in Hong Kong could be a model, but I hope not.
They might also look into the Ambassador in Tokyo, which is a little more formal. Although Hotel New York is a lot more interesting on the outside than either one. (And perhaps a little more dull on the inside.)
They could also just build another Hollywood Tower Hotel, but with actual rooms in it...
About whether it's a business/tourist hotel, that's actually what I was trying to say. If it was fully connected to the convention centre, it might well be hidden from normal guests. So I agree with all of that. From the looks of the plans, it'll certainly be open for all.
I'd imagine with that location though, it could well be asking prices higher than New York. You'd be right in the middle of the new Disney Village, seconds from the parks but not locked inside them, as at Disneyland Hotel. So that's another discussion - what price market are they looking for with this new hotel? The location seems to demand high prices, but would they get takers? (Especially from businesses cutting back on things like travel expenses)
Quote from: "pussinboots"They could also just build another Hollywood Tower Hotel, but with actual rooms in it...
Yes please. Like a rival hotel. Maybe even use some touches from Florida's Tower?
But the Ambassador Hotel, which I've never really explored in detail before, looks literally spot on.
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How did I miss this one... The circles, the columns. And the underlined signage (best I can describe it) is also exactly what they've got at NEX and the parking. I'd hope the blue be switched with a teal or red though, and a warmer yellow. It's a cold-looking hotel on the outside, but is exactly in the vein of Production Courtyard. Very very good call.
There's even a connection already there:
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Boutique called "Festival Disney". It was meant to be!
http://www.disneyhotels.jp/dah/english/ ... html#lobby (http://www.disneyhotels.jp/dah/english/other/index.html#lobby)
Quote from: "Anthony"About whether it's a business/tourist hotel, that's actually what I was trying to say. If it was fully connected to the convention centre, it might well be hidden from normal guests. So I agree with all of that. From the looks of the plans, it'll certainly be open for all.
Ah, I see, my apologies. I suppose we can expect something similar to the convention centers of Hotel New York and the Newport Bay Club, in that it will be separate but dressed up to match the hotel. (If you look at the 2004 plan, the convention center does appear to have decorative turrets of some kind.)
QuoteI'd imagine with that location though, it could well be asking prices higher than New York. You'd be right in the middle of the new Disney Village, seconds from the parks but not locked inside them, as at Disneyland Hotel. So that's another discussion - what price market are they looking for with this new hotel? The location seems to demand high prices, but would they get takers? (Especially from businesses cutting back on things like travel expenses)
Plus, again, no parking lot views. But you raise a good point. I don't know all the numbers, but surely it is the value and moderate price classes that are bursting at the seams and not the deluxe one? Santa Fe and Newport Bay Club in particular appear to be permanently in a sort of Christmas Eve frenzy.
And with 750 rooms, this new hotel is rather ambitious as well. (Hotel New York: 565, Disneyland Hotel: 496.)
On the bright side, if it is to be a ritzy affair, it might really gentrify that part of Disney Village, haha. If Disney functioned as a real city, there would be three Starbuckses, a Laura Ashley and a Ralph Lauren store in no time.
QuoteBut the Ambassador Hotel, which I've never really explored in detail before, looks literally spot on.
How did I miss this one... The circles, the columns. And the underlined signage (best I can describe it) is also exactly what they've got at NEX and the parking. I'd hope the blue be switched with a teal or red though, and a warmer yellow. It's a cold-looking hotel on the outside, but is exactly in the vein of Production Courtyard. Very very good call.
It does seem to be a little obscure. The MiraCosta and that overbloated nightmare of a Tokyo Disneyland Hotel have overshadowed it with their pomp and splendor, while it really is quite stylish. It's also more subtle than the Hollywood Hotel in Hong Kong, which is clearly aimed at a lower common denominator. So yes, it would be great if it were their example.
I just hope they won't be infected by that craze of recent years to shape everything like Mickey Mouse's head. I doubt businessmen wish to wake up in Mickey Mouse sheets, open the Mickey Mouse curtains and turn a Mickey Mouse knob to a bathroom with a Mickey Mouse mirror over a Mickey Mouse sink.
I was also thinking of the Ambassador style hotel would be perfect for this site,although the New York also has an Art Deco themeing ,the Ambassador seems to be more true to the style ,with more authentic detailing.It would fit perfectly with the Studios , though I think they would have to play down the Mickey themeing for Europe , which from what I have seen seems to be on every surface they could find !!! I'm sure it is just a cultural thing for the Japanese market !
The hotel was also designed by Robert Stern , who did the NBC , and is one of Disneys' favourite architects . He also did the Boardwalk in WDW which could be a good choice though a little too similar to the NBC.I'm sure it would be a 4* given the location and the chance to earn DLP more Euros !!!!
Quote from: "pussinboots"I just hope they won't be infected by that craze of recent years to shape everything like Mickey Mouse's head
Oh yes, speaking my mind again. That's the only thing I didn't like from the Ambassador's website. The Tokyo Disneyland Hotel seems to suffer the same problem. Hopefully they'll get bored of drawing Mickey shapes by the time they've finished designing World of Disney.
Quote from: "pussinboots"On the bright side, if it is to be a ritzy affair, it might really gentrify that part of Disney Village, haha. If Disney functioned as a real city, there would be three Starbuckses, a Laura Ashley and a Ralph Lauren store in no time.
Lucky DLP wasn't built in the UK, or you'd have to throw in a Tesco Metro.
But yeah, I love the idea of this very multi-functioning space... a city-style Disney hotel. It'd be great if there were shops or restaurants on the ground floor opening out onto the new boulevard, or the hotel's own restaurants were opened up to become part of Disney Village. Maybe even something like a spa would be good here, since the only one at Disneyland Hotel is quite hard to reach. (I'd imagine...) The Village definitely needs more daytime activities.
Are you talking about two different hotels? A convention center hotel behind the Vinci parking and another Disney hotel on the space between DV and NBC?
I thought that it will just be one big hotel with a convention center.
Quote from: "dagobert"Are you talking about two different hotels? A convention center hotel behind the Vinci parking and another Disney hotel on the space between DV and NBC?
I thought that it will just be one big hotel with a convention center.
That's what it's starting to begin to look like. Grandmath's affirmation has been mildly reassuring.
Quote from: "Timbo"I was also thinking of the Ambassador style hotel would be perfect for this site,although the New York also has an Art Deco themeing ,the Ambassador seems to be more true to the style ,with more authentic detailing.It would fit perfectly with the Studios , though I think they would have to play down the Mickey themeing for Europe , which from what I have seen seems to be on every surface they could find !!! I'm sure it is just a cultural thing for the Japanese market !
The hotel was also designed by Robert Stern , who did the NBC , and is one of Disneys' favourite architects . He also did the Boardwalk in WDW which could be a good choice though a little too similar to the NBC.I'm sure it would be a 4* given the location and the chance to earn DLP more Euros !!!!
Oh, it was Stern who did it? He's done excellent work. (Apart from one tiny glitch when he forgot to add about four zeros to the amount of square meters of the Newport Bay Club lobby.) They should commission him if he's still alive.
Yes, Hotel New York isn't really Art Deco in the proper sense of the word (which is, in this case, not really Art Deco at all but the Disney interpretation,) but Micheal Graves' modern take on Deco in which everything is either terra cotta or teal and looks "solid." Which I quite like, personally. Also, to get really obnoxiously semantic, the Ambassador is more Streamline Moderne. But potayto potahto.
But here's my thought. These two hotels would clearly be "twinned" in some way, sharing a courtyard and all. Dramatic ramifications! That means that the second hotel, the one facing Lake Disney, can't have a theme that clashes with the convention center hotel, and would also have to go with the Lake Disney setting and not look foreign right next to the Newport Bay Club. Would Art Deco accomplish all of this? Think of the stakes, people.
Quote from: "Anthony"Lucky DLP wasn't built in the UK, or you'd have to throw in a Tesco Metro.
But yeah, I love the idea of this very multi-functioning space... a city-style Disney hotel. It'd be great if there were shops or restaurants on the ground floor opening out onto the new boulevard, or the hotel's own restaurants were opened up to become part of Disney Village. Maybe even something like a spa would be good here, since the only one at Disneyland Hotel is quite hard to reach. (I'd imagine...) The Village definitely needs more daytime activities.
Precisely. A cafe would be welcome too, as would a moderately-priced-but-not-crappy restaurant like the food court at the Grand Californian.
I know the location on Lake Disney kind of makes an Art Deco Ambassador style hotel , difficult to fit in ,which is why I thought something like the Boardwalk might be a better choice ;if they did it with all the shops and restaurants on the lakeside it could link in to Disney Village quite well.But then this is DLP so it will probally be done on the cheap , with a huge rebuild a few years later to fix it !!! :roll:
Sorry but I really dont have the time to read through ts topic, but whats all this hotel talk about?
Any other improvements I should no about from February time? I know about Starbucks and the Carousel finally going!yay!
No other improvements since those, it's gone a bit quiet.
This might explain the hotel talk, it's connected to plans for a convention centre: http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/11/04/for ... -projects/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/11/04/forget-shanghai-paris-lets-slip-major-projects/)
Wow, that is good news. All looks fab to me. I just hope the new hotels will definitely be 'Disney' hotels - and it will then be interesting to see their theme's!
At first, when you think of an expansion that runs down that 'road', it always seems out of the way, but when you look at the map, it all fits in snug really.
Me likey! :D
Regarding Hurricanes, just been informed its going to close permanently on 31 March of this year and there's no news on its replacement...
Quote from: "Kristof"Regarding Hurricanes, just been informed its going to close permanently on 31 March of this year and there's no news on its replacement...
Why are they closing Hurricanes, not enough guests?
Repositioning of Disney Village. ;-)
I suppose the issue with Hurricanes is that it's a prime spot which sits there empty all day.
I'm shocked it's finally due for the chop though. Quite sad in a way.
Replacement - a family restaurant, that Jules Verne theme pub, extra space for Rainforest Cafe?
Quote from: "Kristof"Repositioning of Disney Village. ;-)
Does that mean that Disney will open a new night club at another location in DV?
Quote from: "Anthony"I suppose the issue with Hurricanes is that it's a prime spot which sits there empty all day.
I'm shocked it's finally due for the chop though. Quite sad in a way.
Replacement - a family restaurant, that Jules Verne theme pub, extra space for Rainforest Cafe?
I'd love a Jules Verne pub! and maybe there would be space for a JV family restaurant too? It could look so good! It'll be interesting to see how long we will have to wait for an announcement regarding Hurricane's replacement... hopefully it won't be too long! [-o<
Repositioning? Toward a family demographic? I suppose that wouldn't have anything to do with the occasionally troublesome local youths who frequent the premises... Although it would be naive to think they'd stay away and the RER station suddenly becomes Celebration, Florida.
I suppose it's for the best. A clean, franchise-filled, mall-like Disney Village might be dull as bricks, but it does seem like the wisest path for them to choose. I really can't see the place blossom as the par-tay center it was envisioned as. Too bad for the Cast Members, though.
My vote goes to the Verne pub as well. I think it would be lovely to have a stylish, interesting establishment that isn't a chain, isn't pointless during the day and has a low threshold.
Anyone have an idea of the floorspace of Hurricanes? The original news article about the Jules Verne pub stated 500m2, which seems far too big... http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/08/15/jul ... age-talks/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/08/15/jules-verne-theme-pub-in-disney-village-talks/)
But it would be a very fitting location, elevated and looking out towards PanoraMagique.
Hurricanes is about 600m2 in total, depending on how you measure it.
According to Disneytheque a new Italian restaurant is a possibility (Tony's Restaurant). I think Disney Village urgently needs a new (big) restaurant. The Italian cuisine is a good choice if you ask me!
If the Hurricanes area is that big, maybe they will add a restaurant AND a pub?
Personally i'd prefer the Jules Verne pub over anything else, for the simply reason that a celebration of him has always supposed to be a part of Disneyland Paris (yeah the pub won't be in Discoveryland but i can live with that).
An Italian restaurant is a good idea too, but out of the two i'd take the pub, something with some well detailed theming and something that can bring something new to the Village is whats needed there.
Grr I hate just having like one topic for all the new stuff in the Village! Its too har to keep a track on whats been said, whats old news, and what I haven't read yet?
So whats all this about a pub and Italian restraunt? Where are they suppose to be going?
Quote from: "Martyn"Grr I hate just having like one topic for all the new stuff in the Village! Its too har to keep a track on whats been said, whats old news, and what I haven't read yet?
So whats all this about a pub and Italian restraunt? Where are they suppose to be going?
Hurricanes Disco, the previous page states when it'll be closing permanently. The JV pub and Italian restaurant are just rumours for now, nothing has been confirmed for what will replace the Hurricanes area.
Quote from: "Martyn"Grr I hate just having like one topic for all the new stuff in the Village! Its too har to keep a track on whats been said, whats old news, and what I haven't read yet?
So whats all this about a pub and Italian restraunt? Where are they suppose to be going?
You can use the search box located next to the "post reply" button. It will only search in this topic.
But I wont know what I'm searching for :P
I'm not into clubbing at all, but I'm kind of sad that Hurricanes is closing. Billy Bob's is now the only drinking outlet for peeps that like a good old knee's up!
Another quickie, are all the shops in the Village still open until silly o'clock? Like 1am weekdays, 3am weekend?
sorry if I have missed it (trying to get back on topic here)
Dose anyone know when the work is due to start?
Was Hurricanes there from the very start in 1992 when Village was called Festival Disney? I've never been into Hurricanes but I would have liked to go in when I got a bit older. Pity it's closing :(
Yes ,the club was there when the park opened in 1992 , that was when I first went in it !!! But never since !
I'm kinda glad its gone, it looked so unappealing and did nothing for me.
Hopefully something decent will replace it.
I hope that Hurricanes will be replaced with a nice sit down restaurant and not with a buffet style restaurant. Maybe there is also some space for a bar or pub.
An Italian style restaurent seems good to me. I love disney village but for so long it seems so "rush along through" to me and the family. It needs to be so much more of a spend time on the evening here place. I'm biased on two sides to be honest the clash between no children hanging out and families. I have kids myself and "imagine" it to be so much more. We've not been to the USA yet so don't know what to compare it against. We just seem to rush through everytime at the end of each night even though I'd like to stay longer. It's a hard choice. I'd like less concrete tho ;-)
Don't get me wrong I love DLRP and as a shareholder I especially care about whats done but ...
Mr_B
You hit the nail on the head Mr_B ! I think the problem with the village is that the area landscaping and themeing don't encourage you to linger , there should be more trees and planting , fountains and better lighting , something to slow you down and make you want to stay a while . Instead it always feels like a concrete and steel tunnel I want to get through as fast as possible !!!
At first they should get rid of these ugly balloons and replace them with real and nice lights. Then they should add more trees and plants. The improvements with the trees they made a few years ago were a step in the right direction.
I would love them to bring back the starry sky lights they were amazing but i doubt that would happen somehow
The starry sky lights were nice, but not during the day. That's the whole problem with the initial Disney Village; they went about it like the Osborne Family Christmas Lights display. Something that looks utilitarian at best during the day and lights up all pretty at night. But obviously, people don't just see the place at night. They really got that right with the Boardwalk in Walt Disney World, which looks great during both.
So has Hurricanes closed down already?
I never saw it open last week though there were lights on and signs out and about advertising it.
And I noticed quite a few of the ballons have started disappearing and have been replaced with nothing, just a hole...
Quote from: "Martyn"So has Hurricanes closed down already?
I never saw it open last week though there were lights on and signs out and about advertising it.
And I noticed quite a few of the ballons have started disappearing and have been replaced with nothing, just a hole...
I don't know if the regular evening program is still happening, but on Feb 23rd an event called "Single Night" is planned
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I think Disney Village needs a Disco! It's the only place in the resort where you can go in the night. Long opening time and a Disco is absolutely necessary!
Will Huricanes be open in May?
Quote from: "ToadWithPinkEyes"Will Huricanes be open in May?
No, it will close for good on March 31st.
That sucks! Thanks for the reply! Even tho the info is probably around somewhere else on the site!
As posted on Disney Central Plaza:
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Does someone already know what will replace Hurricames Night Club? I would prefere an ESPN Zone. I really enjoyed this restaurant and bar in the US.
I just hope it will be something different, thats not 'every day' - like Starbucks and McD's!
I also hope that they do something about that ugly, bold exterior!
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Looking at the picture in this post, is Rainforest Cafe also close temporarily?. The fences appear to cover both of it's entrances (front and side).
Didn't even see that!
Maybe they're re-doing the whole building or something. Now with the Earl of Sandwich coming to the Village it seems to be a right decision if they did...
Here's a pic of the sign on the fences from Disney Gazette...
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They might want to re-check the spelling of "rehabilitated". :lol:
lmao thats one big big FAIL
Ouch. Yes, it's signs like these that DLP still really fails at.
What's it trying to say anyway? Is Disney Village closed at some point, you have to get the bus instead?
The path towards Newport Bay Club is fenced off, the sign says you have to walk past Hotel New York to get to it... or take the bus. :-)
How long will the path be fenced off :(?
Talking of dlp sign fails..
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lol love it!
An update for Early Of Sandwhich! Its all surrounded in fences and They've started digging up the Asphalt!
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Great to see that! There are so many wondeful thing going on at the resort right now (I mean the refurbishments ;))
good to see,ta
Do they really need them fences to go all the way up the bridge?
Has that part of the lake been filled in yet?
Construction update for y'all.
More Digging at Earl of Sandwich
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ANd lights for the very nice construction walls! Whats gone wrong DLP, this is all a bit luxurious for you! :lol:
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Construction walls down from around the abandoned hurricanes! (what is going to happen to that?)
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Bit of ground work i believe has happened here.
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Still fences around Rainforest Cafe.
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According to Disney Gazette it's because Earl of Sandwich needs to be connected to RainForest Cafe's sewer system as its being built on newly reclaimed land!
thanks for the updated pictures !
wonderful!
wow i love it how even though those pictures are verrryy cold and rainy..
it still looks like the best place in the world to me ! (L)
cant wait for all the refurbishing to be done.. :D xx
Does anybody have new photo's of this build???
does anyone know when Earl of Sandwich will be finished? :D
I cant wait for Earl of Sandwich!
We'll probably be going around 18th of july next year and hope it opens in time for that [-o<
I personally it needs more shows in the Disney Village because the village does remind me of such places as broadway and west end but without the shows (replaced with resturants)
Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"does anyone know when Earl of Sandwich will be finished? :D
Yes, spring 2011.
Quote from: "Tuvok"Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"does anyone know when Earl of Sandwich will be finished? :D
Yes, spring 2011.
Sounds great :D
Any news on this build or are the on hold at the moment due to all the strikes in France??
Don't think that this has been posted here before, rather interesting, though!!
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Source: Disney Gazette
That's a really interesting diagram, lots to look at and speculate about. I'm guessing the two lighter shaded, orange buildings are hotels?
Interesting plan but not much new. Isn´t that the things that they wanna build for years now? What´s the new timline? 2020? Hope we see soon some movements.
LOVE the mickey head swimming pool!
That's an interesting plan, but unfortunately nothing new. I just hope that Disney will stick to the American theme and that the new hotel will also be themed to an area of the United States. In my opinion the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL would be perfect for the space at Lake Disney and the expansion of DV could be integrated into the hotel, like Disney did in Anaheim with Downtown Disney and the California Hotel.
I can see quite a bit of new stuff, this plan is much more detailed than what we've seen before...
A new RER entrance as well as a second TGV entrance? That's new! (Although I'm sure it's marked on the wrong location, wouldn't it be on the blue/purple area rather than right next to WDS?)
And the shape of those buildings in the Disney Village extension - there appears to be a covered arcade with a glass roof connected to the new Lake Disney hotel, and that huge octagonal building is new - could that be right for a Cirque du Soleil theatre? I think so.
I'm sure the Convention Centre is different, too. It's connected right onto the hotel next door and of course shows the first and second phases.
Rainforest Cafe has received a lovely blue coat! I cant tell from the photo, but it looks like it might fade from a darker blue to a lighter blue at the top - @InsideDLParis tweeted this photo 3 hours ago.
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Well at least we can't complain that it looks dirty anymore :P
I wonder how they'll do the bit at the back? That "shell" thingy will look strange, surely?
Maybe (hopefully) this might be a sort of undercoat for some epic re-themeing? one can hope :lol:
Thanks, Anthony! I put the picture in the original post. :D
I never understood the bit shell thing at the back. Was it always there, or added when it became Rainforest Cafe?
I think Ghery had a thing for the sea, as you can see with Anette's Diner also looks like a shell :P
Hmm. A retail and entertainment district with an industrial/ocean/baloon factory theme? No wonder the Village feels messed up! :P
Quote from: "Columbiad"I never understood the bit shell thing at the back. Was it always there, or added when it became Rainforest Cafe?
It probably made more sense or at least looked less out of place when this was Key West Seafood and Hurricanes. The area where McDonald's now sits originally had a larger marina and was supposed to become a "Key West" themed expansion of Festival Disney...
I hope that part of the building stays white, anyway. The blue on the flat walls looks fine, a good enough improvement, although I might have hoped for something more substantial. Why Hurricanes is still sitting empty I don't know... Could DLP really not find a suitable occupant? Maybe they don't want to, and if so - why not?
I've just seen pictures of the new Lego Store at Downtown Disney at WDW:
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Picture taken from Mouse Steps:
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Now I'm wondering if a Lego Store was ever planned for Disney Village. I think it would be a perfect addition, because Lego is still very popular. Legoland being a competitor can't be the reason why there is no store in Paris, because Legoland isn't owned by Lego and a new Lego park is opening soon in Florida.
Ummm...perfect for the Disney Store when World of Disney opens?
Well I was hoping for a lot more than just a paint job for the Rainforest Cafe.
Surely a nicer green would have been better suited?
Just wondered if anything is happening with Hurricanes?
Haven't heard any news on this for ages and would expect that Disney would want this prime area filled.
Hope this is in the right topic, mods please move if not.
A cast member at DLP has posted on Twitter some plans for the next year which involve the Disney Village and Esplanade.
QuoteQuoteA new visual for Wild West show, World of Disney store, new security checks, and a new and bigger esplanade are some projects for next year