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Title: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: bmw1992 on July 07, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Is it true Dlrp are making an animal kingdom?
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: RnRCj on July 07, 2008, 09:04:22 PM
Quite simply:

No.

:)
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: dlrp-mad on July 07, 2008, 09:51:20 PM
Well this would be news to me. As far as I know, there are definitley no plans to build an Animal Kingdom park - there isn't space!

I heard there were plans to build some sort of park in Spain, but that would be silly - 2 parks in Europe is not going to happen!

dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Kristof on July 07, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
This should clarify:

1. A third park will not be build the next 10 years.  Although the agreement with France calls for a third park in 2012 I believe, Euro Disney SCA is not going to meet that requirement and they're going to start renegotiating the agreement very soon.

2. An Epcot-style park was imagined in 1992 as third gate.

3. There is PLENTY of space to put a third park.  There's a large field next to Newport Bay Club that is marked as expansion area for another park.
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: dlrp-mad on July 07, 2008, 10:13:49 PM
True, however those fields are quite small in comparison to the areas used to build the California Adventure, Epcot and Animal Kingdom Parks. Plus, in my humble opinion, Europe doesn't have the climate for an Epcot and especially not for an Animal Kingdom! Sheesh, poor wildlife.

dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Kristof on July 07, 2008, 10:21:24 PM
QuoteEurope doesn't have the climate for an Epcot

Lol why not??  :lol:

Quoteespecially not for an Animal Kingdom! Sheesh, poor wildlife.

It could work out actually!  I'm sure Imagineering is creative enough to create special compounds for the animals during the winter.  

QuoteTrue, however those fields are quite small in comparison to the areas used to build the California Adventure, Epcot and Animal Kingdom Parks.

Let me look up the expansion plan.  Weird you list DCA, they had a very limited space to use because of the close proximity of the neighbouring hotels and convention centre. This is not the case at DLRP.  They can go into any direction.  Existing roads can easily be diverted.
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Captain Pan on July 07, 2008, 10:38:37 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"This should clarify:

1. A third park will not be build to first 10 years.  Although the agreement with France calls for a third park in 2012 I believe, Euro Disney SCA is not going to meet that requirement and they're going to start renegotiating the agreement very soon.

2. An Epcot-style park was imagined in 1992 as third gate.

3. There is PLENTY of space to put a third park.  There's a large field next to Newport Bay Club that is marked as expansion area for another park.

Now I've read this somewhere before... think it was on another forum... But they were flagging it up as a due date the same as the Contractual agreements with the French Govt with the number of Rooms to be available owned/run by Disney by year X... But I can't remember the year for it.

On the same forum they were flagging the idea of Animal Kingdom too which although a nice idea I say wouldn't and couldn't work due to the Climate in Europe, and I posted what I believed to be an unique idea of an EPCOT styled gate with an aim to focus the EU as its more relevant for the Resort being within Europe.... along with the pavilions for thew US and possibly the old British and French Empires!

And as this comes out of the mouth of Raptor I'm feeling all tingly with the ideas of a further gate... but hope the focus is to continue to expand the Studios before adding more options for us
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Malin on July 07, 2008, 11:02:53 PM
I had always thought the third park was going to be a indoor water park. In fact I've spoken to people inside the company about this before.
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: dlrp-mad on July 07, 2008, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: "Malin"I had always thought the third park was going to be a indoor water park. In fact I've spoken to people inside the company about this before.

Oooh, sounds interesting! An indoor version of Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach would be really good  :D/

Quote from: "Captain Pan"I believed to be an unique idea of an EPCOT styled gate with an aim to focus the EU as its more relevant for the Resort being within Europe.... along with the pavilions for thew US and possibly the old British and French Empires!

That sounds even more interesting. The idea of an EPCOT would be great. A nice British/French empire pavillion would be great for Europe. Far better than an Animal Kingdom. As you said, I just don't think Europe has the climate for it! Not even the imagineers can overcome nature!

dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Kristof on July 07, 2008, 11:09:07 PM
Quote from: "Malin"I had always thought the third park was going to be a indoor water park. In fact I've spoken to people inside the company about this before.

It's probably one of the many ideas they have/had.  If you're talking about Lava Lagoon, that was actually a small addition for the Disney Hotel guests only and not considered as a hard ticket park.


Quotebut hope the focus is to continue to expand the Studios before adding more options for us

I agree, and in fact, that will happen... soon?!  :wink:

Quote from: "dlrp-mad"As you said, I just don't think Europe has the climate for it! Not even the imagineers can overcome nature!

Again, why not??!!  It's so funny to read, considering they managed to build (successfully) a Magic Kingdom and Studios styled theme parks.  :lol:

Edit: here's that expansion map.
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/324/dl ... ons5hq.jpg (http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/324/dlpetextensions5hq.jpg%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)

Plenty of room huh???  :wink:
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Captain Pan on July 07, 2008, 11:22:07 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"
Quotebut hope the focus is to continue to expand the Studios before adding more options for us

I agree, and in fact, that will happen... soon?!  :wink:
Are you holding Cards close to your chest there Raptor?
Quote from: "raptor1982"
Quote from: "dlrp-mad"As you said, I just don't think Europe has the climate for it! Not even the imagineers can overcome nature!

Again, why not??!!  It's so funny to read, considering they managed to build (successfully) a Magic Kingdom and Studios styled theme parks.  :lol:
I agree with the idea that Disney Imagineers can do anything, I just have the small reservation that due to the European Climate (although it is getting warmer) an Animal Kingdom would not be as grand as the Orlando counterpart and more like a city zoo like that of Bristol or a much better Edinburgh Zoo...WAIT somehow they did it in Edinburgh (The Lions were so Pretty and So were the Zebras in the Snow!), just maybe the Imagineers could do it for Paris but I'm still reserved about the Animal Kingdom being another Zoo, although Greater than a normal Zoo!
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Krollok on July 07, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
So does Disney own this entire circle?
Or do they buy it piece by piece?
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Kellogs on July 07, 2008, 11:33:58 PM
Quote from: "dlrp-mad"in my humble opinion, Europe doesn't have the climate for an Epcot and especially not for an Animal Kingdom! Sheesh, poor wildlife.

dlrp-mad :mickey2:

Thing is, in England we have West Midlands Safair Park, which features many of the animals that roam around Animal Kingdom, and the climate here in the UK is not the best, but somehow these animals survive just fine in their surroundings, that are nowhere near the level of Animal Kingdom, resembling a field in all honesty.

I think it could work just fine, especially with Disney Imagineering.
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Kristof on July 07, 2008, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: "Krollok"So does Disney own this entire circle?
Or do they buy it piece by piece?

Yes Krollok, all ground within the circle (and even large chunks outside of it) is Disney property.

QuoteThing is, in England we have West Midlands Safair Park, which features many of the animals that roam around Animal Kingdom, and the climate here in the UK is not the best, but somehow these animals survive just fine in their surroundings, that are nowhere near the level of Animal Kingdom, resembling a field in all honesty.

I think it could work just fine, especially with Disney Imagineering.

It's not just in the UK, you can find these kind of parks all over Europe.  There's a great one in Holland called De Beekse Bergen.  

I really think the idea could work if they add more attractions and shows, however, I'm very reserved about it in DLRP.  I would rather see them explore other ideas.
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: -breeno- on July 07, 2008, 11:41:14 PM
QuoteEdit: here's that expansion map.
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/324/dl (http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/324/dl%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;) ... ons5hq.jpg

Is that an official expansion plan or just an idea?  I've deffiantly seen it before somewhere.
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Kristof on July 08, 2008, 12:04:19 AM
The information comes from the official plans, which obviously can't be posted online.  :D
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Nicholas-c on July 08, 2008, 12:09:42 AM
to be honest i dont want a third park. 2 (3, including village) parks right next to each other cant really beat that ? (infact, people are only just discovering the studios)

if they had a third (or 4th :P) park it would be out the way a little
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: dlrp-mad on July 08, 2008, 12:48:03 AM
After going away and looking out of my yorkshire window, I think that Disney could pull off an Animal Kingdom in Paris. As you so rightly said Raptor, what are our imagineers for???? I'm sure Paris would benefit from an Animal Kingdom Park and after looking at GoogleEarth for a brief hawk-eye view (though I must admit, needs updating) It would be perfectly plausible to build the expansions (in the plan). It would be great to see another park added to the resort.

dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: evil cod on July 09, 2008, 02:34:41 PM
Had a minuite to spare so thought I would create a map with the extension plan (from the linked image) on google maps so it was easier for me to see :) If this is any use for anyone else to help visualise it heres the link:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8& ... 37594&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&t=h&msid=101080877064936319632.0004519658379da298964&ll=48.864602,2.788811&spn=0.018661,0.037594&z=15%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Title: Re: Animal kingdom
Post by: Epcot_Boy on July 09, 2008, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"2. An Epcot-style park was imagined in 1992 as third gate.


Did some one say "Epcot" :?:  [-o<  :lol:  :wink:

Epcot_Boy :ears:
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Clarebelle on July 09, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
lol. but wouldnt that take away from how special Epcot is? thats the whole reason why we plan to go to florida! do we really want another?
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: dlrp-mad on July 11, 2008, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: "Clarebelle"...thats the whole reason why we plan to go to florida! do we really want another?

I think it would be great to see an Epcot in the Disneyland Paris Resort. Whenever we've been to Florida it's been for the atmosphere and fabulous sunny weather :D! I think that an Epcot in the Paris resort will allow an update for the Epcot-style vision that Walt had. It would be a great way to look at things we see as the future - fantastic!

dlrp-mad :mickey2:
Title: Re: Third park: Animal kingdom?
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 11, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
Why would the climate affect the chances of an Animal Kngdom ? I live in Ireland, and our climate is unpredictable to say the least, but we have zoo's with all manner of tropical animals : Elephants, Giraffes, Tigers, Lemurs, Penguins etc.