Does anyone know what is being done if anything about the rodent porblem? i was there in May and saw a rat, and in some of the posts I have read quite a few guests ahve seen them in the park. I am going back in November and I know it will be dark in the evenings and am quite concerned about not being able to see if there is a rat nearby when waiting for the parade.
What do you expect them to do? The whole resort is surrounded by fields and forests which were there long beforehand.
I live in an area that is surrounded by fields but I don't expect to see rats in my garden. I understand that they will travel from surrounding areas, but there should be some programme in place to minimise the risk of them appearing from the bushes near restaurants.
I'm sure they're doing all they can, but it's impossible to get rid of them completely.
I hope they are. I have been to the park many times and this was my first sighting. It hasn't put me off booking again but it is in the back of my mind, and in some cases, may even put others off returning.
Mice and rats are the reason why we no longer eat in the blue lagoon, the cast weren't even phased by it.
Rats are quite common and door mice. I get a fox coming into my garden from time to time. Wait till you see a fox walking out of Walts Restaurant. I've never seen rats at DLP but I have seen them in other places.
You're both giving me murophobia now. XD
When rats get in your house, then you have a problem.
i've never seen any, but its not like they'll be able to find all the rats, all they can do is ask guests to put rubbish in bins.
and this is nothing compared to the wasp problems at legoland windsor. someone told me that in some areas they are having to change bins every half hour, and they've had to hire companies to help get rid of them. they have a lot of trees to look through, but could you imagine if there was a wasp infestation in adventureland?!!!
Rats are looking for food, so putting rubbish and left over food in bins is a good idea. I wouldn't worry about eating in the restaurants at DLP myself, I'm sure they have high standards in their kitchens.
Quote from: "mary"I live in an area that is surrounded by fields but I don't expect to see rats in my garden. I understand that they will travel from surrounding areas, but there should be some programme in place to minimise the risk of them appearing from the bushes near restaurants.
What sort of program would that be exactly. An ad campaign? Higher fines for trespassing rodents? They're rodents. It's a park, with trees and bushes and lots of food strewn about. If you were a mouse, where would you be?
Does DLRP have a rodent problem?
I've never seen one. And I don't doubt that various members of the animal kingdom live in and around the park. And why wouldn't they with the potential food on offer? But the CM always seem pretty good to me at keeping the place clean.
Now some of the UK theme parks and wasps - THAT'S a problem.
Quote from: "pussinboots"Quote from: "mary"I live in an area that is surrounded by fields but I don't expect to see rats in my garden. I understand that they will travel from surrounding areas, but there should be some programme in place to minimise the risk of them appearing from the bushes near restaurants.
What sort of program would that be exactly. An ad campaign? Higher fines for trespassing rodents? They're rodents. It's a park, with trees and bushes and lots of food strewn about. If you were a mouse, where would you be?
HaHaHa - maybe wit would help kill them off! Doesn't do much for guests who are seriously concerned and would like to be reassured that the problem is being taken seriously with regular measures being taken to minimise the problem. I'm sure that DLRP are doing all they can - I just wondered what sort of measures they take to ensure that the problem does not escalate to such an extent that the park has to be closed in order to deal with a massive infestation.
The flip side to all this is, when the Ratatouille ride finally opens, guests are going to be blown away by how realistic the "animatronic" rats are :-)
I have never seen cats in DLP, that is the common approach in Anaheim and Orlando.
Quote from: "mary"Quote from: "pussinboots"Quote from: "mary"I live in an area that is surrounded by fields but I don't expect to see rats in my garden. I understand that they will travel from surrounding areas, but there should be some programme in place to minimise the risk of them appearing from the bushes near restaurants.
What sort of program would that be exactly. An ad campaign? Higher fines for trespassing rodents? They're rodents. It's a park, with trees and bushes and lots of food strewn about. If you were a mouse, where would you be?
HaHaHa - maybe wit would help kill them off! Doesn't do much for guests who are seriously concerned and would like to be reassured that the problem is being taken seriously with regular measures being taken to minimise the problem. I'm sure that DLRP are doing all they can - I just wondered what sort of measures they take to ensure that the problem does not escalate to such an extent that the park has to be closed in order to deal with a massive infestation.
Going a bit far, don't you think? As far as I can tell, most people haven't seen any rodents, and when they open ratatouille, they can call them the street entertainers. Rodents live near food, it's a fact of nature, and dlp can't stop nature
Saw a rat when queuing to BTM last time. Most of the guests found the rat quite entertaining. As with all populations all you have to do is reduce their access to food and they will go away.
Quote from: "mary"HaHaHa - maybe wit would help kill them off! Doesn't do much for guests who are seriously concerned and would like to be reassured that the problem is being taken seriously with regular measures being taken to minimise the problem. I'm sure that DLRP are doing all they can - I just wondered what sort of measures they take to ensure that the problem does not escalate to such an extent that the park has to be closed in order to deal with a massive infestation.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like Sky News during a particularly slow news week. We just went from evaluating whether this is a problem at all to some sort of horror — or, most likely, comedy — scenario of mice and rats scouring wildebeest-like over Frontierland and a "Fermé" sign hanging from the park's chewed-up entrance gates.
Rats in the kitchen, that's a problem, and one that Disney would have had to have addressed because they still haven't been closed down. A rat on your plate, that's a problem, unless it's properly cooked and served with Béarnaise sauce. The incidental rat looking for leftovers in what is essentially a large expanse of parkland, that's to be expected and virtually impossible to avoid. Unless, of course, you buy hundreds of cats. But then how do you get rid of the cats?
Quote from: "pussinboots"Rats in the kitchen, that's a problem, and one that Disney would have had to have addressed because they still haven't been closed down. A rat on your plate, that's a problem, unless it's properly cooked and served with Béarnaise sauce. The incidental rat looking for leftovers in what is essentially a large expanse of parkland, that's to be expected and virtually impossible to avoid. Unless, of course, you buy hundreds of cats. But then how do you get rid of the cats?
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Quote from: "Anthony"Quote from: "pussinboots"Rats in the kitchen, that's a problem, and one that Disney would have had to have addressed because they still haven't been closed down. A rat on your plate, that's a problem, unless it's properly cooked and served with Béarnaise sauce. The incidental rat looking for leftovers in what is essentially a large expanse of parkland, that's to be expected and virtually impossible to avoid. Unless, of course, you buy hundreds of cats. But then how do you get rid of the cats?
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"Ooh! I mean, each cat will live about twelve years, I can't wait... and each cat has nine lives! That's four times twelve, times nine... No, it's less than that. Anyway, that's more than I'll ever live. I'll be gone! No, oh, no. They'll be gone. I'll think of a way. After all, there are millions of reasons why I should. All of them dollars. Millions. Those cats have got to go! "
There are cats at DLP. You won't see them while the park is crowded but they will generally come out at night. If you linger around places like Adventure Isle right before closing in summer you might catch a glimpse. There are also many species of birds, there are bats, rabbits, insects, fish, rodents and any other animal you will find in a large outdoor expanse with a good deal of vegetation, which is not counting those that are part of the show. DLP is quite a aware of all this, of course, to the point that they have their own department to keep track of the resort's wild fauna.
So to speak of a rodent "problem" seems a bit exaggerated for now, as long as they don't grow to 5 feet and start wearing pants...
Quote from: "DGRavenswood"So to speak of a rodent "problem" seems a bit exaggerated for now, as long as they don't grow to 5 feet and start wearing pants...
5 foot rodents wearing pants, honestly what planet are you from? Next you'll be talking about other ridiculous sights like giant ducks wearing sailor outfits, elephants that can fly, or hot tasty pizzas at a reasonable price from Buzz's Pizza Planet.
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>>>Rats in the kitchen, that's a problem, and one that Disney would have had to have addressed because they still haven't been closed down. A rat on your plate, that's a problem<<<
This is my point, I do not have an issue er se with rodents in the undergrowth, or trying to get rubbish back stage (both happens at all the parks). But seeing them running around the dining room of the Blue Lagoon and cast members shrugging when the attention is drawn towards them is unacceptable. Any where else in the Europe and the restaurant would be closed by the authorities.
You are rarely more than three metres away from a rat when on the ground, they are very common, and for the most part are quite harmless.
Speaking as someone who kept rats i feel i need to point out that they are not all bad!
yes, they are opportunistic scavengers, however you can expect to see them almost anywhere. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't be controlled and that I would be happy seeing them in a restaurant.
However seeing a rat in the park is no different from seeing them on London Underground. In all the times I have been to DLP I have never sen a rat (apart from the wooden one in Blue Lagoon)
if rats can put you off visiting somewhere the you may have to never leave your home.
rats are just hamsters with bad agents!
Hm I saw the most rats of my life last year in new york (the city not the hotel). They where at every subway station and nobody was interested in any way.
For DLP I must say I haven´t seen one. I´ve seen mices, salamanders, squirrels (I have no problem with them, I am a squirrel at my own), birds, spiders, worms ....
I don´t think you can keep "the nature" out of a park which has that much green space.
The only think that they can do is to control it a bit. There must be a programm to keep the rat population small. I don´t like to see a rat in restaurant. But I also don´t wont to see a cat, a mice or a bird in a restaurant.
Back to new york: They have a big rat killing programm but as always with nature: we will always lost at the end and that means, that also with a big programm rats will stay everywhere. Also in your home town :P
I have noticed on a couple of occasions traps set up in the grass verges beside the Railroad and have always assumed that these were to catch rats by the size of the cages.
Are the rats actually in the restaurants etc, or just about in the parks?
Definitely not in the restaurants. If you do see them in the parks, though, it'll be rare. :)
We stayed at DLP in August and didn't see any rats. We had a meal in the Blue Lagoon restaurant and we didn't see any rats in there or in any other restaurant.
Seeing a rat in the parks is not rare. If you find a quiet corner, especially in adventureland/frontierland, you will probably see one. Having said that having pumpkins strewn about the place probably doesn't help. If you surrounded your house with rotting veg, then no doubt you would get vermin.
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "DGRavenswood"So to speak of a rodent "problem" seems a bit exaggerated for now, as long as they don't grow to 5 feet and start wearing pants...
5 foot rodents wearing pants, honestly what planet are you from? Next you'll be talking about other ridiculous sights like giant ducks wearing sailor outfits, elephants that can fly, or hot tasty pizzas at a reasonable price from Buzz's Pizza Planet.
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Hahaha !!!! :mrgreen: Good one! :thumbs:
Are we talking rats or field mice? Rats are a whole other ball game, I saw a rat once that was so big I mistook it for a cat! :shock: Anyhoo, never seen one in the parks or restaurants for that matter. Rare sightings don't constitute a problem. It's not like the place is infested or anything. With such a large volume of guests if there was a substantial problem complaints would be piling in, and it seems the mouse/rat population of the parks has gone unoticed by the majority.
Now cats are a problem. Cats will harrass you for food. They'll sit at your feet and stare you down until you give in and foolishly throw them a scrap of your food...and that's when they never go away!
I´ve seen a rat inside Blockbuster Cafe an a mouse in front of Bella Notte last august.
The only reasonable solution i can come up with, are bears with Lasers mounted on their heads, maybe some sharks too.
The rodent problem, comes not when they are seen by guests in my opinion. We've seen a few on our recent trips.
No, the problem, is when one of them is dying near Bella Notte, in front of younger guests, and when staff members are informed nothing is done about it.
One day in July a dying and then soon dead rat was spotted by us in EMH. We reported it to 5 seperate staff members, 3 of whom then reported it further up. It was still there at 5 just before we left the park. Now that is disgusting, and very distressing to several families we saw at least.
I have seen the occasional little mouse scuttling about, but not much really to worry about. What about birds in restaurants? The first time I wnet in Colonel Hathi's there were dozens of them, and in one of the restaurants in WDS, can't remember the name. In Starbucks in the Village they swoop in to pick up crumbs etc from under the tables and then swoop out again as people open the door. In Annettes I had to duck as a bird struggled to take off with a giant french fry in its claws - you have to admire it's pluck!! I do wonder though, just how sanitary is it for birds to be flying around inside a restaurant?
I didn't see too many rodents up to now, but I also think that the birds in restaurants can be really annoying. We've been in Bella Notte, sitting next to a window, while a couple of sparrows did not seem to find a way out a gain - so they tried to fly through the glass several times. That was a stressful meal ;)
Last time i was in the Mickey Cafe, i actually had a mouse give me his autograph :) sorry couldn't help myself
Q: What is Disneyland Paris doing about their rodent problem?
A: Well, they appear to have killed the Ratatouille project. So that's a start.
is it definitely postponed?
@peter
Joking aside, the last thing I read was that it had been put on hold, because they weren't able to secure the necessary funds from the banks, to build it. So it looks like Ratatouille is in similar position now to the Tower of Terror was back in 2002. Remember how the HTH logo stood over the site, for about 4 years, until construction finally started in 2006? I doubt we'll have to wait that long for Ratatouille, but at this rate we shouldn't expect to see it open until at least 2014.
Sorry to hear that Ratatuoille is postponed.
regarding vermin in the parks - we saw our first rats in 19 years in the resort last week, when we came out of Cinemagique. Three large rats, one after the other, scuttling along towards the grassy area at Place Des Stars.
Last week, we've seen a lot of rats and mice, too. But well, where so much food, water and garbage can be found, this must be like the paradise for rodents...
We were in Disney last week.
Saw many mice around adventureland. They are pretty "friendly" aswell. They dont exactly run away fast when you approach them. Saw them during the day and into the evening.
Also saw a rat over in Disney village, near the geocache near mcdonalds. Clearly running along the wall, very near to an empy mcdonalds bag.
This unfortunately proves that the guests are partly to blame for the problem. If only people would put their litter in the bins