mouetto on Disney Central Plaza reports that Disneyland Resort Paris will have it's name changed back to Disneyland Paris.
The word 'resort' has already started disappearing from logos:
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Personally I'm quite pleased with this change. It's always easier just to say Disneyland Paris. :D
so that means we will have to start saying DLP :D
It's a nice change.
Is this official do we have to stop using DLRP. :(
If so change Dlrp Magic's name quickly :D
I'm too used to calling it Dlrp!
I like it too! From when on will this be official?
I am so used to dlrp I guess it will take its time until I will have dlp put back in my mind :D
Much less of a mouthful, good change IMO!
Although some people I know still haven't stopped calling it Euro Disney! :roll:
First of all... ANOTHER name change?
Second of all... Wow, the 1995 logo has returned.
It is saner... I remember after it became "Disneyland Resort Paris," you would be lynched by angry fanboys and fangirls for saying "Disneyland Paris." Which seems to me like forcing people to refer to a Coke as a Coca-Cola brand carbonated soft drink.
However, I do hope it will officially remain Disneyland Resort Paris, in the same way that Walt Disney World is officially the Walt Disney World Resort? It does make sense in certain situations...
feel sorry for everyone who has a fansite and has DLRP in the domain like
dlrpmagic.com
dlrpblog.com
although dlpmagic and dlpblog doesn't quite have the same ring to it :lol:
so is this official?
EDIT:
The logo doesn't look right:
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So is it a mock-up? look at the balloon and notice it is a block red colour with out the 'light' like in the current MMP logo.
It could be that it was created to show us what is will look like but I hope it isn't the 'official' logo :lol:
But then if they change the name how will we differentiate between the whole resort and the Disneyland park?
Quote from: "never2old"But then if they change the name how will we differentiate between the whole resort and the Disneyland park?
perhaps:
Disneyland Paris: DLP
Disneyland Park: DP
you will just have to say Disneyland Park if your refering to the park
I wouldn't have any problems with a name change, but I prefer the Disneyland Resort Paris name. It provides a better distinction between the whole resort and the Disneyland Park.
I think that most people still call DLRP just Disneyland Paris.
In response to all those posts about the abbreviations, on this thread as well as the French one:
You know, you don't have to abbreviate anything. You could just spell out the entire name.
Typing out Disneyland Resort Paris takes ages though. :P
I prefer Disneyland Resort Paris to Disneyland Paris. It just feels right to me.
However, people a bit older than me will also say that Euro Disney feels right to them.
Well, typing out the full name just got a little easier...
But why do we/they have to pick one anyway?
"Disneyland Resort Paris" feels like an official, descriptive name that should be used in the appropriate contexts, with "Disneyland Paris" as a snappier, less formal alternative. Rather like that "Coca-Cola® brand carbonated soft drink" I mentioned earlier, or "Walt Disney World" and "the Walt Disney World Resort."
Quote from: "pussinboots"However, I do hope it will officially remain Disneyland Resort Paris, in the same way that Walt Disney World is officially the Walt Disney World Resort? It does make sense in certain situations...
Officially
Walt Disney World Resort in Florida, yet they're perfectly fine with saying "Walt Disney World". I completely agree, DLRP (did you not know we only use these abbreviations to annoy you?) should definitely keep the full official logo as Disneyland Resort Paris. If anything, their recent need to make the "Paris" as big as possible just shows how bad their logos and advertising have been.
They should stick with Disneyland Resort Paris but incorporate the Eiffel Tower into the logo, like that logo used on merchandise a few years ago. It actually looked rather smart indeed, and would be instantly recognisable, even when the logo is shrunk down. It also looks way less corporate.
The logo is official, by the way (or "BTW"... LOL), but full Resort Paris ones are still available.
DLRP is imprinted on my brain anyway, which is easier than typing Disneyland Resort Paris anytime.. :lol: :D
Quote from: "Anthony"They should stick with Disneyland Resort Paris but incorporate the Eiffel Tower into the logo, like that logo used on merchandise a few years ago. It actually looked rather smart indeed, and would be instantly recognisable, even when the logo is shrunk down. It also looks way less corporate.
Do you mean something like this:
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its a limited edition pin I have that incorporates the eiffel tower
you see something like that would be nice!
pic is from pinpics btw (by the way :p) :lol:
Quote from: "Anthony"Officially Walt Disney World Resort in Florida, yet they're perfectly fine with saying "Walt Disney World". I completely agree, DLRP (did you not know we only use these abbreviations to annoy you?) should definitely keep the full official logo as Disneyland Resort Paris. If anything, their recent need to make the "Paris" as big as possible just shows how bad their logos and advertising have been.
They should stick with Disneyland Resort Paris but incorporate the Eiffel Tower into the logo, like that logo used on merchandise a few years ago. It actually looked rather smart indeed, and would be instantly recognisable, even when the logo is shrunk down. It also looks way less corporate.
The logo is official, by the way (or "BTW"... LOL), but full Resort Paris ones are still available.
I do apologize... I didn't mean to sound like I have a stick up my rear. I just thought the answer to the whole
"how will we differentiate between DLP and DLP now?!" crisis was a trifle obvious, haha. Abbreviate away...
Is there a chance this name change isn't as drastic as we think it is, but that this is just a new logo for UK advertising and other situations in which clarity and brevity are preferable?
And I liked that Eiffel Tower logo too, although it seems unlike Disney to link itself so prominently to something that isn't theirs and will generate no money for them. They've never made any attempt to emphasize Disneyland's proximity to Los Angeles, for example — although admittedly that city doesn't come with the best icon potential. A gang sign? A gun? A traffic jam? A diseased lung? A breast implant? All very hard to work into a logo.
Quote from: "Magicalmouse125"It's a nice change.
Is this official do we have to stop using DLRP. :(
If so change Dlrp Magic's name quickly :D
I'm too used to calling it Dlrp!
Never fear, I still call refuse to call it anything apart from Eurodisney. And I've posted before: Starbursts will always br Opal Fruits, Snickers will always be a Marathon, and Kristof will always be referred to as Raptor :)
I think they should keep the "resort" in the name. Today, 2009, there aren´t many people who realised that there are 2 parks, many hotels, an entertainment district, a shopping and outlet centre.....If you don´t keep the resort they are again at the point of 2001 without a second gate. The chances that someone gets this 2parks hotel entertainment thing is then again much smaller. They should rething their advertising if the people don´t get it and not create again a new name and a new logo. Keep the things a bit stable. please.
the more I think about it, the more I find that the name should stay...
Quote from: "Riebi"They should rething their advertising if the people don´t get it and not create again a new name and a new logo. Keep the things a bit stable. please.
Before you know it, our beloved park will be called
" The Magical Wonderful European Disneyland and Walt Disney Studios Resort Paris " or some other permutation :wink:
I am SO used to calling it DLRP . But i sometimes call it Disneyland Paris
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "Riebi"They should rething their advertising if the people don´t get it and not create again a new name and a new logo. Keep the things a bit stable. please.
Before you know it, our beloved park will be called
" The Magical Wonderful European Disneyland and Walt Disney Studios Resort Paris " or some other permutation :wink:
Then we will have to call it :
TMWEDWDSRP, talk about a mouthfull :D
I confess I still call it Eurodisney...
i never say the Resort when i speak about Disneyland paris, but always liked the Resort in promotion, merchandising etc. I think it looks good this way.
Quote from: "15yearsofMagic2008"Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "Riebi"They should rething their advertising if the people don´t get it and not create again a new name and a new logo. Keep the things a bit stable. please.
Before you know it, our beloved park will be called
" The Magical Wonderful European Disneyland and Walt Disney Studios Resort Paris " or some other permutation :wink:
Then we will have to call it :
TMWEDWDSRP, talk about a mouthfull :D
Yeah, but TMWEDWDSRP would look really cool on a T-Shirt 8)
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "15yearsofMagic2008"[quote="Pete's DragonThey should rething their advertising if the people don´t get it and not create again a new name and a new logo. Keep the things a bit stable. please.
Before you know it, our beloved park will be called
" The Magical Wonderful European Disneyland and Walt Disney Studios Resort Paris " or some other permutation :wink:
Then we will have to call it :
TMWEDWDSRP, talk about a mouthfull :D
Yeah, but TMWEDWDSRP would look really cool on a T-Shirt 8)[/quote]
It could have the shape of a mouse :ears:
Disneyland® Paris is the official "new" name as off Tuesday 14 April 2009. It was changed by dental smile himself, Phillip Gas.
Quote from: "Kristof"Disneyland® Paris is the official "new" name as off Tuesday 14 April 2009. It was changed by dental smile himself, Phillip Gas.
thanks Kristof!
so its official!
will DLP be removing the resort from merchandise / signs etc
Seems like a strange move to go in my opinion, going back to Disneyland Paris, i still think the "resort" looks better. Ah well, best get to work annoying my family to call it by it's "proper name" now :lol:
Also i still call [strike:3qamnhxj]DLRP[/strike:3qamnhxj] DLP Disneyland Paris sometimes, and Euro Disney, and sometimes just Disney or Paris :lol:
I still prefer Disneyland Resort Paris as the official name, although most of the time I call it just Disneyland. In my opinion the resort makes clear that there are two parks, not just one.
Will they change the name again, when Euro Disney SCA gets a new CEO??
What is interesting is that Alton Towers (1 subpar park, 1 indoor water park, 2 hotels and a minigolf course), Blackpool (1 big fun fair and a hotel), and Europa Park (1 park and a few hotels) have all called themselves resorts this year, and now DLP (always prefered EuroDisney myself with EuroDisneyland - get annoyed at Disneyland being used on it's own at DLP, as DL is in California) are taking the resort away. Now if Philip could cut down on the characters too, that would be magic.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"What is interesting is that Alton Towers (1 subpar park, 1 indoor water park, 2 hotels and a minigolf course), Blackpool (1 big fun fair and a hotel), and Europa Park (1 park and a few hotels) have all called themselves resorts this year, and now DLP (always prefered EuroDisney myself with EuroDisneyland - get annoyed at Disneyland being used on it's own at DLP, as DL is in California) are taking the resort away. Now if Philip could cut down on the characters too, that would be magic.
Hasnt Alton been calling itself a resort for a few years now? I thought the new Hotel and the like opened a year or so ago. I think a lot of the british parks are trying to scamble to get resort status as they really need more income (though personally I cant be bothered with most of them: too much thrill and not enough enjoyment, I loved Thorpe Park before they tore down half the park for those dumb coasters)
I normally call the resort Disneyland Paris as its enough for people to get what I'm on about or occasionally lapse into EuroDisney, though as I recall staff at DLP really disliked use of that name. Shame really as the name always reminds me of the big opening ceremony show that was on TV (Complete with Pat Sharp and Matthew Kelly, good times~)
I've always referred to the the resort as Disneyland Paris. Although when I'm in the park, I love seeing remains of when it was called EuroDisneyland, like at the Main Street Railroad Station :)
"Disneyland Paris" does make more sense than "Resort Paris" in the sense that "Resort" is just... a plain word... if you see what I mean. And the fact that every park from Alton to Europa to Flamingoland is tagging on the "Resort" has devalued it quite a bit. "Disneyland" and "Paris" are simple and strong.
Quote from: "Kristof"Disneyland® Paris is the official "new" name as off Tuesday 14 April 2009. It was changed by dental smile himself, Phillip Gas.
Oh, ok then. After they've just spent so much advertising MMP with the name DLRP? After they produced all that merchandise with "Disneyland Resort Paris" on it? After they printed up millions of park maps and programmes to last from now till NOVEMBER with "Disneyland Resort Paris"? After they've designed the new park tickets with "Resort" on them? After they've only just about replaced all their stationary, booking forms, tickets, hotel keys, etc, etc, etc, with the "Resort"? By all means, advertise it as "Disneyland Paris", Mr. Colgate Smile, but don't waste money changing the official title everywhere. How about stopping the parks rotting away instead? No..?
Luckily, any website with that extra "R" will still be justified, so long as they continue with all these friendly ®'s everywhere! Disney Land ® Paris, DLRP.
Phew!
Quote from: "Anthony"Luckily, any website with that extra "R" will still be justified, so long as they continue with all these friendly ®'s everywhere! Disney Land ® Paris, DLRP. Phew!
haha good thinking there!!
our sites are safe then ;) :lol:
QuoteAnd the fact that every park from Alton to Europa to Flamingoland is tagging on the "Resort" has devalued it quite a bit. "Disneyland" and "Paris" are simple and strong.
I do agree with you there the 'resort' tag is catching on a bit
hopefully they will slowly rebrand things slowly
i.e. when they replace the MMP merchandise and when things get worn out!
Hmmm - i just browsed to another topic... and found this one
Quote6. DID YOU KNOW that changing all the sheets and linen in Disney's Hotel Cheyenne would cost the same as running the Tarzan Encounter show for a whole year?
You get what I mean??????? :?
Now that's an interesting move, I wasn't expecting them to do that, but I can see why they would want to. The change doesn't really bother me, even though I have got used to typing DLRP on here, I've always said Disneyland Paris when talking about it, so I'm call with it 8) :wink:
Here's the generic Disneyland Paris logo:
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Isn't it the case that the word 'resort' does not exist in French and so maybe that's why its going?
Quote from: "Kristof"Here's the generic Disneyland Paris logo:
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Major throwback!
Horrible colours on the logos they've released. It looks very flat and out of date compared to other theme park logos. Not magical in the least.
I actually thought the best, simplest logo is the one they've just ditched, particularly its horizontal version:
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(At the end of the banner ad)
Edit...
I know this isn't a design-a-logo topic, but I can't resist. Behind the zelebs at the MMP press event they had a rather nice backdrop with a sketched outline of the castle. It'd work well for the logo, wouldn't it?
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It would even scale well:
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The huge P-A-R-I-S in the 1994 logo is a bit much.
well, it's kind of .... plain?! :?
Ahaaa I've found a very different "single line" version that they've already produced...
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The balloon is a bit small and there's something weird about the squashed "Disneyland" and stretched "PARIS", but I think I prefer this. Reminds me quite a bit of the wonderfully simple and smart Tokyo Disney Resort logo.
So to scrap the balloon and combine this with the castle:
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I could live with scrapping the "Resort" if they came up with a semi-decent logo to make the most of it.
Anyway, it's quite hilarious that they're now on their THIRD set of Mickey's Magical Party logos. Says something about the place...
God, these people cannot make up their minds.
They should just go with the 1994 logo already, in navy blue. Simple, timeless, and even if squashing Gill Sans against its design is a typographical no-no, it's a well-balanced and eye-pleasing design.
You know; this old thing.
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And they don't need a "horizontal version." It's not that vertical anyway! Nor do they need a special version of it with a different party hat for every single event or season.
Why is it that the only way they can produce quality design nowadays is by dusting off really old designs?
Quote from: "kmara"well, it's kind of .... plain?! :?
I have to apologize here; with my statement I didn't mean Anthony's creation (I really like that one with the castle!), I was referring to Kristof's post and meant the new logo!
That's ok kmara, I don't think my idea was popular anyway...
We have our first updated page on the official site, a new language select screen: http://www.disneylandparis.com/?c=0 (http://www.disneylandparis.com/?c=0)
Bit ugly now, isn't it? But better for being separated by language rather than country.
Just to confuse us, the page title remains Disneyland Resort Paris... now is that a sign that Resort might stay in some official way, or have they just made the usual mistake as they do with almost every page?
Every other website, from France to Spain, and including all their press sites, corporate site and business solutions site remain with the "old" name. It must also suck that they bought 12,000 new nametags with "Resort". I wonder if the new park ticket design they only brought in at the start of April will also change...
Quote from: "Anthony"It must also suck that they bought 12,000 new nametags with "Resort". I wonder if the new park ticket design they only brought in at the start of April will also change...
Now this is what really stunned me; it makes the move look like they would have no plan at all; just an out-of-the-blue decision. or there has been lots of misunderstanding in the different sections of the company, or just not enough transparence.
why would such a renowned company make such a blow in the air? I don't think they have too much money, or do they? :? :-k
Today I got an email from DLRP and it doesn't use the DLRP logo anymore, just Disneyland Paris.
So I think they are starting the rebranding.
looks like its getting down slow!
the UK site still shows Disneyland Resort Paris
It better had change, I just spent ages getting rid of the resort out of my sign. :lol:
The name change won't make any difference, everyone over a certain age will still call the resort Euro Disney.
Quote from: "Willow"The name change won't make any difference, everyone over a certain age will still call the resort Euro Disney.
By over a certain age, you mean over 15-20 right :P ? Because I still often call it Euro Disney... :oops:
Hmmm, not too keen on the idea. Resort makes it seem much grander and separate from the world outside.
Plus all my pins say 'Disneyland Resort Paris' on them and i'm a perfectionist. :P
James.
I did read somewhere quite a while back the reason why Disneyland Paris gained the extra 'Resort'. I know it had something to do with the added WDS Park, but I can't remember exactly, but I do know it made real sense. So what is the main reason for taking it back out, other than trying to link it back to Paris, since the current name already states that anyway.. :?: :?
Looking at the historical name changes, it does seem like an illogical reverse of previous years. :roll:
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Every Theme Park is calling itself a resort these days.
Even Flamingoland is a resort.....
Disneyland Paris is 'snappier', says what the place is and where is it. Thats all it needs to do.
Disneyland Resort Paris is longer and you could argue that the added resort doesn't add anything to the message that the name is trying to put across.
Maybe it was originally changed to Disneyland Resort Paris to help market the 2nd gate?
Yes, mainly just to signify that there was much more than 1 day's worth of attractions now. It's interesting though that in 1992 it was strongly worded as "Euro Disney Resort" before even back then the "Resort" seemed to slip away.
As long as they call the park "Disneyland Park", then "Disneyland" itself can be the whole entire resort. Disneyland = theme park resort, no need for the extra word.
The problem Paris has is that it can't really add or drop "Resort" onto the end of its name neatly, like Disneyland Resort, Walt Disney World Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland Resort, etc. Disneyland Paris Resort doesn't seem right for some reason, and you don't want that redundant word clogging up the middle.
Although you might remember that very brief period in late 2001 when all the brochures changed to Disneyland Paris Resort?
Well either way, I personally don't use Disneyland Paris or Disneyland Resort Paris when talking about it, it's always DLRP, it just seems to roll off the tongue, it's also a habit I've got into using now for the last year and a half. Unless I'm talking to someone who hasn't got a clue of what I'm talking about then I'll mention what it is, then I'm back to using DLRP, I don't even use DLP.. :P :mrgreen:
Quote from: "Anthony"Yes, mainly just to signify that there was much more than 1 day's worth of attractions now. It's interesting though that in 1992 it was strongly worded as "Euro Disney Resort" before even back then the "Resort" seemed to slip away.
As long as they call the park "Disneyland Park", then "Disneyland" itself can be the whole entire resort. Disneyland = theme park resort, no need for the extra word.
The problem Paris has is that it can't really add or drop "Resort" onto the end of its name neatly, like Disneyland Resort, Walt Disney World Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland Resort, etc. Disneyland Paris Resort doesn't seem right for some reason, and you don't want that redundant word clogging up the middle.
Although you might remember that very brief period in late 2001 when all the brochures changed to Disneyland Paris Resort?
Yeah yeah... It was just the old Disneyland Paris logo with "Resort" underneath in that same Gill, right? I also think I have a brochure from that time which reads "Disneyland Resort Paris" in that same style.
There have been a LOT of names and logos, that's for freaking sure.
I've noticed they have started showing the MMP advert again here in the UK.
They have dropped the resort from the logo's.
For anyone who isn't mindly obsessed its very difficult to notice.
The website has also changed but the browser title still says Resort.
I quite liked Disneyland Resort Paris.
Just another example of the "new" logo in use:
http://www.disney.co.uk/wdtc/disneyinte ... ay09/dlrp/ (http://www.disney.co.uk/wdtc/disneyinternational/may09/dlrp/)
I like to see the old logo and name again, brings back fond memories from our first two visits.
Actually I never got used to "resort".
How is the gradual removal of "Resort" going?
Here's a weird one: in this email they just sent out, rather than use the new logo they've used the previous one and edited out the word "Resort". I'm sure doing that made sense for some reason or other...
http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c ... 34631dfadf (http://drp-s.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=4a8e2fe834631dfadf)
Unfortunate to feature Eurostar on there today.
Why did they remove the 'resort'? Seems a waste of time and moey to me.
Adding 'resort' to the name in the first place was probably down to some pyschological thing as it sounds more of a holiday destination, where 'Disneyland Paris' just sounds like a theme park.
It was added in 2002 when the Studios opened to signify it was now a 2-park resort.
They've changed it back because "Resort" never translated well and was never spoken. It was just a dud word, diluting the strong brand of "Disneyland Paris". In any case, it's probably not much of a waste of time and money because they're using the same logo as before and aren't actively replacing the old Resort logo anywhere. It'll just disappear gradually as and when things need replacing.
The only thing I don't like about all this is that the two-colour version of the logo they're using now. Example: http://www2.disney.co.uk/wdtc/disneyint ... an2010/40/ (http://www2.disney.co.uk/wdtc/disneyinternational/portfolio/jan2010/40/)
Doesn't it look dated already?
I still think it's odd how the French seem to have the most difficulty with the word when the very word is of French origin. Yes, "ressort" has gone through somewhat of a semantic change since it was borrowed, as explained on the French Wikipedia even...
"Le terme anglais resort (qui correspond au mot français "ressort", avec aux XIIIe-XVIe siècle le sens de rebondir, de se retirer, de s'enfuir, ou celui judiciaire qu'il a conservé aujourd'hui[1].) est un mot d'ancien français passé en langue anglaise au XIVe siècle[2]. En anglais, le mot a le sens du français "recours", avant d'entrer dans des expressions comme places of public resort, "lieu fréquenté par des gens" [...]"
But surely they should instinctively feel the connection to "sortir," meaning to leave. In any case, it's used by so many global hotel chains that they might as well just accept it as a new word, as the rest of Europe has.
Anyway... Yes, it appears to be a very laid-back name change this time.
So the whole resort is now called "Disneyland Paris", right? So "DLP" for short.
And Disneyland is still "Disneyland Park", right? So "DLP" for short.
And the Studios is still called "Walt Disney Studios Park", right? So "WDSP" for short.