And interesting article can be found at Blue Sky Disney (//http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2008/07/blue-sky-buzz-orlando-its-just-fantasy.html) about some rumoured plans to re-design Fantasyland at Magic Kingdom:
QuoteI remember mentioning that the Little Mermaid wasn't the only project, but I didn't know what else was in the cards for that land. I was actually quite conservative and didn't want to imagine anything big because of Mr. Rasulo's dumbing down of the abilities of the Creatives, something I wish I could discuss(but can't).
Imagine that Little Mermaid attraction we talked about before... it's basically going to be the ride we have here, although it might be a bit smaller and the exterior should be envisioned differently, but all around Fantasyland you'll notice a great deal of detail and a great deal of difference in a bout four or five years if it all comes to pass.
How would you like to get through with your adventures with Ariel and Sebastian and walk out looking around the Florida sunshine basking in that new roller coaster that's been put in for Disney Fans/Geeks to ride. A roller coaster? What are you talking about? The one themed to the Seven Dwarfs, that one. Lavishly made up with details that are closer to something you'd see in Tokyo that stateside, but it's there...
Now what about the other areas of the land that are proposed to have a radical makeover? I mean, there is that Pixie Hallow that looks like you've wandered into the forest in Neverland, there's a meet and greet for Tinkerbell, but the details of this little area are going to make little princess run screaming through this area and really bring a smile on the face of every Disney fan.
There's a new area for a meet-and-greet with the Princess that's quite nice as well.
Oh and remember I talked a while back about there being very few attractions based on the Animated films of the Second Golden Age? I specifically talked about none for my favorite Disney animated film... well, if this comes to pass that will no longer be true. That's right, there is a very nice "Beauty and the Beast" attraction planned for this area as well. I only hope that take some of the great ideas that were proposed for the "B and B" attraction that was to be built in Paris over a decade or so ago.
The plans are still being fleshed out, but these proposals are very extravagant and will leave the Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland looking unlike it's Disneyland sister or any other Disney theme park in the world... and that's a good thing. We need more originality, more reasons to spend money at each of these stops. The budgeting for this expansion is a lot too, not as much as DCA's, but you'd be surprised at how close it is. And this expansion will take up a good portion of Fantasyland, transforming it from an area that has had very little improvement in decades into one of the most different versions of arguably Walt's most famous "land". Now, by the early part of next decade we can possibly look forward to a reason to walk around Fantasyland other than just to compare how much more we like the California version. We can only pray that Rasulo doesn't intend on cloning every one of these concepts for every other park... that would be a way for him to squeeze the fun out of this ambitious proposal. He's like a physic vampire with the ability to suck creativity out of the soul of WDI. I hope Lasseter plays like Van Helsing and puts a stack through his corporate meddling...
Cause if what I've described makes it to completion, you guys are going to be booking your tickets to Orlando rather earlier than you planned. There's a reason to go to WDW that is totally unique for a change.
Not what I've heard in the "Monsters Inc Coaster?" thread accord to Jim Hill.
A Florida version of the long-rumored "Voyage of the Little Mermaid" dark ride to be put into DCA as a part of that US$1 billion redo is on the horizon for 2011.
Aww, it's "poor DCA" all over again. All its new stuff being farmed out across the world before it even gets it itself.
The Little Mermaid and a Beauty and the Beast attraction, hmm? I hope Philippe Gas is invited to this party... :wink:
Can't quite believe a coaster themed to the dwarfs' mine, but it does sound like a very "WDW" thing to build.
Quote from: "Baloo"Aww, it's "poor DCA" all over again. All its new stuff being farmed out across the road before it even gets it itself.
Its DCA's punishment for stealing our Tower! :wink:
Quote from: "Maarten"Its DCA's punishment for stealing our Tower! :wink:
Wow, and we're not letting them get away with it easily, are we? Little Mermaid, maybe Jumpin' Jellyfish, Soarin'... what else can we grab? :lol:
The US parks can definitely keep their Enchanted Tinkerbell DVD-Selling areas anyway.
I WANT IT!
Any refurbishment/redesign of Fantasyland would be soooooooo welcome... It's so un-themed. And un-fantasy. And our "lances" are purple!!!! PURPLE!!! Lances aren't purple!
Naturally, I love Fantasyland, it's where I spent a very stressful year and few months of my life lol. But seriously, I do love it. I just do not like the poor excuses for theming-esecially after seeing Paris's Fantasyland.
Here's hoping!
A blue print of the proposed Fantasyland make-over has been posted on Dreport.com showing a completely changed WDW Fantasyland:
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Worthy pointing out:
- Be Our Guest restaurant and Gaston's Tavern
- Cinderella attraction (I guess the TDL walkthrough?)
- The Little Mermaid dark ride
- Aurora attraction
- Belle attraction
- Duelling Dumbo The Flying Elephant rides with interactive queue line
- Pixie Hollow meet 'n' greet and play zone
Placing the proposed blue print on a Google Earth images shows that most of Toon Town will be removed...
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If these plans should go forward, then WDW would *finally* address its least attractive area. (Personally, at its current state, WDW's Fantasyland has as much charme as WDS' Backlot, in my humble oppinion).
Putting Dumbo at the far end of Fantasyland seems a bit odd to me, but the idea of an "interactive queue" is intriguing.
I like the idea of a Beauty & the Beast restaurant. And there seems a lot of space dedicated to elaborate meet'n'greets. (I suppose that's all these Aurora & Cinderella attractions can be...) But at least it gives the land some depth. And these elaborate meet'n'greets are replacing the tents of Toontown Fair anyway. So no complaints from me.
So fingers crossed that they actually start building all those rides, restaurants, shops and landscaping soon. WDW's Magic Kingdom desperately needs some fresh blood...
If these are the final plans, they are looking very promising to me :)
I'm assuming that the Castle wall thing is supposed to be a castle courtyard type of area, which could be really effective here. I've never been to Florida, but from what I've seen of their Fantasyland, it isn't very well themed, so hopefully they'll be getting some re-themed attraction buildings here at the same time.
As for the Belle, Aurora and Cinderella attractions, they look like walk throughs to me (they could not fit a dark ride in any of those buildings). So perhaps the Cinderella one will be a clone of the Tokyo one that's coming soon, the Aurora one will be a clone of the one that's recently opened at Disneyland California. Which leaves us with the Belle one, and I think the word on every DLP fans lips should be "Animatronic Show"? :wink:
The prospects of the Be our Guest restaurant/Gaston's Tavern seem very promising to me too. I assume that the BOG one will be a table service restaurant, and I'm hoping that some kind of impressive AA show/effects some how incorporated into the design (dancing dishes and cutlery around the room, etc). That would be fantastic :D/
The Little Mermaid is obviously going to be a clone of the DCA version, which is of course fantastic news for us, as it should increase the chances of one opening in Paris in the near future :mrgreen:
Pixie Hollow looks like a more advanced version of the Disneyland Meet and greet, made bigger with a playground included too.
The new Dumbo attraction seems interesting too. Two rides? A next gen interactive queue? Sounds good to me. From the plans, the exterior is looking very promising to me, but I wonder what they've got in mind for the queue then? :-k It also looks like the Dumbo theme is continued up to the train station, I wonder how they could theme that then? Anyone know of any trains in Dumbo? :P
Goofy's Barnstormer is obviously the same ride as the one in ToonTown Fair, but doesn't it seem a little out of place? What about that Seven Dwarf's Mine Coaster we heard rumours about a while back? It would make sense wouldn't it? :wink:
I'd be really happy if these plans go ahead, but of course, despite how official they appear to be, we can't be certain until it's actually confirmed. Remember those Grizzly River Run plans that surfaced for DLP a few months back? They aren't going to happen, and therefore, this may not either. But I do feel pretty confident that a Fantasyland make over will go ahead in the next few years, just what of this it will include is unkown :)
It's taking a while for this plan to sink in, there's a lot to try and visualise. There's no mistaking though, if this actually happens, it's a huge, huge project for Disney. The kind of grand-scale rebuild we've not seen for more than a decade. Potter-land, what was that again? Is it just me that thinks it quite convenient this has been "leaked"?
Thoughts...
I like the way they've got castle walls opening out into the new area, the Princesses houses is a great concept and details like the drawbridge leading into what will presumably be the Beast's castle is incredibly exciting. I guess the Cinderella building will be her grand house, and where it's marked "Belle" will be hers, with the Beast's castle behind? Nice planning. Interesting to see the inside layout of Mermaid. It does look smaller than the plot in DCA, doesn't it? Not quite as "Super E-Ticket" as California's has been hyped as.
Having two Dumbos side by side is a bit much for me. I'd rather have a separate, different ride to eat up those guests instead. That seems very lazy and un-Disney.
To be honest I'd hate it if Paris' Fantasyland was like this - all meet 'n' greet non-attractions, double Dumbos and pixie hollow merchandise tie-ins. Thank god for our real attractions like the canal boats, Alice's Curious Labyrinth, etc.
But yes, considering it was only expected Magic Kingdom would get The Little Mermaid, and only then if very lucky, this is a wonderful surprise.
Quote from: "Anthony"Having two Dumbos side by side is a bit much for me. I'd rather have a separate, different ride to eat up those guests instead. That seems very lazy and un-Disney.
Could be that they are just "giving up" and give the park visitors what they want: more Dumbo... the lines for this silly little spinner ride have always been shockingly long. In no matter which park. And now try to wait 90 minutes for a carrousel wit a four year old. So this "next gen queue" is even more intriguing. (Though I have to wonder: will this queue also include toilets? :wink: )
One thing: rumour is that they are planning on taking the Magic Carpets out of Adventureland and that they would re-theme them to be the 2nd Dumbo. Question is: as the Carpets have been build to hold 4 people on each of its arms instead of Dumbo's 2, would the 2nd Dumbo-spinner also hold 4 or would they be reducing capacity and copy the current look of that Fantasyland favourite?
Quote from: "experiment627"One thing: rumour is that they are planning on taking the Magic Carpets out of Adventureland and that they would re-theme them to be the 2nd Dumbo. Question is: as the Carpets have been build to hold 4 people on each of its arms instead of Dumbo's 2, would the 2nd Dumbo-spinner also hold 4 or would they be reducing capacity and copy the current look of that Fantasyland favourite?
Alien Vs Predator. Monsters Vs Aliens. Dumbos Vs Carpets! :P :roll:
I really hope that this plan will not come to reality. I really can't imagine a Fantasyland with two Dumbo rides and there are way to many meet and greets for princesses.
There are also other visitors than little girls. Disneyland is for boys and adults, too and I really, really hope that Disney will recognize this again.
Nevertheless it's time that WDW's Fantasyland will get a refurbishment. We were so disappointed when we visited WDW last year. They should get rid of this ugly facade that looks like a circus tent and transform it into a Fantasyland like the one at DLRP or DLA.
I think a re-design of the magic kingdoms Fantasyland is urgently required. By adding in new attractions such as the Poohs playful spot, i think they manage to highlight how old fantasyland looks in comparisson with the new attractions. I think instead of adding new attractions, they should re-design fantasyland simular to what happened at Disneyland in 1984
Quote from: "dagobert"We were so disappointed when we visited WDW last year.
I am glad I am not alone.
Liberty Square, bits of Tomorrowland, Epcot, and DAK are the only things worth visiting there. I think most European fans are taken by the scale, or the whole America thing. But park for park, I prefer DLP to the MK and WDSP to DHS.
The Fantasyland there could really use more help, but these plans do very little for me.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"bits of Tomorrowland
ugh! tomorrowland at wdw, especialy around space mountain and the indy speedway also drasticaly needs to be re-designed, its just concrete with a few seats! realy not disney or futuristic at all.
I think once the skyway was removed and instead of its stantions, these huge walkways appeared, the futuristic and fantasy themes began to get lost
My love of the Carousel of Progress, TTA Peoplemover, the rockets in the preferred setting, and Cosmic Rays gives me a soft spot for some of WDW's tomorrowland.
Well at least Fantasyland is finally getting the attention it so desperately needs!! But why is everything there Princesses and Fairies! It's almost as though Magic Kingdom lands are being split into sexes; Fantasyland for girls and Adventureland for boys (Pirates and Jungle Cruise). I can understand the two Dumbos decision, those queue's certainly need reducing. Have I looked wrong or do these plans mean the end of Toontown at WDW?
So we have.....
QuoteWalt Disney Parks and Resorts Chairman Jay Rasulo detailed plans for future lands, attractions and adventures that will be delighting Disney guests for years to come, at the first D23 Expo. Most notable among the announcements were the confirmation of an all-new Star Tours attraction and the largest expansion in the history of the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World.
"Storytelling is the DNA of Disney dreams and we're always exploring new ways to tell new stories in new places," Rasulo told a crowd at the Anaheim Convention Center in California before taking them on a "behind-the-magic" tour of their favorite Disney destinations.
Rasulo announced that a new 3-D version of the tremendously-popular "Star Tours" attraction will debut at the Disneyland Resort and Disney's Hollywood Studios in 2011. Based on the iconic Lucasfilm "Star Wars" films, the attraction will include immersive new elements that will take guests to many familiar places in the Star Wars galaxy.
For Walt Disney World in Florida, Rasulo outlined plans for the largest expansion in the history of the Magic Kingdom, vastly increasing the size of Fantasyland by 2013. Guests will soon be able to:
* Visit their favorite Disney Princess in her castle, cottage, or chateau to share a dance with Cinderella; celebrate Sleeping Beauty's birthday with the Good Fairies; or join Belle in an enchanting story performance in the Beast's castle library.
* Be Our Guest and dine in one of three enchanted rooms inside the Beast's castle.
* Fly with Dumbo high above brand new circus grounds, twice the size of the existing attraction with a new interactive, three-ring circus tent.
* Journey under the sea with Ariel, The Little Mermaid, in her very own attraction - also opening at Disney's California Adventure in Anaheim in 2011.
* Meet Tinker Bell and her friends in the magical world of Pixie Hollow.
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It's been confirmed at D23! By 2013 WDW's Fantasyland will be nearly double its size! :shock: :o
Concept Art is out too! :mrgreen:
Overview:
ABOVE FANTASYLAND -- A bird's-eye view of the vastly-expanded Fantasyland at the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World which will offer Guests a new land of enchantment in a magical fairy tale forest just beyond the castle walls. The expanded Fantasyland was announced at the D23 Expo on Saturday by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chairman Jay Rasulo.
The Little Mermaid:
Fans of Disney's animated classic, The Little Mermaid, will journey under the sea to meet Ariel and her friends on an exciting new musical adventure. This new attraction will take guests through beautifully rendered scenes featuring classic songs from the popular animated feature. The attraction will be part of the expanded Fantasyland that was announced at the D23 Expo on Saturday by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chairman Jay Rasulo.
Dumbo:
One of the Magic Kingdom's most beloved attractions, Dumbo the Flying Elephant, is completely re-imagined when the circus comes to town. Guests are invited to step into the big top and join the circus before their magical flight over Fantasyland. The attraction will be part of the expanded Fantasyland that was announced at the D23 Expo on Saturday by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Chairman Jay Rasulo.
WOW! =D>
EDIT: I was beaten to it :roll: :wink:
More More More! :D/
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Does anyone want even more concept art? :wink:
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Ooh... and a video?
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Quote from: "Willow"Does anyone want even more concept art? :wink:
Link (I would post them all but there's loads. (//http://www.attractionsmagazine.com/blog/2009/09/12/d23-expo-20-pieces-of-concept-art-for-the-major-fantasyland-additions-now-confirmed-for-walt-disney-world/)
Ooh... and a video?
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Well you've out done me there! :lol:
This project looks so impressive, it's going to be very interesting to watch chand from sketch to reality :)
Wow this looks very, very impressive and magical - I love the immersive themening, although there might be a bit too much focus on the princesses ;)
I also would have loved to be at the D23 Expo - I almost got chills from watching the video :lol:
One word...WOW.
The new Fantasyland looks excellent, I'm loving the look of the Be Our Guest restaurant. I noticed a Lumiere on a service trolley. Does this mean we will see something along the lines of WDS's Remy? That would be so awesome.
Pixie Hollow looks magical too, will be amazing for kids.
The new Dumbo I like the look of too, like the idea of a circus tent where there will be no 'queue' as you will be playing interactive games while you wait for the ride. How cool is that?
This new Fantasyland will definitely be a magical place for all ages.
The overview concept art is beautiful!
I love the mention that the Be Our Guest restaurant will be counter service during the day and transform into a table service in the evenings. Very very smart.
But most of all...
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So that's how they'll do The Little Mermaid! We knew it couldn't be the DCA design, that the old Paris Bella Notte design was probably long forgotten. I was almost expecting the DisneySea design, but this is so much better. I can see that fitting wonderfully at the back of a certain other Fantasyland...
It's a shame for Disney actually that all this stuff was leaked before. Can you imagine if this presentation was the first heard about it? People would have been fainting in the ailes...
Anyway, gushing aside, the Princesses things do look lovely on the inside and out, but their status as "attractions" is very flimsy and probably a little too child-orientated. Jay Rasulo tells us that, at Aurora's cottage, we'll make... BIRTHDAY CARDS! What? Is this a summer school or a Disney park?! He sells it like its an amazing feature, whilst mostly glossing over the huge TLM dark ride. Let's hope the other things like Cinderella's transformation show are more all-rounders.
This is absolutely amazing! I even can't imagine how beautiful this will look in real!!!
I think it's a master piece done by imagineers :D
But, I also noticed something very familiar on the concept art:
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Aren't these our Tea Cups? :P
Good point. The current design of the Mad Hatter's Tea Party at the Magic Kingdom is really dated and ugly compared to "our" beautiful, luxury version :-)
Btw, I took the original leaked plans for the Fantasyland expansion, and overlaid them on the Magic Kingdom 3D model in Google Earth. It's quite interesting seeing the area the expansion takes up, from different angles:
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Good work Alan!
QuoteGood point. The current design of the Mad Hatter's Tea Party at the Magic Kingdom is really dated and ugly compared to "our" beautiful, luxury version :-)
Totally agree with you - it's dated and doesn't fit into a re-designed Fantasyland like that.
Is there anything official about that change? Or is it just a future plan to change it maybe in some years - because it isn't mentioned anywhere...
@Alan - fantastic job! - It's going to be huge... :D
Wow, these concept arts are great. It looks like I've missed quite a lot last week. Fantasyland at WDW really deserves such a makeover. I was so diappointed when I visited WDW.
I really hope that Little Mermaid will make its way to DLP's Fantasyland, too.
Yes i'm so happy to hear (read) this.
the fantasyland in WDW is the worse of all.
all the atraction are in the style of the caslte.
the castle is nice.
but the rest is like a white wall whit the sign of the atraction.
only the mair maid lagoon is not in that theme.
and dumbo .
but what i don't see are the plans for a better Its a Small World.
all buildings of the Small world's are those beautifull toyish, buildings whit all lot of pink collours our white whit silver and gold accents.
the WDS version is also a white whalle whit a big hole.
and a little Small World building in side.
i realy like the idea to build more houses of the prinses.
the dumbo idea is realy great to
and i can't wait to see to first pictures.
lets see in 2012
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A newer concept art has been released. (Found on Progress City USA, where there is also a much bigger version)
wow what amazing concept art iv never been to wdw but when all this is complete i may have to make i lil trip :D
Here are some crops I did of the new (more detailed) artwork:
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First look at a 3D model of the expansion:
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Although the model looks great and WDW's Fantasyland really needs an improvement, I'm not happy with the direction the expansion is going. The new Fantasyland focuses just too much on the princesses.
WDW is also on the cheap side, so I think that some things of the expansion will get scrapped. Hopefully not TLM ride.
I'm not sure. On one hand, it looks exciting for obvious reasons — The Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland needs a makeover like Louis XIV needed modesty, and well, it involves Gaston's tavern — but I agree with Dagobert that it all seems so princess-focused, so very Walt Disney World circa now.
I mean, mass-producing Dumbo rides... Turning those glassy-eyed bimbo princesses from the bedsheets into live characters... (They had personalities in the films, did they not...?) The Beauty and the Beast ballroom everyone wants to see as an overpriced character buffet... And let's not forget Tinkerbell's new multi-ethnic, fashion-loving friends. They deserve something at least the size of Big Thunder Mountain.
They're completely, unabashedly, aiming for that lowest common denominator of the provincial family of doodah pudknockers from Pocatello, Idaho who've wheeled out their daughter for a princess makeover while probably not a single member of the family could name an actual princess, alive or dead. As they probably exist in the minds of those in charge. It's that whole plucky Extreme Makeover team furnishing the castle suite all over again. Which means Walt Disney World is drifting even farther apart from Disneyland, which is increasingly aiming upwards on the cultural ladder.
I mean, I don't blame them for being business-like (as they are in fact a business) and for trying to sell some Tinkerbell dolls, but this is a bit much!
So I'm kind of glad this isn't happening to Paris or Anaheim. Although obviously the Little Mermaid ride could be forgiven...
Quote from: "Anthony"To be honest I'd hate it if Paris' Fantasyland was like this - all meet 'n' greet non-attractions, double Dumbos and pixie hollow merchandise tie-ins. Thank god for our real attractions like the canal boats, Alice's Curious Labyrinth, etc.
Yes, quite.
This might be an old model. Look closely at the Pixie Hollow area, it looks like a Mater's Junkyard Jamboree/Cars Race Rally ride. You can even make out circles that that the vehicles (I'm guessing they're fairies or something) are rotating on. It wasn't included in any artwork so either its a scrapped idea or a new phase 2 idea.
Quote(I'm guessing they're fairies or something)
not fairies it is this little rat with that waggon from the movie :D
the model looks great, but as postet above, to much is princess related and nothing really great.
sometimes i get the feeling that disney lost its way and don´t believe in theyre work. i think they are affraid to make attractions with an originally story like BTM, POTC ect. i think this will put people also in the parks and not just the movie stuff...
if you look at all the expansions going on you see just 2 attraction with an non movie based story! the rest ist Carsland, Fantasyland expansion, little mermaid, toy story playland, toy story mania, cinderella walkthrough, silly simphony swings, maybe ratatouille, maybe carsland for DHS, monster inc coaster for DHS.
Quote from: "lil-shawn"if you look at all the expansions going on you see just 2 attraction with an non movie based story! the rest ist Carsland, Fantasyland expansion, little mermaid, toy story playland, toy story mania, cinderella walkthrough, silly simphony swings, maybe ratatouille, maybe carsland for DHS, monster inc coaster for DHS.
Which two attractions do you mean? I think the new Fantasyland attractions are all based on movies and the attractions in California either.
Quote from: "dagobert"Which two attractions do you mean? I think the new Fantasyland attractions are all based on movies and the attractions in California either.
Mystic Manor and Grizzly Mountain at Hong Kong aren't featured on a movie- although they're not exactly new ideas, just different stories for Phantom Manor and BTM.
I didn't think about the expansion in Hong Kong. I'm sure that these attractions will be great!
I'm really looking forward to seeing how the HKDL's expansion goes! I'm also excited for WDW's Fantasyland, although there are a lot of Princess focused "attractions".
The whole part I don't agree with is the Tinkerbell section, but I guess TWDC want to use it as an area to market their Tinkerbell movies. As far as the movies are concerned, I don't like Tinkerbell speaking. I know that probably sounds a bit odd, but to me, part of her charm in Peter Pan is that she can't speak and her personality was conveyed by how she moved and her mannerisms, it made her really unique.
Quote from: "luke85"The whole part I don't agree with is the Tinkerbell section, but I guess TWDC want to use it as an area to market their Tinkerbell movies. As far as the movies are concerned, I don't like Tinkerbell speaking. I know that probably sounds a bit odd, but to me, part of her charm in Peter Pan is that she can't speak and her personality was conveyed by how she moved and her mannerisms, it made her really unique.
That doesn't sound odd at all to me. And have you seen her new outfit?
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I know we're supposed to be adults here and let the little girls have their fun, but this is just a cheap, quick way for Disney to make a buck off their underdeveloped capacities for recognizing crap. Tinkerbell was better off as the spot of projected light she was in the original play.
But according to Al Lutz, the Tinkerbell franchise isn't doing as well as they had hoped. So maybe the whole thing will blow over.
Has this picture of the "Dueling Dumbos" been posted yet?
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It's a shame they've decided to put it in a corner, and on ground level. Apparently two versions of the Flying Carpets ride haven't made them rethink that.
I wonder if the Casey Jr train is a prop or a remnant of a canceled plan to add that ride?
Aren't the Duelling Dumbos meant to be replacing Toon Town. Maybe Goofy's Barnstormer could be rethemed somehow into Casey Jr.
Until now the Disneyland Park in Paris is the biggest Disneyland style park in terms of size. Do you know if the Magic Kingdom will be the biggest after the expansion?
I don't think so, I think this "new" Fantasyland will take over Toon Town Fair, so I don't think the park will get bigger. Anyway, I think TDL is bigger than the Magic Kingdom, and Paris is bigger than TDL.
Here's your answer. Even with the new Fantastyland expansion, Disneyland Park at Disneyland Paris will still be the largest Disneyland-style park in the World.
Epic Win for Europe. Epic Fail for America:
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Quote from: "Alan"Here's your answer. Even with the new Fantastyland expansion, Disneyland Park at Disneyland Paris will still be the largest Disneyland-style park in the World.
Epic Win for Europe. Epic Fail for America:
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Wow, fantastic picture, Alan. Ive been looking for a comparison picture like this for agggeesss.
Daaaww... makes me so proud that DLP is the biggest. :D
Quote from: "Alan"Here's your answer. Even with the new Fantastyland expansion, Disneyland Park at Disneyland Paris will still be the largest Disneyland-style park in the World.
Epic Win for Europe. Epic Fail for America:
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Wow, fantastic picture, Alan. Ive been looking for a comparison picture like this for agggeesss.
Daaaww... makes me so proud that DLP is the biggest. :D
Look at poor Hong Kong Disneyland... it's so tiny :(
Quote from: "Alan"Here's your answer. Even with the new Fantastyland expansion, Disneyland Park at Disneyland Paris will still be the largest Disneyland-style park in the World.
Epic Win for Europe. Epic Fail for America:
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Epic fail for America? How so? Maybe it's just me, but park size doesn't translate to how good a park is. If I remember correctly, Disneyland has more attractions stuffed into it than any other park. Small, but packs quite a punch in the entertainment/attraction category!
Thanks for the picture Alan.
Of course size doesn't matter for the quality, but I was just interested if DLP is bigger and not if any other park has more attractions or shows.
Hong Kong really is frightfully tiny. If its borders were implemented in Disneyland Paris, you would not be able to reach the Rivers of the Far West.
"Cinderella's Golden Carrousel" in the MK at WDW is changing its name to "Prince Charming Regal Carrousel" on June 1.
In my opinion it is a very strange and lame name. I don't like it at all.
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I don't really understand why there is a need to change the name? The only thing I can think of is that when the Fantasyland expansion opens there would be 3 "Cinderella" titled attractions in Fantasyland and they wanted something different for the Carousel?
Disney has confirmed it is re-tooling the Fantasyland expansion to make it more appealing to boys
Quote from: "SM:M3"Disney has confirmed it is re-tooling the Fantasyland expansion to make it more appealing to boys
Can boys meet Beast and all the other Prince Charmings? :lol:
I still don't get how Disney could think that an expansion that will just attract girls will be an success. I think Disney is afraid of Harry Potter. While Universal's attendance number is up, Disney's is down. That proves that people don't come to Disney just because it is Disney. They want to see quality rides and not just meet and greets with princesses.
On StitchKingdom.com you can watch a video about WDI in general, how Walt came up with the idea of Disneyland, how WDI creates attractions and an insight on the Fantasyland expansion.
http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-new ... expansion/ (http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-news/theme-parks/video-nasa-summit-rare-insight-imagineering-mermaid-3d-model-kim-expansion/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Here are some news about the Fantasyland expansion at WDW. I have to say that there are good news and bad news.
First the good news:
It seems that Disney realized that meet and greets with princesses will not attract more people, so they scratched some. I'm very happy about that move. The next good thing is that the long rumoured Snow White Mine Ride, a rollercoaster, will get built where Dumbo is now.
Now to the bad news:
It seems that in February 2011 Snow White's Scary Adventure will close for good. It will be replaced with a meet and greet. Despite the bad things that happened recently at DLRP, I'm happy that closing a classic ride is not going to happen at DLRP.
So there will be nothing new at WDW that can compete with Universal's Harry Potter.
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I guess it's sad that Snow White's Scary Adventures is getting shut down. But, if some of the same scenes show up in the Seven Dwarfs Mine Ride, then it's understandable. No point in them having two attractions with the same theme.
The Mine Ride sounds interesting. I wonder if it would fit into Fantasyland at Disneyland Paris? Is that a possibility for the future? Is it something they could market successfully, to attract more people to the park?
As for WDW competing with Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey, they haven't even caught up with The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man yet, and that ride opened over 11 years ago! So I wouldn't expect them to have caught up with the Forbidden Journey until at least 2021!
The reworked New Fantasyland has been officially announced: http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2 ... gdom-park/ (http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/01/update-on-new-fantasyland-at-magic-kingdom-park/%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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It really is very different from what they first announced. Can't quite work out for better or worse yet. At least the Beauty and the Beast area remains intact, and it does make more sense to have the Princess stuff inside the castle walls and the Dwarfs cottage in the land beyond.
As far as I can see this will broaden the appeal more than the original plan with lots of "Enchanted Meet'n'Greets" all over the place. Now they are mainly focusing those to the new Royal Hall inside the old Snow White building, whereas they will bring an all new Snow White Adventure with a "first-of-its-kind" rollercoaster based on the dwarfs mine (excited to hear more). However closing a classic like Snow Whites Daring Journey is quite a risk/gamble to take!
But then again all I base this on is concept art and having never been to WDW I cannot imagine everything that precise - at first it seems to be for the better in my opinion though!
The new Fantasyland looks really great. I'm so glad that these stupid meet and greets are gone and I'm very excited about the new Snow White rollercoaster.
The current Fantasyland is ugly and I'm happy that this will change the whole land. You can't compare WDW's Fantasyland with the one in Paris.
It's a bit sad that a classic like Snow White gets replaced, but I think that the new ride will also be great. At least I hope so.
After TSPL, the first concept arts of Fantasyland with all the meet and greets, all the unnecessary character adding and messing with themes I really lost the faith in WDI, but the Fantasyland expansion lets me hope again.
It seems that Tom Stagg's sons are reponsible for the change to a less girl oriented Fantasyland:
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I'm not too keen on this new Storybook Circus, or the removal of the lake to the right of the bridge leading towards Gaston's Tavern. But the addition of the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is a positive one. I like the sound of the on-board soundtrack and the vehicles that swing back and forth. I think losing Snow White's Scary Adventures won't really matter, because so many of the scenes will be replicated and improved upon in this new coaster.
Thinking about it now, Fantasyland at Walt Disney World will only have 2 small dark rides (Peter Pan and Winnie the Pooh). Whereas Fantasyland at Disneyland Paris still has 3 small dark rides (Peter Pan, Pinocchio, and Snow White). It makes me wonder, what if Pinocchio and Show White got replaced by Winnie the Pooh at Disneyland Paris, and this new Seven Dwarfs Mine Train got built elsewhere? Or is the Mine Train too similar to our Casey Junior coaster?
Fantasyland at Walt Disney World actually has (or will have) a number of unique attractions that could be cloned to Disneyland Paris. Which one do you think would have the most impact in France?
- The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1999)
- Mickey's PhilharMagic (2003)
- The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Adventure (2012)
- Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (2013)
I also wondered what would happen to the dark rides in Paris. I don't want to see the Winnie Pooh ride near the castle courtyard, because I don't think it fits there. I would prefere the space near Fantasia Gelatti, but I don't know if it is big enough.
Since Casey Jr and Storybook Canal Boats are closed so often, I wouldn't mind if Disney would replace these attractions with the Snow White Mine Train.
Why are Casey Jr and Storybook Canal Boats closed so often? Is it because they're too expensive to run? Is it because they provide additional capacity that Disneyland Park doesn't need? Is it because they need a heavy amount of maintenance? Is it because they're not designed to operate in Winter weather?
I mean, suppose Casey Jr and Storybook Canal Boats were replaced with the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, but it ended up being closed as often as they are, it wouldn't really improve things would it?
I don't know why they are closed so often. I have been to DLRP five times and the rides were open only once.
I don't think that an elaborate attraction like the Mine Ride would be closed that often. If it would get built in Paris, I think it would also look like the one seen on the concept art.
This might be a hard question to answer right now, but what "level" of ride is this new Mine Train? It looks like a promising addition, but they have already got the Barnstormer, which you'd think covered the land for a Casey Jr style tame coaster. Or is it not actually a coaster?
Hopefully nothing will happen to the dark rides in Paris beyond upgrading them with new effects. If we were going to get anything from this New Fantasyland it should absolutely be the Beauty and the Beast area.
Not keen on the Storybook Circus either. It'd be cooler if it was circled by a Casey Jr you could actually ride.
@Anthony
The Barnstormer is more of a real coaster than our Casey Junior. The Barnstormer is a proper (though tiny) gravity powered roller coaster, whereas our Casey Junior drives along the track electrically (it's a powered coaster).
I think this Seven Dwarfs Mine Train ride is going to be more like Casey Junior than the Barnstormer. I imagine it being a very controlled coaster, carefully paced with motors.
I really want something to happen to Fantasyland at Disneyland Paris to shake it up a little and make it fresh again. Which is the less popular dark ride, Snow White or Pinocchio? Which one gets the axe? :-)
The Beauty and the Beast area from the MK's Fantasyland Expansion looks fantastic, but seems to lack substance. I mean, there's a story-time thing with Belle and a restaurant that you obviously have to pay to eat in. How much of that would you do on a typical visit to Disneyland Park?
For me, The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure is the crown jewel of the MK's Fantasyland Expansion, and the one attraction that Disneyland Park (in Paris) should get PRONTO. It's all indoors and it's an omnimover type ride so it's got tremendous capacity (unlike Crush's Coaster and everything in Toy Story Playland).
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Quote from: "Alan"@Anthony
The Barnstormer is more of a real coaster than our Casey Junior. The Barnstormer is a proper (though tiny) gravity powered roller coaster, whereas our Casey Junior drives along the track electrically (it's a powered coaster).
I think this Seven Dwarfs Mine Train ride is going to be more like Casey Junior than the Barnstormer. I imagine it being a very controlled coaster, carefully paced with motors.
I really want something to happen to Fantasyland at Disneyland Paris to shake it up a little and make it fresh again. Which is the less popular dark ride, Snow White or Pinocchio? Which one gets the axe? :-)
The Beauty and the Beast area from the MK's Fantasyland Expansion looks fantastic, but seems to lack substance. I mean, there's a story-time thing with Belle and a restaurant that you obviously have to pay to eat in. How much of that would you do on a typical visit to Disneyland Park?
For me, The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure is the crown jewel of the MK's Fantasyland Expansion, and the one attraction that Disneyland Park (in Paris) should get PRONTO. It's all indoors and it's an omnimover type ride so it's got tremendous capacity (unlike Crush's Coaster and everything in Toy Story Playland).
The Little Mermaid would be a perfect addition to DLRP, since a similar ride was envisioned for DLP. I would even prefere it over Ratatouille. DLP deserves a new ride. I think that attraction would give DLRP another boost. The little Mermais is still very popular and nearly everyone knows the movie. It's an elaboate ride with lots of theming. That's an attration on which DLRP should spend money.
The Barnstormer is a kiddy coaster and perfect for the little ones, who can't ride the big coasters, but I don't want to see such an attraction in our Fantasyland. It's mildly themed and so it shouldn't be in our DLP.
Quote from: "Alan"I really want something to happen to Fantasyland at Disneyland Paris to shake it up a little and make it fresh again. Which is the less popular dark ride, Snow White or Pinocchio? Which one gets the axe? :-)
Probably Snow White, but then you'd ruin a whole corner of Fantasyland for no reason. DLP has plenty of room to expand Fantasyland still, without needing to lose rides.
Quote from: "Alan"The Beauty and the Beast area from the MK's Fantasyland Expansion looks fantastic, but seems to lack substance. I mean, there's a story-time thing with Belle and a restaurant that you obviously have to pay to eat in. How much of that would you do on a typical visit to Disneyland Park?
Yeah, I'd prefer it if it offered something a bit more worthwhile. How about a dark ride tour of the Beast's castle, using the vague outline/layout of the Little Mermaid dark ride? For Paris, I mean. I'd personally love a whole Beauty and the Beast mini-land beyond the railroad, where we've talked about Little Mermaid going in recent years.
Quote from: "Alan"I think this Seven Dwarfs Mine Train ride is going to be more like Casey Junior than the Barnstormer. I imagine it being a very controlled coaster, carefully paced with motors.
Now that I think about it, couldn't it be rather like Crush's Coaster? Without the spinning obviously. From the concept it seems to have those same twisting outside drops, almost like an old-fashioned ghost train, plus inside cave scenes. Has that been suggested anywhere, or don't WDW fans even know what Crush's Coaster is?
@Anthony
Disneyland Paris does indeed have plenty of room to expand Fantasyland. But, you know, if the popularity of an attraction is low (e.g. Le Visionarium) Disney like to replace it with something new. There was plenty of space in Discoveryland to build Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast, without getting rid of Le Visionarium, but that's not how Disney operate. The last time I checked, both Pinocchio and Snow White were way less popular than Peter Pan's Flight.
A dark ride tour of the Beast's castle would be great. But Disney love to clone new attractions, to save on development costs. So, if they're going to open the Little Mermaid ride at DCA this year (2011) and at WDW next year (2012), why not open the same ride at Disneyland Paris the year after (2013)?
I haven't read anywhere that the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is going to use the same ride system as Crush's Coaster. You may be right, but I don't think it's going to be like that. The concept art shows trains of 4 cars, with 4 guests per car, so that's 16 guests per train. I have a feeling it's going to be manufactured by Vekoma, unlike Crush's Coaster which is manufactured by Maurer Söhne.
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if they are getting rid of toontown, then they should try and save as much as possible and send it to dlp, maybe as a temporary attraction for the 20th anniversary. but i think the walt disney company should buy more shares in eurodisney, so they can help a bitt more
Quote from: "peter"if they are getting rid of toontown, then they should try and save as much as possible and send it to dlp, maybe as a temporary attraction for the 20th anniversary. but i think the walt disney company should buy more shares in eurodisney, so they can help a bitt more
DLRP really doesn't need the cheap toontown fair stuff. They should get rid of it and never use it again. Back then it was just supposed to be temporarily. Unfortunately it stayed until today.
Judging from the concept arts released, I'm very pleased what I see about the Snow White coaster.
Looking at this picture, I think it will be a gravity coaster:
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The picture is taken from disneyandmore.blogspot.com. Alain has posted an interesting article about the new Fantasyland attractions:
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/ ... yland.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/01/closer-look-to-wdw-new-fantasyland.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
According to Walt Disney Imagineer Eric Jacobson, the Seven Dwarfs coaster experience will be somewhere between Dig Thunder Mountain and Goofy's Barnstormer.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-dail ... 7296.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-daily-disney/os-disney-seven-dwarfs-ride-20110127,0,5007296.story%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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looking at the new artwork for the mine train, it is absolutely huge. the track is all over the forest bit in front of little mermaid. but dlp needs beuaty and the beast. how can a french disney park not have a ride for a disney film BASED in france!!
The official Disney Parks Blog has posted a picture about the construction of the Fantasyland expansion.
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Walt Disney Imagineers are currently piecing together the Beast's castle, which will sit high atop what will become the Be Our Guest Restaurant. The "Beauty and the Beast"-inspired restaurant, which is set to open in late 2012, will offer a lavish dining experience in the castle's elegant ballroom, gallery and mysterious "west-wing." The restaurant and castle will eventually be flanked by Gaston's Tavern, Bonjour! Village Gifts, and the cottage of Maurice (Belle's father).
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Here's a new update from the official Disney Parks Blog:
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the amount of forced perspective in this extension is unreal. i mean seriously, how small is the beasts castle?!
It's very "Hogwarts", isn't it?
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Almost identical set-up!
I'm still not excited by this, I don't think one new dark ride, a rollercoaster-dark ride cross, a replicated Dumbo and some meet and greets will stop the rise of Universal in Florida, especially as it will open what 3,4 years after Harry Potter. :?
What with Universal exploring the possibility of extending the Harry Potter area and even possibly building a water park, Disney are lucky people will go regardless.
Disney isn't trying to compete with Universal or Harry Potter with this expansion, it was really needed. If they were to compete with Harry I'm sure The Princesses would be last on the list to do so with, that's completely different markets.
Personally this does excite me, two new E-ticket rides and dining experience. I'm sure if something similar of this size was happening at Dlp you would be.
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"Disney isn't trying to compete with Universal or Harry Potter with this expansion, it was really needed. If they were to compete with Harry I'm sure The Princesses would be last on the list to do so with, that's completely different markets.
Personally this does excite me, two new E-ticket rides and dining experience. I'm sure if something similar of this size was happening at Dlp you would be.
I would say you are partly right. The whole Fantasyland expansion plan got changed after Disney saw what impact HP had. Although Disney still denies that. Universal's attendance numbers increased while Disney's didn't. No one can tell me that a company that is responsible towards its shareholders doesn't care how the main competitor in Florida does.
I would be excited to see that expansion in Paris, except for the double Dumbo ride, I prefere the single version, and the princess meet and greets. But given WDW's financial situation I expect a bit more than just a Fantasyland expansion. Disney clearly fell behind Universal in terms of attractions and innovation.
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"Personally this does excite me, two new E-ticket rides and dining experience. I'm sure if something similar of this size was happening at Dlp you would be.
If this was happening at DLP I would only be excited about The Little Mermaid, the rest seems a bit contrived. The new Beauty and the Beast restaurant looks good but is still only a restaurant, the current Snow White ride will be replaced by a Snow White rollercoaster, which if anything seems like a slightly different Barnstormer.
To be honest, everything else seems a bit half-arsed, the circus theme is just a re-hashed Toontown Fair, and the new meet and greet, well it's a meet and greet.
Compare this to what's happening at DCA with Cars Land and you can see the way this doesn't seem that exciting.
I think it is a great addition to WDW, but it wouldn't have quite the same effect at our own park... DLP had Disneyland's "new" Fantasyland with its storybook architecture from the start, unlike the Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland which was still dominated by medieval tournament tents. Now the focus ought to shift to the more appropriate fairy tale feel of these new structures.
Model from the D-23 Expo on Mousekingdom Blog here (//http://blog.mousekingdom.com/2011/08/19/d23-fantasyland-model/)!
InsidetheMagic posted a video of the model of the new expansion, along with some footage of the new Dwarfs ride from D23.
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and Disney Parks has a video of the ride from POV.
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And JeffLangeDVD posted a 4 minute 31 second video of the New Fantasyland model at the D23 Expo 2011, which you can watch in 720p HD on YouTube. Skip ahead to 1 minute 6 seconds to see the model:
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Here are a couple of photos from Flickr:
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Looks great. Good to see Disney still investing in their parks.
Check out this CGI animation of the Lumiere animatronic coming to the Enchanted Tales with Belle attraction. Now, call me cynical, but I really don't believe the animatronic will move exactly like this, particularly the eyebrows and the mouth. But Disney say it will:
Given how skinny and bendy the arms are, I imagine that Lumiere's candle hands will be supported and animated by black rods from behind him. The mechanics for his arms won't be internal, they'll be external.
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This looks fab i hope it comes to dlrp beauty and the beast is my fave film id love to see an attraction on it
Woah, if they can make it move as FLUIDLY as a "CGI" rendering then, that's just amazing. The animatronic's that were done for the Little Mermaid Ride were fantastic, sure the scale was different - but does seem really hopeful. I can't wait to see the final product (or work in progress)
Seeing this I can only dream the original planned 'Beauty and the Beast - Tiki Tiki room attraction' originaly planned in Fantasyland (near Nella Notte) will actually make it to DLRP some day. The animatronic of Lumiere looks amazing!
Quote from: "DGRavenswood"I think it is a great addition to WDW, but it wouldn't have quite the same effect at our own park... DLP had Disneyland's "new" Fantasyland with its storybook architecture from the start, unlike the Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland which was still dominated by medieval tournament tents. Now the focus ought to shift to the more appropriate fairy tale feel of these new structures.
I couldn´t agree more :thumbs: DLP´s Fantasyland is already amazing. The best one by far.
Gaston is currently roaming around France in the EPCOT World Showcase prior to the opening of the new self-named tavern at MK.
Anyone read about the new queueing system at Dumbo in WDW?
Quoting the blog:
This innovative queue area will completely redefine what it means for guests to prepare for a Disney attraction. Here's how it will work: Guests arrive at Dumbo's big top and receive a circus ticket pager that virtually holds their place and notifies them when it's their turn to board the attraction. Kids (and kids of all ages) can then become part of the show inside the tent by enjoying circus-themed play experiences, while Dumbo flies high above.
complete article with pictures here //http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2012/06/sneak-peek-kids-will-star-in-the-show-at-the-big-top-tent-at-dumbo-the-flying-elephant/
I'm really not keen at all on this addition. I know I harp on about what Walt would have wanted, but THIS is exactly the opposite of what he wanted;
When he was sitting on a bench watching his daughter play in a playground, he wanted to create a place where adults could join their children and have fun too. Look at this addition where kids can play while (and it even says it in the descriptions) adults can watch on and wait for their ride.
That is so un-Walt in every way, it's just a glorified pub playground in a tent, there is no interactive features for all to enjoy! The Haunted Mansion queue has got it right, Winnie the Pooh got it right and it looks like Big Thunder will too, but this really dropped the ball! There was a great opportunity to introduce circus themed midway games to pass the time, but sadly they opted for slides and netting.
I'm not that impressed, the rest of Fantasyland looks great, but this is more like something that would be a fantastic addition to Chessington than Disney to me.
Yeah, when Disney first started hyping up the new Dumbo the Flying Elephant ride, I remember them talking about its "interactive queue" and how it would be "next generation". It sounded really high-tech and exciting to me.
Now that we know more about it, it turns out it's just a big McDonald's-esque play area combined with a pager. And, as Scissorsboi pointed out, the attraction actively encourages parents to separate from their children, which is exactly the opposite of Walt's original concept for Disneyland!
Lots of things get added to the parks out in America that make me think "I wish we had that at Disneyland Paris". But Dumbo's new queue area isn't one of them. They can keep it :D
It couldn't have been what they originally had planned. Maybe they went over budget, or maybe the area would have required some cast members supervising and they didn't want the additional staff.
At least the pager was a good idea. We know how useful it is from Earl of Sandwich. :P
I'm not really sure what to think about the general attraction idea, but let's call it an interesting reimagining of the character experience. However, drop every thoughts about the attraction for now, because it seems like they weren't kidding with the motion of the Lumiere AA in the 'Enchanted Tales With Belle' attraction!!
This is really impressive - I guess they still know a thing or two about making kick a** AA's:
[youtube:4h06yyde]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PPoE-K9Eo&list=SP7C23A7E41055A9F9&index=1&feature=plcp[/youtube:4h06yyde]
From the Disney Parks Blog (//http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2012/08/first-look-lumiere-madame-wardrobe-welcome-you-to-enchanted-tales-with-belle-at-magic-kingdom-park/)
Visually the attraction looks stunning, the mirror effect, living character Wardrobe, incredible Lumiere and settings are fantastic. But the whole cardboard 'role' parts just feels cheap to me, and I hope they do some tweaking while it's play testing.
I'm not entirely sure I like the actual Belle storytime concept thing either, I'd assumed it'd be a sit down in a room, Belle tells a story and the room becomes enchanted and things happen as she speaks style attraction - this seems a little too "interactive" for me, and the childishness sort of puts me off seeing its massive positives with the visual impact!
Quote from: "Scissorsboi"Visually the attraction looks stunning, the mirror effect, living character Wardrobe, incredible Lumiere and settings are fantastic. But the whole cardboard 'role' parts just feels cheap to me, and I hope they do some tweaking while it's play testing.
I'm not entirely sure I like the actual Belle storytime concept thing either, I'd assumed it'd be a sit down in a room, Belle tells a story and the room becomes enchanted and things happen as she speaks style attraction - this seems a little too "interactive" for me, and the childishness sort of puts me off seeing its massive positives with the visual impact!
My thoughts exactly! The attraction concept is a bit too strictly for kids and the cardboards confoict with the otherwise breathtaking and innovative visual wrapping!
Regarding the mirror! Did you see when it transforms from the mirror hanging on the wall to the door you walk through? It's in another video! Brilliant! :)
They said they'd been working on this attraction for five years, and you can tell! It's a shame about the cardboard cut-outs, but I can't think of any alternatives.
The mirror effect is astounding, I don't even know how it works.. there's no seam in the wall below the mirror, or in the mirror itself. The stretching frame I assume is pushed out from the centre/pulled down similar to the Phantom Manor stretching portraits.
The only way I can figure the door is that when the lights dim the mirror slides down/up and the doorway is behind that.. it's a bafflingly well done effect!
Just got back from my first trip to Florida. It was great to finally visit another Disney resort, nothing like being to compare!
Anyway, one thing that I did find very strange, was the weird merge between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland. There is like no divide at all, and the Speedway runs right up in between the Teacups and Dumbo. I found it very strange to be honest. Its basically like standing in the same land, but with different themes.
I agree with Martyn, the divide between the two lands is really bad, just nothing between them. It felt very un-Disney to me, maybe I've just been to spoilt with Paris :P
I was one of the very lucky peeps that got to go into Enchanted Tales with Belle. OMG, that Mirror effect, my brain just can't compute how they've done it, it is simply the most magical thing I've ever seen.
Unfortunately for me I was picked to take part in the show, I don't do participation but you can't really say no, right? It was actually the most fun I've ever had, I can see how those cut-outs look cheap but there is no other practical way of doing it, unless you properly dressed everyone up which would just take too long. They were nice and lightweight to hold though, still a burden if you're a guard (like I was) as you actually stand there holding it for the entire thing.
I thought that it weirdly brought a huge group of peeps together and the cast members were amazing at keeping everyone in high spirits and having a good laugh. I got the feeling that people not chosen to take part may have been a bit disappointed about not getting their picture taken with Belle though, I can see some kids getting a bit too upset by this.
Still the details throughout the entire attraction are just amazing, such a fantastic addition to the park.
I want to visit New Fantasyland but I think it won't happen before 2015.
Yeah in 2015 the expansion will be complete with the new seven mine train attraction. I ve visited disneyworld 4 years ago and i cant wait to visit it again. Their has been so much changes around and the new fantasyland looks just awesome!