Hi all.
What attractions do you think are better in DLP than in Orlando & which are worse?
Looking forward to your replies! :?:
I don't think any of them are worse! I've never been to WDW, but I've heard enough opinions I think to safely say that. All of the classics (POTC, BTM, HM, SM, IASW) seem far, far better in Paris. Orlando's attractions seem to generally be regarded as the worst of all the versions - at magic kingdom at least.
Even at the Studios, our RNRC gives a better ride experience, even if it doesn't have such an elaborate exterior. I don't know about the animation tours, but now that MGM's real production facilities have closed down and they demolished half of the tram tour route for Moteurs, even our dinky little STT is more worthwhile than the Orlando one.
Everything DLRP has that WDW also has, it does better. I suppose the only problem right now is the things DLRP doesn't have.
I think WDW's key advantage is simply size. From my point of view, WDW = quantity, DLRP = quality.
That's my view anyway, I'd like to hear what actual WDW visitors think...
that's a big statement Baloo! I also never was at WDW but they haven't build WDW at one day, so I wouldn't reduce WDW to only that.
The Magic Kingdom might be an exception, for the fact that MK was the fast alternative for walts real Walt Disney World.
But the fireworks at Epcot, fantasmic, the gread movie Ride at MGM, expedition: EVEREST, Kali river rapids at AK and a lot more are excellent attractions and i've heard many WDW visitors who were excited about the extremely detailed parks and great atmosphere.
Quote from: "Whoknew?"The Magic Kingdom might be an exception, for the fact that MK was the fast alternative for walts real Walt Disney World.
But the fireworks at Epcot, fantasmic, the gread movie Ride at MGM, expedition: EVEREST, Kali river rapids at AK and a lot more are excellent attractions and i've heard many WDW visitors who were excited about the extremely detailed parks and great atmosphere.
That's also a big statement to make, magic kingdom was by the way originally decided on for wdw by walt himself when he planned the resort :wink: . Great Movie ride also has been compared many times to Cinemagique, since it's rather similar just cinemagique pulls off the idea of history of cinema better (mostly due to great movie ride lacking in maintanence). Everest also I have heard to be an overrated big thunder type ride. Kali seems like the most boring and unimaginative river rapids since alton towers decided to place some in their park :lol: . Fantasmic and fireworks cannot really save a whole resort to be great and better than dlrp.
Personally due to the history of wdw I find it the most boring of all the resorts to think about. All the great ideas that seem to nearly happen get knocked down to nothing more than adequate. Western river expedition got shot out for a shortned and rather quick built potc. Everest was only made since a dragon land was also decided upon to reject from the ideas for animal kingdom.
WDW just seems like a money maker for the wdc to just have and not upkeep well.
I also have not been, but the world does not seem like one of disney's greatest imaginative ideas anyway.
Quote from: "Baloo"I think WDW's key advantage is simply size. From my point of view, WDW = quantity, DLRP = quality.
That's my view anyway, I'd like to hear what actual WDW visitors think...
the quality aspect has been gone for about 13 years in Paris (which will be back after TS and ToT open I'm sure)....
WDW (and DLRA) gets updates pretty regularly and most of the rides have been redone to new standards at a point where DLRP just maintenanced its rides... making all of DLRP original opening rides the oldest of all, and thus the worst.... all rides are running on 15 year old technology, while there have been a lot of breakthroughs in AA and conveyence methods that have been applied overseas.
I haven't been to WDW myself, but keep myself pretty updated, and I've visited DLRA twice in two years, in which they completely redid most of the rides over there, So every ride we did overthere was different from 20 months earlier, which leavesme with the following conclusion in which rides are better or worse:
better @ DLRA and WDW:
Haunted Mansion holiday - love the theme and superbly done
Indiana Jones - This rides ROCKS!!!! a jeep trek through a temple... WOW. (Dinosaur in WDW)
Pirates of the caribbean - Sparrow Rules!!! and the new effects are amazing
Splash Mountain - Why hasn't this been built in Paris yet??????
Soarin' - the only ride that is a more than worthy successor of a Circlevision theater...
Tough to be a bug - 3D-movie with animatronics and real involment with the audience
Muppetvision 3D - same as above, only with muppets.. they have actual pinguins as an orchestra which are IN the theater and not on screen.
Monsters Inc. - simple but great for kids (and adults to)... bring it to france please!!!
Better in DLRP:
BTM - Faster, Bigger and more original because of the Island.
Frontierland - the only one of all the resorts that has a complete storyline that covers all of the land
Star Tours - the only version that actualy is convincing enough that you on an interstellar spaceport... all the others are the same but not convincing enough to get the spaceport thing going.
Space Mountain - even with M2 this one has more to offer, while the original version from 75 and the anaheim version are pretty fun to.
La Chateau - the rest are small and too european to be impressive
POTC's location - while DLRP's version is currently technicaly the oldest around, the fortress is the most eleborate of all the versions.
Peter Pan - same as in US but with double the seats.
Main street USA - almost the same.. DLRA is charmingly small and breathes walt all the way, and WDW's look preety much the same, DLRP's version has the wonderfull arcades, which are great on busy days to provide shelter from rain of just to avoid crowds.
all the rest is pretty much the same (or I haven't experienced yet).
If I may offer a reply... In October, I was at WDW, and I was at Disneyland in California in April. (I have not been to DLP since 1998, however.)
I would say that I believe that Baloo is correct except in the case of Phantom Manor/Haunted Mansion. They are two pretty different versions in many ways, and they both are good and different in their own right.
In my opinion as far as the three Magic Kingdom parks go, DLP's is the most beautiful and detailed, both attractions and general atmosphere. WDW's is the largest and least intimate but has some of the early 70s attractions not at DLP or no longer at DL. The original California Disneyland has the most attractions- many of the top attractions are almost as good as DLP's, lots of detail, and feels very warm. The number of unique attractions and 50 years of foliage growth give it a feel the other two parks do not have.
Now, if I had to build my favorite Disney resort, it would have DLP's Magic Kingdom, WDW's Epcot and Animal Kindom, and Tokyo DisneySea!
That should reveal alot of how I really feel! :D
Quote from: "mstaft"if I had to build my favorite Disney resort, it would have DLP's Magic Kingom, WDW's Epcot and Animal Kindom, and Tokyo DisneySea!
That should reveal alot of how I really feel! :D
You've just created my Disney dream.... notify me when you open the resort :D....
nah... I would have DLA's MK and change epcot for Disney Studios Florida.
Well where do I start. I have just found your group and have enjoyed reading all that has been said for the past 10 days. As to your question, which is the better of the parks. This is a big big question; I have logged up to 30 times in Paris and 14 in wdw. So I do have a good insight to both groups.
Whilst Paris is the newest of the 3 parks she is the one who has lost out to budget many times. Florida has one above all other sectors and only Tokyo with its own bank funding has beaten the Americans.
Our rides like big thunder and pirates are different and very good, but where we are winning is the items we are the first on the motors and action in America it sucks. And this is why it is better in Europe than in America the same goes for animagic and cinemagic that is nothing like what they have in America.
But to give the Americans there due when you go there and it is in the 80s sunny and warm, or cold and grey in France then Florida will always win. Add a few cheap meals all you can eat breakfast for 3.00 pounds and a pair of cheap Nikes or addidas and you see why Florida starts to appeal add 4 parks 2 water parks and a full down town shopping set up and through in over 20 Disney hotels all on 40 square miles of Disney property and you can see why Florida will beat us again. That's the size of Manchester. Then add Universal with 2 parks, sea world, plus even more swimming places and 100s of shops that just walk all over us in Europe. Then again it starts to hurt your European way of life. And finally add petrol at £1.00 per gallon and you just have to cry at our rate of £4.50.
Sorry guys we might have some amazing rides but the Americans will always keep us behind them with all of the above.
Quote from: "PATMAGIC"That's also a big statement to make, magic kingdom was by the way originally decided on for wdw by walt himself when he planned the resort :wink: .
You're right, of course, but there's no proof that the existing mk is the mk walt imagined (if there's somewhere a page saying "mk is the only thing wich survived from walts dream, then sry :oops: )
I first wanted to ask why the hell is dlrp lacking in budget then, but the answer is one post above :wink:
When I visited Orlando, I expected WDW to be much better than DLRP. I'd heard so many people saying it's much better.
I rode almost every ride in the resort, and actually, I didn't think any of them were up to the quality of DLRP's rides and attractions. Everyone who came on that holiday with me agreed.
Also, in WDW there doesn't seem to be as much "magic" as DLRP has. DLRP has a better atmosphere overall.
We'll have to see if Tower of Terror is better or not :lol:
Quote from: "Baloo"I think WDW's key advantage is simply size. From my point of view, WDW = quantity, DLRP = quality.
That's my view anyway, I'd like to hear what actual WDW visitors think...
Dont think i could put it in better words myself. :)
Well I'd like to think I have a lot of Disney park experience.
I would say attraction wise, DLP is better than the MK in WDW and to a degree Disneyland. Service and cast quality is best at DL california, stage shows are best at DLP, street performances best at DL Cal, costumes best at DLP.
In short, I prefer my time at DL California, but if I can't be there, I would rather be in DLP than the MK. However, DLP has the worst hotels and restaurants of all the resorts, as well as the worst fireworks and guest behaviour.
i've only been to DLRP, but ive looked at lots of pictures from the other resorts around the world.
For me there is still a few things lacking in DLRP..
Disney Village - we need a 2nd street, with more entertainment venues. For me the only bar worth visiting is billy bobs. Downtown Disney sounds like it has a lot of what Disney Village needs.
Street entertainment - I've seen lots of picture of street entertainers in WDW. DLRP doesnt really seem to have any of that except during the special seasons (halloween etc).
and maybe the third gate... ;) WDW has epcot and animal kingdom which I definitely want to visit. Or there is Tokyos Disney Seas. If eventually I'd love for DLRP to have any of those - or something new of its own to rivel them.
till dlrp isn't forced by the french goverment or anybody else they shouldn't over-hurry the third gate thing. WDS has just started to become an "i can stand on my own" park, don't disturb him! :wink:
Quote from: "Whoknew?"till dlrp isn't forced by the french goverment or anybody else they shouldn't over-hurry the third gate thing. WDS has just started to become an "i can stand on my own" park, don't disturb him! :wink:
oh definitely. I know full well they wont be able to afford the third gate anytime soon (although didnt the deal say they had to have it open by something like 2012?) and wouldnt want them to open it before they could do the job properly.
Studios to me was opened before they could afford it, and now they're kinda going back to it and doing the job properly finally. The 3rd gate needs to be right first time.
I do think Disney Village expansion should be the next big project though.
Well from my pointo of view, DLP has best rides than WDW. I've only been once to the Magic Kingdom but from what I saw there I can say that Phantom Manor is great when you compare it to the haunted mansion. Same thing with Pirates, although this new aditions made the ride much better.
One thing for me that is much better in Paris is "It's a Small World". The building in Disneyland Paris is great. The one in Orlando doesn't have that in the exterior so it looks just a normal fantasyland building.
BTM also is better being on a island. The ride is Orlando is softer.
Space moutain is better in paris also. The orlando ride has no music at all and is very "slow".
The one thing better in Orlando are the fireworks of course. Wishes is wounderfull there.
But overall I belive that DLP is better than the MK
Quote from: "coruscantpt"The one thing better in Orlando are the fireworks of course. Wishes is wounderfull there.
But overall I belive that DLP is better than the MK
Absolutely spot on!!! The MK is sadly the worst MK park on it's own. But if we could have their fireworks and streetmousephere at DLP, I would be very happy.
well, i personally prefer the florida resort. that is looking at it as a whole resort. we go to florida for 3 weeks and paris for 3 days. we have fantastic weather, shopping, other theme parks and water parks to visit too.
but in fairness i think both parks have their merits.
it's a small world in florida - the outside is nowhere near as impressive as DLRP. they have many of the same 'dolls' but in a different order. some areas were wow much better than paris and some areas were ugh, not as good as paris. but as we visit paris about 3 times a year going to WDW was great just because it was different.
pirates of the caribbean, i think is better at DLRP. but with the added jack sparrow etc AA's it is great at WDW, especially the davy jones steam screen/projection thing! it isn't as long as DLRP though and only one small drop. imagine DLRP with those additions - fantastic.
haunted mansion, we prefered DLRP version of that too, a couple of the beginning parts of HM were slightly better than PM. but on the whole prefer PM especially the part where you go 'underground' and through the cemetary etc.
buzz lightyear - i love the paris version, and i'm good at it!!! the one in florida looks fantastic, the scenery is fantastic, it's huge inside and there are LOADs of things to shoot. the problem is that the guns don't detach and so are really difficult to aim at. so on the whole i found it quite frustrating really.
i think really we like the stuff in WDW that we can't do at DLRP e.g. jungle cruise, splash mountain (fantastic!!), mickey's philharmagic, TTA, the enchanted tiki room undernew management. there's lots.
at the end of the day, they are different parks with a common theme, and it would be boring if they were all exactly the same.
i do think disney village needs a bit of help though, downtown disney is great, much more lively and more to see.
Quote from: "kate"well, i personally prefer the florida resort. that is looking at it as a whole resort. we go to florida for 3 weeks and paris for 3 days. we have fantastic weather, shopping, other theme parks and water parks to visit too.
Looking at the whoile resort over all I prefer Dl in California and WDW by far. DL has a better feeling, more live entertainment, attractions etc inc. DCA, the best Downtown Disney and the best Disney hotel anywhere (Grand Californian) and the best Disney restaurant anywhere (Napa Rose). It's the original and it wonderful.
WDW has the fantastic Epcot and Animal Kingdom, as well as a huge number of highly themed resorts and restaurants. My 2nd fav.
DLP - well, great start in 1992, but for me it has been going steadily downhill since 1996. Thankfully the last couple of years, it has been getting better, but even with the 15th additions, there is still a long way to go.
I like DLP more than WDW. Sure, if you see the whole Resort than WDW is bigger and nicer, but when you see the both Magic Kingdoms than is DLP much nicer than WDW.
The Attractions in Paris are so beautiful, It´s a small world and the Fantasyland Area are so beautiful. The Main Street looks much nicer, the Castle ist the most beautiful from all Disney Parcs. Frontierland and Adventureland are better, and Discoveryland, too.
At WDW I like the Water Parcs and Epcot, the Showcase Lagoon is nice. And there you can stay longer than in Paris.
Alexandra
Magic Kingdom is not as good as our Disneyland Park, I have to admit. But in my opinion the attitude of the castmembers, the streetmosphere and upkeep of the place was better then in Paris, although it had a lot to be desired too.
Overall, Walt Disney World was a bit better then Disneyland Resort Paris, although I think that the scale of the place is also its weakness. Its simply impossible to control all of the quality aspects at such a huge place.
One thing that the Americans do better then us is the offering of food in the parks. Overthere there is so much choice, also healthy stuff, and it all tastes great. You would expect that the choice of food in an European Disney park would be better, but we can mainly chose between hotdogs, fries and hamburgers.
Besides that, they also have Epcot, Disney-MGM Studios and Disney's Animal Kingdom. And although 3 of the 4 park feel outdated already, they offer the best attractions in the entire world, together with Tokyo Disney.
On the other hand, Disneyland Resort Paris stole my heart, just like the other Disney resorts did with their home fanbase. Our Resort has such an unique European touch (Fantasia Gardens, Victorian elements in Discoveryland etc), and unique attraction. And never forget that we have Fantillusion aswell! :wink:
DLRP can get better by training the castmembers, offering better food and mentain the Resort proparly. I aslo would love to see them updating exsisting attraction like Pirates, Phantom Manor and eventually Star Tours.
most of the attractions between DLRP and WDW are better in DLRP. But we also can't forget that WDW gets most of the attrations first when they're brand new so we get like the crappy prototype attractions.
Look at TOT in TDL, theirs have amazing decoration and WDW's looks more of a standard hotel. RNRC- its also way better in DLRP becase of the better lighting in the attraction and the 5 MIN wait i did!!!! Crowd wise DLRP is my favorite, when i was there i just walked right into the attraction something that is almost impossibe to do at WDW unless you are the 1st person and the gate and run when they open the park. I also found DLRP to be the cleanest even my friend (another CM) was amazed of how clean the street was that she took a photo of it!!!
The only thing of DLRP that im concerned about its the some of the CM's attitudes, some of the aspects of entertainment, lets not forget
some of te Dlrp guests!!!
Overall I think DLRP has the best park, but guest services I think WDW is better.
Hello this my first post so be kind please! :lol:
I have been to DLP only but my mum standing behind me as I type says that Walt Disney World is Fantastic but lacks any of the Magic and Beauty that Disneyland Resort Paris has in bucketfuls. She has been to both parks. :D She said that not me :shock:
Thanks anywho!
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I don't like it when people get so biased like that.
All of the parks have their merits and their flaws, so be nice to each and every one of them, please, especially to WDW--my home park.
I have been to Dlp at least 14 times and wdw in florida 3 times.
I love dlp as it is great for a quick fix, the best time to go is christmas as you can really get in to the Christmas spirit with it being so cold an all.
THe Cast members let it down big time though, they are not as friendly as wdw ones. There is no proper system for the characters appart from the princesses and minnie and mickey that have there own queues. So continental people just bundle up to them knocking others who are waiting over.
THe best one though was in the Queue for Phantom manor last year when a couple ofTeenage kids tried, and failed to barge my DH out of the way. When he called them on it their reply was "But we are French" like that should give them a right to queue jump they were amazed when DH wouldnt let them through.
The other thing with Dlp is that you can get 2 weeks in the US for the price it cost sometimes for a short visit to DLP. THe food is expensive and very samey and petrol isnt as cheap as it used to be.
That said POTC ride is very good and with the new update I like it better than the one in wdw. My favorite wdw ride is splash mountain and that wouldn't do well in France as they dont really have the weather for it, which is a shame. I do like the shopping arcades in main street better than wdw.
But nothing beats getting the Paddle boat at wdw across from the carpark to the entrance to the Magic Kingdom,Fantastic photo opotunities, the ride around the Island where BTM is isnt really the same at all.
We love Downtown Disney at wdw it is a fantastic place to hang out and chill of an evening, with pleasure island right next door. you can get a motor launch back to your hotel when you have had a enough.
There is also a section called the boardwalk where some of the DVC hotels are and that has nice resturants and is great for seeing firworks.
You can also get a Boat right in to epcot stopping on the way to pick up panssengers from verious hotels.
the water parks are also a nice break from it all, which is something that that part of France could never do, unless it was undercover like centreparcs or something.
The Toontown section in Magic kingdom is massive and has minnies and mickeys house which you can go in. with loads of stuff for Preschools, it will be interesting to see if France can recreate. There is many more themed playareas for preaschools like the honey I shrunk the kids one and the one in toontown(name escapes me at themoment) Obviously I am interested in stuff for preschoolers at themoment. :D
sorry :o
Dont be sorry Joseph, you were only voicing an opinion and everyone has their own idea what they like about the different resorts. I hope you wont be put off from posting anymore messages. :D
I love DLRP and its charm. I have a savings account to save for my Disney holidays. I keep saying-the next holiday will be WDW. BUT I HAVE NO WILL POWER! maybe my heart is with DLRP.
Having said that I have friends who are 5 times DLRP and one time WDW-they came back last week and they swear they will NEVER go to DLRP again! :shock: They were won over by WDW, the rides, the shows, the weather and the wonderfull courteousness of the staff. And food and collectabls (pins, snow globes) were a lot cheaper. They got back on teh Monday and were back in the travel agents tuesday pricing up for next year.
lindylou, I would love to know where you book your holidays, cos we cant get what we want for the price we pay for a week in DLRP-with loads of extras and Paris on tap. We'd be look at three times the price.
Thank you tubbsy I will certainly be posting on here in the future. I myself Love Dlp to bits but I still cant wait till going to WDW Have to wait a couple years though.
All the Best
Joseph
Th staff at wdw arn't always so nice, I was on jungle cruise once, and one of the boat drivers had a right strop on, it made the ride horrible, and on its a small world a young guy looked so fed up helping a woman in her wheelchair, and he didn't even try to hide the fact.
Also in the emporium on main street I notice the staff are reminded by the tills to greet all customers, and what else to say, it makes it a bit false.
Where as when I've been to other places in the usa and the people are totally different so much nicer
me and my friends prefer DLRP to WDW as DLRPs version of BIG THUNDER MOUNTAIN is so much cooler than WDW the way its on an island
Having been to WDW and DLP I have to say that across the board the staff is much nicer in FL. The bathroomS are also way cleaner and better staffed in FL. I've never seen a CM in the bathrooms in DLP. The same rides here are better though than in FL however you cannot beat the other parks. Epcot is my favorite!!!! The new coaster at Animal Kingdom was awesome also. Sleeping Beauty's castle here is way better than Cinderella's in FL. I think it is the color of the castle here and it just seems so much more romantic. Plus I love the dragon. They don't have anything really beneath the castle in FL. Also hands down the queing system for the characters in FL is so smart and way better than the pushing around here. That is my biggest dissappointment as my children are not "agressive" and lots of time we just plain give up trying to get photos or autographs with the characters. If they do have lines it's always the same characters. You have more characters in FL and Star Wars weekends are great! I just love Disney though no matter what. Both places have goods & bads but with Crush's coaster coming out I am so excited!!!!