Today Disneyland Paris announced that they will completely revamp the Walt Disney Studios Park!
The biggest focus points will be adding a Star Wars Land, a Marvel Land and a Frozen Land.
Also will Tower of Terror remain the same (no GOTG overlay), will it get a massive lake (let's hope for World of Color or Fantasmic), a new ride in Toy Story Playland, a new look for Studio 1 and a new parade route.
This is the best news that Disneyland Paris could've ever given us!
Even if you don't like Star Wars, Frozen or Marvel, you can't deny that this is much needed.
Walt Disney Studios Park now is the laughing stock of the Disney Parks.
But soon, it'll be one of (if not the) best!
It's a 2 BILLON euro investment and the biggest renewal/expansion project in Disney Parks history!
Works will start in 2021, and will be done in phases.
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Video of the concept art:
Video of Bob Iger himself, announcing the plans: https://twitter.com/Elysee/status/968482587038666753
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Read more:
- 2bn euros to transform Walt Disney Studios Park: new Star Wars, Marvel, Frozen lands announced (http://www.dlptoday.com/2018/02/27/2bn-euros-to-transform-walt-disney-studios-park-new-star-wars-marvel-frozen-lands-announced/)
- Bob Iger and Emmanuel Macron discuss biggest ever Disneyland Paris investment (http://www.dlptoday.com/2018/02/28/bob-iger-and-emmanuel-macron-discuss-biggest-ever-disneyland-paris-investment/)
- All Walt Disney Studios Park Expansion news... (http://www.dlptoday.com/news/walt-disney-studios-park/wds-expansion/)
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This is such great news!!! ☺️☺️☺️☺️
Ooooooh, I'm all excited even though it could be 5-10 years before its finished. I take it the Tram Tour is getting shunted again?
Quote from: Pete's Dragon on February 27, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
Ooooooh, I'm all excited even though it could be 5-10 years before its finished. I take it the Tram Tour is getting shunted again?
Studio Tram Tour will be removed.
Not keen on star wars, don't like marvel at all but this is fantastic news! About time, the only thing is I hope it doesn't price a lot of people out Disney.
Quote from: DLPWonders on February 27, 2018, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: Pete's Dragon on February 27, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
Ooooooh, I’m all excited even though it could be 5-10 years before its finished. I take it the Tram Tour is getting shunted again?
Studio Tram Tour will be removed.
All of it, even the splashy, water earthquake bit ( as you can tell the proper name escapes me :-) )
Quote from: Pete's Dragon on February 27, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
All of it, even the splashy, water earthquake bit ( as you can tell the proper name escapes me :-) )
You might want to take a look at the concept art to understand what's happening haha.
Yes, all of it. About 90% of the Studios will be completely removed, rebuild and rethemed.
Quote from: Zee79 on February 27, 2018, 04:54:28 PM
Not keen on star wars, don't like marvel at all but this is fantastic news! About time, the only thing is I hope it doesn't price a lot of people out Disney.
You can bet that this will happen. US quality means US prices.
I'm expecting the Infinity price to raise to 1000€ (if not over it).
Hot damn, that's amazing news! Just a shame that it's going to take so long for this stuff to actually open.
Quote from: Nioli on February 27, 2018, 05:38:44 PM
Hot damn, that's amazing news! Just a shame that it's going to take so long for this stuff to actually open.
It takes years to build this. That's normal for any theme park in the world.
Don't forget that it will be pretty much an entirely new park.
This is what we've been waiting for since the 20th anniversary.
Well worth the wait.
Only fear I have is that the castle park will feel hopelessly outdated if they don't add something over there.
Who knows what more surprises Bob Iger holds up his sleeve. ;D
^ They've just announced a much needed 2 billion euro revamp of the worst Disney park worldwide and you want MORE surprises? Calm down tiger :P
There will probably be something new in the future.
But Disneyland Park looks fine as it is and doesn't needed anything more right now.
WDS needs it more than any Disney park in the world.
And Disneyland Park recently received a complete repolish, Hyperspace Mountain, Star Wars 2, Illuminations and Stars on Parade. They can go on for a while ;)
Words cannot explain how hyped I am! (Mainly over Tower staying TOT!!!)
I was cautiously optimistic to begin with; afterall, our Toy Story area is pretty rubbish, really. However, after reading that they will be making changes there to and adding a new ride, it makes me so hopeful!
As WDW and DCA's Galaxy's Edges are the exact same size (so I'm assuming replicas? I'm not sure?), I hope Paris will be the same size and not a smaller version, as we usually get.
I hope now that Disney are making changes we'll get more merchandise (I'll be so gutted if we aren't overwhelmed with Phantom Manor merch when it reopens!!).
Wow wow wow. This is fantastic news! Not only is the park/resort getting the attention it needs, but also three major lands in the process.
Glaxay's Edge looks great, so I don't care it's a clone. The Marvel Land is an unknown (probably a clone of the plan for DCA), but it's bound to be good. And the Frozen Land should have been a Port in TDS and/or HKDL, so you can only imagine how awesome that will be.
I honestly don't mind any of these additions.
EDIT: And how about that lake? As the OP said, let's hope for Fantasmic! or «Monde de Couleur».
Quote from: DLPWonders on February 27, 2018, 06:59:46 PM
^ They've just announced a much needed 2 billion euro revamp of the worst Disney park worldwide and you want MORE surprises? Calm down tiger :P
Yes. I know it sounds ungrateful (not sure if we need to be grateful for a company fixing something that was obviously broken for years). But the castle park hasn't received a new addition since 1995 (Space Mountain). Only updates not adding to capacity. I stand by my remark that it will feel outdated next to the obviously amazing studio's. The normal visitor doesn't share the same sense of nostalgia like us fans have ;)
And yes. I'm very excited about whats happening to the studios. Especially the addition of a proper lake. Which will completely change the feel of the park.
^I see your point. Makes me think that Frozenland should have been added to Parc Disneyland.
The Main Park is absolutely amazing as it is. It's a great experience and is still getting refurbs (new PM, new theatre). It'll be great to see new things added in the future but it's not essential.
According to more info things will start opening from 2020 and building will being this year (although the 2020 opening is likely the refurb HNY as Marvel, lands etc won't open until after that).
Quote from: claire2281 on February 28, 2018, 08:20:07 AM
The Main Park is absolutely amazing as it is. It's a great experience and is still getting refurbs (new PM, new theatre). It'll be great to see new things added in the future but it's not essential.
According to more info things will start opening from 2020 and building will being this year (although the 2020 opening is likely the refurb HNY as Marvel, lands etc won't open until after that).
And the building this year also sounds fancier than it is haha!
CineMagique Theatre will open this year with the Marvel show, so that's already one thing.
And the thing that they will begin with, is the retheming of Rock 'n Rollercoaster to an Iron Man theme.
They're going to start this year, and the simple retheme is opening next year Summer.
It takes them a year to just retheme a current attraction.
The actual building of proper Marvel Land will take a few years.
will crush's coaster stay?
Quote from: cjebs on February 28, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
will crush's coaster stay?
The concept art says it all ;)
Yes, Crush's Coaster is on the other side of the park.
Quote from: DLPWonders on February 28, 2018, 07:10:18 PM
Quote from: cjebs on February 28, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
will crush's coaster stay?
The concept art says it all ;)
Yes, Crush's Coaster is on the other side of the park.
im bad at reading the concept art all teh building look the same ;D
Still can't believe this amazing news, a couple of days later and it still hasn't sunk in. This is beyond what I ever hoped would happen for the park. I've been to Tokyo DisneySea, which blew my mind, and it now feels like Paris could have an incredible park to rival it!! Best of all, there should be so many unique attractions and imagineering features. We can all be patient and wait as long as it takes for this awesomeness to come about....
I'm intrigued about that large amount of green space (which looks like it's where Reign of Fire currently is. Certainly looks like an expansion pad. It can't be very big in reality, so I doubt it'd be another land, but it certainly could host another attraction.
Anyone know if Restaurant des Stars/Blockbuster Cafe is going? It'd make sense to use that for more Marvel attractions.
Downside is that they'd loose a food service location... which makes me wonder if they plan to add some eateries to that green expansion pad.
Great news :) the concept art looks incredible. I'm not a BIG fan of Marvel, Star Wars or Frozen BUT I can definitely see. Why these 3 have been picked and it's a smart move from Disney, it's definitely going to bring in a wider audience, new visitors and ones that haven't been for some time.
Like many of us here I'm a big fan I love WDS but the tram tour needed to go or be completely overhauled although my son loves it and it is wheelchair accessible!
One of my thoughts was I wonder if the wait times for rides such as Crushs coaster will continue to have long waits once all the new attractions open? It gets incredibly busy around that area! I can't wait to see what's in store.
Also with the Paramount studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move. I don't know how many people have said to me "you won't bother with Disneyland Paris when that's open" >:( so annoying no park will ever stop me visiting dlp I have been for 20 years of my life now and it's charm and beauty and cast members always keep me coming back.
It's brilliant news it really is
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 03, 2018, 02:04:03 AM
Also with the Paramoung studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move.
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Quote from: Rocketeer on March 02, 2018, 02:17:13 PM
Anyone know if Restaurant des Stars/Blockbuster Cafe is going? It'd make sense to use that for more Marvel attractions.
Downside is that they'd loose a food service location... which makes me wonder if they plan to add some eateries to that green expansion pad.
Oh I wouldn't worry about that. If there is one thing that the WDC is good at. It's getting people to spend their money. I'm pretty sure the focus of the studios will be much more on food and merch ;D
Quote from: claire2281 on March 03, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Agreed. And even if it was, this plan for WDS 2.0 is really going to take the wind out of their sails.
Quote from: mickey1980 on March 03, 2018, 11:25:41 AM
Oh I wouldn't worry about that. If there is one thing that the WDC is good at. It's getting people to spend their money. I'm pretty sure the focus of the studios will be much more on food and merch ;D
Haha yeah, very true.
I don't know what eateries they could offer for Marvel land though. Delicacies from Wakanda and Sokovia? ;)
Quote from: claire2281 on March 03, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 03, 2018, 02:04:03 AM
Also with the Paramoung studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move.
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Even if it does happen which won't be before the new WDS is done it isn't even paramount anymore as they announced a few months ago they were no longer going to be part of the park
Quote from: ChipandDale99 on March 03, 2018, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: claire2281 on March 03, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 03, 2018, 02:04:03 AM
Also with the paramount studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move.
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Even if it does happen which won't be before the new WDS is done it isn't even paramount anymore as they announced a few months ago they were no longer going to be part of the park
Oh I did not know this! Interesting
Quote from: claire2281 on March 03, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 03, 2018, 02:04:03 AM
Also with the Paramoung studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move.
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Oh well I suppose I'll let me dad know he doesn't live far from where it's meant to be being built and keeps going on about it lol not sure when things changed least we have our amazing Disney park/s
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 04, 2018, 01:22:08 AM
Quote from: claire2281 on March 03, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: littlebitofpixiedust on March 03, 2018, 02:04:03 AM
Also with the Paramoung studios opening in the UK in a few years from now I think this is a smart move.
Tbh as things stand it doesn't seem like that will happen now.
Oh well I suppose I'll let me dad know he doesn't live far from where it's meant to be being built and keeps going on about it lol not sure when things changed least we have our amazing Disney park/s
I live down in Kent too and with Paramount having pulled out it's effectively put the kibosh on the whole thing. Pretty much the only studio that would have the franchises to make it work are Universal and there hasn't seemingly been a sniff of interest from them.
All looks really exciting. It's great they are making good use of Marvel, there's a lot of IPs from Disney that are totally underused so it's good that this and Star wars are being milked for all they are worth.
The only thing I would like them to accommodate is an updated version of Disney Junior live and stitch. These are pretty important for the younger audience which I fear wouldn't be served as well by Marvel. At least they could essentially rebuild those two anywhere else, especially Disney junior. They don't seem to be particularly tricky show buildings.
Assuming Motor's Action is for the chop too which is a shame although it's long past its prime but hopefully they can replace it with a similar marvel theme show, above the planned indoor one. Car stunts are good fun and it eats up loads of people.
Interesting point on the TV/Disney Jr. building. I'd be surprised if it remains as it is, let alone keeping the show where it is. Stitch would really seem out of place in Marvel Land.
I'm sure they could accommodate the show - or even something similar over in Toon Studios.*cough* Art of Animation *cough*. Quesion is, which character could they replace Stitch with?
As for Moteurs, it's a curious one. I can't see it staying long term, and I can't see why they'd keep it if they put another stunt show in Studio 2. Sure it seems to be still there in the concept art, but it's vague for a reason.
Maybe it'll be a later stage project - if you combine Moteurs and the Reign of Fire set, that's a good chunk of land that is probably the expansion pad to the left of what I'm calling the "Avenue de l'arbre" that takes you to the lake.
If not for another land, then certainly for an expansion of Marvel Land.
Tbh id hope theyd keep stiych even if its moved somewhere else. Its never been empty and we do it multiple times each visit
Once the new Chaparral Theatre is up and running it may be able to accommodate more shows. Depends on the setting and stage arrangements I guess.
Quote from: Rocketeer on March 03, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
I don't know what eateries they could offer for Marvel land though. Delicacies from Wakanda and Sokovia? ;)
Shawarma :P
^Oh how could I forget that! haha
OK then.. what do we all think will be done to Studio One?
Certainly the entrance and egress areas needs widening - possibly by just removing the smaller doors and having a few larger ones.
What of inside? Keep it the same or spruce it up a bit?
While I like the inside of Studio One it doesnt make for a great entrance to the park. Going from outside to inside then back into the sunlight. Maybe a glass roof along the centre to brighten things up? Almost like a covered version of Main St.
Though i dont mind the complete indoor section a glass roof wouldn't be too bad an idea, unless its a pain to clean with rain and bird poop.
I think sprucing up the dining options for it would be the best option for it. I've always through that a second floor for studio 1 would that had a restaurant or bar to over look the park would be a nice touch. Also add a mickey meet and greet like they have in fantasy land.
I quite like the covered starlit sky wouldn't want that to change but yes more dining options will definately have to be offered throught the new lands. I don't think that Mickey will have a regular meet in the Studios...can't be in two places at the same time!😉. I think there will be plenty of new character opportunities in the 3 new lands. Looking forward to the changes maybe it will entice me back after all?
Coverting the roof to a clear canopy could work. Probably not glass though, might be pricey plus it can amplify the noise - an issue with World Bazaar in Tokyo Disneyland.
https://youtu.be/Ngsm5Su-mC4?t=8s
However, there are plenty of clear fabric alternatives -for example, the biomes of the Eden Project.
I think the traffic volume is still going to be something that needs addressing. Imagine everyone leaving the lakefront after the night time spectacular, then having to funnel through Studio 1. That is, unless they make two bypasses either side.
So will the SW stuff from DLP move into WDSP? I can't make out much from the concept art...
And if not, why not?
Completely agree that Frozen Land belongs in DLP...
OR....and this isn't my opinion, but are they worried that people will see DLP as a "girls park" and WDSP as a "boys park"?
Quote from: Rocketeer on March 04, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Quesion is, which character could they replace Stitch with?
NONE!
I need my cute, cuddly, blue alien fix
Quote from: Thaliel on March 18, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Rocketeer on March 04, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Quesion is, which character could they replace Stitch with?
NONE!
I need my cute, cuddly, blue alien fix
I second this motion. How very dare they take Stitch away. "Meega, nala kwishta!"
Quote from: Pete's Dragon on March 18, 2018, 07:16:28 PM
I second this motion. How very dare they take Stitch away. "Meega, nala kwishta!"
Totally agree -SAVE STITCH!
That would be easy to transfer though? Maybe the discoveryland theatre?
Quote from: Bellefan on March 15, 2018, 05:07:11 PM
So will the SW stuff from DLP move into WDSP? I can't make out much from the concept art...
It's unlikely that Star Tours will be relocated. Galaxy's Edge Lite appears to have just the Millienium Falcon attraction - but that could change - just not with Star Tours in mind. They'll probably have an expansion pad for the land to add Battlestar Escape at a later date.
Quote from: Bellefan on March 15, 2018, 05:07:11 PM
And if not, why not?
Cost mainly. I doubt they would move the existing attraction - especially as its still in good order. The €2.5bn would be better spent on the new attractions.
They can go with the angle that Star Tours can take you on a trip to a destination, whereas SW:GE is partly
the destination.
However, that's not to say I think it should stay long term. There's plenty they can do with the land in that area of Discoveryland.
Quote from: Bellefan on March 15, 2018, 05:07:11 PM
OR....and this isn't my opinion, but are they worried that people will see DLP as a "girls park" and WDSP as a "boys park"?
Well if they are, that's very short sighed of them. If anything they might want to promote the thrill ride aspect of WDS more.
I think the reason that Frozenland is going in WDS is not to balance out demographics - it's just down to space. Parc Disneyland probably doesn't have enough space for what they want to accomplish.
Sort of related. It's been announced that DCA will also get a Marvel Land by '20. Guess they're able to save some by building it in bulk.
QuoteThe California Adventure expansion will open to guests in phases starting in 2020, with even more new experiences to follow.
The Guardians of the Galaxy will be joined by Spider-Man and the Avengers in what will become a completely immersive Super Hero universe. This new land will be anchored the popular Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT!, with new additions in the adjacent space that is currently occupied by "a bug's land." "It's Tough to Be a Bug" closed forever on March 19th to make way for this new heroic experience, the rest of the land will close late in 2018.
https://wdwnt.com/2018/03/breaking-marvel-themed-land-announced-for-disneyland-resort-a-bugs-land-will-close-soon/
Rumour - a WDS version of the Blue Sky Cellar (DCA's preview centre) coming to the park..
Quotea Blue Sky Disney area apparently will be created, using the post-show room of The Art of Animation attraction. It's of course not yet official, it might take at least one more year before the transformation of the post-show room begin, and questions also remain about the Art of Animation attraction itself as guests exit the attraction precisely through this post-show room.
Disney & More
For those who may not be familiar with the attraction, it's a showcase for upcoming works at the Disneyland Resort. The name and theming come from it being hosting in part of the Golden Vine Winery attraction.
Here's a video of one of the recent exhibits in the Cellar. Note that the theming will certainly change for WDS.
https://youtu.be/yFy1h6D9Kn8
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The majority of this sounds amazing. I'm a huge Star Wars nut (also, I acted in Rogue One! Had 2 lines :P ) so the Star Wars stuff is very welcome - been longing to see it all at Florida, so to have it replicated clsoer to home will be a dream come true.
I'm intregued by the Frozen land and wonder what attractions will be there? The Frozen ride in Epcot is brilliant from a tech/animatronics perspective.
I have no objection to more Marvel themed stuff as long as they leave Tower of Terror alone.
I don't want to lose the post show of Art of Animation, its one of my favorite parts of the whole park. And if they remove Stitch, it darn well better be to add a bigger and better Stitch themed attraction! I need my little cuddly blue alien fix! (was gutted to not get to see the Stitch attraction in Florida, it kept being shut every time we were in MK :( )
Quote from: samuelvictor on May 21, 2018, 08:38:59 AM
I'm intregued by the Frozen land and wonder what attractions will be there? The Frozen ride in Epcot is brilliant from a tech/animatronics perspective.
I have no objection to more Marvel themed stuff as long as they leave Tower of Terror alone.
I'm quite intrigued by the Frozen land. As much as I strongly disliked the film, the setting of the Kingdom of Arendelle sounds absolutely ideal for a land. Also unlikely to happen, but I'd love for the mountain to be used for a European version of Expedition Everest.
And regarding what you say about the Marvel land, I agree with you. I'm a huge Marvel fan, so I'm more excited about the Marvel Land than any of the other lands, but I don't want them to touch Tower Of Terror. Although I believe Disney backed off of re-theming the Tower Of Terror in Orlando due to the backlash after the DCA re-theme, so maybe the Paris one is safe too.
Quote from: MildlyArtistic on May 21, 2018, 11:14:38 AM
Although I believe Disney backed off of re-theming the Tower Of Terror in Orlando due to the backlash after the DCA re-theme, so maybe the Paris one is safe too.
Oh, that's good news. It was definitely still ToT when I was in Orlando in January, hope it stays that way.
I'd imagine the current look of the Tower is also better suited to projection shows than the DCA mess.
As for Frozenland attractions, well HKDL is getting a 'Wandering Oaken Sleigh Coaster' in '21/'22. Apparently it will be similar to the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (MK/SDL).
Nothing confirmed for Paris, but I'd imagine that it's a safe bet for now.
They were due to have a 'dancing sleigh' attraction - which the coaster has replaced. I doubt that Paris would get that either, as it is similar to the Alien Spinner attraction suggested to be heading for Toy Story Playland.
Quote from: Rocketeer on May 28, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
I'd imagine the current look of the Tower is also better suited to projection shows than the DCA mess.
I certainly hope they feel this way too ;)
Hmm, I googled a bit, and yes from the concept art for the HKDL one it does look similar to Seven Dwarves Minetrain. I didn't mind that ride in Florida, but would have preferred more animatronics scenes. The big bit in the middle was great, but for the rest of the ride it didn't feel all that heavily themed to be honest. Just a couple more story areas, like how Splash Mountain breaks it up, and I would have been more impressed.
Paris already has 2 mine-train style coasters with Thunder Mountain and Indiana Jones, so I hope they add a lot of Frozen theming, characters and story if they do go with this route. As I said, I thought the animatronics and story telling of the Frozen ride in Epcot were top notch, possibly the best in all the Orlando parks.
Good points on the AAs for the Mine Train. At a guess, I'd imagine that the interior portion will feature the Rock Trolls and if we're lucky Krisotff and Sven. The finale will probably have Oaken in some form. Just swtich out the Dwarfs Cottage for his Trading Post and "Oooh hooo" there he appears. :D
As for the other attractions, at least they're both in a different park. HK however has Big Grizzly Mt. which is not a million miles from the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Although it's more of a thrill ride, whearas 7DMT is a little tamer.
https://youtu.be/KjNIrMMkiiE
Hmm yeah that Grizzly mountain is very similar to both 7 Dwarves and Big Thunder but of course with the reverse and speed up near the end. Looks like a fun ride, but again from a themin perspective its a bit samey and hardly any AAs.
I don't want to give the impression that I didn't like the 7 Dwarves Minetrain, it was cool, but its just that after being hugely impressed with recent AAs in Frozen Ever After and Little Mermaid, and also finaly experiening Splash Mountain for the first time (it was my first proper visit to Flordia) it felt a little underwhelming from a purely "Disney" standpoint.
Well think of it another way, the 7D Mine Train / Oaken's Coaster might not have many AAs, but you can bet that there'll be plenty in the main Frozen attraction. I don't think they've given any details on the HK version yet, but I can't see the coaster being the only ride. And the Norway Pavillion attraction is an overlay on the existing track, so not a huge amount of space.
Therefore, 'Frozen: The Ride' is bound to be laden with characters, and certainly more of a showpiece than the coaster.
I certainly hope so, that sounds great :) I'm also glad they are planning a lake, I think the Studios Park is sorely lacking water to its landscaping atm.
Agreed, it needs more landscaping to balance out the acres of concrete in the place.
I've still got my doubts that the lake will be as big as the concept art shows though.
Have to say that as a movie i also am not that crazy about frozen . However the idea of being immersed in that world has me very excited . Not that much excitement from me at the minute for Marvel Land but ill wait and see what rides get announced for it apart from Iron man.
Tokyo DisneySea have (once again) announced they're expanding with their own Arendelle. Sounds like they're getting a Maelstrom/Frozen Ever After-ride: http://attractionsmagaznine.com/tokyo-disneysea-expansion-2022/ (http://attractionsmagaznine.com/tokyo-disneysea-expansion-2022/)
Maybe this is a hint of what we can expect in the new WDS-Land as well?
A proposed plan of the WDS expansion seems to be doing the rounds now.
via Disney&More, the details in short..
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2018/07/dlp-walt-disney-studios-latest.html
Backlot
The Tram Tour is staying for now. Potential new station location is near Place de Remy.
A replica of the Cozy Cone Motel (found in Cars Land) is also speculated for this area.
Marvel Land (c. 2020/21)
No new occupant for the Armageddon building for now. (It will remain closed).
Marvel Stunt Show replaces Moteurs...Action!
Toy Story Playland
Alien Swirling Saucers maybe off, or delayed.
Studio Lake (c.2021/22?)
The lake could be the same size as that of TDS, with tiered paths/viewing area similar to DCA.
Potential for some restaurants on the waterfront.
Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge (c.2024)
Main and only attraction could be the E-ticket "Battle Escape" (the one where they're constructing the full size AT-ATs in the US parks).
Frozenland (c.2022/23)
A E-ticket is planned, but potentially no Sleigh Coaster like HKDL.
2024 and beyond..
Land adjascent to the Tram Tour has potential for further expansion. Carsland and Pandora could be in Phase II - or maybe something else entirely.
(All rumour until confirmed)
There's a rumour doing the rounds that EPCOT will get a nighttime parade to replace IllumiNations. It's supposed to be partly on the walkways of the World Showcase, and in part on the lagoon (a la the Electrical Water Pageant).
Makes me wonder though.. it could also be something they're working on for the Studios Lake. OK, the theme would be completely different, but think World of Color meets the EWP with Marvel and Star Wars elements. And voila... WDS' night time spectacular.
Quote from: Rocketeer on July 22, 2018, 09:33:47 PM
There's a rumour doing the rounds that EPCOT will get a nighttime parade to replace IllumiNations. It's supposed to be partly on the walkways of the World Showcase, and in part on the lagoon (a la the Electrical Water Pageant).
Makes me wonder though.. it could also be something they're working on for the Studios Lake. OK, the theme would be completely different, but think World of Color meets the EWP with Marvel and Star Wars elements. And voila... WDS' night time spectacular.
This might be a little far-fetched, but what if they shipped the entire IllumiNations-show to DLP? ;D
Anyway, whatever they're planning on the WDS lake, a show simular to World of Color is most likely, as DLP still can't launch the larger fireworks shells WDW/DL have.
Via ED92
QuoteA decision of the CNDP (Public Debate) recently made public reveals the scale of the Walt Disney Studios Park expansion:
Total size incl. backstage: 31 aces
Lake surrounded by restaurants: 3 acres
"Frozen Land": 9,800m2 floor space
"Star Wars Land": 19,000m2 floor space
Just to clarify in case any one is wondering, the floor spaces mentioned are the area covered by buildings, not the land as a whole!
Is the total size of the expansion 31 acres? If so how big is the WDS current park?
I can't seem to get a figure on the exact acarage of WDS, but at a rough guess the expansion is about a third (maybe a little more) of the current park.
Is the Marvel Land technically an expansion or is the Rock N' Rollercoaster end of WDS being redeveloped into a Marvel theme? I'm presuming it's a mixture of both, so an expansion plus a re-theme of the existing area.
^Well, far as I can tell Marvel Land is just a re-themeing / plussing of the Backlot. It'll use the existing attractions and buildings (for now).
However, from that plan that leaked a while back - it would seem that there's still room to expand behind the RnRc and Moteurs - now that could be for more Marvel Land or to expaned Galaxy's Edge Lite.
This news is really quite shimmeringly ,overwhelmingly welcome! TOT staying would be fantastic, although I'm too wussy to ride it, I'm attached to it staying as is. NOT a Marvel fan etc...etc...BUT wow!
However, I'm hoping they introduce the option to hire a motorised mobility vehicle (as other parks have), because THIS 'new park' will take some serious walking around! My Hubby is mobility impaired and I now also have issues with managing walks over 30 minutes without mind searing pain in hips, so, joking aside, it's a SERIOUS consideration.
^I had no idea they didn't offer this already.
You'd like to hope that will change now that TWDC owns the park completely. And, as you say, it's a vast expansion - so they will need to offer something like that.
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And here's a good video explaining what these new figures mean..
https://youtu.be/GuPGrcyLka0
And to go back to an earlier question - it appears that WDS is currently 62 acres.
The expansion (including backstage) is 31 hectares - which is 76 acres. (1 hectare is 2.47 acres).
Sadly, no. Only manual wheelchairs for hire. TWDC will change that, for sure.
Thanks for highlighting that vid, I watched with great interest, soooo exciting!!
A slightly more detailed plan for the expansion has been published.
Image attached below (C) Disney and/or respective owners.
From the presentation document, they state that..
- Of the €2bn total budget announced in February, €1.5bn is to be spend on expanding the Studios.
- €500m of that €1.5bn budget is for new construction, the remainder (€1bn) is for the attractions.
- Work on the first of the four phase plan is due to commence in December '19 - with 2025 as the expected completion date.
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Thanks for the update. 2025? That'll defo give me enuff time to save up for a visit!! :D
Yeah I was surprised at '25 being the completion date. Looks like they plan to open a phase each year - which is what they did with Hong Kong Disneyland and it's three land expansions.
Combine tha time frame with what was speculated in July...
I. Marvel Land (c. 2020/21)
II. Studio Lake (c.2021/22?)
III. Frozenland (c.2022/23)
IV. Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge (c.2024)
I believe that was estimated when we thought that RnRc would close this year. As the start date is December '19, you can nudge those dates a little and '25 makes sense.
Aha, yes! December '19 as a start seems odd in a way given the harsh French Winters. Anyhoo, I look forward to seeing progress.
ED92 has a brief summary of new details of the plans..
QuoteDavid Wilson (WDI-DLP) reveals NEW WDS Expansion details in interview:
- Lake used for day+night shows
- Marvel Land "The Avengers' European HQ"
"A 3D world were Characters live, work, and recruit new heroes"
- Immersive eateries "where superheroes eat"
- Arendelle recreated
I was hoping the Marvel Land would be given a cool backstory like that! Really looking forward to it as a life-long Marvel fan.
^I just hope it actually delivers. The rumours of what DCA is getting are quite underwhelming - so I've not got much hope for WDS.
What are the rumours regarding DCA?
Well there are just rumours, but they are supposed to be having:
Phase I
- a Spiderman Midway Mania style attraction.
- a Dr. Stange stage show 'experience' (maybe like the Jedi Academy)
- an Ant-Man micro brewery and counter service eatery
Phase II
- Avengers E-Ticket rollercoaster
Again, these are just rumours.
Wasn't there also a rumour regarding a possible Spider-Man rollercoaster, due to Disney filing a patent for a swinging rollercoaster?
When we knew that Disney were going to expand marvel into the park i thought this is a great opportunity really beef up WDS and potentially make it the the best marvel type of land since the Paris park doesn't have the same restrictions as the USA parks.
I think the most obvious and financially sound choice to make would be attractions based on
- The avengers team
- Iron man
- Spider man
These are the most popular characters that cross many age ranges but outside of that their needs to be room for expansion based on characters that dont exist yet or will me introducing soon such as X-men and Fantastic Four and if they choose not to recast Iron Man etc and move on with different characters they need to have the opportunity to expand on them.
I think for setting it would be nice if they could have New York since 99% of Marvel characters originate from there and the style of Hollywood boulevard/ToT would blend nicely with a New York style.
The original (and still used) base of operations for the Avengers was a mansion were they'd have meeting and breakfast together and I'd love it if they could bring this as a place to eat with a meet and greet
A lot of people choose to go to WDW over DLP because they see it as inferior or they dont have unique rides and this is a really good opportunity to make WDS and DLP stand out and get people in and spend money.
^Well it has been suggested that each Marvel attraction is unique to each park - characters only exist in one location. In other words, there will be an Ant-Man attraction in HKDL it will not be replicated elsewhere.
However that argument falls flat if RnRc becomes an Iron Man coaster, as HKDL has the Iron Man Experience.
Maybe the 'character rule' refers to just the attractions themselves. Which makes more sense - let's face it, there'd be a lot of disgruntled guests if you can only see Thor at DCA.
Quote from: MildlyArtistic on November 06, 2018, 11:45:55 PM
Wasn't there also a rumour regarding a possible Spider-Man rollercoaster, due to Disney filing a patent for a swinging rollercoaster?
That has been rumoured, yes. Not sure what the plans are for that.
It can't go in WDW (for now) as there's already a Spiderman attraction at Universal - plus the other contractual restrictions.
DCA is unlikely as the E-Ticket is supposed to be Avengers themed.
There's not been much, if any, talk of Marvel at TDL.
HKDL already has Ant-Man and Iron Man.
WDS seemingly only has plans for a theme overlay on an existing coaster.
Which leaves SDL. A likely candidate, but not any time soon.
Odd really. Maybe they were just filing a patent to prevent another park using a similar system?
Few details from D23, mainly focusing on Avengers Campus - which I'm assuming the Backlot will get renamed.
Here's the presentation, showing what's happening (mainly at DCA). And I do wonder if the big Avengers E-ticket will eventually come to WDS?
https://youtu.be/ICN6dHHRceI
I would of thought the Paris campus would of got more attention. With RnRC closing the Marvel land will be coming together very quickly and you'd think they'd want to promote that.
I was hoping that WDS wold be getting an a specific Avengers ride but if the Iron Man ride will have the other Avengers in it i don't see the point ....
unless someone has a good idea
To be fair to them, I think they focused on DCA more as the Expo was in Anaheim.
That being said, you'd have thought they'd have mentioned the Iron Coaster. It seemed like the focus was more on the Hotel New York.
However, I'm hopeful that there will be another one of those Paris specific presentations that we had a year or so ago. They can go into more detail then.