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Title: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Ohana on May 14, 2016, 11:27:02 PM
Hey guys. I've just returned from my 6 day trip (cue floods of tears). We decided to use the shuttle bus service today to get back to the hotel to catch the magic shuttle, however we noticed a couple of people approach us to ask to give our park tickets so they could use them,obviously we refused but they carried on asking other people. Is this a normal thing to happen by the station? I found it frustrating because those tickets are pretty costly so to just expect a free one is so rude!
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: caspdex on May 14, 2016, 11:37:11 PM
I have had that, can't say it bothered me at all.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: fairymom on May 15, 2016, 12:57:46 AM
I would have been delighted if someone had approached me.  I had a spare 5 day ticket as I have an annual pass and on the last day I had 13 fast passes to get rid of. I ended up just going up to a random family and giving them away.  The ticket was wasted though.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: norhel on May 15, 2016, 06:15:44 AM
I belive I have heard of something similar earlier. Not sure if it was at DLP, but still. It might have been over at WDW.
And I think there was some talk about it being illegal. But don't quote me on it.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: caspdex on May 15, 2016, 08:25:25 AM
If Disney were that bothered with it, they should really up their use of the hand stamp system for leaving and re entering the park. In many visits I have never been checked . Maybe they will add a biometric check in the future, like WDW.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Ohana on May 15, 2016, 08:58:16 AM
Maybe it's only me who it annoyed then haha. I was just like.. I paid a lot for this trip so why should you then get my pass for free, also I wanted to keep my tickets for my memory tin :)

I'm not a mean person by the way, I don't want this to give off the wrong impression of me I was pretty tired when I wrote this post lol.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: msRavenswood on May 15, 2016, 09:00:42 AM
It's a common phenomenon. They ask for your tickets so they can resell them to people who haven't bought them yet.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: polar vixen on May 15, 2016, 09:26:26 AM
If it were just an adult if think it cheeky but we've had it happen a few times by a woman with a small child which makes me feel pretty awful cos the kid is sitting there waiting for the chance to go in. I don't like that
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: daddyof2 on May 15, 2016, 09:40:43 AM
I don't have an issue with people passing on stuff - we were "given" an inflatable dolphin on holiday last year by a family who were leaving and we passed it on when we left - but I don't like begging. In these cases, where I think someone will sell it on, it really irks me.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: ChipandDale99 on May 15, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
On my last trip in February we stayed in the Davy Crockett ranch. This meant leaving the park by the main entrance everyday. The people are there every day. They don't want the tickets to use for themselves, they want to sell them on in Paris. Disneyland Paris don't want them there but they are in the public bit of land outside the station. Armed police/army walk up and down around there which scares them off. One day as we left a man approached us. We said no thank you and he then followed us down to the car park until he saw the police and ran away.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: littlebitofpixiedust on May 15, 2016, 10:15:22 AM
In all the years I've never experienced this, however I don't really think it's right to stand there or approach people asking for your tickets  ::) I think it's a different story if you maybe see somebody and decide to ask around if it'd be any use to people (that maybe waiting at gate)

A lovely man at chessington (UK park) some years ago see me and my son in the line to purchase our tickets approached me and gave me he's unwanted ticket, thought that was really kind!

I've given my fastpasses when we have stayed in the Disneyland hotel before when we haven't used them and I'd be more than happy to make use of my park ticket also, but like you say with that they could be selling for money? Also I don't think DLP would appreciate Us participating in this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: bad-pink-tink on May 15, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
I would totally advise AGAINST giving your tickets to anyone who approaches you, even if they have children. Whats being described here shows all the signs of the organised crime gangs of Romany Gipsies. They use children to play on your emotions.

You think you are doing a good thing by giving your ticket to a family so the child can experience Disney BUT you are not. That child will NOT get to experience the park like your child, going on the rides etc.  The adults will either sell the ticket on or use the ticket to enter the park to steal from park guests. They use children to cover up the pick pocketing and theft.

These activities are totally illegal and French Police are aware and on to it, but it is very hard to actually catch them in the act.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: stifle on May 15, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: bad-pink-tink on May 15, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
I would totally advise AGAINST giving your tickets to anyone who approaches you, even if they have children. Whats being described here shows all the signs of the organised crime gangs of Romany Gipsies. They use children to play on your emotions.

You think you are doing a good thing by giving your ticket to a family so the child can experience Disney BUT you are not. That child will NOT get to experience the park like your child, going on the rides etc.  The adults will either sell the ticket on or use the ticket to enter the park to steal from park guests. They use children to cover up the pick pocketing and theft.

These activities are totally illegal and French Police are aware and on to it, but it is very hard to actually catch them in the act.
Exactly. Do not give away used park tickets!
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Zee79 on May 15, 2016, 12:56:49 PM
Totally agree with not giving your tickets away. like Ohana said we save hard for these tickets so I don't want to sound mean but why should some get it for free? Would my children get this I don't think so, we don't have lots of money so save hard for these trips why should someone get the ticket to make a profit from it? If they truely want to visit then they need to do what everyone else does & save even if it takes a year or two to do so.
Yes it's nice when someone does a nice deed & gives you something but not when there is a profit to be made. I've been given things like parking tickets, items on holiday & I've done the same in return.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Ohana on May 15, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Yeah the way they do it is totally dodge. I don't mind someone approaching me to give me a used stub, and I'd do the same in some situations but these people are just depressing.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: samuelvictor on May 15, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: bad-pink-tink on May 15, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
I would totally advise AGAINST giving your tickets to anyone who approaches you, even if they have children. Whats being described here shows all the signs of the organised crime gangs of Romany Gipsies. They use children to play on your emotions.

You think you are doing a good thing by giving your ticket to a family so the child can experience Disney BUT you are not. That child will NOT get to experience the park like your child, going on the rides etc.  The adults will either sell the ticket on or use the ticket to enter the park to steal from park guests. They use children to cover up the pick pocketing and theft.

These activities are totally illegal and French Police are aware and on to it, but it is very hard to actually catch them in the act.

Unfortunately, I feel like this is 100% accurate. Though it feels "racist" to pin these kind of accusations on any particular group, I have seen this reported in numerous credible news websites and documentaries and it is a very common tactic within certain areas of these communities to use young children and women to commit this and similar crimes.

And yes, you are breaking the law by reselling any kind of single user ticket...

I wish that Disney could have more control over what happens in the public areas near the parks, though I know they have little legal re-course for doing so.  :'(
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: caspdex on May 15, 2016, 09:19:02 PM
As I have said before, if Disney really used there UV  handstamp system for park re- entry, then tickets given away by guests leaving in the afternoon, would be totally worthless.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Slimy yet satisfying on May 16, 2016, 09:02:11 AM
I agree. Do not give your tickets away. This is a ruse. Woman with children have been known to steal prams with all your shopping outside of rides. Looks less suspicious with a child. They are not waiting for kindness for a fun day out, they are waiting for a free opportunity to get into the park to steal. They often hang around on the path between Annettes Diner and the car park drinks machines ( toilets). Your good deed could turn into a nightmare for another guest...do not fall for it!
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: ChipandDale99 on May 16, 2016, 08:34:39 PM
Quote from: caspdex on May 15, 2016, 09:19:02 PM
As I have said before, if Disney really used there UV  handstamp system for park re- entry, then tickets given away by guests leaving in the afternoon, would be totally worthless.

Unfortunately I still don't think they would work. As the tickets are hopper tickets and can be used to enter and re-enter as many times to the different parks how would the CMs know if it was a re-entry or entering for the first time for the day. The stamp thing is phasing out as it was really only used for tickets that could only be used once.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: caspdex on May 16, 2016, 10:05:25 PM
They changed the design of the stamp daily. If the ticket was used to enter either park for the second and subsequent visits that day, if you didn't have the correct stamp , you didn't get in.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: caspdex on May 16, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
The use of each and every ticket will be recorded, be it for entry, FPs etc.
Title: Re: Dodgy Happenings by the Station?
Post by: Ohana on May 16, 2016, 11:24:24 PM
This is why I kind of thing Magic Bands are a good idea... but at the same time, it's quite creepy how controlling it is, Disney taking your fingerprint, and you using this one thing which can track everything you do... I like the freedom of the paper passes, as annoying as they can get. Plus like people say, it's nice to share fast passes when you don't want them, but the magicbands would stop the touting and what not so I suppose it's a bit of a double edged sword..