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Title: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: jwagner on July 24, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
when i saw the lighthouse at my last visit i was really shocked.
don't know how you think about this, but i think that it need a refurb even more than the pirate ship.
the only thing i asked myself is : "WHY???".... it can't be such expensive

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i hope you can see it....in reality it looks much worse than in the picture :(
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: claire2281 on July 25, 2010, 10:35:27 AM
Depends what needs doing to it and how it is fixed I suppose. If the park has limited budget for repairs (and with the economic climate like it is, it wouldn't surprise me) then I can see what they'd concentrate on Captain Hook's ship before this.
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: pussinboots on July 25, 2010, 12:35:55 PM
It's true, I was a little sad to see it in that state as well... Note the saggy, melting "wood" in the clapboard.

Didn't I read that they were refurbishing the outside of the Newport Bay Club, though? (Which needs work just as desperately, the only difference is you don't tend to see it up close like you do the lighthouse.)
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 25, 2010, 12:54:29 PM
How much time/money would a few cans of Dulux White Emulsion, some paintbrushes and a sponge cost ?
Laziness  :roll:
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: pussinboots on July 25, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"How much time/money would a few cans of Dulux White Emulsion, some paintbrushes and a sponge cost ?
Laziness  :roll:

Ah, the internal dialogue of a dodgy builder, haha.

I'm no expert, but I'd venture to say they're looking at some serious replacement work. For a large part of the hotel... Unless they can sort of nail and glue all that vinyl siding back into submission.
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: RiverRogue on July 25, 2010, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"How much time/money would a few cans of Dulux White Emulsion, some paintbrushes and a sponge cost ?
Laziness  :roll:

Well, apart from the fact that the lighthouse needs more than that, it's easy enough to look at this isolated case and say "what on earth does it take?"

But it's not an isolated case. Did you ever walk across the resort, say, from one end to the other, and realize the sheer amount of items, surfaces, materials, machinery etc., all needing frequent care? Not all of which are visible to guests, either.

I've seen long, long lists of items needing repair or maintenance work, some urgently, but DLP's maintenance crews can't take care of everything at once, as Claire already wrote above.

So, don't worry... DLP does notice those things and takes care of them, too. It just takes time, all due to the resort's size and complexity, and to the fact that we don't have TDR's financial situation...
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: claire2281 on July 25, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"How much time/money would a few cans of Dulux White Emulsion, some paintbrushes and a sponge cost ?
Laziness  :roll:

It clearly needs more than a quick paint and clean down. You've also got to figure labour costs into whatever you do.
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 25, 2010, 06:20:54 PM
Yeah I understand. But it's not a large, complex machine with lots of mechanical parts that are used constantly. Its a large stagnant wooden structure. Send 2 guys over with some paint and a few new planks of wood, shouldn't take more than a day or two. Job done  :thumbs:  8)
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: RiverRogue on July 25, 2010, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Yeah I understand. But it's not a large, complex machine with lots of mechanical parts that are used constantly. Its a large stagnant wooden structure. Send 2 guys over with some paint and a few new planks of wood, shouldn't take more than a day or two. Job done  :thumbs:  8)

Of course, you'll have to put up scaffolding. And I suspect that they'll have to replace all the planks rather than just a few as otherwise you'll have to be back in a few days and start over.

In any case, I don't think you got my point. Very roughly, what I've tried to explain was that those two guys you want to send over there are already busy rebuilding the Molly Brown from the ground up... And they may have a lot of other things to do before they get to the item "Lighthouse" on their list.

I'm oversimplifying obviously, you can't really discuss a company of 15.000 employees in those terms, but the point remains. There's a LOT to do in the resort, the lighthouse will be taken care of when its refurbishment is scheduled.
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: Mrs Potatohead on July 29, 2010, 03:24:16 PM
Ive just got back yesterday from DLRP and we stayed at NPB and it was something i noticed straightaway due to the fact you now have to walk past it because of the closure of the other path of the lake from the hotel, its pretty bad and they should have done it before they closed the other path knowing that it would become the major walking route to the Disney Village and Parks.I wanted to take a nice picture of it aswell! there is also a section of massive scaffolding right in the middle of the path outside sequoia lodge, not sure what they are doing there but kind of spoils it a little. really hope they eventually get round to doing all these referbs!!!
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: The Helmsman on July 29, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Yeah I understand. But it's not a large, complex machine with lots of mechanical parts that are used constantly. Its a large stagnant wooden structure. Send 2 guys over with some paint and a few new planks of wood, shouldn't take more than a day or two. Job done  :thumbs:  8)


In which world is this possible  :-s ?
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: EmilieK on July 29, 2010, 10:10:41 PM
In a small companys world. That is probably how person 1 would do it, person 2 on the other hand who actualy is a building engineer and manages people for a living would schedule it in somewhere acording to priority and send it out to the respective managers. On one side person 1 would probably get it done faster with his/her way but other things would suffer in the long run.

See the big picture here?
Title: Re: new port bay club's lighthouse needs refurb
Post by: Martyn on August 02, 2010, 12:47:57 PM
Yeah the whole Hotel needs a refurb.

It looks nice from a distance, but when you get up close, its all grotty and rotten.