BBC news reports that a gunman has been arrested at a Disney hotel.....!
Hotel new York supposedly with 2 hand guns & ammo, put it through the security scanners!!! Not very bright but at least you know security measures are working. Are they testing the security? Why the hotels & not the parks? Woman with him ran off. He is unknown to police & intelligent services. Could just be a copy cat.
Guess its just wait & see time, I'm still going in July.
At least we know the security is working :)
We will still be going in July also.
Are there even X-ray machines at the hotels? I've read some places it was at the hotel, and others that it was at the park gates. Also his car has been found in the car park and has been cordoned off.
Sky news has it as being at the Hotel New York that's all I know
Maybe someone who was there recently can say if there was X-ray machines at the hotels
I just saw on Sky News that the man & woman have been arrested - and yes, Sky News is saying it's the Hotel New York.
I was right not to doubt on security at Disneyland Paris, very well done guys!
Yes there are X Ray machines at the hotels. We were there in November and they were putting all bag through the scanners.
I hope they continue to step up security in future, I've not been since the changes but does everyone have to go through one of these metal detector checks or do they choose people at random? If not then everyone should.
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I'm surprise that off site hotels don't have x-way machines. I'm heading to Disneyland soon as well in like a week.
There was an xray machine out by the front of the Sequoia Lodge, that all arriving guests had to use.
Whilst it's shocking, it's good to hear that their tight security measures are working and we'll worth it.
And yes there are xray machines under the new DLP by Fantasia gardens.
Thats good to hear of increased security at hotels too. Last time we where at HNY the only security was entering downtown not at hotel. Hope they are doing this for DLH too, we did no checks there at all in 2014.
Defo hotel New York. My friend was working when it happened.
I go in 17 days and I'm staying in the HNY..
Well done to the security staff!
We were at the Hotel NY in Oct/Nov 15. All luggage is xrayed upon arrival and anyone with hand luggage entering the Village from the hotel has to pass through security/xray to get in. The security seemed pretty tight when we were there and I expect they will ramp it up even more now. I can't wait to go back this year and this won't put me off!
We were at DLP last week. Security at the parks were definately increased. At the Cheyenne were we stayed there were security officers patrolling and one evening when we were in the shop a police sniffer dog came in and sniffed all around.
Well done security on stopping this man.
Am I the only one who's now nervous to go? We went last year and it was just after the attacks but this really brings it closer to home. I know for a fact Santa Fe hotel doesn't scan luggage so there's no stopping someone going mad with some guns there, my mum is telling me to cancel and even my partner is now having doubts... He feels that it'll now be seen as an easy target and be very likely to be attacked.
Quote from: Ohana on January 28, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Am I the only one who's now nervous to go? We went last year and it was just after the attacks but this really brings it closer to home. I know for a fact Santa Fe hotel doesn't scan luggage so there's no stopping someone going mad with some guns there, my mum is telling me to cancel and even my partner is now having doubts... He feels that it'll now be seen as an easy target and be very likely to be attacked.
Everyones different Ohana.
It won't put me off & i fly this Sunday. Security will only be tightened because of this & it will be one of the safest places to be.
Quote from: Ohana on January 28, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Am I the only one who's now nervous to go? We went last year and it was just after the attacks but this really brings it closer to home. I know for a fact Santa Fe hotel doesn't scan luggage so there's no stopping someone going mad with some guns there, my mum is telling me to cancel and even my partner is now having doubts... He feels that it'll now be seen as an easy target and be very likely to be attacked.
I'm going this Monday, staying in the Santa Fe. I've heard all hotels have x-ray machines, is this incorrect??
I believe all Disney hotels scan luggage.
Quote from: Ohana on January 28, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Am I the only one who's now nervous to go? We went last year and it was just after the attacks but this really brings it closer to home. I know for a fact Santa Fe hotel doesn't scan luggage so there's no stopping someone going mad with some guns there, my mum is telling me to cancel and even my partner is now having doubts... He feels that it'll now be seen as an easy target and be very likely to be attacked.
Not sure how this makes it seen as an easy target considering security services picked the guy up! If anything it shows security at Disney is tighter than most public places.
Apparently all of they hotels have luggage scanning now
We were at the Sequoia Lodge at the beginning of January.
All luggage was scanned upon arrival at the hotel.
Security at the park & village entrances was even tighter.
Thanks everyone.
Ohana, can I ask what makes you think the Santa Fe doesn't have luggage scanning?
I agree with everyone else that security will be high - I'm definitely not cancelling my trip.
According to reviews on. Trip Advisor the Santa. Fe does have luggage scanning.
What about luggage arriving through Disney Express is that scanned just out of sight?
I didn't get my luggage scanned when I arrived in November? We just wheeled them in, checked in and wheeled them to our rooms :S
At the moment the French police aren't even sure the man was a terrorist.
I think it shows just how tight security is at Disney. I'm going in three weeks and still can't wait. This event (even though scary) has actually made me feel more happy about the level of security.
Quote from: Ohana on January 29, 2016, 12:25:58 AM
I didn't get my luggage scanned when I arrived in November? We just wheeled them in, checked in and wheeled them to our rooms :S
November is when the attacks took place so they didn't have all the new security checks in place. it probably has changed now.
Quote from: Karen101 on January 28, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
Apparently all of they hotels have luggage scanning now
When i went Cheyenne earlier this month there were no scanners.
There was a scanner at newport bay when i went in dec.
Im not sure how scanning luggage is sufficient after all you can nip to your car and bring anything to your room straight from the car park. They dont search your car or any bags of purchases from the park. Most of the 2 star hotels dont even require you to go through reception to access your room, for example Santa Fe is a open walk from the car park or indeed from any othef hotel. This also applies to offsite partner hotels for example Kyriad, zero scanning there and if security is in reception it us easily bypassed.
It strikes me as odd that this muppet chose a hotel with a scanner and then chose to scan his luggage when there were options to avoid all security.
Dutch media report two things:
- the woman who was with him and fled yesterday has been arrested in their home in Paris;
- the guy stated he carried the guns to defend himself as he "felt not secure".
So if I am correct, he was a muppet afraid of muppets?
I was at the Parks in January staying off site and the security getting into the actual parks was pretty gnarly. Bags through scanners, take off your jacket and unzip hoodie, empty your pockets into trays and a metal detector, the works!!
Like ChipandDale99 said, that level of security and the fact that they caught someone makes me feel a lot better about it. Hopefully it will turn out he wasn't trying to hurt anyone, just another idiot of thinks carrying guns makes you safer. That would mean DLP wasn't being targeted and the security works. That's a Twofer!
Quote from: Slimy yet satisfying on January 29, 2016, 09:44:14 AM
So if I am correct, he was a muppet afraid of muppets?
I just choked on my coffee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I think that this shows that the security measures are working.
I have always felt really safe at Disneyland Paris. I noticed last year that security had been stepped up considerably and by the sounds of it, it is even higher now.
Don't forget also that there will be a lot of security measures 'behind the scenes' that we can't see that are also keeping us safe.
This certainly wouldn't put me off visiting the parks.
Hi tru life. Hope you and your girlfriend enjoyed your trip glad all worked out for us..
When we were leaving salon mickey in january a guy had hopped over the fence between the back door of salon mickey and the wall of main st station. He was really scruffy lad in his late teens so was probably a thief rather than anything more sinister. They must gave seen him on CCTV as security was waiting for him. As he lowered to the ground they absolutely flattened him! He didnt put up a fight just went limp, heavy and awkward. Last we saw of him they had upended him and were carrying him off by his belt loops bum up in the air!
Quote from: True-lifeadventures on January 29, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
I was at the Parks in January staying off site and the security getting into the actual parks was pretty gnarly. Bags through scanners, take off your jacket and unzip hoodie, empty your pockets into trays and a metal detector, the works!!
This is the only mention I've seen from anybody about people themselves being searched - scanning bags is ok unless somebody is carrying a gun & ammo in their pocket, so I'm very pleased to hear they search coats, pockets, etc. as well.
I'm already used to strict security measures at football matches, since the November attacks, and being 'body searched' on the approach to stadia, so hearing this actually pleases me as I'll know that whilst we're within the security perimeter of the Parks we'll be able to forget the dark tones of the outside world. Which is a big part of why we all go to DLP anyway!
Again shows how tight security is. You know cctv is in the park but don't think about it as they don't make it obvious for that reason. If it is highly visible people would know what to target in the parks. We have no idea how many 'visitors' are actually security but it reassuring to know they take it very seriously & there measures are working.
The last few times we have been there has been some lack of security in that people push through the entrances quickly with bags so don't have to be searched not anything malicious just wanting to get in the park & not liking to queue. Security themselves talking to each other not paying attention at times either but I know with it being winter time they did check the majority of people themselves by patting them down & searching hand bags if they weren't put through scanners.
Quote from: Sulley's Arms on January 29, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: True-lifeadventures on January 29, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
I was at the Parks in January staying off site and the security getting into the actual parks was pretty gnarly. Bags through scanners, take off your jacket and unzip hoodie, empty your pockets into trays and a metal detector, the works!!
This is the only mention I've seen from anybody about people themselves being searched - scanning bags is ok unless somebody is carrying a gun & ammo in their pocket, so I'm very pleased to hear they search coats, pockets, etc. as well.
I'm already used to strict security measures at football matches, since the November attacks, and being 'body searched' on the approach to stadia, so hearing this actually pleases me as I'll know that whilst we're within the security perimeter of the Parks we'll be able to forget the dark tones of the outside world. Which is a big part of why we all go to DLP anyway!
We arrived on the Monday after the attacks, we were asked to open our car boot and roof box before we got in the the sql car park. All our bags were scanned before getting into the hotel. Bags checked going to and from the village and when the parks eventually opened on the Wednesday they were searching most people but everyone had to open thier jackets and empty pockets. Pretty much everyone had metal detector run by them.
Quote from: Karen101 on January 28, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
Apparently all of they hotels have luggage scanning now
Not sure how they'd scan luggage at the Cheyenne where luggage doesn't pass through a central point. We transported our luggage straight from the car to our block.
Quote from: Slimy yet satisfying on January 29, 2016, 09:44:14 AM
So if I am correct, he was a muppet afraid of muppets?
Even more of a Muppet then because they're only found at Disneyland and Walt Disney World!
Quote from: cazspence on January 29, 2016, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: Sulley's Arms on January 29, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: True-lifeadventures on January 29, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
I was at the Parks in January staying off site and the security getting into the actual parks was pretty gnarly. Bags through scanners, take off your jacket and unzip hoodie, empty your pockets into trays and a metal detector, the works!!
This is the only mention I've seen from anybody about people themselves being searched - scanning bags is ok unless somebody is carrying a gun & ammo in their pocket, so I'm very pleased to hear they search coats, pockets, etc. as well.
I'm already used to strict security measures at football matches, since the November attacks, and being 'body searched' on the approach to stadia, so hearing this actually pleases me as I'll know that whilst we're within the security perimeter of the Parks we'll be able to forget the dark tones of the outside world. Which is a big part of why we all go to DLP anyway!
We arrived on the Monday after the attacks, we were asked to open our car boot and roof box before we got in the the sql car park. All our bags were scanned before getting into the hotel. Bags checked going to and from the village and when the parks eventually opened on the Wednesday they were searching most people but everyone had to open thier jackets and empty pockets. Pretty much everyone had metal detector run by them.
This is good to know. I'll be able to reassure DW who was a little concerned last night, as we go in 2 weeks :D
Here is a link to the latest update on the story:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-who-went-run-after-7267517
Quote from: billy on January 29, 2016, 01:14:23 PM
Here is a link to the latest update on the story:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-who-went-run-after-7267517
Interesting, thank you for the update - I hadn't seen this yet :)
We are literally on the way home now so were there Thursday when it happened, we had no idea about it until a family member from home text to see if we was all ok. We did see that on that Thursday they did ask for your room key when you walked from Disney village to the hotels, but they didnt today as we walked through. There is a lot of security around the park bag search and hotels. There is definitely no baggage scan at the Cheyenne however there is at the Newport bay club as we pulled up there on magical express. Also as we were leaving the Cheyenne the entrance to new York hotel was full of police in cars and on foot and also unmarked black cars literally covering the road. I was a little worried when I heard but I felt totally safe in the actual park, they use a body scanner wand that they wave all over you plus the baggage search, and also had about 4 police dogs in the square between Eurostar and park search bit. The airport was also crawling with police both normal and armed and security check was very strict I had to be swabbed on my hands both sides and my belt area and also my bag got pulled off to be swabbed for explosives residue, although unsure if this is the norm at the airport as have never flown before.
Latest news from public prosecutor's office:
http://news.yahoo.com/armed-man-disneyland-paris-no-longer-terror-suspect-204457233.html
For me this is not typical terrorist behaviour. They would have done their homework before any attack attempt, They would have done research and visited the location to see security measures and then work out the best possible time and location to attack. The other reason for me is why have the weapon in a case and not on your person? As said before the weapon could have been left in a vehicle and collected later.
Please follow the following link for how to stay safe during a weapons attack. The video is focused on an office environment but can also be used whilst on holiday, and was used recently by a Welsh Police officer on holiday caught up in the recent attack in Tunisia. We use this video during Project Griffin Counter Terrorism seminars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jxOXbpTmnk
Never the less, praise must go to the emergency services for their swift and covert handling of the situation.