so i plan on improving the entire resort, as it needs alot of work. i'm starting off with studios so here goes. please comment on my ideas, and i will improve them.
So here is my idea for studios.
Here is the park map to show expansion:
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First area, backlot:
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The roads from tram tour to the gates next to rock n roller will be cleared and trees in the way moved. This will allow for a full sized parade. The armaggeddon show will be changed to maybe a pirates of the carribean movie special effects show, with a queue area. The blockbuster cafe building will be demolished and built double story and expanding back against the road, providing enough space for a buffet restaurant, shop(the shop would sell pirates of the carribean and aerosmith products and cafe. A tunnel will be built running underneath studio tram tour. This will lead to the expansion area, and a footpath can be built once construction is complete. Disruption would be minimal and rock n rollercoaster and the stunt show could remain open during most of the work.
Next up, pixar place:
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As seen on the park map, this area changes most. Animagique is getting old, so it would be changed to finding nemo the musical, it would need minor changes to the stage area, and decor, but no major construction. The art of Disney animation would be demolished and rebuilt, but as two storeys. So part of the building would become walt disney's story, as shown as the red area. The carpets ride could be moved to adventureland, and a new version of the dumbo system themed to pixar characters. The character meeting place would be demolished and it would be the entrance to sci-fi dine in, with the restaurant built between crush's coaster and costuming. At this point, a pixar souvenir cart area would be placed in the large, open space, and the area after walt disney's story would be named pixar place.
If there is not enough space for parade floats, the walt Disney/mickey statue would be moved to the place de stars, with fountains surrounding it. Large gates would be put next to studio tram tour for the parade floats to enter from a staff area. Another footpath would be built next to toy story land, leading to the expansion area.
These works would close attractions for up to a full year. However, work could be done at once, closing the entire animation studio area, speeding up work without having to worry about safety for guests.
Next we move into the expanded area, and what an area:
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So, the tunnels for guests would lead to the current staff area behind the park. It would feature 3 rides, 1 water show arena, 1 stage area, 1 restaurant, 2 cafes and 2 shops. The works would also make a storage area for the parade floats, access roads for the new staff area, and a staff car park.
The whole expansion would be done at the same time. A large ride would be at the front, having a circular shape, possibly an eticket or toystory midway mania. To the right is a large, double story restaurant, with a capacity of several hundred, and an underground kitchen, giving more space to seat guests. Infront of ride A's queue area is the shop and cafe, and beyond that is a small, under 6's ride. This ride could in theory just be a themed ride they have bought off the shelf, as the park doesn't appeal to younger people enough outside of the toon area.
To the right is a stage, the seating area about two thirds the size of the car stunt show. This stage would be home to an imported version of the Indiana jones stunt show from wdw. Shows would be presented in English and French, at scheduled times. Between this and the lake is a cafe and shop, including a path that could leads to future development behind the expansion.
At the far end of this new area is the studio lake. Here, a fireworks show can be hosted, along with mist screens, lasers, pyrotechnics and a large series of fountains, so fantasmic or world of colour could easily be used, but a new show would be ideal. Below is this area:
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This image shows the top of the expansion. To the left is a new, reimagined version of the great movie ride. In this version, it is on a boat. Guests board with a guide "through the movies" as they start off seeing the beginnings of film, followed by animation in the beginnings, before the ride enters movie's biggest baddies. In this area there is a lift hill before a large animatronic baddie's arms swooped out and the boat travels down a slope, with water sprays entering the boats into a section on 4d films, before finally guests must put on the 3d glasses and see clips of 3d films, before finally returning to the boarding area.
Guests would queue up outside, with several actual movie props and wide areas that cast members could sell bottles of drinks in the summer, when the queues are over 50 minutes. They would then enter the building where they are moved to separate boarding areas, French guide and English guide.
So here is a timeline for things to happen:
• Year 1: press release on expansion, but not of work on current park. groundbreaking on expansion, and studio tram tour closes for about a week or two(maybe more) to add the gate which will be used to let parade floats into park. It will be passed on as easier entrance for maintenance. Also, trees will be relocated from the forest area so that the staff areas can be built again.
• Year 2: design period on parade begins. Armageddon closed for "general maintenance". During this period of time, it is stripped of all signs, electricals, etc. until only the building is left. Then it is demolished with no press release. Work on the roads and paths begin. Construction on lake and great movie ride begins, with 50% of forest needed to be cleared finished.
• Year 3:construction of pirates special effects show begins. Advertising begins in the resort, with posters saying only "the studios is changing". Meanwhile, maintenance takes place on animagique, and work is done to adapt stage to be ready for the nemo musical, but as yet no information leaked on it. E-ticket ride's construction begins.
• Year4: lake should be completed, and seating should begin to be built. All area for expansion should be ready, and work on the staff area begins. Studio tram tour closed again, with footpaths running under it constructed. This may keep the tour closed for many months. Area next to toy story where one footpath starts is cordoned off. Coffee area next to moteurs action cleared and work begins here as well. By july, advertising for pirates of the Caribbean special effects show begins, with a November opening. At opening, it is announced "art of Disney animation" will close indefinitely. Work on clearing the path for parade complete. By now, parade design should be finished, and construction of floats begins at WDI.
• Year 5: great movie ride building complete. Queue area and inside attraction work begins. Mickey/walt statue removed for "needed maintenance". Mickey's hat from art of Disney put in it's position temporarily. Art of Disney animation is covered by Hollywood facades, while it is stripped bare. In September, press release of a multi million project on the entire resort (not specifying the studios). By end of year, art of Disney demolished, and during one night, the sorceror's hat removed and area paved over. No announcements on it.
• Year 6: Work on e-ticket ride complete. Queue area begins on work. New art of Disney building begins, and press release on it ,not mentioning walt disney's story attraction. Entrances for footpaths finished but covered up by fencing. Place des stars surrounded by construction fence and is removed. Within 2 months, fountains and walt/mickey statue placed in middle. Animagique closes. Large scale press release in which it is announced that toon studio will become pixar place, with finding nemo musical opening april in year 7. Carpets removed and new, pixar version added almost instantly. Floats finished and are stored at Anaheim.
• Year 7: construction of Indiana jones show begins, along with construction of sci-fi dine in. Blockbuster cafe reduced to half capacity as half the building stripped of all fittings. Expansion cafes, restaurants and shops finished. Pixar souvenirs carts put in place, and art of Disney's exterior finishes with larger sorceror's hat placed as entrance. Work inside begins. Press release announces blockbuster cafe closing and restaurant of expansion will open in January. Three rides of expansion finished, and ride a is named.
• Year 8: sci-fi dine in complete and opens mid September. Blockbuster cafe demolished and construction begins on new version. It includes aerosmith and pirates of caribean shop, cafe and double storey restaurant. All rides and show areas in expansion completed, with paving works nearly finished. Staff areas finished and parade floats are shipped over. The parade is announced along with details on water arena and stunt show. Art of Disney opens, as does walt disney's stories.
• Year 9: advertising begins, as the park stays open until 10 o'clock on most nights during the summer, with live music, rides open late, nemo musical performing, fireworks and light show in moteurs action show area. Finally, in October, the expansion opens to the public. The new parade begins, and character meet and greets are available in front of the walt Disney/mickey statue, because the toon studio location was demolished.
Theres some great ideas in there - I especially like the idea of adding a new under 6 ride - there really isn't much for a young child to do in the Studios, other than the Cars Rally, flying carpets, and the new Slinky and parachute rides.
I quite like Animagique, but a change would be welcome - would be nice if they could do something from maybe Up!, as Nemo has already been brought into the proposed pixar place with Crush's Coaster.
Maybe even a 'Soarin' type ride with the house and all those balloons!! =) (I do love Soarin')
I like the idea of a bigger parade too - I wasn't overly keen on the Studios one when I went last year - preferring the Stars and Cars one they had in the Disneyworld studios.
Any expansion of what I feel is a undersized park, has got to be a good thing. Bravo. =D>
Thanks for that
I really like the idea of using tunnels to expand the park behind the Tram Tour. I'm surprised no one has thought of that before. :? One thing that you're missing is the ratatouille ride, but other than that, you've got some really good ideas. :)
Quote from: "Meph"I really like the idea of using tunnels to expand the park behind the Tram Tour. I'm surprised no one has thought of that before. :? One thing that you're missing is the ratatouille ride, but other than that, you've got some really good ideas. :)
Ah yes, I forgot about the Ratatouille ride - that should be great, and for small kids too. :thumbs:
Quote from: "strawjaw"Quote from: "Meph"I really like the idea of using tunnels to expand the park behind the Tram Tour. I'm surprised no one has thought of that before. :? One thing that you're missing is the ratatouille ride, but other than that, you've got some really good ideas. :)
Ah yes, I forgot about the Ratatouille ride - that should be great, and for small kids too. :thumbs:
thanks for mentioning. is it possible to see the area of toy story and ratatouille on any maps? all maps of dlp being old has been very annoying.
It's a shame that Bing haven't done any birds eye helicopter photos.
i know that a lot of people think they didn't think through the studios, but look at a map and you can see there is huge amounts of open space behind the park. they designed it as huge in the 1990s, it can become big.
Actually, that would explain why they put Catastrophe Canyon miles away from the rest of the tour. They must be planning on moving it over to that side eventually.
Quote from: "Meph"Actually, that would explain why the put Catastrophe Canyon miles away from the rest of the tour. They must be planning on moving it over to that side eventually.
I know. Maybe the plan is to remove the trees, and giving room for major expansion
i have a couple of ideas coming up, but would really like it if i could get some ideas to incorporate
i have been working on a couple of ideas for disneyland park. nothing too big, but i would really appreciate ideas
so, i have redesigned my plans for the studios. after this i'm going to start working on the resort, and then go onto dlp. here goes
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as you can see, its much bigger than my original plan. it now consists of a lot of indoor space, so it really can be used in all weather.
its split into several studio areas.
as you enter a revamped studio 1, which now has large projection screens displaying disney movie trailers, you look out to a much longer hollywood boulevard. it moves all the way to the lake, where world of color is shown everynight. studio tram tour has been moved to the side, so there is much more space.
front lot
this is actually the entire existing studios park excluding toon studio, just known as a collective. but also part of this is the extended hollywood boulevard. to the left is the great movie ride, but in a new form. instead of on tracks, this is now a boat ride. opposite it is toy story midway mania. armageddon is replaced by a pirates of the carribean special effects show.
the great movie ride
this ride is a modernised version of the ride in florida. the queueline stays together until it splits in two, french and english. this chooses the language the ride is in. first you enter a room where you put on 3d glasses, and view a 4d film. meanwhile, the room slowly moves downwards, in a similar style to phantom manor. then you leave the room and board a boat with a tour guide. first scene, the history of cinema, then a cowboy shootout with real actors in the room. you next enter a room of the great villians. this happens up a lift hill, until suddenly, flashing lights show an animatronic medusa from the little mermaid, there is a large drop, and then a room featuring the heroes of cinema. the ride ends, and you leave through a shop selling photos of your group.
pixar studios
next we will turn to the right. toon studio becomes pixar studios, and features a double crush. the flying carpets are removed and in its place a copy of crush's coaster. this idea is actually by anthony, but it's really great. however a facade that makes it look like 1 big studio would be used.
animagique is replaced by finding nemo the musical. and an entrance from the ratatouille area leads into a new area, for other pixar characters, including one station for the walle based monorail style ride. this makes a loop of front lot and pixar studios, and stops at the first indoor studio area.
tv studios
here, behind aerosmith, is a large indoor space. it is actually underground, so that the area above can be used for staff and services. inside is an ice rink, where a disney on ice production is shown. there are also a collection of small, funfair style rides, themed to playhouse disney and some disney channel shows. there are several food stands, themed to disney tv characters. often, small shows pretending to film will be acted out. in the back are escalators leading up to the area behind the lake, backlot toilets in this area
backlot
in this area is the indiana jones stunt show, the sounds dangerous show, and a large ferris wheel of the same size as that at californian adventure. also there would be soarin' and several waterfront restaurants and cafes. right at the back of this area, is a tall rollercoaster, loosely themed to getting round the studios in time for filming. often street entertainment would take place. this would also be home to a 3 key hotel based on the movies. this hotel would get 30 mins of extra magic hours every morning.
water lot
the final area is the water lot. here is studio tram tour, a water show, similar to the preshow for the tram tour in florida, a flume ride, and a ride similar to storm surge at thorpe park(look it up). throughout this area are squirters, water effects, and other things so that even if you don't go on a water ride, there is a good chance you will get wet. there are also toilets and one eaterie.
so what do you think, here is a timeline and costs breakdown. it is probably far from the actual costs but oh well.
timeline
year 1, ratatouille area is built. 100 million euros. work begins on new area for the studio tram tour
late year 2, studio tram tour is opened in new area, entrance by ratatouille area. 20 million euros
year 3, pixar studios forms, aladdin ride removed and work begins on crush's coaster 2.
year 4, crush's coaster 2 opens. 40 million euros. hollywood boulevard blocked off, studio tram tour's old entrance demolished
year 5, armageddon closes, building demolished, and rebuilt, but double storey. by december, work commences on attraction
year 6, pirates of the carribean special effects opens, 40 million euros. work on phase 3 of pixar studios begins.
year 7, pixar studios phase 3 complete, access still only by ratatouille, 15 million euros
year 8, hollywood boulevard works commence, excavating lake begins at same time.
year 10, excavation complete, piping for world of colour commences, and then lake is filled with water, 20 million euros. hollywood boulevard completed, opens august 130 million euros.
year 11, work begins on walle monorail, excavation for tv studios begins. showings of world of color during the summer.
year13, walle monorail finished, but is not opened to public.30 million euros. construction of tv studios begins.
year 14, water lot work begins, for works, reign of fire set does not get visited by tram tour.
year 15, tv studios construction complete, ice rink not finished, but walle monorail and the rest of this area opens. 150 million euros
year 16, ice stage opens, 20 millions. water lot opens,120 million studio tram tour fully open, entrance from pixar studios closed, now entrance is by hollywood boulevard
year 17, work on backlot.
year 18, backlot opens, 70 million euros. coaster and hotel not complete.
year 19, coaster and hotel open, 90 million euros, world of colour becomes a daily event.
2 decades of work, just under 1 billion euros investment
so, what do you think, please comment and give me ideas on how to improve
thanks
Interesting. What would happen on the Wall-e monorail? Would it just be a normal monorail with Wall-e theming, or would it have events similar to the film?
Quote from: "Meph"Interesting. What would happen on the Wall-e monorail? Would it just be a normal monorail with Wall-e theming, or would it have events similar to the film?
I'm not certain. One idea is that you would ride in a pile of rubbish with walle pushing behind. It would probably be a basic monorail, but I guess dioramas of the film could be used to block the view to dlp
Personally, I think you should make it a themeless monorail, and have it as WDS's equivalent of the train in the Disneyland Park. You could call it the "Studio Tour" and have recorded messages played back to explain the different parts of the park. :)
Quote from: "Meph"Personally, I think you should make it a themeless monorail, and have it as WDS's equivalent of the train in the Disneyland Park. You could call it the "Studio Tour" and have recorded messages played back to explain the different parts of the park. :)
interesting, so it would be the stations that are themed, not the actual ride. in that case, it may be worth it taking a trip round the lake as well. has this been done with a second park before?
I guess it's been done in Tokyo DisneySea, but it doesn't go all the way round. :)
Ok, this idea might come along in version 2.5
i've decided that the backlot is gonna kind of be in the same style as paradise pier. ideas? more to follow in version 2.5
version 2.5 is here tell me what u think
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let me run you think through it.
front lot
front lot has very little change since the first version, the pirates effects show would appear, but now, stitch live and playhouse disney live will be shown in tv studios. in its place is soarin' over the world, the new version of soarin'.
pixar studios
this stays the same as in version 2. however, the monorail is now not themed, it just contains theming at each station. there is a station in each area except front lot.
hollywood boulevard
this area extends further out now, and street entertainment in the style of shooting live!. it contains the same attractions as in version 2, but now food and merchandise carts in the sytle of filming units are set up.
waterlot
this area remains similar to version 2, but now on the waterfront are jetski shows everyday. this area also has a mini parade in the summer. where a small train like the characters express moves through the area. all characters are holding water guns, squirting guests on their way round. this moves non stop.
the pier set
this new idea is based on dca's paradise pier. supposedly the set of an 1900s pier for a period show. this features a ferris wheel, a rollercoaster, old style boardwalk games and a small carousel. crane cameras move around overhead, and a small show on the piers jetty happens.
backlot
this area has the indiana jones show and the sounds dangerous show. all buildings would be "soundstages", and street entertainments is common here.
tv studios
this underground section contains a disney on ice show, stitch live, playhouse disney live, and small rides based on disney tv shows. the entrances are large, moving rooms, where a small clip is shown in the lift down, depicting mickey talking to goofy about how they need to help film for disney channel. just before the doors open into the studios, mickey and goofy turn to look at the guests and say, will you help?
so? what do you think? next up i am working on the disneyland parc
Which bit corresponds to which colour on the map? :)
green is tv studios
hollywood boulevard is the creamy area
water lot is the orange zone
grey is backlot
white is the pier set
i have almost finished disneyland parc, and it includes expansion. all i will say is, fantasyland is getting wet!
also, version 3 of the studios is done, and i'll put it up soon. this will be the final version for a while
version 3 of the studios is now complete and here it is. only a few things have changed.
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what i've done is added a new attraction, lights, camera, DIVE! . its in the pier set. you board a submarine, and the submarine goes under the water. looking out the water, there are little mermaid characters projected onto a glass screen.
in the lake, an area is visibly marked for the jetski show, that would happen opposite the water lot.
i welcome your feedback. i will post my idea for disneyland parc, and then i will do disney village, lake disney, and the rest of the resort
He he. The water would be a little too cold for a jetski show, but I like those ideas.
Do u reckon?
It's something I'd expect to see more in Florida so... then again, they used to have jet skis in the motor show, so ignore me. :oops:
it would probably at the moment just be during high season anyway, and it would be with water lot, where most of the stuff is only in high season
here is my design for dlp. designs first and then i'll do a timeline.
first up is an overview of the new improved dlp
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so as you can see work takes place in all lands except for main street. first up, fronteirland.
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possibly the biggest change is the addition of tom sawyer island. by taking away the islands, and putting in a concrete base, and building ground on top, this area becomes an island with a small river area running through it for the canoes to travel through. yes, the canoes will return to paris. they will be boarded in a new building on the waterfront called the thunder mesa waterway depot. in the same building is the boarding area for the raft boats that take visitors to tom sawyer island.
because of the rafts and canoes returning, there will now be 4 types of boat on the rivers, so to control this, a new control room to make sure everything goes to plan will be built in. also because of the number of boats, some of the land will be removed, and filled with water so that there is enough space.
the tarzan show will also be shown in the theatre in april, from june-august and over the october half term period.
where the toy story meet n greet currently is, there will be the thunder mesa goat farm(a small area where you can pet the goats, a small woody meet n greet and a play area which consists of an indoor and outdoor area, making it suitable year round.
next up, adventureland:
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next to indiana jones, to the left is jungle cruise and to the right is indiana jones adventure.
jungle cruise would be guided in both english and french, and the queues would seperate close to boarding. i think this should feature a new scene, maybe of crocodiles swimming alongside the boats.
indiana jones adventure would feature the disneyland ride, and a stage where an indiana jones show would be shown
the show could be something a long the lines of indiana asking for your help to enter the mystical mayan temple. the show would contain a section where indiana stands between 4 statues, strobe lights begin, the room goes dark and the stage moves upwards to a new set.
on a terrace area overlooking the water is the enchanted tiki room, and on the waterfront is a cafe with bird cages holding up the tables.
next is discoveryland:
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so in this area, discovery mountain is finally built. discovery mountain will feature space mountain, restaurants and a new entrance for nautilus. the train travels through it, and everytime it comes through the mountain, smoke comes out of the tunnel entrances.
space mountain would be in the top half of the building, and queuing on the ground floor. the layout would be the same as the one designed in the 1990s. the current space mountain would be knocked down, and in its place would be the spinning floating ride thing that is at tokyo disneysea. the queueing goes through the middle of the lake area. smoke and flame effects would be in the other half. star tours is updated to star tours II, and in front of the marquee area for star tours would be a permanent, larger version of buzz lightyear's pizza planet. however it would be closer to the pizza planet from toy story, with games machines and animatronic robot guards at the entrance.
behind videopolis is actually for fantasyland, this is actually just the showbuilding. the entrance is in fantasyland. it would be pinocchio, you will find out about this in the fantasyland section.
now its time for fantasyland, but now its actually two areas, fantasyland, and the storybookland. first, fantasyland:
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in the castle courtyard is a small show like the peter pan show at the moment, only with merlin and arthur from the sword in the stone. trying to get people to pull the sword from the stone, but merlin insists that first they need to do magical dances, etc.
when i was last at dlp, i noticed that pinocchio never had a queue more than 5 minutes, meanwhile snow white had queues of 30 minutes. i think that because snow white is more popular, no one goes on pinocchio, so i think if it was moved to the entrance of fantasyland, then it would be used more often.
in the place of pinocchio would be a dark ride for beauty and the beast. it is shocking that a hugely popular film set in france doesn't actually feature in an attraction!
fantasyland stage is removed and the tunnel that runs under the train station would link to the expansion. this will happen in real life, within 20 years(i'm positive), because the tunnel has been there since the parks opening, and an expansion would have happened within the first few years, if their estimates had worked. next to where the stage is, a winnie the pooh ride would be placed.
the expansion now, storybookland:
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all entrances into storybookland are large open books. i'll start from the left and work clockwise.
the first attraction is the original dark ride for the little mermaid, which is the multi-storey version. in the corner is the storybookland gardens, an area for character meet n greets, and a small stage in the middle of the area. several times during the day, the 2011 incarnation of the character train would take place here.
next to this is splash mountain. i decided that talking rabbits and foxes can probably count as "fantasy". next to it is the storybook splashland. this is an area full of water features to get wet in. next along is the mickey's philarmagic theatre, but this has a stage so that seasonal shows could take place in it.
next to the theatre is the matterhorn bobsleds, a near copy of the anaheim attraction. the next attraction is a storybook dark ride. travelling in the omnimover system, guests travel through different stories. next to this are many restaurants, cafes and shops.
next to these shops is a dumbo type ride, where you ride in the albatross from the rescuers films.
timeline
year 1
construction of showbuildings for pinocchio and little mermaid. construction of the waterways depot building.
year 2
removal of land from the river in fronteirland. new character area built.
year 3
pinocchio opens, work on beauty and the beast begins. the concrete block for tom sawyer island put in. landscaping begins late year 3.
year 4
boats delivered for frontierland. tom sawyer island opens in the summer. fantasy festival stage demolished.
year 5
phase 1 of storybookland opens foundations for discovery mountain.
year 6
star tours II opens. construction of discovery mountain begins. beauty and the beast opens
year 7
jungle cruise works begin. tiki room works also begin.
year 8
tiki room opens. construction of winnie the pooh.
year 9
jungle cruise opens in the summer. construction of goat farm, play area and meet n greet in frontierland begins.
year 10
space mountain is fitted inside discovery mountain. frontierland petting zoo and play area opens. winnie the pooh opens.
year 11
ground floor of discovery mountain finished, opens late that year
year 12
demolition of space mountain. work begins on indiana jones adventure
year 13
phase 2 of storybookland begins construction.(the rescuers ride, splash mountain)
year 14
works on water area in discoveryland and pizza planet begins
year 15
phase 2 of storybookland opens.
year 16
indiana jones opens. pizza planet and water area opens in discoveryland
year 17
phase 3 of storybook begins construction(shops, water park, story ride)
year 19
phase 4 begins construction(philarmagic, matterhorn)
year 21
phase 4 opens, all works finished.
these works add an extra 24 attractions, making this already at least 2 day park into a 3 day park, and adding to capacity of the park.
please tell me what you think
next up, the rest of the resort
I especially love the return of Discovery Mountain. It was quite clever to get the Disneyland Railroad to go through it. The only problem is that, because of where you placed it, we can't fulfil the imagineers' initial plans for it to be next to videopolis and have a tunnel between theme.
Also, I like the idea of having a second island. I'm not sure if Tom would appeal to Europeans as much, though, so I think it should be re-imagined. :)
The Jungle Cruise is a nice idea, but I think it would be too small. Don't forget that in other Disney Parks, it takes up most of Adventureland. We're quite lucky to have a different Adventureland that's so much bigger. :)
I'm not so sure about the Storybook land. I think it would make more sense to have it as part of Fantasyland.
By the way, imagineers did have plans to put Splash Mountain in Frontierland where the train station is, so you could revise your plans and put it there. :)
But these are really great ideas!
Thanks, why did he imagine tunnels from hyperion
There were a few articles about it on Disney and More. I'll get it... :)
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hmm...
i'm not sure how accurate that artwork is, but it kind of makes discoveryland look small. one thing i like about discoveryland is that it is still quite open plan despite a huge metal mountain in the middle
Quote from: "Meph"Also, I like the idea of having a second island. I'm not sure if Tom would appeal to Europeans as much, though, so I think it should be re-imagined. :)
if you compare the size of tom sawyer islands from the american parks to the space here, it proves that there is alot of wasted space in dlp.
also about jungle cruise. i'm going to look at sizes for it at the other parks and try and work it out using that. do you know if they own all the land between dlp and the studios?
Yep. They own it all. ;) Would those backstage buildings be in the way, or do you think you'd be able to snake around them?
i'll have to have a longer look, but one thing that may have to be done is to relocate the backstage area
ok, so i don't think many backstage buildings will need to go, but a couple will be moved
working on final designs, more is to follow
i've finished version 2, please tell me what you think
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you can tell already there are some changes, and now most of the work is actually outside of the railway tracks. first its to a new land, critter country.
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this actually also shows the moving of the train station just further up, to help with moving people through to the expansion. the chapparal theatre now has a more fitting show, something abut cowboys. tarzan moves to the new theatre on the path leading into the adventureland expansion.
in critter country, i'll go clockwise from the far left. first is splash mountain, then a restaurant, a ride like goofys barnstormer, a dinner show, and a couple of cafes and a toilet block.
moving onto adventureland expansion:
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this area is kind of set in the jungle. i found out that they use this area of water as kind of drainage, but it isn't needed, and it doesn't exist at other disney parks so i'm 90% certain it can be scrapped.
the entrance to the expansion is where the staff member entrance is. what would happen is that a crossing would be set up, so when a train is approaching, barriers come down to stop people crossing.
on this path is the tarzan theatre, and indiana jones adventure. when you reach the expansion the ride directly infront is the "submarine adventure" ride, its basically the same idea as the submarine ride at disneyland, but with an amazonian style theme. to your right is a themed dumbo style ride, and a few carnival games. then is the main attraction, jungle cruise. this travels underneath the train, where a bridge will be made, and i think will be the biggest of any of them. what is important to remember is that our adventureland is close to double the adventurland at disneyland, so the whole idea of jungle cruise taking up most of adventurland would probably make it a 20 minute ride.
next up is fantasyland, and this comes in many parts. first up is as you enter to the right of the castle.
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so here i decided would be the beauty of the beast dark ride. you would enter through large gates, and a layer of fog is spread on the floor. the queue area would be like going through dark corridors, with sharp u turns to add to the tension. as you enter the ride, you would turn a corner and the vehicle would go up a spiral track to the first floor. all the time, you hear the back story of how he became the beast, and then you enter the village with people in the streets, then you enter a dark forest with flashing lights, and an animatronic of belle's father looking up at the castle, from this point on it follows the standard idea of other dark rides, but when you reach the fight scene where the villagers attack, and the beast gets pushed down the roof, you enter a room, where you see an animatronic gaston, whos arms come out towards the guest, just before a short little drop in the track. this is like a slower, less sudden version of the drop in thirteen at alton towers.
when on the ground floor, you see the transformation of the beast, and enter the station. this is one of the darker rides, and because of the drop, you have to be of good health and be at least 1 metre.
next up is the station area:
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so this shows better how things would work. both entrance and exit to the station are to the right, and the left is for winnie the pooh. this ride is more of a powered coaster, and there is a section where pooh holds onto a balloon and flies upwards, and the track goes up and outside, you can see it on the plan. then you enter the building again and branches appear in front, and poohs balloon pops, so you go back down.
now into upper fantasyland, and this is in two parts.
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nothing really changes here, but the dark ride at the back is for an animation, but i haven't got a clue. next to it is the storybook water gardens, the water park, and opposite are small cafes and shops.
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in this half of the expansion is mickey's philarmagic and the matterhorn bobsleds.
one thing as well. in mainstreet there is the entrance to a new theatre to be put up behind the buildings, which will show the broadway kind of show thing that is at tokyo disneysea
what do you think?
just remembered one more thing, there is a new pre show for the temple of peril, with harrison ford telling you what you are doing there and stuff, just before you go over the temple thing to board the ride
loving it ...
so when are you going to tell the lovely people at DLP that you are going to take over and do all this cool stuff then ?
:D
Quote from: "torillien"loving it ...
so when are you going to tell the lovely people at DLP that you are going to take over and do all this cool stuff then ?
:D
:lol: i wish, to be honest, all that needs happening is for walt disney imagineering to be given more power, and to get a biggger say in what happens
As usual, I love the ideas! :D
thanks meph, saw your disneyland london :lol:
i'm making a plan for extensions to disney village, and was wondering what people would like to see. leave a post if anything comes into mind
It would be good to have something other than a shop or a restaurant as well. Maybe a museum dedicated to Walt?
interesting, gonna look at that
Which parts don't you understand, and I'll try to help
Quote from: "peter"Which parts don't you understand, and I'll try to help
I think he's/she's a spammer...
Quote from: "luke85"Quote from: "peter"Which parts don't you understand, and I'll try to help
I think he's/she's a spammer...
He's not. Every post that he's made
has been on topic. :) It's just that he's posting a spam link on each post.
That's what I thought, but is he posting the spam, or has someone hi-jacked his posts?
Am I right in thinking that the reason the fireworks aren't more often is because of how close the park is to the town behind it. What about the display happening further across?
I think it's just a money saving measure. The fireworks aren't too loud, so that's not the problem. :)
ok, going to start designing soon
ok, so i've finished phase 1 of the disney village, this is a really big area.
first up is the current disney village. the area stays the same, except that the current disney store is split into two shops. on one side is a large information and reservation centre. the other shop sells disney games, with several available to play. the currently unused hurricanes night club is turned into upstairs seating for rainforest cafe.
now for phase 1:
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most of the road is pedestrianised. i've shown the world of disney next to the village. at the top corner would be two coffee shops, and the black lines are new, permanent security buildings. one is themed for the studios, annd one for dlp. the pink area is a new station building for the train station, with a large glass front. on the waterfront are restaurants, one is a steakhouse set on a large steamboat. the convention centres are linked together and then to a new hotel, which would be used for the centre users mainly, but some suites will be for normal guests. these rooms will all face the waterfront.
on the path are two large shops, and a dinner show. there will also be a cafe with dancing on a raised platform. the shop next to it is a car hire place, so that people can drive to paris or other nearby destinations.
next is phase 2:
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the first area is the restaurant district. these would be different cuisines, and some major chefs restaurants. in the middle of the square is a stage for nightime entertainment. the shop opposite is the car hire. then there is the ticket centre, where several tickets can be bought, the normal, day tickets, but these would be a maximum of one park a day, and then multi-park tickets(can go to both parks each day), and 'ultimate' tickets, which give entry to both parks, entry to the fantasmic show(more later), a ride in the hot air balloon, entry to the cirque du soleil show, entry onto the walt disney story, and to the waterpark(both later). tickets for individual attractions are also available.
next to the centre is the walt disney story. this is an omnimover following walt disney. entry without an 'ultimate' ticket is 5 euros. beyond this is "D street". these shops are all designing shops. there is a mickey and minnie style build a bear, a shop where you can design t shirts, a design your own toy car shop, plus other branded stores. this continues over the stream. the whole street is covered by a glass roof, and projections are displayed onto it. also above is a walkway connecting the new hotel to a viewing area and bar that overlook the fantasmic arena. as you leave D street, ahead is a shop selling souvenirs for fantasmic and cirque du soleil. opposite this is a large lego store, with areas to play with the lego.
opposite the hotel, which has a covered pool, is a fountain pond, and food and drink carts spread throughout. at the end is a bus depot, where the shuttle buses travel to the parks, hotels, and also a direct shuttle bus to val d'europe, where a new mini depot is placed.
to the left is the large waterpark. it has themed areas, a little mermaid area with many interactive features, a pirate cove, with a large pirate ship, and wave machines, and a bahamas area with large slides. inside is a bahamas themed cafe, and adults are given an electronic wristband, which is used to charge guests when taking a drink, they then pay as they leave. next door is the several thousand seater cirque du soleil theatre. next to this is fantasmic. there is a restaurant looking onto this for dining packages, and the large amphitheatre can seat many thousandths.
what do you think. i'll make a timeline soon.
timeline time
so i'll do it in the normal year 1, year 2 style
year 1
in low season, the new security booths are put in, construction on the nearby coffee shops begins
year 2
the tunnel between the conference centres is coffee shop opens. construction begins on the centre hotel.
year 3
new station building construction. lakeside restaurants begin construction.
year 4
restaurants and hotel open, advertised when conference centre is booked.
year 5
pedestrianising begins. two large shops begin construction
year 6
paths finished, and dinner show and cafe begin construction. shops open
year 7
cafe and dinner show open, and the car hire is built and opens by december.
a break between phase 1 and 2 will take place for 5 years, until money spent is made back.
year 12
construction on restaurant district begins, as does work on 'D street'
year 13
restaurant district opens, and work continues on D street.
year 14
d street opens. hotel construction begins.
year 16
hotel opens, and the bus depot opens. all attractions except waterpark and the two shows open. construction on these begins
year 19
waterpark, theatre and fantasmic open, and work on the hotel bar for fantasmic begins.
year 20
bar and viewing area open. shuttle bus to val d'europe starts
so, what do you think? leave comments, thanks
i'm thinking of maybe moving onto doing the resort hotels. i would probably start with the ones in the plans above. what do people think?