After the 2007 Hollywood Boulevard place-making around The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, Theater District is - or was - a second planned place-making project for the rest of the land, primarily around Place des Stars, CinéMagique and Walt Disney Television Studios and possibly to be completed as part of the also-planned construction of Soarin'.
The Theatre District placemaking will focus entirely on the area surrounding Production Courtyard stage. It is the location where several technologies in movie projections will be demonstrated: Cinémagique, Stitch Live and Soarin' (in the future). The area will likely welcome several new Hollywood-style moviesets in front of the existing buildings. Guests will have to go through these sets to discover the actual attractions.
Sounds interesting :)
Does this mean that Soarin' will be coming to WDS or will we still have to wait untill its confirmed?
It will happen, but not the coming 2-3 years.
So another placemaking comes to an end ! :) And another one starts :D
I really like the sound of the movie sets infront of the buildings. i think itll look really good continuing from Hollywood Bulv
This links to Raptors WDSFans Post;
QuoteBut on the bright side, all of the Imagineers' attention will go to the various placemaking projects in every part of the park for the coming years
:lol:
Tom Mcgill told me back in January that a placemaking always come with a new attraction ( Toon Studios - Crush/Cars, Hollywood Bvd - TOT). So if there is a placemaking of Production Courtyard, I guess it will be when a new ride appear. Of course, maybe plans may have been changed then.
Quote from: "Kinou"Tom Mcgill told me back in January that a placemaking always come with a new attraction ( Toon Studios - Crush/Cars, Hollywood Bvd - TOT). So if there is a placemaking of Production Courtyard, I guess it will be when a new ride appear. Of course, maybe plans may have been changed then.
in this instance the new attraction is stitch though isnt it?
Yeah, this could be.
Quote from: "raptor1982"Construction will likely start after Hollywood Blvd. has been finished.
the hollywood placemaking should be finished by november/december and with the opening of stitch in march it would fit. and it would be a year when during the peak season no construction fences (or much less) will be seen in the WDS
Quotethe hollywood placemaking should be finished by november/december
The Hollywood Placemaking constructions will continue after ToT opens.
What? what do they have in store for us? are there already plans beyond the current constructions of the blvd?
(sry, a bit off topic)
Anyway, its very interesting what the production courtyard is going to become, more facades. i hope there's something done by june 2008 when i intend to go do dlrp again. :D
Quote from: "raptor1982"Quotethe hollywood placemaking should be finished by november/december
The Hollywood Placemaking constructions will continue after ToT opens.
The press opening in april (or march?) of the visitor opening in december?
Quote from: "raptor1982"This is the official topic for the Theatre District placemaking.
This post will be changed in the future with a more in-depth description and concept art when or if these will be released.
The Theatre District placemaking will focus entirely on the area surrounding Production Courtyard stage. It is the location where several technologies in movie projections will be demonstrated: Cinémagique, Stitch Live and Soarin' (within a few years). Peter Bell mentioned in his article on Miceage last year that the area will welcome several Hollywood style moviesets in front of the existing buildings. Guests will have to go through these sets to discover the actual attractions.
Construction will likely start after Hollywood Blvd. has been finished.
Sounds good to me, I can't wait :)
I can't wait.
Cool 8) I didn't know this was going to happen after the Hollywood Boulevard :) Should be interesting...
Quote from: "raptor1982"Quotethe hollywood placemaking should be finished by november/december
The Hollywood Placemaking constructions will continue after ToT opens.
like what? it looks nearly finished... :?
Quote from: "raptor1982"Quotethe hollywood placemaking should be finished by november/december
The Hollywood Placemaking constructions will continue after ToT opens.
What kind of constructions are you talking about??
Two questions for raptor:
1) How official are these plans? Just rumours or already confirmed?
2) How will they squize the huge Soarin'-building into the small space between Cinémagique and TV-studios?
They could build Soarin' with just one theatre, instead of the two it has at both Epcot and DCA. That would effectively halve the size of the building required to house the attraction, and make it cheaper to build, but at a loss of capacity.
QuoteThey could build Soarin' with just one theatre, instead of the two it has at both Epcot and DCA. That would effectively halve the size of the building required to house the attraction, and make it cheaper to build, but at a loss of capacity.
That's indeed possible, but a big problem for the capacity. Keeping in mind the popularity of the attraction, that would create huge waiting times ... like at Crush's Coaster. On the other hand, the perfect solution to keep the public (waiting and waiting and ...) in WDS for an entire day :wink:
Or build two theatres behind each other instead of next to each other?
QuoteOr build two theatres behind each other instead of next to each other?
That's impossible, since the RER and TGV railroads are right behind the open space. A large showbuilding/theatre just can't be built on that location.
By the way, how can Soarin' be justified thematically in Hollywood Studio? Soarin' in the Back Lot makes a lot more sense. Soarin' would be nice as the first future expansion outside the current WDS-space, together with a complete makeover of the Tram Tour.
dr.jones, this has been explained before:
As you might have noticed, the future name of the Production Courtyard plaza will be Theatre District. It's where cinema technology is presented: Cinémagique, Soarin' (Imax screen) and Stitch Live.
ok raptor, thematically it makes sense
but that still does not explain how they will be able to build the huge building on such a small space (unless they get rid of the service/backstage-road around WDS and next to the da vince parking lot)
Yeah, unfortunately I'm not the Imagineer in charge of the project. :lol: So I don't know how they will pull it off, but my connections at Imagineering assured me that Soarin' is scheduled to be build between Disney Channel & Cinémagique in the future.
let's hope that they know what they're doing and that they give us a pleasant surprise :D
after all, their profession = making magic, and so far we may certainly not complain (except about Disney Village :wink: )
Quote from: "dr.jones"let's hope that they know what they're doing and that they give us a pleasant surprise :D
They've not let us down yet :wink:
Question about the placemaking of the Theatre District.
Might it be possible that they put a Chinese Theater-façade in front of CinéMagique?
Is this realistic or wishful thinking?
I think it will get a new movie theatre-based façade, but not the Chinese Theatre. In Florida they're apparently having trouble with the owners of the real theatre, because they don't want MGM to be using it as their main icon (hence the 2001 hat still being in place to hide it, although I don't know how truthful these rumours are).
lets hope not Baloo, otherwise MGM are stuck with that hat, and we don't get a Hollywood iconic building
Quote from: "penfold12"lets hope not Baloo, otherwise MGM are stuck with that hat, and we don't get a Hollywood iconic building
There are more Hollywood iconic buildings to choose from, so don't worry. :)
On a side note; did anyone notice that Parque Warner Madrid contains a replica of Gaumann's Chinese Theatre aswell?
Nope, I never knew that! It looks a bit cheap to be honest...
(//http://www.themeparkreview.com/wbmw2006/wbmw5.jpg)
Certainly another reason to give it a miss then.
Anyone know of another famous Hollywood theater?
I think there is another famous cinema on the same street - the Egyptian - whihc is owned by disney.
Quote from: "Baloo"Nope, I never knew that! It looks a bit cheap to be honest...
Indeed, one can clearly see the Disney Difference when you compare it to the Disney's Hollywood Studios version. :wink:
Beyond CinéMagique, I'm actually quite interested to see what they do with the Disney Channel Building. Of the original WDS buildings in the main part of the park, it's probably the nicest. And, with them already changing it slightly for Stitch... what changes will they make to turn it into "Hollywood"? Plonk a facade down a few metres in front of it?
This is the one thing I can't think of a solution for.
Quote from: "Maarten"the Disney's Hollywood Studios version.
You know, I wish someone could come up with a scientific explanation why people (mainly US fans) still call DLRP "eurodisney" and WDS "disney studios paris, DSP", yet everyone has already switched instantly to "DHS". :lol:
Quote from: "Baloo"Beyond CinéMagique, I'm actually quite interested to see what they do with the Disney Channel Building. Of the original WDS buildings in the main part of the park, it's probably the nicest. And, with them already changing it slightly for Stitch... what changes will they make to turn it into "Hollywood"? Plonk a facade down a few metres in front of it?
This is the one thing I can't think of a solution for.
Quote from: "Maarten"the Disney's Hollywood Studios version.
You know, I wish someone could come up with a scientific explanation why people (mainly US fans) still call DLRP "eurodisney" and WDS "disney studios paris, DSP", yet everyone has already switched instantly to "DHS". :lol:
:P My guess is they want to keep there american resorts unique. As in "Walt Disney" studios, and "Disneyland Resort" Paris.
Just my guess :lol:
Are there any buidings confirmed for the placemaking or just blue sky?
Quote from: "Riebi"Are there any buidings confirmed for the placemaking or just blue sky?
I have been wondering this also. Baloo, do you have any ideas or plans of what the new area could look like?
Lol, I don't think Baloo has those.
Quote from: "raptor1982"Lol, I don't think Baloo has those.
I know he doesn't have the actual plans but has he heard rumours of what may be put here?
Quote from: "disneymadchris"Quote from: "raptor1982"Lol, I don't think Baloo has those.
I know he doesn't have the actual plans but has he heard rumours of what may be put here?
Or Raptor, does Blue Bird have any idea? :wink:
Quote from: "raptor1982"Lol, I don't think Baloo has those.
Damn, I could have had a chance to put my artistic skills into practice: Red car trolley here, new boutique there... :wink:
QuoteDamn, I could have had a chance to put my artistic skills into practice: Red car trolley here, new boutique there.
:lol: Well you already did that WDS plan a few months ago in the Imagineering board, which was great anyway.
i like the idea from baloos map of the wds in 2017 where he placed a building in the center of production courtyard. A square building might be to sterile, but putting a new building there would add atmosphere to the park due to unability to overview the whole park from one spot ;) I hope something like this is planned for that area.
Sounds good
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Well, seeing as Hollywood Blvd. is now done, any news on plans for Theatre District?
Uhm... I think that if there was any news, it propably would have been told here..
But I'm just as curious as you about this theatre disctrict after I saw how the park has changed with the boulevard.
We may find out more tomorrow at the Annual Shareholders meeting. I have to say Imagineers did a great job on Toon Studios and the Animation courtyard project. Through I don't see the logic in starting the Theatre District project until after the Summer. With the arrival of Stitch and Tower of Terror, plus the return of High School Musical this year the Studios should be near capacity this Summer. So to start a project this big during what should be the biggest year in the Studios history could cause a bit of mayhem. Especially if you have to start narrowing down the pathways in order to put up construction walls.
Poppy the Monkey mentioned a new show for Place des Stars in another topic, so the Summer might not see any major work. I'm guessing the stage won't be saved when they get started there, anyone agree?
We still don't really know if this project is green-lit do we?
I can't remember the last time they announced something new at the shareholder's meeting, usually seems to go to the CMs first. :?
From what I understood will the stage stay but rethemed.
Just a little note: in the latest Photosmagiques update there are pictures showing the Cinemagique building being painted.
(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/7-9_march_08/DSC04001.JPG)
My conclusion is they won't start the placemaking anytime soon... Or will they perhaps include the entrance into the forthcoming facades?
Pictures are from the latest Photosmagiques.com update (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/news_7-9_03_08.php).
The Cinémagique repaint is not related to the Placemaking project. It's already being discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4210 (https://forum.dlpguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4210)
It's an effort by park operations to keep the attraction "fresh" and attract more visitors.
Good to hear! Than I´m very happy with refreshing of it! :mrgreen:
I can imagine a facade will be added to the front of Cinemagique but with the canopy remaining as part of the future place-making, although i hope you would still be able to see the top arch shape of the building above to keep with the general design of the studios.
Quote from: "danwills"although i hope you would still be able to see the top arch shape of the building above to keep with the general design of the studios.
This will probably be the case, but not when you stand in front of the facade. You'll most likely be able to see it from other places inside the studios.
I hope with a new facade they take the chance to cover up that ugly bit that sticks out of the building on top of the canopy bit. Why is that there? It doesn't seem like Animagique has the same, but they both have control rooms at the back.
I really think an actual queue line inside the waiting areas would be good too, it drives me crazy the way everyone shoves forward when the doors open as if there's only 10 seats inside.
Quote from: "Baloo"I hope with a new facade they take the chance to cover up that ugly bit that sticks out of the building on top of the canopy bit. Why is that there? It doesn't seem like Animagique has the same, but they both have control rooms at the back.
I really think an actual queue line inside the waiting areas would be good too, it drives me crazy the way everyone shoves forward when the doors open as if there's only 10 seats inside.
Never realized this building on top of the canopy bit. Have you a picture of it? :shock: :D
And a real queue would be great! I also don´t like this runing without any control. Please the same for animagique and amageddddooon.
Quote from: "Riebi"Never realized this building on top of the canopy bit. Have you a picture of it? :shock: :D
Also from the latest Photosmagiques.com update (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/news_7-9_03_08.php):
(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/news_updates/7-9_march_08/DSC03986.JPG)
Oh. Is it the white(r) part? Never realized. But now it´s parasitic. You´ve destroy a part of my magic :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Riebi"You´ve destroy a part of my magic :lol: :lol: :lol:
Take a deep breath and get over with it! :lol:
Quote from: "Baloo"I hope with a new facade they take the chance to cover up that ugly bit that sticks out of the building on top of the canopy bit.
Now that I'm looking at the picture again, I must say it doesn't really bother me all that much. Basically, I would be more upset about the exterior of Rock 'n' Roller Coaster or Armageddon... :wink:
Are they going to paint the entire facade purple or just under the canopy? Hopefully the last option if you ask me...
In the media magic interviews we can find a view of the Production Courtyard:
QuoteThat way, Stitch Live! naturally found its place within this new setting of Production Courtyard.
Absolutely. Hollywood Boulevard and Vine Street are part of Production Courtyard along with the Tower of Terror and the new version of Terrasse Perrier. In fact, when you're at Disney Bros. Plaza, you have one side that remains traditional Art Deco and then all that was added with the Tower and Hollywood Boulevard is in a rather Pueblo Deco fashion.
We kept with Art Deco, yet in a more Californian way. So, the overall style is Art Deco but the Streamline Moderne style is only represented on two or three buildings, now. We added to it something richer, more decorated. It's a big move and a great move, I think. But, you know, at the very beginning, Stitch's attraction was not intended to be that big.
:arrow: //http://www.dlrpmagic.com/today/2008/03/22/media-magic-interview-with-laurent-cayuela-imagineer-stitch-live/
Do you think that this will be the way to develope the courtyard with the theater district placemaking in the future? One side more pueblo and one side more art deco?
Quote from: "Maarten"Are they going to paint the entire facade purple or just under the canopy? Hopefully the last option if you ask me...
No, just the lower section under the canopy - take a look at PM's photos again, it stops before it reaches the roof. Breaks up all that yellow nicely. As Raptor said before though, this repainting is actually unrelated to the placemaking, just something to freshen it up until then.
Quote from: "Riebi"Do you think that this will be the way to develope the courtyard with the theater district placemaking in the future? One side more pueblo and one side more art deco?
I think it depends how big a budget they eventually get, as in how much they can change. :P
No, I personally think the Art Deco will stay but I can imagine the whole area being far more "showy" with lots of theatre signs and neon lights, very "expositional" if that's a word?
Quote from: "Baloo"No, I personally think the Art Deco will stay but I can imagine the whole area being far more "showy" with lots of theatre signs and neon lights, very "expositional" if that's a word?
In german maybe :mrgreen: But I know what you mean :lol:
Hope much for more art deco and of course more neon and show ambiance.
So, what the potential plans? More facades like the ones infront of the Towere Of Terror, or just dressing the existing buildings?
Quote from: "penfold12"So, what the potential plans? More facades like the ones infront of the Towere Of Terror, or just dressing the existing buildings?
None of us knows for sure... except Raptor perhaps... :wink:
So nothing has been added to this thread since March, and with the recent speculation about a brand new Ratatouille attraction being planned for the back area of Toon Studios, plus talk about the Theatre District becoming quiet, does this mean the placemaking project for 2008 is now dead?
Not dead as such, but I don't think it'll be as immediate as we hoped. :(
Although... if Hollywood Blvd was financed by the "leftovers" of the first €240m investment programme, it could just be that they're waiting for TWDC to sign off on that next mythical cheque for the next 5 years before they can get started.
Speculation. :wink:
Is there any more news of this?
This post has been dead for at least 3 months lol.
Any News :mrgreen:
If there's news, you can be sure it will be posted by someone. Please don't bump up a topic like this.
I guess that needs a smilie to make it friendly. :wink:
kk lol :-"
And I'm de-stickying this one too, unfortunately.
Seems after stepping back and looking where to expand the Studios next, they've all but settled (probably quite sensibly) on expanding over the other side of Disney Bros Plaza in Toon Studio...
Hopefully Soarin' and Theater District will be taken off ice post-2011/12...
Real shame, real shame. The facades would of added much needed theming
I really wonder what happend to the plans for this placemaking project. It was the project I was looking forward the most, as it really seamed WDS was on the right path back then, bringing in some Magic even outside of the attractions.
Does anyone know if this has been canceled all over, or just been pushed back?
I would say just pushed back. Otherwise this area is really in danger of looking like a mismatched, unthemed road to nowhere..
The park will be seriously unbalanced in terms of themeing after the summer of 2010.. All though there are two major atrractions to the left with the Stunt Show and RnR, the route to them will be almost like a service road in comparism with the rest of the park.