Disneytheque rumours that a rehab for Pirates is on its way for 2007 and will include Audio-Animatronics of Jack Sparrow and other characters from the Pirates movies.
It will not be a massive rehab like in California of Florida, just adding an Animatronic of Jack somewhere in the ride.
Well that doesn't sound too bad, though I'm totally against movies coming to rides to be honest that are already built years before the movie hit the box office. I just hope he doesn't replace an animatronic in the attraction and is just added not put instead of a different one.
I was hoping our attraction would remain faithful to the original concept, but if it's just going to be one or two extra animatronics, then I don't have a problem at all. I like the way they're saying the movie characters will feature *alongside* the original characters in the American versions (kinda like an extra sub-plot), and it will of course be excellent for the attraction's popularity. Not that it needs anything to make it more popular, but at least having these new figures will stop non-Disney fans coming off the ride thinking "where was Jack Sparrow?!", increasing guest satisfaction I guess.
I'm surprised it's rumoured for 2007, I would have thought they might keep it and use it for their 2009 attraction, but then if it really is just a couple of new animatronics, the 2007 date makes sense.
If all the rumours for the 15th Anniversary are true, this is going to be amazing for DLRP! :o
I just hope that the new audio-animatronic will really look like Johnny Depp/Jack Sparrow! :D
:o If they're making a Johnny Depp one they better do an Orlando Bloom one too! :P
Quote from: "Masamune":o If they're making a Johnny Depp one they better do an Orlando Bloom one too! :P
Don't you think that would be a bit too easy for Disney Imagineering? This guy only has two face expressions! :twisted:
( :arrow: runs and hides :wink: )
QuoteDon't you think that would be a bit too easy for Disney Imagineering? This guy only has to face expressions!
*booh's at Experiment627* :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "experiment627"Quote from: "Masamune":o If they're making a Johnny Depp one they better do an Orlando Bloom one too! :P
Don't you think that would be a bit too easy for Disney Imagineering? This guy only has to face expressions! :twisted:
( :arrow: runs and hides :wink: )
:P Both of which are adorable, so quit hatin' and give Orlie some luffins!
:lol: Yay, fangirl language...
Quote from: "experiment627"Don't you think that would be a bit too easy for Disney Imagineering? This guy only has two face expressions! :twisted:
Hahaha! Absolutely true!
Captain Jack, on the other hand, is going to be *really* hard to pull off if they try to properly capture all of Depp's movements and expressions.
Quote from: "Baloo"Captain Jack, on the other hand, is going to be *really* hard to pull off if they try to properly capture all of Depp's movements and expressions.
I guess it'll be really hard to tell if the AA is working or if it is having a really bad malfunction (you know, like all those killer robots from those really cheesy sci-fi movies) :wink:
QuoteI guess it'll be really hard to tell if the AA is working or if it is having a really bad malfunction (you know, like all those killer robots from those really cheesy sci-fi movies)
Oh, you're talking about Pirates in Disney World... Or Revenge of the Mummy at WDW :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is there any official word on whether one of the movie villains will be included in the DLR/WDW (or even DLRP) Pirates revamp?
I heard it was Davy Jones (from Dead Man's Chest), but I'm not sure... Barbossa would probably fit into the ride better.
I actually think having a villain would make the storyline of the ride a bit odd. The pirates are meant to attack the fort and then become skeletons in the caves (ie. they're pretty much the bad guys, albeit funny bad guys). If they introduce a villain into the story, who's the bad guy going to be? :?
The pirates attack the fort, because they want to free their mateys which are helt in prison (one of the first scenes).
The skeletons at the end scene are just death pirates, they have nothing to do with the movie version.
(Can you tell I read Pirates of the Caribbean: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies??? :lol: )
Quote from: "raptor1982"The pirates attack the fort, because they want to free their mateys which are helt in prison (one of the first scenes).
The skeletons at the end scene are just death pirates, they have nothing to do with the movie version.
Ah, so the pirates at the end aren't necessarily the ones who attacked the fort then?
I guess they could put Jack Sparrow/Will Turner in the attack scenes and then Barbossa in the caves. Hopefully not as a replacement for the current pirate on top of the treasure pile though... I'm making up my own rumours now... :lol:
Bumping this back on topic...
Did anyone (Kinou) heard more about this project? According to my little blue bird nothing has been planned for POTC next year!
and your blue bird has not been wrong yet!
With the length of the rehab next year already released, I cant see it happening at all. State side they closed the attraction for a long while to add the new animatrontics. Shame though, would of been fantastic for the 15th and realease of the 3rd movie.
But you never know, could be a nice end to the 15th celebrations in 2008?
I would love to see some new additions to the POTC but it might be a good idea to leave it for another year with the 15th Anniversary coming up and the new attractions connected with this.Too much in 2007 might lead to some disappointment in 2008. :wink:
There may not be any new animatronics arriving in the near future but at least the films have made their way into the ride in the on-ride photos:
Quote02 September 2006
Summon the Kraken!
Disneyland Park in Paris might not have Jack Sparrow animatronics or an eerie Davy Jones projection, but the blockbuster film franchise has finally been introduced to the park's Pirates of the Caribbean in its own small way.
"Baptist the Pirate!" reports on Disney Central Plaza forum that the artwork surrounding the attraction's on-ride photo has now been updated with a new design (featured below) featuring a few not-so-subtle nods to the second movie. These include the mighty Kraken, the key to the Dead Man's Chest, a hint of Cannibal Island and a pirate captain bearing a strong (but not completely accurate) resemblance to Jack Sparrow himself.
The previous photo artwork (featured below) was far less colourful, using mainly shades of blue on an image of a rough sea. This artwork was introduced in April 2004, when the attraction's on-ride camera was moved to the second main flume, between the Burning Village and Dead Man's Caves. When first introduced in early 2002, the camera was located in one of the eye sockets of the skull in the rockface of the first Dead Man's Caves scene, producing some fairly un-animated photos of guests gently sailing by.
http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2006/09/ ... -photo.jpg (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2006/09/images/02-pirates-photo.jpg) http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2006/09/ ... to-old.jpg (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2006/09/images/02-pirates-photo-old.jpg)
As penfold12 mentioned in another topic, Tokyo Disneyland has just announced it will be adding Jack Sparrow, Captain Barbossa and the fogscreen Davy Jones to its Pirates of Caribbean this summer.
So that just leaves Paris...
If I were a betting guy, I'd bet on a full Jack Sparrow invasion of Adventureland come 2008/09, including rethemeing Adventure Isle with some of the touches currently going into DLR's Tom Sawyer. I'm not sure if that's something I'd actually want, but you have to admit the pieces fit together well...
Patmagic wrote: "Erm those fighting pirates are NOT new, they have been in place since 1992 and also I have never noticed them being dressed differently. They were not made to be like captain jack or will turner. Also some more useless info when they were made they were the most complex animatronic ever made ."
The audio animatronic your refering to is the auctioneer. In 1992 he was the most advanced animatronic in all the parks, thats why his movements are so much more fluid than any others on the attraction.
I was refering to the final two figures, sword fighting right before the final dropm, with a blonde woman watching them with a hankie to her mouth. I have photos takne from one of my first visits, and their apperance has been altered. Not the animatronic itself, just the hair and clothing. They look like bad fancy dress versions of Will Turner and Captain Jack.
Quote from: "penfold12"The audio animatronic your refering to is the auctioneer. In 1992 he was the most advanced animatronic in all the parks, thats why his movements are so much more fluid than any others on the attraction.
Are you sure? I'm pretty confident that the swordfighters were the most advanced animatronic in the park. Wasn't the auctioneer behind the Timekeeper and the Phantom as well?
But back on topic, I really think this is an awful idea. Am I the only one who thinks that Pirates was a pretty bad film made alrightish by two good actors (and no, I'm not referring to Orlando and Kiera :wink: )? The second film was just terrible though- in the original Jack's humour came from his witty interaction with other characters, so why did he spend the whole film doing slapstick bits? Orlando Bloom's acting was somehow even worse and the villain was nothing more than a special effect. Most of all it was SOOOO boring, really no fun at all. When everyone's sick of the films by the fourth or fifth sequels then Disney will regret what they've done. And if they do up Adventure Isle then I really will lose faith in them.
Mind you, I doubt this will happen at Paris. The (already limited) budget it would use wouldn't be made up by the small increase in guests it would bring. It wouldn't be worth blowing a marketing campaign on either, as they've already learned from Mission 2 that revamps don't sell.
I don't like this at all, puting real life people (I know it's captain Jack, but people will still see Johny Depp) into an attraction, making it more about the celebrity than about the adventure and the magic
I hope everybody will remember that the ride was there before the movie!
I stand corrected Lordofthemightybeast.
Could of sworn I read that it was the auctioneer, but im no doubt wrong. :lol:
Quote from: "penfold12"I stand corrected Lordofthemightybeast.
Could of sworn I read that it was the auctioneer, but im no doubt wrong. :lol:
The auctioneer i'm sure was in the original potc all those years ago in 1967 :wink: , if you are talking about the scene with we want the red head, cannot remember it's french translation :wink: .
Well in the USA people are very pleased with the rehab but it's not entirely new it's just expanding the experience. But if it is gonna happen in 2008 or 2009 i would be very happy with that :wink:
Quote from: "suzie"I don't like this at all, puting real life people (I know it's captain Jack, but people will still see Johny Depp) into an attraction, making it more about the celebrity than about the adventure and the magic.
Actually, the PotC attractions are STILL about the adventure and the magic. Always have been, always will be, no matter what.
In response to this article (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2007/03/ ... or-me.html (http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2007/03/yo-ho-yo-ho-anywhere-but-paris-for-me.html)), the incarnations of the Pirates attractions that already feature the film characters are still faithful to the original versions. Even if the Paris version were to get those additions, it'll still be faithful to the original, no matter what. Too bad a can't leave a comment on that article saying all this.
I wish that people would stop getting themselves in knots about all this stuff.
Dagobert posted:
Dlp.info reported that the pirates of the caribbean will be updated in may. So captain jack sparrow will enter dlp.
http://www.dlp.info/Guide/News-And-Rumo ... nr=469#469 (http://www.dlp.info/Guide/News-And-Rumours/Current-News-and-Rumours.asp?newsnr=469#469)
The article:
Quote from: "DLP.info"Since Disneyland Anaheim and the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World updated their versions of the Pirates of the Caribbean rides in time for the premiere of the second installment of the movie franchise rumors were out, that the other two Disney parks featuring versions of the ride may follow suit. Soon enough Tokyo Disneyland confirmed that it would update it's ride to introduce Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow from the movies and new special effects. Only Paris seemed to be left out - afterall the numerous projects for 2007 and early 2008 as part of the 15th anniversary were announced but there was no mentioning of any changes for Pirates.
But the latest (just released) issue of "envie+", the official magazine for Annual Passport holders ( available online (//http://www.disneylandparis.com/fr/passeport_annuel/pdf/enviedeplus_13.zip)) now confirms that as early as MAY (so next month) DLP's Pirates of the Caribbean will premiere an update in connection with the big screen debut of the new movie "Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End"!! Alas, the magazine does provide only spare details mentioning better sound, new special effects and characters directly inspired by the movie.
Based on this information and the overlays seen in the US parks guests should expect to hear a new soundtrack incorporating themes from the successful score of the movie series, Audio-Animatronics of Jack Sparrow (featuring Johnny Depp's face) and new special effects. But what and where exactly - well there are only rumors. But a recent ride-through seemed to confirm that at least preparations had already been made. A necessity as no major closure of the ride is announced for May so far.
When approaching the firs chain-lift, still in the tranquil waters after the ship-wreck and the Blue Lagoon Restaurant, guests used to be able to see directly to the entrance leading into the fort, to the lift as well as onto the shores where fireflys seemed to move around between the lush plants. But now several dark rocks have been added to the right of the boats, blocking the view of the shores and the entrance of the fort. Also the lower half of the lift hill is now really dark, in fact so dark that the themeing and the heavy chain moving on the right is totally invisible. While the purpose of these changes is not confirmed, it could be speculated that a water curtain might be installed onto which a short movie of Davy Jones might be projected - as in the updated version in the US-parks.
The Envie de + text in english:
"Whilst you wait for May, come and re-discover the attraction 'Pirates of the Caribbean' at Disneyland Park in its revised version: better sound, new special effects and more characters, directly inspired by the film... And of course, meet Jack Sparrow in front of the attraction 'Pirates of the Caribbean'."I never even noticed this in there, but it looks like DCP have been discussing it weeks... (without any confirmation so far)
Just got confirmation in. It is true (although we wouldn't doubt Enviede+). The make-over will include Jack Sparrow animatronics.
So now it's official, what do you think?
I'm looking forward to it, the fact that it has already been done in America means that they can improve it and put the best version in Paris (I hope!) :D
Quote from: "raptor1982"Just got confirmation in. It is true (although we wouldn't doubt Enviede+). The make-over will include Jack Sparrow animatronics.
Wow, seriously?! Do you know when this will happen?
I'm actually quite excited... and very very shocked. Did they make too many Jack AA's at WDI or something? Just
where are DLRP getting their money from?!
According to our source, the makeover would start in May already!!
There shouldn't be much work however, the whole attraction got an extended refurb last year.
Blimey... I think I'm speechless.
This must have been a very last-minute decision then, right? I heard rumours of the European POTC3 premiere being at DLRP... imagine if they inaugurated the "new" version of the attraction with that, for the 15th too.
So we kinda have 5 new attractions this year... (if they can count Indy Backwards and SM:M2 as such huge new attractions, this can count! lol)
Indiana Jones is going to be backwards again???
Quote from: "swity"Indiana Jones is going to be backwards again???
No - that was just irony... When they introduced indiana backwards, they announced it as being a "NEW attraction" whereas it was only a revamp of ourse.
Same with SM:M2, so ll Baloo was saying that if THAT counted for a new attraction, then a redo of the pirates definitely would, and I agree one hundred percent :) :) :)
Looking forward to it indeed :)
:oops: Sorry....That was to much for my bad english to understand that this is irony...but thanks for the explanation
i'm gonna reserve judgment until i have actually seen the additions. i'm not quite sure what to think as of yet. hopefully will be a great revamp for a great ride. have to wait and see.
charlotte x
This is fantastic! On another level, is this also an indicator that the parks are doing well financialy I wonder?
Quote from: "Baloo"Quote from: "raptor1982"The pirates attack the fort, because they want to free their mateys which are helt in prison (one of the first scenes).
The skeletons at the end scene are just death pirates, they have nothing to do with the movie version.
Ah, so the pirates at the end aren't necessarily the ones who attacked the fort then?
I guess they could put Jack Sparrow/Will Turner in the attack scenes and then Barbossa in the caves. Hopefully not as a replacement for the current pirate on top of the treasure pile though... I'm making up my own rumours now... :lol:
The Skeleton pirates do sort of have something to do with the movie as they made the movie from the ride!
Quote from: "kurgly_bird"i'm gonna reserve judgment until i have actually seen the additions. i'm not quite sure what to think as of yet. hopefully will be a great revamp for a great ride. have to wait and see.
charlotte x
I agree with you Charlotte, but consider this...
Even if they don't add many special stuff, the least that we can expect is that everything that was already in there will be restored, and that's what makes me happy :)
I was there last week, and yet again the swinging pirate wasn't working. There wasn't even music when you were going up the chainlift, so yes, even if it doesn't bring what we expect (personally, I don't see why we haveto have statues of actual actors in there - don't we have madame tussaud's for that?), it will at least restore the ride to its original glory :) :) :)
Quote from: "swity":oops: Sorry....That was to much for my bad english to understand that this is irony...but thanks for the explanation
No need to apologise - I'm no native English speaker myself, so we all make mistakes/misread stuff ;) Even the English do, I'm sure :) (And they can't understand German or Dutch ;) )
Not looking forward to it at all... In my mind it would ruin the ride... The ride came before the film, and I dunno, it just seems to spoil it really... But I guess when/if I get to see I may have my mind changed..
If they announce that its being closed when I go next month I'll be absoloutly gutted....
Hmm... I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But only if they change the later scenes of the ride and keep their hands off the Blue Lagoon, the waterfall ascent and the assault of the fortress, they're as close to imagineering perfection as Pirates is going to get. And if those rumours are true that they're going to incorporate the Hans Zimmer score into the ride... :evil:
Quote from: "Lordofthemightybeasts"And if those rumours are true that they're going to incorporate the Hans Zimmer score into the ride... :evil:
Ouch - I missed that bit... I love the score myself, but not on the ride, plus it gets quite boring if you put the CD in your car ;)
So I hope they won't put that music in the ride indeed :)
The film's soundtrack is quite weird in the ride at WDW. Especially at the Wicked Wench scene, they used the main "tatata" theme, but a very slow version, making the scene look soooo boring. :?
The other thing to remember is that we are all big Disney fans. There are still many people who visit a Disney park for the first time, and only associate with the film. On going on the ride a large portion of people are no doubt slighlty let down/confused. Im not saying they are right, I love the ride, always have, but to some people it may need updating
Never thought of it like that.... :-k
Quote from: "penfold12"The other thing to remember is that we are all big Disney fans. There are still many people who visit a Disney park for the first time, and only associate with the film. On going on the ride a large portion of people are no doubt slighlty let down/confused. Im not saying they are right, I love the ride, always have, but to some people it may need updating
Yeah, you're right. I think there might be 3 things which made DLRP suddenly do this:
1) Guests asking at City Hall or wherever "why isn't Jack in the ride?!"
2) Jay Rasulo and/or Buena Vista Intl showing DLRP the effect the changes had on the US versions and convincing them
3) Tokyo are getting the AAs, so if DLRP get them sooner rather than later it'll be cheaper, as well as cashing in on the 3rd film
OR they've known about this for months but kept it as a crazy surprise! :lol:
Does anyone know yet exactly what changes we are getting? From memory, I understand that DLR's update was far more extensive than WDW's. Wonder if the same situation will happen again between us and the cash rich TDL?!
Either way, after seein the Jack Sparrow AA on Utube, im all for it to be honest. Even more so the projection on the hill. Hey, imagine if we got the rummoured Will Turner and Elizabeth Swan AA's too!
Personally I'm really looking forward to this update. I think its fantastic news. I've seen the revamped Orlando version of the ride, and although their ride is quite pale compared to ours, I was quite impressed by the new animatronics. Jack Sparrow and Barbossa were the best animatronics I've ever seen. And the best part of the story is, at least as far as I can judge, the enhancements add to the experience, they don't ruin it. I am often sceptical about changes, but when done in a right way it doesn't matter. Disneyland is not a museum. The changes at Pirates seem to be quality changes, nothing like Space Mountain: Mission 2.
Besides that, it would be weird to keep the 1992 version. I mean, since the movies, "Pirates of the Caribbean" is a worldwide brand. When people go on the ride, they simply expect to see at least Jack Sparrow because he is such a popular and remarkable character. The public wants to see him, so Disney would be stupid if they didn't make money out of this. Ofcourse, just like many of you I am against commercialising Pirates, but like I said, when Sparrow is added in a right way, I dont mind. Remember that they only add a few animatronics, not much else will change. Its still the same attraction.
When you think about it, Jack Sparrow, Captain Barbossa and even Davy Jones are now all part of the Pirates of the Caribbean universe, if you like it or not. Although they weren't originally there, they were introduced to the public and the public embraced them. When you can choose between a bland stereotype pirate captain at the Wicked Wench and an elaborate Captain Barbossa on the Wicked Wench, which one would you choose? People who have seen the movies will recognise him, for others the animatronics will still be as unrecognisable as before.
Here are some pics;
(//http://blogs.families.com/media/barbossa.jpg)
(//http://www.filmedge.net/POTC2/graphix/JackBarrel.jpg)
(//http://www.filmedge.net/POTC2/graphix/JackHiding.jpg)
If you would like to see the enhanced version of Orlando, please take a look at //http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzPus1Iuga0. The Anaheim version seems to be better I read somewhere. By the way, if you listen closely to the music in the background, you can hear the movie soundtrack (during the Barbossa part of the clip).
I was just thinking, is it smart to open this upgraded version now? I mean, with all those new attraction this year, wouldnt it be smarter to spread it a bit more over the years? On the other hand, with "At Worlds End" on the way, its now time to make some money. :wink:
Whilst I'm very excited about this (and can't believe it's all going to happen so quickly!), my main problem is that the Jack Sparrow animatronic looks so real whereas some of the older ones...well, not so much. I remember watching the YouTube video when the changes first took place and Jack just looked a little out of place.
Can't wait to see it though!
Quote from: "fray101"Whilst I'm very excited about this (and can't believe it's all going to happen so quickly!), my main problem is that the Jack Sparrow animatronic looks so real whereas some of the older ones...well, not so much. I remember watching the YouTube video when the changes first took place and Jack just looked a little out of place.
Can't wait to see it though!
i agree with you, also im still confused with the scene with barbossa it isnt from 1 or 2 so is it from 3?
raptor are you sure of your sources, all mine say there will be no Jack in the ride this year... :cry:
I hope they do do an update as one of my partners favourite rides ( 4 times in on eday last year ) i would love something different to look at :D
Quote from: "Kinou"raptor are you sure of your sources, all mine say there will be no Jack in the ride this year... :cry:
Well our source was sure, but I'm having my doubts now as well... :?
Don´t worry! We will see it after May :lol: That´s so soon!
Raptor, why are you having doubts now?? I was getting so excited by the idea!
I have been on both the Walt Disney World version and the Disneyland version of the new Pirates. The DL version is way better overall- including sound effects, etc- , but the last Sparrow figure is better in Florida. Can't wait to see Paris' version!
So, do we know if this is happening for sure? Just reading the last few posts Im no longer clear if it is :shock:
Can anyone confirm the update, I was sooooooooo looking forward to seeing something different, I ve already been told i am going on this everyday we are there at least once ( we are going for 5 days this year :D ) My reckoning is that my ride count will be in double figures for POTC this year. I think I will get my own back and insist for every time we go on POTC we go on SMM2 :D
I agree does anyone have any concrete information of if and when this will happen ?
I'd love to know ready for our holiday this year
Thanks for any help anyone can provide. :D
Any cast members out there know anything ? :?
Mr_B
Quote from: "Masamune":o If they're making a Johnny Depp one they better do an Orlando Bloom one too! :P
I'm with you all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
:tink:
Has it been confirmed that the upgrades are actualy happening yet?
A week further into May and still no news?
Quote from: "penfold12"A week further into May and still no news?
I also would like to know more now. Will we get this Pirates update or not? :?
Still no news??
Nope. I don't know what Disney are up to lately, but I've heard practically nothing about At World's End either. There's zero UK or European premiere and the Disneyland world premiere last night I've heard nothing about... I can hardly believe the film is released next week it's so quiet, let alone imagine DLRP adding animatronics to their attraction. :?
I think it has been confirmed a few weeks ago by Disney that there will be no update from the film in POTC. There was an error in the article from "Envie de Plus" the magazine of the Annual Passport.
that's a shame.
And yeah POTC 3 hasn't really been hyped up much really
I dunno how I feel about putting the movie characters into the ride.
I mean, the films are awesome and the actors in it are great. But I don't want disney to turn the ride into a boat-ride version of madame tussauds. I think the odd figure here and there would be excellent, and when I was there last year the captain Jack Sparrow showed up in the rather large queue line. But, we'll have to wait and see.
After all, they didn't bring haunted mansion holiday over to paris, so maybe pirates will stay as it is.
dlrp-mad :mickey2:
I really hope there will be no update. I do like the movies, but the characters just don't belong into the ride. This may sound mean, but there probably are enough people already just going on PotC because they think Johnny Depp is sexy and I don't want any more of them. Disneyland and the ride is just not about Jack Sparrow.
its now or never coz im sure they wont want to close it over summer period
Nicholas-c, If you've scrolled up half way the page, you would have read this:
QuoteI think it has been confirmed a few weeks ago by Disney that there will be no update from the film in POTC. There was an error in the article from "Envie de Plus" the magazine of the Annual Passport.
oh, my mistake i heard else where they were going to update ?
I think that they should add Davy Jones to the POTC photolocation, it would be so cool. Now I think about it, they could also add some other characters like Barbossa, Will and Elizabeth, it would certainly add a bit of variety to it :wink:
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