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This is the topic for all posts regarding Studio Tram Tour - Behind the magic.  :D

There's been discussion in every single other topic on the forum recently, it's that popular! :lol:

It actually seems to have by far the lowest score of any E-ticket on DLRP Review... do you think DLRP know it's not so good, and they're waiting for the right time/money to fix it, or are they quite happy?

Well , I agree with them to first fix the television studios.. but this surely comes second!

It certainly needs updating or something new, lets see how popular TOT is first :wink:

Actually, just thinking about it, if it is updated, it'll have to be done hugely so that DLRP can re-market the ride. For example, if they only add a small change, it won't bring in any more customers, but change it in a big way, and it will :D

I remember reading these rumours on Disney Central Plaza how a Pearl Harbour scene on the same scale as Catastrophe Canyon was considered to be added...  I even think Kinou posted that...  Maybe he knows more?

Ew, please not a Pearl Harbor scene! :lol: Would be interesting to hear rumours though.

They ought to make use of all the great live action films they've had since 2002. Back then they had Dinotopia and Reign of Fire... now they've got National Treasure, Pirates of the Caribbean, and many more.

I expected the queue to be changed with the Hollywood works, they're still running it with about 6 lanes, which can't be fun for the CMs.

They should deffently add some more scenes and get rid of the Dinotopia and Reign of Fire sets, they are good sets but the movie and series didn't do brilliant and many people may not know about them.  I seen both Dinotopia and Reign of Fire and i thought they wern't great.

I think a Pearl Harbour or Pirates of the Caribbean set would be great, it could replace the Reign of Fire set and maybe part of a set from a different block buster movie to replace Dinotopia.

Yeah they should make a Pirates of the Carribean scene! Like a fight between  the black pearl and another ship and that your right in the middle of it. With rain and bombs and the pirates music! :)

At least they have to make it a bit more excited!

I think the Reign of Fire set could do with a bit of a refurb. It's the only part I am quite disappointed with. You get all that anticipation waiting for something big to happen then all you get is a flame. I think a big animatronic dragon head would be a good addition.

Apart from that though I really like the Studio Tram Tour :lol:

I agree the tour is starting to look a bit dated now. The canyon part is great but I always thought it would have been better as a climax to the tour rather than pretty much at the start. Everything else on the tour has a hard time keeping up with that.

They should use some of the great movies they've made for the last few years - I mean they must have props from the movies stored away in warehouses around the world which aren't being used anymore ???

Any POTC stuff would be cool and very popular with most visitors. Another themed set with
action etc like the canyon would be great but it all costs money I guess.

Mr_B

Have to admit these are all pretty dull anywhere anytime.. Universal California(even with its new war of the worlds and wisteria lane sections), MGM Florida.. I think since the  advent of DVD and so much multimedia behind the scenes stuff the whole concept is dated and wrong.

Whats needed is more thematic ride elements such as catastrophe canyon but how you can justify the expense when whats needed are more rides and shows is the question.

I would be tempted to leave it be and spend the money elsewhere.

Quote from: "ightenhill"Have to admit these are all pretty dull anywhere anytime.. Universal California(even with its new war of the worlds and wisteria lane sections), MGM Florida.. I think since the  advent of DVD and so much multimedia behind the scenes stuff the whole concept is dated and wrong.

Whats needed is more thematic ride elements such as catastrophe canyon but how you can justify the expense when whats needed are more rides and shows is the question.

I would be tempted to leave it be and spend the money elsewhere.

I have to agree, i must say out of all of them i liked the California one the best but that was 1994 when i visited as Kong and a view other attractions later made for Florida were there.

 Would anyone complain if they ripped it up and put 4 or 5 attractions in it's place, only a few die hards maybe.

A lot of people really like this attraction, I see it in the same vein as the Molly Brown/Mark Twain boat ride in Frontierland: nice and relaxing with pleasant music and interesting things to look at (not always those created for the attraction itself). Catastrophe Canyon is great, as is Jeremy Irons' narrative.

The other thing about the tram tour is how it blocks off the space for future expansion of the park. If things are looking good enough for this to be considered [-o< then surely the route of the tram will have to be drastically altered.

Yup, that's always my main bug with the attraction. There is SO much space behind there and between the other cast areas, but even a bridge or underpass could solve that.

The other issue that I have is that he amount of times that I have taken friends or family on-the English commentary is so quiet, they may as well turn it off, which is a shame as it's so good.

Also and finally, what is the misleading look into the 'costume dept' for the films..ie-cast costumes for the two parks.  :roll:

I don't think that bridges or underpasses would work too well, unless they are done very well. These just put people off for some reason; although personally I quite like them. Better to do away with Reign of Fire (although it certainly looks like London, most people don't know the film) and put another 'big' set on the car park immediately behind the STT loading area.  Guests could then walk over where Reign of Fire is/was to a new land. :idea:

There are new Indiana Jones and Narnia films coming out this year so there is no excuse for lack of ideas :wink:

Surely a POTC scene in the tram tour would be an attraction ,based on a film,based on another attraction !! Why not go to Adventureland and ride POTC complete with pirate ships firing cannons over your heads ,isn't that what you wanted !! lol !!

:pluto: There was big queues for this ride but personly I think it is a bit boring .

Quote from: "Jayna62"I think it is a bit boring .

I have to agree with you there.

It's a bit of a novelty, and the explosion of the cliff-side set is entertaining. However, the rest wasn't of too much interest to me.

The video they were playing (at least when I went) was also unbelievably amateurish and had me cringing at times - it was terrible :(

Quote from: "BlackWolf"It's a bit of a novelty, and the explosion of the cliff-side set is entertaining. However, the rest wasn't of too much interest to me.:(

I agree, the explosion has to be the best part.  It needs some more shock surprises as you go round similar to this one.

i was talking to my mum about this today

its something you have to go on once, but not something you should do twice, its good, just a long queue for a long ride, takes up alot of time

The last time i came to the resort was in 2005, have they changed anything with the tram tour since? or is it as disappointing as ever?

Whooo! going in a month!!!! :D/

Quote from: "davidrsykes"The last time i came to the resort was in 2005, have they changed anything with the tram tour since? or is it as disappointing as ever?

Whooo! going in a month!!!! :D/

same question ... my last visit was in the 2005

now i think i find changes on the studio tram tour?

bye

If there would have been changes made, it would have been posted in this topic.  :)

Surely it can only be a matter of time before some needed changes are made to this attraction. Personally I am not a fan of this attraction and would rather the WDS closed this attraction down. Its become dated and as the Studios isn't a real working Studio like Universal Studios Hollywood it kind of becomes rather pointless. I would much rather WDS concentrated on building and investing in attractions that will bring in the crowds like Tower of Terror and Crush.

Quote from: "Malin"Surely it can only be a matter of time before some needed changes are made to this attraction. Personally I am not a fan of this attraction and would rather the WDS closed this attraction down. Its become dated and as the Studios isn't a real working Studio like Universal Studios Hollywood it kind of becomes rather pointless. I would much rather WDS concentrated on building and investing in attractions that will bring in the crowds like Tower of Terror and Crush.

...or it could be used as a showcase for recreated (action) scenes from some of Disney's movie franchises that don't lend themselves to fully realized rides due to story constraints. "Narnia" comes to mind... and then there are some great movie franchise opportunities that Disney is working on right now... ("Prince of Persia", "John Carter of Mars", "Lone Ranger", maybe another "Tron"...)

Just dreaming a bit...

I do think there should be more items that are recognisable to young children, so Narnia would be perfect.  I took my kids on and they didn't know what anything was.  Even say a Sally or Ramone.

Quote from: "pjulie75"I do think there should be more items that are recognisable to young children, so Narnia would be perfect.  I took my kids on and they didn't know what anything was.  Even say a Sally or Ramone.

This is true sets like Dinotopia and Reign on Fire were mild hits back in 2002-2003 and have since long been forgotten about. I havn't been able to work out why more sets and props havn't been sent over to Paris from Disney's latest hit movies and tv shows. I can apreciate some people may enjoy this attraction, especially young kids who get a thrill out of the Catastrophe Canyon scene, but for me it doesn't add anything to the WDS experience, and is actually now days rather boring.

Quote from: "experiment627"...or it could be used as a showcase for recreated (action) scenes from some of Disney's movie franchises that don't lend themselves to fully realized rides due to story constraints. "Narnia" comes to mind... and then there are some great movie franchise opportunities that Disney is working on right now... ("Prince of Persia", "John Carter of Mars", "Lone Ranger", maybe another "Tron"...)

Just dreaming a bit...

Absolutely!! It shouldn't really be that much of a dream though, a few fake film sets can't cost that much?

For Narnia all they need is a lamppost and some kind of fake snow to get people excited...  It'd be a hell of a lot better than the depressing Dinotopia doors. Reign of Fire could also do with a different storyline. No one remembers the film and a lot of people probably miss Irons say "dragons", so to them it might just seem like a rather tasteless recreation of a terrorist attack. The sets should have a bit more of a fantasy element about them to avoid clashing with real world events like that.

The original MGM Studios Europe plans also had a big water tank scene like the pearl harbor pre-show in Florida. It might make quite a good scene to set up a bluescreen set showing how they filmed the Kraken, etc. Now that's dreaming... :wink:

It used to be expected that STT would get a good update around 2008/09... seems to have been forgotten now, worryingly.

maybe there waiting until the tram tour station needs to be moved and then they reopen stt with some major improvements  :D/

so what was being done to it 10- 14th march while it was shut?  we did see something stuck in the props from nemo that wasnt there in june matthew pointed it out to me and he was right it wasnt there the last time i went on it.

While reading the article on dlrptoday.com, about the new waiting time sign of the Studio Tram Tour, a question came into my mind:

When we last visited in September 2007, there was no language choice - instead of a few years ago when you could choose between the English/French, German/Dutch or Italian/Spanish queue, I guess!

Is there only the French/English Tram Tour today? Or does that depend on how many people are visiting?

Quote from: "Nala_84"Is there only the French/English Tram Tour today? Or does that depend on how many people are visiting?

Hey Nala! As far as I know they scrapped the German/Dutch and Spanish/Italian trams a few years ago. Only the French/English spiel is used nowadays. Although it might be a bit easier to manage the queue now, I still think its a loss. It felt more tailor made for the specific audiences. I think they should bring the other languages back, especially since Kristof mentioned that the Spanish crowds seem to complain that there isn't enough to do in their language (shows etc.)

On a different note; I like the fact that they keep updating the Studios. The sign fits the traffic theme aswell, well done!

By the way, member Soundtracker on MiceChat claims:

QuoteOh, one last point - we will also be seeing some minor changes to Studio Tram Tour, but I'm not allowed to tell you what they are yet!

On the other hand, in the very same post he claims to know more about the new 3 temporary attractions at the Studios, while Kristof claims that there won't be any temporary attractions. In other words, maybe Soundtracker's information is just a rumour after all.

I thought they were adding a jaws thing to studio tram tours. x

Quote from: "Katie-Sparrow"I thought they were adding a jaws thing to studio tram tours. x

 :lol:  Jaws is from Universal Studios...
if you're reffering to an interactive set (similar to Catastrophe Canyon or Reign of Fire), than yes, there are some ideas, but that's not for any time soon!  

Quote from: "Maarten"On the other hand, in the very same post he claims to know more about the new 3 temporary attractions at the Studios, while Kristof claims that there won't be any temporary attractions. In other words, maybe Soundtracker's information is just a rumour after all.

There will be indeed some very minor changes, but don't get your hopes high up.  The ride itself won't change much (yet).

Thank you Maarten, that's bad news indeed :(!

I don't really understand whether this was a problem for them to have 3 different queues? I liked especially the aspect of having 6 languages to choose from in one ride, that's what I call a "EURO" Disneyland Resort ;)!

It's because of the capacity.  Often you had a an hour wait for the English/French version, while the seats in the back where empty.

I doubt this could happen now because it'd be very expensive to retro-fit all the trams, but maybe they should have basically installed a HISTA/AODA system into the trams, with five headphones per row and a button to change the language? The screens could just show the general shots (dinotopia, how catastrophe canyon works), with no presenters, instead.

The commentary itself is awful and I think is a large part of what makes the ride so boring now. It doesn't really tell you much and seems to completely gloss over a lot of things. "These planes are stored here on the lot ready to be drafted into service for a future film"... yeah right. The whole commentary is just a load of "bull" from start to finish.

It seriously needs a new host. Someone who instantly says "Disney", won't get old and will be very lively. Julie? :lol:

I think the problem is also that half the time you can't even see the screen, if you're sitting towards the back, and there's a bit of sun, it's just impossible to see the screen - so I end up ignoring the commentary completely (I also know it by heart)

I like this ride (well, I love the Canyon, the rest is pretty boring), maybe a more lively commentary would help. What about an animated character?

QuoteI like this ride (well, I love the Canyon, the rest is pretty boring), maybe a more lively commentary would help. What about an animated character?

Hehe I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday... Imagine they could have it more interactive, give different kind of reactions each time you visit.  Can't be that hard for Imagineering...

Hi everyone, I was just reading some of the comments about the Studio Tram tour and people have some great ideas.
My mum loves this ride, well the Catasrophe Canyon bit. But we both agree the rest of it is pretty boring and I hate to say that about anything in Disneyland as I love the place so much. When they are showing Props I feel like i am looking at garden Furniture and sculptures, I could fall asleep. I have never heard if Dinotopia as a film but the fact the set doesn't do anything makes it boring too. The reign of Fire set looks great, I love the train being de-railed but as someone else said I expected more than just a flame of fire from it. I thought the Narnia film costumes were great the first time I seen them two years ago but it would be nice if they changed them a little even one a year. Again the cars I find boring. It's just like looking at things that they would have had sitting in storage. The only good part of the ride for me and my mum is Castrophe Canyon which i think is Brilliant.

I noticed the rain effect wasn't working for Catasrophe Canyon when i was there at the start of july, Also some of the talking parts where cut out such as in the reign of fire, they didn't say the part about "london as you've never seen it before Scorched by dragons. There was small things edited out. I am not sure why.

I hope they manage to do something to make it a more exciting ride someday.

Aveen xxx

QuoteI noticed the rain effect wasn't working for Catasrophe Canyon when i was there at the start of july, Also some of the talking parts where cut out such as in the reign of fire, they didn't say the part about "london as you've never seen it before Scorched by dragons. There was small things edited out. I am not sure why.

That's actually very interesting!!!  I wonder why!  :-k

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QuoteI noticed the rain effect wasn't working for Catasrophe Canyon when i was there at the start of july, Also some of the talking parts where cut out such as in the reign of fire, they didn't say the part about "london as you've never seen it before Scorched by dragons. There was small things edited out. I am not sure why.

That's actually very interesting!!!  I wonder why!  :-k

I hate to spoil the excitement, but it's definitely still there. Maybe the CM just forgot to press the button or something?

Quote from: "never2old"I like this ride (well, I love the Canyon, the rest is pretty boring), maybe a more lively commentary would help. What about an animated character?

That is such a great idea... The Mushu film at AODA hasn't really aged at all, then you see the Jeremy Irons commentary... errk. Do you think they'd allow an animated character to narrate it, or would WDI really want to keep STT in the "real world" of humans and Hollywood?

Quote from: "Anthony"I hate to spoil the excitement, but it's definitely still there. Maybe the CM just forgot to press the button or something?

Aw it's weird maybe they didn't bother with the rain effect as it was raining hehe! :P

I was hoping that maybe they were working on things, when I noticed parts of things cut out, it really needs some attention. I do love when you are queuing for the Studio Tram Tour that you can now hear the screams from the Tower of Terror :shock:  :D

Aveen xoxox

QuoteI hate to spoil the excitement, but it's definitely still there. Maybe the CM just forgot to press the button or something?

The different parts of the video are triggered by sensors in the ground.  Someone pointed me out last time I was there.  :)

That'd be great ideas, Ant and never2old... I guess that wouldn't be too difficult to create such new videos for the screens?

But right, I also don't really listen to them anymore :lol: But for people who have never been on the Studio Tram Tour it'd be great if they created headphones or something like that in different languages, so everybody can understand the infos...

I really like the idea of a disney character to be the moderator. I guess especially children would like it. But I understand that it might not fit into the real Holywood theme.
Also I like the idea with the headphones like in HISTA.
I like the Studio Tram Tour and when I'm riding it it always seems as if people would like it too. Of course, some parts might be boring. But on the other side it's  a really relaxing and comfortable ride. To be honest I can't understand why it's so unpopular. Of course it's not the best ride in DLRP but also not the worst.

hey folks,
hope i post it now in the right topic!!

i read today on WDSFANS that it is official the tram rout will be rerouted...

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Maybe the change in route will also get something new added to the tram tour? We can only hope!

After all the cast members get soooo bored of the tour they tend to fall asleep! ;)

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This was taken in December whilst we were waiting for the tour to start, the other tram was heading to Reign of Fire, they were great tho, when they saw me taking pictures they gave me a wave :)

The drivers have such a boring job on the tram tour, they do very little and have no guest interaction to give them a bit of variety.

The Tram tour is so flat these days, there is nothing pulling me towards the ride anymore, I can't stand hearing Jeremy Irons talking about Dinotopia much more.

I think a live host would add some variety to it (with up-to-date jokes and more modern spiels) but the old language barrier would make an apperance again.

I like the idea of a live host, maybe set up with regular slots like Stitch Live with one English tram and one French tram, but it probably wouldn't solve the attraction.

Actually if anything it'd make it worse -- they'd have nothing to talk about! At least the current video screens can fill the gaps with pointless movie clips (that just make the real-life tour look even more depressing) and hilarious jokes.

I still don't understand why DLRP/WDI/whoever didn't try to get any of the Pirates/National Treasure/Narnia/Enchanted props. It's just crazy how dull this attraction is considering their recent catalogue.

I agree with you Anthony I started several years ago going on the tram tour within a year I was totally bored of it even though it does have some good bits there are so many other areas in the tour that let it down even the upkeep of the trams is questionable with big cracks forming in the Fiberglass seats, Half the letters missing of the side of most trams and on some weekends there are only 2 trams running creating unaceptable queue lengths because of out of service trams break downs etc.

Last time I went on the Tram, in October, the CM onboard was doing his own commentary, between the clips. He was really funny!! He was speaking French, so not sure how many people understood him, but my brother and I had a great time. Not sure how official his commentary was (since it mostly involved mocking the video one or saying some ride bits were very boring), but he really livened it up!

Quote from: "never2old"Last time I went on the Tram, in October, the CM onboard was doing his own commentary, between the clips. He was really funny!! He was speaking French, so not sure how many people understood him, but my brother and I had a great time. Not sure how official his commentary was (since it mostly involved mocking the video one or saying some ride bits were very boring), but he really livened it up!

I think it'd be great to see some live commentary on the STT, it would add something a little nit more special to the ride, a bit like the skippers on the Jungle Cruise in the American parks. However I do feel that they need to implement it if or when they completely re-do the ride, at which point they would really need to add to it and make it a lot more exciting, interesting and re-rideable... :)

A blue bird told me that the Tram Tour road should be finished around May 2009.  :)

Quote from: "Kristof"A blue bird told me that the Tram Tour road should be finished around May 2009.  :)

Hey, the blue bird's back :mrgreen:  :P

Quote from: "Kristof"A blue bird told me that the Tram Tour road should be finished around May 2009.  :)

ooo sounds good! i just wana see what the re-route is going to be like :d

I'm guessing the new route will be all the way round for the nearest... (which it should have been in the first place) ;)

I was there last week and they've got alot of construction taking place on the ride. Big boards are up so you cant see anything and some props and tour tram video bits were missing.

I have to say it is one boring ride now!!

ST

just wait till the new work is finished then it will be good again or better! :)

Does anyone know where the road will be re routed to? Can anyone put it on a map?

It will take over the left corner, so it's just making a bend.

so not much of a change then lol

From WDSfans:

Quote from: "WDSfans"Several members on Disney Central Plaza forum report that the Studio Tram Tour is using its new road as off Friday 13 March. The new route goes through the forest and takes the trams by the Dinotopia set and Catastrophe Canyon, but skips the Pearl Harbour set and the Costuming Building.

Currently, there are no props along the new road in the forest.

I didn't realise it would be finished this quickly! I've got a horrible feeling though that the new route will look really rushed - it only seems like a few weeks ago that the area just a pile of dirt.

Hopefully we'll see some pictures or videos soon. :)

Although I'm over the moon to hear that there is a lot of progress going on, I can't help but get the feeling that there isn't going to be a lot to see on the STT, especially now they've taken Pearl Harbour and the Costuming dept out of the line up. I suppose it'll provide great views when construction is in full swing, but until then...

Anyone know if they are planning to move some of the stuff, or bring in some new props soon to make up for this? And I assume that the on ride videos have been edited too? :wink:

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Although I'm over the moon to hear that there is a lot of progress going on, I can't help but get the feeling that there isn't going to be a lot to see on the STT, especially now they've taken Pearl Harbour and the Costuming dept out of the line up. I suppose it'll provide great views when construction is in full swing, but until then...

Oh I have the same feeling. I liked to take a look inside the costume department. Makes it much more studio like.  :roll:

Wow, so soon?! I wasn't sure if I should believe the Friday 13th rumours.

The new route in terms of new road probably won't be much different at all, just taking a very sharp left after the station then another sharp right around the TSPL area to join up just where the boneyard used to end.

Losing the Costuming and Pearl Harbour isn't much of a loss to me, I never liked how "backstage theme park" rather than "backstage movie studio" that area felt, with the view of the back of Crush and all the service vehicles parked around. What is a real shame is that they've opened up this route without anything along it... Do Euro Disney SCA not know what bad reviews this ride gets? The entrance is so prominent within the park, too...

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"I can't help but get the feeling that there isn't going to be a lot to see on the STT, especially now they've taken Pearl Harbour and the Costuming dept out of the line up.

There isn't. There's so little, they actually took us around Catastrophe Canyon twice to pad out the time.

Quote from: "Agent Lex"

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"I can't help but get the feeling that there isn't going to be a lot to see on the STT, especially now they've taken Pearl Harbour and the Costuming dept out of the line up.

There isn't. There's so little, they actually took us around Catastrophe Canyon twice to pad out the time.

To be honest, that sounds like an improvement!  :lol:  Catastrophe Canyon is the only reason I go on STT!

here is the first pic from the new route of the tram tour...
i found it on micechat.

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wow that realy is a sharp left hand turn after the loading bay

Very sharp, and for this whole section between the station and Catastrophe Canyon the trams are running in parallel right next to each other. Just got a bit more challenging for the drivers...

Though it's interesting that this is the first photo we've seen of the new route - and it seems to be taken from the path behind ToT. So, despite this very major change for WDS and the chance to see a whole new route, still no fan wants to ride the damn thing.

I was on SST on saturday and the reign of fire set wasn't working we just drove through it no fire no nothing. Anyone know why?

Broken?  Never seen the Reign of Fire set without the dragon fire myself, sounds though like a dull climax to a now slightly boring attraction :P

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I saw it without the fire during my visit in 2007.

We went through the set as usual, the growling FX started and then.... nothing.

Good Times!

maybe they ran out of fire!

I was ready to get a good picture and all  :lol:

you should of got one with out the fire it would of been one of a kind  :D/

Quote from: "Agent Lex"

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"I can't help but get the feeling that there isn't going to be a lot to see on the STT, especially now they've taken Pearl Harbour and the Costuming dept out of the line up.

There isn't. There's so little, they actually took us around Catastrophe Canyon twice to pad out the time.

My Mum would be delighted to go around Catastrophe Canyon twice, she loves that part of the ride, in fact I would say it's her favourite attraction, which ahs always annoyed me as I find the rest of the ride so boring :(  Hate to say it but I think we all agree!

Thats the only reason i go on STT for Catastrophe Canyon, the others sections of the ride bore me to death! STT REALLY NEEDS A MAKEOVER!

I didn't bother going on STT last year, I wasn't even bothered about Catastrophe Canyon. I find the whole "experience" a bit dull now. If they improve it, or add a new set then I might consider going on it again.

Has anyone here been on Snow White ride with no animatronics working just sound?
I have and it's scary for some reason :?  :shock:

Yes ive been in Snow white with just the sound, i got freaked out too, i dunno why though cos i beenon it 100s of times :P

Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"Has anyone here been on Snow White ride with no animatronics working just sound?
I have and it's scary for some reason :?  :shock:

That's not really related to Studio Tram Tour...  :wink:

i refuse yo go on studio tram tour until its made better :P
Unless its really cold and then id just go on to get warm with the Reign of Fire Set or Catastrophe Canyon

Quote from: "djdisney"i refuse yo go on studio tram tour until its made better :P
Unless its really cold and then id just go on to get warm with the Reign of Fire Set or Catastrophe Canyon

off-topic i know but....

If you want to get warmed up go on Armageddon  :roll:

MY AMAZING STT IDEA! (At least I think so) :D/

Well hopefully they're going to push back STT to make the Hollywood Boulevard bigger and I heard a rumour about creating a lake behind it which would be perfect for a new show like a new version of Fantasmic! The STT could go around the lake in a complete circuit rather than going back on itself because it's annoying going back past the station.

The new station has much better theming and is themed around Hollywood, as it's the end of the Hollywood Boulevard. You leave the station and go past the cars then onto the Reign Of Fire set, which is improved with more pyrotechnics. Also no one can remember the film so wouldn't it be better just to ignore the fact that it's from the film and just say something like 'this is how we create a dragon attack on a modern day city'.

Then you continue into a Pirates of the Caribbean set and you're in the middle of two battling ships  and there's bombs going off and lots of rain and the pirates music. You pass through that then you go underground past a tank of water with a kind of remote control Kraken thing and they explain how it was created.

You then go back up above ground and continue on into some sort of Aztec Temple and inside is a National Treasure set. I haven't really thought what kind yet but it will be an indoor thing. You pass the set and go back out of the Aztec Temple.

Then you continue onto an interactive Journey to the Center of the Earth set. Don't know what though because tbh i haven't seen the film but I'm told it's good and have heard rumours about this set.

After passing that set you go onto catastrophe canyon which is the same as before but you enter from the opposite direction you do at the moment. Then you head back to the station and on the way pass the mini Pearl Harbour set and the Costumes mini set. Then you arrive back at the station, completing the circuit.

Phew! Glad I got that off my chest. It'll probably cost loads of money but at least it would make it a star attraction :!:  :!:

Thats a really good idea
but sadly i think money would be an issue  :(

I love it though and a POTC scence would make me very happy :D

I would go on Tram tour every time I'll be there when they do that!!
Awesome ideas!!

just for now, I tried to make something in photoshop... It would be nice if it would be something like this ;)
[attachment=0:12jg11kb]WDS remake kenny.jpg[/attachment:12jg11kb]
The people can enter the "Fantasmic" show by walking up over the roof of the Costumes mini set, so that they don't have to cross the tram tour.

What do you think? haha (this was just for fun)

Please post all your blue sky ideas in the special Imagineering forum (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=14)!

The park boards are just for the less expensive real world discussions.

here is a video of the new route...

//http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x98dxj_studio-tram-tour-travaux-toy-story_fun

Quote from: "lil-shawn"here is a video of the new route...

//http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x98dxj_studio-tram-tour-travaux-toy-story_fun

nice!! toy story playland should be quite large I see... thx for posting

DLRPMagic.com has just published its regular "Closures & Refurbishments" list and it looks like STT is a getting a MAJOR overhaul.

The ride will be closed from 11th to 22nd of May - 11 days in total!

This may just mean a total overhaul of the current effects (repairing damaged parts of the Canyon etc) or something even more major... time will tell!

Has anyone been on Studio Tram Tour since the May closure?

If so, does Catastrophe Canyon happen to look any less blackened?

Been on it on friday. What do you mean with blackened?

Well the canyon should be ochre and the truck mostly red, but in April it was almost completely black, either from dirt or just losing its colour. It looked awful.

Sadly the canyon was in a pretty poor state 2 weeks ago. The Truck was rusty, have the effects did not work, the rocks are blackened - caused by the carbon mynoxide of the flames and mold from the water. And this was after a 2 week refurb.

Could this means eventual history? I hope not. But the overall tour was not in a good state with the new route and poorly edited video.

Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Sadly the canyon was in a pretty poor state 2 weeks ago. The Truck was rusty, have the effects did not work, the rocks are blackened - caused by the carbon mynoxide of the flames and mold from the water. And this was after a 2 week refurb.

Could this means eventual history? I hope not. But the overall tour was not in a good state with the new route and poorly edited video.

I think actually there is a good chance the STT might be gone over the next few years, as Disney's Hollywood Studios also has it cheduled for permanent closure i think, the ride's position is just too irritating for expansions because you have re-route it all the time, wich in WDW isn't the case cause it's located on the very side of the park, whilst WDS has it in the middle of the area.

WDS has nothing to do with Disneys Hollywood Studios in Florida and they are contemplating removing the tram tour to extend Pixar place out of nasesity rather than because it is a pale imitation on what it used to be.  In florida the land was all marsh land and when they wanted to build the water had to be channeled away from it to facilitate construction.   The only way they can enlarge the park out their is rearange facilities and infrastructure at the rear of the park or remove the Car Park and relocate at the front of the park.  Coming back to our tram tour this may be one of the best bits of News for our Tram Tour as a lot of there still existing items of intrest including their water tank set could easily be relocated to paris as well as some extra spare Trams and trailors.

I'd be very surprised if it was closed for good in Paris. It has an absolutely huge capacity and does a good, cheap job of temporarily "closing in" the park at the back. If they removed it now, there'd need to a pretty substantial raft of new buildings/attractions built.

It is an awkward one though, perhaps the least popular ride at the resort, but perhaps also not something that could ever be improved Indy Backwards/Mission 2-style with the pay-off of a big ad campaign. Unless they added something really spectacular and equal to Catastrophe Canyon, or perhaps tying into a major Disney franchise (prince of persia..? please??!).

But still, what they could spend on a big setpiece scene could be spent on an extra, standalone attraction elsewhere. It'd have to be done out of actual Walt Disney-esque will to invest in/improve the guest experience.

As the years go on the Tram Tour will constantly need pushing further backwards.
Thats not too bad of a thing though, its only a bit of tarmac and the props can be easily relocated.

If Catastrophe Canyon got replaced I would be pretty happy, as long as it got replaced by something new and unique.
But its a decent distance away from land which is going to be expanded in the next few years.

There is still a lot of expansion which will need to take place before the Tram Tour gets removed completely.

when the Canyon looks good and operates properly, I see it as a highlight of a DLP visit. What I hate is only running 2 trams making it a 60 min wait when it could be sooo much less.

Quote from: "phantom247"WDS has nothing to do with Disneys Hollywood Studios in Florida and they are contemplating removing the tram tour to extend Pixar place out of nasesity rather than because it is a pale imitation on what it used to be.  In florida the land was all marsh land and when they wanted to build the water had to be channeled away from it to facilitate construction.   The only way they can enlarge the park out their is rearange facilities and infrastructure at the rear of the park or remove the Car Park and relocate at the front of the park.  Coming back to our tram tour this may be one of the best bits of News for our Tram Tour as a lot of there still existing items of intrest including their water tank set could easily be relocated to paris as well as some extra spare Trams and trailors.

Of course they have nothing to do with each other, but the reason the WDS and DHS tram tours work less than for example the Universal Studio tour is because they're not really studio tours, and try to be a working studio, instead of having the actual studio like in Universal, so DLP might have to consider some day, pay every time you need to restructure one ride till it gets crammed and in the way or replace in favor of expansion, though maybe not till 2014 or something i guess, but i don't see the STT holding on to the WDS for a lot of years since it's just going outdated, and more than you can just fix with one updated set or something, but that's just from my point of view. But you have to admit, for future expansions and stuff, the ride was very poorly placed.

Yes, it was still black, but I would have never recoginzed it if you hadn't mentioned it here.
And for the 60 min wait. The whole last week I was there, waiting time was never longer the 15min with at least 4 trams operating.

QuoteBut you have to admit, for future expansions and stuff, the ride was very poorly placed.

The Tram Tour road is designed to have it easily altered by just adding new roads and closing others, at least that's according to the WDS master plan.

Quote from: "Reiana"Yes, it was still black, but I would have never recoginzed it if you hadn't mentioned it here.
And for the 60 min wait. The whole last week I was there, waiting time was never longer the 15min with at least 4 trams operating.

That's much better, see what a big difference those trams can make?

The only problem with running more trams at the moment is that they end up having to wait around to pass each other. The new route between the station and Dinotopia doesn't seem wide enough for two to pass, I wonder if that'll change when the construction walls go?

They slow down a bit at the dinosaur props, not the Dionotopia set and pass each other very slowly.
The only short stop was on the retour route where the car park of the old movie cars is. But even this stop wasn't longer then one or two minutes.
Tram Tour is a bit boring at the moment, because of the very loooooooong blue fence, but there where no major problems in operation.

I like the tram tour, but it needs more to it. Aside Catastrophe Canyon it's basically driving past some random non descript props from productions no one really knows of. They need some more bigger props, sets, special effects, I dunno just a bit more to it.

Now this is quite interesting. From the Disneyland Paris Website:

QuoteRehabs and Closures
Studio Tram Tour
Closed in March 2010
Closed in April 2010

Could this be the sign of some improvements coming soon, or will just be for Toy Story Playland Construction? Even if it is for the latter, they might just as well make some changes at the same time because let's face it, STT isn't exactly great is it?! :roll:

From what I've seen it's mostly for Toy Story Playland and a rehab of Reign of Fire and Catastrophe Canyon.  Nothing seems to indicate they're adding props or things like that.

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Now this is quite interesting. From the Disneyland Paris Website:

QuoteRehabs and Closures
Studio Tram Tour
Closed in March 2010
Closed in April 2010

Could this be the sign of some improvements coming soon, or will just be for Toy Story Playland Construction? Even if it is for the latter, they might just as well make some changes at the same time because let's face it, STT isn't exactly great is it?! :roll:

Fingers crossed - I am not hoping for new stuff, but perhaps making the "new" route a bit better and more exciting by moving some stuff around...

Just uploaded this to Twitter and WDSfans.  I've been notified the Tram Tour will close for 3 months, from 1th March 'till 30 May 2010...

very intresting since it was originaly going to be 1st - 15th! they must be doing some kind of work on it for it to be closed that long! wonder what!!

hopefully they will use this time to fix catastrophe canyon and make it look as good as it should  [-o<  [-o<  [-o<

WOW ! 3 Months ! I cannot say anything more  :lol:

Perhaps this is when the parts for RC Racer and perhaps Toy Soldiers will be arriving. A crane will be need for that, right? Parking it on the STT route would be easy, if it can support the weight.

Though it's a bit disappointing we'll probably not get anything new (not even a retheme of Dinotopia to Prince of Persia? Come on!) a refurb of Catastrophe Canyon is fantastic news. Hopefully the trams themselves will also get some work done, so they can stop running them half empty where the doors have broken...

i'll keep my fingers crossed that it might be for improvements on the studio tram tour anyway...it needs it so badly!!

of the whole thing i think castastrophe canyon needs the least work as the rest of the ride is awful!!(IMO)

Quote from: "Anthony"Perhaps this is when the parts for RC Racer and perhaps Toy Soldiers will be arriving. A crane will be need for that, right? Parking it on the STT route would be easy, if it can support the weight.

Though it's a bit disappointing we'll probably not get anything new (not even a retheme of Dinotopia to Prince of Persia? Come on!) a refurb of Catastrophe Canyon is fantastic news. Hopefully the trams themselves will also get some work done, so they can stop running them half empty where the doors have broken...

That would be the logical thing to do, However we have learnt in the past that DLP dont really like killing 2 birds with 1 stone...

the canyon has lost all its colour and the lorry looks like its been burnt a few too many times - not good, i hope they will update it too

It must be hard for the Paris park to get any-thing good from the Disneyfilms, since the WDW seem to always get them first. Id love to see some POTC stuff, or some Alice In Wonderland stuff, Id even settle for some Narnia, just some new stuff please!

What do people think about the Dragons in London set? Its a nice set, shame its from a film no-ones heard of. I'd be nice for a retheme.

Heres an idea I had for it on the Imagineering forum (scroll down a bit :P)
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8605 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8605)

haha yeah, Reign of fire isn't the best known film, However. I love that scene still, Same with the canyon, Good scene but lacking the magic.

Surely logic would suggest that they're going to improve it, lets face it, it needs improving, especially now with the re-routing

Catastrophe Canyon hasn't actually been tarted up since it new, has it? So it is long over due.

They also need to add more things to the Reign of Fire scene. Though in saying that, I get the feeling that scene could well be changed. There's nothing stopping them changing it to a differen't film, a well known disaster film, say Armageddon, of Indepence Day etc. Just a thought, thats all...

It would be nice if they had a few spare trams that they could customise (ala Red Trams from DCA) and drive around the park, in a WDS-style-DLP-railroad manner.

I think if Catastrophe Canyon was in a dark room with loud lightning effects plus fire and water it would be awesome!

Both these ideas belong in Home Imagineering (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=14). Thanks. :wink:

But talking of improving the tour, the "wit" of Jeremy Irons' script and his dry presentation doesn't help the dull-athon of trundling past all those construction walls and empty props boneyards. I wonder who they'll get when the video finally needs to be updated?

Someone like Orlando Bloom would do the job for the english speakers.

Although the Studio Tram Tour really needs some more props, it is so much better than the one in WDW. I'm not sure if the Tram Tour is still open at DHS. The highlight of the tour is Catastrophe Canyon and that's the only reason why I still want to do this attraction.

Quote from: "Anthony"But talking of improving the tour, the "wit" of Jeremy Irons' script and his dry presentation doesn't help the dull-athon of trundling past all those construction walls and empty props boneyards. I wonder who they'll get when the video finally needs to be updated?

Jeremy is fantastic. He makes the ride - he can never be replaced!

"If you see a dragon, slay it for me."

A few years ago there were also trains with other languages than English and French. Does someone know who did the German presentation?

I think it was Nastassja Kinski

Yep, you can still see the old hosts saying goodbye at the end: http://www.dlrpmagic.com/video/attracti ... the-magic/ (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/video/attractions/studio-tram-tour-behind-the-magic/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)

Italian - Isabella Rossellini
German - Natassja Kinski
Spanish - Inés Sastre
Dutch - Famke Janssen

Adam, it seems you're not alone: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68739708035 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68739708035%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)

Thanks for the answers!!

"You never know how you might run into in the Studios Park" - Jeremy Irons
When I heard him say that the first time I went on this ride I actually spent the rest of the day on the look out for celebrities! :lol:
I know this sounds stupid but when you are in the reign of fire set there is a fake Underground station which seems to actually go down steps but you can't see past that. Does anyone know if you can actually go down the steps and what happens after that? I'm expecting a "dead end" response or nothing because its probably such a stupid question but you never will find out until you ask it here? :lol:

Quote from: "Anthony"Adam, it seems you're not alone: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68739708035 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68739708035%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)

Great - disappointed there are only 4 members though!

Hi All,

I gotta admit as much as I really love the studio tour and always ride it - if they can't add new value ie newer themes the route is so bad. They have the height of excitement really early on ie the canyon and then it goes downhill. They know thats all wrong in terms of tension building. They need to re-theme or re-route for the new visitors.

The imagineers must feel so much pain ...

Mr_B

Quote from: "Mr_B"Hi All,

I gotta admit as much as I really love the studio tour and always ride it - if they can't add new value ie newer themes the route is so bad. They have the height of excitement really early on ie the canyon and then it goes downhill. They know thats all wrong in terms of tension building. They need to re-theme or re-route for the new visitors.

The imagineers must feel so much pain ...

Mr_B

Or turn the cars around the other way? Start with Reign of Fire and end with Canyon. Is this possible?

Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"Or turn the cars around the other way? Start with Reign of Fire and end with Canyon. Is this possible?

i thought that but then the doors to load will be on the wrong side wont they :?:

Quote from: "SM:M3"

Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"Or turn the cars around the other way? Start with Reign of Fire and end with Canyon. Is this possible?

i thought that but then the doors to load will be on the wrong side wont they :?:

Yes, I say they would be  :-k I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to make doors on the other side.

I think the cars have the doors on both sides, so it should be possible.

Quote from: "Adam""If you see a dragon, slay it for me."

I was so disappointed the first time I did the tour as I was expecting to see a huge animatronic dragon rise out of the hole in the ground , in the middle of the elaborate set .Instead just a lot of flames , it would be so much better if they added a dragon , it might actually make more sense to the ride !

Since it's a set, I'm sure the dragon is meant to be inserted digitally. :-p

Well the fire is coming up from the ground so there would be no need to add a dragon at all. :P

Yeah they do, but the problem would probably be the narration/videos. Going to opposite direction, the "welcome aboard the behind the magic tour" wouldn't have even finished playing by the time you reached Reign of Fire. The Star Cars commentary would have to be played as you were returning back, and the trams would have to cross paths twice at each end (I don't think they can drive the wrong way into the setpiece scenes).

Quote from: "Anthony"Yeah they do, but the problem would probably be the narration/videos. Going to opposite direction, the "welcome aboard the behind the magic tour" wouldn't have even finished playing by the time you reached Reign of Fire. The Star Cars commentary would have to be played as you were returning back, and the trams would have to cross paths twice at each end (I don't think they can drive the wrong way into the setpiece scenes).

2 ways to solve this problem- edit the video so they will play in the right order

or

Get new narrators

there is probably other ways but this is probably the main two.

Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"Well the fire is coming up from the ground so there would be no need to add a dragon at all. :P

It could just be a gas pipe that has exploded as well , or some one having a rather large barbecue ! :?

Quote from: "Timbo"or some one having a rather large barbecue ! :?

In the middle of a destroyed London?  :?

I kind of got a bit pleased when I found out that the Tram Tour was to close for 2 months, but now I get the feeling its just to spruce up Catastrophe Canyon, as that is in a right state! Its more black than brown now.

IMO, it needs to go, its had its day now. Its even more boring than normal with the new route, and nothing to look at, apart from fences, with the narrators talking about random things that are nowhere in sight.

Yep, all so they can build a real waste of space with TPL Gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I like the tram tour, I think it get's the point across. I will be interested (and hopeful) they do something better with it when the kidsland opens. But the Canyon and Reign of Fire sets are awesome.

Yeah Catastrophe Caynon is awsome, and Reign of Fire LOOKS awsome, but they need to add more to that scene in IMO.

QuoteStudio Tram Tour to be sponsored by Sony Ericsson as off April?
Posted by Kristof on Friday, February 12 2010

A source informed us about a possible new sponsor coming to Disneyland Paris.

Sony Ericsson is being said to become the sponsor of Walt Disney Studios Park's least appreciated attraction, Studio Tram Tour: Behind the Magic.

Anyone know more?

Posted by WDSfans.com (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/wdsfans/news/news.php#newsitemEkyVAZEZVEkjdSXhbq).

now that sounds intresting Anthony

maybe with the new sponsor it will see a new or updated video showing this?

maybe this is why its closed for so long and they will be doing work on it?

A crappy mobile phone company, how random! I'd at least expect it to have been Sony itself!

It previously was sponsored by Orange right? So why another phone company... I don't think Sony Ericson will give DLP that much money to change just a little piece of the attraction...

Sony Ericsson seems a strange thing - they sponsor the tennis at the moment and as a company they havent really been doing too well in the mobile space as their phones have suffered no end of technichal issues which has damaged their brand. But maybe they are looking to rebrand themselves and go for a different market - who knows?????

I have been following this forum for a awhile but had never participated until now.
I just returned from my yearly visit to DLP and, although the trip was really nice (even with the cold weather) I had one really bad experience at Walt Disney Studios, I was traveling with friends, and for some of them was the first time at the studios, so we decided to ride the Tram Tour. We waited for 40 minutes and then nothing was working, no water effect at the Canyon, no fire effect at the Reign of Fire, well the only things that were the way it was suppose to be were the props. Later that day the attraction was still running withe an advice that the water effect was not working due to weather conditions. Why did they kept it open? They really need to do something to this attraction. By the way, this all happened yesterday.
English is not my first language, sorry for any mistakes. :?

Welcome Archimedes, don't worry your English is great :)
Why on earth was it kept open even if possibly the most pivotal effect wasn't working
What a con
This attraction is quite simply becoming pointless, useless, outdated and generally crap :evil:

I wish the long closure it will face now until May will be used to revamp it a little and not only due to infrastructure issues with the new Toy Story Playland...

Quote from: "SM:M3"This attraction is quite simply becoming pointless, useless, outdated and generally crap :evil:

Well said.

They really should just convert Catastrophe Canyon into a walk-through attraction, and demolish/remove everything else to do with the Studio Tram Tour. It serves no purpose. It's more a behind the scenes tour of a theme park, than a behind the scenes tour of a movie studio. You're not seeing anything remotely special, and the few sets/props are from obscure films no-one has seen.

Honestly, how many times are they going to re-route this attraction? It's a total waste of time and money.

QuoteHonestly, how many times are they going to re-route this attraction? It's a total waste of time and money.

I don't think they will remove it in the coming years, simply because they need the capacity of this ride. Especially with so many attractions in this park based on fixed showtimes, they need attractions that keep visitors flowing and the Tram Tour has a large capacity.

They could really enhance it by adding new sets or something interesting alongside the route, but the problem is that this doesn't give them a new attraction and it seems to be difficult to market an old attraction as a new one.

QuoteI don't think they will remove it in the coming years

Well what about this lake area thats planned for the Studio's?

QuoteThey could really enhance it by adding new sets or something interesting alongside the route, but the problem is that this doesn't give them a new attraction and it seems to be difficult to market an old attraction as a new one.

'The all new Studio Tram Tour' - Not a name change, but thats a slogan they could use to plug it. It definitely needs updating one way or another.

QuoteWell what about this lake area thats planned for the Studio's?

Maybe take a look at this map: //http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=48.866197,2.777803&spn=0.007862,0.022724&t=h&z=16

As you can see, both the Catastrophe Canyon and the Reign of Fire sets aren't really intefering with anything. Additionally, there is enough space back there to create a lake even larger than Lake Buena Vista (the lake in front of the hotels).

The only thing that's in the way for an extension of the "boulevard" behind Studio 1 is the tram station and the tarmac behind it, being used as Cast Member parking and backstage storage area.

The tram station always has been a cheap temporary contraption, so it can easily be moved to somewhere else. (More to the left or right for example.). The only "problem" would be the crossing of the boulevard and the tram "track". That can be easily solved by the means of a tunnel or a bridge I suppose.

If money wouldn't be an issue, they could replace those cramped "trams" by some real trams (this is the only non-kiddie-exclusive ride in the whole resort I actually have to bend my legs behing my ears to get in...), driving on real rails (so it would actually be trams), like the Electric Railway in Tokyo DisneySea. Add some more spectacular sets in the woods and an elevated station, right integrated into the prolonged "Holywood Boulevard". Although this would never have been a part of the real Hollywood Boulevard, but whatever, it would look great ;).

Quote'The all new Studio Tram Tour' - Not a name change, but thats a slogan they could use to plug it. It definitely needs updating one way or another.

You know, there are so many other things in this park alone that urgenly need an update:
- The Art of Disney Animation (the Art of Ethernal Boredom)
- Armageddon
- Theming in the Backlot area of the park
My priority would be to get rid of Armageddon first and solve the Tram Tour later, but hey, that's just my opinion.

But let's be realistic, outdated attractions are seldomly removed or improved on-time. The last time they updated an "old" attraction, the result wasn't really much better (yes, I'm pointing at Mission 2). But regarding the Tram Tour, there isn't that much backstory they can ruin, so any upgrade probably will be a welcome one. Heck, even skipping the damn costuming building is considered an upgrade by me :).

One thing I hope is that any upgrades will not be tied to some second-class movie (like Armageddon or Reign of Fire) that gets lost in time. Catastrophe Canyon (if well maintained, it's totally black those days) is something that can almost last forever, as it is not tied to some stupid franchise. Dinotopia, Pearl Harbour and Reign of Fire? Almost nobody cares about those movies anymore, let alone some half-*ssed random props rotting away in the forest.

It has begun...

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More: http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/03/04/pla ... opes-drop/ (http://www.dlrptoday.com/2010/03/04/playland-engulfs-tram-tour-parachute-ropes-drop/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)

It'd be nice if they finally ripped out the Fastpass area and used it for something more useful... even just a covered space and a few benches, there's no shelter here.

They should also refurbish the Hollywood Hills wall. The wall is peeling off and that looks really bad.

I know there been alot saying re when STT will re-open, according to MagiKit the scheduled closure is:
Studio Tram Tour - Behind the Magic: Closed 1 March-29 May 2010

Wow, I didn't realise just how bad the backdrop looks. Hope they get that sorted.

Hope they'll surprise us when the STT re-opens
Three months is a lot of time...

Yeah I hope so too! Such a boring attraction nowadays!

Here's an image I found on the Cafe Mickey forum:
(//http://i40.tinypic.com/2e5uv5e.jpg)

It looks like they're (re)moving some Armageddon stuff...
Hopefully they'll surprise us with something spectacular, but maybe they're just cleaning those things...  :roll:

I think that photo is old, I remember seeing it here quite a long while ago now.

The EXIF reveals the photo was taken on 24 February 2009....

Again, I've said this before.  Nothing new at the Tram Tour, only a refurb of Catastrophe Canyon.

^ well, some people post old photos than...

I doubt they will remove anything but rather re-arrange it to fit in with the new layout.

Which leads me to ask. Will we see a new video tour? Surely if they move stuff the audio will be even more out of sync?

Also. If they are removing stuff. Can i buy it? :P

I hope they did something good with the Star Wars Speeder Bike that was removed from Blockbuster Cafe...

If not... Can I buy it?

News from wdsfans.com The studio tram tour has a new sponsor..

QuoteSony-Ericsson sign now up at Studio Tram Tour
Posted by Kristof on Sunday, April 4 2010

We reported earlier about a possible sponsor-change over at Studio Tram Tour. This is confirmed by @jornjokker on Twitter. He send us a picture of the new sponsor sign over the attraction's entrance (which is still closed at the moment).

However, before we get excited about a new sponsor, it turns out this sponsorship with Sony-Ericsson is actually a new deal brought forward by Orange, who wants to push the sales of their new Sony-Ericcson phone packs.

Here's a picture:
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I wonder how much it costs to associate your company with the worst ride in the park...

Is their sponsorship now just a coincidence, or is it tied into the refurbishment work, anyone know?

Quote from: "Anthony"I wonder how much it costs to associate your company with the worst ride in the park...?

I don't think it's the worst thing in the park  :roll: Playhouse Disney live on stage for me  :lol:
I admit Studio Tram Tour does kind of suck when you have seen the same thing on every one of your visits. It's not as exciting as it was when you first rode it.

Quote from: "Anthony"I wonder how much it costs to associate your company with the worst ride in the park...

Is their sponsorship now just a coincidence, or is it tied into the refurbishment work, anyone know?

Well, i managed to get imgdash.com printed along the side the cars for the small price of £10 a year... Pretty good price if you ask me =D (j/k)

I think Sony Ericsson will probably directly replace Orange, But i do hope the videos are remade.

Does anyone actually care about these kinda adverts? Yes, Orange sponsored the ride... Didn't really convince me to switch to them or anything, I already knew their company existed.

QuoteDoes anyone actually care about these kinda adverts? Yes, Orange sponsored the ride... Didn't really convince me to switch to them or anything, I already knew their company existed.

Lol, me too. But then I feel that about everything. I cant believe people actually buy things because a celeb they like is on their adverts :?

Ive been on the tram tour twice in the past year and have never noticed that its sponsored by anyone :lol:
isit not obvious or isit just me missing things?

i dont think its a bad ride, i like it as much everytime aslong as i leave a gap between how long I go onit :P

the mountain bit is my favourite.. love it when that truck sets on fire and you get a right warm blast ! Hahahah <3

Ahh memories :')

I think it is a great ride. Of course, it could do with a little more and some new bits, but it is always great to go on.

Especially on a cold day - the fire always warms you up!

I loved the Studio Tram Tour when I first rode it - second and third times, it quickly became boring and very predictable.

Is the costuming building gone for good? Or is it just temporarily skipped because of Construction? Also I think the real problem is the fact that they are still plugging it as a real working Studio? Being a DLP geek i wouldn't know but do you think people go there thinking that films are ACTUALLY produced there? I love the video at the end with the names of all the Disney Studios - Burbank, LA, then comes, Orlando and Paris! :) haha, Do people REALLY think they are studios and the Tram Tour is going to take them behind the scenes of a REAL studio.

Having been on DHS version i can say it isn't much better than WDS. The only tram tour worth going on is the one in Universal Studios Hollywood! 45 minutes of pure awe at ACTUAL sets, with a few catastrophe canyon style ad-ons chucked in to make the ride a little unpredictable!

As said earlier I hope when the attraction re-opens we are surprised with a new Video, even if Disney Animation Studios could knock something up like Mickey or Donald Duck being our guide! It would make the thing a LOT more interesting and friendly.

I reckon if they finally get rid of it (it's only a matter of time) then how feasible would it be to make Catastrophe Canyon a walk through? I think it would be Amazing! It would a lot scarier not being in a safe tram! Of course the moving earthquake effect would have to be removed but still Since its out of the way, Why not?

QuoteThe only tram tour worth going on is the one in Universal Studios Hollywood!

You hit the nail on the head. The Studio Tram Tour at the Walt Disney Studios is a total waste of time. Really, it's a dreadful attraction. The only thing they have is the tram. There's no studio and there's no tour. It's just a tram ride through car parks in France.

Catastrophe Canyon is still impressive though. They should just trash everything but Catastrophe Canyon, and run Catastrophe Canyon as its own show, its own attraction.

Quote from: "montaguewarner"Is the costuming building gone for good? Or is it just temporarily skipped because of Construction?

The physical building remains, but you won't see it from STT again. Ratatouille will be built on the old tram route and that area of forest.

I've always enjoyed the Studio Tram Tour, especially Catastrophe Canyon, but without any new additions I think they should close it in the next years. If I'm not mistaken, Disney is already considering to close the Studio Tram Tour at DHS.

In my opinion the WDS version is better than the WDW counterpart. At least you do understand what the guide on the TV screens is saying. At DHS even the native speakers had problems to understand the "real" guide.

Disney should only keep the Studio Tram Tour if they're going to invest in it, and add innovative new technology to it, like Universal are doing.

At Universal, what you see on the Studio Tram Tour is King Kong surrounding you in 3D:

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Whereas at WDS, what you see on the Studio Tram Tour is a fake plane:

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Quote from: "Alan"Disney should only keep the Studio Tram Tour if they're going to invest in it, and add innovative new technology to it, like Universal are doing.

At Universal, what you see on the Studio Tram Tour is King Kong surrounding you in 3D:

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Whereas at WDS, what you see on the Studio Tram Tour is a fake plane:

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Sorry but I'll take a genuine film prop over a fake 3D monkey any day

Combining the both might be an idea. I do think the plane and other props always looked so sad just festering in a wood. We really only ride it for Catastrophy Canyon and the Dragon in London.

I think one of the reasons it not, well very good, is its almost in the wrong order; you go to Catastrophe Canyon and its like "whoah", and then the next 15 minutes is just "oh" and then you get off and its like, well that was a waste of time

QuoteSorry but I'll take a genuine film prop over a fake 3D monkey any day

I understand what you mean. The point I was trying to make is that Universal is really pushing the envelope and doing new things with their Tram Tour. Their King Kong show scene has been directed by Peter Jackson himself, and uses a lot of expensive new 3D technology. Whereas at the Walt Disney Studios, aside from Catastrophe Canyon, all you see are old props left outside. It's a slightly different quality of experience ;-)

I think that WDS should try and add new props every now and again to the tour to keep things fresh. STT could have been good if it was given more care and attention, like street sets, and more environments. Also I've never understood the point of the Dinotopia set. The Tram parks there and nothing happens, I remember when I first went on STT I was expecting something HUGE to happen and the Tram just sat there... :roll:

Hopefully if there is a masterplan for WDS (pleeeeease [-o< ) then STT will be relocated and majorly plussed to make it a must-do attraction on every visit!

Quote from: "SM:M3"I think one of the reasons it not, well very good, is its almost in the wrong order; you go to Catastrophe Canyon and its like "whoah", and then the next 15 minutes is just "oh" and then you get off and its like, well that was a waste of time

Good point - perhaps they could reverse the route?

I tweeted this yesterday on the WDSfans Twitter (//http://twitter.com/wdsfans):

QuoteDLP has send out a notice to travel agents informing Studio Tram Tour will be closed until August 31th. Typo or is there more to it

I'll try to get more information from my sources.  :)

August 31st? If TSPL opens on 17th, what are they doing with the rest of the time?

You mean it will not open on May 28th as they say? it will stay closed until August 31st? Shit, i already have 5 attractions closed during my trip

Hopefully it's a sign of something more than just a refurbishment...

Well let's all cross our fingers for this being a sign of more than just a refurbishment... If they could make this attraction as immersive as the first time you go into Catastrophe Canyon then it could be an amazing attraction. I know they won't be doing this now, but if they could just make the first steps towards this it would be huge in my opinion.

*Will be monitoring this topic*

Quote from: "Kristof"I tweeted this yesterday on the WDSfans Twitter (//http://twitter.com/wdsfans):

QuoteDLP has send out a notice to travel agents informing Studio Tram Tour will be closed until August 31th. Typo or is there more to it

I'll try to get more information from my sources.  :)

very intresting since the source I use as a travel agent says
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last updated yesterday hmm who knows

I noticed in a pic in the TSPL topic that they had taken up a lof of the tarmac around TSPL. It hadn't been there long so shouldn't need relaying already....

Edit: Here it be....

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he he, here it be! That's right Norwich that is :)

Lol, ironically, I dont really have a 'Norfolk' accent, and that 'here it be' was mored aimed at a northeners accent! :lol:

Anywho, back to Tram Tour.... :P

Any news guys? I will there on May 30. Will it be open or what?

if I had thought and rememberd about it I would of asked Disney when I was on the phone to them on Monday but completely slipped my mind lol

Any news? Is it going to open tomorrow?

Quote from: "yiazoo"Any news? Is it going to open tomorrow?

Juding by this image uploaded to DCP's facebook page earlier today that states a queue time of 25 minutes for the STT, I'd say it is back open  :?

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It did open judging by photos on Disney Central Plaza.  Catastrophe Canyon has been refurbished and cleaned out, but no other changes.   :)

i really enjoy this ride and can't wait to do it again in august!!! I had hoped there would be more changed though....

It is reopened, and although CC has been repainted, there were no earthquake effects on the tram really, and it was very disappointing. Also the screens were not used much, and 2 cars in each tram were left empty. Very disappointing after a 60 min wait. Hopefully it was just a fluke. You can see RC and the Zig Zag spin from it though :(

We did it just over 10 days ago. As davewasbaloo says, other than the fresh coat of red paint in the truck, not much change.

The screens were working OK for us, though, and the earthquake was good. We were seated in the first car, and they had left the last row empty (I was sitting in the row before last). When the water came down, we understood why... It went straight through the last row, hit the wall behind and came back for us... It took my a few moments to understand  how I got so wet when I was sitting on the far right of the row (so not facing the earthquake scene). For us it was surprising, but I'm not sure what would have happenned to anyone sitting in that last row. That water cames down pretty fast  :shock:

Oh, the worst was though, when we started, they stopped us for about 20 minutes, no explanation given. We were just after the station, next to the Toy Story Playland (which was fun for the first 5 minutes, but with all the trees you can't see much anyway, and after a while, we all were bored of it...

There must be something wrong with the car, if its letting in such a large amount of water?

I don't know if they've changed something with the pipes so that the water comes down differently, but they obviously knew it was coming since they left the row empty!! (despite the growing queue)

That's not as bad as when they were leaving 2 cars empty on the tram. It was running with 2 trains at 50% capacity.

And then they did not even shake when in the Canyon. Not a good show.

was all running properly last week, full cars and earthquake effect on

That is fantastic news!  What happened with the video? We only had the bit after Catastrophy Canyon. Did you have more on yours?

I can't remember it well enough from before to know if there was any difference, the costume section still ran but of course you're nowhere near the building anymore but It didn't reference the building itself (I think it did before, is that right?) I think to someone who had not been on STT before they wouldn't think anything of it. I thought the Canyon sequence worked brilliantly, Reign of Fire and the props up to their usual, unspectacular standard. Saying that my 6yo Son loves the Reign sequence, but I think that's because he believes a dragon really does live at DLRP under the castle and thought the fire was from him.

That is fantastic news. Sounds like we just had a fluke bad ride then.

I think the RoF set is brilliant too. It is very realistic looking. I think that one is spot on too.

Good to know that most of the things work. Although STT is not a "real" studio tour, like the one in Universal Studios Hollywood (have never experienced it), I still like the attraction, especially Catastrophe Canyon. I also think that the Reign of Fire set looks great. This set makes you feel like you are in a real studio.

I prefere the WDS version over the one in DHS. I think Disney could do so much more with STT, They just have to add more props from their movie productions. I can't imagine that this would be so expensive.

Quote from: "dagobert"I prefere the WDS version over the one in DHS. I think Disney could do so much more with STT, They just have to add more props from their movie productions. I can't imagine that this would be so expensive.

Agreed. The one in Florida used to be better before Motors Action knocked the golden girls house and other sets down, though if it means WDW has Motors Action, then it was worth it. I do think if they added a little more to WDSP tram tour it could be brilliant. It will never compete with Universal California, because that is a massive backlot with 80 years of real movie making history. But still, the one in Paris gives a nice glimpse at how movies are made.

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I love the STT ! I go on it every time :)  I dont see how there can be much problem/expense in Disney sending small parts from old movie sets to Paris for the STT :D  Like in the Blockbuster Cafe in WDS there are high school musical stuff... just small things like that would be a nice sight to pass by on the STT, im sure they could do alot more with it xx

Why have they removed them from Fantasyland and put them here? Seems like a bit of a pointless move to me. Perhaps they're being stored on STT temporarily for some reason... :?:

Quote from: "RnRCj"Why have they removed them from Fantasyland and put them here? Seems like a bit of a pointless move to me. Perhaps they're being stored on STT temporarily for some reason... :?:

Fantastyland?  I thought they were from that area of grass which TSPL now lies on?

I thought they were from near Alices labrynth-but its been a while since I've been. Still-unusual addition there.

Definitely from Fantasyland... near the waterways by Dumbo. Really a strange place to store them. What was there previously?

I remember seeing topiaries when I went in Jan'09, with a sign reading "Studio Horticulture Department" not long after the station before Dinotopia, so I don't know if they're that new.

I do recognize them, but cant put my figner on where. Especially the hippo.

Didn't they used to have a proper looking loch ness monster thingy there?

The Hippo is very familiar...
I think it was in the Disneyland park, not the studios. It does ring a bell. This is going to bug me now ;) someone please solve this mystery or I might be driven insane :S

it used to be on the grass to the side of STT where they have built TSPL, i know this as I had my photo taken there many moons ago

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Well Done, looks like I was completely off, haha ;)

Grr cant see that pic as I'm not a member :(

When I was at Disney last week there was a sign when you come back from the dinotopia set wich said somethink like Disneyland costume department. Does anybody know if they are planing to relocate the costume department to that spot because there were buildingscreens up and construction on the other side of them?

^ Ooo, interesting. But where could that be? The journey back from the Dino scene is right by Moteurs Action?

Well I saw it when we were riding back from catastrophe canyon so it whould be right beside toy story playland.

Are you getting confused with the Ratatouille area?

I think you were just seeing the sign for the current costuming building, which is next to Toy Story Playland and visible when coming back from Catastrophe Canyon. Look here (//http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&ll=48.867653,2.775622&spn=0.001367,0.004157&z=19).

No what I meant was:
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The sign just next to the gate in the bottom left of the photo.

I took the STT on Sunday and was confused by this also. On the screen they had different examples of costumes from films and off to the left a sign that said costume dept, then that was it! Loved the tour though :)

Ohh, right! That's new. I'd love to see a photo of this!

Maybe they got complaints about missing the costuming department out? :lol:

There aren't any current plans to move the building, and certainly not to that spot.

I'm afraid that I don't have one for you at the moment.
Perhaps someone else has made a picture of it.
if not than you have to wait till June because we are planning a trip than.

Does anybody know whet the price for new port bay is around that time, we want to stay there this time.
(it's one of the 2 hotels I've never been too)

I thought I'd reply to the topiary questions as I hadn't seen them earlier.....

Nothing has been moved from Fantasyland or Fantasia Gardens (where you can find the Hyacinth Hippo topiary); what you see on the Tram Tour are topiaries "in training"... that is, plants being grown into shape, to be put into the park later.

so with all the closures happening soon with STT does anyone know what this is for?? Are they adding/updating things or is just just plain maintenance?  :D

What closure?? Did I miss something?

on the closure/refurbishment list for January and February it states that STT will be closed from 3rd-31st Jan and 1st-11th Feb  :(

Well than I think they are going for the normal refurb and won't be adding something big. 1and a half mont is a to short periode to build some new addition to the ride (wich I think it sertanlly needs)
So I think the trains get some new software(like when I was there the movie said the ride was still sponsored by orange instead of sony ericcson) perhaps some new cars etc but not something really big.

This is more likley to be because of heavy earthworks that require constant access to the area for removal of Earth and foundations before the tower cranes are installed in the Ratatoolie Area.

@Paterdave2 I agree 1 and a half months isn't enough time to build anything new unfortunately... I wish it was though!!
@phantom247 I never even thought of that!! Is the new ratatouille paris street near STT?? I haven't been there yet =(
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Quote from: "SophieD"Is the new Ratatouille Paris street near STT?? I haven't been there yet =(

If you look at the following picture, the Ratty street is right in front of the cream coloured building (costuming dept.) and the attraction itself will be located to the left of it:
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Here it is from another perspective. The rat ride will be at the end of the street :)
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ah!! I see!! Thanks Festival Disney for the pics!!

I do think something drastic has to happen in STT (don't get me wrong, I love the ride) Its the whole dragon and fire aspect in the second part of the tour which is most dissapointing!! But I don't know what they could do to liven it up a little!! :? x

a dragon?

^That's an idea... ;-)

But if they start with the Reign of Fire set, they could make the Catastrophe Canyon set the 'grand final'.

That is a great idea turn the ride around but I think that for that they need complete new trains wich I think are a little bit to expencive for our beloved park.

Why would they need new trains?

I think that is a great idea. However, it could do with something new! It is still one of my favourites in WDS.

Quote from: "paterdave2"That is a great idea turn the ride around but I think that for that they need complete new trains wich I think are a little bit to expencive for our beloved park.

sorry, unsure why they would need new trains since the current trains will still be doing the same as they do just in a diffrent order so they would not need new trains for this they would just start the other dirction to which they currently start

I like the idea of turning the ride around!! You end up with the best bit last instead of the beginning!!
What would you have as the new trains? How could you design them?? x

Actually, you might need to at least modify them if you went the other way round, as the doors only open one side.

Quote from: "Adam"Actually, you might need to at least modify them if you went the other way round, as the doors only open one side.

I don't think so. If I'm not mistaken, the doors open on both sides. At least it looks like that on my pictures.

According to that unofficial rehab list thing I checked, the Studio Tram is closing from the 3rd Jan, to the 11th Feb... Thats quite a while considering the 3 months maintenance it had last year.

I quite like the STT trains.. the seats could be more comfortable though and they desperatly need to redo the onboard movie with Jeremy Irons!!  :thumbs:

"On the upcoming set they're shooting blah blah blah... it's extremely dangerous and completely off limits"
Gotta love that corny script and the Ironsmeister! :lol:
And the music thats played drives me insane! Worse than IASW in my books  :P

Quote from: "dagobert"I don't think so. If I'm not mistaken, the doors open on both sides. At least it looks like that on my pictures.

Yeah I think they must do. It would have been spectacularly short-sighted (even for the Disney of 2001/2002) to only fit opening doors on one side! They'll need a bloody good oiling though.

You'd have an incredibly drawn-out crawl back to the station after Catastrophe Canyon if you switched the direction, I'm not sure it'd necessarily make much difference to the overall satisfaction levels. Other issues might be the trams having to drive on the left, and if there's any equipment on the station itself which would need to be moved to the other end. I'm also not entirely sure how easy it is to switch the order of the videos - how do they work again? Is it more complicated than pressing a button?

It's a shame this Sony Ericsson sponsorship hasn't changed anything.

Editing the video would be easy. Its just a matter of reshuffling cues! It would be editing the music which would pose difficulties especially if there is dialogue over the music.. it would cause all sorts of problems with continuity! (but thats my film student knowledge talking!)
@FestivalDisney I know exactly what you mean about that music!! Its does get stuck in your head.. I have it playing in my head as I write this!!
Its such a shame that the costumes aren't part of the tour anymore.. I wonder if they could change this at all or is Toy Story Playland way to close??
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Whilst both doors look the same, only one side is able to open, as there is no mechanism on the other from this photo. If I remember correctly, the other side is sealed up.

I can't be sure this is 100% correct, as it is not the sort of thing you take a photo of!

Adam, it seems you are right. There is no opening mechanism on the other side, but I think it shouldn't be a big problem to add it.

As you say dagobert it doesn't look difficult to add those mechanisms to the other side..
Instead of changing the doors could a simple addition of a small round-a-bout do? Or would the train be too big to swing round?? (I'm not a driver lol)  :lol:  :lol:

There is a much more simple answer if they wanted to do this. simply turn the engine around to pull from the other end (and create a new film sequence, the current one doesn't make any sense since the [strike:1sqr5zeh]abomination[/strike:1sqr5zeh] addition of TSPL anyway.

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Whilst both doors look the same, only one side is able to open, as there is no mechanism on the other from this photo. If I remember correctly, the other side is sealed up.

I can't be sure this is 100% correct, as it is not the sort of thing you take a photo of!

If you zoom in on that pic, you can actually see the arms that would open the doors....

@davewasbaloo - I doubt they would allow that, as that would mean people going backwards.
@Martyn - the arms are there, but no hydraulics to open the doors.

I got it, turn the trucks upside down, then it all works out :)

Quote from: "Adam"@davewasbaloo - I doubt they would allow that, as that would mean people going backwards.
@Martyn - the arms are there, but no hydraulics to open the doors.

good point, didn't think of that....hmmmm.....maybe they could say it was inspired by Indiana Jones Backwards.  :D

would it be expensive to fit hydraulic arms or would it be cheaper to buy a new train? :?  :?  :?  :?

They are both expencive things to do.
If the change the route I think they also need to rebuild the station but if all rumours on the net are true we can expect they will rebuild the station on an other location or at least in a diffrent theme and add stuff to the stt but I don't know about that.

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Hehe thats a neat touch!

So that is where he ended up, at least he's not been put in storage somewhere.

You've got to be kidding me :(

See, I think that kind of decision is really stupid. Toy Story is an animated film, so no physical props were used in the making of it. What's the point of going on a behind the scenes Studio Tram Tour, to end up seeing models of vehicles that weren't even used in films? It doesn't make any sense and just ruins the purpose of the attraction.

The sooner WDS gets rid of the Studio Tram Tour, the better. Seriously, it's an embarrassment.

It doesn't have to be Alan, but choices like these ruin it. Epic fail DLP.

Pointless addition to the tour, not impressed!

They could have picked so many other props (even a mock up of Nick Cage's roller from Sorceror's Apprentice) why toon a physical props exhibit?

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have that empty hole in the middle where people were meant to stand for the photolocation. It could actually be quite funny to see all those "famous" cars and then RC sitting at the end...

Certainly nice at least to see a film featured that isn't 102 Dalmatians or Pearl Harbor!

I really do think its a neat idea. Of course he doesn't fit in, but thats adds to it. There's all these classic/vintage cars, then there's little cheeky RC hiding at the end, as if he's escaped from the Playland.

If it was someone like Lightening McQueen, then it wouldn't have the same affect really. RC has that little cute, cheekiness to him.

Though I agree with Anthony that it would have been better to use the RC from Pizza Planet (Is that still in there, they easily could swap them? And then it would make for easier photo's on RC in Pizza Planet).

My question is, why didn't they just put this RC figure somewhere else in Toy Story Playland, such as, within the queue for RC Racer? Why did they give up on using it in Toy Story Playland?

And speaking of Pizza Planet, when are they going to close that restaurant? At the very least they should change the theme to another film, not Toy Story.

Quote from: "Alan"And speaking of Pizza Planet, when are they going to close that restaurant? At the very least they should change the theme to another film, not Toy Story.

The latest rumour was actually that it would be rebuilt as a proper building (not a tent) sometime this year or next. I'm not sure if that's still a go...

Rebuilt in its current location? If that's true, Disneyland Paris Imagineers have lost the plot. They have a Buzz Lightyear ride in Discoveryland, and an entire Toy Story Playland over at the Walt Disney Studios. If they're going to build a permanent Pizza Planet restaurant, surely it should be either opposite Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast, or actually in Toy Story Playland? It makes no sense having it detached, next door to Captain EO.

I don't want to be the bad guy again, but please remove RC. He shouldn't be featured in the tram tour. I'm sure there are many good locations in the queue of RC Racer, like Alan already said, or somewhere else in TSPL.

In my opinion it would be the best if the TS restaurant i Discoveryland would close forever and be replaced by a restaurant that does fit the theme. WDS desperately needs a new restaurant, so why not build a TS restaurant adjacent to TSPL, like Alan suggested. It would fit perfectly.

Alan, I totally have to agree with you. If Disney rebuilds the TS restaurant, than it's perfectly clear that WDI has lost the plot. Splitting TS up to two themeparks and to two different locations in one land doesn't look like having a master plan.

It would be great if Disney would replace the TS restaurant with something like that:

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Sorry for being  :offtopic:

To be honest, that whole back area of Discoveryland needs a rethink. I say demolish Pizza Planet, and remove both attractions, and replace them with a large dark ride of some sort, including a restaurant and shop etc (similar to the Rat plan)

Quote from: "Martyn"To be honest, that whole back area of Discoveryland needs a rethink. I say demolish Pizza Planet, and remove both attractions, and replace them with a large dark ride of some sort, including a restaurant and shop etc (similar to the Rat plan)

That would be perfect for a restart of Discoveryland. Star Tours II could move to WDS and the whole area could be used for "Journey To The Center Of The Earth". During this placemaking Buzz Lightyear should also move to WDS and a nice table service restaurant should replace it. Imagine the view you would have on Central Plaza.

Discoveryland would receive the Jules Verne theme again and no Pixar in that land anymore.

Interesting ideas. Armaggedon was mentioned in 2009/10 as somewhere to close and the Narnia costumes were rumoured to move in. However, perhaps move Star Tours II in there is space is sufficient and as you say, use PP/ST/CEO area for a new ride or two. I think that not using Captain EO's space for a new ride and not a show would be an opportunity missed, especially in these cost cutting days.

Back on topic, I still love Studio Tram Tour - Jeremy Irons was on The One Show the other day and he just reminds me of the tour!

I'd love the whole area behind Space Mountain to become a wee HG Wells area, perhaps with a ride based on The Time Machine (similar to the Le Visionarium?), with some tripods everywhere.  Some themeing along the train line would also be brilliant, as thats possibly one of the most boring stretches of ride.....

*runs off the Home Imagineering thread*

QuoteArmaggedon was mentioned in 2009/10 as somewhere to close

I still reckon thats on the cards. Have you seen the exterior lately? Its ridiculous, you'd never think you at a Disney park with how its just been left to fade so badly.

Ok lets get back on topic.
The STT was closed for almost 4 weeks does anybody know what they have changed during this refurb?

From what is visible it seems to have been a re-paint of the Catastrophe Canyon set, and a bit of refurb around the station to remove the old sponsorship and replace it with the new. Other than that nothing noticable, Dinotopia set is still in a hideous state and really needs to be addressed, especially as you go past it twice!

QuoteFrom what is visible it seems to have been a re-paint of the Catastrophe Canyon set

That was done last year, so its unlikely they've done it again this year (considering it took 8 years for the first repaint).

Hello, is this atraction in function? Or is it closed right now? And will it be open in May, please?

According to the Closures and Refurbs page it should be open.  What is happening with it in May hasn't been released yet.

Maybe the construction workers for Ratatouille are still using the road? I think that's why it was closed in the first place, so the construction might be delayed.

According to @InsideDLParis it's still closed.

Either the dates were wrong or the work to build the new road overran. From photos of the Ratatouille construction it looks like all the boneyard props (well, what's left of them) have now been moved further back again alongside the new route.

Studio Tram Tour is back:

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I see on the net - Water on the train not working in these days? :O

The water in Catastrophe Canyon?

It was working fine last week.

the water from above the car/train in catastrophe canyon wasnt working when i went on april 20th. Only the one that comes from the top of the hill wA.

Water on train not working on 22th May 2012... :(

I wonder how much longer the tram will be there. There is not really much to see on the tour, except catastrophe canyon and a few props. I remember when you would still pass along things like the costume department. With all the re-routing, the tram tour haas become rather boring and unattractive to us, as we already know the canyond well enough. It is either time for some new things to see on the tour or for the tour to make place for something completely different

It's a sad state of affairs when all the attractions ACTUALLY related to cinema are the one's which people hate...studio tram tour, armaggedon, that old narnia thing

The park needs a new name if this is all disappearing...

Yep, a new name: Disney Studios Adventure

Quote from: "Alan"Yep, a new name: Disney Studios Adventure

Is this actually happening?

They should really make the 3rd  new generation/ anything that doesn't fit into a movie studios criteria park!

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Quote from: "Alan"Yep, a new name: Disney Studios Adventure

Is this actually happening?

The rumours say that's one of the names they've considered. It's too early for it to be certain, though. Don't forget how Space Mountain used to be called Discovery Mountain until the last minute.

Keep it "Walt Disney Studios," we are one of two Disney Parks that have a movie related theme park!

I agree, the theme of the Studios should remain movies. Imagineers should work on big attractions which are not necessarily based on (disney) movies. Just beautiful attractions with emotion like cinémagique and big thrills like Rock 'n' Roller coaster.

I completely agree! It's a shame Disney probably won't listen to their fans on the topic and do what they think will get more visitors! Lets face it adding adventure to the title doesn't have much impact, you can have more of an adventure in Disneyland Park. Just doesn't make sense!

We just got back, and the Studio tram tour was closed for our visit, I kept checking every day.I know its outdated but I love it, and was a little gutted it was closed. I hope they dont scrap it all together.

Is the studio tram tour closing ? When we were there last week, it was shut the whole tme, and the cms didnt know if there was a technical issue or if it was just closed. I was a little disappointed as this ride is an old favourite of mine

Apparently it was open again on Saturday.

Source: Mika, DCP

Oh I missed it by one day, such a shame.

Is this ride worth going on? Are the ques usually very big for it?

I think it's worth going on,  especially for Catastrophe Canyon.

I'd say the only interesting part is Catastrophe Canyon. I wouldn't personally stand in line more than 15 minutes for it.

The Tram Tour is in the center of the park and it has quite a low capacity – the trams can only carry a few hundred people per hour. Queues can be long, especially in the afternoon.

I don't go on the Tram Tour every visit,  and I wouldn't get  in a long queue for it because I' ve been on it before. I could say that about other rides.