i don`t know any details exept articles below:
(in french) http://dlrp.fr/actu_greve_disney_809.html (http://dlrp.fr/actu_greve_disney_809.html) "Les équipes de maintenance de Disney en grève pour les salaires"
(and in english on) http://forum.mousekingdom.com/dcboard.p ... full&page= (http://forum.mousekingdom.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=77081&mode=full&page=)
Uh Oh, I hope this doesn't mean the Parks are going to get messy. Do they have back up staff for this sort of thing? Or Maybe Cinderella needs to get her broom out, and give Mickey a duster or two.
Quote from: "DisneyBud"Maybe Cinderella needs to get her broom out, and give Mickey a duster or two.
That would be cool to see Cinderella or Mickey with brooms and so on maintaining the park ;)
Brooms from Fantasia = Win.
:lol: The cleaners should totally be given brooms with arms on them...
i hope this doesnt mean the rides wont be maintained so well? DLRP really doesnt need some more accidents from poorly maintained rides. :(
Quote from: "Masamune"The cleaners should totally be given brooms with arms on them...
That would be awsome :) brooms with arms like those in the Studios :)
Quote from: "anthony2k6"DLRP really doesnt need some more accidents from poorly maintained rides. :(
some more? I mean I have never heard of an accident in Disneyland Paris? Where there really any?
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15th -17th October 2006 HNY
- closed rides
- no parades
- more under the link: http://forum.mousekingdom.com/dcboard.p ... full&page= (http://forum.mousekingdom.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=77124&mode=full&page=)
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I'm sorry, but I simply do not feel that striking is correct, after all I work in a theme park and we accept simply the wages are not that good, reason why we are working at a theme park. Why Cast working in DLRP seem to believe they have so mucgh money are just stupid, the resort cannot afford to pay them anymore, keep refurbishments going and so on. Really if they want better pay they should go looking for work elsewhere, I know I am thinking of working at Disney and I do not expect to be getting paid anymore than just above minimum wage, which I suspect is what they are paying. Stopping parades is just petty and useless, do they not want people top return, do they want to see DLRP go back to the awful days of Rasulo's era? Personally the maintanence staff and other staff on strike just get back to work or I believe the resort should just hand them their notice for wasting their time.
I believe that the staff on strike are just selfish,one shouldn't expect excellent wages in a theme park.Hospitality is a major part of the job,going on strike doesn't work in favour of this and spoils the fun for the visitors. :x
I have the same view on the case!!!
They are just destroying the resort from inside :(
If I worked in DLRP I wouldn`t expect more than minimum wage...
I`m from Poland were wages are really differentiated... some get minimym some earn a lot... nevertheless for the past two years I believe Disney comes to Poland to find workers for DLRP e.i dancers, characters etc. I even met a Polish girl working at the reception in Hotel Cheyenne...
Those people go there mainly for summer holiday season... and many of them are really happy about the wages even though they are not happy about the prices of food, house rent price and so on...
So maybe for French people the wages are minimum but I can admitt that dancers and characters at least can be easily replaced by foreigners - I know they are not on strike but no one is irreplaceable...
*Nods* It is pretty selfish...they really should go work somewhere else if they want better pay...
Quote from: "Masamune"*Nods* It is pretty selfish...they really should go work somewhere else if they want better pay...
I don`t want to argue if they are paid well or not... maybe they should be paid more because for me it seems that they usualy work pretty hard to keep everything safe... but the way they show their attitude to the wages is irresponsible - no one gains (maybe they will gain at the end) and everyone loose: people - closed rides, no parade etc.; park itself - again rides, bad publicity etc.; maintance - they are going to be seen as those who forced management to close the rides and so on so on...
BTW does anyone know what people staying in Disney Hotels (those who booked packages) feel about this situation cause I would be furious... I`m going in October and I hope that situation will calm down and the rides would be open again
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This makes me angry :evil:
Why block a parade and ruin the experience for guests? The guests pay all that money to go to DLRP and get this. They must be shocked. It's just so childish for the staff to do that.
I hope it all calms down very soon :x
It's getting worse... from Monday on, waiters in the restaurants won't work during the morning (breakfast disaster no doubt!). Evening shift will (for the moment) go on like usual.
God damn it, what is DLRP turing into, a big mess by any chance wish the staff would give up, they can't afford it and god damn it how much I hope this is sorted by the start of the Halloween Season, it will look so bad for the park in a season that is always brought in with fun and if there was no parade and stuff it would be a disaster, I know if I was not an AP holder I probably would cancel my trip planned for late October if it is not sorted.
The good news: today (Saturday) there was a parade.
Boycott will continue (in full force) from Monday on.
At least that's something, I guess. But still if I was a paying guest at this time I would be shocked and horrified. I know I probably wouldn't, but i guess a lot of customers are asking for refunds? and maybe even getting them??? This way DLRP is dipping out on even more money. It isn't fair to the company or the guests, they should just shove off or go and do their protest in one of the surrounding fields where they won't affect anyone.
Quote from: "DisneyBud"i guess a lot of customers are asking for refunds? and maybe even getting them???
If nothing is sorted out I don`t know if there is any reason for me to go to DLRP... maybe the one that I booked and paid my flight tickets :/
Nevertheless what is the chance to get all the money back? I mean in booking conditions it says you have to cancel your booking 30 days before coming to DLRP to get a full refund... is strike in anyway changing the situation?
Quote from: "Matts"Quote from: "Masamune"*Nods* It is pretty selfish...they really should go work somewhere else if they want better pay...
I don`t want to argue if they are paid well or not... maybe they should be paid more because for me it seems that they usualy work pretty hard to keep everything safe... but the way they show their attitude to the wages is irresponsible - no one gains (maybe they will gain at the end) and everyone loose: people - closed rides, no parade etc.; park itself - again rides, bad publicity etc.; maintance - they are going to be seen as those who forced management to close the rides and so on so on...
BTW does anyone know what people staying in Disney Hotels (those who booked packages) feel about this situation cause I would be furious... I`m going in October and I hope that situation will calm down and the rides would be open again
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Oh yeah, I'm sure they work hard when they're actually working...but clearly, these aren't the sort of people who wanted to work at Disney because they love Disney...for example, I only applied for a job at The Disney Store last year because I love Disney, not because of what I'd be getting paid...
If these people truely loved Disney, they would carry on doing their jobs and try to find some other way of getting their pay rise...
That's exactly the reason why most of them are French. The Dutch/Belgium cast members that I know are all still working.
If you work for Disney, you should do it because you want to, and not because you can't find an other job.
However, I do think that every cast members should get a wage that can support them. The lowest wages (maintenance, attraction operators, waiters,...) should go up a bit.
1) I think the same - you should love disney and disney magic to work for disney
2) If those are only French who strike, they do it in so uncivilized way (yeah yeah I know - UNIONS)
3) Waiters usualy get tips... I mean in Blue Lagoon for sure and in Disneyland Hotel and HNY at least... so it`s not so bad for them I guess
4) As to others I really don`t know... I don`t know the wages... I don`t know if any talks were done about it... so I can only say what I think as a guest of the resort
from dlp.info
>The Union CFDT has announced on its website, that it plans further events and actions to push its requests ahead, but if the past days are any indicators guests will either not all or or only at a minimal level be inconvenienced by this<
Quotefrom dlp.info
>The Union CFDT has announced on its website, that it plans further events and actions to push its requests ahead, but if the past days are any indicators guests will either not all or or only at a minimal level be inconvenienced by this<
I'm so sorry...but I don't understand what this means because I don't know the meanings of a few words...Could anybody descibe it in "easy english"
Quote from: "swity"Quotefrom dlp.info
>The Union CFDT has announced on its website, that it plans further events and actions to push its requests ahead, but if the past days are any indicators guests will either not all or or only at a minimal level be inconvenienced by this<
I'm so sorry...but I don't understand what this means because I don't know the meanings of a few words...Could anybody descibe it in "easy english"
Even though I know all the words in Union CFDT statement I needed few moments to understand it ;-) so:
1) Unions plan more actions so they get wages raise
2) Summing up the past strike days, you as a guest, will not at all feel the strike (inconvenience - closed rides, no parade etc.) or at a minimal level
If more explaination is needed feel free to ask :-)
Quote from: "Matts"Even though I know all the words in Union CFDT statement I needed few moments to understand it ;-) so:
1) Unions plan more actions so they get wages raise
2) Summing up the past strike days, you as a guest, will not at all feel the strike (inconvenience - closed rides, no parade etc.) or at a minimal level
If more explaination is needed feel free to ask :-)
Thank you Matts, know I understand what this means.
I hope they will find a way where both sides can be happy....I mean somehow I really understand both sides.....Life in Paris is so expensive and I think that their jobs aren't always so easy....But of course I unterstand that Disney has not so much money....becuase of all the new attractions they are building and so on...
^ This isn't limited to just DLP or WDS. This is a Disney problem worldwide. I used to work as an Attractions cast member at Disneyland here in California, and only got paid about $7.60 USD an hour to do so. Conversely, people working at fast food joints or at the local Starbucks were getting paid $10-11 an hour USD to work their jobs.
Disneyland California has had a staffing and turnover problem for a long time because they don't want to pay their hourly workers what they're worth. Disneyworld isn't any better either. I think the only resort that probably pays their workers properly is Tokyo, and that's simply because the parks are run by the Oriental Land Company and not Disney Co.
I do agree that you work at a Disney park because you want to experience what it's like, but you should also be paid a decent to above-average wage to do so, considering what is expected of you as a cast member. I loved my job and didn't mind getting paid what I did because I experienced working at a place I've always dreamed of working at. The only way I'd ever go back now, though, is as a manager or a corporate employee. At least I can say I worked for Disneyland, though. :)
I have just returned from another fantastic holiday at DLRP. On one of the days, Tuesday 12 Sept 06, there was a strike. Strangely when we arrived at the gate we were told that we didn't need a ticket and we were just let in. I am not fluent in French and so could not read the banners, does anyone know why we were just let in, Disney must have lost a lot of entrance revenue? As far as the Park was concerned some of the restaurants and shops did not open until approximately 1130am other than that we didn't notice any difference.
I`ve got few questions:
1) Was there a parade?
2) Were any attractions closed?
3) Were you a hotel guest (with a package booked) and you didn`t have to show the entrance ticket? Did you ask for refund? Or did you just come for a day? - I`m asking because I wouldn`t like to have a entrance ticket (booked with my package) which becomes useless because I enter for free so I paid for "nothing"?
Matts,
The answers to your questions are as follows:
1. No in fact the parade was cancelled but no explnantion given.
2. No all the attractions were open.
3. I was a Hotel Guest so I suppose I did pay for a day which i didn't
need, but I enjoyed a day in the park so I didn't really miss out.
Hello,
Just been to the park for 3 days (partly on business), over Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday;
A regular guest, or in fact anyone visiting the park could experience a perfectly normal Disney Day.
Everything opened on time, and without problems. Except CP30 on Star Tours - but I think that may not even be connected to the strike.
The parades went ahead every day at their usual time.
And there was no sign at all of any strikers, no banners or anything.
If the strikes are indeed ongoing, my support for these workers has much increased - now that they have taking their focus away from the actual parks. Last week the only thing they were doing was ruining the parks for the visitors and that certainly wasn't acceptable - and I am very suprised they were left to get away with it.
they've finally realised the sensible way to protest so as not to affect the paying cutomers!! At least they aren't being so inconsiderate, kind of makes me feel more sympathetic to them.
Quote from: "Angel"Matts,
The answers to your questions are as follows:
1. No in fact the parade was cancelled but no explnantion given.
I only hope that during my stay the Halloween Parade wont be cacelled
Quote from: "Angel"2. No all the attractions were open.
yupi :-)
Quote from: "Angel"3. I was a Hotel Guest so I suppose I did pay for a day which i didn't
need, but I enjoyed a day in the park so I didn't really miss out.
I`m going to be Hotel Guest too so I hope I will have a wonderful day as you had so I will also miss that I paid for the ticket... if I get free entrance ofcourse ;-)
Thinking about it.... when you're on holiday at DLRP, you can go anywhere you like, if you fancy a hot dog at Caseys, you can go there and have one, you can go into the Disney Village and have a steak or some bratwurst at Ludwigs, when you get tired, you can go back to your hotel, if you really really dont want Goofy's autograph for the *'th time, you don't have to have it...BUT!!...imagine if you worked there (and I love disney as much as the rest of you). We must have all seen the characters being pushed and pulled by ill mannered kids and personally, I doubt if I could smile the whole way through an 8hr shift. Disney is great because because we have no responsibilities, we get to do the dream thing, (quote from a disney cast member in August 2006...Me: "can I ask you how much you get paid or even if it's a good wage?" - cast member: "let's just say I'm here to learn the language and for the experience"). I think most of the people that come into this forum would like to at least for a little while try working at DLRP but I think the shine would soon wear off.
It's a magical world for us that holiday there, lets keep it that way :D - pay the cast members what they're worth ;)
The castmembers might not always have a great time,but they know this before they sign the contract.Every job has its ups and downs.personally I have to work under great pressure at times ,the trick is to deal with this pressure.
Being a castmember can be hard at times,I have seen this at several occasions,some kids can be quite rude.Once one knows how to handle these kids the job will be easier ,I believe that it's something that can be achieved by a good relationship between the Disney management and the castmembers,the former can support the latter.
Hi
Before today I thought that now everything will be allright but after reading http://dlrp.fr/actulargepresse.php?id=148 (http://dlrp.fr/actulargepresse.php?id=148) and especialy the sentence:
"Si la direction n'abonde pas dans notre sens de manière significative, nous continuerons à nous mobiliser de plus en plus, à des moments clés du parc, comme Halloween", conclut M. Rovedo (délégué syndical de la CFDT)
Making it simple it means that if nothing changes they will strike more and more in very important, for the Park, moments for example: Halloween
It doesn`t sound good :cry:
Oh dear, why can they not sack these people they are not doing their jobs and are striking more than a certain South West English train company, I mean really do DLRP need these people, they can be replaced and if they go and interrupt my Halloween they won't be greeted by happiness from the likes of me. :evil:
Away with the baddies, they've had their fun now, ruined it for enough guests. Why can't they stay and be satisfied or leave. I'm sure if they were that bothered they could leave and find a better paid job. Everyone knows that working there may not be the best paid work, but it's more for the experience I'm sure, or at least thats the reason I want to work there next year.
I was in a good mood until I read that. Now I'm mad :evil: They'd better not ruin Haloween.....
They could use them for their Halloween decorations by putting a fence around them with a sign saying "Please don't feed the monsters!" :lol:
._. If they ruin my first Halloween visit, I swear to God they'll feel my wrath... >_>; or my mum's, which is much more scary because she gets annoyed really easily...
I'm visiting the resort next week so with all this strike stuff being discussed I am getting concerned. So I expressed my concerns in an email to Disneyland Paris and this is what they had to say.
QuoteDear Mr Cecil,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding Disneyland Resort Paris.
There is no confirmation of a strike at this moment but management is constantly monitoring the situation and is taking all necessary measures in order to insure that this movement has a minimum impact on the visit with us.
We look forward to welcoming you at Disneyland Resort Paris.
Best regards,
Sabina
DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS
So I'm confused. Are staff striking or not? :-s
hmm, not sure but couldn't it be that they try to hide it? lt's Disney, they won't want any problems out in the open if they can help it. And maybe they just don't want guests to be alarmed because if they are they can cancel their trip.
(did that make any sense???)
The message is quite vague, but I think what they're trying to say is that even if there is a strike (which sounds less likely at the moment), it shouldn't affect your trip much (if at all).
But I agree, this maintenance strike is hard to follow. Personally, I haven't got a clue what's going on... 8)
Hello everyone I'm back from my magical summer in dlrp! Was amazing as usual! I worked through the strikes and it was awful! No1 in the parade/character department (apart from some costuming people and cosmetology/make-up people) went on strike! The strikers never stopped us from doing the parades, they just wanted to walk in front of it, management decided to not put it out for obvious reasons. 4 days there were no parades, when we finally did the parade without floats it was amazing! Every guest apart from a few were really into it, cheering and enjoying the fact they got to see a parade. As for the strikers we took great pleasure in cheering when we arrived back from the parade as they had no clue that we'd done the parade (a few moles within parade were providing them with information before). And they recieved nothing from the strike, and I'm glad as the way they went about striking, intimidating characters especially Mickey was awful. One of my friends got hurt when they all stormed our department to try and get us all to go on strike with them! After that it all returned back to normal, though rumor has it they're planning on doing it again in halloween to try and ruin it, we'll just have to see!! Phew long post! Glad to be back on here!
Quote from: "Fluffy"QuoteDear Mr Cecil,
Thank you for your e-mail regarding Disneyland Resort Paris.
There is no confirmation of a strike at this moment but management is constantly monitoring the situation and is taking all necessary measures in order to insure that this movement has a minimum impact on the visit with us.
We look forward to welcoming you at Disneyland Resort Paris.
Best regards,
Sabina
DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS
So I’m confused. Are staff striking or not? :-s
I think they are not officialy on strike right now but... but they might go on strike during Halloween... I hope it wont happen during my stay :-(
babybert, that sounds really awful!!
._. OMG, what's wrong with these people? Seriously, they need to just grow up, suck it in and get on with their bloody jobs...trying to ruin it for visitors is one thing, but trying to ruin it for the non-striking workers is terrible!
I'll be...so...SO annoyed...if they try and wreck Halloween for everyone...and I know for a fact that my mum would never pay for us to go to Disneyland again if she encountered such crap on this trip...