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Title: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Japper on May 06, 2008, 08:56:20 PM
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Check out this plan from the WDS found on disneyandmore.blogspot.com!
You can see a lot from this.. one thing is for sure, that Soarin' indeed fits into the space between cinemagique and disney channel!
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Riebi on May 06, 2008, 09:25:20 PM
Wow! The buildings looks much closer then 2002. And a fountain! How wonderful! Some style in 2000! Hope the actual studios are getting this kind of a closer look soon!
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Kristof on May 06, 2008, 09:25:58 PM
It has never been a question if it will fit.  I've told many times before that an Imagineer working on the placemaking projects had confirmed to me that Soarin' was designed to fit between those 2 buildings. It's just a matter of "if" / "when" it will be build.

The plan is actually from around 2004 and was made by Peter McGrath, ordered by André Lacroix.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Riebi on May 06, 2008, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"It has never been a question if it will fit.  I've told many times before that an Imagineer working on the placemaking projects had confirmed to me that Soarin' was designed to fit between those 2 buildings. It's just a matter of "if" / "when" it will be build.

The plan is actually from around 2004 and was made by Peter McGrath, ordered by André Lacroix.


Oh 2004! So the chances for my fountain and a closer look seems a bit higher :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Remco K. on May 06, 2008, 09:45:34 PM
Also interesting: on this plan, the Partners statue is gone! You would expect it to be relocated, and not just removed.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: pussinboots on May 06, 2008, 11:34:15 PM
Wow, how ambitious. I suppose Soarin' and the hub expansion are still possible... But, well, you know.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Anthony on May 07, 2008, 11:36:21 AM
It must be so hard working for Imagineering in Paris. Even tougher than it is to be an impatient fan.

First of all... wow! It really exists, the legendary plan! :shock:

It's good to know they tried other ideas for the Studios expansion, but I think ultimately what we've got now (even if it's much smaller than this here) is actually far better. The plan doesn't show any Hollywood boulevard, no exceptionally themed Toon Studio expansion... We might only have half a park now (which the Hollywood backdrop really makes clear, it's like the park is sliced in two), but it's a much better beginning than they even hoped for a few years earlier.

Few great things that WDI have considered -- putting buildings on the two courtyards. YES!! The Studios is actually quite big, but those two massive, open, boring courtyards make it seem so much smaller. The hub with a fountain is obviously brilliant. Soarin' actually looks tiny in that slot and has more space in front of it than I'd thought. And the whole scheme of the park leading toward the hub is very good.

Strange to see a building with "Sony" written on it. A partner-that-never-was?

Peter McGrath was just recently promoted to Vice President of Creative Development at WDI in Burbank. Very good news for WDI. I hope whoever has replaced him in Paris is as eager to see the Studios grow as this.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: davewasbaloo on May 07, 2008, 12:02:44 PM
Am I missing something? It seems like you guys are getting excited about something that is very minorly different to what we have now (yes ToT is better than a LK theatre), but with the exception of Soarin' and a fountain, this layout is essentially what we have now.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Kristof on May 07, 2008, 12:08:30 PM
The rest of the plan actually shows ToT with Sunset Blvd. leading towards it.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: lil-shawn on May 07, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
QuoteThe rest of the plan actually shows ToT with Sunset Blvd. leading towards it.

hmm it woul´d be very nice to se the rest of this old plan. but maybe we never will se it  :(
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: pussinboots on May 07, 2008, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Am I missing something? It seems like you guys are getting excited about something that is very minorly different to what we have now (yes ToT is better than a LK theatre), but with the exception of Soarin' and a fountain, this layout is essentially what we have now.

Wel, the map is cut off and implies significant northbound expansion, as well as several new buildings wedged in between the existing ones. With a little imagination as to how these additions would look from street level, it could be a pretty nice park.

It could also have meant a more properly thought out location for the ToT.

By the way, note how he misspelled "Soarin'", haha.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: davewasbaloo on May 07, 2008, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: "pussinboots"
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Am I missing something? It seems like you guys are getting excited about something that is very minorly different to what we have now (yes ToT is better than a LK theatre), but with the exception of Soarin' and a fountain, this layout is essentially what we have now.

Wel, the map is cut off and implies significant northbound expansion, as well as several new buildings wedged between the existing ones. With a little imagination as to how these additions would look from street level, it could be a pretty nice park.

It could have also meant a more properly thought out location for the ToT.

By the way, note how he misspelled "Soarin'", haha.

I thought at DCA everything tended to have an apostrophe rather than spelling it out.

also I was referring to the context of this pic.  WDSP has plenty of room to grow.  The future does indeed have a lot of potential, especially as it only fills 35% of the pad currently.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: pussinboots on May 07, 2008, 02:01:43 PM
Yes, but he spelled it "Sorin". I know, I'm awful.

And yes, the park still has lots of potential, I suppose. That's the good thing about building only 15% of a theme park at opening.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Whoknew? on May 07, 2008, 09:09:53 PM
Mh, brilliant plan. i would have loved it to se a more narrow gateway to production courtyard with buildings on each site and i hope we will get something like this when the theatre district placemaking will start. an the fountain is an absolute must have  :D/
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Timbo on May 08, 2008, 02:25:31 AM
The thing I noticed from this plan is how many trees there are,seems like way more than there really are ? ! And yes , a fountain would be great !
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: pussinboots on May 08, 2008, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Timbo"The thing I noticed from this plan is how many trees there are,seems like way more than there really are ? ! And yes , a fountain would be great !

It's a plan, so they aren't there yet.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Timbo on May 11, 2008, 01:56:34 AM
I did realise it was a plan ! :wink: I'm sure it is meant to show attractions rather than plants,thought it was interesting that the park looked more densely planted than how it ended up !! I always think the landscaping makes a huge difference to an area , as they have done in the Village.And of course a lot cheaper than building a new ride !
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: murkai on June 16, 2008, 08:37:13 PM
Does anyone have the rest of these plans? It certainly looks interesting! Glad they chose ToT over Lion King though. :D
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Captain Pan on June 17, 2008, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: "Baloo"Strange to see a building with "Sony" written on it. A partner-that-never-was?

Well I wouldn't Say that Baloo... I've spent the last 15months selling PS3's in the Ground Basis that the Creation of 'Disney Blu Ray' and Disney's exclusive contract with Sony to produce movies in HD ONLY on Blu Ray...
Quote from: "Pan In Work"If you wanted to watch the latest Pixar Release in HD You'd need the PS3 as it is a Home Entertainment System in a Box... Whilst the 360 has the Vast Library of Games the PS3 has this power that along with Disney to Captivate the audience and Place you in Paris and have you eat Mcqueen's Dust and Shut the Kids Up

But Back to Topic... Its So Pretty... I'm already having palpations!!
So Its just a matter of finances then, and allowing a settling time period for TOT & Stitch Live and when they come through Narnia and Playhouse Disney before we see further details of this plan come to life?
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2004
Post by: Kristof on June 17, 2008, 12:29:06 AM
This plan will never happen.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Clarebelle on June 17, 2008, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: "Remco K."Also interesting: on this plan, the Partners statue is gone! You would expect it to be relocated, and not just removed.

I'll take it off their hands for them! it would look nice in my garden!

I LOVE that statue, they wouldnt get rid of it would they?
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: mehdi5 on June 23, 2008, 10:16:22 PM
Quote from: "Clarebelle"
Quote from: "Remco K."Also interesting: on this plan, the Partners statue is gone! You would expect it to be relocated, and not just removed.

I'll take it off their hands for them! it would look nice in my garden!

I LOVE that statue, they wouldnt get rid of it would they?
I sure hope now, to me it's a very special statue, although at the beginning i didn't like it's place in the studios and thought it belonged on the central plaza of the Disneyland Park.
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Clarebelle on June 24, 2008, 08:29:14 AM
Quote from: "mehdi5"
Quote from: "Clarebelle"
Quote from: "Remco K."Also interesting: on this plan, the Partners statue is gone! You would expect it to be relocated, and not just removed.

I'll take it off their hands for them! it would look nice in my garden!

I LOVE that statue, they wouldnt get rid of it would they?
I sure hope now, to me it's a very special statue, although at the beginning i didn't like it's place in the studios and thought it belonged on the central plaza of the Disneyland Park.

It would be perfect for central plaza! but I do like where it is now ... i think :?:
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Anthony on June 24, 2008, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: "Clarebelle"It would be perfect for central plaza! but I do like where it is now ... i think :?:
Well of course it's on Central Plaza in every other park except Hong Kong, which doesn't have it at all.

Some people were really horrified when they saw it in WDS back in 2002 but since the park is named after him, it fits more perfectly than even Central Plaza. Hopefully the old joke of Walt pointing to the exit can now be thought more along the lines of Walt standing at the end of Hollywood Blvd, pointing to Studio 1 (based on his Hyperion Studio, "the studio that Mickey built"), saying "look what we did, little guy".
Title: Re: Plan of WDS from 2000
Post by: Clarebelle on June 24, 2008, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: "Baloo"
Quote from: "Clarebelle"It would be perfect for central plaza! but I do like where it is now ... i think :?:
Well of course it's on Central Plaza in every other park except Hong Kong, which doesn't have it at all.

lol I just think it would be perfect with our castle behind it and a sneek peek of fantasyland thats all
Quote"the studio that Mickey built"), saying "look what we did, little guy".

awwww!! i love that, that sounds perfect when its put like that, but still, It would look better in my garden  :lol: