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This is our official
magicforum discussion topic for the
20th Anniversary of Disneyland Paris, launching 1st April 2012! The celebration will bring new events and entertainments for the parks, including a major new nighttime spectacular in Disneyland Park and a new reworking of the popular daytime parade.
We have separate topics for specific elements of the anniversary:- Disney Dreams! (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945)
The brand new, must-see nighttime spectacular to end every day at Disneyland Park!
- Disney Magic on Parade! (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12499)
A refreshed and reworked retelling of Disney's Once Upon a Dream Parade.
- Meet Mickey Mouse (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11549)
An all-new, permanent, "backstage" place to encounter Mickey Mouse himself! Opens May.
- Main Street, U.S.A. Celebrates! (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12838)
Main Street joins the celebration with golden decorations and special "glowings on" everywhere.
- Disney's 20th Anniversary Celebration Train (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12654)
The character favourite returns with another new look and an original song.
- "Magic Everywhere!" - new theme song (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12816)
A new original song to be used as the theme of Disney Magic on Parade! and anniversary events.
- Official 20th Anniversary website (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12829)
Discuss the online advertising and special website for the anniversary celebrations.
- Disneyland Paris Generations website (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13025)
A new website inviting fans and visitors to share their memories in a giant online timeline.
- Disneyland Paris: 20 Years of Dreams book (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13172)
Over 500 photos detail the first two decades of Disneyland Paris history in this new 192-page book.
- Special Restaurant Menus & Dreams Dinner (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12873)
Several restaurants are offering special menus for the 20th, including Disney Dreams! dining packages.
- 12th April 2012 (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12961)
Share your experiences and discuss the big day itself - exactly 20 years since the park opened.
- Tony Baxter "From Concept to Reality" event (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13141)
On 12th April 2012, the lead Imagineer of Euro Disneyland returned for a special presentation - watch it here!
- Q&A with Kat de Blois, Katy Harris & Steve Davison (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13075)
See Steve Davison, Katy Harris and Kat de Blois discuss Disney Dreams and the new 20th events!
- 20 Years of Magic - flashbacks & history (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12854)
Share and discuss moments of Disneyland Paris history dug out from the archives
Please use this topic for all general 20th Anniversary news and discussion, from branding to brochures, decorations to promotions, and everything in between!
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The official topic for DLRP's 20th anniversary in 2012!
Today, the first logo's were revealed on Disney Central Plaza!
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Thanks for the logos. I have to admit that I like the first one, although I would have preferred the castle to be a little bit bigger.
Funny, I showed my wife and she said it looked like the 15th (though that was cool). But the gold writing and tinkerbell on top like the castle. Lol. I said, it could be worse, there could be loads of characters!!! I quite like it I think.
I rather like the! Love the Tinkerbell one with the swirls underneath.
I don't get it. What's it trying to tell me? Most Disney anniversary logos tie into the year's theme. This is utterly bland. It also doesn't really work graphically speaking, as the 3D, heavily-detailed Tinkerbell becomes a fudgey green smear when, say, printed in the corner of a newsletter. Helvetica was designed to be cold and neutral, so is a very odd choice for this.
What do we actually already know about what's going to happen during 2012?
- Opening WoD Store in the Disney Village
- Jack Sparrow AA's in PotC
- ...
I wasn't expecting we'd see this so early! I love it!
There's a few flags on the roofs of the castle. I wonder if that's what we'll be seeing for the latest augmentation of the castle. :)
I like it! Its simple but very bold.
Goodmorning.
Sorry people, but I dont like it and I admit that I was looking forward to 20th aniv. logo.
I only like the second one, a little bit.
The first one is too much/heavy for me: no 20 (so bold and I am starting to get bored with this yellow-gold colour), circles, fireworks, Tinkerbell, the castle with a hart on a top, dark-blu sky and stars :roll:
It makes my eyes tired, if you know what I mean.
I feel that there is no inspiration here. Only many artistic thinks together.
15th logo had something.
I'm also underwhelmed... DLP marketing seems to have a thing for Helvetica and other sans serif types these days, but those really don't got too well with the product they're trying to sell. It's a bit like an iPad logo using blackletter...
I'd have preferred if they had at least created a new vector castle graphic rather than reuse that so-so illustration from the 15th anniversary logo.
The castle should have had more prominence.
Quote from: "DGRavenswood"I'd have preferred if they had at least created a new vector castle graphic rather than reuse that so-so illustration from the 15th anniversary logo.
Ah, I thought it looked familiar, and that was the one bit I kind of liked. The "15th" emblem was where the odd blue rooftop is, and that's why the artist failed to put in any detail in that particular area...
They've been a little bit lazy this time around.
Quote from: "JelleP"What do we actually already know about what's going to happen during 2012?
- Opening WoD Store in the Disney Village
- Jack Sparrow AA's in PotC
- ...
- new Sleeping Beauty Castle in the Sky (big thing in brochures)
- new paving (photolocation)
- new part of Adventureland - Captain Hook Ship
Just a little jokes ;) - but DLP can make this things like a BIG NEW ATRACTION for 20th Annniversary (you know that...) ;) :D :twisted:
The colours look very cold to me.It looks almost Christmassy. Even the gold seems washed out. I'd have thought with the more contemporary theme years gone by the'd have used this chance to go a bt more classic.
It could be worse. :)
I love it! At last! They did exactly what they had to do.
I don't know about you but I'm waiting expectantly for this anniversary to begin. I'm praying that everything turns out all right, because I don't want they to create ridiculous shows like the last one in Central Plaza or the misnamed "Fantasmic!" that Tokyo has recently opened.
Quote from: "Lorum"I love it! At last! They did exactly what they had to do.
I don't know about you but I'm waiting expectantly for this anniversary to begin. I'm praying that everything turns out all right, because I don't want they to create ridiculous shows like the last one in Central Plaza or the misnamed "Fantasmic!" that Tokyo has recently opened.
Are you really putting Fantasmic at Tokyo DisneySea on the same level like the bad Central Plaza stage show?
I think they are all right, but still, it does look a bit plain and just having "20" honestly doesn't tell people really what is "20" ... just the addition of a "th" after would help soon.
Plus Tinkerbell ruins it a bit, I do like her, but I just don't think it looks right. :?
I was hoping the logo might veer away from the blue/gold that was so strong during the 15th. Never mind, it looks pretty enough. The fireworks and starry background are nice, and I particularly like the pixie dust trail which has a faint multi-coloured look similar to Tokyo's 25th anniversary stuff. Hopefully they run with that and less of the blue/gold.
Wouldn't it be cool if they came up with a line of retro merchandise like the recent Walt Disney World 40th (//http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/02/walt-disney-worlds-40th-anniversary-merchandise-collage/), using the colours and styles of the 1992 branding? Or is it too soon to go retro on that? (Euro Souvenirland says not ;) )
Quote from: "JelleP"What do we actually already know about what's going to happen during 2012?
- Opening WoD Store in the Disney Village
- Jack Sparrow AA's in PotC
- ...
- Some kind of new evening/nighttime show incorporating fountains in the castle moat: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
You'd hope they'll have
something for the Studios planned too, what with it being the park's 10th anniversary. Something more substantial than a cheesy photolocation.
I actually like them all.
Simple and elegant. Instead of the bold and brash.
Hopefully they are releasing this early so it can be revised according to public opinion!
It's not too bad, it could of been worse!
I just hope that gold wand with a heart shape end which seems to be attached to the top of the castle is not a sign of things to come :? :shock:
Quote from: "pussinboots"Ah, I thought it looked familiar, and that was the one bit I kind of liked. The "15th" emblem was where the odd blue rooftop is, and that's why the artist failed to put in any detail in that particular area...
Exactly... Though it really looks worse when seen up close. Apart from that, I find it kind of jarring between all the flashy 3D imagery -- an edited photograph would have probably worked better in this case.
Quote from: "dagobert"Quote from: "Lorum"I love it! At last! They did exactly what they had to do.
I don't know about you but I'm waiting expectantly for this anniversary to begin. I'm praying that everything turns out all right, because I don't want they to create ridiculous shows like the last one in Central Plaza or the misnamed "Fantasmic!" that Tokyo has recently opened.
Are you really putting Fantasmic at Tokyo DisneySea on the same level like the bad Central Plaza stage show?
No, I can't. Well, on a bigger scale, it's the same botched job.
I kinda see what you mean about Tokyo Fantasmic, it's a perfectly good show if you take the Fantasmic tag off of it, with the addition of the name it links it too much to the more heavily 'stage' based shows, which this one just isn't. It's a great spectacle, but should have been branded as something totally new to make it stand out!
As for the logo, it's fine by me, nice and simple to get the point across, I like the coloured 'ribbon' around it, it'd be nice if that was somehow linked to the year. I can give or take Tink, she feels like an addition for the sake of a character being there. Would much rather have her on a logo, than at the top of the Castle though!
Let's just hope that the rest of the year turns out so 'understated' as this!
Exactly.
Okay, now I get what you mean. Sorry.
They should have given the show a new name. I think that the Tokyo version is a lot better than the shows found in the US parks. I've only seen the one in DHS and I really enjoyed it a lot. That's what DLRP also needs.
DLRP needs new nighttime entertainment. Something huge, spectacular. We need the money, we need the lake, we must really want to work.
Sometimes I think that DLRP has something that doesn't want it to improve, to grow up, to satisfy Disney fans as other parks do (almost once a year). It is not only for the money, there's something we missed here.
Anyway, this discussion is off-topic. Sorry.
Please, excuse my English. :)
Quote from: "Scissorsboi"As for the logo, it's fine by me, nice and simple to get the point across, I like the coloured 'ribbon' around it, it'd be nice if that was somehow linked to the year. I can give or take Tink, she feels like an addition for the sake of a character being there. Would much rather have her on a logo, than at the top of the Castle though!
I disagree with that. She's who you'll always see before the start of a new Disney presentation. Using her here just links with that tradition. :)
Quote from: "Lorum"Please, excuse my English. :)
Actually, your English is very good. :)
She is, but I don't think she belongs on logos, her character never looks 'right' in the parks. Be it a face character, statue or in imagery. I say give her a year off and let Jiminy* be our guide for the 20th..
*because then he can bring back Wishes!
We want Magical! at DLRP for 2012. Not the low-cost version, or a reduced show, no. The complete show.
Does anyone have any idea if they will have the logos illuminated on the lamp posts going up main street like they did for the 15th, I thought they looked amazing at night!
Oh God, please NO! And please scrap the lampposts for good!
Quote from: "pfspock"Oh God, please NO! And please scrap the lampposts for good!
=D> =D> =D> :thumbs: I agree
I liked the lampposts for the 15th birthday, especially when they were illuminated. I know they were too big and interfered with the scale of the buildings, but the light effects were cool.
But I prefere a Main Street without any decorations!
I loved it for the one year. The bad idea was to refer the theme on it all the year(s) later.
I would prefer a fitting Main Street USA decoration. Disneyland Anaheim has normaly good ideas how to get the theme of the land into the decoration.
If they're goona decorate the lamp posts, a better idea would be NO !!! A second good idea would be I SAID NO !! Failing that, have them run parallel to the direction of Main Street so that they dont block the beautiful view of the castle
A few extras...
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "JelleP"What do we actually already know about what's going to happen during 2012?
- Opening WoD Store in the Disney Village
- Jack Sparrow AA's in PotC
- ...
- Some kind of new evening/nighttime show incorporating fountains in the castle moat: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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Princess Pavilion in Fantasyland (which I keep forgetting about): viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9682 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9682%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
- Possibly
Disney Junior Live on Stage! replacing Playhouse Disney unless they do that sooner or not at all?
- And of course, the culmination of all the big refurbishments...
@dlrptoday, a tweeter dedicated to reporting news about the 20th Anniversary, tweeted this an hour ago:
QuoteConfirmed! At the occasion of the 20th anniversary of Disneyland Paris, a new fireworks display is being created for the 2012 Summer Season.
Not sure where it's been confirmed, but sounds exciting.
:thumbs: :thumbs:
Quote from: "Columbiad"Not sure where it's been confirmed, but sounds exciting.
That's the new evening/nighttime show I mentioned. It's been "confirmed" a while really, well - for as long as we've known that this would be the last season of The Enchanted Fireworks - which was the 2nd April Entertainment meeting (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10879), when it was announced a "new type of show" for next year.
I just read on DCP that DLRP might get a "talking" Mickey. Does anyone have any informations about that?
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Yeah, don't limit the show to just fireworks. Sounds quite immersive
Quote from: "dagobert"I just read on DCP that DLRP might get a "talking" Mickey. Does anyone have any informations about that?
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Hmmmm, I actually hope not. It is one of the most expensive costumes Disney has, I would rather they spend their money on proper entertainment.
I'm back! Now before I continue this topic is about any new info about the 20th Anniversary! Do you get what I mean? Well...OK! To make it simpler, if you have any new info or rumors about the 20th Anniversary this is the topic to put it in. Get what I mean? Good! So really all I gotta say! Reply beneath please!
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
Well, there's a twitter account called dlptwenty that gives away rumours. Here's there most recent one:
"The new nighttime hydrotechnic show will not feature fountains, but curtains of water vapor! Our own WOC becomes a little more "Fantasmic"!"
However, the cast member running the InsideDLParis twitter account responded with this message:
"@dlptwenty Are you sure about that ;-)"
So I'm not sure whether this is true or not. XD In fact, the dlptwenty twitter account doesn't seem to mention any sources at all for the rumours that it posts, so I'm not even sure why I'm following it, to be honest. XD
Maybe that's referring to 'are you sure that there won't be fountains'? It seems very odd that they'd put a water screen in front of the castle, those things are huge and would drench the bridge!
Actually, I think they were saying that they would be behind the castle stage, so they should be OK. :)
Well either way a screen of water is a great idea because it could be just like the one in Cars 2! Oops... sorry didn't mean to spoil it! Well when you see Cars 2 you'll know what I mean...
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
Can we expect an anniversary ceremony for April 12th 2012? Plan to go and would like to find out if there's someting special going on that day.
I'm off in March 2012 .. I am assuming that none of the 20th anniversary stuff will kick off until April ?
Well usually partys start at April the 4th so you might not be lucky torillien :(
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
Will it have all changed again by 2013 in may? We went in may this yr and missed the new generation show in front of the castle :-( the new show flew over the top of my children's heads bcz of the language barrier
Michelle
Quote from: "mdw"Will it have all changed again by 2013 in may? We went in may this yr and missed the new generation show in front of the castle :-( the new show flew over the top of my children's heads bcz of the language barrier
Michelle
Well, maybe, maybe not.
Disneyland Paris "festivals" normally run from April to end of March. For the 15th, it officially began on 1 April 2007 and was originally planned to end on 31 March 2008. However, the celebration was extended until 7 March 2009. The celebration was replaced by 'Mickey's Magical Party' from the 4th of April 2009.
So some decoration might stay up, some shows might change, but also might stay. I don't think we'll know until next year. I think it all depends on popularity within the park.
I am hoping the recent Market Research that I took part in has nothing to do with next year, but given that part of it mentioned a new Castle show featuring water, lights and if I recall correctly fire (fireworks perhaps?) it may well have been concerning next year......and here's hoping why not..................
For the research, I was asked to rate two different (but not THAT different!) descriptions of a new theme. One description focussed more on the the word 'monstrous' as in monstrously good fun (still not a grrrreeeattt advertising angle methinks) and made a lot of Monsters Inc and Incredibles references, the other description highlighted a greater range of characters such as Ratatouille, Tangled, BUT Both were highly Pixar dominated and featured those lovely interactive 'happenings':
-A Disney / Pixar focussed Parade
-Monsters Inc Scream Academy 'happenings' (where kids learn to do tricks or something or other)
-Incredibles 'happenings' where kids (again) get to learn the secrets of the Incredibles super powers
- New Castle Show featuring water, sound, light etc
I'm hoping the survey got a negative response, but given you were being asked to choose between 2 different ways of selling the same theme, I reckon they've got it in the bag, and are just testing ways to spin it.
Feeling a bit (actually VERY) disappointed if that's the real plan for 20th Anniversary.
Surely not???
Merged with our existing 20th Anniversary topic. Please keep all general 20th rumours here!
There are however several separate topics for already-known events:
- Castle light and water nighttime show: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
- Princess Pavilion: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9682 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9682%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;) (Although I think that's opening this year, so maybe it's not for the 20th after all?)
oh thats worrying.
the good news, its now almost definite we get a new nighttime show, and a new parade is on the horizon
the bad news, everything else.
would it be so bad to have a plain old, 20th anniversary theme? maybe just some gold ribbons, a new main show, stuff like that.
I dunno why they don't do something like 'old friends new friends' kind of theme. My kids (girls!) still want to see the classic characters as well as the new ones and would be mightily upset if their only chance to see the Princesses was the Auberge, which I cannot afford or the likely queue-for-a -year Princess Pavillion.
I think I may just have to lower my expectations for the Anniversary!
Woah! Wait a minute! ZINDERELLA said this '-A Disney / Pixar focussed Parade'. Anyone? Does that ring a bell? I thought so! If you don't know what I'm talking about... Then you must have joined a couple of weeks ago... Anyway... Oh and peter! That new parade on the horizon is actually... If think.... Is.... The Pixar Parade! 'Cause remember on a past post on DLRP Magic/Today it said it was plausible for the Pixar Parade to join DLRP maybe for the 20th perhaps? I don't know BUT I do know for certain The Pixar Parade Could join maybe WDS to replace Stars 'n' Cars (After all it has been running for a while...) so I think its time to say goodbye to Stars 'n' Cars... But remember I'm not sure its only a rumor so I don't know for certain! Reply beneath!
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
It would make sense if the parade was in the studios. I can't imagine them replacing One Upon a Dream with something like that.
I loved the 15th Anniversary logo, maybe you should base the logo on that one!!
But i do love the 1st one :-)
has anyone mentioned the new projjection equipement installed on the gibson grill yet?
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Well, dejmurph1... no! As a matter of fact I haven't been told! But I tell you what... something BIG is coming! So DLRP keep it coming! Man this is exciting!
:ears: DisneyManic :ears:
I love them all but i prefer the third one as it isn't too busy and got that much detail so it is easier to reconise if Disney decide to put it on any of the merchandise like the pens and the bags. :) Anyway do any of you know when the 20th anniversaire starts
Quote from: "dejmurph1"has anyone mentioned the new projjection equipement installed on the gibson grill yet?
this link from
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I've put something about the projection stuff here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945&start=140 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945&start=140%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
New 20th animated logo by Scroogy75 :
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Official 20th Anniversary Poster! Looking good...:thumbs:
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I love the logo but Mickey looks like he is off for a hard days work at the office.
Mickey's coat and hat look like from Tokyo Disneyland. Logo is very nice!
In my opinion the poster looks cheap. The body of Micky is a cartoon, but his face is taken from the rubberheads. The hat is a graphic again. Is it so hard to use either a whole Mickey Mouse cartoon or a whole Mickey Mouse character from the parks. And the castle was cheaply photoshoped onto the poster. Well done!
Got a little surprise for you all...dont know if its real or not,it looks like a small video of the upcoming 20th anniversary...Retro style from the looks of it...I haven't watched it yet as I just found it now and wanted to post it for you all!
http://dai.ly/vSdryM (http://dai.ly/vSdryM%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Source: video of VDR DisneyGazette
Enjoy guys! ;)
Like usual, DLP is getting better with its ideas but not with its execution.
The colours and idea are great but seriously, the photoshopping is terrible! What happened to the beautiful photoshopping we saw in the Magical Moments catalogue, with those gorgeously coloured spreads?
Woah, that poster is... *cough* a bit odd looking. The concept is awesome, but I don't really like it. I still love the logo.
EDIT: Also WHY are they using an old image of the castle with the horrible gold-gradients. ALSO the "TH" after the 20 stands out too much.
This may be the first time mickey has scared me. I mean, look at him! He is basically saying: "I'm gonna come into your bedroom at night and watch you sleep!" uuh
Quote from: "peter"This may be the first time mickey has scared me. I mean, look at him! He is basically saying: "I'm gonna come into your bedroom at night and watch you sleep!" uuh
Its the way his pupils aren't even focussed on his hand, or at the viewer... they look dead and distant.
Why is he wearing a suit?
I like the second one it's not too less and not too much :D
The more I look at that poster the more I think, or hope, it must be fake. The lack of sharpness on the logo is dreadful and I can't believe they would release it looking like that to celebrate such a huge milestone. The 'TH' and 'Anniversary' don't like right either, in fact you can see bleeding round the ages of all components except Mickey. Look how sharp Mickey's face is compared to the Paris in Disneyland Paris - world's apart.
This makes me think someone has taken the Mickey image and thrown their own bits on to make this poster. If not then the DLP graphics department need a refresher course.
Quote from: "PirateSteve"The more I look at that poster the more I think, or hope, it must be fake. The lack of sharpness on the logo is dreadful and I can't believe they would release it looking like that to celebrate such a huge milestone. The 'TH' and 'Anniversary' don't like right either, in fact you can see bleeding round the ages of all components except Mickey. Look how sharp Mickey's face is compared to the Paris in Disneyland Paris - world's apart.
This makes me think someone has taken the Mickey image and thrown their own bits on to make this poster. If not then the DLP graphics department need a refresher course.
Unfortunately not a fake, it's on the cover of the Leger Holidays Oct 11 to Oct 12 Disneyland Brochure.
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Goodness me. Quality control has taken a dive - good for anyone applying for a designer role as standards are petty low!
Quote from: "MrsPirate"Quote from: "PirateSteve"The more I look at that poster the more I think, or hope, it must be fake. The lack of sharpness on the logo is dreadful and I can't believe they would release it looking like that to celebrate such a huge milestone. The 'TH' and 'Anniversary' don't like right either, in fact you can see bleeding round the ages of all components except Mickey. Look how sharp Mickey's face is compared to the Paris in Disneyland Paris - world's apart.
This makes me think someone has taken the Mickey image and thrown their own bits on to make this poster. If not then the DLP graphics department need a refresher course.
Unfortunately not a fake, it's on the cover of the Leger Holidays Oct 11 to Oct 12 Disneyland Brochure.
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:shock:
It amazes me that the official brochure looks okay and a lot better than in recent years, at least I'm not disappointed, and than Disney surprises us with such a cheap and terrible cover.
Mickey scares me in that suit.
This is the logo inside:-
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I have the official brochure! I got it off a travel agent today, and it looks great; very professional! much better than the photoshopped picture books we've had the last couple of years. The front cover doesn't have the horrifying poster on it. It has a cartoon version of Mickey in the bottom-left corner wearing the same suit. He's smiling up at an amazing array of colours floating in the air behind six of the characters, who are flying around the castle. The branding seems to be a rainbow look with golds and greens.
The first page has a new map of the the resort on a pull-out page. The second page shows the new stuff for the 20th: the Disney Colour, Light and Magic Show, the Disney Magic on Parade (which oddly had a picture of the Soundsational parade in Disneyland California) and Meet Mickey Mouse. There's also "extended hours" and new magic hours.
The next page also mentions a new "Main Street USA Celebrates" thing, but I can't gather what it is from the description, but it seems to have something to do with lights.
Also, the phrase "magic, light and colours" appears a lot. :P
Well thank god that creepy mickey isn't used, his eyes are haunting.
Meph, is there anyway you could post some pics :D ?
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"Meph, is there anyway you could post some pics :D ?
Not at the moment, sorry. However, it's coming out tomorrow, anyway, so there's probably no point. :) There's a photo of the front cover on the brochure thread.
None of the event names are very inventive are they?
Disney Colour, Light and Magic Show? Disney Magic on Parade? Meet Mickey Mouse? All these things could have had fantastic names.
Light and Magic show = Fantillusion maybe?
These are the sort of names you would expect a knock-off Disney Park to "dream up".
That picture the more i look at the more mickey scares me
The "dreams" logo via InsideDLParis:
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looks very "world of color". I don´t know if that´s a good thing cause I wasn´t that impressed by WoC during my october dl visit.
Here's the logo, but a little bigger ;-)
//http://twitpic.com/7cds6f
Is there any mention about what will happen in videopolis ie return of the lion king? thanks
well im so excited after picking up the new brochure for next yr! the new shows sound fantastic!
Quote from: "Princess suzy"Is there any mention about what will happen in videopolis ie return of the lion king? thanks
No mention of anything like that.
I Found a new image and abit of info regarding the new 20th Anniversary show 'Dreams'... :P
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These days, DREAMS, the high point of the festivities of the 20th anniversary was confirmed by Disneyland Paris (annual financial results, travel brochure, intervention of the CEO on BFM). This spectacle of sounds and single light in Europe will use the latest technology to give life dramatically to largest classic Disney on the castle of sleeping beauty, every night of the year!
SOURCE: DCP Facbook Page Wall (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;))
Enjoy! :D
The official DLP 20 logo is at the end of this video... :)
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Here it is:
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Quote from: "Donald-Duck-Malta"I Found a new image and abit of info regarding the new 20th Anniversary show 'Dreams'... :P
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These days, DREAMS, the high point of the festivities of the 20th anniversary was confirmed by Disneyland Paris (annual financial results, travel brochure, intervention of the CEO on BFM). This spectacle of sounds and single light in Europe will use the latest technology to give life dramatically to largest classic Disney on the castle of sleeping beauty, every night of the year!
SOURCE: DCP Facbook Page Wall (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;))
Enjoy! :D
That looks absolutely spectacular, Fantasmic, World of Colour, meet Magic the memories and you :P
Quote from: "Donald-Duck-Malta"I Found a new image and abit of info regarding the new 20th Anniversary show 'Dreams'... :P
(//http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/307131_10150922203295615_278714015614_21435249_794429185_n.jpg)
These days, DREAMS, the high point of the festivities of the 20th anniversary was confirmed by Disneyland Paris (annual financial results, travel brochure, intervention of the CEO on BFM). This spectacle of sounds and single light in Europe will use the latest technology to give life dramatically to largest classic Disney on the castle of sleeping beauty, every night of the year!
SOURCE: DCP Facbook Page Wall (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza (http://www.facebook.com/disneycentralplaza%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;))
Enjoy! :D
I swear that picture IS from World of Color from the Disneyland Cal website. But never the less, I think it's pretty. :thumbs:
Quote from: "Alan"Here it is:
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Oh, my, I just watched that video and I saw the logo at the end and just stared at it and then said 'Ooooo, shiny!' :D
First Official images of Disney Dreams! :thumbs:
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Source: DLRPEXPRESS
Wonderful!
Ok Dr Facilier is in this. I will have one over the moon 6 year old.
Yep. Those are the pics in the brochure. ;) I think a lot of the artworks were used for World of Colour, and the fountains are definitely from the show. Even though they are nothing like the real thing, they still really get me hyped up. XD
Is there any information over the 20th celebration merchaindise?
from the brochure, it sounds like main street celebrates is going to have something to do with new lighting perhaps. maybe could have something to do with the refurbs of practically all the buildings.
Even though there's a total lack of new rides, I'm quite excited about the 20th Anniversary, particularly the Dreams show, looks like it could be quite something! Do we know yet if it will be on daily, or if it will be like the fireworks only during the summer season?
It's on at least April-september
Quote from: "never2old"Even though there's a total lack of new rides, I'm quite excited about the 20th Anniversary, particularly the Dreams show, looks like it could be quite something! Do we know yet if it will be on daily, or if it will be like the fireworks only during the summer season?
It will be on every day throughout the 20th, the longer hours are from April -September.
Having had a look through the new brochure online, I can't find a reference to Princess Pavilion. I would have thought that this would be one of the new features for next year.
Am I missing it somewhere in the brochure?
I don't think it's a big enough addition to be celebrated over 2 years
The longer hours are only from April till September because the new nighttime show needs to be presented after dark. From october it is getting dark pretty early to present the show without the need to make longer opening hours.
The only thing i am thinking about is.- Is there no fireworks show this summer? It doesnt say so in the brochure. Does it mean there will be only the new nighttime show Dreams?
Is fantillusion presented only in the summer or also all year long?
Quote from: "Filip"The longer hours are only from April till September because the new nighttime show needs to be presented after dark. From october it is getting dark pretty early to present the show without the need to make longer opening hours.
The only thing i am thinking about is.- Is there no fireworks show this summer? It doesnt say so in the brochure. Does it mean there will be only the new nighttime show Dreams?
Is fantillusion presented only in the summer or also all year long?
I'm thinking they have decided it is just going to be on during the Summer, probably to keep down electrical costs lol.
hi guy's :)
i do really think it is a shame that there is no new ride going into the disneyland park itself :( as they could do with a new one last ride to go in must have buzz lightyear :P
ohh well what can we do maybe for the 25th of the 30th :)
lets hope for the best .... dont get me wrong i love the way disney is at the moment though :D
Lotso love
Quote from: "Filip"The only thing i am thinking about is.- Is there no fireworks show this summer? It doesnt say so in the brochure. Does it mean there will be only the new nighttime show Dreams?
It looks as though Dreams is sort-of replacing the fireworks. We'll have to see how it goes. Fireworks may be even included in it.
Hello, I'm new to this board.
I am going on a trip to DLP in April 2012 with my college class. Is there anything new happening for the 20th anniversary?
welcome
there's going to be:
the new nighttime show, dreams
main street celebrates, nothing is known about it
and a new parade
also, they might have the new mickey mouse meet n greet, but that might be a later in the season one
Quote from: "peter"welcome
there's going to be:
the new nighttime show, dreams
main street celebrates, nothing is known about it
and a new parade
also, they might have the new mickey mouse meet n greet, but that might be a later in the season one
Thank you:)
Ah right! I've heard rumours that there was gonna be a new parade. Main Street Celebrates? Sounds like they'll decorate Main Street and add more things. A nighttime show, is that like fireworks?
Quote from: "BadKid"A nighttime show, is that like fireworks?
It's like World of Colour, with fountains and projections on the castle.
Quote from: "Meph"It's like World of Colour, with fountains and projections on the castle.
Oh right :)
We are going may 2013, is it likely to all still be on? X
Its hard to say at this point however the 15th anniversary did run for two years ( i went in the second yr) so you may be in luck
Dreams will probably be mostly the same after the 20th, so you may not miss out on much. ;) But I'm not sure about whether that show on Main Street will still be there.
Quote from: "Donald-Duck-Malta"Official 20th Anniversary Poster! Looking good...:thumbs:
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SOURCE: DLRP EXPRESS
That is a very nice poster- but it looks cheaply edited.
I'm going to have to disagree. Do we really need "stalker mickey"?
Now you've got to be joking there, you can't call Mickey a stalker in his magical park. Mickey Mouse and the other Disney characters have played a huge part in the success of the Walt Disney Company. Mickey Mouse is one of Walt Disney's most famous creations. it was all started by a Mouse and the Partners statue in the WDS reminds us of that.
I hadn't realized that before but I see we've come full circle, back to Futura as in 1992 (or at least a lookalike typeface -- the A looks different on first glance). If that was intentional it's a nice touch.
Quote from: "ed-uk"Now you've got to be joking there, you can't call Mickey a stalker in his magical park. Mickey Mouse and the other Disney characters have played a huge part in the success of the Walt Disney Company. Mickey Mouse is one of Walt Disney's most famous creations. it was all started by a Mouse and the Partners statue in the WDS reminds us of that.
He meant how the poster portrays Mickey as... well... scary. :?
Yes I meant scary mickey.
Don't get me wrong, I know how important the mouse is, and I wish he was used more than he currently is, but preferably when he doesn't look you know, stalker ish
I wonder how they will decorate the castle for the 20th Anniversary..
I wonder the same and I hope they won't.
I belive I read somewhere that WDI are now in charge of any decoration of the castle in view of some of the recent excesses shown by DLRP.
Quote from: "pfspock"I wonder the same and I hope they won't.
I imagine they'll have a big sign with the number 20 on it.
Wdi took back control. I don't think entertainment and wdi are exactly "best friends"
Quote from: "peter"Wdi took back control. I don't think entertainment and wdi are exactly "best friends"
What do you mean 'exactly "best friends"' ? And I didn't know WDI was in charge of the decorations.
As far as we're aware, WDI fell out with the park's Entertainments department because they kept adding things to the Castle for 'celebrations', which ultimately ruined the design of it. Apart from the Christmas lighting and anything which has been designed for Dreams, after it's renovation this year, I'd be surprised to see anything added to it in the future.
Plus, aside from the 15th candles (although Tink was horrible after the others came down), the other stuff they've added is tacky and in poor taste..
http://www.youtube.com/embed/MV4LUGuEnvI (http://www.youtube.com/embed/MV4LUGuEnvI%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Bit hashed together... bits of World of Colour... bits of Memories.... lots of nice shots of the park though.
This is only a teaser though. :D
Oh, now that was lovely, really brought back the feelings I have yearned for a long time, thank you!
Ok, I am a sad case, I have watched that 5 times now :thumbs: , and it is really lovely. There is a focus on attractions and shows as well as the characters, love the tink 20 at the end. And am freaked out at the thought that I have now been working for 22 years already (took on my first job 2 years before DLP opened so I could save up to be there).
I really hope the celebrations are as good as this promo real make them look [-o<
Is this an official video?
However it looks great and I got goosebumps because of the music. Very well done.
That's a really good video! But I wonder why they used the WDW castle in some parts of the video... Still, it's a good video!
Because that is where the technology is in use already (just like they showed the World of Color footage at Disney's California Adventure too).
That's lovely. Could maybe use some more adults, but love tue emphasis on attractions
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Because that is where the technology is in use already (just like they showed the World of Color footage at Disney's California Adventure too).
Oh right :)
Just found this, I think it's the brochure for next year.
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Yes, it's been posted before in this thread. :)
By the way, I'm guessing the new projection technology was added because it gives clearer imagery than the current projectors? Or does it capable of more?
Quote from: "Meph"Yes, it's been posted before in this thread. :)
By the way, I'm guessing the new projection technology was added because it gives clearer imagery than the current projectors? Or does it capable of more?
Oh has it? I didn't realise sorry.
Quote from: "Meph"By the way, I'm guessing the new projection technology was added because it gives clearer imagery than the current projectors? Or does it capable of more?
I'm guessing it's to do with both. Currently the projectors sit under the stage, so if you wanted high quality projections like in world of color or Magic, Memories & You, you need better placement & tech
Hi! I'm a big fan of Disneyland Resort Paris and this forum. I'm wrinting from Italy, so i'm sorry for my not-so-good English. Could someone know the exact day of the offical opening od 20th aniverary celebrations? I would like to enjoy it and the official opening of Dreams too! I don't know if they will be around 1st o 12th April ...
Quote from: "Andrea"Hi! I'm a big fan of Disneyland Resort Paris and this forum. I'm wrinting from Italy, so i'm sorry for my not-so-good English. Could someone know the exact day of the offical opening od 20th aniverary celebrations? I would like to enjoy it and the official opening of Dreams too! I don't know if they will be around 1st o 12th April ...
Hello!
And I believe the official opening of the 20th anniversary might be 12th April 2012 :)
The celebrations start on April 1st, though the actual 20th Anniversary is April 12th.
Thank you! The clebration of the 15 years were on 31st march (i hope to remember the right date). I really hope to be able to enjoy the 20th's celebration!!!!
Not sure if anyone has posted this image yet?
http://www.thebritishfrog.com/forum/topic/62 (http://www.thebritishfrog.com/forum/topic/62%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Quote from: "thebritishfrog.com"Not sure if anyone has posted this image yet?
http://www.thebritishfrog.com/forum/topic/62 (http://www.thebritishfrog.com/forum/topic/62%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
That was a pretty shameless attempt to get people to your website ;)
The image in question started doing the rounds on November 14th when it was posted on Twitter by @InsideDLParis (and was posted in the Parade thread here (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=575&start=980#p203952) on the same day) and here is said image - after all, it's easier for discussion if we keep everything in this thread:
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It was worth a shot! ;-)
Although I really hadn't seen it before. Someone just sent me it in an email!
Just to note I've updated the first page with links to our topics for specific elements of the 20th Anniversary:
- Dreams - A Magical, Immersive Nighttime Spectacular (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945)
The brand new, must-see event to end every day at Disneyland Park!
- Disney Magic on Parade! (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12499)
A refreshed and reworked retelling of Disney's Once Upon a Dream Parade.
- Meet Mickey Mouse at Fantasy Festival Stage (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11549)
An all-new, permanent, "backstage" place to encounter Mickey Mouse himself!
Please use this topic for all general 20th Anniversary news and discussion, from branding to brochures, decorations to promotions, and everything in between!
105 Days to go!
Happy New Year magicforum! Its time to get ready for the 20th Anniversary! This is when rumours get to their peak! So get ready! The countdown has begun!
90 Days to go!
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
Rumours? You know, it sounds like not a lot is going to happen for the 20th Anniversary. The only thing that's particularly exciting is Dreams, and how many rumours can you have about a fountain show?
Hopefully Ratatouille will get approved in 2012, so that we can follow the construction of that project.
Well, we still need to work out what "Main Street celebrates" is.
Hi everyone, I'm going from the 1st to the 4th of April, and I'm wondering if any of the parades, merchandise, nighttime fireworks, etc etc. Will it all be there when I go? Sorry if someone has asked this question :s
Quote from: "peter"Well, we still need to work out what "Main Street celebrates" is.
What if it involves that train that keeps getting recycled? I'm starting to think it does, now. :|
I'm excited for the parade.
But I'm more looking forward to the castle decorations.
Quote from: "madondisney"Hi everyone, I'm going from the 1st to the 4th of April, and I'm wondering if any of the parades, merchandise, nighttime fireworks, etc etc. Will it all be there when I go? Sorry if someone has asked this question :s
All the events for the 20th start on 1st April so you wii be fine for everything! (They will probably have soft openings from mid march for those going then
^ Ahhh, thankyou so much.
How long are we expecting the Celebrations to go on?
I'm trying to convince my sister to join us on our trip in May, but she thinks that next year will be fine too.
And I just know she'll be really upset if she ends up missing anything!
If the 15th Anniversary celebrations are anything to go by it could be for 2 years, but I'd expect 12 months at the absolute least.
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Love the new video and great to see some new concept art and models, along with interviews with people involved. That's a video to get everyone excited about the 20th Anniversary.
@InsideDlParis have reported the stage has now gone. Below is a Tweet from them.
InsideDLParis: Central Plaza Stage... is gone!
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Quote from: "PirateSteve"[youtube:1559xy36]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_1-p9N5C9c&hd=1[/youtube:1559xy36]
Love the new video and great to see some new concept art and models, along with interviews with people involved. That's a video to get everyone excited about the 20th Anniversary.
I agree! It's already got me excited!
The castle show is gonna be amazing!
I just watched that video with tears in my eyes. I am sooo excited, its going to be AMAZING! :D :D
This video is good. Very good! In so many ways...
1. They are actually letting us go behind the scenes and tell us about some of the thoughts that has gone into the shows (mainly Dreams). If it wasn't because of the presence of our beautiful Chateau you would think this was in the american parks as DLP very rarely release videos like this. Brilliant!
2. The previews themselves.
The Meet Mickey looks great - I like how they try and make the character encounters into actual attractions; Making it just as much about the general experience than just meeting a Disney character. This has a story!
The parade looks good, although it of course isn't a brand new parade as they like to call it. Still DOUADP was a quite good parade and the additions look like they will add just a bit more - I especially like the presence of Merlin!!
Dreams looks great and from this waaay better and bigger than I had dared to expect! Of course it is no WOC, but it looks like it will be a great diverse show with various DLP-first effects and I'm really excited about the fountains (they look tall!) and perhaps most of all the pyros. I will be looking for each little bit of news about this from now until the premiere =]
3. A video like this must get so much more attention than just a reused WOC video. An attention that surely will be passed on to the resort!
All in all some very good news in the last couple of days... Could it just be August already??
Wow I'm so excited about the 20th now and its lovely to see a video like that I haven't seen a video like that for Disney Paris before
Hi!I can't wait to visit Disneyland Paris on April 10 and I would like to know something about the tickets, like prices,special offers and things like that( without hotels) After 10 years of waiting I finally planned a trip to see Mickey Mouse,my favourite character.:X
You can find most deals here: :)
http://www.dlrpmagic.com/planning/booking/park-tickets/ (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/planning/booking/park-tickets/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Look for info on the Magic Tickets.
OMG! wow that video did bring a tear to my eye.........wasn't really going to go this year but after seeing that....wow!
Amazing, the 20th is going to be something really special, don't think I can wait until November.
Quote from: "alternativerock123"I just watched that video with tears in my eyes. I am sooo excited, its going to be AMAZING! :D :D
I have been away from "the magic" a while, especially DLRP, but wow this video looks stunning!!! :thumbs:
Speaking of fountains another park will bet getting fountains this year and thats Universal Studios Florida sometime in spring.
More information can be found here
http://www.themeparktourist.com/news/20 ... pring-2012 (http://www.themeparktourist.com/news/20120126/5861/universals-cinematic-spectacular-coming-universal-studios-florida-spring-2012%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Some new visuals released by Disney, found on DLP Express. The first gives a wee clue about the "second star to the left".
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No artwork on the fountain show, guess they are keeping it more of a secret.
Quote from: "Columbiad"Some new visuals released by Disney, found on DLP Express. The first gives a wee clue about the "second star to the left".
Oh god I can't take any more I want to go now!!!! I love how colourful it is and so fresh and crisp I love the theming I know other people don't but I do I'm all about the colours lol I think that is what Disney is all about!!!! There is so much speculation it is funny looking at it all it will be so interesting to see who's right.
Got this email today concerning a 40% offer, take a look behind Lightning McQueen, the space were the stage was located as it now looks to be replaced with a water feature. Pond or fountans etc, cut and paste this link into your address bar ( for some reason I am unable to attach pic etc to my posts........)
http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c ... c40e6aba8c (http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=175c539fc40e6aba8c%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
dejmurph1 - ah ha, very interesting!! then again it does imply from the rest of the picture that main street usa and the hub is tarmac-ed over for mcqueen.
Quote from: "dejmurph1"Got this email today concerning a 40% offer, take a look behind Lightning McQueen, the space were the stage was located as it now looks to be replaced with a water feature. Pond or fountans etc, cut and paste this link into your address bar ( for some reason I am unable to attach pic etc to my posts........)
http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c ... c40e6aba8c (http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=175c539fc40e6aba8c%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Well spotted, dejmurph, but I think what we're looking at here is a photoshop composition of Central Plaza and part of Fantasyland - the sea monster topiary is visible at the back there.
However, in other news, DLRPExpress today tweeted part of a leaked advert for the 20th Anniversary, and my does it look flashy. The only downside however - this leaked version is in Spanish!
[youtube:3437oonr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvloaRb30T0[/youtube:3437oonr]
Did anyone notice that this isn't DLP's Main Street USA. It's the one from Anaheim and Hong Kong.
Quote from: "dagobert"Did anyone notice that this isn't DLP's Main Street USA. It's the one from Anaheim and Hong Kong.
Oh yeah!
Some very exciting news posted on Twitter by a current cast member about what is to come.
QuoteSurprise!As part of the 20th anniversary,some new merchandise'll be sold. Keywords? Retro-Vintage, celebration & Signature! It looks great!
QuoteApart from these 3 new lines of merchandise, we'll get a new 20th anniversary wine, by Domaine Bertrand. Available: red, white or rose!
QuoteNew 20th anniversary menu soon in restaurants as Walt's, Founders club + a new dining plan; privileged 'Dreams' seats to watch the show.
It seems like DLP have been listening to the requests of more new merchandise. The privilege "Dreams" seats sound interesting too. It seems to follow what Disneyland do for World of Colour. Also in relation to Main Street decorations for the 20th, the cast member has posted this:
QuoteMain Street U.S.A. will be dressed in lights and colours as part of its extravagant decorations for the 20th anniversary
Of course I am only going by a current cast member's tweets and as we know things can change all the time.
Thanks for posting that. :)
It's nice to know the "light and colour" thing is still going on. I don't think anyone at DLP's mentioned it since it was announced in the brochure.
We all know how DLP like to keep everything so quiet but at the moment they are leaking quite a lot over on Twitter.
An update on the merchandise that is coming the same castmember (I would put her name but I don't want to get them into trouble and risk losing their job) updates informing us
QuoteI can tell you there'll be a new collection of Cars themed clothing and the wine'll also be sold in a set of 3 in a gift box
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Also, there is to be new food packaging.
QuoteFor the 20th anniversary season we'll get new (fast)food wrapping. Boxes and bags for hotdogs, burgers etc. featuring the Disney Characters!
Plus confirmation that the new Mickey Mouse meet and greet will not be finished on time for the start of the celebrations. An unconfirmed opening date of the 17th may has been mentioned by InsideDLParis on Twitter. Disney Central Plaza reports a "provisional" version of the meet and greet could take place at Woody's Roundup Village.
Thanks for the infos. I'm excited about the wine, because the one sold for the 15th birthday was quite good.
Disney should put more effort in improving the food that's inside the new fast food boxes. The fast food can be terrible at DLRP.
I'm not interested in the Cars merchandise, I would like to see some quality merchandise about the resort, the 20th birthday and about the attractions. If you are not under 10 years, it's hard to find something that's worth the money.
"Meet Mickey Mouse" in 17th May 2012 ?? :( What another will be delayed now? //http://www.dlrptoday.com/2012/02/09/meet-mickey-mouse-unveils-new-colours-but-wont-meet-20th-anniversary-launch-date/
all these tweets sound amazing, especially the Walts dreams experience im really curious to see that, and everything as well come to think of it. I do hope the tweets come true.
Its sad to see Meet Mickey mouse is not opening for the the beginning of the twentieth but they have had a lot of bad weather to contend with and still have but id rather it be open when its ready and not a half jobby!
MissDisneyisMagical, those tweets come from very reliable sources. InsideDLParis is usually 95% accurate and if it does change he usually says. A cast member who is working for the mouse is a pretty good source. With only a matter of weeks to go I would have thought personally everything for the 20th would all be finalised and ready to go at this late stage but that is only my opinion.
What does 'privileged seats' mean - any ideas?
I need to book my trip then asap!
So these seats, I wonder how much a meal is going to cost just to get a decent view of Dreams. Personally sticking a bunch of seats in Central Plaza does not fill me with joy.
Note you can discuss Disney Dreams specifically in the dedicated topic (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10945)!
"Privileged seats" would suggest that these seats are better than other seats. Since there are no seats, I'm guessing more a reserved viewing area accessible via a ticket given to you during your meal, like I think they have for World of Color.
Sorry Anthony, That is my fault. I do apologise. If you wish, you may move the discussion about the seating to the Disney Dreams topic.
I wonder if this privileged seating will involve Plaza Gardens with outside seating, you have your meal and then sit and watch Dreams. They will have a good spot from there to see Dreams. This is what they do for World of Colour.
The 20th Anniversary decorations now going up have been given their own topic. You can find it here:
- Main Street, U.S.A. Celebrates! (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12838)
Main Street, U.S.A. decorated for the 20th Anniversary with a festival of shimmering lights and colour!
You can find a full list of the other 20th Anniversary topics on the first page of this thread (//http://www.magicforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11081).
Keep posting general 20th news and discussion here! :)
Looks like a good Anniversary offer just gone up: book before end April, for dates until September and get 40% off NPB and above and 25% for SL and below. Almost getting to the point when I may book! But perhaps I may hold on for a 50%: almost definitely will be one!
Actually I got 40% off on the Cheyenne so it really depends on when you want to go.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Actually I got 40% off on the Cheyenne so it really depends on when you want to go.
The new offer is for May onwards: therefore covering the high season. I'm looking at the very first week of July, but would like to see a pricing of 800-ish euros for 3 nights in the SL or NBC. Very nearly there with 40% for NBC, but I think I'll continue to play chicken just a bit longer to see if that 50% makes an appearance!
And having looked a bit more closely at the terms, it seems that if you go for 4 nights or more, the 40% applies to all hotels. And you get a free fastpass, apparently. So not bad!
Surprised no-one else has picked up on this, but here is the full, English 20th Anniversary TV Spot, obviously again produced by Disney in Anaheim, like the New Generation adverts, with new animation.
[youtube:1zfduetp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdHXDVWV4Y&feature=plcp&context=C3005942UDOEgsToPDskJYeGqheRUDQQxBdysR6IEl[/youtube:1zfduetp]
I like but once again it showcases no attractions and not at all explicit about dreams. Good mention of the parade though.
Also the tents on central plaza are almost all gone. One left earlier today.
The administrator, Mouetto, over at DisneyCentralPlaza was lucky enough to interview Marianne Sharpe, the merchandisng director for the 20th anniversary. You can read the detailed interview here : http://www.disneycentralplaza.com/t2714 ... nne-sharpe (http://www.disneycentralplaza.com/t27146-presentation-des-produits-du-20eme-anniversaire-entretien-avec-marianne-sharpe%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
It also came with some photos of what to expect, and I must say - I'm loving the look of the retro & signature range! In the interview Marianne said that there is around 250 new items for the 20th Anniversary!
Celebration Range:
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Retro Range:
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Signature Range:
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It really looks as if DLP have taken on board what fans said about broadening their merchandise options.
Wow! The Retro stuff is exactly what I hoped they'd go for!
I'm loving the Retro look of the some of the merchandise, it all seems very promising and I'll be keeping a look out for the book.
Wow they all look awesome! :-)
Do you have any clue on prices?
Thank you for the preview I have a feeling we'll be bringing a lot of it home! :-D
Thanks for posting it. :) So that's what the retro-range is like? I guess it's not the EuroDisney 1992 branding that I was expecting. XD
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While the shape of the castle on the Retro-range merchandise is clearly taken from that image of the castle, I'm glad they borrowed the retro look of the Disneyland Anaheim and didn't go for the '90s EuroDisney look, which I think looks quite garish nowadays.
Ahaa so we finally have a name for that garish blue tat they've been churning out for the past five years: "Celebration"! Almost identical and just as unappealing as the 15th Anniversary stuff.
The "Retro" merchandise (especially the mugs) is absolutely gorgeous for DLP, but also pretty confusing. Why have they made a (very faintly) 1950s/60s design for a park built in the 1990s? It has absolutely no connection to the history of Disneyland Paris at all. And in fact, it actually looks incredibly modern to me. The freshest-looking merchandise for years. They should have ironically called the shiny blue "Celebration" tack the "retro" range instead...
Gonna have to disagree with everyone I'm afraid. I don't see the appeal of the retro stuff. Yeah it's quaint and the nostalgia of revamping designs of old has it's charm, but the design is very - for want of a better word - bland. I had to look at the cups and the tray a couple of times just to figure out what it was all about. Now I'm no expert, but surely merchandise need to be eye-catching.
Now as for the T-shirt and the garish blue 20th anniversary photo album ....... why is there no drooling emoticon??
found one (//http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/d/drooling-emoticon.gif)
I'll probably buy the garish, blue 20th anniversary photo album to go with my other DLP albums. I like it.
Quote from: "Columbiad"Surprised no-one else has picked up on this, but here is the full, English 20th Anniversary TV Spot, obviously again produced by Disney in Anaheim, like the New Generation adverts, with new animation.
[youtube:1yizyyl1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdHXDVWV4Y&feature=plcp&context=C3005942UDOEgsToPDskJYeGqheRUDQQxBdysR6IEl[/youtube:1yizyyl1]
Is the music playing in the background going to be used for Dreams ?
Quote from: "Robert97"Is the music playing in the background going to be used for Dreams ?
I hope so, because it's a lovely piece, but none of it seems to feature any tunes from any of the Disney films slated to be featured in the show, let alone the "We Can Fly" melody that seems to be the over-arching musical theme for the soundtrack, so I'm doubtful.
Well I'm looking forward to seeing the merchandise in person and I'll definitely be getting the pin and probably the photo album not too sure about anything else though until I see it in person and can't resist temptation!
Love the TShirt and think it will appeal to all ages ...
Must say that i also like Minnies hat :D
I just want to comment on the new "Disneyland Paris 20th Anniversary TV Spot (French)" video...
While it's gorgeous to look at, and technically very nicely done, it's absolute nonsense. Visually there's no useful information in it. It's just a ton of fluff that doesn't represent the actual product. I mean, no matter how amazing the Dreams show really is:
• Captain Hook and Peter Pan will not fight in mid-air above the castle
• Crush and his turtle buddies will not fly over Main Street
• Lightning McQueen will not drive down Main Street
• Guests will not be able to stroll down Main Street next to a walking Simba
• And since when was there a Crystal Arcade on Main Street in France? It's not like Main Street actually exists as a physical set that you can take a film crew to and shoot, is it?
I really detest these kinds of adverts. They don't inspire you to visit, because they don't show you anything that's real. It's like Disney have no confidence in the reality of their parks.
I mean, imagine two "average" people seeing this advert and discussing it:
- Did you see that new advert for Disneyland Paris on TV last night?
- Yeah, all the stuff they're doing this year looks unbelievable.
- I know. Did you see that they're actually going to have Crush flying over your head on Main Street?
- Yeah, it's amazing what they can do with holograms these days.
- Yeah. I can't wait to see it in person. I'm going to book.
Quote from: "Alan"I just want to comment on the new "Disneyland Paris 20th Anniversary TV Spot (French)" video...
While it's gorgeous to look at, and technically very nicely done, it's absolute nonsense. Visually there's no useful information in it. It's just a ton of fluff that doesn't represent the actual product. I mean, no matter how amazing the Dreams show really is:
• Captain Hook and Peter Pan will not fight in mid-air above the castle
• Crush and his turtle buddies will not fly over Main Street
• Lightning McQueen will not drive down Main Street
• Guests will not be able to stroll down Main Street next to a walking Simba
• And since when was there a Crystal Arcade on Main Street in France? It's not like Main Street actually exists as a physical set that you can take a film crew to and shoot, is it?
I really detest these kinds of adverts. They don't inspire you to visit, because they don't show you anything that's real. It's like Disney have no confidence in the reality of their parks.
I mean, imagine two "average" people seeing this advert and discussing it:
- Did you see that new advert for Disneyland Paris on TV last night?
- Yeah, all the stuff they're doing this year looks unbelievable.
- I know. Did you see that they're actually going to have Crush flying over your head on Main Street?
- Yeah, it's amazing what they can do with holograms these days.
- Yeah. I can't wait to see it in person. I'm going to book.
I can't stop laughing! Superb! Great post! I agree on everything.
Very well written, Alan. I totally agree with you. It's another cheap spot, but at least it's an improvement to recent years.
No, and for anybody heading to Paris, don't be surprised if you don't see a giant Mickey Mouse and Buzz lightyear walking the Streets, because Paris isn't really like that. It might be hard for two average people to figure it out?
What I meant was, the average/positive person could see that advert and assume that it's all real. So if they book a holiday based on that advert, when they show up in person they're going to be dissapointed.
And a cynical person could see that advert and automatically dismiss it as fake and misleading, which it is. They realise that it's just another marketing trick and decide that there's no way they're booking a holiday.
As you can probably tell, I like adverts that are honest and show the product for what it is. I don't like adverts that try to trick you and fool you into buying something that doesn't exist. I mean, if the product is genuinely excellent and amazing, all you need to do to sell it is show it. So to get the public excited about Dreams, all Disney need to do is show 40 seconds of Dreams.
They've not filmed Dreams and used it in an advert, which I assume you think they should of. But since the shows not finished and the adverts are probably planned months in advance, maybe that wouldn't have been possible. Nobody will think that they will be walking down Main Street with a group of hand drawn Disney cartoon characters, will they?
Quote from: "Alan"What I meant was, the average/positive person could see that advert and assume that it's all real
Umm, sorry, I don't think an 'average' person would think that advert was real! It's a cartoon, you know, like Disney make. Bright, colourful
fantasy. The last Christmas one had the castle flying through the sky. I don't think many people
actually thought the castle would fly to your personal window and transport you to Paris!
Perhaps once Dreams is showing, that might be part of further advertising.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"Quote from: "Alan"What I meant was, the average/positive person could see that advert and assume that it's all real
Umm, sorry, I don't think an 'average' person would think that advert was real! It's a cartoon, you know, like Disney make. Bright, colourful fantasy. The last Christmas one had the castle flying through the sky. I don't think many people actually thought the castle would fly to your personal window and transport you to Paris!
Perhaps once Dreams is showing, that might be part of further advertising.
Of course the average person will know that the advert is not real. Maybe I'm seeing it from a different point of view, because you are from the Netherlands while Ed and Alan are from the UK. Disneyland is very well known in these countries and so there is no need to show more of the parks so that people know what to expect.
Here in Austria, or even in Germany, it's totally different. There is no advertising about DLRP at all and there are still people who think "Euro Disney" closed. Of course the number is decreasing, but I'm not sure if such a spot would attract people to Disneyland when they don't know a lot about that place. I know times have changed and people can get more informations on the internet or at travel agencies after they have seen the spot.
However, would you book a trip based on just that commercial when you don't know a lot about Disneyland. Since Disneyland Paris has its key markets, I gues there is no need for other spots or to expand the advertising to other countries.
I'm not saying that an average person would think the advert was real. But, they could think the advert was real.
Sure, Dreams isn't finished yet, so they can't shoot the full show. However, as we've seen in this Steve Davison video, enough of it is complete to make an advert out of.
[youtube:1zyrf8fr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8_8l-j62Yg[/youtube:1zyrf8fr]
Quote from: "dagobert"Of course the average person will know that the advert is not real. Maybe I'm seeing it from a different point of view, because you are from the Netherlands while Ed and Alan are from the UK. Disneyland is very well known in these countries and so there is no need to show more of the parks so that people know what to expect. .
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Quote from: "dagobert"However, would you book a trip based on just that commercial when you don't know a lot about Disneyland. Since Disneyland Paris has its key markets, I gues there is no need for other spots or to expand the advertising to other countries.
Does anyone really not know what to expect of Disneyland? Really? I'm pretty sure that most people in the entire world know that "Disneyland" is a theme park with Disney characters and that there are several of them. If you are interested in Disney, then you are probably going to consider going to one of the parks at some point, and if you see an advert with Disney characters saying there is some sort of special event in the European park, then you may decide that this is the time to go. And so the advert's work here is done.
Quote from: "Alan"I'm not saying that an average person would think the advert was real. But, they could think the advert was real.
Anyone who expects the advert to be real would be no use to Disney. They'd probably be in some sort of institution and have no access to money. Disney needs people who understand the difference between cartoons and reality, with jobs and disposable incomes.
Sorry for butting in as I have nothing constructive to add - but hahahahahhah, no other thread has made me laugh so much :D !
I think you're not understanding what Alan says.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"I live in the Netherlands. But I'm from the UK.
I'm sorry, judging from your board name, I assumed that you are from the Netherlands.
QuoteDoes anyone really not know what to expect of Disneyland? Really? I'm pretty sure that most people in the entire world know that "Disneyland" is a theme park with Disney characters and that there are several of them. If you are interested in Disney, then you are probably going to consider going to one of the parks at some point, and if you see an advert with Disney characters saying there is some sort of special event in the European park, then you may decide that this is the time to go. And so the advert's work here is done.
Then you should come here or take a look on German boards. You will be surprised. Even other German members here pointed that out several times. Dsneyland is a family park, but so many think it's just a fairground for kids. I have to admit that the tourism here is different. More people tend to go on beach holidays or city trips than to themeparks.
You have said it in your post: When you are interested in Disney then you will probably visit one of the Disney parks. But there are people who are not interested in Disney at all, like many friends of ours. I'm not sure if they would be attracted by that advert. Since the spot will not be shown here, they will definitely not be attracted. However after we showed them what the park offers, they booked a trip.
All I want to say is that I'm not sure if a single spot is going to work for whole Europe. Other companies launch different adverts for the same product in different countries. Maybe because of cultural differencies.
I do understand that it is necessary to promote new things, the new spot is doing that, but why not have another spot that shows the resort in general, especially in countries where people don't know a lot about Disney. I'm thinking of the new European Union countries. One day Disney needs them to increase attendance.
Disney relies on costumers like every other company, even on costumers who are not interested in Disney in the first place. A trip to Disneyland could change that and so TWDC should also have an interest in ED SCA advertising the resort to other people as well.
I'm not really understaning what Alan is saying, except he thinks Disney should have made a different advert with real footage from Dreams, and not use some cartoon characters. If people don't know much about Disney and haven't got a clue about the parks, as in Germany then maybe Disney would have to come up with a different advert? But for the English market I think people will get it.
@Dagobert:
I'm from Germany and you are right with what you are saying. Her in Germany there are no commercials about Disneyland Paris and many people do really think that Disneyland closed in the 90s. Germans know Disney World and that's it. Disneyland and Disney World is the same for many.
I like the new spot, but if it would bring more people to the resort, I don't know. Disney fans for sure, but the average German, I'm not sure. I showed the clip to my children and they were not impressed, but they already knew that we are returning in summer.
Another problem is the price. It's too expensive for many Germans compared to a beach trip. There are hardly any offers, too, but we usually book via the websites in other countries or stay in third party hotels. I'm looking forward to the renovated rooms, because the quality was very low last year.
Quote from: "dagobert"I'm sorry, judging from your board name, I assumed that you are from the Netherlands.
No problem. Although the "Brit" part might of given it away a bit.
QuoteThen you should come here or take a look on German boards. You will be surprised. Even other German members here pointed that out several times. Dsneyland is a family park, but so many think it's just a fairground for kids. I have to admit that the tourism here is different. More people tend to go on beach holidays or city trips than to themeparks.
So the German market is a) not interested enough in Disney related stuff to know that there are theme parks based on it and b) not really into theme parks. Hmmmm. The words "waste of marketing budget" are kind of springing to mind....
QuoteBut there are people who are not interested in Disney at all, like many friends of ours. I'm not sure if they would be attracted by that advert. Since the spot will not be shown here, they will definitely not be attracted. However after we showed them what the park offers, they booked a trip.
Aaaand we're back! I'm sorry, but I still think that if people aren't into Disney in any way, then it is pretty pointless trying to get them to Disneyland. It might work with word-of-mouth recommendations, and some of them may indeed enjoy themselves once they are there, but directing advertising at them is just throwing money away. You'll never get a good enough return.
I don't know what it is about DLP and the Germans? They know about WDW and Disneyland, but they think Disneyland Paris is closed apparently. Does WDW have commercials in Germany?
Quote from: "DutchBrit"No problem. Although the "Brit" part might of given it away a bit.
Yeah, that makes sense, but I thought Brit is short for Brittany or something like that :) .
QuoteSo the German market is a) not interested enough in Disney related stuff to know that there are theme parks based on it and b) not really into theme parks. Hmmmm. The words "waste of marketing budget" are kind of springing to mind....
Aaaand we're back! I'm sorry, but I still think that if people aren't into Disney in any way, then it is pretty pointless trying to get them to Disneyland. It might work with word-of-mouth recommendations, and some of them may indeed enjoy themselves once they are there, but directing advertising at them is just throwing money away. You'll never get a good enough return.
I don't know anything about how to advertise a product. I just thought more advertising would generate more interest and so more visitors. Of course you can see it the other way round. Low attendance means low interest which doesn't justify more money for advertising.
That's a very interesting topic and it seems you know a lot about such things. Are you working in that field? For me it's interesting that Disney isn't showing any adverts here. I mean Disney movies are always doing very well and the Disney comics are still very popular in the German speaking market. So I guess there is interest in Disney. Germans are also interested in themeparks, at least judging from all the parks they have. Otherwise Europa Park wouldn't be the second most popular park in Europe. Maybe the competition with the German parks is too strong.
As I said I don't know how to advertise, I just see the economic power the Germans have and since they like to travel a lot and spend a lot of many when on vacation, I assumed they would be a target for Disney. As far as I know TWDC Germany is responsible for advertising the Disney parks in the DACH (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) market and not ED SCA. Maybe that's why DLP is hardly advertised here. You get more infos about WDW and DCL than about DLRP.
Disneyland Paris is Europes most popular tourist attraction, and somehow that news hasn't reached Germany.
Quote from: "Alan"- Did you see that new advert for Disneyland Paris on TV last night?
- Yeah, all the stuff they're doing this year looks unbelievable.
- I know. Did you see that they're actually going to have Crush flying over your head on Main Street?
- Yeah, it's amazing what they can do with holograms these days.
- Yeah. I can't wait to see it in person. I'm going to book.
I doubt they'll think that. :) They won't think it has anything to do with a show involving fountains and projections. They'll just think it's general scenes where characters are calling people to the park. The problem is that it's not obvious that the show refers to Dreams unless you know about it beforehand.
Quote from: "amanda08"Sorry for butting in as I have nothing constructive to add - but hahahahahhah, no other thread has made me laugh so much :D !
:D
sorry, got to laugh too
there's 3 or 4 perennial debates going on here, and where's Alan got to after causing such a stir? :-"
In Czech Republic (heart of Europe) is absolutly NOTHING about Disneyland Paris. No good offers on official website, no commercial in TV, newspaper or radio - NOTHING! When you talk with people - he says - "Ha, ha, ha - only for child, stupid cartoon park. Not for all my money!"
And when i showed this commercial, he says : "this thing will be flying over us?"... :/
I'm still here. I didn't mean to spark such a heated debate. I was basically just having a rant about Disney's advertising, which I think sucks.
My point is, if they've spent €50, €100, €150 million building something, then surely the end product is great enough that, in order to sell it, all they need to do is show it.
Have you seen that short film by Drea Cooper called The Imagineer? It proves that you need to add any additional special effects or animation to make Disneyland seem attractive. Disneyland already has all the magic you could ever need built into it. All you need to do is show it, exactly the way it really is:
http://vimeo.com/24368336 (http://vimeo.com/24368336%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
There's nothing wrong with a heated debate, it keeps the forum ticking over. What you want is footage to advertise the park as it is, but the point of 20th commercial is to advertise a special event rather than land or ride.
Isn't Dreams a special event? I mean, I know it's a show, but it's definitely something special to celebrate the 20th.
Yes, Dreams is a show, but the thrust of the advert is about going to DLP and celebrating their 20th birthday, with a new parade and new show. The advert doesn't focus on Dreams, although you may think it should.
oh, don't get me wrong, no one loves a good debate (heated or otherwise) than me, part of being a psychy nurse is you're never afraid to hear what someone might say. To comment about the adverts, I assumed you were being a little tinkerish to suggest people might take it literally and I agree with your general point about DLP advertising. It always seems odd to anyone who knows the park and loves it for it's sense of place that adverts never seem to try to capture that. Generic swirls of happy faces and colour and a few buzz words (pun intended).
What if instead they used some real footage showing how lovely our castle is, or some of the 'tilt-shift video they've shot to give a sense of the parks scale, or even on-board footage from BTM or ToT.
I'd love to hear an advertising exec types view personally, I assume there's some kind of logic somewhere :^o
Quote from: "dagobert"That's a very interesting topic and it seems you know a lot about such things. Are you working in that field?
Not really: I'm in Communications rather than Marketing, but there are links. You have your target and you direct to the target in the way you have reason to believe will work best. You don't waste time (which equals money) on non-targets.
QuoteFor me it's interesting that Disney isn't showing any adverts here. I mean Disney movies are always doing very well and the Disney comics are still very popular in the German speaking market. So I guess there is interest in Disney. Germans are also interested in themeparks, at least judging from all the parks they have. Otherwise Europa Park wouldn't be the second most popular park in Europe. Maybe the competition with the German parks is too strong.
But as you said earlier than most Germans think Disneyland Paris no longer exists and they are more inclined to beach holidays. So they might like theme parks, but one can be forgiven for thinking that they are not willing to go to Paris to go to another one. Or perhaps the Germans don't really like going to France full stop? Or perhaps it's the French who are not all that keen on having them come...?
QuoteAs far as I know TWDC Germany is responsible for advertising the Disney parks in the DACH (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) market and not ED SCA. Maybe that's why DLP is hardly advertised here. You get more infos about WDW and DCL than about DLRP.
Well then, there you have it. European advertising isn't directed at Germany because Germany isn't in their patch. There will be a reason for it somewhere.
Yes, I think the advert should focus on Dreams. I mean, it seems like every year Disneyland Paris has a new parade and a new celebration. That's business as usual. But how often does the park get a new fountain show? Never. So they should really focus on Dreams because, in my opinion, that's the truly unique thing that's opening/starting this year.
Hopefully, once testing starts with all the elements in place, they'll have some video to use in further advertising.
Actually that reminds me, I at least prefer this type of ad to using shots of WoC, which really is misleading as it's video footage, but of a whole other park and show!
Quote from: "Alan"Yes, I think the advert should focus on Dreams. I mean, it seems like every year Disneyland Paris has a new parade and a new celebration. That's business as usual. But how often does the park get a new fountain show? Never. So they should really focus on Dreams because, in my opinion, that's the truly unique thing that's opening/starting this year.
Couldn't agree with you more! :thumbs:
Gemany was the third in the priorities' list of DLP until 2007. Now, it's Spain.
You just have to listen parade announcements. Disney's Once Upon A Dream opening spiel was recorded in French, English and German. So if germans has forgotten Disneyland Paris, that would be from 2007 on. The latest announcements recordings are in bad Spanish as the third language.
We don't say "Ladies and gentlemen, and you the children" ("Señoras y señores, y vosotros los niños"), we say "Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls" ("Señoras y señores, niños y niñas").
YouTube now has an advert displaying the Disney 20th Anniversary.
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That's just a general advert for the internet :) Google gathered the information that you like Disneyland, so shows you the ad. Nevertheless, it's pretty eye catching and nice and simple. :D
Quote from: "Lorum"Gemany was the third in the priorities' list of DLP until 2007. Now, it's Spain.
You just have to listen parade announcements. Disney's Once Upon A Dream opening spiel was recorded in French, English and German. So if germans has forgotten Disneyland Paris, that would be from 2007 on. The latest announcements recordings are in bad Spanish as the third language.
We don't say "Ladies and gentlemen, and you the children" ("Señoras y señores, y vosotros los niños"), we say "Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls" ("Señoras y señores, niños y niñas").
In the same way that we don't say "and you the children" in english either, I think it's an attempt to: 1. use the french expression (et vous les enfants) and 2. emphasising that the kids are not just there with their parents but are in fact separate and the show is for them.
Yes, but you have a good announcement, written correctly.
Quote from: "gldc"In the same way that we don't say "and you the children" in english either, I think it's an attempt to: 1. use the french expression (et vous les enfants) and 2. emphasising that the kids are not just there with their parents but are in fact separate and the show is for them.
This is a French idiosyncrasy. In spite of having a 20 years old Disney park, their thoughts have not evolved in the last years. They think a Disney park is just for children, and it isn't. They think the shows are for children and they aren't. This is why the DLP stage shows are so bored. The characters making stupid things and movements.
Quote from: "Lorum"This is a French idiosyncrasy. In spite of having a 20 years old Disney park, their thoughts have not evolved in the last years. They think a Disney park is just for children, and it isn't. They think the shows are for children and they aren't. This is why the DLP stage shows are so bored. The characters making stupid things and movements.
So true! The shows at DLRP are so boring and I'm so glad that the ugly Central Plaza Stage was removed, So no stupid shows there anymore. However the shows in front of the castle at WDW were also boring, but the big stage shows at WDW are really good. I would even say that Finding Nemo is nearly a Broadway Show. Tarzan at DLRP isn't bad either, but DLP needs another good stage show.
Quote from: "Lorum"They think a Disney park is just for children, and it isn't. They think the shows are for children and they aren't.
Or perhaps they are, and it's you that has it wrong...
Disney might not be "just" for children, but it's not unreasonable to consider them as the primary audience. I think that's what most people would think, not just those running DLP.
The point of Disneyland was that adults and children would be targeted as equals. While the management may think differently these days, children being the main target audience is not part of Disney's ethos. :)
Quote from: "Meph"The point of Disneyland was that adults and children would be targeted as equals. While the management may think differently these days, children being the main target audience is not part of Disney's ethos. :)
However the management decide what the "ethos" is now. In the 50s maybe it didn't work to aim commercial enterprises at a child audience, but that is not the case 60 years later. And the perception of Disney in general is child-centric, like it or not.
I don't go to Straford on Avon to watch the roles of Hamlet and Horatio played by Barney and Bear, or go to Covent Garden to listen to Mr Tumble. So adults should not be going to Disneyland expecting Sir Ian McKellan giving his interpretation of Captain Hook as written by Harold Pinter etc.
Sometimes the attitude on here seems to be postively anti-child, as if they have no right to go to Disneyland! It's like these rather peculiar people who have enormous train sets and doll collections: as if they just can't bear to leave childhood things behind, so they pretend that childhood things are adult ones. It's not how things are meant to be.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"Sometimes the attitude on here seems to be postively anti-child, as if they have no right to go to Disneyland! It's like these rather peculiar people who have enormous train sets and doll collections: as if they just can't bear to leave childhood things behind, so they pretend that childhood things are adult ones. It's not how things are meant to be.
Ouch. To break out a Walt Disney quote:
QuoteOver at our place, we're sure of just one thing: everybody in the world was once a child. So in planning a new picture, we don't think of grown-ups, and we don't think of children, but just of that fine, clean, unspoiled spot down deep in every one of us that maybe the world has made us forget and that maybe our pictures can help recall.
Your Hamlet analogy is missing the point. It's not about making Disneyland highbrow, it's about making sure they don't pander down purely to children, alienating everyone else and probably patronising children in the process.
It just wouldn't work for a sprawling theme park resort like this to dumb down to a "primary audience" like that, and Disney do know it. They may have forgotten it on occasion or gone for the easy, patronising route with some entertainment, but ultimately they know they need a more substantial product than that.
Disneyland should treat children with respect, not the condescension they can feel in the real world, while reigniting a sense of child-like wonder in adults; ultimately bringing both together to meet in the middle. That's where the success (and the money) lies. Look at any Pixar film. As Meph says, everyone is equal in Disneyland.
This seems a bit of a moot point this year anyway. We've moved on from Mickey's Magical Party, thank god. And in my opinion, Disney Dreams is absolutely classic, pure Disney in its fusion of crowd-pleasing animated characters and music with geek-pleasing technology. It panders to no-one, it plays to everyone. It represents that Walt Disney quote down to the ground, probably better than anything else Disneyland Paris has done in the past decade.
Quote from: "Anthony"we're sure of just one thing: everybody in the world was once a child. So in planning a new picture, we don't think of grown-ups, and we don't think of children, but just of that fine, clean, unspoiled spot down deep in every one of us
So the bottom line is that Disney is meant to appeal to children and the children still inside many adults. That still means children. So frequent complaints about things that most children love, i.e characters, links to the films, bright and simple shows are missing that very important point, in my opinion.
Nothing at all wrong with loving Disney as an adult (or dolls and trains for that matter!). As long as we remember that we as adults are only borrowing it. The magic belongs to the children.
Quote from: "Anthony"This seems a bit of a moot point this year anyway. We've moved on from Mickey's Magical Party, thank god. And in my opinion, Disney Dreams is absolutely classic, pure Disney in its fusion of crowd-pleasing animated characters and music with geek-pleasing technology. It panders to no-one, it plays to everyone. It represents that Walt Disney quote down to the ground, probably better than anything else Disneyland Paris has done in the past decade.
Absolutely brilliant. The perfect definition.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"Nothing at all wrong with loving Disney as an adult (or dolls and trains for that matter!). As long as we remember that we as adults are only borrowing it. The magic belongs to the children.
The magic belongs to those who still "keep on believing". Sometimes life makes us lose our dreams. Adults are characterised by their overly rational thought and have forgotten their capacity to dream so as not to suffer. Walt Disney wanted to get into guests' hearts by creating special moments and unforgettable memories. A place like no other on Earth where adults could forget their problems and live their own dreams.
You don't get that thinking as a child. Because children don't know anything about hopes. Does a child understand Mufasa's death? No, and it's Disney, right? "Up", "Bamby", "Peter Pan"?
When Walt said "Disneyland is your land", he didn't mean "Disneyland is children's land".
Excuse my English but it's hard to express something so complex in another language.
Well said Lorum. Disney is for everyone. The whole ethos of Disneyland came about because Walt wanted somewhere he could play together as a family.
Quote from: "Lorum"You don't get that thinking as a child. Because children don't know anything about hopes. Does a child understand Mufasa's death? No, and it's Disney, right? "Up", "Bamby", "Peter Pan"?
On the contrary. Children know all about hope. What they don't know is that it often doesn't work. And incidently children do understand the concept of death once they get to about 5 and it's dealt with in "child-friendly" terms in all the films you mention because
it was expected by the makers that children would make up the majority of the audience . Perhaps "Up" stretched that to teenager, but still.
The thing is children REALLY believe. They think magic is really possible.
Most adults can only pretend to do that. So who's the most important here? I think the children. It's their realm: adults can only visit and therefore should not expect to be the ruling class. Its nice if everyone likes it, but if kids do and adults don't: tough luck adults.
Quote from: "ford prefect"Walt wanted somewhere he could play together as a family.
Exactly. Remember that Walt Disney wasn't just a dreamer, he was also a philosopher, a thinker, an innovator.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"Quote from: "Lorum"You don't get that thinking as a child. Because children don't know anything about hopes. Does a child understand Mufasa's death? No, and it's Disney, right? "Up", "Bamby", "Peter Pan"?
On the contrary. Children know all about hope. What they don't know is that it often doesn't work. And incidently children do understand the concept of death once they get to about 5 and it's dealt with in "child-friendly" terms in all the films you mention because it was expected by the makers that children would make up the majority of the audience . Perhaps "Up" stretched that to teenager, but still.
The thing is children REALLY believe. They think magic is really possible. Most adults can only pretend to do that. So who's the most important here? I think the children. It's their realm: adults can only visit and therefore should not expect to be the ruling class. Its nice if everyone likes it, but if kids do and adults don't: tough luck adults.
Magic happens if you want it to. Forget conjuring tricks and fairy princess and fanciful tales. Disney isn't ABOUT any of those.
Disney is about telling stories and creating a place where the emotions of those stories have free reign.
Those stories can be about a dad spending time in a queue with his child waiting for a ride and having a thumb war, it can be the parents finding little treasures of details from their childhood stories.
There is too much cynicism in the world and it infects all of us. Disneyland is an antidote to cynicism if you want it to be, or it can reinforce it if you only look to the traditional adult role of supervisor, not participant.
Disneyland and its inhabitants are as real as I am. It is a step into a fantasy world that is created by adults based on our memories that our parents created. If that isn't magic then I don't know what is.
Quote from: "DutchBrit"The thing is children REALLY believe. They think magic is really possible. Most adults can only pretend to do that. So who's the most important here? I think the children. It's their realm: adults can only visit and therefore should not expect to be the ruling class. Its nice if everyone likes it, but if kids do and adults don't: tough luck adults.
I think that just reinforces the argument that you need to play to adults as much as children. Children will believe anything, they're happy with the simplest of things. Adults are tougher to please, but ultimately they're the ones who open their wallets for a trip to Disneyland. There's a certain amount of "ok, I'll pay if it makes the kids happy", but ultimately adults will only return to Disneyland and truly enjoy it (read: open their wallets wider) if they experience that sense of wonder just as much themselves.
As I said before, I think with recent changes this has become an unnecessary argument anyway. Even if the advertising is a bit off, DLP is doing a great job playing to all audiences this year. Probably, with it being an anniversary (desperately tries to drag this on-topic), they're hoping to reconnect with a slightly older audience who maybe visited the resort a while ago and are long overdue a return. It seems to be working.
Quote from: "ford prefect"Magic happens if you want it to. Forget conjuring tricks and fairy princess and fanciful tales. Disney isn't ABOUT any of those.
Disney is about telling stories and creating a place where the emotions of those stories have free reign.
Those stories can be about a dad spending time in a queue with his child waiting for a ride and having a thumb war, it can be the parents finding little treasures of details from their childhood stories.
There is too much cynicism in the world and it infects all of us. Disneyland is an antidote to cynicism if you want it to be, or it can reinforce it if you only look to the traditional adult role of supervisor, not participant.
Disneyland and its inhabitants are as real as I am. It is a step into a fantasy world that is created by adults based on our memories that our parents created. If that isn't magic then I don't know what is.
Stop, you stupid guy. You're going to make me cry like an idiot :cry: lol.
Quote from: "Anthony"they're hoping to reconnect with a slightly older audience who maybe visited the resort a while ago and are long overdue a return.
That's true.
Quote from: "ford prefect"Magic happens if you want it to. Forget conjuring tricks and fairy princess and fanciful tales. Disney isn't ABOUT any of those.
Disney is about telling stories and creating a place where the emotions of those stories have free reign.
Those stories can be about a dad spending time in a queue with his child waiting for a ride and having a thumb war, it can be the parents finding little treasures of details from their childhood stories.
There is too much cynicism in the world and it infects all of us. Disneyland is an antidote to cynicism if you want it to be, or it can reinforce it if you only look to the traditional adult role of supervisor, not participant.
Disneyland and its inhabitants are as real as I am. It is a step into a fantasy world that is created by adults based on our memories that our parents created. If that isn't magic then I don't know what is.
Very well said! =D>
Quote from: "ford prefect"Magic happens if you want it to ... If that isn't magic then I don't know what is.
That's the most beautiful thing I've ever read, respect!
:oops: blush
Quote from: "ford prefect"Disneyland is an antidote to cynicism if you want it to be, or it can reinforce it if you only look to the traditional adult role of supervisor, not participant.
Disneyland and its inhabitants are as real as I am. It is a step into a fantasy world that is created by adults based on our memories that our parents created. If that isn't magic then I don't know what is.
This shows a wonderful understanding of the beauty of Disney(Land) and one with which I wholeheartedly agree =D>
Excellent FP :thumbs:
Quote from: "Anthony"I think that just reinforces the argument that you need to play to adults as much as children. Children will believe anything, they're happy with the simplest of things. Adults are tougher to please, but ultimately they're the ones who open their wallets for a trip to Disneyland. There's a certain amount of "ok, I'll pay if it makes the kids happy", but ultimately adults will only return to Disneyland and truly enjoy it (read: open their wallets wider) if they experience that sense of wonder just as much themselves.
Oh, parents will put up with a lot for the sake of their children. I agree that it will help enormously if the parents enjoy Disney, but I think they should be expecting to enjoy things partly with their inner child and partly vicariously through their kids. If people go and really love it, then I think it's great. What is less great is people going repeatedly, yet apparently hating what seem to be absolutely unavoidable elements such as the characters and child-friendly activities. As I have said before, it's like people going to Legoland who hate lego bricks!
But as you say, lets hope that everyone loves the new shows etc and won't go into terrible sulks just because they include the princesses or whatever.
Well yeah, it's ridiculous to be completely against everything child-focused, but these things should only appear where and when they make sense.
For example, I don't know whether anyone has complained about the Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity, but I haven't got a problem with it, as it's not specifically targeted towards children. It's in the Toon Studio (which is set in Toon Town), so it makes sense in the wider story. If people hate toons that much, they can stay away from the area. Plus, whether you'll enjoy the ride has more to do with whether you're scared of rats than how old you are.
However, the the new Princess Pavilion is obviously targeted at children and the niche adult audience that like the characters. Plus, it's in Fantasyland, where people expect these kinds of attractions. It's the same with Dumbo, Casey Jr., Snow White, etc. But all of these attractions can be equally enjoyed by parents, who will appreciate them for different reasons (such as the attention to detail, and nostalgia).
If rides such as these were everywhere, though, there would be a problem. Without the likes of Big Thunder Mountain and Autopia, How can Disney Parks appeal to adults (even if it's just parents returning on their own)?
Quote from: "Meph"Without the likes of Big Thunder Mountain and Autopia, How can Disney Parks adults appeal to adults (even if it's just parents returning on their own)?
Is Autopia such a big adult draw? I thought it was rather dull, but my (then) 4 year old loved it, so I put up with it.
The thing is, if I was a parent of older children, or an adult going with other adults, I'm not sure that I would choose to go to Disneyland Paris at all, apart from the odd day. Given the costs involved for longer stays, you might as well go to the US and in WDW particularly, where there is more than enough to entertain the adults.
However most people don't much fancy the idea of a 8 hour flight with children under 8, so that's when you look a bit closer to home. Disney is a global business after all: I think they can afford to specialise a bit. So you market DLP as the (young) family destination for Europeans, give them a good time and then wave them off to to US when they need more than a 1.5 parks to keep them happy...
But perhaps this is a different topic for a different thread: maybe we should let this one get back to the 20th Anniversary!
Hi guys! Not sure if anyone posted this, but Central Plaza looks great without the stage, just like it used to be.
:ears: DisneyManiac :ears:
Also guys, I noticed we are going a bit off subject... I know you like a chat, but can we keep on track. Thanks!
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Quote from: "DutchBrit"Quote from: "Meph"Without the likes of Big Thunder Mountain and Autopia, How can Disney Parks adults appeal to adults (even if it's just parents returning on their own)?
Is Autopia such a big adult draw? I thought it was rather dull, but my (then) 4 year old loved it, so I put up with it.
The thing is, if I was a parent of older children, or an adult going with other adults, I'm not sure that I would choose to go to Disneyland Paris at all, apart from the odd day. Given the costs involved for longer stays, you might as well go to the US and in WDW particularly, where there is more than enough to entertain the adults.
However most people don't much fancy the idea of a 8 hour flight with children under 8, so that's when you look a bit closer to home. Disney is a global business after all: I think they can afford to specialise a bit. So you market DLP as the (young) family destination for Europeans, give them a good time and then wave them off to to US when they need more than a 1.5 parks to keep them happy...
But perhaps this is a different topic for a different thread: maybe we should let this one get back to the 20th Anniversary!
It is the one place that you can forget about being a grown up with a mortgage, bills to pay etc. I can't think of many adults that wouldn't love to be able to escape it all for a couple of days and just go back to being as carefree as a child and absorb the wonder of it all.
I love it as a family because I can see the magic of it all through my childrens eyes, and they can see that it's easy as an adult to forget about being all serious for a couple of days. My daughter often gets upset at the thought of growing up for some reason.
I think that was what Walt wanted, a place where children and adults are on a par with each other, neither is more important or influential than the other.
I know many people who go and haven't got kids. I will still be going when my children are all grown up. Having said that, I think most teenagers would suddenly lose the desire to be 'cool' when they walk through the gates to DLRP, and fully embrace their inner child and wear their Mickey ears with pride.
Everyone becomes more childlike there, so maybe they aren't gearing celebrations toward children, but to all of our 'inner children'.
It looks like the Peter Andre filming was for Channel 5. They have just aired an advert and have got a website for it.
They are running a competition to win two prizes of a holiday at DLP from 11th to 13th April:
Return travel on Eurostar
Accommodation in a Disney Hotel, including breakfast
Meal vouchers
Park tickets
1 x Character breakfast
1 x VIP Fastpass
Meet & Greet with Peter Andre
VIP viewing of the Disney Dreams show
AND feature in a special Disneyland Paris TV ad
To enter, you have to send in a written, video or audio happy birthday to DLP!
Details @ http://www.channel5.com/shows/disneyland-paris (http://www.channel5.com/shows/disneyland-paris%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
You can watch the TV Spot here currently airing on Channel 5, here - http://www.channel5.com/shows/disneylan ... he-tv-spot (http://www.channel5.com/shows/disneyland-paris/articles/watch-the-tv-spot%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Where did the massive 20 come from? On the castle? Is it video cleverness or is it really there? It isn't there now
Quote from: "lubynoo"Where did the massive 20 come from? On the castle? Is it video cleverness or is it really there? It isn't there now
I can't see the video from my county but when the shots have been taken there was a 20th logo projected on the Castle behind Peter Andre.
It wasn't. They overlayed the image in post-production. :)
Quote from: "Josh"It wasn't. They overlayed the image in post-production. :)
No, it really was projected on the castle - as seen in these pictures taken during filiming from RadioDisneyClub.fr
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Oooooh, that's clever, it looks really 3d in the video. I wonder if they will project it as part of dreams or at all during the season, or if it was just for press.
Wow! It honestly looked like it had just been overlayed. Those projections for Disney Dreams are really clear!
I don't believe that's projected those are the castle LED's...
I meant the 20th logo. Not the pink lights. XD
Speaking of Peter Andre and Disney, I'm sorry to drag this up but... he and his ex-wife once performed an unforgettable version of A Whole New World from Aladdin. Seriously, whenever I hear A Whole New World now, all I can think of is this version. Is that because it's superior to the original? You be the judge ;)
[youtube:29wuxsld]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5RVM-aUtJM&feature=related[/youtube:29wuxsld]
I think I fell over and died when Jordan opened her mouth.
My goodness....
I don't even think I have words. Walt probably turned his grave when he heard such an awful rendition.
Alan, you'r a sadist posting that!!!
Hello, what all happens today in 1st April 2012 - first day of 20th Anniversary of Disneyland Paris?
Something special, or all was to see yesterday? Any big opening or special show? Something? just a little quiet today in first day of new season :(
Something like this - [youtube:z8l1g8s2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKQMuBm8fw[/youtube:z8l1g8s2]
or something like happening with lots of people... ?
Thank you!
Here's a summary of events from yesterday (Sat March 31st). Paris is now looking good again on the world resort stage :)
[youtube:vwzffom4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7hRrGc9tk[/youtube:vwzffom4]
Woooooooooooooooow looks amazing! Saw mike wowaski wiv light!!!! He in a new show? Or out for 20th promotion day?
The promo looks really good.
Here's the morning Park Opening Ceremony from 10am on 31st March. Fabienne Bergmans, winner of The Voice Kids Netherlands, did a great job singing "Magic Everywhere!" live, before Salma Hayek arrived to "cut" the ribbon and we stormed the carpet, confetti flying everywhere...
[youtube:1q0h7rpm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-4pUBAk-Rc[/youtube:1q0h7rpm]
As usual, you can play a fun game of "spot Kristof" in my videos. ;)
Ooh and we met Vasile Sirli on the carpet afterwards! Kristof asked him for a photo and he reached out for the camera, thinking we wanted him to take OUR picture! What a lovely man.
And now here's the full evening Dedication Ceremony, filmed as if you were there.
[youtube:1okxhf1x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtokG6PZhno[/youtube:1okxhf1x]
As soon as we walked in the park, we spotted the illuminated puppets from the World of Color pre-show, brought over specially for this occasion. As we waited on Town Square, a playlist of great old music played out across the park, including the Main Street Electrical Parade and music from the original Space Mountain area loop. Two videos then followed to build the anticipation, one we've seen before, but I included them just for the sake of completeness.
The actual ceremony begins at 10 minutes in, followed by the most incredible walk down Main Street ever, at 15:50. Cast Members from all the lands and attractions came out to wave guests down to Central Plaza... It was really quite emotional, and such a blur. Glad I filmed it so you can see it too! :)
I think Kristof is coming back from picking up park maps ;)
That video had my skin tingling, your so lucky to have been there, I've never seen WOC but those Puppet things look great.
The morning Park Opening Ceremony was for all the guest, or only for press or Annual Passport owners? Because from the video, it seems that there are too many people for a press/VIP event but also too few people for a great opening ceremony....
Guests were being let through the arcades if they didn't want to watch.
Quote from: "Anthony"And now here's the full evening Dedication Ceremony, filmed as if you were there.
[youtube:1s5hdmhu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtokG6PZhno[/youtube:1s5hdmhu]
As soon as we walked in the park, we spotted the illuminated puppets from the World of Color pre-show, brought over specially for this occasion. As we waited on Town Square, a playlist of great old music played out across the park, including the Main Street Electrical Parade and music from the original Space Mountain area loop. Two videos then followed to build the anticipation, one we've seen before, but I included them just for the sake of completeness.
The actual ceremony begins at 10 minutes in, followed by the most incredible walk down Main Street ever, at 15:50. Cast Members from all the lands and attractions came out to wave guests down to Central Plaza... It was really quite emotional, and such a blur. Glad I filmed it so you can see it too! :)
Very nice video Anthony, like always! So nice to hear again the musics of the Main Street Electrical Parade and the original Space Mountain. The instrumental "Zee-bee-doo-daah" (sorry for the lyrics) can be always heard during the opening of the park in the morning?
The walk down Main Street was at 15:50 ? :?
And by the way, you did it on purpose? The video is 20 minutes and 20 seconds long, like Disney Dreams! ;)
[youtube:tds9u7a9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOv9OK5BBhs[/youtube:tds9u7a9]
Has this been posted here yet? Apologies if it's already here.
I've heard it mentioned but just found this video of the cast member flash mob.
I wish I could have taken my family down main street like those guests at the end, what a fantastic experience that must have been. :D
Thanks for posting. All the togetherness and harmony from the CMs, they look happy to work for Disney and great to see them taking part. Puts last weeks strikers to shame.
The flashmob was great. They kept high fiving my kids as we walked down the purple carpet. It was very emotional (there were some cast members on strike too).
In addition to the dedication and flash mobs, there were some cool "happenings" in each of the lands with live music, dancing and characters. They kept having fountain shows in the moat, and there were huge character cavalcades into the hub (unmarked). The crowds at dreams were a nightmare and the parade is very poor.
Tony Baxter's talk was excellent, and having the ambassadors of DLP, DL, WDW, TDL, and HKDL was awesome. The tribute and memories video was very touching (and for me upsetting - going through a divorce right now and many of the clips had personal memories).
We were there for 13 hours and are exhausted. So today we are taking it easy and going to the 20th anniversary concert at Billy Bob's tonight. The Moody Family (used to be brothers, but Carlton's son is now old enough to join In - Carlton also played in frontierland yesterday!)are playing.
Sounds like everything is going very well.
The park celebrations have been great. Dreams is awesome. There are lots of broken AA's however and half the counter service restaurants are shut leading to very long lines :-(
But the party yesterday was awesome.
What's Disney with out long lines. Can't wait to see Dreams, would you recommend a Disney Dreams Dinner?
It's great to see you posting again, Davewasbaloo. Hope everything is okay with you and your family. I'm glad to hear everything went smoothly yesterday without too much impact from the strikers.
Thanks 15 magic years. Sadly I found out my wife was with other guys when I was away on business and a thief, so I have had to prioritise other things.
The lines were unacceptable. Yesterday had huge crowds, and yet the Lucky Nugget, Last Chance Cafe, Col Hathi, and toad hall were all closed. This led to lines out the door to try to get food and people sat on the pavement eating. Does that sound acceptable to you? (That was not just peak time when we first checked, but also at 3:30). We went to the village to Annettes (Where they halved the options again this year), for some respite.
Dreams dinner packages are ok, but if you are willing to wait 30 mins before the show, it is not as necessary as say the Fantasmic packages in the states). But not a bad menu, very cute design.
Dreams is excellent. The first night we were in the hub. Great view. Last night we were at the discoveryland rocks (not recommended. We may try near coke corner tomorrow night.
good to hear from you again Dave. The restaurant closures on such an obviously busy day sounds very strange. They must have lost a lot of custom that day.
Can we see the little celebrations for lands in next days in the year? Or it was only for 12th April?
good to see you on the forum again Dave. Hope you managed to take lots of pictures! I can imagine how cool the flashmob must have been!
The flash mob looked awesome. I get choked up everytime I watch it. I can't believe so many eateries were closed on such an important day! What reasoning can they possibly give?
Great to hear from you again Dave, by the way. Have a great trip! I'll look forward to the trip report when you have time :)
For those that would like to read what Tony Baxter had to say during his Masterclass.
Tony Baxter Masterclass (//http://www.dlp.info/News/2012/04/tony-baxter-masterclass/)
It was an awesome event.
@ davewasbaloo sorry for your probs hope being @ Dlrp helped ,been there got the t-shirt :cry:
the flashmob looked fab i only wish i could have een there.....makes me so emotional seeing all the pics and vids from yesterday :oops:
Davewasbaloo i would not have been happy with the food situation yesterday either....what were they thinkin??
i cant wait to go in july it's only going to be me and my 10yr old and have never been in nthe summer before,my oldest is 19 now and has lost interest.....so looking forward to it though :D
Probably my favourite visual from the 20th AnniversaryL
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Quote from: "davewasbaloo"The lines were unacceptable. Yesterday had huge crowds, and yet the Lucky Nugget, Last Chance Cafe, Col Hathi, and toad hall were all closed. This led to lines out the door to try to get food and people sat on the pavement eating. Does that sound acceptable to you? (That was not just peak time when we first checked, but also at 3:30). We went to the village to Annettes (Where they halved the options again this year), for some respite.
Dreams dinner packages are ok, but if you are willing to wait 30 mins before the show, it is not as necessary as say the Fantasmic packages in the states). But not a bad menu, very cute design.
Dreams is excellent. The first night we were in the hub. Great view. Last night we were at the discoveryland rocks (not recommended. We may try near coke corner tomorrow night.
First of all - very, very good to hear from you again. Sounds like it has been a rough time and I really hope you continue strongly through it :)
This sounds crazy indeed with the restaurants and one would have thought that every single line, in every single restaurant would have been open yesterday. So for 4 restaurants to be all closed is really flabbergasting me! Could it be because of the strikes still going on?
That being said I am happy to hear that the party yesterday was awesome - what I wouldn't have done to have been there :D
Just to add to the restaurant closures on 12th Fuento del oro and Agrabah, despite a sign outside Lucky Nugget telling you to go there! I had a bag of crisps and a coke for lunch and finally ate at the Chalet de marionette at 6ish and to my surprise,it was really quiet! I can only believe it must have been something to do with the strikers, it must have cost Disney Thousands in lost revenue, but what a great day to be there. Disney as you expect it to be!
Quick note for eduk, The dining package is expensive and only has two choices for courses, I have not been in the "VIP" area but got a reasonable view of everything on 12th and 13th so would'nt bother personally. As a PS, people atarted gathering two hours before Dreams so you need to be prepared! The show itself is awesome and so worth the wait!
@Captain Rocket.
Thank you for the reply. We haven't made up our minds for sure on the dinning package, and we'd only do it once. We're going in July and will be there over the 14th so I expect it to be very busy. Maybe that week there'll be two performances of Dreams a day which might help. And what with finding a good spot for Fantillusions, there could be alot of standing around waiting, so a VIP dinning package is tempting for me. I'm glad you had a good time on the 12th and found somewhere to eat, what a great experience.
The 20th Anniversary, has, so far, been a big success in my eyes. Whilst a new attraction, or a brand new parade would have been amazing, Disneyland have worked with what they've got and seem to have re-worked their priorities.
Disney Dreams! gives the park a permanent infrastructure for nightly shows far into the future, their "Project Sparkle" period showed how they wanted to maximise what they had in the parks, and the occasions for the 12th April were cost-cheap and effective: the flash-mob, getting Tony Baxter & the International Ambassadors over, the videos with celebrities and cast-members wishing the park Happy Birthday - all relatively simple and relatively cheap, but effective.
The anniversary also had a great branded, consistent "look", and they seem to be very much pushing the 20th into the media.
They've also set the ball rolling for a great future, with the funds in for a bettered WDS, Ratatouille and a promise for a better esplanade with the World of Disney store.
Quote from: "captain rocket"Quick note for eduk, The dining package is expensive and only has two choices for courses, I have not been in the "VIP" area but got a reasonable view of everything on 12th and 13th so would'nt bother personally. As a PS, people atarted gathering two hours before Dreams so you need to be prepared! The show itself is awesome and so worth the wait!
2 hours! I hope this is only on the 12th..I doubt normal park guests are that organised.
I think you may be right gldc, we only realised that people were settling down for the show when we were passing through central plaza and as we had been up late the night before we decided that we would join them and got a seat right in front of the castle and settled down. In my opinion this show really is worth the effort, it was awesome and got a great reaction from the crowd. One thing that did surprise me was how close to the castle you could sit/stand, literally at the curbs edge in front of the pathway from the castle itself! As a ps people started "kerb sitting" for the parade 90 minutes before the show yesterday.
We had such a great time. We got the Dreams package for my birthday dinner at the Silver Spur. It turns out that they're not just doing the menu at Walts and the Steakhouse; it's at Blue Lagoon and Auberge du Cendrillon (so, in other words, all of the table service restaurants). The desert is meant to be a surprise, but it was really nice. My mum also bought a birthday cake (to my embarrassment XD). However, at the end of the meal, it was getting past 9 o'clock (because the kitchen had a lot of orders, so our mains and deserts were late), so we had to rush out and get to the reserved area.
Surprisingly, there was plenty of room. I've never noticed, before, that Main Street slopes down, slightly, so we were slightly higher up to the crowds around Central Plaza. The only problem was that one of the posts with the speakers was in the way; plus, one of the trees on the roadside. Still, we got a good view.
The rest of the holiday was great, as well. It was funny when I arrived on Tuesday evening at the New Port Bay, because the two ambassadors walked passed check-in, just as we got in the queue.
We missed the flashmob, because they only let 2000 people in for the opening ceremony.
Still, the presentation with Tony Baxter was brilliant. It was my first time to a fan event. Where was everyone else sitting? Also, the entire centre column was reserved for people wearing special IDs around their necks. Does anyone know who they were?
After that, we queued up for his autograph. I was near the back, so I never got a chance to see him. We were waiting for about two hours, and he even called off a meeting in order to see more fans. We rushed off to the stairs in order to get a photo with him, and luckily, I did. Jut before he did, he said to the cast member next to him, "This is crazy!" because the rest of the fans in the queue were stalking him like paparazzi. Are all fan events like this? :S
It was funny, though, because we bumped into him in the Emporium the next day. He said he was given few things to buy before he left, because he was leaving that afternoon. I still didn't get his autograph. XD
The group of Americans were from the Disneyland fan club in Anaheim, Disney are only advertising the Dream Package at Walts and the Silver Spur.
Wow, I feel even more lucky to walk the purple carpet, an event I will never forget.
The central rows were the ambassadors, management from opening day, several imagineer from Glendale, and the southern California Disneyana Club (they paid a fortune for special treatment including lunch at the California Grill with Tony).
We were sat in the second row on the right hand side just across from the Ambassadors.
As for Dreams, on the 10th, we got a position in the middle of the hub about 35 minutes before show time. The 12th was a zoo. We contemplated waiting the 90 minutes but as we had seen the show before opted for a ride on Phantom Manor and Orbitron instead (the kids have spent 2 weeks travelling 1000 miles around France with me and also let me sit through Tony's talk, so when they asked to ride, I did not deny them).
Busy nights they show Dreams twice. We are going into the park shortly (we had a lay in after the excellent gig at Billy Bob's last night, and spent the afternoon swimming). Dreams is at 9:30 and the park closes at 11:00 tonight with a 2nd showing shortly thereafter! I imagine summer could be similar?
Great to see you back Dave, sorry to hear of your troubles.
Reading these posts sees my excitement levels ever rising for our trip in 22 days. I can't wait to see Disneyland Park after all the recent refurbishments. Main ST USA looks stunning in the photos and videos I have seen.
We went in 2002 and 2007, but 2012 with the 20th Anniversary seems much more like a celebration than the 10th and 15th, and the refurbishments and enhancements have made the resort look world class, and with more to come.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Busy nights they show Dreams twice. We are going into the park shortly (we had a lay in after the excellent gig at Billy Bob's last night, and spent the afternoon swimming). Dreams is at 9:30 and the park closes at 11:00 tonight with a 2nd showing shortly thereafter! I imagine summer could be similar?
I'm not sure that they will have two showings of Dreams! during the summer as the Fantalusion Parade is at 10pm, but who knows??
Yes I was thinking that, it won't be dark enough for two performances of Dreams and Fantillusion, unless the park closes later.
Quote from: "captain rocket"The group of Americans were from the Disneyland fan club in Anaheim
I had a feeling they were American. XD It sounded as though they had a session with Baxter earlier that morning, as well.
Quote from: "captain rocket"Disney are only advertising the Dream Package at Walts and the Silver Spur.
Yeah, it seemed strange that they were doing that. We only found out that they had the menu at the other restaurants when the cast member at the entrance to the Silver Sper told us. She showed us the menu for the Blue Lagoon, but it didn't sound very appealing.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Wow, I feel even more lucky to walk the purple carpet, an event I will never forget.
You should be! I'm very jealous. XD
Davewasbaloo.......you sound as if you've had a blast.......your children must think your the best dad ever :thumbs:
hope yor trobles have eased :D
i cant wait to take my daughter this summer our 1st warm experience of the park.ha!ha! disney dreams i cant wait :D
I just read Kristof's great story "Last Trip To The Moon" on the (amazing) website Generations Disneyland Paris (link (//http://www.disneylandparis-generations.com/en/story/last-trip-to-the-moon/)) and I couldn't help but notice that a lot of stories on the website are based on De la Terre a la Lune, and how great it was.
Reading about so many good memories on the first Space Mountain (and almost no stories on the 'new' version), do you think DLRP will finally notice how great is was and think it would be a great idea to bring some of the original elements that made the experience unforgettable (especially the music) back? [-o<
Quote from: "JelleP"Do you think DLRP will finally notice how great is was and think it would be a great idea to bring some of the original elements that made the experience unforgettable (especially the music) back? [-o<
They could even market it as a new attraction, perhaps along with a bigger offering like Ratatouille, and market it as Space Mountain: Relaunched or Return to the Moon ("Space Mountain: Retourner sur la Lune": I like it).
The ride could go for the storyline that the original astronauts of "From The Earth To The Moon" have decide to revisit the moon, or take inspiration from the seuqal, "Around the Moon" (there's a lot of details in the sequel about the various effects felt when nearing the moon, gravity temperature etc: could make great inspiration for new effects), or have a new storyline altogether.
It'd be affordable, pleasing to the fans, fit better with the Discoveryland theme, and I don't think that the the majority of the current Disneyland guests would know of the fact it was refreshed last time.
While they're at it in fact, they could restore Vincint Price to the Manor ..... :lol: =D>
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Disneyland Paris 20th Anniversary to be extended for 6-12 months.
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Ha ha. I didn't think they'd actually do it this time. So I'm guessing we can expect the same stuff going on? That'll give them time until Ratatouille is closer to completion.
Exactly.
Hi Lorum does this mean that we can expect the same stuff going on e.g. Adventureland Celebrates!, Discoveryland Celebrates!, Fantasyland Celebrates!, Frontierland Celebrates! and Main Street, U.S.A Celebrates. Or will that the events that were on one of celebration be extended.
All the events you refer to were one day events on 12th April this year i.e the actual birthday. They will not be on when you go, in fact the number of shows these days is non existent!
Any1 know anymore information on this? Wills Dreams nightime show continue? And later closing time?
Is it true that Disney is extending the 20th anniversary, any info on it (ie, how much longer) would be great, as am willing to rearrange my trip for the bouns of the longer opening hours and the warmer weather :)
They have announced a six month extension.