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If the French government help out, it sounds like it may happen!
Still not sure how I feel about it. :|
Quote from: "anthony2k6"Still not sure how I feel about it. :|
I'm a little skeptical... Is it going to be built on the property?
I hope it doesn't come to light... But I think that's mainly cause I don't like F1
I assume it will be a street style circuit somewhere/somehow rather than building a whole new track from scratch.
I think it would be a good idea to host a Formula 1 racing. It is just one weekend a year and imagine the advertisement for DLRP. Formula 1 racings are very popular in Europe, so maybe many people will come to the resort.
Quote from: "dagobert"I think it would be a good idea to host a Formula 1 racing. It is just one weekend a year and imagine the advertisement for DLRP. Formula 1 racings are very popular in Europe, so maybe many people will come to the resort.
Exactly! I would love it!
But my downside is how and where? Will it be build as a whole new circuit? Is it nearby DLRP or really at DLRP? Won't this be just a onetimer and then in the future there's a circuit laying around...
Surely love the idea, but i also hope that they do it with quality, make it special and also a circuit which isn't only a parade of f1 cars!!
Quote from: "Soap"Won't this be just a onetimer and then in the future there's a circuit laying around...
Surely love the idea, but i also hope that they do it with quality, make it special and also a circuit which isn't only a parade of f1 cars!!
Hopefully it won't be just a parade for the F1 cars... but they could turn it into a themed Go Kart track for the other 50 weeks of the year... or is that a bit lame?
I am a motorsport fan, and this would be the perfect holiday for me! Disney and F1 combined.
However I don't think it would happen.
1) Bernie Ecclestone (he who runs F1) would rather a Paris street track
2) Motosport people call unchallenging circuits and corners "a bit Mickey Mouse), the F1 community would ridicule the whole concept, particularly if the mouse was to make an appearance.
3) The hotels would be fully occupied instantly. Prices would go through the roof. As an example I go to Silverstone (British Grand Prix circuit) a lot. Although I live 30 minutes away my family and I often camp at nearby Whittlebury Hall. Non Grand Prix Weekends campsite fees are £10 to £20 per weekend. Grand Prix for the same facilities is costing me £140. Whittlebury Hall hotel normally charges £120 per night, GP weekend increase to £520 for the same room.
4) F1 would demand far too much infrastructure, look at the upcoming Singapore Night race.
So, exciting though it would be, it is also a poisoned challace.
If it is a purpose built FIA grade 1 licensed track then WTCC, F3, FIA GT A1GP would all use it.
From what i have read since it was first annouced its not going to be AT disney it will be near disney at a currently existing race track, i will try and find a source on this but i dont tend to save links :P
There are no exisiting race circuits of suitable international standard in France except Paul Ricard, Magny Cours and La Sarthe (Le Mans).
Paul Ricard (only used for testing) is near Marseille and Magny Cours is near Nevers.
The nearest race track to DLP (Circuit Jean-Pierre Beltoise ) is Kart racing and will not be upgradable.
F1 is a major enterprise, turning over more than the Walt Disney Company. Any circuit to be created will be designed by Herman Tilke, the man who creates all of the new tracks, this will also be true if the roads of Disney or Paris are closed for a race.
F1 charges a circuit for the privilege of holding a race, so Disney would be well advised to stay clear of paying for a facility. (Silverstone pays £19million a year for the race, its only income is from tickets sales, all other revenue goes to Formula One Management) This means that the race only just breaks even.
Any new facility would have to be built and paid for by the government. Hence why it would likely to be a street race (using existing roads).
its difficult to see where they can even find a suitable collection of roads though as there are so many roundabouts at dlrp!
would be kinda weird seeing an F1 car go round a roundabout!
The hairpin at Casino Square is exceptionally tight! An F1 car will happily perform the turn! The roads around DLP would be fine, the problem lies with the rest of the infrastructure and who will pay.
I must say, I´m a bit sceptical. I´m not a big F1 fan so seeing some races at DLRP would for me an issue to not go at this time. Maybe it would be a cause for me watching it at TV to see some shots of DLRP.
On the other hand it def. would fill the hotels. But that mustn´t have a totally win for the parks. Mainly there would be F1 Fans that doesn´t mean that they are also disney fans. So it could happen, that the hotels are full but the parks not in the same way. The spend per guests wouldn´t be high in this case.
And remember the big "Don´t cross this line - backstage - vip - areas". If I pay for DLRP I want to have my freedom.
Building a new racing track at DLRP is for me an absolute NO. Taking the routes around the resort would be ok. You can stay away if you aren´t a fan like me and must not see a mostly unused track near the magic for the rest of the year (maybe with some testing noise or other races on it while I try to get in the magic). Also some permanent bleachers could destroy my magic feelings :( .
So take your F1 weekend at the existing routes around DLRP but stay away with your tarmac, noise and fences for the rest of the year. :mrgreen:
Perhaps they will use Autopia :wink:
:lol: yes and they allot which car someone gets. So the winner is determined before the race :lol: First Car in the row = First place :lol:
But they'd clog up the ride all day with thier 68 lap races!! :P
Maybe they can start this on Main Street and race around DLP and WDSP for 68 laps....
Quote from: "WilliamK99"Maybe they can start this on Main Street and race around DLP and WDSP for 68 laps....
But that way your going to effectively close down the entire Park for a week... and with the driving of Certain drivers your leaving the park to experience Crashes and risk dammages which would be above the cost to put the event on.
Sorry, I meant for it to be a joke lol... :lol:
I´m not sure if it could work for Disney. I´m not big F1 fan. But from my point of view these points could speak against the project:
- waste of land for only a few events a year
- it absolutley doesn´t fit in the whole disney-themeing area
- the noise for the hotel guests
- the hotels already have a great operating grade.
- tickets for F1 are expensive. Do people really spend time after the race at the hotels and the parks?
these points could speak for the project:
- very good advertisement
- generate new guests for the park and the resorts
- a third gate won´t come the next years!
My gut feeling tells me not to built it. For me its not Disney. Sure, there have always been cars and races at Disney-Parks. For example: Test Track. But thats a great piece of fun and imagineering. A F1 track makes the area not very magical
Well the track is only gonna be there for about 10 years, i believe the land is still reserved for the third park but the resort has not enough money to invest in a third park now and it's not they're first priority. Plus they had to complete build all it's ground by a certain year, this way Disney doesn't have to risk by rushing a third park and has more time to design and make money to invest in a third park. So to say Disney doesn't need anything magical or something they just need a space saver for the third park.
Quote from: "mehdi5"Well the track is only gonna be there for about 10 years, i believe the land is still reserved for the third park but the resort has not enough money to invest in a third park now and it's not they're first priority. Plus they had to complete build all it's ground by a certain year, this way Disney doesn't have to risk by rushing a third park and has more time to design and make money to invest in a third park. So to say Disney doesn't need anything magical or something they just need a space saver for the third park.
Right. It could truly be a space saver. But I think such an area of concrete destroys the overall magic.
On this subject... did anyone watch the F1 pre-show last weekend ? Bernie ecelstone said "spots in europe are still being decided and one we are looking at is near disneyland paris" or something like that. Its still possible ;)
F1 would only be 1 weekend a year, starting thursday ending sunday bring BIG crowds to disney
The investment required would be huge. The british grand prix is being moved from my local circuit (silverstone) to Donington :cry: :cry:
Donington are having to invest £100 million merely to improve their (admittedly poor) facilities.
Who on earth would pay? It would need to be government supported and there in lies all kinds of problems.
A private invester or investers? That is one set of rich people. The best way to make a small fortue in F1 is to start with a large one!
That said, if it happens, I will so be there!!!