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Title: Selfie sticks
Post by: stifle on June 14, 2015, 12:40:45 PM
It appears from Twitter that selfie sticks will be banned in the park from next month.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: sarahh83 on June 14, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
i can understand on rides them being banned as it is somewhat dangerous

however .... to take decent group photos i feel reluctant to keep asking people who are busy enjoyign their holiday, so for me a selfie stick is perfect for those occasions!!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: TattyOwl1 on June 14, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
We were at DLP 3 weeks ago and was really surprised at the amount of selfie sticks. To be honest, they were a bit of a nuisance. We were on 'IASW' and someone was holding them out for the entire ride which meant we couldn't always see everything. A lot of People were holding them at arms length and we saw Ppl having to dive out the way to avoid walking into them. There was also a man who was using a selfie stick to film in the Emporium. His girlfriend called his name and he swung round and knocked a display flying. The cast member did not look amused!!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Mileto on June 14, 2015, 10:51:10 PM
Good decision. They destroy other people's experiencies. The sticks are used too aggreive, without taking care of others visitors. I had problems to see well durind Dreams. Had to search better place which took time. This wouldn'd be the case when these sticks are used on the level of the head.

And I had never problem making fotos of others, makes me even happier to see other'shappy faces.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Spacepilot on June 15, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
Good! Ban them.
It worked fine in the last 20 years without them, and it also will in the future...
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: msRavenswood on June 15, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
The ban will be effective on rides only. Fair decision, since it's dangerous for people riding along those who are using selfie sticks. Overall, I find selfie sticks quite annoying but I get it that some people are too reluctant to give their camera to strangers or are too shy to ask someone else in order to have their picture taken.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 15, 2015, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: Spacepilot on June 15, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
Good! Ban them.
It worked fine in the last 20 years without them, and it also will in the future...

THIS!
I completely agree.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Alberto Frog on June 16, 2015, 02:01:04 AM
Be interesting to see if the ban is actually enforced.  After all, smoking is meant to be banned as well...
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyRon on June 16, 2015, 07:30:16 AM
Quote from: Alberto Frog on June 16, 2015, 02:01:04 AM
Be interesting to see if the ban is actually enforced.  After all, smoking is meant to be banned as well...

Agreed, I'll wait to see if it's enforced, otherwise it's quite useless.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: grovesie on June 16, 2015, 08:07:06 AM
I have a feeling that the ban will only apply to rides :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 16, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
And even then, it's really hard to enforce. If someone has their smartphone and stick in their bag and they take it out on the ride itself once it's going, it'll be hard to stop them, not to say impossible.
Some rides can be stopped so they can scold the culprit, but things like rollercoasters, not so much, and yes, you'll get people stupid enough to use it on there.

So yeah, I doubt there'll be much actual enforcement of this rule, it'll be just be like the smoking one.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Mileto on June 16, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
They have to do a total ban, otherwise we have all the situations you gave as an example.
And doing so, they will "catch" all the sticks at the scanners and not allow them in.
Hard topic anyway!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 16, 2015, 12:42:17 PM
It's like you said: total ban and catch them at the scanners.
I'm pretty sure a selfie stick will show up.
If it's not allowed then it's not allowed.

I don't even want to know what kind of selfie stick induced misery it'll be during peak season.

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: grovesie on June 16, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: HildeKitten on June 16, 2015, 12:42:17 PM
It's like you said: total ban and catch them at the scanners.
I'm pretty sure a selfie stick will show up.
If it's not allowed then it's not allowed.

These sticks are small enough to fit in a pocket. Unless the security screening has changed since I last went they can stay in pockets and not get discovered
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 16, 2015, 04:47:43 PM
Well in that case, if people smuggle them in whilst knowing they're breaking the rules, then a CM would be entirely in their right to ask them to go bring it to the baggage service next to guest relations, or return it to their hotel or whatever when they are caught using them in the parks.
But of course, that would be the same as telling people to put out a cigarette, which is also not happening.

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: stifle on June 25, 2015, 11:41:28 PM
There were about a dozen men selling selfie sticks and Eiffel Tower trinkets in front of the railway station on Sunday. They really are rather irritating.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: danogian on June 26, 2015, 01:45:41 PM
This webpage suggests that the ban will eventually be total at all Disney parks.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2015/06/breaking-selfie-sticks-to-be-completely-banned-from-walt-disney-world-theme-parks-not-just-on-theme-park-attractions/ (http://wdwnt.com/blog/2015/06/breaking-selfie-sticks-to-be-completely-banned-from-walt-disney-world-theme-parks-not-just-on-theme-park-attractions/)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPWonders (Banned) on June 26, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: danogian on June 26, 2015, 01:45:41 PM
This webpage suggests that the ban will eventually be total at all Disney parks.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2015/06/breaking-selfie-sticks-to-be-completely-banned-from-walt-disney-world-theme-parks-not-just-on-theme-park-attractions/ (http://wdwnt.com/blog/2015/06/breaking-selfie-sticks-to-be-completely-banned-from-walt-disney-world-theme-parks-not-just-on-theme-park-attractions/)

It's not just that blog, it's official.
From July 1st the ban will be in the entire DLP park. It will also be mentioned on the entertainment programme.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: stifle on June 26, 2015, 03:07:51 PM
No harm — if it's actually enforced...
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 26, 2015, 04:06:29 PM
Agreed!
I'm totally for a total ban on them, I just fear it'll be like the ban on smoking: utterly unenforced.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: msRavenswood on June 26, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
If they confiscate them before entering the park then I think it will be successful. Then they can have them back when they leave the parks for the day.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 26, 2015, 04:17:59 PM
That would work, but somehow I don't see DLP wanting to put in quite so much effort.
Likely they'll just tell people to return them to their room/car etc.
It would be practical if they had lockers or some such where people that arrived by public transport for the day could leave theirs in before they pass the bag check.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: msRavenswood on June 26, 2015, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: HildeKitten on June 26, 2015, 04:17:59 PM
That would work, but somehow I don't see DLP wanting to put in quite so much effort.
Likely they'll just tell people to return them to their room/car etc.
It would be practical if they had lockers or some such where people that arrived by public transport for the day could leave theirs in before they pass the bag check.

I've read that the sticks will be held at the Guest Relations office and be returned to their owner when they are ready to leave the park, so even for those who haven't travelled by car don't have to worry about lockers, they can leave them there.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 26, 2015, 08:02:31 PM
That's really good!

I'm glad to hear that DLP seems to do an actual effort to enforce the ban.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Discovery_Mountain on June 29, 2015, 03:55:39 PM
This is good news.  It's a little annoying seeing that quite a few of the news articles covering this are implying that Disney are wanting people to stop taking their own photos when the truth is that they almost had a serious accident at DCA and probably have had more near misses at other locations too which just proved to Disney that they can't enforce a partial ban its needs to be all or nothing.

A lot have reported on it properly though and it does seem like a lot of people are very in favour of the ban and it's only a few who have issues.

We will have to wait and see if the tabloids start publishing things like 'Holiday ruined when Disney took away my Selfie Stick' or 'I was forced to ask a strange to take our photo which left me with blah blah blah...'
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Komble on June 29, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
As I have said before, it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured with one of these! It's essentially just a metal pole and it could probably cause some serious damage if it was to hit a young child accidentally or bought out on a ride (I'd hate to think what would happen if it hit the scenery on a sharp turn...). I almost got hit with a selfie stick once so maybe I am just bitter!

If anyone approached me and asked me to take their picture I'd be happy to! In fact in the past when I've been asked I usually take multiple photos, making sure the angles are good and the people are happy before I move on - it takes about a minute and it's always appreciated (I wish others would do the same... I have a lovely photo of myself and my boyfriend outside the Notre Dame where half our heads are missing and it's blurry)

I hope it's enforced, although judging from past experiences with smokers I worry...
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 29, 2015, 09:15:25 PM
People need to start remembering that before the selfie stick, people had to be asked to take a photo of a group _all_ the time!
It's no big deal, the vast majority of guests is more than happy to help other guests out in taking a photo.
I'm the same as Komble, if someone asks me I'll do my best to take a nice photo, and will take several just to make sure that there's at least one good one there :)

And you know, you can always check the photo someone took for you, and if it's fail, just ask someone else a little later (. When I go on J-fashion meet we are nearly always reliant on the kindness of strangers for group shots. Some shots turn out better than others because of this of course, but they are always appreciated regardless (even the ones we end up deleting) :)

I guess a lot of people are just so used to their selfie sticks and set in their way they are now protesting having to do things "old school".
To be honest I don't think many people would actually care about the tabloids, or let tabloid stories influence them from going to DLP. And if people do choose to stay away because of the ban, then they're probably just the kind of people that would be a nuisance to others and the parks are better off without their presence :)

But yeah, wait and see in how far it'll be enforced.


Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Puffin on June 29, 2015, 09:23:42 PM
I'm not opposed to selfie sticks, but only to the irresponsible use of it. I think it can be great fun to use a selfie stick to take pictures from a bird's eye view or another original angle in front of the castle for example. And that's possible without bothering anybody. It feels like a drastic measure to ban the thing completely just because some people can't handle them with care.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 29, 2015, 10:34:02 PM
Sadly some people are so irresponsible that they endanger others, and that forces Disney to take drastic actions.
It is regrettable that all those that use their selfie sticks without bothering anyone else are getting punished along the way, I will agree with that, but I think we can all agree that safety should take priority in Disney.
It's only selfie sticks they are banning, it's not like we can't take photos anymore :)

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: grovesie on June 30, 2015, 08:14:08 AM
I am back in the parks tomorrow and will report on the selfie stick ban...........
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 30, 2015, 09:43:14 AM
Thanks! It'll be good to hear whether it's actually enforced or not!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: grovesie on June 30, 2015, 01:49:43 PM
The topic even made it into the BBC news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33311071
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on June 30, 2015, 05:12:30 PM
I suppose that it's positive that the media are picking up on it, that way people visiting are more likely to be informed of the ban.

Havng made the news, I suppose that DLP will be more "forced" to actually enforce the ban also. And hopefully they'll do the same with the smoking ban soon.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyRon on June 30, 2015, 07:48:55 PM
Josh of EasyWDW (@easywdw) tweeted today that Disney staff was handing out leaflets to visitors to inform them of the selfie-stick ban. I imagine they'll be doing the same at DLP per July 1st?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIv2YdhVEAATE27.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on July 01, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
Is it just selfie sticks? I use a monopod for my video camera when I'm filming Dreams, no way I can hold it steady for 15 minutes on a low light setting.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyRon on July 01, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: RockNRoller on July 01, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
Is it just selfie sticks? I use a monopod for my video camera when I'm filming Dreams, no way I can hold it steady for 15 minutes on a low light setting.

I assume camera stands are exempt. :) It's mainly selfie-sticks that are the issue, and I assume you're not planning to use your monopod on the rollercoaster rides. :P
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPWonders (Banned) on July 01, 2015, 10:59:49 AM
Quote from: RockNRoller on July 01, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
Is it just selfie sticks? I use a monopod for my video camera when I'm filming Dreams, no way I can hold it steady for 15 minutes on a low light setting.

It't not just selfie sticks.
It's any hand held camera/phone extension pole.
And they've put up signs around the entire resort that it's now prohibited.
Anyone who brought something like that with them, can leave them at Guest Storage.
If you still manage to take them with you into the park, you will be escorted to the exit to still drop them off at Guest Storage.

A selfie stick is a monopod by the way ;)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: grovesie on July 01, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
I arrived today... haven't seen any no self in stick signage. .. but 1 person waking about with one
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPWonders (Banned) on July 01, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: grovesie on July 01, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
I arrived today... haven't seen any no self in stick signage. .. but 1 person waking about with one

Signs are up at the walk up from the parking, at the bagage check, at all the hotels and at Disney Village.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on July 01, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
Couldn't hurt to put them up in the parks too.
But frankly the fact that people, even just the 1, have been seen using them in the park doesn't bode well for the ban getting enforced :(
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPWonders (Banned) on July 01, 2015, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: HildeKitten on July 01, 2015, 07:26:06 PM
Couldn't hurt to put them up in the parks too.
But frankly the fact that people, even just the 1, have been seen using them in the park doesn't bode well for the ban getting enforced :(

Don't jump to conclusions that quickly.
Just because someone saw 1 person with a selfie stick, doesn't mean they don't enforce it.
You don't know if that person wasn't send to Guest Storage maybe 10 minutes later to leave his/her selfie stick there.
And you have to give it more than one day. It takes time for a new rule to completely blend in at such a big resort.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: bad-pink-tink on July 02, 2015, 09:08:31 AM
I'm in California atm, and I was in Disneyland on July 1

1. When we drove in to the parking structure we were handed the above leaflet with our parking ticket.
2. As we got on the escalator down to the shuttle bus to the park there were no selfie sticks signs
3. As we walked to the shuttle bus there were no selfie stick signs
4. On the shuttle bus to Downtown Disney, as part of the usual Disney announcements we we were told no selfie sticks or go pro devices
5. As we walked through Downtown Disney to the park entrance there were no selfie sticks signs
6. At the bag check area, they were checking all bags for selfie sticks. They were collecting and ticketing all selfie sticks and go pro devices which people could collect when they were leaving at guest relations.

Disney in America is serious about  no selfie sticks in the parks, not just on the rides. CMs have been told if they see people using them, ie people have sneaked them past the bag check,  they have to ask guests to stop.

It should be easier in DLP as they have bag scanners but as we all know, CMs are lax about upholding rules!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on July 02, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: DLRPWonders on July 01, 2015, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: grovesie on July 01, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
I arrived today... haven't seen any no self in stick signage. .. but 1 person waking about with one

That's the problem though isn't it, if your using it whilst walking you're not paying attention to where you're going. I've previously seen people walk into things/people and in front of cars
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyGagaChick on July 15, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
I hate those selfie sticks with a passion. >:(

I am aware that Walt Disney World have banned them, not sure about DLP or the other Disney resorts.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on July 15, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
Don't get me started on them, today I saw several people make a total nuisance out of themselves with one, and only 1 person use hers responsibly.

They are completely banned in ALL Disney parks if I'm not mistaken, in any case they are in DLP.
And contrary to the smoking ban, apparently this ban is actually getting enforced!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: stifle on July 16, 2015, 08:22:16 AM
A notice about the ban is in the weekly programme so perhaps they are serious about it.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: NCC1701Q on July 29, 2015, 09:05:52 AM
Just got back from a seven-day-stay at DLP. Some observations:
- I saw very little people with selfie-sticks, however, the ones I saw were not addressed by CM's;
- the Eiffeltowers-/little toys-sellers just outside The Village were selling selfie-sticks. I saw one woman buying one, walking up to the security-check, getting told to leave it there and she rushed back to the seller, reprimanded him (very clearly) and got her money back!;
- it's not just selfiesticks in attractions that are dangerous: four Spanish guests who were in the two seats in front of me on Big Thunder Mountain managed to film and photograph (ofcourse WITH flash) the whole ride with a digital SLR (like a Canon 500D) - that is a big camera! The camera was passed around and I kept thinking it would hurt quite a bit if they dropped it and it would come flying backwards.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Puffin on July 29, 2015, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: NCC1701Q on July 29, 2015, 09:05:52 AM
- it's not just selfiesticks in attractions that are dangerous: four Spanish guests who were in the two seats in front of me on Big Thunder Mountain managed to film and photograph (ofcourse WITH flash) the whole ride with a digital SLR (like a Canon 500D) - that is a big camera! The camera was passed around and I kept thinking it would hurt quite a bit if they dropped it and it would come flying backwards.

maybe they should ban all people from Spain along with selfie sticks. ;)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Ohana on July 29, 2015, 09:35:11 PM
Good! Selfie sticks make me sad.

Who wants a whopping great metal pole ruining their photos? Not me!

Let's hope those ignorant enough to use them drop their phones out of them, that'll teach them to break the rules.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: George Geef on July 29, 2015, 11:10:10 PM
I've just got back from staying at DLP and they gave out the leaflets about selfie sticks every day whilst driving into the car park.  There were also signs about them at the security check.

I saw a few selfie sticks in the park, but not many,  The ones I saw were mainly during the Disney Dreams, but I also saw a handful in use during day time.

I didn't see any cast members telling people not to use them on these few occasions though.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on July 30, 2015, 06:44:54 PM
I think that if CMs don't start telling people off now, it'll be like the smoking ban soon enough: there on paper but not implemented.
I guess a serious accident needs to happen that gains them some serious negative publicity in popular press before they actually enforce both the selfie stick and the smoking ban XD
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on August 02, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
Just been talking to guest services about this, the official line is after several incidents including:

1) Lost camera phones and selfie sticks whilst riding on roller coasters.
2) People waving selfie sticks in other guests faces to get a better view of the parade.
3) People walking into things and out in front of moving vehicles.

The decision was made to ban selfie sticks. I then asked about monopods that are fixed securely by a threaded bolt so people could film Disney Dreams and was told that as this is not a selfie stick but a piece of professional equipment, reflected in the price difference, they felt monopods and tripods would be allowed. The cast member concerned is checking and will get back to me. I shall post the update when it comes through.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: A&S&O on August 10, 2015, 06:28:30 PM
Saw a couple of people with selfiesticks in the park today.

One couple are in for a surprise when they view their romantic selfie. We saw a group of people pulling faces in the background. We found it hilarious!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on August 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
Ladies and Gents I share with you the official reply from Guest Care at DLP

"We thank you for your e-mail and your interest in Disneyland® Paris.

Professional monopods are accepted, as well as tripods up to 25cm in height, only selfie-sticks and Go-Pro-sticks are now banned in our Parks.

We look forward to welcoming you very soon!"

Very pleased with this as it means my recording of Dreams wont be shaking all over the place.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on August 23, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
Don't get me wrong I would never use them on rides / attractions or in shops. But I'm kinda sad that at 8am when the park is dead I won't be able to take a decent group picture in front of the castle (especially since we actually planned to do this at a quiet time to avoid randoms in the back of the photo).

I think a blanket ban is a bit silly enforcement wise, like whats more dangerous smoking in a ride queue (last trip in the queue to BTM two Spanish people) or taking a photo with a selfie stick?! I can't see it being controlled by CMs any better than the smoking ban. Plus I reckon there are bigger issues with security than a selfie stick - its some idiots that are spoiling the fun for everyone else!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on August 23, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
I agree with you Rebecca, that it's probably not going to be very much better enforced than the smoking ban. And that REALLY should be enforced.
Frankly I think they should both be enforced.

The issue is indeed that some idiots are spoiling it all for everyone else. There's undoubtedly many people that use a selfie stick in a responsible way that doesn't bother another soul.
But there's also a whole wad of douchebags (pardon my language) that is quite happy to wave them about and be a hindrance or worst: a danger to others.

As for photos at 8am, well we all got on for absolute YEARS (decades and decades) without selfie sticks and we got by asking strangers to take photos then too.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: disneymagique on August 24, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
I was in the park two weeks ago, and wanted to use my (professional Manfrotto) monopod to film the parade. Unfortunately, I was told by two castmembers (one confirmed with the other), that I cannot use it in the park.

My (professional) tripod is almost 2 meters high, I used it many times for filming Disney Dreams and other firework shows. I'm wondering is they will complain about this two when I'm back next month.

If I cannot film anymore, then they are really killing my Disney spirit  :'(
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Puffin on August 24, 2015, 03:56:50 PM
I understand your sadness, Disneymagique. But I also understand if there's a ban on selfie sticks, that monopods are forbidden too. Just like there are people who would use selfie sticks in a really responsible way, I believe you handle your monopod with care. But there will also be people who will use that monopod in very dangerous way to get their camera closer to decorations or to get a birds eye view in crowded areas, and that's just as dangerous as irresponsible people handling selfie sticks. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on August 24, 2015, 06:11:55 PM
Disneymagique, maybe you can ask RockNRoller to forward you the email in which they confirm that professional monopods are allowed. Then next time you can show that to CMs that tell you you can't use it and prove that DLP indeed confirmed that you _can_ use them.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: disneymagique on August 25, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
I understand the reason, and I can respect this. The park must be a safe place for ALL guests.
Unfortunately, I only wish that the castmembers are better instructed.

I will send a e-mail to DLP, to confirm  :)

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on August 25, 2015, 02:50:58 PM
I'd be happy to forward the email on. I asked DLRP direct through the contact us link on the official website.
I have the same mono pod as you Disneymagique, only use it to film Dreams so I guess at night it wont be so easy to spot. you may have been unlucky as I guess there is a higher proportion of cast members around at parade times.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on August 25, 2015, 10:05:20 PM
Will let you know how the selfie stick ban is going after my trip this weekend and get any other gossip out of my CM friend - I will also be able to say that I stayed in Mickeys house after this weekend...  ;)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Mileto on August 26, 2015, 07:57:00 AM
Wishing you a memorable trip, Rebecca20! And we'll wait for the news and rumors.  :D
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: RockNRoller on August 27, 2015, 10:32:23 AM
Friend of mine has just returned and told me that on the 2nd day as he was using a selfie stick to film over the crowds at the parade a cast member asked him to lower it as he was blocking the view of others. The cast member then told him about the ban and suggested that he leaves the stick in his hotel room.
That sounds like a cast member enforcing the ban in a very sensible way.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyRon on August 27, 2015, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: RockNRoller on August 27, 2015, 10:32:23 AM
Friend of mine has just returned and told me that on the 2nd day as he was using a selfie stick to film over the crowds at the parade a cast member asked him to lower it as he was blocking the view of others. The cast member then told him about the ban and suggested that he leaves the stick in his hotel room.
That sounds like a cast member enforcing the ban in a very sensible way.

That's usually the best way to handle. Better to not escalate the situation unless absolutely necessary, most guests will understand the reasoning behind it and accept it. :)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on August 27, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Glad to hear that at least some CMs are enforcing the ban in such a sensible way :)
Hopefully they'll keep it up (and start enforcing the smoking ban too) :)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: roisind on September 02, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
im someone that suffers from anxiety and the thought of asking someone to take a picture for me makes me want to die inside.

also the thought of annoying anyone by using a selfie stick is horrible.

an old fashioned selfie will have to do :P
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 02, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
Nothing wrong with old fashioned selfies! ^^
If you're going with a friend, maybe you can ask them to ask a stranger to take a photo of you guys?
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: roisind on September 02, 2015, 08:09:37 PM
yeah im sure thats what we'll do :)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Sulley's Arms on September 03, 2015, 10:19:23 PM
Hi all,

we've been in DLP for the past couple of days and have seen loads of people using selfie sticks, and nobody has been asked to stop using them...

I did notice that the main signs outside DLH also reference leaving them in your hotel room.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 03, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
I read a trip report on character central where the poster also said that the ban isn't being enforced at all.
It's too bad that it's becoming yet another ban that they aren't enforcing.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Komble on September 03, 2015, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: HildeKitten on September 03, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
I read a trip report on character central where the poster also said that the ban isn't being enforced at all.
It's too bad that it's becoming yet another ban that they aren't enforcing.

What a shame... Like I said before, it's only a matter of time before something goes wrong!

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 04, 2015, 08:34:56 PM
And sadly it will take something going so spectacularly wrong that DLP has no other choice than to act on the ban and start enforcing it :(

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: arvidbux on September 08, 2015, 11:59:35 AM
Just got back of 4 days (Fri to Mon) and it is hit or miss with the ban on selfie sticks. There are signs all over the place (in the hotel, at the turnstiles, at the walk path to the two parks) but people still bring them in and  you can't tell me they don't see the signs.

The worst days for selfie sticks I noticed was Friday and Monday (Friday being the worst). No cast members said anything to people about the use of them. On Saturday I had fun just sitting on a bench and watch cast members walk up to people and telling them it was not allowed to use them in the park. This happened during the day but also at night during the fireworks. On Sunday I think I only saw one selfie stick.

What I did notice though is that only the "information" cast members walked up to people and told them not to use the selfie stick. All other cast members just didn't do anything.

I think that is also where the problem is. Cast members avoid confrontation and I guess mainly because they are scared the guest doesn't speak their language. Also the constant asking "but why" by guests is annoying.

Besides all this and Disney having to really enforce the ban, the problem also lies with guests. When you enter the park there is enough signage to tell you something isn't allowed and when you enter the park, you agree to the T&C set by the theme park. Don't be an ....... just be a nice visitor.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Puffin on September 08, 2015, 12:50:52 PM
I'm not defending the way DLP handles this situation, but just like with the smoking ban I guess the selfie ban isn't an easy one to enforce. In the first place it's the responsibility of the public to be compliant. I can't see this kind of trouble happening in Disneyland Japan, where everything is running so smoothly because everybody respects the rules like it should be.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: littlebitofpixiedust on September 09, 2015, 04:27:02 AM
I agree selfie sticks are a nuisance especially on rides, ruins other people's enjoyment.

But I keep reading about this "smoking ban" which as a very experienced guest to DLP I've not once heard of? There are smoking areas dedicated for smokers (like myself) around the park/s. where you're allowed to have a cigarette. I know this for a fact and have been to DLP around  30times (2-4 times a year)

Although I know some hate smokers in general and I'll probably get stick for being one  ::) many people do smoke especially Europeans. If there was a complete ban like there are in some places like a local farm I went to the other day in UK there are signs up telling you and I didn't see one other person smoke because the signage said NO smoking. I went out of the place as everyone else did into the carpark. So if they want to ban it they need to take steps too.

I'm not the kindkf smoker to light up where ever I like or one that does so waiting for dreams ect! I use the smoking areas although they themselves need to be a little more obvious I do think however that should be enforced more when I last went I see 2 men light up waiting for mark twain boat on the loading platform! How rude right next to other waiting guests!? I don't know people can make rules up it doesn't mean everyone will stick to them. I think the CMs probably try hard but gave up because as we all know some people can and always will be confrontational and rude their day is hard enough as it is I'm sure...

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: arvidbux on September 09, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Still it is a children's park. There is no need to walk around with a cigaret and everything that goes with it. I've seen people walking out of a ride in the last few days not even waiting for the turnstils, they just light the cigaret when they are technically still within the ride.

The smoking areas are shown on the map, just like people look for rides and restaurants, they can use the map to find the appropiate smoking area. And now that I look at the map myself, there are a lot of smoking areas. Especially when you compare it to DLR.

And in DLP's FAQ; http://www.disneylandparis.co.uk/faq/theme-parks/smoking-areas/

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Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 09, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
@Puffin: Whilst it is true that the public should just follow the rules, I think it is VERY easy to enforce both smoking and selfie stick ban. CMs simply have to go up to offenders, tell them there is a ban and people (in a polite and decent manner of course) to follow the rules. If people throw a strop or start an argument, well they can always be reminded of the fact that security can evict them off the property if they don't follow the rules.

@pixie dust: I wouldn't get on your case for you being a smoker. Especially not considering you smoke in the smoking areas. I think people should decide for themselves whether they smoke or not. But the fact is, that there IS a smoking ban. And the fact that smoking areas are advertised should, in my opinion at least, be a clear hint that people aren't allowed to smoke where ever they want in the parks.
It's clear from the selfie stick ban, which does have signs, that signs are just something that get ignored anyway, so frankly I think that if DLP did put no smoking signs up, it wouldn't change a thing.
Sure, CMs don't have a easy job, but that does NOT mean, nor excuse them just allowing people to break the rules. Addressing these people and asking them to stop it is part of their job. If they worry for their safety addressing certain guests then surely they can ask a security guard to come address a guest with them.

@arvid: agreed! Well aside with the fact that it's a children's park. Plenty of people go without kids, it really isn't just a kid's park ;) But that aside I completely agree.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPWonders (Banned) on September 10, 2015, 09:01:04 PM
I'm at DLP right now, and in the past couple of days I've seen a few CM's telling guests not to smoke.
Also there's an extra announcement now, together with the parade announcement, that selfie sticks aren't allowed.
So both rules are definitely enforced!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Mileto on September 11, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Good news, DLRPWonders!
Have a great time there, as always!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: MickeyAteMyCap on September 17, 2015, 07:00:43 PM
I'm shocked to learn that people are using Selfie sticks in Disneyland.

Do people have no manners?

I would never take any form of tripod with me to a public place because it's unfair; it just gets in people's way. I think that when you're visiting a public place like DLP, you should show some respect for the other visitors.

They've paid to be there too, so why should their experience be ruined by camera equipment getting in the way?

Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Jo68 on September 17, 2015, 07:52:49 PM
I've just come back yes selfie sticks were being used by lots of people I even saw someone wrapping it up in a jacket before getting to the bag search. Think they should be confiscated at that point maybe having to spend half hour filling out a reclaim form might put some off?
Smoking was awful, people walking around and standing in queues lots of French, Spanish and Italians. My concern was when the cigarettes being held down low when walking along so easy for a child to be burnt, or God forbid a costume catching
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 17, 2015, 09:49:47 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, until a serious incident happens with both smoking and selfie sticks, DLP is never going to consistently enforce it.
That's the sad reality.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: tigger1974 on September 24, 2015, 08:27:49 PM
When I was there last week there were selfie sticks everywhere so I don't think any kind of ban is being implemented which is a shame as they are quite annoying especially if someone holds it in front of you and blocks the view  :(
Still I do sympathise with the cast members as I think it must be very hard to enforce.
TTFN
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: vuk on September 25, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
selfie rods are evil. I am glad that they are prohibited in the park.

But I want to ask. when I go alone on the road and have me take a picture of who is allowed to use selfie bar just for a photo shoot with the characters?
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: bad-pink-tink on September 25, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: vuk on September 25, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
selfie rods are evil. I am glad that they are prohibited in the park.

But I want to ask. when I go alone on the road and have me take a picture of who is allowed to use selfie bar just for a photo shoot with the characters?

If you are going to DLP on a solo trip and meeting characters, there is always a CM "friend" with them. Thats part of their job, to take photos of the characters with people.

The same if you do a character meal on your own, just the CM with the character. Also its Disney, random strangers will often offer to take a photo of you if they see you struggling to take a selfie, or just ask random people, do you mind taking a photo of me. There is NO need for selfie sticks in a Disney Park
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: MickeyAteMyCap on September 25, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: bad-pink-tink on September 25, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: vuk on September 25, 2015, 12:14:02 PM
selfie rods are evil. I am glad that they are prohibited in the park.

But I want to ask. when I go alone on the road and have me take a picture of who is allowed to use selfie bar just for a photo shoot with the characters?

If you are going to DLP on a solo trip and meeting characters, there is always a CM "friend" with them. Thats part of their job, to take photos of the characters with people.

The same if you do a character meal on your own, just the CM with the character. Also its Disney, random strangers will often offer to take a photo of you if they see you struggling to take a selfie, or just ask random people, do you mind taking a photo of me. There is NO need for selfie sticks in a Disney Park
This. If you have a trust problem then that's YOUR fault.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Slimy yet satisfying on September 25, 2015, 11:56:42 PM
Im sure that your post wasnt intended to be rude but it certainly sounds it! Please dont use capital in reply to a question which has obvious translation errors, we dont want this forum to sound unwelcoming to non brits. The park is remember in France and many people visit forums that are not in their home language. I wouldnt fancy my skills on a French forum!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: HildeKitten on September 28, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
My husband and I just went last weekend, and whilst I did see some people using selfie sticks, I saw less than 10 doing so. Mind you, we didn't go to the parade or Dreams, so I don't know how bad it was then.
Sadly we didn't see any CMs addressing these people, nor did they address smokers (not that we saw many smokers either mind).

I was actually surprised I didn't see more people use selfie sticks or smoke in the parks, considering it was REALLY busy.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DLPZest on November 11, 2015, 08:33:30 PM
For those who get anxious about asking someone to take a picture of them; you don't always have to use words.

If you can muster up the courage to make eye contact with someone, "all" you have to do is smile and hold out your camera. I'm pretty sure most people will understand you want them to take a picture of you. If you want something in particular in the background I guess you could point/make general arm gesture to it and yourself.

I'm an introvert myself and at worst when someone asks me to take their picture, I worry a little that it won't be exactly the way they want it, but then realize that it would still be better than nothing. I always take at least 2 shots and ask for them to check (or point to the camera screen and say "ok?"). Someone asking me to take a picture has never taken me out of the magic or had any effect on my holiday experience, please remember that.

Oh and, I may be generalizing because I use a DSLR, if you're worried about bothering people during their holiday, if you see someone walking around with a DSLR (the big cameras with big lenses), they most likely love photography and would be more than happy to spend a minute helping you out.

As an aside, I loathe selfie sticks and reading about people losing them on rides is, quite frankly, frightening. What if it gets stuck on the tracks and the ride derails? People could die.

Banning monopods on the other hand seems kinda silly if that would be the case. Unlike tripods, they don't really take up extra space or hinder anyone's view. And using a monopod as a selfie stick? I dunno, that seems incredibly impractical. I for one would't be able to hold that entire, heavy, contraption steady enough to take a half way decent picture. On top of that I'd be terrified of someone knocking it out of my hands and dropping €1000+ of equipment on the ground...
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on November 11, 2015, 08:50:47 PM
I have to say we managed perfectly fine without a selfie stick on our last holiday - my new camera does have a flip up screen to use which did help for self timer as we went into the park to get photos at 8am when it was empty.

The trick I used is I asked another family if they wanted me to take their photo and then they always offered in return. My friend found it hilarious that I was essentially using them for my own benefit but hey, it definitely worked.

Another tip for Castle photos was to wait until near parade time (not too near) and while the CMs are waiting around ask them to take one. We got chatting away to an English CM and were showing him our shopping so it worked perfectly for us to ask for a cheeky photo while it was quieter!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: nathalie on November 11, 2015, 09:22:17 PM
I asked someone to take a picture of me and a character, the whole bunch standing around me looked at me like if I were an alien.
A selfie stick would have actually been easy at that moment, lol.

Last weekend still say enough of them, but not during parades and in rides, so that's good though.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on November 11, 2015, 09:26:49 PM
I must say characters seemed to enjoy it when we took selfies and pose with them! Probably because children didn't understand what to do and so they could have a bit more fun. A selfie stick would have been useful to slap people pushing in around the head though  >:(
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: aj2703 on November 14, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
Zzzz all old gits you lot are :-)

Personally i'd prefer it if they put the same energy into actually stopping people smoking in the park.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on November 14, 2015, 08:04:02 PM
Quote from: aj2703 on November 14, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
Zzzz all old gits you lot are :-)

Personally i'd prefer it if they put the same energy into actually stopping people smoking in the park.

I know, I bloody love selfie sticks but rules are rules. Smoking however makes me very very angry. Kill yourself but not my poor asthmatic lungs please!!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: abismummy on November 15, 2015, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: rebecca20 on November 14, 2015, 08:04:02 PM
Quote from: aj2703 on November 14, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
Zzzz all old gits you lot are :-)

Personally i'd prefer it if they put the same energy into actually stopping people smoking in the park.

I know, I bloody love selfie sticks but rules are rules. Smoking however makes me very very angry. Kill yourself but not my poor asthmatic lungs please!!

Completely agree. Even saw a man smoking in the inside queues!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Zee79 on November 15, 2015, 11:11:30 AM
Totally agree with the smoking!
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Karen101 on November 15, 2015, 12:40:53 PM
The smoking thing is terrible it was bad when we were there halloween 2014 ...

We are going in July 2016 and my mother who is a smoker is coming with us ... She wouldn't dream of smoking in line or anywhere other than the correct areas .....
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: Zee79 on November 15, 2015, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: Karen101 on November 15, 2015, 12:40:53 PM
The smoking thing is terrible it was bad when we were there halloween 2014 ...

We are going in July 2016 and my mother who is a smoker is coming with us ... She wouldn't dream of smoking in line or anywhere other than the correct areas .....

Family members used to smoke & even they said they would never smoke in queues. What I really hate is like what was said in a previous post when smokers keep their cigarettes away from them but in faces of other people. I'm physically sick with cigarette smoke plus I have asthma ( reason why my family members stopped) so I find it unbearable at times.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: never2old on November 25, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Why does every discussion about selfie sticks end up being about the smoking in the parks???  ::)
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyGagaChick on November 25, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
I guess I'll just have to suffer with sore elbows throughout my stay  8)

Are GoPros allowed?
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: stifle on November 25, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: DisneyGagaChick on November 25, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
I guess I'll just have to suffer with sore elbows throughout my stay  8)

Are GoPros allowed?

They are fine when walking around. Technically they are not permitted to be worn on rides in case they fall off and cause injury or damage to you or other guests, but cast members will often turn a blind eye if they are properly secured.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyGagaChick on November 25, 2015, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: stifle on November 25, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
They are fine when walking around. Technically they are not permitted to be worn on rides in case they fall off and cause injury or damage to you or other guests, but cast members will often turn a blind eye if they are properly secured.

Great thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: rebecca20 on November 27, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: never2old on November 25, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Why does every discussion about selfie sticks end up being about the smoking in the parks???  ::)

Because if they are enforcing one rule surely they should enforce them all? / Selfie sticks aren't a huge deal in comparison.

Quote from: DisneyGagaChick on November 25, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
I guess I'll just have to suffer with sore elbows throughout my stay  8)

Are GoPros allowed?

Never had an issue with go pros on rides - but ours was secured with a chest strap on Indiana and other upside down rides. Plus I've seen vlogs where people are using their phones to record on BTM so it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Selfie sticks
Post by: DisneyGagaChick on November 29, 2015, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: rebecca20 on November 27, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Never had an issue with go pros on rides - but ours was secured with a chest strap on Indiana and other upside down rides. Plus I've seen vlogs where people are using their phones to record on BTM so it shouldn't be a problem.

Great, thanks!  :D