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Title: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 13, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
I know the current imagery has been taken on 21.10.2007, but does anyone know the date of the former Google Maps/Earth imagery or can give an educated guess? There is no ToT or CC yet.

If it helps to date it more precisely I can provide shots with more detail than this:

(//http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4615/dlrpdetailssf9.jpg) (//http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7916/dlrpdetailsdo9.jpg)

(//http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4751/studiosdetailskf5.jpg)

Thanks for your help!!
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Willow on November 13, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
Its 2006 at the earliest as the Wonderful world of Disney parade is parked up backstage, including the Character Express as the old dumbo float, would be difficult to narrow it down more but I'm sure some people on here will have a better idea.

I would say Summer 2005-ish.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: ford prefect on November 13, 2008, 02:00:33 PM
Panoramagique is missing and the columns are present in the village.  I would guess 2002/2003.

It would be interesting to see if The soccer school ground is there. Located over the road behind Sequoia Lodge.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 13, 2008, 02:35:37 PM
Thanks for helping me, guys!

Quote from: "ford prefect"... It would be interesting to see if The soccer school ground is there. Located over the road behind Sequoia Lodge.
No, it is not there yet:

(//http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9642/sequioazj9.jpg)

I just checked, the soccer school opened April of 2004, which means the map has to be older than that, right?
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: ford prefect on November 13, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
So the photo must be between March 2002 and April 2004.  I would guess Summer 03
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Alice@Wonderland on November 13, 2008, 05:42:25 PM
Wow - a bit of detective work is going on here!  :-k
Also the fauna indicates that it would be summer as all the trees and flowers are in full bloom.

EDIT: Fauna Flora! I'm getting confussed!
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: The Butlin Boy on November 13, 2008, 11:49:31 PM
Quote from: "ford prefect"So the photo must be between March 2002 and April 2004.  I would guess Summer 03

Sounds about right to me, it had to be before the construction on TOT, TS, Panoramagique, and Buzz had started, so that's probably a good guess :wink:
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 14, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
Yes, it is definitely summer. All the outdoor pools (HNY, NBC, SQL) are crowded, there are six boats on the lake, everything seems to be up and running and even the visitor parking lot is bursting. So the only question that seems to remain is: is it really summer 2003 or could it also be 2002? Is there a way to find out?

@The Butlin Boy: Wow, how do you see the work on Buzz has started? What did they change on the building? Here is a shot of Buzz back then and "today":

(//http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4387/buzzcomparisonvk8.jpg)

Thanks a ton for all your help!
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: The Butlin Boy on November 14, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: "Mobi"@The Butlin Boy: Wow, how do you see the work on Buzz has started? What did they change on the building? Here is a shot of Buzz back then and "today":

 :oops: Ooops! My mistake, I was meant to say that it hadn't started yet. Sorry about that :wink:  :roll:
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: never2old on November 14, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
Maybe be slightly off topic, but how do you guys know the exact date of the current pictures??
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Willow on November 14, 2008, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: "never2old"Maybe be slightly off topic, but how do you guys know the exact date of the current pictures??

I dunno how they have got the exact date of the current images but it you can tell its halloween season 2007 as the pre-parade is parked up backstage.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 14, 2008, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: "never2old"Maybe be slightly off topic, but how do you guys know the exact date of the current pictures??

That is something I learned from Nicholas-c in another thread:

Quote from: "Nicholas-c"with latest version of google earth in the bar at bottom there is a date of when the "photo" was taken :)

Had I known this earlier I would have checked the date in Google Earth of the old imagery in time, I am curious about its date for a long time now ...
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: ford prefect on November 15, 2008, 12:28:59 PM
Mobi, I am on a mission now to date this photo!

Can you provide image of Val d'europ and Val de France please?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 16, 2008, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: "ford prefect"Mobi, I am on a mission now to date this photo!
Can you provide image of Val d'europ and Val de France please?
Many thanks
Weeee, thanks a ton!!! Here you go:

Val d'Europe:

(//http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2941/valdeuropelowjp0.jpg)

Val De France:

(//http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5272/valdefrancelowzb8.jpg)

If you need more detail, I also uploaded these:

Val d'Europe - Medium - 1024x658 296 KB (//http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/482/valdeuropehighcg2.jpg)
Val d'Europe - High - 3773 x 2423 1.483 KB (//http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1691/valdeuropeultracd6.jpg)
Val de France - Medium - 640 x 1028 304 KB (//http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3066/valdefrancehighlg6.jpg)
Val de France - High - 1402 x 2371 1.211 KB (//http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4797/valdefranceultramj0.jpg)

Again, thank you very much for your help!
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: ford prefect on November 16, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
Interesting photos:  

Dreamcastle hasn't been started, Explorer's Hotel, Holiday Inn and Kyriad are all works in progress.

Dreamcastle opened in July 2004 and Explorer's was scheduled to open in April 03.  

Can anyone confirm when Explorer's Hotel opened?

Val D'Europe Garden Centre opened in 2004 and I can't see it.

So, It looks like the photo might be Summer 2002.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Willow on November 16, 2008, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: "ford prefect"Interesting photos:  

Dreamcastle hasn't been started, Explorer's Hotel, Holiday Inn and Kyriad are all works in progress.

Dreamcastle opened in July 2004 and Explorer's was scheduled to open in April 03.  

Can anyone confirm when Explorer's Hotel opened?

Val D'Europe Garden Centre opened in 2004 and I can't see it.

So, It looks like the photo might be Summer 2002.

I was in the Explorer's Hotel in May 2003, it was fully finished though whilst I was there.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: ford prefect on November 16, 2008, 10:48:21 PM
Thank you Willow!  Everything would suggest July/August 2002.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Anthony on November 17, 2008, 06:07:50 PM
Not sure if I'm thinking of the right aerial photo here, but isn't the pink birthday cake stage on Central Plaza? It looks pink-ish, but it's quite small on the first image, it could just be the flower bed actually.

Quote from: "ford prefect"Thank you Willow!  Everything would suggest July/August 2002.
Yes. :)

There used to be a high-quality aerial on a random website that was taken exactly on 12th April 2002, that's what I was thinking of above ^^
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 17, 2008, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: "Anthony"Not sure if I'm thinking of the right aerial photo here, but isn't the pink birthday cake stage on Central Plaza? ...

This one?

(//http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2716/centralplazafn7.jpg)
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Anthony on November 17, 2008, 06:19:10 PM
Ahh, the elusive flower bed! July/August 2002 it is then! :)

Did you save all these images before they changed it? That was very good thinking.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on November 18, 2008, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: "ford prefect"Thank you Willow!  Everything would suggest July/August 2002.
Quote from: "Anthony"Ahh, the elusive flower bed! July/August 2002 it is then! :)...
That is pretty precise, was the flower bed only in July/August 2002?

Quote from: "Anthony"... Did you save all these images before they changed it? That was very good thinking.
Yes, I saved > 200 GB of imagery of the whole DLRP ring of both the old and the new satellite data. It is very interesting to see how the park and the whole area evolved over the years.
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: Disneyland Paris Treasures on February 03, 2009, 03:34:58 PM
Google Earth 5.0 introduced a pretty cool "Time Travel" feature, which makes it possible to look back at satellite images of the past using a time slider!

So now satellite imagery for the following dates is available for DLRP:

- 25. July 2002 (Thursday)
- 31. May 2004 (Monday)
- 24. Jan 2005 (Monday)
- 21. Oct. 2007 (Sunday)

And to finally conclude the quest for the correct date of the map I posted: according to Google Earth it has been captured on 31. May 2004 !!!
Title: Re: Help me date the former Google Maps imagery of DLRP...
Post by: RnRCj on February 03, 2009, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: "Mobi"And to finally conclude the quest for the correct date of the map I posted: according to Google Earth it has been captured on 31. May 2004 !!!

I think I was there then! I must start searching for myself! :lol: