Disneytheque (//http://www.disneytheque.com) made a very surprising report. According to this site, WDS will receive 3 temporary fun fair style rides on the field behind The Art of Disney Animation. This would be for Mickey's birthday.
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Can this really be thrue? It's hard to believe, but when you look at Animal Kingdom for example, they have a 'fun fair' as well.
I really hope this won't be happening!
I've just read this myself, I'm not sure what to think of it. If it is true, how themed will they be? Is it really worth it? Make of it what you will. Below is a link and a copy of a translated version from Google translations:
QuoteJuly 19, 2008
From April 2009, the resort will live to the rhythm of 80 years of Mickey and on the 2 parks. Today, we offer you find some info on what awaits us.Even if we do not know all the festivities, we already know that Walt Disney Studios are hosting a new attraction: Playhouse Disney: Live on Stage and a new parade Disney's Stars' n 'Cars Event.
At the same time, the studios welcome 3 new attractions such funfair on the lawn between Studio Tram Tour and Toon Studio and on a temporary basis.Among these new thematic, we should find a great ride we call Surf Rider.On a circuit U-shaped, your board skate or surf, it depends on the theme, moves from one end to another. In addition to the movement carried out on track, turn on your seats themselves in the image of Crush's Coaster.The 2 other attractions, plus family, should be a parachute drop (as Jumpin Jellyfish to be found at Disney's California Adventure) and a flat ride.
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In parallel, Disneyland will host a new show on Central Plaza. To this end, a new scene, the greater will be installed and according to our information, it could be equipped with a system to climb and descend. On Main Street USA and the castle, decorations of course take place, but remain in line with what we know today for 15 years. The Disney Character Express stops between 2 and 3 weeks in late March to resume service in April under new colors, those of Mickey (yellow, white, red and black). Another idea to show planned at a time was to use one of the sternwheelers of the attraction Thunder Mesa Riverboat Landing located in Frontierland but this idea has perhaps been abandoned since ...
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hope this is true. when's it gonna happen. pre-sept. i hope [-o<
Pleeeease don't let this be true! :shock: Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. Not Disney at all!
I think the Imagineers have forgotten to take their medication.
Them rides look erm dangerous and slighty tacky.
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"hope this is true. when's it gonna happen. pre-sept. i hope [-o<
Are you serious?! No offend, but have your expectations of a Disney themepark sunk that low? :o
I never thought they would even dare to think about something like this. A sad day in Disney themepark history. Remember, if it would have been permanent flat rides with a themed environment (think Flying Carpets over Argrabah, Orbitron, Cars or Mad Hatters Teacups) we were talking about here, it would be fine... but this sounds just like a tacky fair! The ugly billboard is gone, but the tackiness comes right back at the other end of the park. Its Dinoland U.S.A. all over again.
By the way, the management claims on its coorporate website:
QuoteFor Guests big and small, Disneyland® Resort Paris is a place where they can immerse themselves in a story-based experience. With a whirl of the entrance turnstile, Guests are transported to a magical land where they can meet and interact with favorite Disney characters.
The story-based experience extends to all aspects of the park-even thrill rides. Storytelling starts before Guests even reach the attraction.
We strive to provide Guests with a quality Resort experience. Guests are coming in record numbers for the quality immersive experience for which Disney is known. Exceeding the expectations of our Guests continues to be a priority.
We have a great product, a magical product, a product that drives emotional connections. Our strategies and tactics are working, and we are focused on continuing to build momentum in our business.
How pathetic.
the way I see it, the more rides the better. yes, they do lok a bit tacky, but are they fun to go on ? If it isnt permanant, good, like a flavour of the month.
I remember when we went in 2004, there was a games convention in a giant white tent at the lake. Anything to do with Disney, no. Amusing for an hour or two, yes.
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"the way I see it, the more rides the better. yes, they do lok a bit tacky, but are they fun to go on ? If it isnt permanant, good, like a flavour of the month.
Quantity over quality, thats the true Disney spirit. :wink:
I don't expect it to be temporary, just look at the former billboard at the Walt Disney Studios entrance.
Please tell me this is not true!! This is not what Disney is about at all. Disney is a "Theme" park, not an "amusement" park. Where is the theming in this???
To be honest, this would actually put me off visiting the park. I would rather go without an attraction for a while, and save the money, then use it to create a Disney attraction. The park has a bad enough reputation, that it is slowly managing to loose. This not only takes it back to square one, but actually makes it worse than before.
I really hope this is just a rumour and never transpires :evil:
Quote from: "Maarten"Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"the way I see it, the more rides the better. yes, they do lok a bit tacky, but are they fun to go on ? If it isnt permanant, good, like a flavour of the month.
Quantity over quality, thats the true Disney spirit. :wink:
I don't expect it to be temporary, just look at the former billboard at the Walt Disney Studios entrance.
Maarten - sadly you and I are outmoded. In 20 years it will be toons and thrills don't you know ;-)
Quote from: "penfold12"Please tell me this is not true!! This is not what Disney is about at all. Disney is a "Theme" park, not an "amusement" park. Where is the theming in this???
To be honest, this would actually put me off visiting the park. I would rather go without an attraction for a while, and save the money, then use it to create a Disney attraction. The park has a bad enough reputation, that it is slowly managing to loose. This not only takes it back to square one, but actually makes it worse than before.
I really hope this is just a rumour and never transpires :evil:
I absolutely agree!
QuoteAt the same time, the studios welcome 3 new attractions such funfair on the lawn between Studio Tram Tour and Toon Studio and on a temporary basis.
Is there any plans for permanant rides at this location ? Could this be a
filler until the Imagineers get something together. WDS doesn't have many rides ( have never needed to spend a full day in it, in order to cover everything ) and with the extra attendance during the 15th anniversary, maybe someone decided on a temp solution. You want a theme, umm how about a Grease theme . Its a film, they have a funfair at the end. Sorted.
If it was permanant I wouldnt be happy. I wouldn't go as far as to say I would avoid DLRP for a while. Because you dont agree with one aspect of the park, it doesn't call for a total boycot. That's cutting your nose off to spite your face :|
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"QuoteIf it was permanant I wouldnt be happy. I wouldn't go as far as to say I would avoid DLRP for a while. Because you dont agree with one aspect of the park, it doesn't call for a total boycot. That's cutting your nose off to spite your face :|
Nope, I would boycott it. I have before and would again (I am currently boycotting WDW). I would go to DL or TDL instead.
QuoteI have before and would again (I am currently boycotting WDW)
sorry to ask, but I am unfamiliar with your problem with WDW. :?:
I won't go into too much detail ad nauseum, but the quality of the Magic Kingdom, the closing of Pleasure Island, the maintenance of the wave pool at typhoon lagoon causing it to close, the pay parties at the MK most weekends this year, the poor maintenance of AA's, the lack of cleanliness at the hotels (I stayed in a deluxe room in Animal Kingdom Lodge last time) andth woeful bus service is sooooo subpar compared to the quality of Disneyland and even Disneyland Paris.
I like quality experience, and that is what Disney used to offer (still does in California thank god) and Paris starts to get it right and vears off track every few years.
you've convinced me. I'm gonna go to the aforementioned field and start my own picket line !!! Just say Non :|
OK, where do I begin... :lol:
Just remember that whilst the attractions you see in the pictures above do look rather awful, generic travelling fair type rides, this is the "genesis" of most Disney attractions. Don't assume they won't get customised versions or add themeing in the way they turned Zamperla's hideous Destruction Derby into the superb and hugely popular Cars Quatre Roues Rallye. When these rumours first came to the surface (on DCP, where else), it seemed like it was Entertainment behind the plans. Now, it seems like it's really Imagineering. So that's our first relief.
It does smell a little like Mickey's Birthdayland... that temporary land that eventually became the permanent Toon Town Fair. Hearing that these rides would be "temporary" doesn't make sense to me. Disney don't do "temporary".
Just to clarify, since it's not very clear (especially for the third attraction) the three rumoured attractions seem to be:
- Paratower, by Vekoma (Same as Jumpin' Jellyfish at DCA and TDS)
- Halfpipe, by Intamin (Brand new to Disney)
- Music Express, by Mack (Same as Scuttle's Scooters at Tokyo DisneySea - yes, Tokyo, folks)
Now considering Disney already have two of those in other parks, I doubt they'd suddenly phone up Vekoma and Mack and say "hey, can we just get a basic one... yeah.. no themeing this time... yeah... add some of those tacky fairground lights, and primary colours... great, thanks". The Halfpipe will surely be
very popular with our coaster-loving European friends, and the others will add a huge amount of capacity for very little money. They might not be embellished as well as other attractions, but I don't reckon they'll be quite as bad as you're thinking.
But you know me, I'm quite optimistic. If they do arrive on the back of a truck....... :oops:
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Nope, I would boycott it. I have before and would again (I am currently boycotting WDW). I would go to DL or TDL instead.
Are Walt Disney World panicking yet? But seriously, I feel your pain. Literally EVERYTHING that WDI have planned for the next 5 years (bar one or two of the DCA improvements) are heavily Toon influenced. Maybe it's just a phase. I mean, very soon, they're going to actually RUN OUT of films to make rides about. This is just Iger/Rasulo's way of squeezing as much as possible out of the Disney back-catalogue. I don't think they're necessarily making
bad rides at the moment though. Far, far from it. They just seem scared to do something that's not already proven (ToT) or inspired by a film (Crush).
Three small rides like this are actually exactly what WDS needs. You can feel it in the park this Summer... It still desperately needs these filler attractions and places to walk around, especially if Crush keeps Fastpass and the crowds get bigger. Toon Studio could become a good alternative to Fantasyland. At the moment it's far too small. You've only got Carpets and Cars and then it suddenly stops. You see people walk through the gate at the back and suddenly stop, like "oh, that's it?".
But don't forget -- the rumours of a big Ratatouille E-Ticket attraction are still very much on the table for the 20th. I guess these would just be the entrées. :wink:
The biggest question for me is -- 2009?
Really? They'd dug all the foundations for Cars already at this point in 2006...
Right, now that Baloo has cleared some things up (thanks :wink: ) the main quetion now is what are they going to be themed on, and how themed will they actually be? Another question would be what land are they going to come under? Toon Studio or something else I take it.
Some of you may not like this, but at the end of the day, if they are pulled off well, they will be crowd pulling attractions that will not only add more things to the Studios, but will fill in the gap until Ratatouille. So it can't be that bad, can it?...
It's the words tempory and fair ground put together that set me off. If they were themed and given substance then maybe, and yeah theme them well and disguise that they are generic off the shelf amusement park rides. But I had/have visions of the fair when it ricks up in town on your local park...
Quote from: "penfold12"It's the words tempory and fair ground put together that set me off. If they were themed and given substance then maybe, and yeah theme them well and disguise that they are generic off the shelf amusement park rides. But I had/have visions of the fair when it ricks up in town on your local park...
Same here! I think we know how "themed" and satisfying Toon Town Fair at the MK WDW is. IMO you can clearly see that this place was planned to be tempory. And now it´s permanent and most people think that it´s one of the ugliest places in MK (always comlaining that they haven´t a real Toon Town as Disneyland California).
Fair ground means to me and odd not soooo much themed place like the Primeval Whirl at Animal Kingdom. For the attractions I must say it´s a bit sad for me.
Especially this Halfpipe-thing isn´t very impressive. Every litte amusement/theme park in germany has a similar attraction. It´s one of this thing they build to say "we have something like a coaster" but you really see and know that it was just a low budget decision. It´s really nothing that should be an attraction for disney. I say it again: Every little low budget and low themed amusement park has a similar thing here. It looks in every appearance cheap and ugly for me. But if you don´t wanna have a theme park and just a amusement corner it should be ok. :P :mrgreen:
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(source: intamin: //http://www.ridetrade.com/rti/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=37)The Paratower could be good or worse. That is a real theming thing. If it´s just the fair-theme it could look unbelievable ugly.
Same for the music express.
All three attractions aren´t very impressive. Could be ok with a big theme but the words tempory and fair ground doesn´t seem to say: Let the theme come in! The must also connect the theme in any way. That could also be a big point. Hope they don´t make a big step back with all this.
The interesting point is, that they take music express from Mack. Mack is the owner of Europa Park Germany and Europa Park is a very well theme park that get its german vistors easily. (Maybe because they make advertise and that longer then just 3 weeks. And of course they say what they have at this adverts and not like DLRP that hasn´t advert TOT till now in germany :( )
So I´m more skeptical but I hope I get surprised in a positive way :mrgreen:
In my opinion this is the worst idea yet for DLRP. I really think it makes the old Studio 1 billboard look good. :o
These fun fair rides are going to look horrible, I have pretty much no doubt about that. Can you imagine it? From all over the resort you're going to be able to see the two huge towers of the halfpipe coaster and also the paratower sticking up into the sky. It really will be an eyesore. I doubt they'll be themed well either - What's the point if they're only temporary? They may have a little theming, yes. But not enough to make them look permanent. It would probably be quite a challenge to theme such ugly fun fair rides anyway. :roll:
I'm also wondering how the rides will fit on to that piece of land behind AODA. I would have thought that only one of them would fit there, but all three?! That area of the park will feel horribly cramped if they are all going there. Too many rides in one place if you ask me. Toon Studio is already the busiest part of the park! They've also got to fit in the queues for each ride which will take up more space. Those halfpipe coasters have very low capacity, so the queues for it on a busy day will be huge. :shock:
The only ride that could possibly look alright in that space is the music express. It's not very big (unlike the other two) so won't give such a cramped, closed in sort of feeling in the area. I can actually imagine a ride of that sort going there permanently.
It's just the paratower and halfpipe I'm worried about. They don't fit there at all. They'll create such a horrible non-Disney atmosphere.
Come on DLRP! You've got to realise that this is DISNEY! Not Six Flags! :!: What happened to the Disney that designed our beautiful Disneyland Park back in 1992?
Quote from: "RnRCj"Come on DLRP! You've got to realise that this is DISNEY! Not Six Flags! :!: What happened to the Disney that designed our beautiful Disneyland Park back in 1992?
Well said!!! =D> Sadly that Disney that many of us fell in love with seems to be dead (unless the Japanese pay for it).
Currently I don't see what the problem is, yes character ride again, but lets not forget the idea of rides gets people in :wink: . I can't see dlrp making them terrible, yes they wont be amazing, but if this does happen I feel they will theme it enough to toon studio to work. Plus this along with ToT and stitch should keep people visiting for a few years. So for now I am not agreeing its an amazing idea, nor disagreeing its the end of brilliant imagineering at Disneyland Paris.
I can't be optimistic about this at all. While they could theme these rides up to the max and do some damage control in that area, the location is just wrong wrong wrong. The park is randomly enough laid out as it is, it does not need a fun fair section located right next to Hollywood Boulevard and Art of Disney Animation. Gah.
And indeed, don't fall for this "temporary" thing. Temporary on the timeline of human evolution, maybe.
I'm also very skeptical about it. But why is there a need to do something like this?? Wouldn't it be better if Disney would use the money for something else?
I don't think there is a need to bring new things to the park every 2 months or so.
I don't think that it would attract more visitors or that it would be a reason for people to come back.
Quote from: "pussinboots"I can't be optimistic about this at all. While they could theme these rides up to the max and do some damage control in that area, the location is just wrong wrong wrong. The park is randomly enough laid out as it is, it does not need a fun fair section located right next to Hollywood Boulevard and Art of Disney Animation. Gah.
And indeed, don't fall for this "temporary" thing. Temporary on the timeline of human evolution, maybe.
Yep, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Peril was supposed to be temporary until Space Mountain came on line. Instead they cloned it at TDS!!!! This is not good at all.
I can go to crummy Alton Towers for that sort of junk!!!
The music express at TDR works as Scuttles Scooter, because it is themed, permenant and in a very rich themed area, meaning it no long appears to be the basic music express. Smilar to the theming of off the shelf rides used for cars and crush in WDS. A temp, fair ground style however is totaly different situation. I felt that one of the greatest additions to WDS was the Hollywood Bld area. Not an attraction, just theming, and yet as good as any attraction. It added depth to the park, & I would rather more of that than increasing ride numbers by downgrading the theming by adding off the shelf rides for a short time
Please, relax! Don't rush to early conclusions. The Imagineers are NOT making the same mistakes they made in 2002.
All future attractions at WDS (and DLP for that matter) will be permanent and well themed!!!!!!!!!!!! Period. No matter what Disneytheque says. I can't go into detail because I don't know anything more, but I can say that none of the projects beyond Playhouse Disney have been approved yet. Don't expect anything new next year besides Playhouse Disney & Stars 'n' Cars Event.
Thank you Raptor, I can sleep easier now =D>
This thread is certainly bringing out the passion for the studios in people....
Quote from: "raptor1982"Please, relax! Don't rush to early conclusions. The Imagineers are NOT making the same mistakes they made in 2002.
All future attractions at WDS (and DLP for that matter) will be permanent and well themed!!!!!!!!!!!! Period. No matter what Disneytheque says. I can't go into detail because I don't know anything more, but I can say that none of the projects beyond Playhouse Disney have been approved yet. Don't expect anything new next year besides Playhouse Disney & Stars 'n' Cars Event.
*Huge sigh of relief*
I really was starting to lose faith in DLRP for a sec there. :oops: I thank you for bringing us that wonderful piece of information, oh mighty God of Disney. :wink: