Yep, you read it right! Mickey Mouse will make guest appearances in Buffalo Bill's Wild West show during Mickey's Magical Party!
According to our friends at the entertainment department will Mickey be introduced at the beginning of the show with Gustave and will make a few appearances during the show as well. A meet 'n' greet area with the rest of the fab 5 dressed in western outfits will be placed in the pre-show area of the show.
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This whole Mickey-year-thing is starting to annoy me...
I can fully understand why Disney would do this.
It might convince people who were not going to visit the show to rethink their decision and visit the show to see Mickey.
Just plain simple marketing, nothing more, nothing less.
I disagree with the idea. I love Buffalo Bill's and Mickey is my favourite character, however I feel that combining the 2 is a poor concept.
That said, I am not adverse to a character meet and greet in the pre show.
Equally, I suppose if Mickey was to introduce and invite Gustave to stage the show at Disney that would be fine! Goofy, Chip 'n' Dale and Minnie shouldn't be involved during the show, it devalues the other performers..
Mind you, there has always been a nod to Disney in the script (during the campfire scene), so I suppose it is not that different.
Can you tell that I am undecided!
Quote from: "ford prefect"That said, I am not adverse to a character meet and greet in the pre show.
Equally, I suppose if Mickey was to introduce and invite Gustave to stage the show at Disney that would be fine! Goofy, Chip 'n' Dale and Minnie shouldn't be involved during the show, it devalues the other performers..
That's a great idea. Sort of a "Mickey presents... Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show".
I can't see the show being changed
too much. Probably just enough to entice and please the families and guests who've obviously been seeing it as too grown-up and -- dare I say the dreaded word -- not "relevant" enough.
Its hardly changing the whole show. Its 1 character which *may* revitalize a dying show, its well known that its not very popular these days.
I've personally never visited it because it looks really boring and Mickey makes it slightly more interesting but its such a small difference its not really going to make me visit anymore than previously.
Quote from: "Willow"Its hardly changing the whole show. Its 1 character which *may* revitalize a dying show, its well known that its not very popular these days.
I've personally never visited it because it looks really boring and Mickey makes it slightly more interesting but its such a small difference its not really going to make me visit anymore than previously.
I know it is expensive, however, the show is far from boring. I have just booked for our next trip (February), I think it will be my 12th visit to BBWWS (our 26th visit to DLP).
The show is great fun and well worth a look.
BBWWS is an amazing and exciting show. I will not visit DDWWS while Mickey Mouse is involved in anyway with the show as I feel it totally devalues an otherwise brilliant show.
I hope this is a temporary measure, although I fear that it will not be.
I too hope this is a temporary adjustment!
Although I have heard that this change has not been confirmed yet? maybe the photos are just for promotional purposes?
The show is magical enough without Mickey Mouse's influence, honestly I can see how this might make the show more appealing to families with young children. I was only little when I first saw this show, and although the clowns and his rubber chicken were entertaining, and I loved watching the horses, I couldnt really appreciate it and all the work that is put in at that age and to be honest, I dont think really understood what was going on.
But if thats the case I, they want to target a new audience, why dont they introduce Mickey into the early showing, and keep the later one as the original, for those of us who truely appreciate it.
Come on they have already closed Buffalo Trading Co :( to make room for a more "commercial" Starbucks what more do they want to take away from the true dlrp fans? and in reguards to " it may revitalize a dying show" personally I think Disney have done that to themselves *cough* the price increase last year, for the same seats which they have just renamed "premium seats" or some such nonsense [-X
Maybe I can excuse this insanity during MMP, after which I hope things return to usual and I dont think we will be visiting BBWWS in March :(
QuoteAlthough I have heard that this change has not been confirmed yet? maybe the photos are just for promotional purposes?
It has definitely been confirmed internally. :)
Thats a shame. it was my last shred of hope :( thanks for brightening my day Kristof :P
I honestly can't see Mickey being integrated too much into the show for one, simple, reason:
Mickey's friend would have a hard time seeing. This makes horse-riding difficult, and that's the majority of the show, no?
Shame to see this happen, even if it is just for a small bit of the show, Bufflo Bill's just isn't the place to have Mickey in it, kind of makes it so good IMO. More thought has been put into rather than just stick a load of classic characters the keep the crowd happy.
Hopefully this won't become a pernament thing, although BBWWS is rumoured to be on it's last legs, which is a real shame. I really like the show (and the food, yum! :D ) so i wouldn't like to see it go, especially with Buffalo Trading going/gone, i want to keep some of the classic Village i used to love :(
guest satisfaction for the show is in quite steep decline as far as im led to believe and i have to agree a few years ago i would see loads of people with the bb hats and now i hardly see any, since 1994 when i first went until today i have never been and i dont feel like im missing out. hopefully the new marketting will mean a new lease of life for the show and secure its future for those that really like it.
I've seen the show once and I really enjoyed it. The first few visits I wasn't keen, it was pricey and I didn't really know what it was about. I have to say it was what I expected, but was still very enjoyable and the food was sooo good. (The hat also helped!)
However, my partner (who convinced me to go in the first place) wants to see it again but I'm not too keen. Am I right in saying that they haven't changed it in all the time it's been running?
I'm certainly not saying that the Mickey introduction is a good thing (quite far from actually) but I do think they could do with changing the format as this would encourage people to see it more than once. However, I personally don't have any suggestions as to how they would go about doing this, as I think it would be a challenge.
Yes, Mickey might bring the families in, but if the young children don't have a good time because they don't understand it then those families will never book the show again
Quote from: "Kuzco"I can fully understand why Disney would do this.
It might convince people who were not going to visit the show to rethink their decision and visit the show to see Mickey.
Just plain simple marketing, nothing more, nothing less.
Quite the opposite - I am thinking about boycotting and writing to Disney about this. Disney do not get it anymore. The whole point of BBWWS is to recreate the original show that toured Europe. MM was not even invented then.
I do not mind them doing meet and greet pre show (they used to do this anyway). But in the main show is terrible.
Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "ford prefect"That said, I am not adverse to a character meet and greet in the pre show.
Equally, I suppose if Mickey was to introduce and invite Gustave to stage the show at Disney that would be fine! Goofy, Chip 'n' Dale and Minnie shouldn't be involved during the show, it devalues the other performers..
That's a great idea. Sort of a "Mickey presents... Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show".
I can't see the show being changed too much. Probably just enough to entice and please the families and guests who've obviously been seeing it as too grown-up and -- dare I say the dreaded word -- not "relevant" enough.
Funny, my 3 year old and 5 year old loved it without Mickey. What next, a steel coaster in Fantasyland!!!
Quote from: "Willow"Its hardly changing the whole show. Its 1 character which *may* revitalize a dying show, its well known that its not very popular these days.
I've personally never visited it because it looks really boring and Mickey makes it slightly more interesting but its such a small difference its not really going to make me visit anymore than previously.
Very sad that you have missed out on the very best attraction in all of DLP, and one of the finest things Disney has ever produced.
Hm..sounds a bit...boring to me. I know Disney must invite or change shows from time to time but BBWWS and Mickey Mouse together in one room? What should Mickey do in this show? Crying out a big "Heeeeyaaaa" in his mickey-voice? No thank you. I like the show in the style it is. It must be a western show not a Disney characters m. and g.
If they are not happy with it anymore they have to invent something totally new. But destroying BBWWS couldn´t be the solution.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Quite the opposite - I am thinking about boycotting and writing to Disney about this. Disney do not get it anymore.
You should definitely do that.
I've never been to BBWWS sadly. I really really want to see it, and every time I go to the resort I say I'm going to, but my family always show no interest whatsoever.
Hopefully next time.
lt's a great show, l've seen it once and l might go again in a year or two, we had a good atmosphere and it's fun to watch. And l agree, it's about the original show that toured not about making it into some Mickey Mouse vehicle. As much as l love Mickey, l'm beginning to think the whole concept is going to create a Mickey overload... :|
The pre-show meet and greet is a good idea IMO, since you'd see Mickey and co in cowboy outfits, it'd be more value for money
The Characters role in the show is not huge!
They will appear at the beginning, introducing the show. They will do a small routine to live cowboy music during the horribly DULL campfire scene! They will be in the stands cheering on the crowds when the medicine ball is being passed around, and appear in the shooting contest to congratulate the "child" who is always the winner.
I like BBWWS as it now, and don't worry it will still be the same Buffalo Bill's Show!! But I think the characters will be an improvement - brightening up the duller moments of the show, injecting some fresh life into it, and the main goal: getting more people in to watch the show by opening it up to a much wider audience, hopefully prolonging its' life at DLRP.
I think, adding Mickey and his friends to the show is a great idea.
I was never really interested in BBWWS. But with a little disneytouch maybe I'll give it a chance.
=D>
thanks poppy sounds like a good idea to me from what youve said, leaving most of the show for the purists out there
Quote from: "Poppy The Monkey"The Characters role in the show is not huge!
They will appear at the beginning, introducing the show. They will do a small routine to live cowboy music during the horribly DULL campfire scene! They will be in the stands cheering on the crowds when the medicine ball is being passed around, and appear in the shooting contest to congratulate the "child" who is always the winner.
I like BBWWS as it now, and don't worry it will still be the same Buffalo Bill's Show!! But I think the characters will be an improvement - brightening up the duller moments of the show, injecting some fresh life into it, and the main goal: getting more people in to watch the show by opening it up to a much wider audience, hopefully prolonging its' life at DLRP.
Sounds good to me! :wink:
It's Disneyland! Come on, it's no big deal! It will revitalize an attraction, and broaden it's appeal.
I personally love all things mickey! :mickey1: But dont really want him in BBWWS as i like the fact its something different away from the usual Disney theme.
Ive seen the show twice and loved it both times (tho i do think Disney had a cheek with the premium seats idea) im planning a trip in the summer with my boyfriend whose not a disney fan and is more going for the rides ](*,) and i think this will actually put him off seeing the show.
Quote from: "Poppy The Monkey"The Characters role in the show is not huge!
They will appear at the beginning, introducing the show. They will do a small routine to live cowboy music during the horribly DULL campfire scene! They will be in the stands cheering on the crowds when the medicine ball is being passed around, and appear in the shooting contest to congratulate the "child" who is always the winner.
I like BBWWS as it now, and don't worry it will still be the same Buffalo Bill's Show!! But I think the characters will be an improvement - brightening up the duller moments of the show, injecting some fresh life into it, and the main goal: getting more people in to watch the show by opening it up to a much wider audience, hopefully prolonging its' life at DLRP.
Thanks Poppy, I'm really considering booking this for September.
Thank you Poppy! :wink:
Phew. That sounds like quite a good compromise really, and you're absolutely right about "opening up" to the show to a wider audience. Though to be honest most of the advertising for the show around the resort and in brochures has been horribly dull for at least the past 10 years, making it look more like a museum exhibit than the kind of thrilling show you must see.
I'll admit, when first reading the headline I though "oh no", but to be honest, I don't see what the problem of utilising the characters is.
And by that description of their appearance, its no biggy. I don't buy into the "characters don't fit" argument. They have a Mickey Luau at the Polynesian.
I think the fitting problem was, that the show originally should be "the original BBWWS as seen under the eiffel tower and other places in europe". And now it´s "the BBWWS presented by Mickey Mouse"
^I see. But its not all that bad, its not as if they're completely replacing Buffalo Bill with "Buffalo Mickey". :roll:
I think this is great, plus I luv getting meet and greets when the characters are in different outfits for seasons or shows (ok maybe i am just sad :oops: ). I was actually looking at the prices for the BBWWS today as I am hoping to have a longer trip in DLP this year, probably in October as I want to experience Halloween. I think it brings the show into the Disney limelight abit and whats the harm in this? Most the people who go to Disneyland Paris go for the Disney Magic so adding just a hint of it to the show won't do the original much harm.
I think what actually harms the show most is the expense of it!
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Quote from: "Aveen2008"Most the people who go to Disneyland Paris go for the Disney Magic so adding just a hint of it to the show won't do the original much harm.
The show IS Disney Magic. Disney Magic isn't always the Fab 5 in topical outfits. Don't make me get all Al Lutz and rant about how Phantom Manor would be with Mickey Mouse as the Ghost Host, haha.
Quote from: "Riebi"I think the fitting problem was, that the show originally should be "the original BBWWS as seen under the eiffel tower and other places in europe". And now it´s "the BBWWS presented by Mickey Mouse"
I had no idea it was once advertised like that. How wonderful.
Could be worse, could have thrown Stitch into the mix with a 10 gallon stetson .Eeeek :?
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Could be worse, could have thrown Stitch into the mix with a 10 gallon stetson .Eeeek :?
Thanks Pete!
What such a great idea!
Im acctually glad to see some sort of changeas i have now seen the show so many times I cant count.I remember once at christmas they had snow falling in the Arena and it was just so magical.
By the way on my last visit a few weeks ago my dream came true and I got to ride in the Stagecoach and got a short view backstage ,it really made my day :D/
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Thanks for posting that, the outfits look really cute. I am still all for the characters being present to be honest.
I think it looks kinda cool too. But I've never seen the show before so I have nothing to compare it to. I've got tickets now though and I'm going to see the show on april 4th and I can't wait! :D
Sorry i havent got round to posting them on here.
Enjoy the photos. I love Minnie's dress its adorable.
The outfits look great :D
Don't know if the characters fit into the classic show parade thou....?
This sucks. Did you guys know, even before DL was built, Walt had plans for a little park across the street from the Studios. He was only going to have one place for characters and the rest was to be themed.
When DL opened, only Fantasyland and the parade had characters.
It is getting rediculous now and is RUINING the resorts.
All you fans, go and enjoy how they ruined LA Bar and Grill, Auberge, Lucky Nugget, the castle, Discoveryland, Main Street, and the hub.
This is increadibly bad.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"This sucks. Did you guys know, even before DL was built, Walt had plans for a little park across the street from the Studios. He was only going to have one place for characters and the rest was to be themed.
When DL opened, only Fantasyland and the parade had characters.
It is getting rediculous now and is RUINING the resorts.
All you fans, go and enjoy how they ruined LA Bar and Grill, Auberge, Lucky Nugget, the castle, Discoveryland, Main Street, and the hub.
This is increadibly bad.
Well if its going to ruin your trip then why are you going?
You haven't even seenthe show with the characters in, do you always judge a book by its cover?
Well, let's put it this way, if someone said they drew a moustache on the Mona Lisa, I wouldn't need to see it to know that:
a) it is not in keeping with the original tone of the creators
b) it is in bad taste and not a good enhancement
C) I would hate the idea and want to do something to stop it happening to other pieces of art.
If all the "beloved" characters all of a sudden disappeared, I am sure there would be outrage online. Would it stop people going? Some yes, some no. But it would have a negative impact too.
I don't understand why people feel the need to be mean to those who critique this.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"This sucks. Did you guys know, even before DL was built, Walt had plans for a little park across the street from the Studios. He was only going to have one place for characters and the rest was to be themed.
When DL opened, only Fantasyland and the parade had characters.
It is getting rediculous now and is RUINING the resorts.
All you fans, go and enjoy how they ruined LA Bar and Grill, Auberge, Lucky Nugget, the castle, Discoveryland, Main Street, and the hub.
This is increadibly bad.
Well if its going to ruin your trip then why are you going?
You haven't even seenthe show with the characters in, do you always judge a book by its cover?
And speaking as someone who has never seen it, do you always defend a book you have never even read?
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"This sucks. Did you guys know, even before DL was built, Walt had plans for a little park across the street from the Studios. He was only going to have one place for characters and the rest was to be themed.
When DL opened, only Fantasyland and the parade had characters.
It is getting rediculous now and is RUINING the resorts.
All you fans, go and enjoy how they ruined LA Bar and Grill, Auberge, Lucky Nugget, the castle, Discoveryland, Main Street, and the hub.
This is increadibly bad.
Well if its going to ruin your trip then why are you going?
You haven't even seenthe show with the characters in, do you always judge a book by its cover?
And speaking as someone who has never seen it, do you always defend a book you have never even read?
Well yeah, because unless i have seen something i cannot for one put it down.
How can you have a opinon on something you havent seen?
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I state again, if someone said they drew a moustache on the Mona Lisa, I wouldn't need to see it to know that:
a) it is not in keeping with the original tone of the creators
b) it is in bad taste and not a good enhancement
C) I would hate the idea and want to do something to stop it happening to other pieces of art.
If all the "beloved" characters all of a sudden disappeared, I am sure there would be outrage online. Would it stop people going? Some yes, some no. But it would have a negative impact too.
I think this looks great! And it's certainly more appealing now that Mickey and the gang have joined the cast. The oufits look very cute :P .
I work in Programme development. Like an architect or a film director, I do not have to see an end result to make an informed decision whether I think something is a good move or not.
In the real world, I have a role where I am developing somethings that will have a 10-50 year impact. I need to be clear on what we are going to achieve and why, before we ever make it happen. I can apply this same level of thought as to whether shoving Mickey in BBWWS, or on the castle with his pals, or Stitch doing YMCA, or characters in It's a Small World, or spinners in WDSP are a good idea or not.
I knew ToT was a great position before it was even built. And I knew Space Mountain was going to be awesome before they struck ground.
Well sadly we are not in charge of Entertainment at DLRP so we have no say on what comes and goes.
We have to like it or lump it sadly. We can moan about it but it won't change anything.
I for one is looking forward to seeing this show in September. Looks like a lot of fun.
You would be surprised. There are a number of key execs who monitor these boards, and some are senior in the entertainment area. You would be surprised the impact boards can have as an indicator. We are a cheap resource.
The show clearly needed some kind of refresh. They were/are practically begging people to visit the show.
Without the (very popular) characters the show might have had to get axed.
I have just been sent some photos from the show, think they was from a rehearsal.
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It doesnt look to bad.
Looks very cute! :P
very very cute :)
Lets see them on the horses now :)
At my work execs regularly read customer boards as it has been said its a cheap resource, so its great to have discussions even if they are get heated. Disney are obviously wanting to save the show by putting the characters in. The product in its current state was obviously nearing the end of its life as the deals being offered to hotel guest smacked of desperation to get it filled. I have never in all the visits I have made to the resort which is in double digits been to see the show so I dont feel I can comment too much, but the characters make me more inclined to take my nephews when we visit in September, as i feel maybe rightly or wrongly that they would be more inclined to enjoy the show. For the resorts sake I hope it means that the attendances grow.
What will be the gift given... a hat with mouse ears out of the top ? :P
I do like the idea but I'm a bit surprised Stitch isn't in it :shock: surely he's in everything :shock:
Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"I do like the idea but I'm a bit surprised Stitch isn't in it :shock: surely he's in everything :shock:
Don't give them ideas! :P
Quote from: "CentralPlazaPerson"I do like the idea but I'm a bit surprised Stitch isn't in it :shock: surely he's in everything :shock:
:lol:
Funny how my brothers loved the show when they were young. And my 3 and 5 year olds said it was a high point and want to go again without toons.
Of my 51 trips, I have been to BBWWS about 16 times. I don't know if I want to bother now. To me getting the axe would have been preferable.
ooo new front sign!
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at lest it looks more of a tempory sign...
fingers crossed
Thanks for the photo.
The poster looks a bit out of place, but the sign hanging down is good.
I was hoping they'd go all kitsch/ironic and put giant Mickey ears on Sitting Bull. :lol:
I heard some people on this topic say , the mickey's magical party event is starting to annoy me . Well the only reason they are putting Mickey Mouse forward is because he is the biggest icon in Disney History ! So they are bound to put him in the show to make MORE tourists come forwards and get more fme then more people will come and more then more. See what i mean.]
BTW , I have seen Buffalo Bill's wild west show ,but not with Mickey in . But it would be exactly the same wouldn't it .
Quote from: "15yearsofMagic2008"BTW , I have seen Buffalo Bill's wild west show ,but not with Mickey in . But it would be exactly the same wouldn't it .
Not according to friend reports. One of my friends is a huge MM fan and he said from last week's visit, the show has been ruined and he will not return - and that's a fan of the Mouse.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Not according to friend reports. One of my friends is a huge MM fan and he said from last week's visit, the show has been ruined and he will not return - and that's a fan of the Mouse.
Why ? What Happened ?
Mickey just has nothing to do with the Wild West. This is like giving Big Thunder Mountain a Mickey-makeover - it doesn't make sense at all.
I love Mickey Mouse, and I also loved Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (even though I felt so ill throughout as I'd forgotten to take an antihistamine, but that's another story...), but I can't imagine how these two elements would combine to form a cohesive show? Even if Mickey and his friends only had a small part, I just think their appearance would destroy the atmosphere you get from BBWWS.
The pictures I've seen look bizarre, maybe the show is better when viewed in person?
What happens is Mickey meet and greets for photos (I am ok with this - and they have done it before). Then they get the characters on the stage and sing kiddie songs (instead of cancan dancers, magicians, jugglers, rope tricks that they used to do). In the main arena, the characters come out with the impressario, they also join in the camp fire scene, and the rodeo games at the end.
Personally, I think this is like drawing a moustache on the mona lisa, even if it is not permanent, I hate it.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"What happens is Mickey meet and greets for photos (I am ok with this - and they have done it before). Then they get the characters on the stage and sing kiddie songs (instead of cancan dancers, magicians, jugglers, rope tricks that they used to do). In the main arena, the characters come out with the impressario, they also join in the camp fire scene, and the rodeo games at the end.
Personally, I think this is like drawing a moustache on the mona lisa, even if it is not permanent, I hate it.
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That is so weird ! It is as if their trying to turn the show into a meet 'n' greet instead of a wild west show ! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
having seen the show, (before and after) and being a fan of both the mouse and the original show...i acutally think the new version is an improvement, especially for kids. it keeps the audience entertained for longer and gives the kids more to be interested in. they have done a very good job on combining the two elements and to be honest, you couldnt tell the difference between the old and the new, it blends very nicely.
:oops: thats just my opinion
it really isnt that bad...reserve your judgement until you see it live.
Ive never seen the show, so I can't comment really on if it's better or worse but the thing is I go to Disneyland for the Disney element and appart from the fact I just haven't had the time or money on my visits to do it, it never appealed to me anyway as it had anything to do with Disney...this is just my opinion so please don't kill me. I also am aware the show is in the village and doesn't nesscarily have to be Disney orientated though.
However my guess is that the ratings have dropped for the show, less people have been perhaps going and they want to try this new technique to see if it brings in extra people and I think it may...so i don't think Disney are in the wrong for trying it at least.
I would be more likely to go now as there is a meet and greet and a Disney element to it.
Ummmm, Aveen, no disrespect, but this whole Disney film tie in culture has only been a very small part of Disney's theme park history. For the first 40 years of Disney theme park history it was about telling a story and making you feel like you were in a different place. This is why I hate what is happening at the parks and with fans (no disrespect to you, we all have different tastes).
The characters until recently was always just a very small part. Now it is becoming the main focus, and I hate that.
I fell in love with DL for attractions like Phantom Manor and PotC, Le Visionarium, and Big Thunder Mountain. I couldn't care less if I ever saw anything character orientated, and I have always felt this way.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Ummmm, Aveen, no disrespect, but this whole Disney film tie in culture has only been a very small part of Disney's theme park history. For the first 40 years of Disney theme park history it was about telling a story and making you feel like you were in a different place. This is why I hate what is happening at the parks and with fans (no disrespect to you, we all have different tastes).
The characters until recently was always just a very small part. Now it is becoming the main focus, and I hate that.
I fell in love with DL for attractions like Phantom Manor and PotC, Le Visionarium, and Big Thunder Mountain. I couldn't care less if I ever saw anything character orientated, and I have always felt this way.
I'm afraid I have to agree. To define "Disney" as "having a Fab Five tie-in" seems to me terribly misguided.
in my humble opinion both should live hand in hand, i go to Disney like aveen to see my fave characters, but I love the theming of the non character attractions. I like the way things are evolving and I look forward to more characters, but in their place. I understand that new attractions need to get the crowds and TOT has done this but so has crush. I think adding Mickey and his friends adds to a tired attraction and will hopefully add to the profitability of the park. If it fails then i believe bbwws will bid a fond farewell to Paris
Quote from: "pussinboots"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Ummmm, Aveen, no disrespect, but this whole Disney film tie in culture has only been a very small part of Disney's theme park history. For the first 40 years of Disney theme park history it was about telling a story and making you feel like you were in a different place. This is why I hate what is happening at the parks and with fans (no disrespect to you, we all have different tastes).
The characters until recently was always just a very small part. Now it is becoming the main focus, and I hate that.
I fell in love with DL for attractions like Phantom Manor and PotC, Le Visionarium, and Big Thunder Mountain. I couldn't care less if I ever saw anything character orientated, and I have always felt this way.
I'm afraid I have to agree. To define "Disney" as "having a Fab Five tie-in" seems to me terribly misguided.
to Davewasbaloo: I can understand what your saying and I mean no disprect in my reply but I feel I must give my opinon on your answer as it was directed at me... So much of the park is in fact tied in with Disney, you seem to forget nearly all the rides in fantasyland link with a disney films, what about the buzz ride, crush coaster, cars rally, aladdins magic carpets, aladdins walk through.. the shops are full of disney merchandise and the park is a disney themed park, if people came with the intension of just going to a theme park they would go to astrix (not sure of spelling) or Alton towers etc.
Disney started with mickey mouse, it started with a character and I just really can't see how you see it as so insignificant and that characters and Disney itself is not what may appeal to many people. I can understand many of the attractions aren't disney themed at all like space mountain and I think it's good that there are ones that arent film related or anything but I think most people, especialy the mass population who come with children do so for the magic brought from the Disney aspect, which yes started with films and characters but also brought magic with it. I agree that people come for the magic of feeling in a different place, a different world nearly, its a magical place but it is disneyland resort paris and i think we should all accept that Disney plays a part. Maybe it will make the wild west show worse, im saying not it's going to be the right move but they must want to try it for some reason.
Pussin boots also, I dont want to neglect your reply, I don't mean to say that the fab 5 actually have to be tied in but what I was saying is that perhaps with them this will bring more guests...obviously the disney company themselves think this is an appropriate move, probably because the show is falling in numbers and profits.
So many people are fond of quoting Walt: "Never forget, it was all started by a mouse" Or words to that general effect.
Indeed, a lot of people have that quote as their signature on the forums.
This year is about celebrating Mickey.I seem to remember people complaining a few years ago that Disney did not celebrate his 75th.
Talk about being trapped between a rock and a hard place.
Personally, I am looking forward to seeing the changes to BBWWS and have booked for July.
Davewasbaloo: Your story based attractions are untouched: Indeed the whole of Frontierland and Adventureland are unsullied by toons. You can still take flight to the stars in Discoveryland without Mickey pressing the launch button and Autopia lets you drive to Solaria without Goofy by your side. Even the planets of Orbitron seem to be avoiding Donald. Star Tours bypasses Pluto and Honey I shrunk the Audience met Minnie once at a party and has never been troubled by her since!
Joking to one side, generally I agree that Disney has changed. The parks and service are not what they were and prices are higher.
However, I love Disney, from the toons to Phantom Manor. I will go and see the new stuff and smile. That alone is worth the money.
=D> well said
Aveen, most of the attractions you mentioned were built in the last 10 years. The bottom line is the last 10 years Disney has moved away from it's roots, and the masses seem to love it and want more. And because of that I am less likely to go.
To put Alton Towers and Parc Asterix in the same zone though is laughable. Disney has always been the best THEME park on the planet. Now they are trying to be a TOON park, to the point that with that, coupled with the rising costs and lower quality service and maintenance means I am less likely to spend my money there.
I come onto the web hoping to see a glimour of the Disney I fell in love with 30+ years ago, and the DLP that had me druelling 17 years ago (when the only toons were in Fantasyland, the parade and meet and greets - just how I like it). Those days are gone (hoped when ToT appeared, it was a return to form). And the fans have changed.
I am getting old I suppose. But it really hurts. Now I know what the old folks felt like when Vaudeville died :cry:
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Aveen, most of the attractions you mentioned were built in the last 10 years. The bottom line is the last 10 years Disney has moved away from it's roots, and the masses seem to love it and want more. And because of that I am less likely to go.
To put Alton Towers and Parc Asterix in the same zone though is laughable. Disney has always been the best THEME park on the planet. Now they are trying to be a TOON park, to the point that with that, coupled with the rising costs and lower quality service and maintenance means I am less likely to spend my money there.
I come onto the web hoping to see a glimour of the Disney I fell in love with 30+ years ago, and the DLP that had me druelling 17 years ago (when the only toons were in Fantasyland, the parade and meet and greets - just how I like it). Those days are gone (hoped when ToT appeared, it was a return to form). And the fans have changed.
I am getting old I suppose. But it really hurts. Now I know what the old folks felt like when Vaudeville died :cry:
I guess we all have different tastes:), I have been a disney fan all my life. I wish that the Paris park (which is the only one I am refering to in my comments) still held the magic for you, I am sorry it doesn't and that you don't really like the changes...I guess we all go for different reasons and that's what it boils down to. I guess with the changes being popular and in demand it only makes sense that Disneyland Paris increase this type of programme. I know that Alton towers and Astrex are nothing in comparison, they aren't the same legue really at all but I was just saying that if people just want theme park rides that have nothing to do with disney then people would go there but most families want to have the disney element too.
Most of the attractions you like have remained untouched by the toon element and they probably won't ever have one so at least that's something positive for you to consider. I hope the changes won't stop you from going to Disneyland Paris.:)
best of luck to you, thanks for the wee debate :wink:
Majority rules. Disney would risk losing a few visitors to gain many more with character-based attractions.
Its simple business.
Quote from: "Willow"Majority rules. Disney would risk losing a few visitors to gain many more with character-based attractions.
Its simple business.
And it's quite upsetting really. Disney used to dream up amazing things and make them reality. Now they just make whatever is cheapest and easiest... and it HAS to have a toon tagged on the end. :roll:
I am always hoping that one day they will realise the mistakes they've made within the last few years.
Quote from: "RnRCj"Quote from: "Willow"Majority rules. Disney would risk losing a few visitors to gain many more with character-based attractions.
Its simple business.
And it's quite upsetting really. Disney used to dream up amazing things and make them reality. Now they just make whatever is cheapest and easiest... and it HAS to have a toon tagged on the end. :roll:
I am always hoping that one day they will realise the mistakes they've made within the last few years.
Can i just ask, when people are refering to things becoming "toon tagged" is it the characters you disagree with like costumed characters I mean or do you mean that you would rather things weren't disney related at all for example meaning you dont really like things like crush coaster or the cars rally being created based on the film?
Hope people understand what I mean? :? lol I am just interested in the different views
Quote from: "Aveen2008"Can i just ask, when people are refering to things becoming "toon tagged" is it the characters you disagree with like costumed characters I mean or do you mean that you would rather things weren't disney related at all for example meaning you dont really like things like crush coaster or the cars rally being created based on the film?
Hope people understand what I mean? :? lol I am just interested in the different views
I think there is just an overuse of characters at the moment. They're being used almost all the time, and sometimes in places where it is completely unnecessary.
For example, we have Buzz Lightyear in Discoveryland which doesn't make sense at all. Don't get me wrong - I like the attraction itself - but in Discoveryland it's just looks and feels stupid. It doesn't fit. Same with Woody's Roundup in Frontierland. I mean, what do plastic toys have to do with Frontierland at all? Mickey in the Wild West show, again, doesn't make sense. There's no need for him being there. It's just more proof that they have to tag a toon on the end of everything.
I am not completely against characters being used in the parks though - they are an essential part of the Disney experience! But I don't go to Disneyland just for the characters, and I certainly don't want to see them "taking over" areas that weren't built for them. And it's not like toons draw more people in either. I mean, look at Tower Of Terror - it attracted more people than ever to the resort, and not a toon in sight! :wink:
If everything in the parks had to be Disney related we wouldn't have Main Street USA, we wouldn't have Frontierland, we wouldn't have Adventureland, we wouldn't have Discoveryland, and even Fantasyland would be nothing like it is today. Even Sleeping Beauty Castle would be completely different too, because right now it's not exactly Disney related - it was a specially designed castle just for the park. :wink:
I don't think the toon problem lies with the Imagineers though. In fact, I have complete faith that they could still create an amazing Disney attraction like Big Thunder Mountain or Pirates of the Caribbean. I think they're just being "forced" to put characters in whatever they create nowadays. :(
Quote from: "RnRCj"Quote from: "Aveen2008"Can i just ask, when people are refering to things becoming "toon tagged" is it the characters you disagree with like costumed characters I mean or do you mean that you would rather things weren't disney related at all for example meaning you dont really like things like crush coaster or the cars rally being created based on the film?
Hope people understand what I mean? :? lol I am just interested in the different views
I think there is just an overuse of characters at the moment. They're being used almost all the time, and sometimes in places where it is completely unnecessary.
For example, we have Buzz Lightyear in Discoveryland which doesn't make sense at all. Don't get me wrong - I like the attraction itself - but in Discoveryland it's just looks and feels stupid. It doesn't fit. Same with Woody's Roundup in Frontierland. I mean, what do plastic toys have to do with Frontierland at all? Mickey in the Wild West show, again, doesn't make sense. There's no need for him being there. It's just more proof that they have to tag a toon on the end of everything.
I am not completely against characters being used in the parks though - they are an essential part of the Disney experience! But I don't go to Disneyland just for the characters, and I certainly don't want to see them "taking over" areas that weren't built for them. And it's not like toons draw more people in either. I mean, look at Tower Of Terror - it attracted more people than ever to the resort, and not a toon in sight! :wink:
If everything in the parks had to be Disney related we wouldn't have Main Street USA, we wouldn't have Frontierland, we wouldn't have Adventureland, we wouldn't have Discoveryland, and even Fantasyland would be nothing like it is today. Even Sleeping Beauty Castle would be completely different too, because right now it's not exactly Disney related - it was a specially designed castle just for the park. :wink:
I don't think the toon problem lies with the Imagineers though. In fact, I have complete faith that they could still create an amazing Disney attraction like Big Thunder Mountain or Pirates of the Caribbean. I think they're just being "forced" to put characters in whatever they create nowadays. :(
I can see what you mean definately, thanks for explaining to me your feelings o the matter :) . I guess Buzz relates to Discoverland because he's like a space ranger and kind of a futuristic character and woody's roundup fitted best in fronterland with the kinda ranchy/cowboy western look of it - this is my guess but I know what your saying also, I don't think I would want characters involved everywhere either but so far I am happy enough with the changes...except I think the stitch dance thing looks ridiculous and unnesscary- although that's just my opinion. :P
QuoteI think there is just an overuse of characters at the moment. They're being used almost all the time, and sometimes in places where it is completely unnecessary.
For example, we have Buzz Lightyear in Discoveryland which doesn't make sense at all. Don't get me wrong - I like the attraction itself - but in Discoveryland it's just looks and feels stupid. It doesn't fit. Same with Woody's Roundup in Frontierland. I mean, what do plastic toys have to do with Frontierland at all? Mickey in the Wild West show, again, doesn't make sense. There's no need for him being there. It's just more proof that they have to tag a toon on the end of everything.
I am not completely against characters being used in the parks though - they are an essential part of the Disney experience! But I don't go to Disneyland just for the characters, and I certainly don't want to see them "taking over" areas that weren't built for them. And it's not like toons draw more people in either. I mean, look at Tower Of Terror - it attracted more people than ever to the resort, and not a toon in sight!
If everything in the parks had to be Disney related we wouldn't have Main Street USA, we wouldn't have Frontierland, we wouldn't have Adventureland, we wouldn't have Discoveryland, and even Fantasyland would be nothing like it is today. Even Sleeping Beauty Castle would be completely different too, because right now it's not exactly Disney related - it was a specially designed castle just for the park.
I don't think the toon problem lies with the Imagineers though. In fact, I have complete faith that they could still create an amazing Disney attraction like Big Thunder Mountain or Pirates of the Caribbean. I think they're just being "forced" to put characters in whatever they create nowadays.
i completly argee with you in every point, when i was in DLRP with a few friends
(all of them are not really disney fans) just told me after the visit, to manny toons!
i think its not true that just toon based attractions bring in all the visitors, its the quality
and the feeling. but what happen is that the most effects won´t work anymore, some attractions really need soe fresh paint, the entertainment is as bad as in a cheap theme park.
i was o the weekend at europapark, and i think right now they have really great
shows, better than the stuff disney do at the moment.. i never liked europapark, cause they
copy disney, but the shows they have are fantastic, disney produce some stupid shows for this year.
disney want a lot of money and all what you get is bad quality, i think they have to change
something right now, stop the plan for toy story playland and paint the castle, refresh
the hotel rooms, fixing some effects and produce petter shows or whatever bring
back the quality from the past. i want something for my money i spend!!!
RnRCJ said exactly how I feel. Disney used to be about creating a sense of place, a way to tell a story. And just like movies and books, there are many stories to be told. Sadly Disney is just refering to the toons across the globe these days and that is the problem.
The characters certainly do have their place and are a part of the story. But when the focus is just on the characters, then I think they have crossed the line. And lately they have.
In many respects, BBWWS is more aligned to something Walt would have produced than Toon Studios or the MMP event. That is what the let's put the Walt back in Disney campaign is all about. It's about getting Disney to tell stories again rather than rely on the toons.
Once upon a time I liked the characters too. But just like the time at college where I drank too much Baileys, I can't touch the stuff now. Makes me sick. And sadly, so do the toons.
If Disney were smart, they should cash on this toon stuff by opening Cafe Mickey's around Europe, and then reduce the tooning a little at the resort. Make us all happy.
Meet and greets and the odd character meal, I have no issue with. But when it is at the expense of theme, non toon themed live entertainment, or every attraction revolves around them, then it makes my blood boil.
It was attractions like PotC that made Disney parks a world wide phenomina. If it were all about toons from the beginning, I doubt we would have ever had a DLP. Look at how badly HKDL is performing for instance.
It is the signature e-tickets, the attention to detail theming, the live entertainment, the service standards, the maintenance and cleanliness with some characters dotted around that make the Disney magic. Sadly, the focus of Disney (at DL, WDW, DLP, HKDL and now TDL) today is just really on the toons and enough to get by on the other stuff. That is why I get so angry with the company and the fans that support this behaviour.
But I have given up. It seems like there is no chance to turn back. The crowds have spoken. But just like the fads dies on leg warmers and Hard Rock Cafe's, I worry whether Disney would weather the storm.
I just find it ironic that Marriott Resorts are more themed than the stuff Disney is producing lately.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"I just find it ironic that Marriott Resorts are more themed than the stuff Disney is producing lately.
I agree with you exactly and yeah the toons seem to be taking over, there is nothing now that does not have a toon in it im sure?
Let's do a tally of stuff recently opened or due to open - toon 53 and non 10 (even when DLP opened, the only toon attractions in Disney's 4 resorts lived in Fantasyland or Splash Mountain):
DLP: Toons 12, Non 2
Woody's Roundup
Mickey show on stage
Stitch thing
Playhouse Disney (for the record I kind of like and feel is appropriate)
Stitch Live
Crush Coaster
Cars
ToT
Toy Story Area
Mickey in Buffalo Bills
Toonvasion of the Lucky Nugget
Buzz
SM MIssion 2 (not as good as the original either)
Princess meal at Auberge
DL (the original) Toons: 20, non 1
The BBQ restaurant with show (toon)
Nemo Subs
Pirate's Island (not toons, but still synergy)
IASW upgrade starring the toons
Princess Fairy Faire
Pixie Hollow
Buzz
Redline Trolly
Monsters Inc (cool ride though it is)
Turtle Talk with Crush
Little Mermaid Attraction
World of Colour
Toy Story Mania
Goofy Coaster
Silly Symphony Swings
Mickey on the Sunwheel
Carsland (4 attractions, though they look like fun, they didn't have to be toonified)
Tarzan Tree House
WDW: Toons 12, non 4
Philharmagic
Pooh Playground
Characters in the castle restaurant
Stitch Encounter
MILF
Rumoured new character attractions for the MK
The Seas with Nemo and Friends
Soarin'
Mission Space
Princesses at Akershus
Kim Possible Adventure
Toy Story Mania
Lights Motors Action (though Herbie is in it will count non toon)
Expedition Everest
Nemo musical
Character meal at Tusker House
TDL: 5 toon, 1 non
Monsters Inc
Buzz
World of Colour
Turtle Talk with Crush
Toy Story Mania
ToT
HKDL toon 4 non, 2 not
Stitch Live
IASW with toons
Drawn to Animation
Mickey's House
Autopia
Spaceship Fountains (very toony)
Now considering before 1989, the only toon attractions were in Fantasyland DL, MK and TDL. Then Splash Mountain opened. Epcot had no toons other than meet and greets (and was awesome) In 1992, DLP opened with all the toons in Fantasyland also (the way I like it). But Toontown opened in DL, spreading toons further. And now they have taken over the place.
Bear in mind I have been a fan of the Disney THEME PARK experience since 1974, this is why I really hate what is happening. Nothing against the toons on their own, but when you look at this trajectory, it is rediculous IMHO.
Hopefully now you can see why some of us are really grumpy about this stuff.
And how many of those toon attractions are of the quality of PotC, PM, BTMRR or IASW? A few, but not many.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"But I have given up.
Hooray! As much as I can see your point, your constant complaining was making me tired. We get it, you don't like the overuse of characters. I can't remember the last post I saw of yours that wasn't on this issue.
I'm not making the "you can leave" point, because you have every right to have a negative opinion. And you have every right to let us know. But I really think you went on a bit.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Let's do a tally of stuff recently opened or due to open - toon 53 and non 10
Oh wait...
Also, to make an admittedly rather snide point, Stitch's Great Escape that you list came from the absolute failure of the "Alien Encounter" attraction at WDW - a non-character attraction :P
No different than my putrid hatred of the happy clappy drink the sacred pixie dust behaviour of the imbecilic rubes that think the toons are what it is all about.
Hey pal, talk a life long obsession and then have people piss on it and see how you feel.
Bite me!
Quote from: "Agent Lex"Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Let's do a tally of stuff recently opened or due to open - toon 53 and non 10
Oh wait...
Also, to make an admittedly rather snide point, Stitch's Great Escape that you list came from the absolute failure of the "Alien Encounter" attraction at WDW - a non-character attraction :P
Have you been on both? Granted, AE was not amazing, it was still preferable to Stitch newbie.
i completly argee with you davewasbaloo, i think its a shame what the imagineers,
and the entertainment department bring out of light. It´s not understandable why they
think the visitors just come because of the toons.
i know this is not a good comparison, but lets take some of the other theme parks in
europe or around the world, they get visitors too and they don´t have toons at all...
i dont understand how anyone can complain about toons,its a DISNEY THEME park,you go there cause you like disney cartoons and characters the whole DISNEY experience otherwise you may aswell stick to any old theme park :? :?
Quote from: "katiefairy"i dont understand how anyone can complain about toons,its a DISNEY THEME park,you go there cause you like disney cartoons and characters the whole DISNEY experience otherwise you may aswell stick to any old theme park :? :?
Ah NO, please reread. With the exception of Fantasyland and later on Splash Mountains, the parks were not about the toons, even when DLP opened. It has gone that way in the last 10 years, but Disney theme parks have been around for 54 years and I have been going for 34 of those. No other theme park comes as close with the quality of theming (maybe Universal). :evil: :evil: :evil:
For those that think it's about the toons, let's do a DLP opening day attraction tally with a T next to the toons.
Toons 10 Not 28 (perfect ratio IMHO)
DLPRR
MS Vehicles
MS Motors
Discovery Arcade
Liberty Arcade
Fort Comstock
Lucky Nugget Review
Big Thunder Mountain RR
Phantom Manor
Mark Twain
Molly Brown
Keel Boats
Native American crafts
Indian War canoes
Cottonwood Creek Ranch petting zoo
Woodcarvers
Swiss Family Robinson Tree House
Adventureland Bazaar
Adventure Isle (slight ref with the pirate ship and skull rock)
PotC
Peter Pan (T)
Pinocchio (T)
Snow White (T)
Chateau (T)
Carousel
Labrynth (T)
Dumbo (T)
Teacups (T)
IASW
Le Visionarium
Orbitron
Videopolis showing Roc Shoc
Star Tours
Captain Eo
Autopia
WWOD Parade (T)
Fireworks (T)
MSEP (T)
And that was it, a much more acceptable level. and the 1st few years coolest additions were not toon related either except Storybookland (Space Mountain, Nautilus, Indy)
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Hey pal, talk a life long obsession and then have people piss on it and see how you feel.
Bite me!
This isn't exactly constructive, considering Agent Lex actually seemed to be agreeing. As much as I also quite agree with this "Put the Walt back into Disney" moan, I think I've been entirely put off going anywhere near supporting it.
Keep all this stuff in the poll topic now please, unless there's anything Buffalo Bill-specific to add.
Anthony beat me to it....
This thread is about Buffaloo Bills with Mickey and friends not how much i hate the toons of Disney.
Back on topic....I'm really looking forward to seeing this in September *yeehaw*
Also, to make an admittedly rather snide point, Stitch's Great Escape that you list came from the absolute failure of the "Alien Encounter" attraction at WDW - a non-character attraction :P[/quote
Well in my opinion the original version was far better than the new one.The older version just had some problems that it was too intence for younger kids and you had lots of crying and complaaining from mad parents.other than that it was a huge success.
On a slightly different note,
QuoteDespite rigorous safety checks over the course of the past 17 years of stunts at Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (La Legende de Buffalo Bill) Disney Village, Disneyland Paris, one of the descenders that slowly lowers stuntmen into the arena during the stagecoach attack broke.
The full piece can be seen here - //http://colonelcody.blogspot.com/2009/05/stuntman-falls-10-meters-into-arena.html
Video of the previously mentioned accident is now available here - //http://colonelcody.blogspot.com/2009/06/adam-bomb-video.html.
Keep an eye on the left hand side of the screen at about 35 seconds in.....
QuoteOnce the cable broke, Adam went into a free fall for 10 meters. He estimated he had about 1/2 second to react, during which time he knew he would have to roll as hard as he could the second he hit ground. So he did, and for a brief moment the impact knocked him cold. Then he moved, slowly rose to his feet, and unbelievably continued with the scene.
The show must go on.......
8) we went to buffolo bills for the first time this month , i cant comment on the changes obviously it being my first time but i think it was the best part of my visit ,the food was excellant the beer flowed freely and the show was fab, mickey and friends only play asmall part and is good for the youngsters the other stuff was brill to watch and very entertaining,so i know what you mean about the toon thing but for the amount of time they are in it i dont think it was spoilt.however the lucky nugget character tea thing well thats a different story!!!! very very bad!!!! :twisted: :lol:
I can not wait to see this i loved it last year when i saw it in the summer but with disney characters it can only get better =D
Can someone tell me what is included in the childrens meal?
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Can someone tell me what is included in the childrens meal?
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Thankyou Anthony :D
The perils of live animals working with cartoon animals:
QuoteMickey Gets Poo on Hands
It was bound to happen. The show, after all, features nearly 40 live animals, all needing to deficate at one moment or another each day, often in the arena itself. Already some of our four-fingered friends (Disney characters) had stepped in manure. On this occasion, it got on Mickey's hand.
It started during the medicine ball pass game of the first show. Sometime during the course of this exciting event the Gold Star medicine ball landed in some manure, certainly not for the first time in the 17 year existence of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, Disney Village, Disneyland Paris France. Between shows the props technicians failed to clean the medicine balls for reasons unclear to me. They are an extraordinarily industrious bunch so they were likely repairing things important or creating some masterpiece of a set element for a grand production to take place in the near future. Or hanging out smoking. Cigarettes one would hope.
At any rate, they were clearly not motivated to clean our balls. Thus, during the second show when I reached down to grab two balls I noticed the gold one had a slathering of manure affixed to it. I carefully handed the ball to Annie Oakley, giving nod to the manure. She subsequently showed it to the cowboy in the arena, who wrinkled his nose in disgust, then threw the ball into the arena. When the cowboy reached down to grab his ball, he decided to rub it in the sand first to dislodge the manure then handed it to his teammate. The second teammate handed it to the third, then to John, the fourth. John held the ball up to Mickey, last in line, to show him the manure. Mickey apparently missed all the cues regarding the manure and simply grabbed hold of the ball, getting crap on his hands.
All of this would be no big deal except that apparently Mickey thought the cowboys had intentionally rubbed manure onto the ball, or intentionally handed it to him knowing it still had manure on it, or something, because when Mickey got backstage he stomped in fury, all 4 foot 8 of him, to the Production Office, rattling the handle to the door in hopes it was open to receive his fury. I could hear his famous high-pitched voice as I walked up the corridor. "Golly!" he exclaimed, "I have poo on my hands, all because of those darned cowboys! Poo!" to which Goofy replied, "Pooh!? Gawrsh! Is Tigger with him? Gaahuckh..!"
http://casualreporter.blogspot.com/2009 ... hands.html (http://casualreporter.blogspot.com/2009/07/mickey-gets-poo-on-hands.html)
Quote from: "Anthony"The perils of live animals working with cartoon animals:
QuoteMickey Gets Poo on Hands
It was bound to happen. The show, after all, features nearly 40 live animals, all needing to deficate at one moment or another each day, often in the arena itself. Already some of our four-fingered friends (Disney characters) had stepped in manure. On this occasion, it got on Mickey's hand.
It started during the medicine ball pass game of the first show. Sometime during the course of this exciting event the Gold Star medicine ball landed in some manure, certainly not for the first time in the 17 year existence of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, Disney Village, Disneyland Paris France. Between shows the props technicians failed to clean the medicine balls for reasons unclear to me. They are an extraordinarily industrious bunch so they were likely repairing things important or creating some masterpiece of a set element for a grand production to take place in the near future. Or hanging out smoking. Cigarettes one would hope.
At any rate, they were clearly not motivated to clean our balls. Thus, during the second show when I reached down to grab two balls I noticed the gold one had a slathering of manure affixed to it. I carefully handed the ball to Annie Oakley, giving nod to the manure. She subsequently showed it to the cowboy in the arena, who wrinkled his nose in disgust, then threw the ball into the arena. When the cowboy reached down to grab his ball, he decided to rub it in the sand first to dislodge the manure then handed it to his teammate. The second teammate handed it to the third, then to John, the fourth. John held the ball up to Mickey, last in line, to show him the manure. Mickey apparently missed all the cues regarding the manure and simply grabbed hold of the ball, getting crap on his hands.
All of this would be no big deal except that apparently Mickey thought the cowboys had intentionally rubbed manure onto the ball, or intentionally handed it to him knowing it still had manure on it, or something, because when Mickey got backstage he stomped in fury, all 4 foot 8 of him, to the Production Office, rattling the handle to the door in hopes it was open to receive his fury. I could hear his famous high-pitched voice as I walked up the corridor. "Golly!" he exclaimed, "I have poo on my hands, all because of those darned cowboys! Poo!" to which Goofy replied, "Pooh!? Gawrsh! Is Tigger with him? Gaahuckh..!"
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sorry but could not help but fail to stop laughing at the last line hehe
I'm going to de-sticky this now the mouse-induced hoopla has died down.
Looks like they're probably here to stay?
looks like it and such a shame at that
Unless next year we get Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show... with Buzz and Woody!
:P
Quote from: "Anthony"Unless next year we get Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show... with Buzz and Woody!
:P
Well it will next year be Toy Story 3 as well as the opening of TSPL so maybe this will be possible?
I hope so!
[spoiler:10evitec]btw only joking!!! I hope not![/spoiler:10evitec]
Quote from: "Anthony"Unless next year we get Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show... with Buzz and Woody!
:P
I really wouldn't joke about that, perhaps not Buzz and Woody, but definitely Woody's Round up Gang would actually make sense to DLP for the NGF. You're giving them ideas! :roll: :P
So now that the show has had a year to settle down with the introduction of Mickey and Friends can anyone recomend if the show is still worth seeing?