Release DatesUK - November 2009
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The Frog PrincessQuote from: "IMDB.com"John Lasseter, who currently holds the title of chief creative officer of the Walt Disney Co., selected a stockholders annual meeting in New Orleans Thursday to announce that Disney will return to hand-drawn animation in 2009 with a feature set in New Orleans. The feature, The Frog Princess, will be directed by John Musker and Ron Clements, who oversaw The Little Mermaid and Aladdin, and who were forced out by the studio's previous management when it decided to abandon hand-drawn animation in 2004. The movie will also feature the first African-American princess to appear in a Disney animated film. "We're going back to hand-drawn animation," Lasseter announced at the meeting. "This movie is going to be classic Disney and yet you have never seen this before." The studio said that it plans to rehire many of the animators it let go during the bloodletting following the failure of 2004's Home on the Range, Disney's last "2D" animated film.
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She looks stunning!
An african-american princess, jazz music, new orleans... it's perfect. :) And I'm sure both the african-american and new orleans parts will win it favour with critics and awards.
Oh and hand-drawn animation - yes!!
Does the idea of Jazz music written by Randy Newman, now you know the setting and back story, sound better than the original plan of Alan Menkin?
the film takes place during the 20's.
I'm so happy that Disney is going back to handdraw animation. And having an african-american princess is really something fantastic. I'm so looking forward for the year 2009 and this wonderful movie.
Quote from: "Disneyana"I'm so happy that Disney is going back to handdraw animation
*subscribe* :)
She's really looking pretty. I'm so glad that there'll finally be a black princess! Seems as if we can await two great new handdrawn movies in 2009 :D/
The Frog Princess now appears to be titled "The Princess and the Frog".
The first image of what seems to be final animation on The Princess and the Frog, from TWDC Annual Report:
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Amazing to see this kind of thing from Disney again.
Wow, I love the way they haven't tried to make it look 3D/modern. It will be interesting to see how this will do.
Seeing as its being released next year do you think there will be a trailer released by the end of the year?
Maybe not, since I think it's their Christmas 2009 film and, for example, we haven't had a trailer for this year's Bolt yet.
Rapunzel is apparently being released earlier in 2009, so maybe that will have the trailer? Very very weird to have two films like this in one year - you wait ages and then two come at once. :shock:
Rapunzel is for 2010, same year as Toy Story 3.
QuoteDisney finds its Frog prince
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Variety quietly confirmed last week that ER actor Bruno Campos had been cast as the titular amphibian character in Disney's traditionally animated feature The Princess and the Frog. Anika Noni Rose will be his princess and Keith David will voice the film's villain, Dr. Facilier.
http://www.animated-news.com/2008/disne ... og-prince/ (http://www.animated-news.com/2008/disney-finds-its-frog-prince/)
I wonder if the success of Enchanted finally made them realise that a switch back to hand-drawn animation would be worthwhile?! :)
Quote from: "Snow_White_Girl"I wonder if the success of Enchanted finally made them realise that a switch back to hand-drawn animation would be worthwhile?! :)
Actually, they have start working on 'The Princess and the Frog' before 'Enchanted' hit the cinemas. I believe 'The Princess and the Frog' will be the ultimate test for Disney to see if they continue hand drawn animation, or not.
Quote from: "Remco K."I believe 'The Princess and the Frog' will be the ultimate test for Disney to see if they continue hand drawn animation, or not.
I have nothing against computer animation but i always think disney fairytales are best in hand drawn :) and just to clear this film is hand drawn animation ?
Because im sure the enchanted animation parts were computer animation :?
Quote from: "Owain"Because im sure the enchanted animation parts were computer animation :?
Erm, no I think it is actually hand-drawn, at least that's what they said on the "making of" thing I saw a few weeks back... Obviously stuff like Pip in the "real world" is CGI, and the pigeons, rats etc. in "Happy Working Song", but the very beginning bit (with TLK) is hand-drawn as far as I know. :)
Quote from: "Baloo"QuoteDisney finds its Frog prince
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Variety quietly confirmed last week that ER actor Bruno Campos had been cast as the titular amphibian character in Disney's traditionally animated feature The Princess and the Frog. Anika Noni Rose will be his princess and Keith David will voice the film's villain, Dr. Facilier.
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I've seen him in something Else... With Christina Applegate in Jessie...
Great to see John Goodman back in a Disney Picture though can't remember seeing him lend his vocals to a disney character since Sulley.
This is one of the songs that will be featured in The Princess and the Frog. It's called "Down In New Orleans".
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I like Princess Tiana, a little bit skinny though :P
the images of the new princess look really cool, good old classic disney magic!
cant wait to see this film
disney going back to hand drawnness is something i've been waiting for :mrgreen:
Wow, that's look great!
What a handsome lady that is, Disney's first dark skinned princess??? :D
OH WOW! This looks awesome!
I was so dissapointed when they said they would never do animation again, but when I saw enchanted I got excited cause I thought they were bringing it back! Its happening! They're going back to animations. Yay!
The controversy continues...
Quote from: "IMDB.com"Far from receiving congratulations from the African-American community for finally producing an animated feature with a black princess, Disney is finding itself embroiled in a new controversy every bit as bitter as the one that followed the release of its 1947 film Song of the South. According to published reports, the controversy has already forced the studio to change the title of the film and the name of the lead character. The film, originally titled The Frog Princess, is now being called The Princess and the Frog and the lead character is now called Tiana instead of Maddy. But the controversy has not ended. Charlotte Observer columnist William Blackburn comments: "This princess' story is set in New Orleans, the setting of one of the most devastating tragedies to beset a black community. And then they throw in the voodoo theme [the fairy-godmother character is a voodoo priestess] and an alligator sidekick. When you put New Orleans, alligators and voodoo together, there's no beauty there." The London Independent reports that Disney has now made the prince in the story a man of Middle Eastern heritage and "revised" the race of the villain.
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Is this serious??? Are people this small minded?? It's just a magical story...... :?
PC gone mad. You know we should all be wrapped up in cotton wool, and never speak to each other, that way we cant hear, see or do anything that may be offensive!
Disney.com has added a small trailer, it looks amazing :shock:
You have to check it out guys, looks really promising :D/
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/ (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Quote from: "howtodeal"Disney.com has added a small trailer, it looks amazing :shock:
You have to check it out guys, looks really promising :D/
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/ (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Aww it looks great!
I'm really looking forward to seeing it!
Thanks for posting howtodeal :mrgreen:
I thought the way the camera panned down we were going to see Neverland for a moment there!
Really like the look of that. My 5 year old was giggling away and asking when he could go see it!
QuoteThanks for posting howtodeal
You're welcome burntsienna, iam glad you liked it :wink:
QuoteI thought the way the camera panned down we were going to see Neverland for a moment there!
It actually reminded me of Ratatouille, the view of the city at night, and the way
Tiana was holding the frog :mrgreen:
Actually, now you say that... :D
Hehe brilliant. :mrgreen:
Love the animation, the voices, the logo... it's all looking good. Disney back to what they do best.
Aww, thank you howtodeal :)!
Finally we have a trailer... it really looks amazing!! I'm so looking forward to see another handdrawn princess movie. And I love it that they finally took a dark-skinned princess, she looks beautiful :)! And the frog is really funny :mrgreen:
loved it! But colour & style wise made me think of the balcony scene from aladdin, with a fire fly instead of genie bee. Similar looking heroine too, only with a frog instead of aladdin! Still pretty special though, can't wait
Wow, it looks really good. The fact that Disney have gone back to their basic animation (hand drawn not CGI) has got to be be best but for me, but the look, music characters, etc, etc are all brilliantly done too. Well done Disney =D> =D> =D>
Looking good so far. If the humor in the movie is as good as in the trailer, this will make for a brilliant movie again!
The official Walt Disney Animation website went live with some really cool artwork from Princess and the Frog!
http://www.disneyanimation.com/projects ... index.html (http://www.disneyanimation.com/projects/princessfrog/index.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Keep on clicking "Visual development". :D
I saw that trailer on the disney website! It looks so funny!
"How bout' a nice firm handshake?"
EDIT: THANK YOU KRISTOF! I've been looking for a website telling me everything I need to know about courses for animation, and this is the best one I've seen so far!!! :D
Quote from: "Kristof"The official Walt Disney Animation website went live with some really cool artwork from Princess and the Frog!
http://www.disneyanimation.com/projects ... index.html (http://www.disneyanimation.com/projects/princessfrog/index.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Keep on clicking "Visual development". :D
The artwork is really stunning! :shock:
It looks a bit like artwork that could be used for any Disney park's extension... :lol:
Love the new WDAS website and the distinction they've got going between the two studios now.
Quote from: "Remco K."It looks a bit like artwork that could be used for any Disney park's extension... :lol:
I'm stealing what Kristof said to me, but when you see that treehouse, with the boat, you think... SHANGHAI!! Or even a makeover of the Tarzan Treehouse in CA, since it's practically next door to New Orleans Square. It's soo similar.
The artwork is incredible and incredibly beautiful. It's like they're launching straight back into the stunning animations of Treasure Planet but with the wonderful characters of The Little Mermaid and the story of Beauty and the Beast.
Speaking of which... the story of having to kiss a frog to turn it back into a human is a bit similar to that, isn't it?
My goodness the artwork is beautiful. It's a mix of Main street and adventure land or something. I can't wait to see more!
Quote from: "MinniesBestPal"I saw that trailer on the disney website! It looks so funny!
"How bout' a nice firm handshake?"
EDIT: THANK YOU KRISTOF! I've been looking for a website telling me everything I need to know about courses for animation, and this is the best one I've seen so far!!! :D
BTW Minniesbestpal, I had no idea you wanted to be an animator??
Oprah joins the cast!
From the Hollywood Reporter:
QuoteOprah Winfrey has joined the voice cast of the upcoming Disney animated film "The Princess and the Frog."
At a Disney presentation in Hollywood on Wednesday, John Lasseter, the chief creative office at Pixar and Walt Disney Animation Studios, said that Winfrey will play the character of Eudora, the mother of the main character Princess Tiana, voiced by Anika Noni Rose.
The film, set for release in late 2009, is set in the French Quarter of New Orleans.
Winfrey has lent her vocal talents to several other animated and fantasy films in the past: Most recently, she played Judge Bumbleton in "Bee Movie," and she also provided dialogue for Gussy the Goose in the live-action "Charlotte's Web."
Randy Newman has written six new songs for the film, it was also announced. One of the songs, "Down in New Orleans," was performed at the presentation by Dr. John.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... e276d0146a (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ib3a012783f826da3fb9e23e276d0146a%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
disneyanimation.com had added new interviews with Ron Clements,John Musker, Andreas Deja and Bruce Smith.
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Look At This
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This Image was posted on another Disney/Pixar forum on Saturday! It is thought to be one of the latest released shots from the movie...
All I can think to say about this movie from here is...
The Renaissance of Disney Hand Drawn Animation has been revived by the Hawaiian Shirt!
Lasseter must Surely by Midas! Everything he is touching is turning into Gold!
Stunning Picture... Outstanding, Christmas Can't Come Sooner!
Oh wow that's a stunning picture :shock:
Can't wait to see this one. Surely gonna be classic this one!!
Truly beautiful. They couldn't have chosen a better character or setting to bring back traditional animation with.
I'm just annoyed again that it's released here 19th February 2010, rather than Christmas 2009. February half term must be a really big time for animation box office?
I heared that Fox had decided to release Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 on Christmas day too :evil:
Quote from: "howtodeal"I heared that Fox had decided to release Alvin and the Chipmunks 2 on Christmas day too :evil:
Tough competition :roll:
Princess Tiana and Prince Naveen are already part of the Royal Family! :mrgreen:
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Well isn't that a nice little warm up for fans before Up's US release and its showcase as a feature teaser trailer! Its a nice little addition.
Looks like When it comes to giving their autographs these days the Princesses have chosen their implement of choice!
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A Sharpie Permanent Marker... :P
Ok that may not be funny but I did notice it. :oops:
The still that you posted on the previous page Captain Pan is so beautiful - this really looks like a proper revival for Disney's classic 2D animation, which will also be the true magical way of making animated features. It just has something more beautiful than the CGI animations, which are truly stunning but still not the real deal for me.
I cannot wait to see more from this and by the way it is nice to that already is branded along the classic princesses. Thanks for the picture Kristof!
:shock: The trailer.
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:shock: Gasp.
Oh My Good Golly Gosh... What a Trailer
The hand drawn section to open it... which was mezmerising... I am amazed just looking at it...
It kind of lets you know that Lasseter has taken Disney back to where the Animators want it to go...Hand Drawn Classics
Story twist is great... and Now I wonder how long the delay is Between the US December Release and the UKs....
Now I think we have a Fight on our hands for Animation at the Oscars... Up vs The Princess and the Frog...
I wouldn't bet on Ice Age or Partly Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs or that Monsters Vs Aliens...
But would split my bet against Disney and Pixar and the two movies!
What a great trailer, I am SO excited about this film!! I just hope we don't have to wait too long after it gets its release in America!
Quote from: "luke85"What a great trailer, I am SO excited about this film!! I just hope we don't have to wait too long after it gets its release in America!
Just checked on it... Imdb.com Slates UK Release as
February 12 2010... Just in time for Half Term and Valentines Day... (There's Wendybird1's treat Sorted between the UP DVD and all!)
Whoa, I was not expecting to see that. The trailer looks superb :mrgreen: It's good to see that Disney is looking back at its roots, to the films that made it what it is today. Now all we have to do is wait and see whether this has a true classic Disney status (and it's going to be a long wait :roll: )
Quote from: "Captain Pan"Quote from: "luke85"What a great trailer, I am SO excited about this film!! I just hope we don't have to wait too long after it gets its release in America!
Just checked on it... Imdb.com Slates UK Release as
February 12 2010... Just in time for Half Term and Valentines Day... (There's Wendybird1's treat Sorted between the UP DVD and all!)
Oh good, that's not that long to wait after the US release, I cannot wait to see it! Thanks for the info :)
Wow! What a great trailer! I´m now sooo excited! =D>
ooo my my my, that trailer looks fantastic!!!
I'm so unbelievably excited right now :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Wow, I was not expecting that at all. It looks great, it looks like it has a great villain too which is what films need. I think the Feb release is timed quite nicely.
Thankyou for posting that.
It looks friggin fantastic! =D>
Will this be a cinema or straight to dvd release?
Believe it or not, this will be a traditionally-animated Disney film... on the big screen!
Trailer is now on Apple in HD: http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/pr ... ndthefrog/ (http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/princessandthefrog/)
Love the new logo too.
Old:
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Hmmm.... I'm really not sure. That trailer, it just looks a bit.......
Absolutely bloody* amazing! :mrgreen:
I'm ten times more excited about this now.
*I am allowed to say that, right? :lol:
Thanks Anthony!
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Is it me or does the crocodile look like the one in Peter Pan?
And a poster too! That was just showing the logo when I posted.
The crocodile does look a little Peter Pan-esque... especially with Tinkerbell floating nearby. And then you've got Kaa from The Jungle Book in the tree and the Bowler Hat Guy from Meet the Robinsons as the villain, all placed within the "Kiss the Girl" scene from The Little Mermaid, with the riverboat of The Rescuers in the background!
beautyfull poster, great trailer now its time to bring into the cinemas, cant wait to see this movie...
the new trailer looks really great, can't wait to see the whole movie. Also the new poster artwork is beautiful, i like it a lot
Here's some hi-res shots that have been released
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wow this looks amazing a lot like the little mermiad which is like laods of people favs so taht must be a good thing cant wait to watch it even thou im more excited for up but i feel this may be better
wow, great new pics from the movie, also the backgrounds looks just stunning. thanks for the link. Can't wait for the movie.
The final two remind me more of Treasure Planet's animation than the early 90s style, which is definitely no bad thing. I'll be amazed if they can return to animation as on top of the game as they were in 2002 (visual-wise, not story-wise).
Does anyone know what period the film is set in?
I love these pics, the backgrounds look so beautiful! Me and my boyfriend are going to NY this December, and I think NY cinemas are showing this from November 25th? If they are I'll be over the moon! I'm so excited about this film!
Quote from: "Anthony"Does anyone know what period the film is set in?
IMDB says the 1920's :)
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Rough animation as shown at Comic-Con:
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Quote from: "Pamani"IMDB says the 1920's :)
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Thanks! That's great news.
The official website has also been updated a lot since I last looked: http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/ (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessandthefrog/) Some new video clips on there.
Wow it was really nice to see some of those images.
I just checked out the three videos on the official site and they were great, lovely little insight into the history of the people working on it, a bit about the Disney legacy and a lovely little piece about the guy animating the new Princess. Watching those just got me really excited about this film. December can't come quick enough :P
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/brewtv/princessandfrog.html (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/brewtv/princessandfrog.html)
Check this out, it's a behind the scenes featurette, called 'Conjuring the Villian'
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Wow, this makes me really really happy, a decent villain! :D
It was a great video, thanks for the linkage! I saw a bit of Genie come through at one point and he also reminds me of that character in the Bond film, Live and Let Die.
Great voice choice! Creepy, but sooo smooth nonetheless.
And yes, a touch of the Genie is noticable, sweet!
Thanks for posting that link! Every clip I see of this film just gets me more and more excited!
wow the trailer looks great, I love the colours and animation, they look great! I can't wait to see this film, I think I will be a fan hehe! :P
Art of Disney Animation has been updated with a nice preview showing more shots, although it's yet another Lasseter-fronted deadpan "I'm SO excited about this..." / "It's all about story" featurette.
Quote from: "Anthony"Art of Disney Animation has been updated with a nice preview showing more shots, although it's yet another Lasseter-fronted deadpan "I'm SO excited about this..." / "It's all about story" featurette.
Ant have you ever thought he is actually genuinely excited about the movie? After all its the first hand drawn animation to come from Disney since he re-opened the department!
And he may comment on and on about the story... But without a good story which shows the development and emotions of the character the animation itself is useless... That's why Pixar have been so successful great stories... Come on Even reading about Up I get goosebumps and teary eyed!
Oh I'm sure he is very excited about the movie... he just never seems to be all that thrilled having to do these identical VTs over and over again, rolling out the same Disney management-approved soundbites. I don't blame him.
Quote from: "Anthony"Oh I'm sure he is very excited about the movie... he just never seems to be all that thrilled having to do these identical VTs over and over again, rolling out the same Disney management-approved soundbites. I don't blame him.
He is a rather busy man remember Ant! You take into account he's running 2 of the worlds Greatest Animation Studios... then he's also trying to add adventure to Resprts on 3 Continents... Add in the Acquisition of Marvel... He's been labeled harder to get an audience with than the Pope!
He may not sound thrilled... but he's trying to improve the quality of life for the animators at WDAS so that they don't churn out cheep rubbish and make each movie on their reels Oscar nominated.
I've just been reading through this and i noticed that a full list of the voice actors hasn't been listed. Should i do the honours? :P
Quote from: "IMBD.com"Terrence Howard ... James
Keith David ... Dr. Facilier
John Goodman ... Eli 'Big Daddy' LaBouff
Bruno Campos ... Prince Naveen
Oprah Winfrey ... Eudora
Jim Cummings ... Ray
Anika Noni Rose ... Princess Tiana
Jenifer Lewis ... Mama Odie
Jennifer Cody ... Charlotte LaBouff
Elizabeth M. Dampier ... Young Tiana
Jerry Kernion ... Mr. Fenner
Michael Colyar ... Buford
Breanna Brooks ... Young Charlotte LaBouff
Ritchie Montgomery ... Reggie
Peter Bartlett ... Lawrence
Michael-Leon Wooley ... Louis
Ok now not really the true reason i'm here. The real reason is because i just found out who the person doing the voice for the main villian is, and how right Disney have got it.
For those who don't know who Keith David is, he's responsible for quite a few video game voices (and my personal favourite voice actor). Fans of the Saints Row and Mass Effect video games will know him better as Julius Little and Captain Anderson, but others may know him better as the cat from Coraline (although if the trailers are anything to go by he sounds completely different. Disney really couldn't have chose a better person for Dr. Facilier. His voice just fits the character's look perfectly!
Finally i have found something that makes me look forward to this! :P (although hearing him as a villian is going to be strange, as i know him more as the main character's friend and boss turned traitor :lol: )
Thanks to the blue Sky Disney blog:
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It hope it is as good as it looks :D
That new trailer looks great!! :mrgreen: I could really see this becoming a Disney classic and bring back the glory days of Disney animation.
Quote from: "-breeno-"That new trailer looks great!! :mrgreen: I could really see this becoming a Disney classic and bring back the glory days of Disney animation.
You took the words right out of my mouth! I'm so excited about this film! :D
aww that made me smile haha looks like a classic to me =D
i like the new trailer a lot, can't wait for the movie, i expect a great 2D Animation movie again.
Just booked my cinema tickets for when I'm in NY this December! So excited!!
Check out the website, the experience you get after the film looks amazing also...
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/pri ... ogtickets/ (http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/princessfrogtickets/)
^That is so cool, I hope they do an event like that in London.
A new poster, looks SUPER!
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Doesn't work :(?
Quote from: "Soap"A new poster, looks SUPER!
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Doesn't work :(?
It does if you go on the link. I've gotta agree with you there Soap, it is a great poster :)
Fantastic poster!
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Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Can't see anything, is it the same as this poster
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Yes it is! Looks seriously stunning imho!
Wow! I completely can't wait!
That poster looks fantastic!
Same poster, different colour.
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Thanks to my friends @ the blue sky disney blog!
STUNNING :shock:
Amazing!
looks fantastic cant wait to see it and i know my neice is gunna love it
Interesting behind the scenes footage on tonights South Bank Show (UK) It's just finished but you should be able to watch it on ITV player. It was about the history of Pixar and has some great stuff on The Pricess and The Frog
Quote from: "jeakat24"Interesting behind the scenes footage on tonights South Bank Show (UK) It's just finished but you should be able to watch it on ITV player. It was about the history of Pixar and has some great stuff on The Pricess and The Frog
I saw this too, I thought it was great. I did think it was strange how they talked about how Pixar was founded in the middle of the show, I thought they would have put that part at the beginning? Other than that I recommend catching it again online!
Quote from: "luke85"Quote from: "jeakat24"Interesting behind the scenes footage on tonights South Bank Show (UK) It's just finished but you should be able to watch it on ITV player. It was about the history of Pixar and has some great stuff on The Pricess and The Frog
I saw this too, I thought it was great. I did think it was strange how they talked about how Pixar was founded in the middle of the show, I thought they would have put that part at the beginning? Other than that I recommend catching it again online!
Yeah I thought it was a little disjointed in places but I'm so glad I watched it, especially as I only found out it was on 10 minutes beforehand
Could this be the beginning of a new 'golden age of Disney animation'? I surely hope so. Handdrawn animation still remains the best. It feels warm, it has atmosphere that CGI can't compete to and the backgrounds look gorgeous!
There is one thing I'm dissapointed about: Alan Menken is not the composer for this movie. Randy Newman has experience in jazzy tunes, so it seems the most logical choice. But did Disney forgot that it's Alan Menken that set the standard for animated musicals? Glad they are using him again for Rapunzel.
Anyway, I'm realy excited about this movie. It's a shame we only get to see it next year :evil: .
There will be a opening on November 25 in several cities (New York and Los Angeles mainly to qualify for the Oscars) before a wider release December 11.
awwww thats well not fair, I cant wait to see this film and hope it brings Disney back to what their classic films are like as it is a long time coming since Disney made a proper animated film in the style of aladdin, beauty and the beast etc etc
and why its not fair is we in the UK have to wait to (insert naughty word) Febuary to see this film which is a whole 2 months behind you americans :(
WOW.
Was in NY last week and booked tickets to see one of the advanced screenings. I was totally blown away by this film! Everything about it seemed to fit so well, great characters, strong story, brilliant songs and beautiful animation. I can't sing it's praises enough, and I bought the soundtrack the next day!
There was also a sort of meet-and-greet event after the film at another theatre which had all the princesses there on individual platforms, was great to see Tiana up there with the rest of the princesses. You could also learn to draw characters from the film, and there were various animators from the film teaching this.
I can't wait until February so I can see it again!
Wow, Time.com placed Princess and the Frog on the first spot of their top 10 of 2009 movies:
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Quote from: "Kristof"Wow, Time.com placed Princess and the Frog on the first spot of their top 10 of 2009 movies:
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Great news, thanks Kristof! I'm very glad this movie is so well received! If this is a success - and only then - we might actually see more hand drawn Disney Classics in the future ... [-o<
To everyone: You love Aladdin, you love Beauty And The Beast, The Little Mermaid etc ? You don't want them to be the last of their kind??? Then go see this movie!! Twice! Tell your family, tell your friends to go and see this movie!
I shall be watching this film when it comes out here in Febuary as it is going back to how I remember disney films and will watch it for that reason alone just to see if it lives up to the likes of aladdin, cinderella, beauty and the beast etc etc
And if it does then great as then I would hope disney will go back to these kind of films as for me personally these are the types of films that got me into disney in the first place and I would like to see the return of them.
i watched it on the weekend here in germany, and i have to say i love this movie,
have to watch it again...
Welcome back disney and thank you for this great movie!!
thats not fair!! why it seems to be out everywhere but the UK grrrr
Quote from: "Stitch2814"thats not fair!! why it seems to be out everywhere but the UK grrrr
That's really strange. Why is the movie in the UK released in February? Are there any reasons. I thought Disney is releasing it everywhere at the same time.
I've just seen the movie in the cinema. If you haven't already seen it, go and watch it. It's such a wonderful classic Disney movie. I loved it.
To all who have already seen The Princess and the Frog. Was there a short cartoon before the main movie? Yesterday we have seen the movie, but there was no cartoon. I thought that Disney was showing a new Mickey Mouse cartoon, but maybe I was wrong.
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "Stitch2814"thats not fair!! why it seems to be out everywhere but the UK grrrr
That's really strange. Why is the movie in the UK released in February? Are there any reasons. I thought Disney is releasing it everywhere at the same time.
Here in The Netherlands, we'll also have to wait until February. :(
I honestly don't know why certain European countries have to wait for several months more...
I'd say that in the UK it's because they wait until the next suitable half term, because when schools are open they miss out on daytime box office, but there's really no excuse for not releasing it, say, this weekend. They're missing out on massive Christmas merchandise sales and come Boxing Day people will be so bored they'd lap up a good new film, one that's not Avatar...
What makes it worse is that they're constantly sending me emails to "win a private screening" whilst we hear how everyone else is enjoying it. ANY screening would be nice, thanks! Anyway, I entered, so if I win there are 49 tickets with magicforum members' names on them.
Those lucky enough to see it... is it a real classic? Will it sit on the shelf with Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid?
for us in the UK we get sherlock homles on boxing day so they might not want this to clash with that films release but I agree they are silly not to release the film everywhere at once, as it seems weird germany has, we dont..neither do the netherlands so why only select EU countries???
Just like UP over again, as you got it on dvd by the time it came out here in the cinema lol disney need to sort out there release scedule as no way am I waiting an extra 3 months for toy story 3
Quote from: "Anthony"Those lucky enough to see it... is it a real classic? Will it sit on the shelf with Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid?
Yes. I was so impressed by it, I hope others will be too :)
Instant classic. It will be on TLM, TLK, BatB, Aladdin levels
I know I shouldnt do but I am so going to have to watch this film online, no way am I waitiing till febuary to see it (will see it then as well) if people are saying its on the Lion King and other of fave disney film list then I will watch it where ever I can.
edited to remove my comment to stop any offence.
Quote from: "Stitch2814"And I LOVED Louis got to get a pin of him hahaha and Ray
Totally agree, Louis was my favourite!
Quote from: "Stitch2814"ok I just watched this film online
Blimey, you don't waste any time. But let me put up a big sign reading "magicforum does not endorse this!".
To be honest I'd prefer if you didn't admit such things on here, thanks.
Quote from: "Anthony"Those lucky enough to see it... is it a real classic? Will it sit on the shelf with Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid?
No.
While being a beautiful film, "Princess and the Frog" does not reach the level of these "2nd Golden Age Classics". (Which is tough, to be fair.)
I guess the problem for me was that there was too much good in the movie: there are some great musical numbers in the movie. But there are so many of them. You are almost bombarded by them. In the end, it is hard to keep them apart from one another. (Personally, as great as Randy Newman's songs are, I would have cut out one or two of them...)
Same goes for the characters: there are so many great characters in the movie. But in the end, there are TOO many great characters in the movie and they hardly get enough screen time...
But that's just my point of view. I thoroughly enjoyed "Frog" - but it is not Disney's next classic...
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Stitch2814"ok I just watched this film online
Blimey, you don't waste any time. But let me put up a big sign reading "magicforum does not endorse this!".
To be honest I'd prefer if you didn't admit such things on here, thanks.
edited to stop offence being caused.
"The Princess and the Frog" is a great movie, but like experiment627 already said, the movie doesn't reach the level of "Beauty and the Beast", "The Little Mermaid" or "Lion King", but in my opinion it was the best Disney animation movie since "The Lion King". Some will disagree, but I liked "Frog" better than "Mulan" or "Pocahontas". I think the characters are great, the music is also great and the animation is really well done. The movie is a great start for reintroducing hand drawn animation and I really hope that it will be a success.
I can't wait until the DVD is released.
I admit now that I think about it, it is an amazing film that revitalised what disney are good at, and the songs where good but not as good as say the Lion King or other such films as I dont find myself singing lyrics like I did with those films lol
It still is an amzing film regardless of if it is a new disney classic or not but I guess that will be determined by how popular the film is as even some new films are in the classic range like Home on the Range which aint a classic :P
Quote from: "Stitch2814"Ok my bad and sorry if any offense have been taken. Im not the only one does it though, and Im not ashamed of doing so :D/
Great, make it worse... It's just bizarre to talk about illegally downloading Disney films on a Disney
fan forum, surely I can't be alone in thinking that. :roll:
I edited my posts to remove the comments I made to stop any offence being taken, and any unneccessary comments being made towards myself, as I feel like im being judgement and condemned for watching it but dont like it then thats your own problem not mine, sorry but thats just how it is.
Quote from: "Anthony"Those lucky enough to see it... is it a real classic? Will it sit on the shelf with Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid?
Unfortunately, it is that very pressure to
sit on that shelf that makes the film
somewhat less than it could have been. It's like they all got together and made an enormous list of MUSTS:
- have princess.
- have first black princess. Do not invoke wrath of interest groups.*
- have villain just as good as Ursula, Scar, Cruella, etc.
- have scene equal to "A Whole New World."
- have scene equal to "Kiss the Girl."
- have song equal to "When You Wish Upon a Star."
- have music that will sell as pop songs and work for fireworks shows.
- involve no less than 1000 hidden references.
...And on, and on and on. Such pressure! With so many boxes to check, the film barely got a minute to just be good. "Less than the sum of its parts" would be a good way to describe it.
BUT, it's still a great movie! The animation is superb and skillful, so good that it will instantly remind the world that hand-drawn animation is still something worth doing. (Thank God, no, thank Eric Goldberg!) The voice work is sublime. (Lottie!) The characters are for the most part well-rounded, and interesting. And above all, in the end, you're enjoying yourself in a way you haven't since Tarzan!
The problem is just that when you try to be equal to your predecessors, try so very very hard to, you don't push the envelope, and you tend to get something slightly artificial. In ten years, we will still think of Beauty and the Beast as that Disney film that shook us to the core, that film that showed us something more sublime than we'd ever seen in our lives. And Disney will still be trying to match that film and not Princess and the Frog.
(I was just watching The Great Mouse Detective again. I'd forgotten how good it is, and after Princess and the Frog, it's a reminder of a time when movies were born out of ideas rather than ambitions. The Great Mouse Detective certainly didn't have a list to check off — it proudly lacks a shiny panoramic opening scene, it lacks in-the-know bits, it even lacks a romantic subplot. The only way in which it hearkens back to the classics is that it tries to be excellent on all fronts, and succeeds.)
But in these dark ages of hand-drawn animation, who's complaining? This is more than we could have hoped for. But now that the scary part's over, let's hope that its success persuades Disney to keep the creative juices flowing.
So, conclusion: Is it a worthy effort? Certainly! But I hope it's the beginning of another renaissance and not the pinnacle of it.
NOTE: The jury's still out on Randy Newman. His music is appropriate for the film (it's very N'awlins), but you get a sense that everyone at Disney was hoping for Menken-type material. Alan Menken's music makes you want to jump on a garbage pail, close your eyes and swing your arms, because damn it, you want to be part of that world/have adventure in the great wide somewhere/go the distance/go out there! Randy Newman's music makes you want to bob your head a little. So you get these huge scenes full of dancing flamingos, but set to lounge music. Hmmm.
*This was handled with taste and rose above all that controversy, it must be said. The film was not about anyone's color, thankfully it was too busy having a plot.
Excellent notes. Thanks Puss!
I'll come back in two and a half months with a better reply... :wink:
Nicely said pussinboots!
For me, the movie lacked a bit of emotion. It does have some slightly moving parts, but it's no Beauty and the Beast! But that's my only criticism of it. The animation was gorgeous, there are some great characters in there, and it's definitely worth watching!
I have to say, I quite like the soundtrack. I bought it after watching the movie, and there are some cool songs in there - and the score is good too. Not my favourite Disney soundtrack, but I think the music goes very well with the tone of the movie.
In my opinion it is a little bit unfair to compare the movie with Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin or Lion King. It is the first hand drawn movie for many years and I think the movie is a great start for reintroducing hand drawn animation. Most of the animators from the 90s left the company and the new and young animators did a great job. We have to give them more time and I'm sure Disney will release some new classics.
Maybe it was a little bit to early for a movie based in New Orleans, after "Katrina".
Quote from: "dagobert"Maybe it was a little bit to early for a movie based in New Orleans, after "Katrina".
I know this is a concern for some people. But whilst Katrina was a terrible tragedy, I really don't see it as being relevant to the film. The movie is set in 1920s New Orleans, not post-2005 New Orleans. That argument could be used for other locations to suffer from tragedy. Should movies not be set in New York because of 9/11?
The story of the movie is completely separate from the present day, so I don't think it is insensitive to have New Orleans as the film's setting.
Quote from: "dagobert"In my opinion it is a little bit unfair to compare the movie with Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin or Lion King.
They've raised the stakes themselves, essentially positioning the film as "JUST AS GOOD AS ALADDIN. THIS IS TO 2009 WHAT THE LITTLE MERMAID WAS TO 1989." And it's not just the marketing. The filmmakers obviously shared the ambition. Perhaps that was pushing the realms of the possible a little bit.
If Princess and the Frog had come out as a sort of unexpected surprise at a film festival, people would be praising it to the skies and never even utter a word of criticism. But when you aim this high...
It's still a lovely thing, of course. At least they're being ambitious again. At least they're aiming for quality again, and handling their legacy with a degree of dignity again, rather than bulldozing over history and turning Cinderella and Belle into long-lashed bimbos fit for bedsheets, as they had been for a decade.
I think it's about up there with The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Both tried extremely hard and excelled on several fronts. Both are BIG on atmosphere, both have several great, memorable characters (and a few cardboard ones.) Both are better in the first two acts than the final one. Both feel a little like circles pushed through square holes. But both are great films.
(Hunchback finds its way to my DVD player all the time, for the record.)
Minor spoiler alert. Overthinking alert.
I just realized why it reminds me so much of Hunchback. Both suffer from hey-where'd-the-plot-go-syndrome. A plethora of subplots is introduced, because they're fun or because they're commercially necessary, and then they just sort of implode. The End.
In the case of Hunchback, there was the inevitable problem that the ending of the original novel couldn't be repeated, for obvious reasons. There were also the gargoyles, who were there to provide Happy Meal toy material. As a result, after Frollo's demise, the movie just sort of had to end. Quasimodo's growing love for Esmeralda is extinguished by a quick "oh well" moment, Phoebus gets to have a little speech and catch Quasimodo so no one can say he hasn't had his heroic moment in the climax, and we're out. Huh?
Something similar happens in the Princess and the Frog, I'm afraid. You understand that they didn't want to give up on all these fun characters, and that Tiana needed her own independent-woman plot in order to be an acceptable modern Disney princess, but the result is just sort of confusing. Usually, Disney film premises are fairly simple. The protagonist has a want or a need, then pursues it and wises up along the way, then heroically and unselfishly slays the villain and Happy Ending ensues. But here, one plot line has little to do with another. Dr Facilier and Tiana barely cross paths, and neither she nor Naveen has much to do with his demise. There is never much reason for them to traverse the bayous other than that bayous are cool backdrops for any movie. The frog spell isn't broken by anything that should have taken the entire movie (unlike the spells of Beauty and the Beast, Pinocchio and even Hercules, which are broken as rewards for lessons learned.) Tiana's big dream comes true as an afterthought. So again, it feels like the writers had to quilt this thing together.
Just an observation...
Here in the UK it is pretty annoying. Besides yet another much later release, the add on the Disney channel looked like it was designed to appeal to 5 year old girls, their mothers and maybe some friends of dorothy - it was just the sequence where the Tiana kisses anything but the lips of the frog. If I didn't know any better, it looks on par with Fern Gully, Lost in Time, or any other forgettable 2D Annoying, especially when you look at how great the other characters are (for boys as well) and some of the music.
Once again the UK marketing team should be shot (despite doing an awesome job with Christmas Carol).
THis is not performing well in the US right now at all. I hope it does not signal the end of 2D. Because 2D is not the problem. Marketing maybe, and the theme definately (the word Princess in the title can really ostricize a large part of the market). But when the Alvin Squeekuel is out performing PatF in the box office, you know all is not well.
I really want this one to do well. I want to see future traditional animation.
I saw the movie twice and i think its AMAZING! it definetly in the same category as The little Mermaid and Aladdin
in my opinion. The story, the music, the return of hand drawn animation, it was all perfect.
There's also a little unusual surprise towards the end (I'm not going to say anything :P )
Most of the people are complaining about the songs, but i really like them and i think they give the
movie its own identity and they fit the setting of the movie :D
I can't wait for you guys in Europe to see it
Quote from: "howtodeal"I saw the movie twice and i think its AMAZING! it definetly in the same category as The little Mermaid and Aladdin
in my opinion. The story, the music, the return of hand drawn animation, it was all perfect.
There's also a little unusual surprise towards the end (I'm not going to say anything :P )
Most of the people are complaining about the songs, but i really like them and i think they give the
movie its own identity and they fit the setting of the movie :D
I can't wait for you guys in Europe to see it
You are absolutely right. I don't know why so many people complain about the music, we love the songs, too.
We have only seen the German version, so we don't know how the songs are in English, but the German songs are great and so we had to buy the soundtrack.
In my opinion PatF is the best Disney animation movie since Lion King, so it's really sad that the movie didn't perform so well in the US. I think until now it made only 92 mio $.
Quoteso it's really sad that the movie didn't perform so well in the US
Yeah, box office results in the US are disappointing :( bu it's Disney, other movie studios wish they
have something like the "Disney Princess" brand :D
How is the movie doing in Germany btw? is it successful?
Quote from: "howtodeal"Quoteso it's really sad that the movie didn't perform so well in the US
Yeah, box office results in the US are disappointing :( bu it's Disney, other movie studios wish they
have something like the "Disney Princess" brand :D
How is the movie doing in Germany btw? is it successful?
I don't know how the movie is doing in Germany, but here in Austria it was successful. I also don't know how much money the movie made, because here it is measured in visitors who have seen the movie. Until now (5 weeks of running) nearly 200000 have seen PatF.
QuoteUntil now (5 weeks of running) nearly 200000 have seen PatF
This sounds really good :D/
Did you guys see the DVD and Bluray cover? the movie is going to be released March 16th in America
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That looks frighteningly airbrushed as usual. But at least it's for a proper movie this time.
QuoteThat looks frighteningly airbrushed as usual
I agree. The characters look a lot better than this :roll:
I saw it today, was great. I really loved the animation, the story, the characters and the songs. Maybe not as good as the main classics but it is still up there among them.
The screening I went to also had the two directors, one of the main animators and Anita Noni Rose do a Q&A session after the film. It was brilliant and I got to meet Anita Noni Rose and Ron Clements after the film, was brilliant (Ron Clements signed my DVD copy of Aladdin :D).
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Ron Clements signs posters and DVDs.
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I got to meet Princess Tiana!
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Me with Ron Clements, one of the directors of Princess and the Frog and lots of other Disney classics
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Ron Clements and John Musker leave the BFI :(
I like how you began "I saw it today, was great." and then posted those amazing pictures. Wow.
The Princess and the Frog has hit the UK! :D/
Wow peep, that is brilliant!!! It must have been an incredible evening.
The Princess and The Frog will break the 100 mil. dollar barrier this week with US gross only. Now it's up to us to boost this to higher levels in world wide grossing. The movie will open next week here in Holland. Will be there for the premiere!
Quote from: "Tuvok"The Princess and The Frog will break the 100 mil. dollar barrier this week with US gross only.
That's sooo slow though... why hasn't it been doing better business?
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "Tuvok"The Princess and The Frog will break the 100 mil. dollar barrier this week with US gross only.
That's sooo slow though... why hasn't it been doing better business?
I think the competition was too big. Avatar was released nearly at the same time and this stupid Chipmunk movie pulled also a lot of people into the cinemas. Then there was another Disney movie, A Christmas Carol, in cinemas and three family orientated movies are too many. Going to cinema with the whole family will be a little bit expensive and so I think many families chose just one movie.
To celebrate the film finally coming to our side of Europe and Tiana preparing to arrive at Disneyland Paris, Jérémie Noyer deviates slightly from the park interviews to bring DLRP Magic.com an exclusive talk with Princess Tiana's actual supervising animator, Mark Henn:
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Don't worry, no spoilers - perfect lead-in for the film! :)
Peep - wow great photos!! Anita Noni Rose is so pretty, she almost looks like a Disney cartoon character with her bright eyes and big smile hehe! I have seen a few TV interviews of her recently. I am looking forward to seeing the film...i'm going to go in with no expectations and see what I think.
Pussinboots - What was the original ending to the Hunchback of Notre Dame ( i have never read the book)? I have to admit though it is one of my favourite Disney films!
I'm counting down the days till Friday!
I cannot wait and i love the soundtrack. Bit suprised it didn't do too well over the pond though.
This weekend The Princess and the Frog passed the 100mio mark in the US.
The Princess and the Frog is nominated, like UP, for the Oscar for Best Animated Film. Although I liked this movie better than UP, I don't think it has a real chance to win.
The film has also been nominated for two if it's songs, good luck Disney!
For once I hope that Pixar doesn't win the oscar for best animated feature film. Though UP is a really good movie, I personally think The Princess and The Frog is better, but that can also be because I'm so glad they returned to the beautiful handdrawn animation style. It's so good to see Disney back in action and it shows that Disney is still the absolute king in handdrawn animation. At first (before I saw the movie) I didn't like the songs, but IN the movie they work very well. Not as memorable as earlier masterpieces from The Mouse House, but still a nice swinging jazz sound which fits perfectly well. Go see this movie, I loved every minute of it. Hopefully the Disney execs will look past boxoffice results and see that this is the way Disney animation should go. Let Pixar do the CGI, it's what they do best. After all those dreadful movies like Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons, Disney Animation is back where they belong: the top of the industry.
I also like The Princess and the Frog better than UP, but I don't think that TPATF will win the Oscar for best animated movie.
Great photos Peep, you're very lucky and i'm really glad the movie got 3 nominations. Not bad at all :D
PS. her name is Anika not Anita :P
It's weird to see my name with an N stuck infront of it N-aveen lol!
Anyone going to see the film today?
Me and DD are off in about 90mins to go see it.
I might wait for Orange wednesdays next week, although I am tempted to see it tomorrow...!
Anyone that does see it this weekend, have a great time! :D
All i can say is WOW!
I'm glad i waited untill i had seen the film before listening to the soundtrack, not sure why some people are not fans of the music but i loved it. Off to purchase the soundtrack now :)
Just back from watching it. Its good. Its nice to see hand-drawn animation of a high quality. But as much as I enjoyed it there was something just not right about the whole thing. And I think the reson was 'too many' ....
too many songs, too many characters, too many mini-threads and plots. Someone should have came along and edited the script down into something a lot tighter and more coherent.
Overall, I'd give it 7/10
P.S. Look out for loads of nods to the other Princess films. Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella all get blatent mentions. There are others, but you can find them for yourselves. (quite possibly as many nods as Enchanted had)
Can't not write a few thoughts. The summary: So much fun. So beautiful. So many wonderful characters.
I agree it could have been tightened up a bit, tied together better. I found Mama Odie was the point where it just got a bit "too much". The musical number there (Dig a Little Deeper) wasn't all that necessary and I've had to finally break out the soundtrack CD I've had waiting since Christmas to actually remind myself of it. It could really have been saved as a "Human Again" type segment for a DVD release. The character herself was a bit unnecessary, undeveloped. The voodoo elements only served to make Dr Facilier less unique.
Anyway, minor quibble in what is a truly remarkable film. I'm still pinching myself that this isn't just something I've imagined. It took a few minutes to get over the goosebumps of seeing moving drawings (mad!) up on the big screen, and then it has Ray, Louis and Lottie (fantastically voiced and animated!), stunning backgrounds and animation, a wonderful lead character (as a newspaper article said "a woman whose three dimensions you don't need to don daft specs to see"), not to mention -- a whole musical number in 1920s art deco style!! Just wow. Thank you to everyone who made this happen.
I was totaly taken away to another world, the setting was so rich, as were the characters and I have to admit, the music ... Still, would love yo of heard what Alan Menkin had in store, rather than Randy Newman. Overall, a great return to hand drawn animation. While I loved Up, this for ms had more of a classic feel to it, and more timeless as with many Disney animated movies. Just wonderful. I did however catch myself wondering what and how those frogs would look like if it were cgi in the vein of ratatouliee...
Just...wow. I absolutely flippin' loved it! I don't think I've ever laughed so hard during a Disney film! In a Disney/Pixar film perhaps, but never a proper Disney film. This film just had everything as far as I'm concerned. Seriously, my only negative is that I wished that certain characters had more screen time (Dr Facilier and Lottie to be exact). So other than that, it was totally perfect in my opinion.
:P I just...can't stop smiling when I think about it.
I just saw the Princess and the Frog. It was good. There was a lot I liked about it. The city scenes. The New Orleans music. The characters Louis and Ray. The fact that it was all drawn by hand, and not simulated on and rendered by computers.
Unfortunately, I found the Princess herself very boring and unappealing. Tiana seemed to lack a sense of humour and was obsessed with the idea that, because she had worked so hard, the World somehow owed her a massive restaurant. Not exactly charming like Ariel or Belle.
Comparing it to past animated feature films, I thought it was better than Treasure Planet and Mulan, but not a patch on Tarzan or Aladdin. Sorry guys.
Quote from: "Alan"Unfortunately, I found the Princess herself very boring and unappealing. Tiana seemed to lack a sense of humour and was obsessed with the idea that, because she had worked so hard, the World somehow owed her a massive restaurant. Not exactly charming like Ariel or Belle.
Yes, I had a somewhat similar thought when I saw the film a second time. Well, not that she thought the world owed her a restaurant, but she is a bit like a broken record. Work hard... Daddy... Work hard... Daddy...
Well, this afternoon was our family afternoon to head off to the 'Vue' Cinema to see 'The Princess & The Frog'. This is a fab film, worth the money. For the past week or so I'd been listening to the soundtrack in the car, which got me really hooked on a lot of the tracks.. :mrgreen:
Seeing the film to how these musical tracks are slotted against the animation was brilliant, it certainly had me foot tapping throughtout the film. I'm not really into Jazz and Blues that much as far as music goes, but this I really like for some reason. It also has a resonance of walking down Mainstreet at DLRP.. :mrgreen:
I thought the storyline kept flowing on an even pace, with the music scores fitting in just right. So yeah, I'd give this one a very high mark and would recommend it as a big screen watch, a very colourful film, with a nice and fitting change back to the original Disney 2D animation.. =D> =D> =D>
I'll definitely be owning it when it comes out on DVD.. :wink: :D
Quote from: "pussinboots"Yes, I had a somewhat similar thought when I saw the film a second time. Well, not that she thought the world owed her a restaurant, but she is a bit like a broken record. Work hard... Daddy... Work hard... Daddy...
You could say that's what makes the whole encounter with Naveen worthwhile. It's only then as a frog that she changes her tune and starts thinking about the bigger picture. Maybe a lead character like this should never be anything but perfect, or maybe it's quite refreshing to see a "Disney princess" who has some self-inflicted human flaws. Not sure myself.
Talking of the Princess and the Frog I come across these.. :D
The Making of a Classic>>
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Anika Noni Rose: 'A different type of Princess'>>
[youtube:3lmarw1u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEti_ltoeA[/youtube:3lmarw1u]
Princess and the Frog - Music & Animation>>
[youtube:3lmarw1u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFxqlc8SbJE[/youtube:3lmarw1u]
The Music of 'The Princess and the Frog'>>
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Speaking of hand drawn animation, if you really are into animation then you need to check out Ponyo. The film came out in Japan in July 2008 and is finally being released in cinemas here in the UK. Ponyo was directed by Hayao Miyazaki, a close friend of John Lasseter's, and is being distributed by Walt Disney Pictures.
I hate to say this but I think Ponyo is actually a better film than The Princess And The Frog. A lot of others agree. Ponyo got 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, whereas The Princess And The Frog got 85%.
Check out the trailer. Beautiful, beautiful film:
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I saw the film the weekend it came out, and I loved it! I'm so happy to see Disney return to what they (in my opinion) do best with the 2D animation. Like people seem to have said, I'm not sure the songs would really hold up as "stand-alone" songs, but mixed in with the film's setting they worked perfectly, and I loved the whole jazzy feel to them. All in all I felt the music was something a bit new and different, while still retaining the essence of what is Disney :) As for the characters, I loved Louis and Ray, Naveen was hilarious in his frog form, and Facilier was just what a Disney villain should be. The range of emotions that can be traversed in a Disney film never cease to amaze me; I laughed, got scared, was in suspense and yes, cried! (Will put this bit in a spoiler in case anyone hasn't seen the film yet!) [spoiler:2newuza3]"Ma belle Evangeline" had me in floods, it was so poignant that Ray was in love with a star, and when he died and appeared in the sky next to "her", oh dear was I bawling!!!! :cry:[/spoiler:2newuza3] All in all I would say this is a must-see, there really is something for everyone in this - I went to see it with my boyfriend, who is in no way a Disney fan, and even he liked it - I even caught him chuckling in a few parts!!! ;)
More like this please, Disney! Simply gorgeous!
I went and saw this today with my family as well, and as a 17 year old boy (not really the target market for this film!), I have to say that I absolutely loved it. It was funny, entertaining, had great music, a great cast, set of characters, story and a lot of emotion too (although I didn't cry like SWG, by I did well up a bit if I'm honest - just don't tell that to the guys :wink: ). This was a true Disney Classic film - exactly what the company needed (not wanted; I guess they had to dig a little deeper! :P ) to produce. I also had fun trying to spot the nods to other Disney films too (I definitely saw the flying carpet, I definitely picked up on the Randy Newman moment, I think I saw a few references to The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Sleeping Beauty and Peter Pan too!).
Overall, a fantastic piece of work! Bravo Disney, Bravo =D>
I LOVE this film!! saw it three times in the cinemas and trying to see it again some morning if its on..
i just love the fact its a classic princess movie.. but its so new so the humour is up to date and as a 17 year old I think I enjoyed it more than most of the younger children in the theatre !
I bought the soundtrack before the film came out.. and after reading a review that said that the songs were unmemorable.. i completely disagree.. I can listen to the cd over and over and love every song !
The only think I would say is that there isn't exactly a 'Princess song' like Sleeping Beauty-once upon a dream, Cinderella- so this is love, Aladdin - a whole new world..etc..
she has 'Almost there' but its more about her working hard rather than falling in love..which i guess is nice and modern however I think a nice duet between Naveen and Tiana would have completed the movie.
I loved all the other disney film references :D and oooh i cant wait until my DVD comes because I want to watch it again and again :D:D:D:D:D
Well done disney !
My DVD's been dispatched!! I'm very excited :D
I totally agree with you Natalie, I love EVERY song on the soundtrack!
Ooooh lucky you ! I got mine from hmv so I'll get a free PATF keychain :D yesssssss!! Hehe, what's your favourite song from the album ? I think mine is down in new Orleans finale because I love how upbeat it is and it reminds me of the happy ending :D. 'tiana's palace' ahhhh :DDDD xx
Quote from: "_Natalie_x"Ooooh lucky you ! I got mine from hmv so I'll get a free PATF keychain :D yesssssss!! Hehe, what's your favourite song from the album ? I think mine is down in new Orleans finale because I love how upbeat it is and it reminds me of the happy ending :D. 'tiana's palace' ahhhh :DDDD xx
My favourite from the album, for the very same reason.. ;) :D Spooky that.. :shock:
and mine! also "Almost There" :D
I finally seen The Princess and the Frog today ... better late than never lol! I watched it with a friend who is a big Disney fan too.
We both liked the film but both said we couldn't imagine it being a classic like beauty and the beast or anything, however maybe that is just because we are now viewing these films first time as adults. We also found it hard to imagine Tiana fitting into the classic princesses esp as she pretty much spends 90% of the film as a frog lol.
We both really enjoyed the music, even if it was hard to understand the words at times lol! :P
The one thing we found really wrong with the film was how creepy and frightening this movie must seem to a young child watching (the villians parts)! I know if I had of seen this as a young child it would have really scared me. We were both surprised just how scarey Disney made the bad characters. Obviously as adults its not scarey but to a young mind it would be.
OF course the part of the film involving Ray(mond) near the end had us both crying our eyes out!! so much so that we could hardly take in the rest of the film!! sooooo upsetting but done brilliantly too!
Out of 10 I would probably give it a 7 or 8 which is pretty good I think! :D
I've watched the Princess and the Frog three additional times now, since my first review. And you know what, it's totally grown on me. I think with a musical, the more familiar with the songs you are, the more you enjoy it and appreciate it. The first time you see a musical, the songs are a little too alien and too unpredictable.
So, the Princess and the Frog, great film. I love it. It beats Pixar films in a number of ways: it has original songs, it has a very fast pace, it has very artistic backgrounds, and it has a great villain.
Now I just wish Disney would re-do Splash Mountain with a Princess and the Frog theme, instead of Song of the South. It's a perfect match.
I totally agree! I think Splash Mountain with a P&TF theme would be stunning! And a unique attraction to DLP.
Quote from: "Alan"Now I just wish Disney would re-do Splash Mountain with a Princess and the Frog theme, instead of Song of the South. It's a perfect match.
Hey that's not a bad idea! Especially for Disneyland where I believe it's practically on top of the Haunted Mansion/New Orleans Square. Although there'd be a fan backlash about erasing Song of the South, surely.
@Anthony
Yes, over at Disneyland in California, both the Haunted Mansion and PIrates of the Caribbean are located in New Orleans Square. And like you said, Splash Mountain is located right next door to the Haunted Mansion. So if they gave Splash Mountain a Princess and the Frog retheme over there, it'd all tie together quite nicely.
But what I really meant was, Disney building a NEW Splash Mountain with a Princess and the Frog theme, such as in Disneyland Paris. It's no secret that Disney aren't exactly happy with the movie Song of the South; just try buying it on DVD. It could be a factor preventing them from building any future Splash Mountain rides. So why not take out the troublesome Song of the South theme and replace it with the Princess and the Frog?
The Princess and the Frog is SO compatible with the concept and overall theme of Splash Mountain. It's a perfect fit. They could even keep the name. It's not as if it's called Song of the South Mountain, or Brer Rabbit Mountain.
Another reason to bring it to Paris is because of New Orleans' French heritage and French Creole architecture. The dialogue in the ride could be 50/50 English and French, and it would sound so natural.
Some people would tell you that the Princess and the Frog wasn't a big enough success to warrant building a major attraction based on it. However, if you go by reviews, the Princess and the Frog got 84% on Rotten Tomatoes. Cars, on the other hand, only got 74%. And exactly HOW much money are Disney spending building an entire Cars Land over at Disney California Adventure? They're investing a lot of money and confidence in a Pixar movie that, if you go by reviews, was worse than a purely Disney one.
Really, this movie seems like a great opportunity to finally bring Splash Mountain to Disneyland Paris.
Quote from: "Alan"@Anthony
Yes, over at Disneyland in California, both the Haunted Mansion and PIrates of the Caribbean are located in New Orleans Square. And like you said, Splash Mountain is located right next door to the Haunted Mansion. So if they gave Splash Mountain a Princess and the Frog retheme over there, it'd all tie together quite nicely.
But what I really meant was, Disney building a NEW Splash Mountain with a Princess and the Frog theme, such as in Disneyland Paris. It's no secret that Disney aren't exactly happy with the movie Song of the South; just try buying it on DVD. It could be a factor preventing them from building any future Splash Mountain rides. So why not take out the troublesome Song of the South theme and replace it with the Princess and the Frog?
The Princess and the Frog is SO compatible with the concept and overall theme of Splash Mountain. It's a perfect fit. They could even keep the name. It's not as if it's called Song of the South Mountain, or Brer Rabbit Mountain.
Another reason to bring it to Paris is because of New Orleans' French heritage and French Creole architecture. The dialogue in the ride could be 50/50 English and French, and it would sound so natural.
Some people would tell you that the Princess and the Frog wasn't a big enough success to warrant building a major attraction based on it. However, if you go by reviews, the Princess and the Frog got 84% on Rotten Tomatoes. Cars, on the other hand, only got 74%. And exactly HOW much money are Disney spending building an entire Cars Land over at Disney California Adventure? They're investing a lot of money and confidence in a Pixar movie that, if you go by reviews, was worse than a purely Disney one.
Really, this movie seems like a great opportunity to finally bring Splash Mountain to Disneyland Paris.
All good points but.....Paris will never get an outdoor water ride because the weather isn't good enough (not even a jungle cruse) and as for 'Cars', well its been a merchandising dream making mega bucks with all the toys and clothes. It's great to see Tiana strutting her stuff in Showtime Spectacular though and I agree the song from the movie makes a great toe tapping end to the show
Quote from: "Alan"Really, this movie seems like a great opportunity to finally bring Splash Mountain to Disneyland Paris.
Can a New Orleans bayou really fit inside Paris' Frontierland though? I don't know, as much as I like the idea, it might be a bit of a leap from Cottonwood Creek Ranch/Pueblo Trading Post to this 1920s era Southern Disney princess unless it was done carefully.
"Gonna take you there" would make an awesome soundtrack though, one to rival it's a small world! And you could have some wonderfully artistic and wild scenes with Dr Facilier and transforming frogs... lots of special effects. Lots of fireflies.
There's so much to say :-)
@MattBoyWonder
The weather isn't good enough in Paris for an outdoor water ride? But what about Tokyo Disneyland. Tokyo is supposed to have a similar climate, and they've got Splash Mountain. Also, an outdoor water ride doesn't need to get you wet. It can be designed to run "dry", but have controllable splashes added via water jets.
Good point about Cars. I wonder how much money Disney makes from Cars merchandise vs Princess and the Frog merchandise?
@Anthony
Can a New Orleans Square fit in Disneyland Paris' Frontierland? If the west end of Frontierland was turned into New Orleans Square, making Frontierland smaller, then the answer is yes. As I said in a previous post, the Cowboy Cookout Barbecue could be turned into Tiana's Place. Both buildings have a similar shape.
"Gonna Take You There" would be a great song for a Princess and the Frog ride. "Down In New Orleans" and "When We're Human" would work great too. Splash Mountain is built around 4 songs. There's plenty of material in the Princess and the Frog to replace Splash Mountain's songs with.
If the exact same layout of Splash Mountain was used, then the entire Laughing Place section could be replaced with a Dr Facilier "Friends On The Other Side" scene, leading up to the final lift hill. That whole scene could be totally lit with black light and be very surreal and artistic, like you said.
And the last scene of the ride, the final visual you see just before you get out of your log, would have to be the night sky with two stars in it :-)
Btw, if you like the style of music in The Princess and the Frog, then you might want to check out the album "Songs I Heard" by Harry Connick, Jr. He did some covers of some songs from Mary Poppins, in a New Orleans Jazz style:
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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A Spoonful of Sugar
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Once again, I just want to remind people that what I'm discussing here is bringing Splash Mountain to Disneyland Paris with a Princess and the Frog theme; NOT retheming Splash Mountain in either Disneyland or Walt Disney World.
Anyway, you know the part in Splash Mountain at Walt Disney World where you're travelling along to the song "Ev'rybody Has a Laughing Place". The characters are asking, "where is this secret laughing place Brer Rabbit's talking about?". Then you go into a black hole and down a bunny-hop drop into a blacklit scene with a beehive. That bit?
Well, the Princess and the Frog equivalent of that could go something like this. You're travelling along to the song "Gonna Take You There" with the very appropriate lyrics "we're gonna take ya down". There could be fibre optic fireflies overhead, twinkling and leading the way. Then Louis the alligator says something like, "I know a shortcut". Just at the last moment as you enter the black hole, Ray can be heard saying "first rule of the bayou, never take direction from a gatoooooooor."
Then you go down the bunny-hop drop, and pop up in a spooky blacklit parlour where you first meet Dr. Facilier. He says something (don't know what). The small drop after that short scene then takes you into the "Friends on the Other Side" scene, which replaces the flooded "Ev'rybody Has a Laughing Place" scene with the jumping fountains, frogs, turtles and gophers.
Another thing. Just before you come back into the load/unload area on Splash Mountain, there are three quotes painted on the wall: "It's the truth. it's actual...", "Everything is Satisfactual" and "It's a Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah Day". Well these could be replaced by some quotes from the Princess and the Frog. Here are some ideas:
"Make a wish and hold on tight. There's magic in the air tonight"
"You wanna do some livin' before you die. Do it down in New Orleans"
"Rich people, old people, all got dreams. Dreams do come true in New Orleans"
"Life is short. When you're done, you're done. We're on this earth, to have some fun"
"What you give is what you get. My daddy said that and I'll never forget"
"When you find out who you are, you'll find out what you need"
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This would work so well they could have a jazz band playing in Tiana's place and put in another riverboat landing!
Let's hope some of the imagineers at disneyland read this! Maybe the reason it hasn't been done yet is they couldn't find the right theme!
On the Adventure land side they could have swamp themeing to help with the trasition into the area and tucked away in that corner of Frontierland it wouldn't be too much of an impact on the big thunder messa area.
This is interesting. I found an old video from 1999 of a Jazz Band playing on Main Street, U.S.A. at Disneyland Paris. The clothes the guys are wearing are very similar to what Prince Naveen is wearing when we first see him in the Princess and the Frog. Have a look.
My point is, wouldn't it be great to have the same band performing in New Orleans Square at Disneyland Paris, right by the Princess and the Frog version of Splash Mountain?
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Quote from: "Alan"My point is, wouldn't it be great to have the same band performing in New Orleans Square at Disneyland Paris, right by the Princess and the Frog version of Splash Mountain?
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In a word: YES!
What a great clip, that music was so good!
I think Disneyland Paris needs Splash Mountain.
Weather has nothing to do with it. Most theme parks around the world have log flumes.
I thought I'd resurrect this discussion. If you look at this interview with Tony Baxter from May 2011, he discusses his desire to do a Princess and the Frog attraction. Here's his response to the question, "what other Disney property do you think also deserves its own attraction?"
"I think, even, Princess and the Frog. We've got the only park with New Orleans. And I loved when they had the Riverboat Review last year, and I'd love to make an attraction out of that."
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I'm glad that video has popped back up, I remember getting so excited over it when it was originally uploaded.
The Princess & the Frog is an amazing film and easily one of my favourites, though the likely hood of it reaching DLP is small, since EuroDisney are focusing on WDS for the next ten years or so I doubt Disneyland Park will see a new attraction for a long, long time. In saying that, it took over 20 years to get a Little Mermaid attraction opened, from when it was released back in 1989 - so there's no reason why in 10+ plus years we wouldn't have a Princess & the Frog attraction.
Here we are 10 years later...
I thought it would be fun to resurrect this discussion now that:
1. Splash Mountain really IS going to be rethemed to The Princess and the Frog 😵
2. I've written a NEW 4066 word article all about it, which actually references this discussion here on the DLPGuide Forum 🕰
You can check it out on Medium:
Splash Mountain II: Dreams Do Come True
➡️ https://medium.com/@CafeFantasia/splash-mountain-ii-dreams-do-come-true-99d406beee8b
I hope you enjoy reading it, I hope you're satisfied. 😀 But if you ain't, don't blame me...