During the Mickeys 25th anniversary show on the castle show.
Some were standing which caused potential arguments between them and people who.were sitting on the floor behind them.
I asked a CM what the deal was and was told that it is up to people if they want to sit or stand and they cant enforce anything of people.
I dont agree with this as it leads to arguments between guest.
Pick a rule Disneyland Paris: either you make everyone sit on floor to watch the show or people have to stand.
No inbetween.
Yes it is annoying when that happens but I don't think it is feasible to dictate one way or the other for many reasons including;
Physical mobility...some cannot sit on the floor perhaps the elderly or the infirm. They also may not be able to stand for longer periods either.
Prams will also need folded down if everyone sits as they could also be seen a view blocking.
The weather..as someone who goes regularly in low season I would not sit as it is usually wet, damp, frosty or just really too cold to sit on concrete. People need to move a little to keep warm.
As someone who is not very tall I get how annoying it is when some 6 footer with a child on their shoulders plonks themselves infront of you just as the music starts but unfortunately there is little anyone can do.😠
Thats the thing that i found weird at the 25th anniversary show: 85% people were sitting and continued to sit. I have never seen this before.
It was the few people that were standing that were getting beef from the people that were sitting.
We've always stood for castle shows or fireworks. I would say it would not be safe to have guests sit. God forbid if anything went wrong and people have to leave in a hurry that many people trying to get up all at once could not end well.
Although I understand your reasoning, I think the disarray will not be much more as from all people standing, trying to get off Central Plaza in a panic.
Quote from: petals on May 07, 2017, 03:11:00 AM
We've always stood for castle shows or fireworks. I would say it would not be safe to have guests sit. God forbid if anything went wrong and people have to leave in a hurry that many people trying to get up all at once could not end well.
I don't think it's a safety issue in the slightest since the chance of anything go wrong is so minuscule and sometimes not even a consideration (like with the stage shows). However people sitting do take up much more room which on busy days simply isn't feasible.
We always stand because I simply can't sit on concrete I find it extremely uncomfortable. I understand it may not please some people but if disney say it is up to each individual guest I will stay standing, we had this problem last year where a couple behind is were sat and we were stood and the husband started on us so we got a cast member over who confirmed if we wished to stand that was fine. Also it was packed when we went so standing was a lot easier in my opinion. At the end of the day when the firework show is on at night everyone stands and yes sometimes it is hard to see if there is a taller person in front but if that person has been waiting in that spot longer than the person behind then sorry but tough to the person behind should have got there to wait for the show to start earlier and they could have been closer to the front.
I think that there cannot be enforcement by CMs either to sit or stand for many reasons so really it is about having a little bit of courtesy to your fellow Disney lovers. Have a look around you and see what others are doing and if appropriate follow suit. Don't be a hog and stand right in front of children or small adults if you are a giant (anyone over 5 foot 4" in my case!) just be polite and think of others and we'll all get along fine. ;D
Quote from: Slimy yet satisfying on May 07, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
I think that there cannot be enforcement by CMs either to sit or stand for many reasons so really it is about having a little bit of courtesy to your fellow Disney lovers. Have a look around you and see what others are doing and if appropriate follow suit. Don't be a hog and stand right in front of children or small adults if you are a giant (anyone over 5 foot 4" in my case!) just be polite and think of others and we'll all get along fine. ;D
Thats the problem - alot of guests dont have manners/common sense or courtesy - so sometimes they need telling.
In the summer, we sit in front of the castle along with everyone else. Standing for an hour would be terrible. Last year some people tried to stand up, but after many complaints were told by cast members to sit back down.
In the winter it's probably different, especially if the ground is wet.
It's an unwritten rule that is impossible to write.
Maybe they could have roped areas, for standing or for sitting?
Quote from: A&S&O on May 08, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
In the winter it's probably different, especially if the ground is wet
We for the last 9 years have only gone in January and February.
At that time everyone stands up all the time. Probably because it's cold or wet so sitting is just uncomfortable.
I just thought that was the case all the time.
But I agree with others that it cannot be a thing forced on guests. Definitely cannot make it so people have to sit down as already mentioned. Some people can't sit down and get up. Also the buggys would be annoying.
If I was sat down then I'd hope others would too but if they don't I just stand up.
The only thing that really annoys me is when everyone is standing and then someone decides to stand on some 'high ground' wether it be the fountain at plaza gardens or a bench. As a short person it is so annoying.
You will never be able to enforce a rue like this as there are too many variables, most of which have already been discussed.
Slightly off the topic but just as annoying to me are the people who arrive 10 minutes before the start and try to push their way to the front. 99% of us get our places as we are prepared to wait come rain or shine.
Quote from: grovesie on May 09, 2017, 08:48:06 AM
You will never be able to enforce a rue like this as there are too many variables, most of which have already been discussed.
Slightly off the topic but just as annoying to me are the people who arrive 10 minutes before the start and try to push their way to the front. 99% of us get our places as we are prepared to wait come rain or shine.
Yes those people are the best.
Saw a couple with a buggy waiting for the parade and i could see what was going to happen: they wasnt aware of people around them. The buggy with the child in it wasnt right at the front of the rope ao 5 mins before the parade started people put their kids in front of the buggy so the child in the buggy had children standing in front of them.
If you want to keep your place at the front you have to be standing/sitting as close to that rope as possible.
You have to be aware the whole time because as soon as you take your eye off the ball people push in.
I took my eye of the ball for a minute or two whilst in line for Alice and Mad Hatter and old guy who was about 4 people behind me ended up standing in front of me.
I werent having that.
Hi got back sat and had an amazing time. Parade is at 5.30 and we got our place on Main Street. We set up early when they were putting ropes out and sat on floor. My husband and 5 year old son saved our spaces whilst my 11 yr old daughter and myself used the valuable time in the large shop behind them! We Looked at what we wanted to by in the way of gifts for the family. If you buy before 3pm you can leave your items in the shop and they will deliver them to your hotel free of charge.
Quote from: Disney25 on May 09, 2017, 10:23:48 AM
Hi got back sat and had an amazing time. Parade is at 5.30 and we got our place on Main Street. We set up early when they were putting ropes out and sat on floor. My husband and 5 year old son saved our spaces whilst my 11 yr old daughter and myself used the valuable time in the large shop behind them! We Looked at what we wanted to by in the way of gifts for the family. If you buy before 3pm you can leave your items in the shop and they will deliver them to your hotel free of charge.
What time did you get your place in Main Street?
It always looks as if people start getting their place so early on that part of the parade route.
Wherever you are in the park I would aim to be back on main street at 4.45 by the time it comes round to that area you are looking at about 5.45 I know its a long wait which is why we choose to sit there early as my husband doesn't mind sitting with my little boy to recharge themselves and i can peacefully browse the shop's without him breathing down my neck!!!
Quote from: Disney25 on May 09, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
Wherever you are in the park I would aim to be back on main street at 4.45 by the time it comes round to that area you are looking at about 5.45 I know its a long wait which is why we choose to sit there early as my husband doesn't mind sitting with my little boy to recharge themselves and i can peacefully browse the shop's without him breathing down my neck!!!
yes good to shop in peace!
Quote from: claire2281 on May 07, 2017, 10:37:11 AM
I don't think it's a safety issue in the slightest since the chance of anything go wrong is so minuscule and sometimes not even a consideration (like with the stage shows). However people sitting do take up much more room which on busy days simply isn't feasible.
You think if you were sitting people wouldn't literally walk over you in the Paris parks?! :/ lol. We've had people steal seats from under us in restaurants in the Paris parks. IMO while safety might not be the CM's reason for letting people stand I certainly think it is a factor and I'd prefer to stand to make sure I don't get walked on!
The only time I've ever seen everyone stand for the fireworks was during March 2015 when it was too cold and rainy to sit. Every other time everyone sits on Central Plaza which I prefer.
I've traditionally gone in January and everyone stood for Dreams. When I went in July I was surprised everyone was sat down an assumed they would stand up when it started. They didn't, except a few who got shouted at!
It's tricky as sitting everyone possibly gets a better view but less people fit.
A big hate of mine is people near the front putting a child on their shoulders. Once someone who was literally standing right at the front did it!
I sat down once for Dreams and it took about an hour for my bum cheeks to regain their feeling and my hips to stop hurting! Never again! But I'm only 5ft 1" so I'm sure I'm easy to see over ;D
OK. Am in the parks at the moment and can honestly say Im a sitting convert! I love it I can see at last!! Dont hold out much hope at New Year tho!