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It's from a dutch forum, but the picture makes it clear ;)
I think a very good idea and surely soon spread over the parcs!
I dont get it!
What is exactly the difference? There is going to be another q for the single riders?
Translated part by Babelfish ;-)
A new phenomenon in Paris, but in American parks for years a success: the single Riders Line. It is very simple: if you will do an attraction on your own (one person), then you will stand in the special single Riders file. If there then is a group of three standing in line, not a train with an empty chair goes the job, but it's you that will fill the empty chair. Result: you are yourself faster to the turn and the park uses optimum of the ride capacity. As yet the single Rider has been active only at Indiana Jones and the Temple or Peril, but undoubtedly at good experiences rapidly will be extended...!
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I kind of thought that would be the idea and I agree it's a good one. In the past it has been a bit frustrating to stand in a long queue for a ride and see what appear to be half empty cars going by.
Those are still tests.
Well, I hope the tests work! This is something I'm surprised they didn't try years ago.
Well done for trying it out DLRP. :)
works well in florida and california , the only oddity being that it actually makes more sense to join the single riders line on everest and alternate between it and fastpass as you inevitably end up on the same train and often or not actually sat together (go figure).. This was up and running over christmas in paris on IJ. How about crush next, every other vehicle leaves with an empty seat which is a ridiculous 25% unused capacity..
Well... I still dont get it!!
Is the one rider queue in the same line of the normal queue or in the fastpass queue?
I was hoping that it was already in full flow. I've seen the WDW single riders lines. and it seemed to work like the fast pass. As in the normal queue would let about 10 people through followed by a hand full of single riders. OR when a party of 3 get shoved on a ride with seat of 2s then a single rider gets in aswell.
I'm planning on going this year with my wife and baby. I'd thought about using the single rider queue and swapping the baby out instead of the usual queue and baby swap routine.
BUT if they havent got them on the rides fully yet, I mamybe shouldn't have typed the last couple of lines. :oops:
they have used this system for a few years now at alton towers and each year the park opens the single person que is added to another or ride or more, its a really good idea if theres only one of you who wants to go on a certain ride so your not waiting goodness knows how long in a normal que
Quote from: "skalos"Well... I still dont get it!!
Is the one rider queue in the same line of the normal queue or in the fastpass queue?
It's a totally separate queue.
If you're on your own, you join it and the CMs will put you wherever there's an empty seat in the trains (for example if there's a group of 3 already seated). The ride uses its full capacity and you get on much quicker.
To be honest the new sign at Indy doesn't really make the point of the line clear. Interesting it has a bit of Spanish on there now too...
:o Sounds like a good idea. :lol: Only, what if it's a weird day where everyone in the normal que is in 2's and 4's? You could be waiting even longer in the single rider line.
Single Rider for Crush please! :lol:
Just remember that a single rider queue doesn't necessarily mean that you're saving any time... I remember trying it several times on Everest at Animal Kingdom - and waited exactly the same time as everybody else...
It will be interesting to see how they'd like to install *another* queue at their rides. Might be more hassle than it's actually worth...
Quote from: "experiment627"I remember trying it several times on Everest at Animal Kingdom - and waited exactly the same time as everybody else...
We tried it at Test Track and it worked very well for that attraction at that time.
Quote from: "experiment627"It will be interesting to see how they'd like to install *another* queue at their rides. Might be more hassle than it's actually worth...
At least on Big Thunder Mountain they could probably seperate the first part of the queue (before going into the roofed part), and creating a new entrance from there.
I edited a screenshot from Google Earth to show how the stand-by line and single rider line would go up to the roofed queue.
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For most other rides it will be pretty difficult to add an extra queue.
Well it sounds great... we will have to see it in action!!
I'm not a fan on SRQ's. I work in a theme park and they are and cause so much trouble. People think it will be faster and so large groups join it, making it now a 'groups-who-want-to-beat-the-standard-queue-and-don't-want-to-wait-for-fastpass-line..'
My God, if ONE seat slips by, you get it in the neck from the SR's and those guys who work on rides get it from all three lines.
In addition, my queueing experience has never been amazing in France (no offence), so to add three lines, plus parent swaps, disabled, VIP and anything else..it makes it all so much hassle. If you want to ride, just join the standard line, that way the queue will flow comfortably without problems for everyone...staff very much included.
I'm glad that it's a trial, hope it doesn't stay.
FINALLY, The ONLY time that it works is if an attraction with a high capacity (Oblivion at Alton Towers being a fine example), has the SRQ designed and built into the ride queueing system. Otherwise it's all too problematic.
sweet! single rider queues will be a hit i think, they certainly work their magic in alton towers
for those people who don't understand how single rider works...
Basically its a queue for people by them selves (a single rider) and lets say, rock 'n' roller coaster, 3 people on a 4 seater car, the single rider will be put into that car to fill it up.
sure you have to sit next to someone you don't know, but generally the chances are you get on the ride faster
Interesting post, Fever. You're probably right about how much trouble they are. I've tried them at Alton before and sometimes it can take longer than the normal queue to wait for an empty seat to show up.
@Remco K. -- I'd say BTM would be one of the harder ones to add a SRQ to, since there are only two small stairways to the platforms. Crush loads a bit too fast, unless they grouped people together in 4s way before they reach the platform to give time to spot spaces.
Where does the new queue at Indy go? I can't think of any extra path there.
Quote from: "Baloo"since there are only two small stairways to the platforms.
You're right. I'm still breaking my head on how to solve this problem. The stairs seem to be the only problem, unless they use the current Fast Pass entrance for the single riders, and the path I had in min for the single riders would become the Fast Pass line (still get it? ;)). The Fast Pass line and Stand-by line would merge way before the stairs.
This still wouldn't be the ideal situation. I guess every attraction would need a very extensive rehab on the queues to make this work.
This will be ideal for Crush! No fastpass line please but only a single riders line!
See, it's problematic in text! Put that into the park..chaos! Guests, believe it or not are never ready to board a ride either, so Crush would be a nightmare with the ride system being stopped as someone faffs about..(anyone ever seen SRQ's on Spinball Whizzer at Alton Towers??)
If I were-and I have been to a theme park on my own, I will always ignore the SRQ. Early mornings they can work, but AS SOON (and you hear it in the standard line) guests start to question what the additional line is for, they straight away think 'next time we'll do that and it'll be quicker', thus making it busier, more slow and giving ride attendants something else to deal with (like they haven't got enough).
Thorpe Park for example have stopped SRQ's, with the exception of the rides that were designed for them (and even then I've seen a SRQ on Stealth when the ride had no queue!!!). It's trouble and most of the fights that I've seen are caused by guests in those queues and anyone who thinks they have a VIP ticket.
Finally, no-one likes to see empty seats go, but for a happier place, do we need the hassle of another queueline entrance, OR GOD FORBID using the ride exit?
First I thought it's a great idea...But I totally see your point fever.
I really think Crush would be a nightmare. I think that many would use it because they think it's faster and not because they are single so it wouldn't achive its original goal.
I'm affraid single rider wouldn't be possible on Crushes coaster!
The reason why most cars go by with a seat or two empty is because the manufacturer put a weight limmit on the ride. 1 adult to 3 children under 16 or 2 adults and 2 children under 16 or 2 adults and nobody. I know this because I used to be a team leader at Chessington World of Adventures and one of my rides was Dragons Fury (Same coaster type, built by MS)
Quote from: "Screaming Coasters"I'm affraid single rider wouldn't be possible on Crushes coaster!
The reason why most cars go by with a seat or two empty is because the manufacturer put a weight limmit on the ride. 1 adult to 3 children under 16 or 2 adults and 2 children under 16 or 2 adults and nobody. I know this because I used to be a team leader at Chessington World of Adventures and one of my rides was Dragons Fury (Same coaster type, built by MS)
Yes, this is true, pinball wizard at alton towers is closing due to weight causing too much damage to parts of the track
Quote from: "Screaming Coasters"I'm affraid single rider wouldn't be possible on Crushes coaster!
The reason why most cars go by with a seat or two empty is because the manufacturer put a weight limmit on the ride. 1 adult to 3 children under 16 or 2 adults and 2 children under 16 or 2 adults and nobody. I know this because I used to be a team leader at Chessington World of Adventures and one of my rides was Dragons Fury (Same coaster type, built by MS)
Hmm correct, however in Walt Disney Studios, they do send cars with 4 adults in. Though the spin is rather disastrous :lol: .