Yes, the legendary Tim Burton has now been hired by Disney to make two new films, one a 3D animation version of Alice (going back to the origional book) and a new feature length version of his cult classic Frakenweenie (which will be a stop motion animation which will be given the lovely Disney 3D treatment).
I think this is the best news since I found out about Sweeny Todd. It sounds like Disney have woken up and have released that his quirky style sells seats at the cinema.
Source (//http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/tim_burtons_off_to_wonderland)
I've heard the news too! This could really be a marvelous combination!
Sounds good to me :)
I'm very much looking forward for the Alice movie. Tim Burton's movies are great and in combination with Disney, they're even better.
Waw, I love Burton!
These are great news to me!
Ladyghost.
:lol: This is bad news for me, as it'll mean I'll have TWO Disney versions of Cheshire Cat to love. :P Along with the classic book version, the American McGee's version and all the other random versions of Cheshire I've ever seen.
i dont like his films :S i seem to be one of the only people who doesn't
Quote from: "Nicholas-c"i dont like his films :S i seem to be one of the only people who doesn't
You are entitled to your own opinion Nicholas ;)
I can imagine that some people don't like his way of moviemaking. It's kinda different then most others and mostly a bit dark.
But what don't you like about his way??? :?:
I've commandeered this topic for mostly Alice in Wonderland now, which is sounding good from their casting so far.
Matt Lucas will play both Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. If you're not from the UK and don't know him, let me just say: PERFECT casting.
And of course, Johnny Depp will play the Mad Hatter.
And it'll be in 3D. And directed by Tim Burton. Phew.
I've got a feeling guests might soon be wondering why Alice's Curious Labyrinth and Mad Hatter's Tea Party don't/won't have any reference this film, the same way they do at Pirates.
This sounds exceptionally good, I've got a very good feeling about this film. Do you think it'll be 3D everywhere (like for instance, Spy Kids 3 was) or just at selected cinemas (Imax)?
It'll probably be 'Disney Digital 3-D', so anywhere with a digital projection screen can do it.
With all of Pixar's future releases and many of Disney's going into that format (as well as DreamWorks, etc), it'll hopefully soon be at most if not all multiplexes.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. Alice in Wonderland is one of my favourite stories and Tim Burton's work is amazing so it should be a brilliant film :mrgreen:
When I read the other day that Matt Lucas was playing Tweedle dee and tweedle dum I was so happy. Everything for this film sounds perfect, the cast is so far excellent and the director, well, Burton is the best man for the job.
I was a bit iffy when I read that the film will be using the same technique as Beowolf (actors rendered and slightly modified into 3D animated characters). Beowolf destroyed this entire concept, lets hope Burton uses it to his advantage though. I think I read somewhere that he will also use some 2D animation, that intrigues me.
I believe filming starts next month, or its started, can't remember :D
Can't wait to hear more!!!
i just cannot wait for this!! i love Tim Burtons work-he had me hooked from Edward Scissorhands!! and Alice In Wonderland is a perfect story to capture his brilliance in filmmaking!!
this film will be awsome in the imax cinemas!! we should organise a trip to see it in DLRP's Imax!!!
I'm probably the only one who thinks this but i feel this film could flop because of the big names they're casting, I'd say Johnny Depp will do a good job as the Mad Hatter but Matt Lucas, im not too sure, i'd say though, i'd say it depends on who will be in the film, if Burton picks really big names then i feel this could be a flop, hopefully i'm proven wrong though :P
:shock: Matt Lucas as Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee is GENIUS. :P And I'm very pleased to hear that Johnny Depp will once again be working with Tim Burton. I just can't wait to hear more about what's going on with this film.
Personally, I loved Beowulf, so I'd be more than happy to see this film done in the exact same way.
Quote from: "-breeno-"I'm probably the only one who thinks this but i feel this film could flop because of the big names they're casting, I'd say Johnny Depp will do a good job as the Mad Hatter but Matt Lucas, im not too sure, i'd say though, i'd say it depends on who will be in the film, if Burton picks really big names then i feel this could be a flop, hopefully i'm proven wrong though :P
Did you see Matt Lucas in "Wind in the Willows" as Toad? He was fantastic. Great character actor. I think he is born for this part
First photos have leaked online of Mia Wasikowska (Alice) on the set:
Click here for the photos (//http://infdaily.fusebox.com/2008/09/our-first-look-at-tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland.html)
Wow I really like the way this film is looking!
The photographs are brilliant, thanks so much for posting the link Kristof! :D
Wow, I've got high hopes for this film now, it looks like it'll be great :mrgreen:
:shock: Eek, I'm so excited for this film! :( 2010 is such a long way away.
Is that Charlestown in Cornwall?! I stayed in one of those four cottages up on the hill a couple of years ago. :mrgreen:
Alice is older than I expected, but that's probably a good thing. I'm really glad he's filming in England, anyway.
Anne Hathway will portray the White Queen from the story I heard.
Yes! I heard that too, opposite Helena Bonham Carter (who else lol) as the red queen, should be interesting to see Ann Hathaway in a Tim Burton. Will it work?
I'm soo looking forward to this movie as I love everything that Tim Burton just touches! :D
Regarding Anne Hathaway I'm also excited to see if it will work, but I am very that she is in the movie :lol:
Quote from: "AmericanMouse"Anne Hathway will portray the White Queen from the story I heard.
Really ? Must admit, i can't imagine her as white queen at first, but curios how she will look then. Really looking forward to the movie too, also because Burton is the director.
After giving it a bit of thought, I have come to the conclusion that Anne Hathaway will do well in a Tim Burton film, she is very good at acting with her face, and can contort it into funny faces! lol. I think she will do well, shes a good actress and he had obviously seen something in her he likes! and I for one trust him to make a good film!
And it also reunites her with the Disney family, having done both Princess Diaries films.
According to Wikipedia Lord of the Ring star Christopher Lee & Port Talbot's very own (Actor who played Tony Blair in The Queen and The London Investor in Blood Diamond) Michael Sheen[/b] are also signed up for Burton's take on the Lewis Carroll Novels alongside Helena Bonham Carter (Red Queen) Johnny Depp's Madhatter, Matt Lucas' Tweedles Dum and Dee, with Anne Hathaway as the White Queen (Whom I suspect is the Original Version of the Queen of Hearts... but then I'm not sure)
No Matter What it Looks as though Burton is taking the movie back to it literacy starting point and the use of logic that Carroll placed in as The Story tells the story of a game of Chess (Hence the Two Queens)
I thank my brother for his use of the net and interest in all things Burton for the update here... but then he could be totally wrong... not with the Literacy Point of the book though as he's studying that at Uni with Creative Writing
This is what IMDB has written on its new area
QuoteChristopher Lee in a role that has not yet been confirmed. The buzz is that Lee will play either the Caterpillar, King of Hearts,
QuoteAccording to christopher lee web Christopher Lee's role has not yet been disclosed, however johnnydeppreads say that Alan Rickman will play the hookah smoking Caterpillar.
Both Christopher Lee and Alan Rickman have amazing voices!
I'm SO looking forward to this film - Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter is genius! I love anything Tim Burton does - I bought The Corpse Bride the other day and oh my god, amazing! And Alan Rickman playing the caterpillar - great bit of casting! :D
Hell YES. Alan Rickman as the Caterpillar is just brilliant! o3o; I'm not too happy about who's down for playing the Cheshire Cat though. They've got Michael Sheen, the guy who played Tony Blair in The Queen. :(
Quote from: "Masamune"They've got Michael Sheen, the guy who played Tony Blair in The Queen. :(
But oh the irony. :lol:
o.o Where's the irony?
Mesamune; There Be nothing wrong with our Michael thank ye very much,
An Accomplished Stage Actor, playing the role of Henry in Shakepeare's Henry V, amoung many credits on Londons West End as an actor of Plays.
Star of Movies Such as The Queen for his role as teflon Tony (The reason why there is Irony- Blair was always seen with the widest grin on his face, looking like the cheshire cat, but then his wife is the cat!), He's been in A Blood Diamond, Underworld, and is the first title name in Frost/Nixon:the Movie a character he played in London on Stage.
You may question burtons Choice as too why he's picked Mr Sheen, but considering his credentials the Welsh Wonder is a great choice!
You may wonder how I know all of this and Why I am defending Michael...
I know the Family: His father is a Jack Nicleson look-a-like and is a figure head at my Theatre Group... I met him just 3 weeks ago! and to say he is the most down to earth man would be an understatement, unlike most stars who want pampering Michael took his own bags and was met by his father... and knowing who he was, I didn't feel star struck... and this Star is Rising quicker than you can imagine...
So Bring the Port Talbot back to the Big Screen.... Roll on Burton... Give Master Sheen his dues... he's better than he's given credit for!
:roll: I never said that the guy was a bad actor. I just think that considering all the awesome people that have been cast in other rolls, they could've done a better job of casting Cheshire. Not only is Cheshire Cat my fave character in the book (as well as my fave Disney character), I am also a HUGE fan of Whoopi Goldberg's interpretation of Cheshire in that TV film version of Alice that was done in 1999. She was just awesome as Cheshire, so it would take some DAMN good acting to beat Whoopi.
I can only base my opinion of him on what I've seen of his work (The Queen is all I've ever seen him in, as I don't recall him in those other films you mentioned), and personally, I just don't think he's at the same level as other people that have been cast. Like I said, I don't think he's a bad actor...I just don't think he's good enough at this point, compared to (a) other people already cast in this film and (b) the standard set by Whoopi Goldberg in the 1999 film.
Quote from: "Masamune" :roll: I never said that the guy was a bad actor. I just think that considering all the awesome people that have been cast in other rolls, they could've done a better job of casting Cheshire... I am also a HUGE fan of Whoopi Goldberg's interpretation of Cheshire in that TV film version of Alice that was done in 1999. She was just awesome as Cheshire, so it would take some DAMN good acting to beat Whoopi.
I can only base my opinion of him on what I've seen of his work (The Queen is all I've ever seen him in, as I don't recall him in those other films you mentioned), and personally, I just don't think he's at the same level as other people that have been cast. Like I said, I don't think he's a bad actor...I just don't think he's good enough at this point, compared to (a) other people already cast in this film and (b) the standard set by Whoopi Goldberg in the 1999 film.
To me an actor... those comments show you think he is actually a bad actor.... Since when has Matt Lucas been that great an actor compared with Depp and Hathaway?
The same was said of Heath Ledger's casting as the Joker... Jack set the standard... and well... Heath kicked the Standard into touch
Burton likes to make stars out of actors... Look At Depp... no one had really heard of the future Captain Jack before Burton gave him scissors for hands... Likewise with Bonham Carter... The Future Beatrix lastrange wouldn't have the gothic vibe unless Burton has
used and influenced her in a vast majority of his feature films.
Micheal is well capable of taking the role of the Cheshire Cat down another path, like Heath did to the Joker... and Micheal has the grin to do so to... Just look at his Tony Blair!
His work ethic towards a character is unparalleled, he's played a vast majority of bi-opic Characters including Blair, and Carry on Camping Star Kenneth Williams
If you've not heard of any other pieces of his work... Here's a few from imdb.com
Frost/Nixon as David Frost
Blood Diamond as Rupert Simmons
"The Battle for Rome" TV mini-series .... Nero
HG Wells: War with the World (2006) (TV) .... H.G. Wells
The Queen (2006) .... Tony Blair
Kenneth Williams: Fantabulosa! (2006) (TV) .... Kenneth Williams
Underworld: Evolution (2006) .... Lucian
The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse (2005) .... Jeremy
Kingdom of Heaven (2005) .... Priest
Timeline (2003) .... Lord Oliver
The Deal (2003) (TV) .... Tony Blair
Underworld (2003) .... Lucian
He is also the ex-fiance to Kate Beckensdale, and must have some clout in the world as Ashton stitched him up in using him to Punk Kate, with whom he has a daughter.
My question otherwise... Who Would have you Cast as the Cat?
SPOILER!Photo of Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter
From hollywoodgrind;
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Johnny Depp will be appearing in the Tim Burton interpretation of the Lewis Carroll classic Alice in Wonderland. Depp, pictured above, will play the Mad Hatter. The movie will hit theaters March 5, 2010.
//http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/johnny-depp-as-the-mad-hatter-first-pic/
WOW!
Owain Diolch!
Its is eerily freaky... yet... Somewhat satisfying!!
Next one I want to see...
Lucas' Tweedles and Sheen's Cheshire
Bring it on!
Wow! It's not what I was expecting to see or had in mind, but then again that's what Tim Burton does. Nevertheless, he looks fantastic, and I can't wait for this film :mrgreen:
Quote from: "Captain Pan"Quote from: "Masamune" :roll: I never said that the guy was a bad actor. I just think that considering all the awesome people that have been cast in other rolls, they could've done a better job of casting Cheshire... I am also a HUGE fan of Whoopi Goldberg's interpretation of Cheshire in that TV film version of Alice that was done in 1999. She was just awesome as Cheshire, so it would take some DAMN good acting to beat Whoopi.
I can only base my opinion of him on what I've seen of his work (The Queen is all I've ever seen him in, as I don't recall him in those other films you mentioned), and personally, I just don't think he's at the same level as other people that have been cast. Like I said, I don't think he's a bad actor...I just don't think he's good enough at this point, compared to (a) other people already cast in this film and (b) the standard set by Whoopi Goldberg in the 1999 film.
To me an actor... those comments show you think he is actually a bad actor.... Since when has Matt Lucas been that great an actor compared with Depp and Hathaway?
The same was said of Heath Ledger's casting as the Joker... Jack set the standard... and well... Heath kicked the Standard into touch
Burton likes to make stars out of actors... Look At Depp... no one had really heard of the future Captain Jack before Burton gave him scissors for hands... Likewise with Bonham Carter... The Future Beatrix lastrange wouldn't have the gothic vibe unless Burton has
used and influenced her in a vast majority of his feature films.
Micheal is well capable of taking the role of the Cheshire Cat down another path, like Heath did to the Joker... and Micheal has the grin to do so to... Just look at his Tony Blair!
His work ethic towards a character is unparalleled, he's played a vast majority of bi-opic Characters including Blair, and Carry on Camping Star Kenneth Williams
If you've not heard of any other pieces of his work... Here's a few from imdb.com
Frost/Nixon as David Frost
Blood Diamond as Rupert Simmons
"The Battle for Rome" TV mini-series .... Nero
HG Wells: War with the World (2006) (TV) .... H.G. Wells
The Queen (2006) .... Tony Blair
Kenneth Williams: Fantabulosa! (2006) (TV) .... Kenneth Williams
Underworld: Evolution (2006) .... Lucian
The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse (2005) .... Jeremy
Kingdom of Heaven (2005) .... Priest
Timeline (2003) .... Lord Oliver
The Deal (2003) (TV) .... Tony Blair
Underworld (2003) .... Lucian
He is also the ex-fiance to Kate Beckensdale, and must have some clout in the world as Ashton stitched him up in using him to Punk Kate, with whom he has a daughter.
My question otherwise... Who Would have you Cast as the Cat?
Have you seen Matt Lucas in The Wind and the Willows? He's bloody brilliant, so I have no doubts that he'll be good in this film. And LOL, I can't believe you're comparing Micheal Sheen to Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger was always a fantastic actor, one of my favourites. I loved the guy well before The Dark Knight, and knew he was fully capable of pulling off the Joker. :roll: I'm the person who would laugh in the face of people who doubted Heath Ledger, and the person who happily said "I told you so" once the film was released.
I've seen quite a few of those films you've mentioned, but still can't recall him in any of them. Feel free to laugh in my face for doubting this guy, I can take an "I told you so" if it turns out good. For now though, I will continue to believe that a better choice could've been made. Remember, this is my own opinion based on what I've seen of him, which is only The Queen if you don't count the other 5 films he's in that I've seen where I don't actually remember him (if he was as great as you're making out, surely I would've remembered him in more than one film). You sound like you actually know the guy personally, so you're bound to be slightly biased since you're a friend of his family. Just keep in mind that it's my own opinion, meaning that it's nothing to get upset about. :P
On that last note, I'll have to get back to you. :) I've definatly been thinking about who I personally would've loved to have seen in that role instead, but I'm wanting to narrow it down to just one. There's too many names running through my head right now. :lol: Plus my friend's suggestion of Anthony Stewart Head, which I quite liked the idea of.
Quote from: "Owain"SPOILER!
Photo of Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter
That's truly one of Depp's most spectacular guises yet. And we haven't even seen him act the role yet.
You know when you just get a good feeling about a project? :)
WOW!
I absolutely love how Johnny Depp looks!
Its amazing! :mrgreen:
I'm so excited now to see this film!
:P I forgot to even comment on the Johnny Depp pic. :shock: He looks amaaazing. I hope more pics of him as the Mad Hatter are released soon! :( I can't believe we have to wait until 2010 for this film. And OMG, Stephen Fry is now involved! I adore Stephen Fry!
In regards to who I would rather see in the role of Cheshire, I finally managed to decide on Adrien Brody. I believe that he's a very talented actor, and he just looks like someone who popped right out of the Tim Burton universe. My second choice was Hugo Weaving. :)
Ok... I think Its Time To leave Mr Burton and His Choice to play the Cheshire Cat alone...
But Did I miss sometihng But
Alan Rickman is to play the Caterpillar, and Crispin Glover is to play the Knave of Hearts who infamously Stole Some Tarts!
Along with Sir Stephen Fry and Chistopher Lee also aboard for the movie... but in currently un named roles... One of them Has to be the Narrator... Here's Hoping Its Sir Stephen as he's FRYtifully amazing!
Stephen Fry and Christopher Lee!!!!
OMG, this is like, the best actor line up for a film EVER.
I'm still not sure on Depp's Hatter but I'm sure it will be interesting and suit the film perfectly.
Quote from: "Captain Pan"One of them Has to be the Narrator... Here's Hoping Its Sir Stephen as he's FRYtifully amazing!
that was a FRYtifully bad joke there Pan :lol:
Quote from: "Clarebelle"Quote from: "Captain Pan"One of them Has to be the Narrator... Here's Hoping Its Sir Stephen as he's FRYtifully amazing!
that was a FRYtifully bad joke there Pan :lol:
:oops: :oops: Now I feel Embarrassed! :oops: :oops:
But Stephen is Amazing as Narrators... [strike:zbp9kmh0]Look[/strike:zbp9kmh0]... Listen to the Harry Potter Books.. and then Adverts for Numerous products... Stephen just has the best voice for Narrative ever... Although Christopher Lee is Really Good Too!
I agree with you CP, Fry would make a brilliant narrator. The Harry Potter books are brilliant, I listen to them regularly... Having him in a Burton movie could really be quite something!!
OK, I'm not one to put much stock in the excited ramblings of Wikipedia...but after seeing the current line-up listed on Wikipedia for Alice in Wonderland, I dare to believe! If this current list of cast and characters is true, I can officially die happy (after seeing the film of course).
Mia Wasikowska as Alice
Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter
Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen
Anne Hathaway as the White Queen
Michael Sheen as the White Rabbit
Alan Rickman as the Caterpillar.
Stephen Fry as the Cheshire Cat
Matt Lucas as Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Crispin Glover as the Knave of Hearts
Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock
Noah Taylor as the March Hare
Barbara Windsor as the Dormouse
Timothy Spall as the Bloodhound
Eleanor Tomlinson as Fiona Chataway
Jemma Powell as Alice's Sister
STEPHEN FRY AS THE CHESHIRE CAT MAKES ME HAPPY. Micheal Sheen as the White Rabbit instead of the Cheshire Cat MAKES ME HAPPY. :lol: And Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock makes me scream like a schoolgirl.
:P I'm crossing my fingers that the above list is true.
Quote from: "Masamune"OK, I'm not one to put much stock in the excited ramblings of Wikipedia...but after seeing the current line-up listed on Wikipedia for Alice in Wonderland, I dare to believe! If this current list of cast and characters is true, I can officially die happy (after seeing the film of course).
Mia Wasikowska as Alice
Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter
Helena Bonham Carter as the Red Queen
Anne Hathaway as the White Queen
Michael Sheen as the White Rabbit
Alan Rickman as the Caterpillar.
Stephen Fry as the Cheshire Cat
Matt Lucas as Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Crispin Glover as the Knave of Hearts
Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock
Noah Taylor as the March Hare
Barbara Windsor as the Dormouse
Timothy Spall as the Bloodhound
Eleanor Tomlinson as Fiona Chataway
Jemma Powell as Alice's Sister
STEPHEN FRY AS THE CHESHIRE CAT MAKES ME HAPPY. Micheal Sheen as the White Rabbit instead of the Cheshire Cat MAKES ME HAPPY. :lol: And Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock makes me scream like a schoolgirl.
:P I'm crossing my fingers that the above list is true.
Now your not the only one to have heard rumours and read the slight change in cast,
but I hadn't heard of Fry and Lee's roles, I knew Michael Was Changing to a role which I do believe will suit him better, but there was still no need for you to strike him off without properly observing his work!
Hearing that Fry as the Cheshire Cat, it will be remarkably strange cause of his awefully strong English Accent... and his prominence in Movie isn't as strong as it is in TV. But then Sir Stephen has always been remarkably good at anything he's done.
HoweverWhat one must do is wait and see particularly with Wikipedia... Check the Citation as fans can manipulate what they wish. Unfortunately imdb.com Still Lists both Fry and Lee as Unnamed Characters, and our Michael as the Cat. Sorry.
But as I have myself a minor source on this movie, I might be able to fetch home a few bits of info... as Master Sheen Should be returning to our valley for a short time as he promotes and attends the Premiere of Frost/Nixon, in which he plays David Frost
:P Hence why I'm crossing my fingers. Since it's Wikipedia, it could very well not be true. I'd be very happy if it was, but I won't get my hopes up fully until it's confirmed. :)
According to the D23 site, Alice will be coming out next March... in IMAX 3D!
http://d23.disney.go.com/articles/03310 ... eImax.html (http://d23.disney.go.com/articles/033109_NF_BN_AliceImax.html)
:o Woooooo! Although, since I'm short-sighted, 3D doesn't really work properly for me. :lol: I've tried putting the 3d glasses over my normal glasses, and under them, but it still doesn't look right.
QuoteJohnny Depp ... The Mad Hatter
Anne Hathaway ... The White Queen
Michael Sheen ... The White Rabbit
Alan Rickman ... The Caterpillar
Mia Wasikowska ... Alice
Helena Bonham Carter ... The Red Queen
Stephen Fry ... The Cheshire Cat
Crispin Glover ... The Knave of Hearts
Christopher Lee ... The Jabberwock
Timothy Spall ... The Bloodhound
Noah Taylor ... The March Hare
Matt Lucas ... Tweedledee / Tweedledum
imdb.com has come in line with Masamune's Wikipedia report... And with imdb.com also listing the movie as in
Post Production.
:lol: Wiki knows all!
:( Mm, I hate that this film is still so far away.
Quote from: "Masamune" :lol: Wiki knows all!
:( Mm, I hate that this film is still so far away.
Time Conquers all... Just wait to see the delay it'll receive from the US release to the UK release...
Apparently its a day and date world wide release.
Principle filming has completed, so yes it is in post production. With such a long way off for release, they are certainly spending time on the effects etc...
Quote from: "penfold12"Apparently its a day and date world wide release.
Principle filming has completed, so yes it is in post production. With such a long way off for release, they are certainly spending time on the effects etc...
You wouldn't expect nothing but the best from Burton... he's got to make Depp look Mad... Sheen fluffy, and Give Stephen a Grin that makes a demented dentist cry at!
Can't wait to see how Stephen Fry plays the Cheshire Cat, I think he'll do it brilliantly!
:D Same here Luke. :lol: Also, I can't wait to see Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock.
Quote from: "Captain Pan"You wouldn't expect nothing but the best from Burton... he's got to make Depp look Mad... Sheen fluffy, and Give Stephen a Grin that makes a demented dentist cry at!
Johnny Depp certainly looks interesting in the image I've seen :lol:
Quote from: "Masamune" :D Same here Luke. :lol: Also, I can't wait to see Christopher Lee as the Jabberwock.
Me too! Christopher Lee will do an outstanding job! I'm really looking forward to seeing him in this film!
I'm still worried about this ending up a flop (and believe me it takes some guts to stand up and say this after reading through this topic :lol: ), the big names are still making me see this as a "cash-in on the big names" movie, where whether the film itself is good or not doesn't matter. If Depp can pull this one i'm not sure, although he usually pulls some surprises, Matt Lucas as Tweedle dee/ Tweedle Dum, sounds good on paper but the actual thing can be much different, i've grown very bored of Lucas, along with his Little Britain partner and Mr Fry as Cheshire Cat is "interesting" shall we say, seems like a strange one in my opinion, i would of much rather of had him as narrator (especially after playing Little Big Planet, he's brilliant in it), i'm guessing it'll just be Fry's voice and a computer animated cat, although seeing Stephen in cat form looks scarily likely now.
So i shall be waiting until a trailer is released before getting excited, because at the moment i'm not excited at all.
Breeno.... You've really envoked some feelings there young man...
Looking back at the cast list... you are right... This could turn out Splendid... or end up a troubled mess on the floor...
However there is somthing about it which gives me a belief that it can and indeed Will work... and its because of 2 names...
Johnny Depp and Tim Burton: for the one reason... As a team they are yet to let me down...
plus having that Port Talbot boy play a character who isn't "researchable" isn't political or a celebrity (Blair, David Frost, Blair, Brian Clough, rumoured to play Blair again... Kenneth Williams) My hands are sort of tied with belief Cause outside of his roles as Blair, Frost and Clough.... This is probably Michael's Biggest and most noteworthy role to date... This is his Big Time Chance...
Yeah there are big names involved...but they're big names for a reason. I think my only worry comes from the fact that we don't know much about the girl playing Alice. :) I believe in Tim Burton though, so I'm sure it'll be great.
Quote from: "penfold12"Apparently its a day and date world wide release.
Principle filming has completed, so yes it is in post production. With such a long way off for release, they are certainly spending time on the effects etc...
Wasn't it mentioned
ages ago that there will be 2D and 3D animation? That would tell me that's where the time will be taken up.
I heard that an image of Depp as the mad hatter has been released but I haven't come across it yet, I'll enquire more with the guy I heard about it from.
You mean you haven't just googled Johnny Depp mad hatter (//http://is.gd/sJyq)?
Quote from: "Agent Lex"You mean you haven't just googled Johnny Depp mad hatter (//http://is.gd/sJyq)?
He looks cool! Cannot wait for this! :D :D :D
aaand more pics:
//http://celluloidandcigaretteburns.blogspot.com/2009/01/alice-in-wonderland-march-5th-2010.html
:D
Anne Hathaway looks stunning! is that a photo from the filming? I dont think that line up could be any better. Johnny Depp looks like he has just stepped out of an old painting
I cant wait until this hits cinemas
Quote from: "Riebi"aaand more pics:
//http://celluloidandcigaretteburns.blogspot.com/2009/01/alice-in-wonderland-march-5th-2010.html
:D
Looks like the page was removed... Did anyone safe them?
No :( sorry :(
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Total Film has also revealed that the story is very different - Read here (//http://www.totalfilm.com/news/meet-the-mad-hatter)
I like the sound of it. I don't like the updated pic of Matt Lucas as Tweedle dee and dum though. Maybe footage would make me feel better about it?
Still unsure about Depp's mad hatter too.
if you ignore the crazy skin tone and colours, is it just me or does the Mad Hatter look a bit like Madonna...?!
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...maybe it's just me haha!
:lol: I thought he looked more like Elijah Wood.
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I have to say, both Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter look terrifying. :shock: Why does the Mad Hatter appear to have blood on his hands? I seriously can't wait for this film. I can't believe that Disney have allowed Tim Burton to make the characters THAT creepy. This can only be a good thing!
wow, the pics are really...really... burton-like. Can't wait to see the movie
Disney have released the film's logo along with hi-res pictures. See them here in all there glory.
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New (I think) official image:
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http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,2021306 ... _2,00.html (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20213067_20213322_20291772_2,00.html)
She's quite a bit older, this Alice...
Quote from: "Anthony"New (I think) official image:
She's quite a bit older, this Alice...
The story takes place after the original story, so kind of a spiritual sequel to the story. Thus explaining why Alica looks older than she would in the original story.
The CGI in the background looks great, good thing they got a pretty big budget.
QuoteThe Loyal Subjects of the Red Queen, the Loyal Subjects of the White Queen, and the Disloyal Subjects of the Mad Hatter are all building armies on Facebook. The fan page with the biggest army at 4PM PDT on Thursday, July 23 will get to see an exclusive new trailer from Disney's Alice in Wonderland before anyone else. So be sure to log onto Facebook and choose a side.
The Loyal Subjects of the Red Queen: Facebook.com/RedQueenSubjects
The Loyal Subjects of the White Queen: Facebook.com/WhiteQueenSubjects
The Disloyal Subjects of the Mad Hatter: Facebook.com/MadHatterSubjects
There is also a general Alice in Wonderland fan page that can be found here: Facebook.com/AliceInWonderland
The Official Disney Website is now active (//http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/aliceinwonderland/)
I top it off with...
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TEASER TRAILER (//http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/alice-in-wonderland/teaser-trailer)
And What A Trailer...
Bring on the UK release NOW!
The trailer looks amazing!
Johnny Depp looks/acts/sounds amazing!
Quote from: "burntsienna"The trailer looks amazing!
Johnny Depp looks/acts/sounds amazing!
Its Just been removed...
Its due to copyright... and could be active on Friday as its out in Cinemas attached to G-Force
Here's the link that I used :)
http://www.cinematical.com/2009/07/22/f ... ow-online/ (http://www.cinematical.com/2009/07/22/first-alice-in-wondeland-trailer-now-online/)
Quote from: "burntsienna"Here's the link that I used :)
Thanks! Missed the earlier link.
And... "Naughty!" It looks like Depp has somehow mastered yet another quirky performance. You'd think by now they wouldn't be quirky at all, but it keeps happening. It mostly looks great, although I'm not sure how I feel about the whole very CGI/motion capture-type style. Some of the shots in the trailer look a bit iffy. I know it's Wonderland, but I'd like it to have depth beyond looking like a wizzy computer game.
I somehow completely missed it'd also be in IMAX though, so wow! Disney back on IMAX! The falling into the rabbit hole scene there looks like it's going to be a highlight already.
Thanks for the link Laura, and thanks to Tom for posting the news (and telling me on msn ;) ).
I'm still not confident over this movie, i thought this trailer could of made me change my view and although it has a bit, i'm still not getting my hopes up. I do think Depp is great in the trailer, hopefully he can crack another great character but apart from that i can't see too much else. The film seems a bit too dark in areas (although i've never read the book so i cant make a full judgement), the scenery seems just too CGI and fake to me and Cheshire cat just looks plain freaky (how they are going to get Stephen Fry's voice to work with that i'll never know).
There's also some faults i have that have nothing to do with the trailer. I don't like the way it's based after the original story, also did i read somewhere that Alice has supposedly forgot everything about Wonderland? Come on, if you were to go to a place like that i'm sure you could remember even a tiny bit 10 years later. Also i'm dreading to see what Helena Bonham Carter does with the Red Queen, can't stand her (she nearly ruined Terminator Salvation for me before it was 10 minutes in :P)
Ooooh, this looks great!!! Looks like Johnny Depp's Mad Hatter is going to steal the show from everyone else... Naughty naughty!!
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "burntsienna"Here's the link that I used :)
Thanks! Missed the earlier link.
And... "Naughty!" It looks like Depp has somehow mastered yet another quirky performance. You'd think by now they wouldn't be quirky at all, but it keeps happening. It mostly looks great, although I'm not sure how I feel about the whole very CGI/motion capture-type style. Some of the shots in the trailer look a bit iffy. I know it's Wonderland, but I'd like it to have depth beyond looking like a wizzy computer game.
I somehow completely missed it'd also be in IMAX though, so wow! Disney back on IMAX! The falling into the rabbit hole scene there looks like it's going to be a highlight already.
Tis alrighty =]
Quote from: "-breeno-"Thanks for the link Laura, and thanks to Tom for posting the news (and telling me on msn ;) ).
There's also some faults i have that have nothing to do with the trailer. I don't like the way it's based after the original story, also did i read somewhere that Alice has supposedly forgot everything about Wonderland? Come on, if you were to go to a place like that i'm sure you could remember even a tiny bit 10 years later. Also i'm dreading to see what Helena Bonham Carter does with the Red Queen, can't stand her (she nearly ruined Terminator Salvation for me before it was 10 minutes in :P)
:shock: :o
I love Helena Bonham Carter! she's a little crazy which is just great, I think she'd be amazing to meet in person, a bit 'out there' and eccentric.
I can't wait to see the film, I think it looks fantastic, a little weird but that just makes it even better!
[youtube:k7n0qu6n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjtJBucdBqg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:k7n0qu6n]
This is annoying, all these videos keep getting taken down by Disney. Though one site it will be back up tomorrow :D
Also there was a special event today that Disney set up at Comic-Con. You can read all about it HERE (link) (//http://www.totalfilm.com/news/comic-con-09-disney-announces-alice-exhibit). That would've been so cool to go to.
Another link here, currently working at 1:40am. :wink:
http://teaser-trailer.com/2009/06/tim-b ... movie.html (http://teaser-trailer.com/2009/06/tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland-movie.html)
Comic-con 1080p trailers... That cat is going to give me nightmares...
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Comic-Con ... Links/5352 (http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Comic-Con_Tim_Burtons_Alice_in_Wonderland_Teaser_Trailer_with_HD_Links/5352)
The trailer looks great! I can't wait until Alice is out in cinemas.
QuoteCheshire cat just looks plain freaky (how they are going to get Stephen Fry's voice to work with that i'll never know).
Actually the Chesire cat seems to be based on John Tenniel's original illustrations of the Cheshire Cat (//http://i32.tinypic.com/2afzm9i.jpg).
I love it! For me the story is very dark and twisted! I remember when reading the books as a kid, being actually afraid of this place.
The teaser trailer is very teasing and got me very excited. I have total faith to Burton and the whole cast is great! I'm sure he will depict all this twisted darkness cause that's what the story is. At least that's the way I see it.
looks so good and making me just want to go and see it
This looks epic! I cannot wait to see it - seems like the usual Burton magic :D
:cry: OMG I'm so happy! The Cheshire Cat is ADORABLE! Yes, it looks incredibly sinister at the same time, but it's also insanely cute! I couldn't be happier. And to think, STEPHEN FRY is gonna be voicing him. :P This trailer is made of win.
I think it might be because of Tron Legacy, but the anticipation levels for this aren't as high as they really should be.
Plus, there's a little voice inside my head screaming 'Remember Willy Wonka'.
I enjoyed Tim Burton's version (apart from the god-awful Oompa Loompa), and I'm kinda worried as a result.
Does Messers Burton and Depp have any plans to twist, distort or possibly even ruin any other of my childhood memories ?? Star Wars perhaps, or Bagpuss ?? :?
:P I would die a happy death if Tim Burton took on Bagpuss. :lol:
I think it looks fantastic. I've yet to see a Tim Burton film that I didn't like, so I have no doubts that this film will be awesome. With Tim Burton in charge, and with so many decent actors involved, how can it NOT be good?
I just heard something on another forum about this movie.
*WARNING BIG POTENTIAL SPOILER*
[spoiler:5sc1nqb6]There's a rumour going that there's going to be a love story between Alice and the Mad Hatter.
If thats true, my low expectations for this movie sinks even lower :?[/spoiler:5sc1nqb6]
o.o As far as I know that's more than a rumour. I've known about it for a while, and I'm pretty sure that I read it in the same place I read about why Alice goes back to Wonderland, etc. So it could well be true.
:P Just adds to the creepiness I think.
It could be worse Breeno, at least it's not between Alice and the White Rabbit :? :shock: :wink:
Has anyone else seen the new trailer?
Here's the link if not....
http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/al ... edium.html (http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/aliceinwonderland/trailer_medium.html)
It looks completely amazing! :mrgreen:
:shock: I could like...die of happy at how Cheshire looks and sounds.
Stephen Fry, we are not worthy.
:D Trailer as a whole is incredible! :lol: The pig bit made me lol.
just seen the new trailer and cant wait to see the film!! pig scene made me laugh to :)
New video from Walt Disney Studios UK youtube channel:
[youtube:2vf6v0yw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hE3Vzhl7B4&feature=sub[/youtube:2vf6v0yw]
Apparently they'll be another video update next Wednesday.
I can't wait to see this movie! It still annoys me that it's just "Disney Alice in Wonderland", instead of "Walt Disney Pictures presents", even on the posters.
Does the management want to get rid of "Walt"? They did the same with "the Princess and the Frog" and "A Christmal Carol".
I know it is off topic, but Disney annoys me a liitle bit at the moment.
Whether this will come to anything I don't know, but it's interesting all the same. Disney trying to cut the release window of films from 17 weeks down to 12, and the cinemas aren't happy:
QuoteUK cinema chains may boycott Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland
The UK's biggest cinema chains are set to boycott Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, due out on 5 March, because of a dispute with Disney over the release window.
Disney wants to cut the gap between the theatrical opening and the DVD release to just 12 weeks, down from the standard 17 weeks. The big exhibitors refuse to book any film that doesn't have a guaranteed four-month theatrical run.
If neither side climbs down, the 3D film will not play at any Odeon, Vue or Cineworld site across the country, representing 95% of the UK's 3D screens.
That means Disney would forfeit a substantial amount of the film's projected £40m UK box-office gross. It will be tricky for the studio to explain that to Burton, who lives in London and shot Alice In Wonderland largely in Devon and Cornwall.
The film stars Johnny Depp, Mia Wasikowska and a largely British supporting cast, including Helena Bonham Carter, Matt Lucas, Stephen Fry, Michael Sheen, Alan Rickman, Christopher Lee and Barbara Windsor.
However, Disney said the royal charity premiere at the Odeon Leicester Square will go ahead regardless, because that isn't a commercial booking.
The studio previously attempted to shorten the theatrical run of Up in order to release the DVD before Christmas, but changed its mind after the exhibitors threatened to pull A Christmas Carol from their screens in retaliation.
This time, however, Disney has given the exhibitors advance warning of its intentions. A studio source described the 12-week deal as a "take it or leave it" proposition that is not up for negotiation.
Disney's distribution chiefs, Bob Chapek and Chuck Viane, have flown in from Hollywood to talk to British exhibitors over the next couple of days.
"We feel that it's important for us to maintain a healthy business on the exhibition side and a healthy business on the home video side... We remain committed to theatrical windows, with the need for exceptions to accommodate a shortened timeframe on a case-by-case basis, such as with Disney's Alice in Wonderland," said Chapek.
But sources say the studio is not offering more favourable revenue-sharing terms to tempt them to accept the shorter window. Odeon and Vue have already pulled all trailers and promotional materials for Alice in Wonderland from their cinemas, and have stopped selling advance tickets. Cineworld, as a public company, is taking a more cautious line and is still promoting Alice in Wonderland on its website, but is understood to be equally robust in its rejection of the shorter window.
Disney is also cutting the theatrical run for Alice in Wonderland in the US and Italy, where most exhibitors look likely to accept the studio's terms.
This is part of a global strategy by Disney CEO Bob Iger to shorten some of its theatrical releases, in a bid to maximise its home entertainment revenues, combat piracy and minimise its marketing costs.
The studio says that films take 97% of their box office in the first eight weeks of release, after which they largely disappear from cinemas. It argues that making consumers wait another two months before they can buy the DVD legitimately just presents the pirates with an "exclusive window."
Exhibitors counter that bringing forward the DVD release will reduce the audience appetite to see films on the big screen, which could lead to cinema closures, particularly in smaller towns.
Disney is using this summer's football World Cup as its pretext for cutting short Alice's theatrical run. It argues that audiences won't go to the cinema during the World Cup in their usual numbers, so it makes sense to pull Alice in Wonderland early.
But UK exhibitors argue that a family film such as Alice in Wonderland is less threatened by the World Cup than other titles.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb ... and-burton (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/feb/11/disney-alice-in-wonderland-burton%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Iger probably has a point, 17 weeks is just a bit too long. Although with this film being 3D and IMAX 3D and therefore not the same experience on DVD, it's strange they'd want to cut any box office time.
I doubt they'll boycott it, it's had too much advertising and press attention already.
I just deleted a topic i set up on another part of the forum as i found the same post here - thank goodness that my local here in Eastbourne is a cineworld, and i think Iger has a good point about cutting the timescales - i can also see it from the cinemas point of view, when they get a big film then it runs for weeks, Avatar is still selling out here and it nearly 8 weeks since it release isnt it???
Dutch cinemas are boycotting it too now...
It includes most of Europe's cinemas and US' largest cinemas.
I think Disney will set the DVD release date for at least 2 weeks later.
I just have to see this movie in IMAX 3D! :)
I just read on a Dutch site that Alice in Wonderland will be boycotted in cinema's through Europe. I tried to find an english article, and I found this one from the UK that sums up the problem:
http://www.filmshaft.com/uk-cinemas-cou ... onderland/ (http://www.filmshaft.com/uk-cinemas-could-boycott-alice-in-wonderland/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I really hope they work things out, I want to see it in the cinema!!!
:( I can't believe the cinemas have done this. When I went to see Princess and the Frog on Monday at the Odeon, everything was fine. They had AiW banners, posters, massive cardboard cutouts and of course the trailer. Then when I went to see Princess and the Frog again on Saturday, all of it was gone! I'm just praying that either Disney or the cinemas back down.
official comment from Disney:
dutch:
QuoteBelang
Distributeur Disney stelt in een reactie voorafgaand aan elke film zorgvuldig te bepalen wanneer een titel in de bioscoop en op dvd verschijnt. ''Ons belang is hetzelfde als dat van de bioscopen, namelijk een gezonde filmindustrie'', aldus een zegsvrouw.
Het bedrijf zegt onder meer vanwege de bedreiging van illegaal downloaden sommige films eerder op dvd uit te brengen. Disney is vooralsnog niet van plan de releasedata van Alice in Wonderland aan te passen.
source: nu.nl
Short english:
Disney says they want a healthy film industry. That's why they chose this release date.
Due to piracy/illegal downloads, they decided to release some movies earlier.
Disney will not change the release date for Alice in Wonderland.
Kenny
Actually I kind of understand both parts of this dispute. 12 weeks is a small period for the cinemas to make money on a movie, but on the other Disneys DVD and BluRay sale decreases for every week the pirates get to make copies.
My main support goes to Disney due to the fact that they have informed the cinemas about the sitaution a month in advance (or maybe more).
I just cross my fingers that the danish cinemas do not follow the british and dutch ones :)
oh i hope not i really wanted to see this.
I just watched the original one yesterday
id like to see a cinema show me which films they are showing 12 weeks after launch!!!!!!!!!!!! near enough none I guess - if you dont get in quick you normally miss it!
I'd have to agree with Disney about the 8 week revenue boom, a lot of cinemas take films off after about two months anyway for this very reason, sometimes even after a month depending. I'd say most people who want to watch a new film will have seen it within a month of it coming out on the big screen anyway.. :roll:
Seems to me as though it's more the Cinema's panicking about their own revenues on less people being there because of the earlier shut off period to buy those extra side orders and popcorn, not just tickets. Have you seen how much they charge for that stuff, talk about making money elsewhere. :roll: :roll:
I personally believe this would be a great investment on Disney's part and the anti-piracy lot at the BBFC, after all so many people are choosing pirate copies these days, and is it any wonder with cinema prices being so staggering, even wanted to try a new odeon in the north of England on Saturday, £10 for one ticket. This move should be understood by cinemas, and to be honest I believe it is ridiculous that the major chains are boycotting one of the highest anticipated films of the year. Oh well, at least here in Aberdeen, I can see it at the extremely cheap independent cinema for £3.70.
we have an independent cinema here in Eastbourne but they dont have 3D which kinda sucks as this was the first film my 80+ year old grandparents wanted to watch in 3D. Our local cineworld also has it as coming soon so hopefully they will show it and they have 3D so im keeping my fingers crossed. [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<
Cineworld are now taking bookings so looks like we will be fine here in Eastbourne - so my grandparents will get to see their first 3d film
edit - ive got my tickets we cant all wait :D/ :D/ :D/ :D/
In the UK, Cineworld cinemas have announced that they will show the film, Odeon have announced today that they will NOT show it, and Vue are still to decide :? I really didn't expect this to go so far!
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"In the UK, Cineworld cinemas have announced that they will show the film, Odeon have announced today that they will NOT show it, and Vue are still to decide :? I really didn't expect this to go so far!
Just think if Disney do the same with the Big Screen to DVD timescale thing with Toy Story 3 and every other release after that.. :roll:
We're having the same story here in the USA with the second largest theatre chain called AMC Theatres.
//http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20100211/ENTERTAINMENT-US-DISNEY/
Scroll down for more info.
Is this DVD release another stupid decision of Walt Disney Pictures new boss Rich Ross. I think Disney will change their strategy otherwise they will loose a lot of money.
Quote from: "AmericanMouse"We're having the same story here in the USA with the second largest theatre chain called AMC Theatres.
Funny to see it challenged by AMC, given their Downtown Disney locations.
What sucks now is that all of the IMAX cinemas in the UK except the BFI and various science museum screens are owned by Odeon (Cardiff, Manchester, Gateshead, two in London). Not much chance of IMAX 3D here then, unless that's being treated separately?
They're going to lose a lot of money. Aren't they worried people might end up preferring whatever cinema they visit instead?
Quote from: "Anthony"They're going to lose a lot of money. Aren't they worried people might end up preferring whatever cinema they visit instead?
You're hitting the nail right on the head there. We have an Odeon just down the road from us, and a Cineworld about 20 minute drive away. If I'm going to the cinema with friends we'll go to the Odeon for convenience, but as a family (a lot more especially now with the 3D charging extra) we will go to the Cineworld. Why? It is a lot cheaper for the same experience (possibly even better - choosing where you sit when you're in the theatre, more and bigger screens, etc). They've even got rid of charging for the 3D glasses with the ticket - take your own and you don't have to buy them (sold seperately for 80p). Odeon really are taking a huge risk with this film, good luck to them :wink:
One of Disney's main reasons for this calamity if you didn't already know was online downloads, since film makers lose lots of future money whilst a film is on at the cinema, people who don't visit the cinema download it, rather than wait a lengthy time for the DVD release, so by the time the DVD officially comes out they lose sales to people who have already downloaded it. So basically they are trying to cut the timescale down that people can download it to actually own it on DVD. 17 weeks is far too long for Disney, which is why they are trying to get it down to 12. This is the problem that all film makers in these times are having to face with the world of the internet and downloading.. :roll:
My question is why this film in particular, and will it only be for this one, or is this the start of a new trend by Disney.. :?:
Could this be the start of Disney buying a great amount of shares in particular cinema's and end up owning a monopoly of them.. :?:
Pause for thought.. :o
I've just read on a German website, that Alice in Wonderland will not be boycotted Germany, Austria, Portugal and Spain. The reason is that the DVD release will be after 17 weeks and not after 13 weeks like in the UK.
Here's a link, but it is in German:
http://www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/alic ... 83375.html (http://www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/alice-im-wunderland-kinokette-boykottiert-burton-film_aid_483375.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I'm actually very surprised the boycott in the UK is actually happening. At first I thought it'd be nothing more than a publicity stunt we now know it's official. A friend of mine who lives in Maidstone was telling me how the Odeon where she lives has no posters etc last week, this basically spelt confirmation for me. Does anyone know if the Irish Omniplex will be involved in this? As that's the only cinema in our town (which i might add is 3D-less :roll: ), i'm pretty sure that they aren't involved but my local cinema have a habit of for some reason not showing particular movies (The Damned United and Red Cliff being to most recent examples i can think of, i'm sure there's more recent though..)
Anyway in an attempt to move away from the boycott theme. IGN.com have an exclusive clip featuring the Cheshire Cat, voiced by Stephen Fry.
http://uk.movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14 ... Alice.html (http://uk.movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14219277/alice-in-wonderland/videos/Alice.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Hmmmm. Call me Mr. Negative but i don't think Fry's voice fits onto the cat at all. The cat looks too freakish and unpredictable to have a voice like his, just doesn't feel right to me.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I couldn't disagree more! That little clip has just had me squealing with joy! I think the voice suits Cheshire perfectly. Of course I still much prefer Sterling Holloway, since his voice was quite unique, but I still think Stephen Fry has done a fabulous job.
Oh quelle surprise, just in time... http://www.odeon.co.uk/miscellaneous/al ... erland.htm (http://www.odeon.co.uk/miscellaneous/aliceinwonderland.htm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
IMAX 3D here I come!! *empties bank account*
Now this clip is great - great voice acting by Mr. Fry, beautiful animations and some very funny moments.
The "I never get involved in politics" comment really made me laugh :)
I hope to see it on the premiere next thursday, but the tickets are still not for sale here in Aalborg yet :(
Now Belgium is also following... :roll:
:x :x :x :x
Good news! Odeon have announced today that they have abandoned the boycott after talks with Disney!! :D/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8536195.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8536195.stm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
You can watch live footage from the "Royal" World Premiere in London here: http://www.facebook.com/AliceInWonderla ... 6042644380 (http://www.facebook.com/AliceInWonderland?v=app_7146470109#!/AliceInWonderland?v=app_236042644380%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Cynical me notes how Odeon said strictly "no" yesterday and suddenly "yes" today, just in time for the premiere footage which has their logo (on Odeon Leicester Square) plastered all over it. The film has gained a huge amount of press here from the on/off cinema dispute. It's going to work out very well for everyone involved. The fact that it was not going to be shown and now - wow! - we can see it afterall! - should really get people excited about seeing it.
Quote from: "Anthony"Oh quelle surprise, just in time... http://www.odeon.co.uk/miscellaneous/al ... erland.htm (http://www.odeon.co.uk/miscellaneous/aliceinwonderland.htm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
IMAX 3D here I come!! *empties bank account*
Ooops, sorry, didn't see your post before I posted mine lol!!
I will definitely be seeing this in 3D, just need a willing volunteer to come with me now!!
In Belgium we sadly have little hope of seeing this movie because of the chains boycotting it and because we hardly have any indi cinemas left.
So far Kinepolis is "undecided", I'm hoping that they decide against the boycott in the end. It would be a good marketing move from them because they'll get all the customers that would have seen it somewhere else and make a good dime out of it.
I'm beyond enraged about the boycott, because I've been looking forward to the movie for MONTHS (well ever since it was announced actually).
Actually I'm looking into whether I can legally set up a protest action in Antwerp on the release day (March 10) but so far that sadly doesn't seem likely, so us poor Belgians can't even go protest the boycott!
lets hope they back down - they have here in the UK all chains are now showing the film - so i hope you get to see it in Belgium
Awesome - tickets booked for friday at 7pm - I cannot wait.. It will be the original voiced 2D version :-)
I really hope for you Hilde and everyone else who wants to see this but is hit by the boycot that a solution will be found as quick as possible :-)
Pathé (in The Netherlands) will show the movie, in Dutch, Dutch 3D, English 3D, and English IMAX 3D! :-)
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I booked my tickets for the 10th of March when the Dutch IMAX 3D version will premiere.
"Regular" Alice in Wonderland movie and 3D will premiere the 5th of March.
Kenny
:D Tickets booked for Friday at 5:15pm! We wanted to go all out, so we've paid to go see it in The Gallery! So excited!
IGN.com have released their UK review of the film. Sadly I can say that they weren't impressed. To summerise their review, they felt the visuals poor, the characters vary from ok to terrible and the story never really gets off it's feet. They gave it 2 stars out of 5 (4/10).
This is exactly what I was worrying about from day one, too much time reeling in the big names and less time working on the story and actually getting the cast to pull a good job. Also i've been watching a few videos and can't help but feel Johnny Depp's Mad Hatter is almost a carbon copy of his Willy Wonka. IGN said Depp would have much better suited the role of the Knave of Hearts.
Here is their review in full (NOTE: the start of the review does contain one or two spoilers ;) )
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Saw this film this afternoon and thought it was awesome, Loved the way he portrayed the mad hatter and the march hare always made me laugh hehehe All the characters were great and shall be going to see it again in a few weeks.
I've now returned from the cinema and ultimately I was amazed. It is not a true masterpiece and not Burton's best movie, but you still leave the cinema wowed, entertained and enchanted.
Let's start of with the negative, which in my opinion is the story-telling which lacks a bit - it takes some funny jumps in action and probably could have had 20 minutes more to add to the story, but the visuality and not at least the magnificent set of characters makes you forget this fact and I actually do believe that is what happened to Tim Burton too. His work and thoughts were spend on other parts of the movie and you can see that.
I watched it in 2D, but still the visuals impressed me with their imagination, beauty and the technical immersiveness - once Alice goes down the rabbit hole you follow her and the cinema is transformed into Underland even though it isn't 3D. Me and my friend actually agreed that it seemed like the film contained some moments which would be rather cheasy and theme-park-like in 3D, so we were happy that we chose the 2D version.
And now for the main reason to watch the film in my opinion - THE LOVELY CAST OF CHARACTERS:
(I've made it a spoiler, because some of the descriptions of the actors' performances might contain spoilers)
[spoiler:1xd22gz8]Mia Wasikowska as Alice - She actually does a great job in my opinion. She plays a beautiful and strong Alice and she brings some sanity to the cast in her own mad and innocent way
Johnny Depp as The Mad Hatter - With the posters, trailers and so on he has been made into the reason to watch this film - he is not in my opinion. That doesn't meen he does a bad job though - he is brilliant and I couldn't see any other actor playing the part - he is just not as good as previously or some of the other actors.
Helena Bonham-Carter as the Red Queen - Great! She is crazy, "frigthening" and funny at the same time. She always performs at a high quality - just like Depp and I would say that they both do a pretty good job in this.
Anne Hathaway as the White Queen - Hmm, I actually like her as an actress, but this didn't work for me. Her part was overdone and she seemed a bit out of place. Rather forgettable and boring performance.
Crispin Glover as the Knave of Hearts - Same story as Anne Hathaway. At sometimes he seemed a bit too light for the part as one of the villains. He just didn't fright enough...
Matt Lucas as the Twins - :lol: extremely funny as always. Some very amusing scenes and also some great character design. I loved how they reminded me of Tim Burton's Sad Toys.
Stephen Fry as the Cheshire Cat - worth every penny of the ticket! He stole every scene he appeared in and was truly enchanting. His part should be shown to every Voice Actor as he really ACTED with his voice. =D>
Michael Sheen as the White Rabbit - A pretty good performance, but also a lovely character. All in all I suppose it wouldn't be the performance to remember though.
Alan Rickman as the Caterpillar - Just as Stephen Fry, Mr. Rickman performed pure magic in his scenes. He also succeded in doing voice acting with capital A. Brilliant job as always!
Barbara Windsor as Doormouse - Actually quite funny, but perhaps a bit like the White Rabbit not the one you will remember in the long run. Still great character.
Paul Whitehouse as the March Hare - For me this was the funniest character of the movie and Paul Whitehouse, who I do not know, cracked me up with his wonderful accent and hysterical voice acting.
Timothy Spall as Bayard - A very good performance too and he actually touched me emotionally at some points, which animated dogs rarely do to me ;)
Cristopher Lee as the Jabberwocky - He is almost as certain in a Burton movie as Depp and Bonham-Carter and eventhough he only had 2-3 lines in the end he managed to burn his way into your memory of the movie, and that is the stamp of the work of a true master of the arts. This man is a legend![/spoiler:1xd22gz8]
I have to say - everyone should go and see the movie. If not for anything else then to be enchanted by the amazing performances from Stephen Fry and Alan Rickman and the imaginative visuals created by Tim Burton and his wonderful team of set designers, wardrobers, make-up artists and of course special effects guys.
[spoiler:1xd22gz8]The only thing which was completely out of place and actually pretty stupid in my eyes was the scene with the Futterwacken. The music and some of the dance moves was just too much for me - I really liked the scene where Alice did the dance in front of the aristocracy - that seemed more in place and subtle.[/spoiler:1xd22gz8]
we went last night and the queues were amazing, we went as mature family ( 6 of us ranging from 30 - 88 ) and everyone loved it, there were laughs along the way and my dad loved the March hare - go see it. My grandma who is 88 said the reviews didnt do it justice
Did we see the same film? I thought it was absolutely terrible !! The script was a mess, the dialogue was choppy at best, and *sigh* Johnny Depp was annoying at best.
One of the few saving graces was the Anne Hathaway and Helen Bonam Carter, both with terrific performances. Plus some extremely impressie cinematography during the Jabberwokey fight.
I am realy disappointed. I love Johnny Depp, I love Tim Burton, and I love Disney so this should have been a match made in heaven. But I'm afraid I'll stick to the animated classic (and so will my daughter who was completely bored)
3/10 :(
Lol, looks like you're the one who went to see that wrong film Pete's Dragon. You and certain reviews haven't given it enough credit. Personally I was never expecting it to be the best film I've ever seen, I was simply expecting it to be a very good Tim Burton film, which it was in my opinion. I thought the acting (and voice acting) was great, the look and style of it was beautiful and the story itself was pretty good.
I few things annoyed me here and there (the Dormouse was very annoying to me, as was the Mad Hatter when he started talking with a Scottish/Irish accent). Other than that though, I was very impressed. :D Couldn't have been happier with Stephen Fry's performance as Cheshire, and I thought everyone else did a very good job as well. :lol: I found the March Hare and the Gnave of Hearts hilarious. So yes, all in all I was very happy with the film. Like I said, it wasn't the best thing I've ever seen, but I never expected it to be.
I went longing to love it, but thinking I would be disappointed based on a few reviews. Thankfully I loved it and agree with Johnathan Ross when he praised it and said that film making technology has finally caught up with Tim Burtons imagination. Jonny Depp and Helena B Carter stole the show for me, give two performances that we full of witty oneliners and fantastc imagary.
My only niggle is again the effect 3d has on my enjoyment of the movie. The glasses irritate me and the grey lense dull the image to the degree that some of the fantastic detail is not visable. Having caught trailers in HD, I kinda think this will look better on Blu Ray, giving another chance to admire the detail and submerse myself in Tim Burtons wild imagination!
Great great film
Went to see it last night. I wasn't sure what to expect with this one, thinking of the clips I'd seen of it and being directed by Tim Burton. All I can say is that I got more than I expected, the effects are brilliant, and without given too much away a lot of the sizing and facial features must have been a nightmare to do. I would not of though that this was an easy film to make, even on the computer side of things. :o
Love the characters in this film, which also have a lot of high profile voices to go with them. This film is definitely worth seeing at the Cinema and a definite DVD purchase, and as we all know, we'll not have long to wait for that one.. :mrgreen:
Once again Johhny Depp played a masterpiece in his role as the Mad Hatter, he makes the character his own as he always does in any role he plays.. :D
If you are expecting unusual looking characters and scenery, then you'll be right at home watching this film, cannot be mistaken for anything but a Tim Burton film.. :wink: =D>
I loved it too! I agree the script isn't as good as the effects, but I got so lost in that beautiful wonderland that I didn't really mind. Helena Bonham-Carter played her role very well, she was hilarious. The Mad Hatter has become sort of a mix of Johnny Depp's previous characters, but I still liked it, he's great at weird parts. Alan Rickman's voice fitted the part of Absolom brilliantly and the March Hare is just funny. The mouse didn't really annoy me, but I could've lived without her, and Anne Hathaway could've played her part better I think.
And the 3D glasses also annoyed me, I would have loved the movie without 3D too.
I'm going to see it on Wednesday when it comes out in Belgium.
My only regret is that the local theatre is only showing it in 3D (which I HATE, I HATE wearing glasses over my glasses) but oh well, it's that or nothing.
At least they are showing it now, instead of boycotting it like they were intending at first.
And here's the North American Box Office for the first weekend: US $41 million on Friday (3/5), and US $118.1 million for the first weekend (3/5-7), smashing the records set by 300.
I saw it last Weds with my friend Sam (in 3D alas, as neither of the cinemas local-ish to us have it in 2D) and we LOVED it. Seriously it was an awesome film. If it weren't so damned expensive to see it in 2D I'd go see it again. I'll definitely buy it on DVD when it's released :)
Tim Burton and actress Marion Cotillard are honoured with France's cultural awards! :-)
We saw the movie in 3D yesterday in English. While I loved it, my girlfriend was a little bit disappointed. In some parts I have to agree with her, for example we think that if Tim Burton had done the movie for another studio than Disney it would have been darker and better.
The 3D effects were fine, but not as good as in Avatar. I think that's because Avatar was filmed in 3D while Alice received the effects after filming.
So if you haven't seen it, go and watch it!
I saw Alice in Wonderland the other week in 3D. I loved it! But then I also wish it had ended differently.
Indeed the design was awe-inspiring, jack-smacklingly original and futterwackingly fantastical, but it wasnt the best of Burtons films.
Call me picky, but I didnt like the way he gave all the charcters other names (eg the Dormouse with Malmykin, or something). They were confusing and unmemorable, and were more like random words tossed into the conversation.
I also felt that he sacraficed a lot of his own style and feel in order to try and get it successful. It felt he was conforming to ideas set by other blockbusters, just to get it to be popular, eg the big King Kong style Jabberwock battle and the showdown between the Chess Set and the Deck, that looked more at home in Lord of the Rings. Everything up to these points I LOVED.
Johnny Depp was, in my opinion, entertaining. He brought little new to the role, and it felt like he was just regurgitating his previous roles in a Glaswegian accent.
Helena Bonham Carter and Anne Hathaway were stunning. Remarkle. Loved them.
Alice was fine - it would have been nice if they made her a bit more unique, as opposed to the 'feels out of place, very pretty, perfect, and going to save the day' stereotype that seems to keep cropping up in todays films.
If anything, I think an original idea and a smaller budget helps Tim Burton's films.
Just my mere opinions... I write reviews for a local theatre, and I suppose things got out of hand :P