Yep, after The Legend of the Lion King is there yet another victim of Mickey's Magical Party...
Despite being announced in all the travel brochures is The Tarzan Encounter being cancelled in favour of the MMP shows. :evil:
Wanna bet they'll move the Hill Billy Trio to The Chaparral Theater? :roll:
Thats not a good move.
Never been to the Tarzan show as I only visit during winter but any more shows being cut is a bad move.
The park needs some sort of theatre/stage show such as Legend of the Lion King and Tarzan Encounter.
How have attendances been? Is it not as popular as it used to be?
jeez that cuts just about all the stage show entertainment we used to watch. What will we do with ourselves l wonder???
The theatre was still quite full l don't understand either decision! Are they going nuts?
Oh no that is terrible news!! It's my favourite show!! :shock: :x :cry:
Hope it's just a temporary thing for MMP, and that it will be back next year [-o<
Those MMP shows better be EXCELLENT to make up for it!!
Oh that is bad news indeed. I know we're not supposed to judge before we see all this stuff with our own eyes, but I really doubt the happy-clappy party shtick is going to be good enough to justify all of this.
Just last year, the park had the best shows of any Disneyland-style park on earth (even according to the Tokyo nuts). I'm not sure it's going to be able to keep that title for very long.
Can someone please get rid of the whole Entertainment division, maybe run the department by marketing, they seem to have more of a clue. This is simply not acceptable, how could they afford to run the 15th shows, halloween shows, christmas shows alongside tarzan or lotlk, or even both and now they cannot? This seems pathetic, I thought the cost cutting days of Rasulo's era were long since gone, maybe I was wrong :evil: .
What's next, Winnie the Pooh as well? :roll: Can they at least use these theatres for these corny mickeys party shows, instead of tearing up dlp?!
Quote from: "Patrick"Can someone please get rid of the whole Entertainment division, maybe run the department by marketing, they seem to have more of a clue. This is simply not acceptable, how could they afford to run the 15th shows, halloween shows, christmas shows alongside tarzan or lotlk, or even both and now they cannot? This seems pathetic, I thought the cost cutting days of Rasulo's era were long since gone, maybe I was wrong :evil: .
What's next, Winnie the Pooh as well? :roll: Can they at least use these theatres for these corny mickeys party shows, instead of tearing up dlp?!
And they make ugly decorations, too.
Maybe this has something to do with the financial crisis? Strange move anyway... Is this a "park rumour" or an "EPC rumour", Kristof?
It's like this: the Party Time with Mickey show in front of the Castle was supposed to be performed 5 times a week. By cancelling Tarzan, they can perform it 7 days a week... :roll:
Yes but but.... it's Tarzan!!! l don't get it. ls Mickey an excuse to maim the resorts entertainment or something?
when you see it like that 7 days is better than 5 as far as total guest satisfaction is concerned, im sure watching the mmp show is more of a guest satisfaction driver than the tarzan encounter, plus they have to keep costs under control, if hotel occupancy wasnt slipping then im sure they could have done both. a wise move in my humble opinion from a business stance.
And it gets better (or worse): "The chapperal theatre" will be demolished in favor of something new (I don't think it'll be splash mountain though) and that's another reason why they are canceling the show.
I wouldn't mind the actual Theatre getting demolished if it was for a new ride.
Rides > Shows.
Quote from: "Jens"And it gets better (or worse): "The chapperal theatre" will be demolished in favor of something new (I don't think it'll be splash mountain though) and that's another reason why they are canceling the show.
Really? Where does that information come from?
Quote from: "Jens"And it gets better (or worse): "The chapperal theatre" will be demolished in favor of something new (I don't think it'll be splash mountain though) and that's another reason why they are canceling the show.
A member of the Themepark.nl Forum (//http://www.themepark.nl) reports this as well. According to this member it's rumoured there has been a presentation about it today.
Aw no, I hope it returns as I didn't get time to see it last Summer when i was there :(
If it's only a temporary thing i can live with that! lol
Quote from: "Remco K."Quote from: "Jens"And it gets better (or worse): "The chapperal theatre" will be demolished in favor of something new (I don't think it'll be splash mountain though) and that's another reason why they are canceling the show.
A member of the Themepark.nl Forum (//http://www.themepark.nl) reports this as well. According to this member it's rumoured there has been a presentation about it today.
I presume this was personally done by Philippe Gas aboard a flying elephant? :wink:
Actually I can completely understand that Tarzan has finished. It was nine years old and probably quite expensive with such a large cast. I'm interested when they decided this though, because if it's a new development that must be a serious lack of decent planning for the year ahead with The Lion King also gone. If they'd have made the decision last year, something smaller connected to MMP could have been placed there. As it stands, that's effectively thousands of extra guests not spending 30+mins in a theatre but out on the streets of the park. Unless that won't matter anyway, with all the fans "boycotting" MMP. Ahum...
It'd be nice if that rumour was true though. Build the planned Fantasyland Theatre and give up on the ridiculously small Videopolis and the Chaparral with its two stupid roof supports that ruin the view for half the audience...
Edit: Do we know if Winnie the Pooh is back? I wouldn't be surprised if that was gone what with him appearing in Playhouse Disney soon...
The Chaparral is indeed not the world's best venue. It is essentially a modest outdoor stage that was partially covered up somewhere in the '90s. Videopolis wasn't up to the task of supporting a show like the Legend of the Lion King either.
But it was better to have two great shows in slightly inadequate theaters than no shows at all.
So this essentially leaves the Chaparral, Videopolis, the Theatre du Chateau and the Fantasy Festival Stage* unused, while the new entertainment roster (all aimed at modestly intelligent five-year-olds by the looks of it) shoehorns itself into places that were never intended for it. Really, excellent news. :?
Perhaps it's time to bring a new blockbuster show to the Studios instead? It seems a better fit, anyway.
*[edit] ...and the Lucky Nugget, come to think of it.
Quote from: "Kristof"Really? Where does that information come from?
It was actually posted on dlrpfans by a CM working at EPC. He said the main reason why they are doing this is money but the second reason is they are getting rid of the theatre to make place for something new.
hmmmm i'm not so sure about them closing tarzan, i enjoyed that show. But no thsi leaves disney land with essentially no shows. they need to do something.
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Bye bye Chapperal Theatre
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According to a member of Themepark (who happens to be a castmember as well) the Chapperal Theatre will be demolished. Tarzan as well as Mickey's winter wonderland will be cancelled. An exact date is not given, but Tarzan should end by the summer. This might be fuel for the rumoured Splash Mountain.
Tarzan should run for this summer, but only in July and August - same time as the fireworks.
The theatre being demolished is being considered, for the placement of a "water-based" attraction but nothing is final yet.
Quotewho happens to be a castmember as we
Sadly, most Cast Members know as much as we do. The demolition of Chapparel Theater is being rumoured as long as there are DLRP fan sites. :lol:
The cancelling of Tarzan in favour of the Stitch Show in Discoveryland (I was wrong earlier saying it was for the Mickey show) to have it perform 7 instead of 5 days a week has been confirmed by the Entertainment Department managers to the marketing and sales teams all over Europe.
Quote from: "Kristof"Quotewho happens to be a castmember as we
Sadly, most Cast Members know as much as we do. The demolition of Chapparel Theater is being rumoured as long as there are DLRP fan sites. :lol:
The cancelling of Tarzan in favour of the Stitch Show in Discoveryland (I was wrong earlier saying it was for the Mickey show) to have it perform 7 instead of 5 days a week has been confirmed by the Entertainment Department managers to the marketing and sales teams all over Europe.
This is strange: I'm not saying your wrong Kristof, but on Monday arieal artists from all over Europe were in the EPC being fitted for Tarzan for this years show? One of my friends who is going to be working with Terk this year asked the managers yesterday and was told the show is still 100% running in July and August.
We will wait and see....
I don't feel good about all these changes in the resort :(
I actually think they should add an extra theatre instead of destroying one :?
tarzan encounter or splash mountain, i know which i would pick, sorry tarzan. all sounds a good plan to me
I don't actually know why everyone is talking about Splash Mountain but I honestly think no one should get too excited about that because the odds seem very small this will actually be executed (according to me)... so don't go too crazy about that rumour just yet :wink:
about Chapperal Theatre being demolished... I doubt if that were true but if it is I won't be blasting with happiness, I can tell you that much!... that the Tarzan show (to me this seems confirmed by Kristof) is being cancelled for this year, is a waste of a good show and I can only hope it will return...
I think I speak for everyone of us when I say, we will always be sad to see a part of DLRP go for something new instead... and sometimes you have to settle with that, change is necessary from time to time... But for the damn stitch show?! :shock: :x oh come on you guys.... Tarzan had been running for 9 years, fine, but if they replace it it might well be with something decent and not temporary! I'm quite afraid that entertainment (and other departments as following) will change the resort from craftsmanship and originality, uniqueness into cheap looking, prefab-resembling attractions and easy-listening, fake-looking shows... it is just too mass-based easy stuff! what I'm saying is we are talking about Disneyland Resort Paris, not Las Vegas here, put some thinking and art into it!
Tarzan was a great show, with a good storyline, great sets, amazing choreography and interactivity... and I'll bet you what we'll get in place will be 'kindergarten goes XL'
As for Chapperal... it just fits into Frontierland like nothing else, looks like it has been there for ages, and just to me, is very very 'quaint', so hands off! :wink:
okay, I'm eating my earlier words now :oops:
We were told today that there is NO tarzan this year! 100% confirmed byt the manager who just yesterday was telling everyone that there is a show - Disney is so professional!
That must be a big hit for performers who intern auditioned for this show and got hired! Maybe that manager also knew that and didn't want to put everyone off so suddenly? But I guess there will be no cuts in staff and those performers will just be moved to parade or other shows?
Some things are slowly coming together to reveal a new big project in Fronteerland even if we don't know exactly what it is yet! But as far as I can work out this project will need the mound of earth that devides WDS Tram Tour and Critter Coral to be removed see Kristof's tram tour photos on WDSFANS.COM see the photo of the boxed off area near Catastrophe Canyon which does not seem to be connected with the Tram Tour in any way.
Maybe I'm reading to much into it but it's very intreging all the same.
Maybe they're saving money on building new tram tour sets by just routing it through Frontierland? :P
These rumours, true or not, are timing well with the 20th Anniversary and the amount of time needed to prepare something big. I'd be stunned if they went with a Frontierland expansion rather than The Little Mermaid in Fantasyland though... don't anyone hold your breath.
Edit: And looking at Google Earth, those fences by the Dinotopia set are a long, long way from the Chaparral really...
IMHO there's far too much backstage infrastructure (including the only access road to costuming and the whole western part of the park) for anything to grow much beyond the berm, let alone towards the tram tour route.
Although the tram tour might be rerouted, potentially even eventually approaching Catastrophe Canyon from the south, I don't think we'll ever see the road that currently runs in parallel go. If the farm and the Tarzan theatre go, maybe the former canoes as well, and perhaps a bit of the berm, incorporating the railroad, there's really a *lot* of space there. And I bet that wasn't coincidence from the start - in worst case, you could even push towards Indy, more than towards the studios...
If there is really something big in the pipe for Frontierland I would rather bet on an updated Version of Marc Davis' Western River Expedition instead of Splash Mountain. Song of the South is something that Europeans don't know or connect to and the Western River Expedition would definately make much more sense to the overall concept of "our" Frontierland.
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/ ... river.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-marc-davis-legendary-western-river.html)
QuoteLet's come back now to Disneyland Paris. Soon after the park opening in 1992, new attractions to increase the park capacity were needed, and as quick as possible. Each land show producer and their team were asked to propose new projects, and here is where the Western River Expedition attraction project makes its comeback.
For Jeff Burke, show producer of DLP's Frontierland, the unique landscape theming of the land was perfect to introduce WRE. You see, at DLP, Frontierland don't have all this greenery you can find in the U.S parks with a Tom Sawyer island at the center of the river. In Paris, we have instead Big Thunder Mountain island in the middle of the Rivers of the far west, and a vegetation coming more from the desert - cactus, etc...than from the banks of the Mississipi river. In two words, Paris Frontierland has a more "dry" vegetation. And when you'll know that Marc Davis WRE had a kind of red "canyon" exterior theming, you will understand why DLP's Frontierland would have been ( and still is ) the perfect Frontierland to build Marc's attraction.
So, back in 1993, the imagineers bring out again Marc's artwork and WRE models and thought that the best place to build the attraction in Frontierland would have been in the land available behind the train station - exactly where rumors since the last 10 years keep saying that the park-is-going-to-build-here-Splash Mountain-anytime-soon. Although it's true that a Splash Mountain attraction was also envisioned by the imagineers at this same location, the first one who almost did it was definitely Western River Expedition.
I believe (though not sure) it has been stated that if Splash Mountain was to ever grace DLRP it would not be keeping its Song of the South theme. It is true that:
1) The theming and story would not fit into DLRP as there is no Critter Country
2) Song of the South, though a brilliant film from my childhood is not widely known here (dispite everyone knowing the song Zip a Dee Doo Dah :o )
If they were to build Splash Mountain in DLRP I hope they come up with a great way to make it not just unique, but as fun and addictive as the original.
Having said that though... How would Splash Mountain into Frontierlands story? :-k
Quote from: "PetiteSirene"Having said that though... How would Splash Mountain into Frontierlands story? :-k
Well just look at the link that netjack posted above:
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/ ... river.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-marc-davis-legendary-western-river.html)
This is how I've imagined a Splash Mountain could look at DLRP for a while now; the same kind of ride system as the others, but the story and animatronics from the concept art in that link replacing the Song of the South. Add to that a new unique song, as catchy and iconic as 'A Pirate's Life for Me' and 'It's a Small World', and we've got another world class, unique DLRP attraction. :wink: :P
If Disney actually made this, I'd be the happiest person on Earth! :mrgreen:
Quote from: "netjack"If there is really something big in the pipe for Frontierland I would rather bet on an updated Version of Marc Davis' Western River Expedition instead of Splash Mountain. Song of the South is something that Europeans don't know or connect to [...]
That, as has been discussed a lot these past few years, is simply not true. While the movie itself is obscure on both sides on the Atlantic, the actual characters in it are better recognized on the European continent than anywhere else on earth due to the long-lasting popularity of Disney's comic books there. Americans don't know the movie
or the characters in it, and yet there's a Splash Mountain on either coast.
And while it's all pointless conjecture, I really doubt that they're going to build Western River Expedition anytime soon — well, Tokyo might throw some loose change at the idea, but certainly not in a park where Disney signs the check. It's too expensive, it's dangerously untried and it involves not one of the Four "P"s of Success: Pixar, Princesses, Pooh and Pirates.
My apologies if this has already been covered somewhere in the forum, but do we not have a potential issue with our (winter) climate and a wet ride?
Quote from: "id@53"My apologies if this has already been covered somewhere in the forum, but do we not have a potential issue with our (winter) climate and a wet ride?
Just as much as in Tokyo. A flume ride could be constructed to prevent you from getting wet.
I've had the same discussions roughly 10 years ago already :)
I still think:
- If a new E-Ticket gets built in the original park, it's going to be Splash Mountain, because guests want a water ride, and there is not a single one in the entire resort
- Although it might be more attractive in the summer, it can be fine-tuned
- I don't think it will be themed to "Song of the South", there's so many easy other options...
Of course, that's just my common sense opinion. Mark my words, though. And then let's talk again in five years or so :)
Quote from: "Quark"I still think:
- If a new E-Ticket gets built in the original park, it's going to be Splash Mountain, because guests want a water ride, and there is not a single one in the entire resort
It's strange all this talk has resurfaced though really - just six months ago it seemed like we were almost certainly about to see The Little Mermaid as the next E-Ticket (well, I say "next" - it'd only the park's second since opening, right?). It's already likely going to both DCA and MK, and to build it in Paris would obviously require much less land movement and exterior theming, etc than a new version of Splash.
I'd prefer a new E-ticket in Frontierland, but I still can't help but think Euro Disney SCA wouldn't, given that popular and people-eating alternative...
That's a very good point. I don't count Mermaid as an E-Ticket - in my opinion that's a D-Ticket, no matter how nice.
So given the choice between Splash Mountain, Indiana Jones, Western River Expedition, that's where I think the answer is clear.
Choosing between Splash Mountain and Little Mermaid is an entirely different ballgame. Given the cost-savings due to it being build elsewhere and the limited impact on the available land, I think it's the most likely choice of future attractions in the main park.
The only reason why this topic resurfaced is because Tarzan was canned. Clearly, again that was a cost-saving exercise in uncertain economic times - it might clear the stage for building works, but I wouldn't even be surprised if they tear it down, put a little meet and greet area on top of it and leave it as is until they're prepared to move forward with Splash Mountain.
Which is what I think the whole thing boils down to - do the feel it's necessary to deploy an E-Ticket now? Personally, I don't think it is - the resort is doing fine for the first time, so why not keep that joker (like Space Mountain) for the really bad times, and save the money for the time being.
I think it's important to give guests the impression that both parks keep evolving and they just HAVE to come back, and I think Mermaid fits that bill nicely. Although building that AND Ratatouille next door might be a few too many dark rides - maybe it's a case of either-or?
Quote from: "Quark"Which is what I think the whole thing boils down to - do the feel it's necessary to deploy an E-Ticket now? Personally, I don't think it is - the resort is doing fine for the first time, so why not keep that joker (like Space Mountain) for the really bad times, and save the money for the time being.
That's a good way to look at it, and a Splash Mountain-type ride would be a considerable joker to play.
The cancellation of Tarzan and end of The Lion King probably gives more legs to the park consolidating its big shows into a single, proper new theatre (like Hong Kong's Fantasyland theatre) than it does to Splash Mountain being built immediately. I'm not sure what level of investment that'd require though.
Quote from: "Anthony"That's a good way to look at it, and a Splash Mountain-type ride would be a considerable joker to play.
The cancellation of Tarzan and end of The Lion King probably gives more legs to the park consolidating its big shows into a single, proper new theatre (like Hong Kong's Fantasyland theatre) than it does to Splash Mountain being built immediately. I'm not sure what level of investment that'd require though.
That new theater really does appear to be Central Plaza.
But isn't the resort doing well for the first time
because of recent investments (Crush, the Tower of Terror and the Once Upon a Dream Parade, mainly)? Surely it is no accident that the "bad times" coincide with the "gap years." The resort did well for the first time when it opened Space Mountain, it did well again when it premiered the above.
How long can they keep this momentum with vacuous offerings like Mickey's Magical Whatsitcalled? Are we looking at another decade of inverted roller coasters and mediocre attendance? Isn't it time to start building something substantial again*?
*And lest we forget, that takes a couple of years.
I think that´s an interesting point. For me they MUST focus on two things: First they must really fast let WDS become a real Disney theme park. We know ToT, Toon Studios and Stitch was a step in the right direction. But it was the first step to do. It´s nice to see that Euro Disney S.C.A. seems to know that too. With the additions in the future it should be a park where you hardly need your day. What they hardly need are also some new real table service restaurants (I don´t want to eat just from carts and self services as an "older" family member. I know how my parents look at me as I said we should change to Disney Village to get their table service food)
The other thing is also important: Don´t forget Disneyland Park!!!! It´s nice to see how much love the seems to have now for WDS. But DLP hasn´t seen a big attraction since years.
The construction of a new real Disneyland attraction should take some years. So they should stop to invest money in some really kool show-stages all over Disneyland Park and use their ressources for a equal (if not better) entertainment with all the assets they have already. I don´t need a 5 times a day show at Central Plaza (Are they thinking people will watch it 5 times a day? the same show???) and a blue alien stage at Discoveryland. I wan´t to have my brass band at Main Street, my cowboy showdown at Frontierland, a nice magical show at the castle stage, african tam tams never at discoveryland but at adventureland and at discoveryland I need a bigger production.
This nonsense construction works is for me the real fault in times of financial crisis (despite they forget again to invite the germans to the magical party and seems to take their marketing again to france, uk, spain).
It´s important for Disneyland Park to get some new attractions. I don´t think the concept of MMP is complete wrong or something but it seems they take their money to the wrong things. I remember very well: the first years of DLP you had something new to watch nearly every year. It was great so see storybookland grown, it was great to see that they built something calling "le temple du péril" behind green fences at adventurland (it was wonderful to take a look at it from adventure isle) and of course it was great to see the construction of space mountain. You must have the feeling that their will be something interesting new for your next visit. Events like MMP could work for a short time. But with all this canceling fever all around and all this horrible construction that are a hard punch for every landscape designer of the parks MMP seems trying to rain on my parade more and more.
The canceling of Tarzan is just one piece of this. I have no longer the feeling I get something special with MMP. I have the feeling they wanna just get me and my money insite the gates. no matter the cost. I hope the future reports will change my mind again a bit but at the moment I ask myself: You will be at Disneyland CA in october, so why souldn´t I miss this event and have a better trip a year later! :(
Quote from: "Riebi"I think that´s an interesting point. For me they MUST focus on two things: First they must really fast let WDS become a real Disney theme park. We know ToT, Toon Studios and Stitch was a step in the right direction. But it was the first step to do. It´s nice to see that Euro Disney S.C.A. seems to know that too. With the additions in the future it should be a park where you hardly need your day. What they hardly need are also some new real table service restaurants (I don´t want to eat just from carts and self services as an "older" family member. I know how my parents look at me as I said we should change to Disney Village to get their table service food)
Oh yes, absolutely. In January one day, the Studios had more people in it than the Disneyland Park. That is excellent progress, but also slightly frightening — they are not in a million years equal parks! How can Disneyland Park-style numbers of guests fit into those ten rides, four restaurants and five shops? If they have actually succeeded in making the Studios a success,
now is the time to make it success-proof.
QuoteThe other thing is also important: Don´t forget Disneyland Park!!!! It´s nice to see how much love the seems to have now for WDS. But DLP hasn´t seen a big attraction since years.
The construction of a new real Disneyland attraction should take some years. So they should stop to invest money in some really kool show-stages all over Disneyland Park and use their ressources for a equal (if not better) entertainment with all the assets they have already. I don´t need a 5 times a day show at Central Plaza (Are they thinking people will watch it 5 times a day? the same show???) and a blue alien stage at Discoveryland. I wan´t to have my brass band at Main Street, my cowboy showdown at Frontierland, a nice magical show at the castle stage, african tam tams never at discoveryland but at adventureland and at discoveryland I need a bigger production.
This nonsense construction works is for me the real fault in times of financial crisis (despite they forget again to invite the germans to the magical party and seems to take their marketing again to france, uk, spain).
It´s important for Disneyland Park to get some new attractions. I don´t think the concept of MMP is complete wrong or something but it seems they take their money to the wrong things. I remember very well: the first years of DLP you had something new to watch nearly every year. It was great so see storybookland grown, it was great to see that they built something calling "le temple du péril" behind green fences at adventurland (it was wonderful to take a look at it from adventure isle) and of course it was great to see the construction of space mountain. You must have the feeling that their will be something interesting new for your next visit. Events like MMP could work for a short time. But with all this canceling fever all around and all this horrible construction that are a hard punch for every landscape designer of the parks MMP seems trying to rain on my parade more and more.
When my parents took me in '94, they were building Space Mountain. One of the main reasons we returned the next year was to ride it. And look at the effect the Tower is having on the Studios — it's basically transformed it. So yes, it works.
But wouldn't a large theater for big productions be a better fit for the Studios? When the Disney-MGM Studios opened, it contained almost nothing but shows. It seems a natural fit.
Good news... Entertainment changed it plans to cancel Tarzan entirely. It will be performed from July 4 - August 30... :) 8)
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! this is probably the best news yet! :D
thank goodness for that decision!
Excellent news indeed!
Phew! Good move DLRP, it's good to hear they've changed their minds :)
:D/ Though I don't think I'll be able to go to DLRP this summer... But at least it's not cancelled. Excellent news indeed. Hope it's back for a longer period next year!
Not good enough as far as I'm concerned. You should be entitled to the same level of entertainment whenever you go.
Quote from: "Handy Andy"Not good enough as far as I'm concerned. You should be entitled to the same level of entertainment whenever you go.
well at least it is back albeit on a limited run :D
Quote from: "casschr05"Quote from: "Handy Andy"Not good enough as far as I'm concerned. You should be entitled to the same level of entertainment whenever you go.
well at least it is back albeit on a limited run :D
I'm just cheesed off because we booked up to go back in September.
Quote from: "Handy Andy"Not good enough as far as I'm concerned. You should be entitled to the same level of entertainment whenever you go.
By that theory, then, they should cancel Halloween (which will be happening in September, mind) and Christmas seasons. I'm going in March, should I be entitled even though I'm paying less?
Quote from: "Agent Lex"Quote from: "Handy Andy"Not good enough as far as I'm concerned. You should be entitled to the same level of entertainment whenever you go.
By that theory, then, they should cancel Halloween (which will be happening in September, mind) and Christmas seasons. I'm going in March, should I be entitled even though I'm paying less?
The cost of a ticket to the park is the same whenever you. It's the cost of the hotel that is less.
Its not economical to have a full entertainment schedule during off-season.
I understand guests pay the same money but the gate receipts will be less during the off-season so Disney's profits for the day will be dramatically lower.
I think the 2 months that Disney will be running Tarzan as sufficient.
Rumour has it that Tarzan is cancelled again...
Guest Flow Teamleaders are confirming this.
Tarzan has indeed been cancelled. A hoedown with Mickey is considered as its replacement.
Would this not clash with It's Party Time over on Central Plaza? :?
Quote from: "Kristof"Tarzan has indeed been cancelled. A hoedown with Mickey is considered as its replacement.
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That is all.
:roll:
I'm sure some people are hoping this eliminates Mickey from Buffalo Bill. Though I doubt it, I can imagine now, at the end of the show...
"And if you want to see more of Mickey lasso-ing cattle, check out Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, for the low low price of 60 Euros!"
dont go tarzan!!!
They should keep it, just in a different location. How about a new theatre between Indiana Jones and Colonel Hatti's?
Quote from: "Kristof"Tarzan has indeed been cancelled. A hoedown with Mickey is considered as its replacement.
But is it cancelled permanently, or is it just this year? Or we don't know yet?
I could understand if they wanted to concentrate on the Mouse this year, but next year?
Has anyone looked inside the theatre recently? I'm guessing the Winter Wonderland set is still in there?
I'd suggest Tarzan is as good as gone, but then 2010 will be incredibly light on entertainment if that's the case, by the time MMP has packed up.
Quote from: "Anthony"Has anyone looked inside the theatre recently? I'm guessing the Winter Wonderland set is still in there?
It was still Winter Wonderland, from what I saw, when I was there mid-March.
Quote from: "Anthony"Has anyone looked inside the theatre recently? I'm guessing the Winter Wonderland set is still in there?
I'd suggest Tarzan is as good as gone, but then 2010 will be incredibly light on entertainment if that's the case, by the time MMP has packed up.
Just to pick up on the 2010 mention, i am watching this very closely, Too early for 20th stuff and surely they wont do MMP again, Quiet dead year with a clean castle ? I hope so, Simple Need Magic Style campaign ?
I'd have thought Toy Story / possibly general Pixar theme next year.
A clever idea for that would be to tie in a Woody's Roundup show at the Chaparral... but probably not.
Quote from: "Nicholas-c"Quote from: "Anthony"Has anyone looked inside the theatre recently? I'm guessing the Winter Wonderland set is still in there?
I'd suggest Tarzan is as good as gone, but then 2010 will be incredibly light on entertainment if that's the case, by the time MMP has packed up.
Just to pick up on the 2010 mention, i am watching this very closely, Too early for 20th stuff and surely they wont do MMP again, Quiet dead year with a clean castle ? I hope so, Simple Need Magic Style campaign ?
There will always be a themed year from now on.
There is a new show coming to The Chaparral this summer: "Goofy's Summer Camp" will been seen as a replacement for Tarzan.
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For people who urge realyl great quality shows, at least we still have Parc Asterix down the road. I think we may head there for a day.
I used to love bragging to our American friends about the excellent Tarzan and Lion King Show we had in DLP, and how it beat most shows in the US parks. That seems to be gone now.
I have decided not to renew my APs this year. I have had one every year for the last 10 years.
At least they are putting some sort of entertainment in the Theatre without it going empty for months!
There isn't an endless pot of money, you know, there must be some sort of entertainment budget and Tarzan will cost too much. Maybe if people take a step back and realise Disney is a business and need to make money they will understand everything happening at the Resrt.
Yep, and just like if my favorite spagetti sauce decided to skimp on the main ingredients and just add garlic to cover it up, as a consumer I would seek out a new sauce.
DLP has record attendance and they are just shoving rubberhead rubbish instead of the two really high quality shows they had.
No one knows what this show will be like so judgement should be held off for now, and tarzan was based on a cartoon film (and it was a good show but I only wanted to see it once)
( and i really didnt like the the lion king it bored me, but i did like the Beauty and the Beast show that was in videopolis )
i like the idea of something different there, and if the show isnt a success then it will get scrapped i suppose.
Was tarzan scrapped on cost grounds, i might have missed that bit.