Poll
Question:
What park do you want?
Option 1: Epcot
votes: 9
Option 2: Animal Kingdom
votes: 12
Option 3: Disney Sea
votes: 13
Option 4: Something new
votes: 31
If Disneyland resort Paris could have a third park, what could it be? :-k
-an "Epcot "?
-an "Animal Kingdom"?
-a "Disney Sea"?
-or something totally new?
I think they could do something like Discovery land but as big as a park.
What about that proposed The Little Mermaid theme park that the WDC has up their sleeves for the Asian market...
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Yes that could be a good idea, the small town will be a kind of main street and the Little mermaid palace at the center of the park.
Sounds as a great idea, but what about something more "watery"??? It isn't the perfect climate for it, but it could be a nice expansion and add-on to DLRP.
i agree, there should be something new, theres the disneyland park and walt disney studios park maybe a disney sea park that has world showcase from epcot in it so illuminations: reflections of earth could be at paris too.
I would love to see an animal kingdom at the resort, but i doubt the animals would adapt to our weather.
So something new would be a great idea. :)
At the moment I just think that they should keep it as it is and continue to expand the Studios.
What is the point of having a new park when one of the parks isn't fully developed yet. We need to wait.
Quote from: "disneymadchris"At the moment I just think that they should keep it as it is and continue to expand the Studios.
What is the point of having a new park when one of the parks isn't fully developed yet. We need to wait.
Unfortunately, Disney have a contractual obligation with the French government to open another gate every so often(don't know exactly how long), despite available budget- hence Walt Disney Studios. I believe a third gate has to open by 2011(again, not sure about this), hopefully they will build a decent park and not make the same mistake twice.
Wait... this is Disney, of course they'll make the same mistake twice! :evil:
how exciting , i would love to see a park with some sort of animal theming rides like a bugs life ,lion king and winnie the pooh maybe add some water themeing nemo and the little mermaid.
a animal farm with home on the range theme,bring in some classics like bambi and fox and the hound what a park that would be :!:
:nemo:
what about some kind of Pixar land with rides on the different Pixar movies?
That's Walt Disney Studios Park here already... :lol:
hmmm a 3d gate would be nice but first they have to add more to the studios. i think they have to start on 2015 and open it to the 25th birthday of the resort. i would love to see something new but with a touch of world showcase/ disney sea/ animal kingdom!!
i have seen a few ideas for a animal kingdom and epcot park but something new will be even better
Quote from: "Lordofthemightybeasts"Quote from: "disneymadchris"At the moment I just think that they should keep it as it is and continue to expand the Studios.
What is the point of having a new park when one of the parks isn't fully developed yet. We need to wait.
Unfortunately, Disney have a contractual obligation with the French government to open another gate every so often(don't know exactly how long), despite available budget- hence Walt Disney Studios. I believe a third gate has to open by 2011(again, not sure about this), hopefully they will build a decent park and not make the same mistake twice.
Wait... this is Disney, of course they'll make the same mistake twice! :evil:
Oh well if I have to choose it would be something new.
Any idea where this new park would go in the resort?
I myself rule out animal kingdom, because of the weather, and epcot, because of the many languages.
so I dont have a clue what they will build, hope its disney sea-ish
So an updated version of Disney Sea with a world showcase seems to be what most of you want, it could be an excelent idea.
The duplicating (of sorts) of Tokyo Disney Seas would be an incredible second try for Disney.
Hmmm. Paris DisneySeas? Dunno. Don't sound too right, right now, LOL.
:wink:
(And the rainy inclement {local} weather would def. work to a water-themed park's um... atmospheric surroundings? Heh heh heh.)
:D It´s Tokyo, not florida :wink: So the weather isn´t so much better
Why is the weather such a big problem for an animal park. We have lots of Zoo's and Safari Park's around the UK, most of which stay open all year round except for Christmas Day. I don't see why weather would be a problem at Disneyland Paris.
weather isnt a problem for most animals the only ones that would need to be enclosed would be reptiles and amphibians!!!!......and fish unless of course they want an orca or 2 then they may have a problem!!!!
but it would probably be the most profitable park because for example if they get gorillas breeding, if they sell the babys they would be £60,000 each £20,000 for things like giraffes etc.
okay an animal kingdom would be nice i love the park in the states but i think is not so good when paris get any copys of a existing park!!
we need something new, or somthing with copys from all existing disney parks around the globe..
i have a little idea for a third park, it´s a bit of disneysea, california adventures, animal kingdom and epcot!!
the park have 4-5 islands, one calles "Atlantis island" and it is in the middle of the park it looks like the city from the movie and have 2 great dark rides and a lot of shops and restaurants. the entree is the "world island" with bouldings from all nations 3 rides, shops and restaurants. on the right side is "misterious island" u see the old egypt, the old greek and the old china with the storys and world woders. on the left side from world island is animal island u see the animals from all around the world and the dinosaur´s!!!
Where would this new park go in the resort?
Quote from: "disneymadchris"Where would this new park go in the resort?
intresting question? i was wondering that ?
and also when would it be built by?
I guess maybe where the car park is at the moment but I don't really know. :?
The original 3rd gate was planned for one of three different locations:
a) The large area of land below Newport Bay Club and Sequoia Lodge, on your right as you enter the resort via the parking lot gate.
b) The current car park, forming theme parks on every angle.
c) The spot were the Nature Villages are now going, by Davy Crockett.
I think a is the one they planned most for. You can see it shaded out lower right on the following map (plus the circular Lava Lagoon just above it, next to the extension of Lake Disney):
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It would have been a Paris version of Westcot.
any idea when this will begin ?
QuoteSi au premier janvier 2011, la société pivot n'a pas engagé les travaux correspondant à la réalisation d'une extension majeure du parc ou d'une seconde attraction majeure (parc à thème) susceptible d'attirer chaque année des millions de visiteurs supplémentaires, l'EPA pourra commercialiser les terrains affectés au deuxième Parc, non utilisés, en les proposant à un tiers ou la société pivot.
That's a quote from the agreement between TWDC and the French government. It basically says that construction on a major project (theme park) should start before the beginning of January 2011. If this does not happen, the ground would be sold.
Something new would be great, me being a great fan of the Disney villains, how bout a park dedicated to them with all sorts of creepy rides, of course not to scary it should still be ok for little children to visit it too, though I do envision this as the part that's particularly fun for adults and thrill seekers
So if work has to be begun before 2011, how realistic is it that this would happen given the current state of the resort? Are there any chances that they could opt for an extension to aviod loosing the land?
Is Epcot the park with the separate countries? I love shopping there!
yup thats Epcot.
Disney will want the land and so they will have to work on it by 2011. Disney studios was already planned in 1992 i think before it was scrapped for financial resons and then was brought up again.
According to this french goverment agreement though how many parks would disney be getting? Is the 3rd park the last or what?
Well I think it should be Animal Kingdom but the weather might be too cold in the Winter to the animals well if DLRP does do Animal Kingdom then I think they should have these rides and shows:
Festival of the Lion King
Expidion Everest (Might be too instence for younger riders)
DINOSAUR (Might be too instence for younger riders)
Pocahontas le Spectale
It's tough to be a bug (Might be too instence for younger riders)
Tarzan Rocks! (Even tough I hate that show)
Journey into the Jungle Book
That's all I thought about!!!!
Quote from: "TowMater"Well I think it should be Animal Kingdom but the weather might be too cold in the Winter to the animals well if DLRP does do Animal Kingdom then I think they should have these rides and shows:
Festival of the Lion King
Expidion Everest (Might be too instence for younger riders)
DINOSAUR (Might be too instence for younger riders)
Pocahontas le Spectale
It's tough to be a bug (Might be too instence for younger riders)
Tarzan Rocks! (Even tough I hate that show)
Journey into the Jungle Book
That's all I thought about!!!!
Everest may be too intense for younger riders but Disney has to appeal to the whole family, an to a teenager/adult that type of ride is perfect for them.
Besides Everest is quite a good ride.
I definatley like the idea of something new but they could incoperate some familliar rides or attractions as well.
i love WORLD SHOWCASE from EPCOT at least with it you get rides-dining opertunities and places to shop all in one place.
something like DISNEY SEA which is very different to all the other parks would be a good way to go and then in one of the lakes around the park they could put WORLD SHOWCASE in also some sort of stunt show like INDIANA JONES or an up to date one like PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN with sword fighting and other stunts would be good in the park.
Quote from: "raptor1982"QuoteSi au premier janvier 2011, la société pivot n'a pas engagé les travaux correspondant à la réalisation d'une extension majeure du parc ou d'une seconde attraction majeure (parc à thème) susceptible d'attirer chaque année des millions de visiteurs supplémentaires, l'EPA pourra commercialiser les terrains affectés au deuxième Parc, non utilisés, en les proposant à un tiers ou la société pivot.
That's a quote from the agreement between TWDC and the French government. It basically says that construction on a major project (theme park) should start before the beginning of January 2011. If this does not happen, the ground would be sold.
Sorry to bring a dead topic back up raptor, but is this still true ?
Will we have a thrid gate being built within the next 3 years ?
Considering how little money dlrp has made, i think it would make more sense for them to sell the land (which has risen MASSIVELY in value) and use the money to expand and improve the current parks. Which would you prefer;
a) another new park (which would probably be just as dissappointing as WDS was when it opened-
or
b) big new developments in the resort (possibly including new hotel? new lands? new e-tickets?)
i know which one i'd choose (indiana jones? splash mountain? Journey to the centre of the earth?)
Quote from: "davidrsykes"Considering how little money dlrp has made, i think it would make more sense for them to sell the land (which has risen MASSIVELY in value) and use the money to expand and improve the current parks. Which would you prefer;
a) another new park (which would probably be just as dissappointing as WDS was when it opened-
or
b) big new developments in the resort (possibly including new hotel? new lands? new e-tickets?)
i know which one i'd choose (indiana jones? splash mountain? Journey to the centre of the earth?)
Yes but then your talking about dlrp losing some very good land for a future 3rd gate or hotels. Plus anything could be built there if they did sell it.
QuoteConsidering how little money dlrp has made,
They're making TONS and TONS of money since '92. Only issues are the debts since the resort was constructed.
Quotei think it would make more sense for them to sell the land (which has risen MASSIVELY in value) and use the money to expand and improve the current parks. Which would you prefer;
[-X They can't just sell the land... Euro Disney SCA has to stick to the agreement with the French government which calls for the investment of a large attraction or park that will attract millions of guests additionally. (translated literally from the agreement).
Quoteanother new park (which would probably be just as dissappointing as WDS was when it opened-
Why? Don't you think they would have learned their lesson by now with DCA and WDS?
But wasn't the agreement was for a third gate by 2017 OR be forced to sell the land? If they just wait until 2017, then sell when they are made to they could pocket a lot of money. (if those are the terms of the agreement)
i can understand all the reasons why selling would be a bad idea- and it would kind of ruin the atmosphere if you had a massive building towering over fantasyland for example. but are they even expecting to be able to be able to start construction by 2011 considering how far behind schedule they were with the opening of WDS?
And considering that they still haven't cleared the debts they made 16 years ago; making that debt even bigger would be risky. - mind you, more parks equals more visitors & hotel guests. An important thing to work out would be if WDS has paid for itself yet (or how close is it to doing so)- that would show whether or not another gate would be a good investment.
but thats all boring businessy stuff anyway- and as we all know, sound business practice kind of goes out the window when it comes to disney, so they probably will just go for it anyway. :D
QuoteBut wasn't the agreement was for a third gate by 2017 OR be forced to sell the land?
No, the French government would
take the land and sell it to a third party.
wow! shut my mouth! :? I guess their gonna have to build whether they like it or not then
Im not sure if i want another park its quite nice how its small. You would also have to come for longer to fit it all in. :?
Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"Im not sure if i want another park its quite nice how its small. You would also have to come for longer to fit it all in. :?
I think I agree with you. It is OK how it is and maybe they should expand the Walt Disney Studios more before they think about building a new one, although the plans for Westcot do look great.
Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"Im not sure if i want another park its quite nice how its small. You would also have to come for longer to fit it all in. :?
But isnt that what we want, the "Walt Disney World" for europe ?
Quote from: "Owain"Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"Im not sure if i want another park its quite nice how its small. You would also have to come for longer to fit it all in. :?
But isnt that what we want, the "Walt Disney World" for europe ?
Besides... If Disney won't build a third park, the government will take the land and sell it. Even a competitor could build there (unless they made a deal about that).
Quote from: "Owain"Quote from: "disneyloverjessie"Im not sure if i want another park its quite nice how its small. You would also have to come for longer to fit it all in. :?
But isnt that what we want, the "Walt Disney World" for europe ?
I dont i like going on a short one week break to disney it wont be the same if it turns into a sort of summer holiday.
QuoteBut isnt that what we want, the "Walt Disney World" for europe ?
uhm yes i want it, and it was the plan of the walt disney company that Eurodisney will have 3 parks 1 water park and a lot of hotels....
i think it will be stupit to loose this land and dont built an 3rd park there with new hotels.
here's a question for you; will the water park (lava lagoon) count as a third gate? cos i imagine that would be cheaper than building a whole theme park, and it would be AWESOME!
as i can remember lava lagoon will count as a third gate, but im not really
sure.
I read often that lava laggon is just for the hotel guests from the hotel cheyenne and santa fee!!!
No, lava lagoon was not the third gate.
Would be nice to have a 3rd gate. Someone needs to break the two-park curse (Tokyo, Anaheim and Paris, 2-park resorts) Will Hong Kong get a 2nd park soon?
I think Paris should be the next Disney World. Open a third gate, and a water park and I think given the location, that's a perfect amount.
Would be great if you guys got an original park. One that doesn't borrow attractions from all other parks and sticks it all together (like DCA, that park has a ride from just about every park in Disney World!)
Good luck to DLRP!
-Garrett
I really want a disney themed water park!!! I know we dont really have the weather for it but who cares? its DISNEY lol
can anyone tell me what lava laggon is? is it already there? i just got back and will be soooo dissapointed if it is :-(
I would like to see an expedtition everest tho (even if i was too scared to go on it)
If you do a google image search you can get some plans for it really easily. I'm sure you'll agree that it looks pretty darn awesome
in fact http://www.disneytheque.com/index.php?/ ... eries.html (http://www.disneytheque.com/index.php?/pages/galeries.html) have a couple of concept plans if you click on project oubiles (or whatever), then lava lagoon