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Disneyland Paris => Disneyland Paris News & Rumours => Topic started by: Kristof on June 14, 2007, 11:44:04 AM

Title: River Rogue Keelboats returning
Post by: Kristof on June 14, 2007, 11:44:04 AM
Exciting news comes from La Roquine on Disney Central Plaza:

The keelboats are returning by the end of this month or early July!  Problem this time wasn't budget cuts, but a change of rules by the goverment.  It turned out that the CM's needed to have a licence for operating a boat.  DLRP got exclusive permission by the regulators for training them on property.

I saw a crew getting trained with a regular boat on Lake Disney last week, which explains the above.

Wow, amazing huh!  I'm so excited, I've never been on the Keelboats...

 :D

For the newbies who don't know what the River Rogue Keelboats are, here's a link to the Photos Magiques album (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/river_keelboats).

Edit: Decided to split the topic from the original one (which can be found here (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639&highlight=keelboats)).
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Post by: tubbsy on June 14, 2007, 11:47:32 AM
Thats brilliant :D

Is it going to be seasonal though? I'd love to go on them in October.
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Post by: Masamune on June 14, 2007, 12:44:18 PM
:D How lovely!

:) Has anyone on the forum actually been on them? If so, tell us about it!
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Post by: Anthony on June 14, 2007, 01:12:16 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!  Though I might still need to wait until I see them with my own eyes carrying guests to believe it...

This is some of the best news we've had in months!  It's the final encore of Karl Holz' turnaround of the resort - every month, every week DLRP is getting better and better these days.  Seriously, can we say he's the best CEO the resort has ever had now?  He certainly has an amazing team around him, wanting to do things like this.

Reopening an attraction that costs a lot to run and doesn't even have a very high capacity, simply for guest satisfaction... is this still Disney? :P

It might also say something about their attendance this Summer - do they need more capacity at Disneyland Park now?  Interesting...
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Post by: kurgly_bird on June 14, 2007, 01:34:46 PM
i've been on them ! but i was only about 8 so i don't remember it too well. it was nice, i remember them being very low in the water and quite quick, good way to escape the summer bustle  :D

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Post by: smurfy74 on June 14, 2007, 10:04:11 PM
i will be keeping my fingers crossed that they will be open for our september visit :roll:
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Post by: davewasbaloo on June 14, 2007, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: "Masamune":D How lovely!

:) Has anyone on the forum actually been on them? If so, tell us about it!

I rode them a number of times through the 90's, last time being 1999. They were slow loading, and had small numbers of guests, but they were cool because the spiel was given by the cast members rather than a recording.  They travelled between the islands including the rapids (that could be even better felt in the canoes) and through the rock arch.  The journey could be really dull or a lot of fun.  It was always down to the cast members and the guests on board.  But that's what made it cool.

I used to ride them all the time in US parks too, where it really was like a western version of the jungle cruise.
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Post by: Nicholas-c on June 15, 2007, 12:11:44 AM
awesome, i read about these on dlrpmagic, where do u go in the boats, it will be ace :D
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Post by: Masamune on June 15, 2007, 12:59:55 AM
:P They sound good. :o I don't think they'll be open for next week though if they're talking late June/early July. I'll have to wait till our next DLRP trip in 2009!
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Post by: davewasbaloo on June 15, 2007, 01:14:46 AM
We leave DLP on the 29th, so there may be a small chance we can try them again.
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Post by: britincgn on June 15, 2007, 08:51:53 AM
They were always great fun and a fantastic place just to relax if you are tired.It will  be a great addition as for so many it will be a new attraction.
Acctually the same as with the canoos but then again I always sat at the back and let the others paddle :oops:
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Post by: Soap on June 15, 2007, 09:49:34 AM
Never been one i think, but a really great re-opening by Disney  :D
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Post by: Kristof on June 16, 2007, 01:55:53 PM
Training on the Rivers of the Far West has started!

(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/albums/16-17_june_07/DSC02814.jpg)

(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/albums/16-17_june_07/DSC02817.jpg)
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Post by: Anthony on June 16, 2007, 02:27:49 PM
*screams* :o :o

Life has returned to the Rivers of the Far West!!!

Thanks raptor! :D
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Post by: RnRCj on June 16, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
I've never ridden these either (I've never seen them before at the park), but they do look really good and I hope I get to ride them some day! :lol:
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Post by: Nicholas-c on June 16, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
so they actually get turned by cast members :o that will make it alot more fun :D
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Post by: RnRCj on June 16, 2007, 03:16:49 PM
Will they operating later in the year? Say, October/November sort of time?
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Post by: Anthony on June 16, 2007, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: "RnRCj"Will they operating later in the year? Say, October/November sort of time?
Oooh maybe not.  I'm guessing they'll run July and August, but if they continue beyond that will depend on how successful they are.  October could be a strong possibility though, since it's so busy these days and the centre of Halloween.

I guess we'll have to wait and see...
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Post by: Riebi on June 18, 2007, 11:29:48 AM
That are great news! I loved this attraction! How will it be to ride it again after this very long break!
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Post by: Dlrpfan on June 18, 2007, 05:48:01 PM
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! hopefully thell be open for my trip in 2 weeks!!
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Post by: anthony2k6 on June 18, 2007, 07:23:28 PM
iv just booked for 20th - 22nd aug and the cast member said they wont be open then :(
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Post by: Riebi on June 19, 2007, 09:01:25 AM
disneytheque wrote that it will open from July 7th :D
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Post by: Soap on June 19, 2007, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: "Riebi"disneytheque wrote that it will open from July 7th :D

Argh...pity, laast day is 2 July :(
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Post by: Riebi on June 19, 2007, 09:06:02 AM
Hm don´t worry! Maybe they are wrong and it will open earlier! I pray for you! [-o<

And if not: Take your own little blow-up rubber boat and make the tour on your own  :D
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Post by: Soap on June 19, 2007, 09:09:19 AM
Whahahahhaha will do....i must have one with a big Mickey on it somewhere  :wink:

So if you here that story (or pictures and videos on CNN/YOUTUBE) you'll know which crazy dutchman that was  :P
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Post by: Riebi on June 19, 2007, 09:25:35 AM
I will be very happy and proud if I see you in your mickey-boat on the rivers in frontierland!

Tinker you a "Keelboats" sign to make it a real experience!
 :lol:
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Post by: giorgio1712 on June 19, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
Can't wait to go on these now!! Are they fully controlled by CM's?
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Post by: Dlrpfan on June 20, 2007, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: "Riebi"disneytheque wrote that it will open from July 7th :D
aww snap lol
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Post by: disneyfanatic on June 20, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
Where are the Keel boats located? We were on the Mark Twain yesterday and saw someone working on a Brown Boat with the name Coyote on it. I couldn't see where you would go to get on one of those boats and would it be able to run with The Mark twain in the water also?
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Post by: Anthony on June 20, 2007, 10:38:58 PM
(//http://www.dlrpmagic.com/guides/disneylandpark/frontierland/3_map.jpg)

The loading dock is at #6, and they're controlled totally by Cast Members, so they can dodge the riverboats and go further into and around the islands/rocks of the Rivers of the Far West. :)
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Post by: disneyfanatic on June 20, 2007, 11:50:49 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: Kristof on June 21, 2007, 12:02:33 AM
I wonder with the Keelboats open and Pocahontas Indian Village operating, would they consider reopening the Pueblo Trading Post shop?  It can easily be used as a cold drinks stand.
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Post by: Masamune on June 23, 2007, 11:57:05 AM
:o We saw the brown boat named Coyote whilst we were riding the train on Thursday.
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Post by: Dlrpfan on June 23, 2007, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"I wonder with the Keelboats open and Pocahontas Indian Village operating, would they consider reopening the Pueblo Trading Post shop?  It can easily be used as a cold drinks stand.
i was thinking that too as it would add too the area and like you said raptor would be great as a cold drink stand after playing in the village or sailing on the kealboats
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Post by: Kristof on June 25, 2007, 12:18:48 AM
The waiting time sign has been installed!

(//http://www.photosmagiques.com/gallery/albums/trip_21-23_june_07/DSC04077.jpg)
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Post by: Riebi on June 25, 2007, 09:58:52 AM
I can only hope that 120 minutes aren´t the normal status there
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Post by: The Butlin Boy on June 25, 2007, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: "Riebi"I can only hope that 120 minutes aren´t the normal status there

I doubt it :wink:
It's all looking so good so far, I think that this year will definately be the best year in DLRP history :D
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Post by: RnRCj on June 25, 2007, 05:42:05 PM
120 minutes :P It's just a shame I won't be able to ride these since I'll probably be visiting in November this year :(
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Post by: Patrick on June 25, 2007, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"
Quote from: "Riebi"I can only hope that 120 minutes aren´t the normal status there

I doubt it :wink:
It's all looking so good so far, I think that this year will definately be the best year in DLRP history :D

Doubt it, I expect a queue of 120 minutes, if crush can get 2 hours, cars 1 hour, yep definately can see 2 hour queues for the keelboats, after all to normal guests they are a new attraction :wink: .
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Post by: Riebi on June 26, 2007, 08:57:52 AM
Quote from: "PATMAGIC"Doubt it, I expect a queue of 120 minutes, if crush can get 2 hours, cars 1 hour, .

Hm keeping this in mind I´m also not sure. 120 minutes can be true cause the capacity of the attraction isn´t very high. How much boats have they?
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Post by: ailsa on June 26, 2007, 10:35:42 AM
Oooo... I'm excited I have been to disney 6 times before and this time I am the most excited! They sound fun!
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Post by: Patrick on June 26, 2007, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: "Riebi"
Quote from: "PATMAGIC"Doubt it, I expect a queue of 120 minutes, if crush can get 2 hours, cars 1 hour, .

Hm keeping this in mind I´m also not sure. 120 minutes can be true cause the capacity of the attraction isn´t very high. How much boats have they?

This has been stated already, but there are only 2 boats, the Coyote and the Racoon :wink: .
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Post by: Kristof on July 17, 2007, 02:07:38 AM
It wasn't open this weekend.  We overheard a Cast Member explaining to other guests that it wouldn't reopen this week.
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Post by: Disneyana on July 17, 2007, 10:02:23 AM
Oh I wish they will be open and operating in september. I never had the chance to ride with them, but I want to.
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Post by: esmeralda on July 18, 2007, 11:11:43 PM
I'm going on saturday 28th to dlrp, i was already looking forward so much! the last time i rode it was in '97!!  I still cross my fingers.. :D
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Post by: Kristof on July 20, 2007, 09:54:56 PM
I've been told that they were operating today!  :D
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Post by: The Butlin Boy on July 20, 2007, 10:46:16 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"I've been told that they were operating today!  :D

 :D/ WOOOHOOO :D/
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Post by: RnRCj on July 21, 2007, 11:07:14 AM
Yes! :D :D/

Hopefully they'll be operating in September, which seems to be the most likely time I'll visit now :lol:
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Post by: Dlrpfan on July 22, 2007, 06:21:50 PM
whaaahoooooo!
Welcome Back Kealboats!!
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Post by: Patrick on July 22, 2007, 10:17:35 PM
It`s nice to see them return I even had the pleasure of riding them this morning, nice little attraction, definately giving some life back to Frontierland.
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Post by: smurfy74 on July 23, 2007, 10:04:05 AM
Any news of their opening hours??? I hope they are operating late September
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Post by: Maarten on July 23, 2007, 05:46:27 PM
Its great to hear they returned just in time! I'll check them out tomorrow.  8)

By the way; can someone please tell me the storyline behind the Keelboats? It has something to do with smugglers right?
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Post by: Kristof on July 23, 2007, 05:54:01 PM
Didier Ghez's bible reveals:

Quote from: "From Sketch to Reality"Our adventurous spirit leads us to board one of the two River Rogue Keelboats - named Raccoon and Coyote - the smuggler's boats inspired by the 1955 film Davy Crocket and the River Pirates.  The boats departs from Smuggler's Cove, a hideout for river pirates.  The voyage is relatively peaceful and we even have time to wave Old Joe, who is fishing not far from the picturesque surroundings of Wilderness Island.
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Post by: Maarten on July 23, 2007, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: "raptor1982"Didier Ghez's bible reveals:

Quote from: "From Sketch to Reality"Our adventurous spirit leads us to board one of the two River Rogue Keelboats - named Raccoon and Coyote - the smuggler's boats inspired by the 1955 film Davy Crocket and the River Pirates.  The boats departs from Smuggler's Cove, a hideout for river pirates.  The voyage is relatively peaceful and we even have time to wave Old Joe, who is fishing not far from the picturesque surroundings of Wilderness Island.

Thanks for your response! I would never have thought that there was a storyline and such a strong link to the Davy Crocket films. It proves once again that Frontierland is a true gem of Imagineering.
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Post by: Kristof on July 23, 2007, 06:34:27 PM
QuoteIt proves once again that Frontierland is a true gem of Imagineering.

Yes!  I agree, and hope it will always be a gem...
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Post by: Owain on August 23, 2007, 12:05:45 PM
Heres Pictures of them both on the river;

(//http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20070821/DSC03075.JPG)

(//http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20070821/DSC03076.JPG)

Source; //http://joel.at.dlp.online.fr/dlp/20070821/
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Post by: Flounder on August 23, 2007, 12:09:45 PM
Quote from: "smurfy74"Any news of their opening hours??? I hope they are operating late September

I second this request ...
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Post by: GeoffD on August 23, 2007, 01:21:42 PM
When i was there we were on the Molly Brown outside the phantom Mannor and the Kealboat went straight past, what a sight. I just wish i was standing at Phantom Mannor to get that picture.
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Post by: Disneyana on August 24, 2007, 08:39:01 PM
Wow they look soooo great. I so much wish to ride with them. In ten days I will find out if I can.  :wink:  :D/
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Post by: Mr_B on November 01, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
Does anyone know if the keelboats are open all year round or are they just at peak times ?

I'd love to try them in January. We've never had the chance before.

Mr_B
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Post by: Reiana on November 01, 2007, 10:37:26 AM
When we went this september (off-season), keelboats were only operating on weekends.  :?
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Post by: Mr_B on November 01, 2007, 01:29:01 PM
Thanks for the post Reiana.

Looks like I might be lucky and get a chance of trying them on the day I leave. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Mr_B
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Post by: smurfy74 on November 02, 2007, 12:04:15 AM
We went on them in September and they were onlyopen at the weekend like mentioned earlier and the queues werent too bad, about 30mins
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Post by: ford prefect on November 27, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
does anyone know if keelboats will be open over the christmas holiday?

many thanks

sorry, should have put this in trip planning, will post it there!!!
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Post by: experiment627 on November 27, 2007, 04:13:46 PM
Quote from: "ford prefect"does anyone know if keelboats will be open over the christmas holiday?

It should - though nothing can be confirmed... Disney wants to have them running as often as possible and the next batch of CMs will make its boat license shortly... or so I've heared.
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