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Title: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 19, 2011, 07:12:59 PM
From looking at the Closures calendar, La Cabane des Robinson has been closed from early June and will be closed until at least October.

Seems a hell of a long time for a simple refurb. Is it about to fall over or something ??
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: alternativerock123 on July 20, 2011, 08:00:37 PM
I did read somewhere, that it is being closed due to safety reason. I have no idea what those reasons are.

Like you said, something might fall if any refurbishment happens.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: littlemermaid83 on July 20, 2011, 08:57:33 PM
Oh great, I hope its open in October as I still haven't managed to go on it yet.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on July 20, 2011, 09:52:59 PM
This may sound odd, but could they be changing it to tarzan's treehouse? It would be a cheap new attraction, wouldn't it?

Although it probably is safety reasons. After all, the treehouse part probably weighs hundreds of tonnes, and has it had any major structural works since opening?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 21, 2011, 09:46:28 AM
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"Oh great, I hope its open in October as I still haven't managed to go on it yet.

You walk up, you walk down. The end. Sorry, not a big fan of walk-throughs (dont get me started on the Nautilus)  8)
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on July 21, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: "peter"This may sound odd, but could they be changing it to tarzan's treehouse? It would be a cheap new attraction, wouldn't it?

Hopefully not...I have had enough of cheap new toon attractions replacing old parts of DLP.

Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"You walk up, you walk down. The end. Sorry, not a big fan of walk-throughs (dont get me started on the Nautilus)  8)

I really love both attractions...But well, tastes differ ;)
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Kristof on July 21, 2011, 03:50:33 PM
It closed after the Big Thunder Mountain incident, just like how all effects and animatronics that move over ride vehicles have been turned off.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on July 21, 2011, 05:39:51 PM
That makes sense, although surely this is extreme. All they should do is go through attractions, closing them for a couple of days, and redoing the risk assessments.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on July 22, 2011, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: "Kristof"It closed after the Big Thunder Mountain incident, just like how all effects and animatronics that move over ride vehicles have been turned off.

Thanks for the information. Do you know how long this state will last? I mean, I don't see such a serious risk at La Cabane des Robinsons which would cause a 4 month - closure...
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Pete's Dragon on July 22, 2011, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: "Patrick89"
Quote from: "Kristof"It closed after the Big Thunder Mountain incident, just like how all effects and animatronics that move over ride vehicles have been turned off.

Thanks for the information. Do you know how long this state will last? I mean, I don't see such a serious risk at La Cabane des Robinsons which would cause a 4 month - closure...

Exactly, it's not like it has any moving parts of animatronics. And how long would it take to inspect the structural intergrity.

Q: If it did collapse, in what direction do you think it would fall?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on July 22, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Exactly, it's not like it has any moving parts of animatronics. And how long would it take to inspect the structural intergrity.

Q: If it did collapse, in what direction do you think it would fall?

Option 1: On the Pirate Ship, so they have less work with dismantling it and the new ship will be available much earlier.

Option 2: On PoTC, destroying all of the new AA related to the movies, so "unfortunately" the update of the ride has to be cancelled  :-"
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Kristof on July 22, 2011, 05:05:31 PM
Honestly, I think this is a case of Guest Safety freaking out after BTM.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Josh on July 22, 2011, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Exactly, it's not like it has any moving parts of animatronics. And how long would it take to inspect the structural intergrity.

Q: If it did collapse, in what direction do you think it would fall?
Ha ha. It's no more likely to fall than The Old Mill or the castle or any of the caves in Aventureland. XD
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: _Natalie_x on August 05, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
I like la cabane des robinson :D although I was there with friends last time so we took lots of amusing pictures. Maybe that's why it was fun -_- when in Disney California I didn't get chance to go up tarzans treehouse, never had time and there was actually a big queue! That's one of my regrets though, what's up there and what's the difference between la cabane and tarzans? Xx
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: davewasbaloo on August 05, 2011, 06:52:13 PM
I hate what they did to the tree house at Disneyland. The original was very similar to DLP's, though some of it was from the real movie sets. Then when they did the Tarzan refurb, they made it feel very toony, with props and models of the characters similar to what you would find in the Fantasyland dark ride. They ruined it IMHO.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on August 09, 2011, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"I hate what they did to the tree house at Disneyland. The original was very similar to DLP's, though some of it was from the real movie sets. Then when they did the Tarzan refurb, they made it feel very toony, with props and models of the characters similar to what you would find in the Fantasyland dark ride. They ruined it IMHO.

I fear that there will be the time when La Cabane des Robinsons is replaced by a toon attraction, too...
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Tuvok on August 11, 2011, 09:51:43 AM
La Cabane won't reopen before december. Although there is no 'official' reason, it indeed has to do with te guest safety  department deeming it a too greater risk. They are now evaluating the attraction and making adjustments before it reopens by the end of the year. No exact date has been set at the moment.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on August 11, 2011, 04:43:52 PM
But surely when they opened it in 92 they must have had a risk assessment. After the police investigation were they told that they need to reassess all the attractions? It would explain why all overhead effects have been off in attractions
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on August 11, 2011, 08:04:11 PM
Very mysterious...And now it isn't open during my trip in October :(
I mean, turning off all overhead effects and the closure of La Cabane des Robinsons...I cannot understand this, for me it looks more like a disproportionate  panic reaction after the BTM accident...
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Josh on August 11, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
What's the worse that could happen? A leaf falling on your head?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ed-uk on August 11, 2011, 10:32:13 PM
Or a branch falling on your head?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Josh on August 11, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
Hmmm. Yes, I suppose those leaves would have to be attached to something. XD
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: disneylandparisgirl on August 11, 2011, 11:50:22 PM
Could this have anything do with the rehab of the pirate ship? The refurb of this seems to be taking the same amount of time as that refurb! Could it be shut to avoid sneaky pics of the new pirate ship and this is a convient excuse to keep it shut
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: lil-shawn on August 22, 2011, 10:16:36 PM
Somehow i get the feeling this is because of the bad maintenance and refurbs they did in recent years... somtimes bad deccisions get payed back realy bad.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: DopeyDad on August 23, 2011, 12:16:41 AM
what do you mean? bad refurbs on Les Cabane?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ed-uk on August 23, 2011, 12:19:13 AM
La Cabane des Robinson went into refurb a year or so ago, it looked good then, I don't know why it's closed now. What bad refurbs?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on August 23, 2011, 11:52:48 AM
Bad refurbs everywhere, cutting corners, that kind of thing, exactly the reason they have to rebuild the pirate ship
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ed-uk on August 23, 2011, 11:57:57 AM
Bad refurbs everywhere? Do you mean no refurbs everywhere? La Cabane des Robinson was a good refurb, I saw it. I don't know why The Tree house is closed do you? The Mark Twain river boat was closed last week also, was that a bad refurb, cost cutting, not enough Cms? As for the pirate ship we are getting a new one which should be something to cheer about. Refurbs, maintenance will always need to be done from the hotels to the parks, it's never ending for DLP. EuroDisney doesn't have the huge budget to spend like the WDC has. And I would just like to say there are some really good refurbs going on all over the park at the moment. So credit where credit is due please.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: lil-shawn on August 23, 2011, 04:47:47 PM
If the refurb of last year would be that good they dind´t had to close it again. So i think they have safty problems because of not looking at it at all. sorry but a bit of paint, don´t make anything safer or better. the same goes with the pirate ship, if they would have looked at it all the years, they didn´t need to spend money on getting a new one.

no i don´t know the reason why its closed, its just something i thought about. Did anyone see that someone did work on la cabane? if not maybe its realy closed because of the pirate ship! just speculating nothing more!
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: DopeyDad on August 23, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
it is curious, I thought for a minute you knew more.
How is the Galley refurb going? After that I guess we'll know if cabanes closure is linked to that
I can't quite see how it can be the 'moving props' issue from BTM, surely DLPs H&S dept can deal with the fallout from BTM in a more precise way than just shutting off all moving props over visitors?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Tuvok on August 24, 2011, 01:25:12 PM
Captain Hook's Galley is scheduled to be opened again on october 28th. La Cabane is rumoured to be closed till december, so I don't think there's a link, but we'll have to see when the Galley opens.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: claire2281 on August 24, 2011, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: "lil-shawn"the same goes with the pirate ship, if they would have looked at it all the years, they didn´t need to spend money on getting a new one.

I think it would have basically needed replacing eventually anyway because nothing is going to last as well in Paris weather as it will Orlando weather. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if they knew some years ago that they were just going to scrap it and rebuild hence the lack of maintenance. Why spend the money when they could save it for the rebuild? Sad, but we know DLP doesn't exactly have money to burn.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Vegitabeta on August 26, 2011, 06:31:53 PM
Last time I went up the tree (last December) it had been snowing and there was lots of snow and ice all over the place, and that wood did seem a little slippery.  Maybe they are doing something to the surface, giving it more grip...Although that surely wouldn't take that long to do.  Speaking of slippery, don't get me started on the Adventure Isle bridge; seen many a guest go butt over brains on that!
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on August 26, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
The funniest thing about adventureland in dlp is that it has more slip hazards than any other Adventureland, and is in the park most prone to poor weather, it's definitely a bit odd
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: DopeyDad on August 26, 2011, 07:23:44 PM
lol, yes

I fell so hard in adventureland, just pass Hathis Outpost, slipped..legs off to see Hooks galley while the rest of me paid a very sudden and hard visit to the floor, completely winded with several people asking me if I was alright and being quite kind but I was totally unable to talk for a good couple of minutes.

But we can't have a swinging pirate in POTC because he could fly off and take someones eye out! And Le Cabane remains closed, daft!
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ed-uk on August 26, 2011, 07:31:53 PM
Last week the swinging  pirate was back in POTC. Sorry about your fall in Adventureland though.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Vegitabeta on August 26, 2011, 07:43:33 PM
He was back?!  Ain't seen that chap in a good while now, though I always look for him.

And yes sorry about your fall.  I find it funny that the little yellow cone on the bridge to warn you that it is slippy is tied to the bridge, incase it slides away :p
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: DopeyDad on August 26, 2011, 09:45:16 PM
:lol:

the fall was worth it in a way, it really was a proper slapstick, Charlie Chaplin affair and I'm strangely proud of it.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ed-uk on August 26, 2011, 10:05:29 PM
Would of been good for the  "The Picture of the Day" thread.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: CafeFantasia on September 10, 2011, 06:12:17 PM
I doubt they are bringing Tarzan's Treehouse to Disneyland Paris. But if they are, that's great news. I think a lot of people skip the treehouse, because they have no idea what the Swiss Family Robinson is. I know Disney fans like their tradition, but come on, that film is 51 years old now!

[youtube:19fiu5mr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nOhAjOJ848&hd=1[/youtube:19fiu5mr]
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: DedicatedToDLP(Steve) on September 10, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
I have a constant battle with Joseph on the podcast about La Cabane des Robinson - I love it and he hates it, same with the Tram Tour. I like that it's completely different to every other attraction and is a nice change of pace. It's also a fantastic place to take photos from.

However, Tarzan is my favourite of the animated films and it wouldn't change what I like about La Cabane, so I'd be very much in favour of a Tarzan refurb.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on September 11, 2011, 08:21:23 PM
If only there was somewhere in adventureland where you can see into the treehouse, we could tell what is going on?
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: smurfy74 on September 12, 2011, 12:57:51 AM
I have  a cast member friend who asked at city hall about the tree house and was told it would be closed until next year, he is trying to get some more info for me
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Patrick89 on September 25, 2011, 09:32:26 PM
Quote from: "Alan"I doubt they are bringing Tarzan's Treehouse to Disneyland Paris. But if they are, that's great news. I think a lot of people skip the treehouse, because they have no idea what the Swiss Family Robinson is. I know Disney fans like their tradition, but come on, that film is 51 years old now!

So Snow-White, Pinoccio etc. should be replaced, too, just because they are old movies? And what about Jules Verne? I think it's good to have some attractions related to something different than Disney cartoons of the last 10-15 years. With attractions like La Cabane des Robinsons or the Jules Verne rides, kids might also get interested in these topics. Just because of Disneyland i read a lot of Verne`s books. They even might sell some of them in their stores and I bet they would be bought...I think we already have enough rides based on Disney movies, so please keep your hands of my beloved treehouse ;)
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: peter on September 26, 2011, 06:10:37 PM
but have you seen the film?! i mean, the pirate attack scene was just painful:

"quick francis(why does he have an english accent?), throw those explosive coconuts at the people. you never know, it might give them a frightful shock, and 10 seconds later they could dramatically fall over. hurrah!"

sorry, but its just a really bad movie!
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: "Alan"I doubt they are bringing Tarzan's Treehouse to Disneyland Paris. But if they are, that's great news. I think a lot of people skip the treehouse, because they have no idea what the Swiss Family Robinson is. I know Disney fans like their tradition, but come on, that film is 51 years old now!
Is this a bad time to mention that the original Johann David Wyss novel is 200 years old next year?

Tarzan and its cheap fibreglass animals wouldn't solve anything. The treehouse (that is the Swiss Family treehouse) simply needs to be better cared for. Fix the thatching, replace the leaves, get the water system working again. Then a whole lot more people will see it for the masterpiece it is. It's not a fixation with tradition, it's good storytelling.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: pussinboots on September 27, 2011, 07:09:44 AM
Quote from: "peter"but have you seen the film?! i mean, the pirate attack scene was just painful:

"quick francis(why does he have an english accent?), throw those explosive coconuts at the people. you never know, it might give them a frightful shock, and 10 seconds later they could dramatically fall over. hurrah!"

sorry, but its just a really bad movie!

I haven't seen it, but I kind of want to now, haha.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Vegitabeta on September 27, 2011, 10:57:16 AM
I liked the movie, I just don't take it too seriously.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: davewasbaloo on September 27, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
as a child, Swiss Family Robinson was a favorite of mine, and I would still rather watch it than the stupid Little Mermaid.

as for the attraction, I think it is great to have a place for people to explore, it is a part of the disney difference. I have seen queues on busy days to get into the tree house, they just need to refurb it and not ruin it like they did with disneyland's in anaheim.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ford prefect on September 27, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
I love Swiss Family Robinson, yes the film is of it's time, however it is a good story and beautifully filmed.  It is a far superior product to some of the effects laden, story light, lacking-in-talent rubbish trotted out by most film companies.

I thoroughly enjoy exploring Cabane des Robinson with my kids and telling them the story.  It is stories like this and Treasure Island and Robinson Crusoe that lead to Pirates of the Caribbean.

The walkthorough is a great way to bring the story to life for everyone and long may it remain.

I would enjoy a Tarzan treehouse, however it would be tragic to lose a link to a true adventure story in Adventureland.
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: lynny on September 27, 2011, 02:09:35 PM
sorry but how old is the film?????.....its going to be terrible,there wern't many special effects around back then,but its still enjoyable to watch along with many a film from back in the day ;)
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: Pete's Dragon on September 27, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: "lynny"sorry but how old is the film?????.....its going to be terrible,there wern't many special effects around back then,but its still enjoyable to watch along with many a film from back in the day ;)

There were plently of special effects back then, just not the slick, overused computer generated ones of today. The film was made in 1960.

I know what you mean, but technically even this is a special effect / practical effect, just not a very good one

[youtube:35zl7jm6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thLoGpdqgyE[/youtube:35zl7jm6]
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: ford prefect on September 27, 2011, 04:40:29 PM
And what is wrong with that sequence?  A willing suspension of disbelief means you can watch anything and enjoy it.  Use your imagination and play along.

We are spoonfed rubbish now to the point where we no longer have to think or imagine, everything has to be real.

We don't need 3D CGI trite naf rubbish, merely a good story and our imagination.  Sadly few people seem to think that today.

*gets of soapbox and goes back to being a grumpy nearly-40-year-old*
Title: Re: La Cabane des Robinson - Is there a Serious Problem
Post by: davewasbaloo on September 27, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Agreed FP, but we are of the same generation. More people need to see plays and theatrical productions. It is the ideas and stories that matter most, not flash effects. And SFR is a terrific story.