Charecter central has revealed some information about the new MMF show!
QuoteThe new Castle/Hub show will feature the Genie as a face character, a first for Disneyland Paris. In fact the only place Genie has ever been seen as a face character is the current Aladdin show over at California Adventure. Mickey will have two new outfits for the show. We have also heard from a separate source that there is a chance that the Three Good Fairies may feature in it, but that is really uncertain at this stage.
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That's interesting! I guess from that it means that he'll be a live voiced character like Dr Facilier was over Halloween? It's always nice when they use unusual/underused characters in the Hub shows!
I'm guessing one of Mickey's costumes will be his Sorcerers one (hopefully with pyro fingers!), possibly Mickey & Genie casting spells to create Magical Moments for the guests?
Just a small update to this... we have heard that the three good fairies will NOT be in this show sadly. The main "magical" characters will be Sorcerer Mickey, Genie, the Fairy Godmother, and Merlin. The show will also feature just about every prince and princess.
I'm hoping this show has atleast a basic storyline and not just the characters having a "party".
First full video is up
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I personally am not a fan, I loved showtime spectacular and this is to me is below par on many levels. Its nice seeing the Princesses but apart from that its long winded and boring.
I totally agree but thanks for posting the You Tube link!
I also agree, also there is very little english in the show - hard to follow. So the storyline is that Mickey wants to be a magician so he calls on the Genie, Merlin and the Fairy godmother who change him into sorceror Mickey. Then for the finnally he waves his wand and the Princesses appear? Dissapointed.
OMG - dull, staging to where the only view is from the front, and I was hoping for at least the Fantasmic firework fingers, but no joy. What a wasted opportunity. Oh well, at least it is only once a day, and therefore not wasting a huge amount of money.
Hmmmmm, I had some hopes after the terrible hub shows over the years and then a good show that was on for 2010/11, I was hoping this would be an improvement. I was also hoping with a magic theme, we would have had at least some villain action.
This is shaping up to be a very lame celebration.
Agreed, lots of French. What happened to the DLP policy where it was supposed to be 50/50. Have you noticed how often English is given to the characters that are already hard to understand (Donald) or where they mainly use made up words?
I know it is in France, and that just about the majority of visitors are French, but the 50/50 policy used to work so much better (remembering that it is not just for English guests benefits, but other European countries where people may know more English than French too.
The dancing is nice to a degree, and it is great that there are some pyro, but yes, entertainment has taken a further dip. Thank goodness Tarzan at least is returning for a bit.
Question, will the attractions be running while this show is on?
Thanks for the video!
That show is a huge disappointment and waste of money. I don't like it at all. It's better to use the time for attractions.
You would think that since there would be only one showing a day they would pull out all the stops, there was so much potential aswell.
Also, while we're on the subject of language - would it not be possible to have different showtimes? One completely in french and another in english? I think that would be a much better approach.
Little empty, but magical ;)
Already decided that I'm not going to bother with this. The pyro's are nice but the plot is weak and since my French is awful, I hardly understand it!
Just watched it and my thoughts are very lacking in english in my opinion, nice to see the face genie thats a change.
The pyro is good makes a change from what they have been using the last few years, few nice mines being used.
The music they are using for the princesses entrance is the music from candelebration christmas version entrance i think can anyone confirm its a very mixed up soundtrack
in all opinion i would just like to see a slight bit more english.
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I've had a thought about the whole different language thing, and I've decided that they have no idea what they're doing. Mickey should always speak English because he is quintessentially an American creation. The genie can speak french in my oppinion because it should be in a genie's power to be bilingual. The fairy godmother is actually from France so heaven knows why she's the only one speaking English, and Merlin should speak English because he's, well, English. Then you'd have a fair 50/50 show where we'd all be happy!
Just my two cents on the whole thing.
It would have been brilliant if they had made it a magic show! I'm sure there are loads of big and elaborate tricks that they could have done, even with the constraints that they have.
I don't know what the characters were actually trying to do...? Disappointed the show isn't as bi-lingual as the Showtime Spectacular, lots of guests aren't going to have a clue what's going on.
very disappointed in 90% of it in french. My 2 and 4 year wont have a clue whats going. They will love the princesses though. Could of done some of he princesses songs. Would of preferred it to have stayed NGF hub show, atleast the girls could of had a little dance. :(
Quote from: "Festival Disney"I've had a thought about the whole different language thing, and I've decided that they have no idea what they're doing. Mickey should always speak English because he is quintessentially an American creation. The genie can speak french in my oppinion because it should be in a genie's power to be bilingual. The fairy godmother is actually from France so heaven knows why she's the only one speaking English, and Merlin should speak English because he's, well, English. Then you'd have a fair 50/50 show where we'd all be happy!
Just my two cents on the whole thing.
Couldn't agree more! :thumbs:
I agree about the magic show point, the scene with Merlin pulling things out his bag was a wasted oppertunity - they didn't really use that to it's full potential.
To me, the show felt like an over-dramatised attempt to introduce Rapunzel and Flynn to the princess group.
They should have let each couple come to the front and do a small 30 sec to 1 min dance and romantics scene, that would have been better... therefore more music. Like with the NGF show, they amount of songs that you could dance and sing with.
But Yeah I agree with the lack of English is disappointing. The show is also somewhat disappointing too, especially since its only going to be shown once a day. =/
Oh well, but I thought they would have made a more "song and dance about it" because of the Princess Meet and Greet isn't happening till 2012. (Possibly)
The show concept is nice, I like the teaching Mickey magic aspect, but I wish he'd speak English again. I'm getting really fed up of going to the park to watch a show I don't understand!
Genie is a wasted opportunity also, why go for the face character version of him and then use a soundtrack? Let him ad-lib his lines occasionally to keep it humourous and relevant, Facilier did it at Halloween! I don't understand why they didn't just use the character they've been using for years?
Nice to see some sound excerpts of Wishes in there though!
Quote from: "15MagicalYears"You would think that since there would be only one showing a day they would pull out all the stops, there was so much potential aswell.
Also, while we're on the subject of language - would it not be possible to have different showtimes? One completely in french and another in english? I think that would be a much better approach.
What an excellent idea - two shows, one in French the other in English.
They have wasted an opportunity for a great show and it is certainly not the quality expected of a hub show, but as a piece of 'fluff' I quite liked it. :oops:
That would be great to have one show in French and another in English - they used to do that for the Lion King Show years' back. We saw the show in front of the castle on our last trip September 2010 and it was so much better. The only thing I did think was good was the princesses but shame they were only in the last 5 minutes out of a 16 minute show!
I have to say (based purely on the video) this was one of the least impressive LARGE Disney Shows I have seen. Shame really. I agree I think there is a big problem with the % of English and French.
Totally agree with You guys.
I was so excited about this show - couldnt wait to see it in 3 weeks... and now when i sow what they made... at first i was like: eeee maybe its some preshow... not full show - cos the festival starts on 6th.... - but obviously this is it.... and its not really entertaining - at least for me. Last year the show was great - extremely colourful - and thats what we were expecting this year ... and what do we get? Before the princesses show on the stage its boring... seriously boring ( and yes i also dont understand french so except godmother i didnt have a clue what was going on) ... disappointed :( thought it will be pure magic...
Well I do understand French, and it is still very boring. But then if you concentrate on toons, it will be.
Hey all, i just found this video on youtube and thought that this would have been a much better show to have on this year instead of the quite boring show they are planning on doing, yes it may need a few changes like the last song with jack and sally could be where the princesses come out, get rid of the fireworks but keep the pyros and it is a really good show, If they really want the genie in there you could also fit him in. This show uses the 50/50 english to french thing people have spoken about and i much prefer it. Let me know what you think
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sorry put them on the wrong way round, bottom one is first.
love
ben xxxxx
Actually i was watching this video like 2 weeks ago and was getting so excited cos i thought mickeys magical celebration will look similar to this one :)
Its a very nice show :)
Just read on the character central forum that the show seen in the videos might not be the final version. According to the rumour there may be more english and the genie may speak off the recorded soundtrack! Good news in my opinion.
That is good news so disappointing compared to showtime spectacular.
Hmmmm, I wonder if that is because of the feedback from guests there and the on-line community?
there will be a few tiny changes in choreography... but no major changes.
The Genie will not speak live!! That was the final version!! There will be no more English!!
I can only suggest you avoid the show, take french lessons, or use your common sence; the show isn't that complicated!!
Mickey want to be a magican, he finds the lamp, genie arrives with 3 wishes, he wishes for a costume, he later wishes for a wand, then his last wish he uses his wand to make all the princesses appear to "share the magic" with everyone!! the end...
Poppy, I do speak French. Sadly my wife and my children do not, several of my German and Spanish friends do not either. The policy was there for a reason, this demonstrates a change from policy (also the Inventions Hawaiian Buffet labels were wrong too, labling lamb as chicken - but accurate in French; and curry as being a lime and garlic dish). So this is not the only linguistic issue.
Also, the show is not great. I suspect you may be one of the performers in it as your post sounded very defensive. well this is not about the performers, this is about the direction and writing. Choices made.
Personally I would rather not have the stage on the hub anyway, while most of the other theatre venues rot away. But at least last year's show was halfway decent and universal. This one, not so much so at all.
Personally I am not a fan of character shows just to see the characters awayway. Tarzan and Lion King Were different, as was Mulan. They are in a whole different league than this one.
I thought the first hub show a few years ago was poor, but it was still better than this one. I may change my mind seeing this live in a couple of weeks, as we all know that video does not often do live productions a justice, but it will still not change the fact that the linguistic choices could exclude 48% of DLP's guests (or less, the 48% being non French, not all of them with speak English either, but a great many will).
Again a show that match the expectation of a normal 5 year old guest. And again something that disapoint me.
Ok good basic: Mickey wants to be a magican. But then it all end up in "LET THE PRINCESSES ON STAGE - THE GUESTS WANT TO SEE THEM". That´s something we seems to have in every single show. I don´t get it. Is there somewhere in the story department a mad head that only can make the points MICKEY MOUSE - PRINCESSES (and sometimes VILLAINS) and put them together with a bad sentences like "Let them share the magic".
It´s not the badest show I ever saw in my life. It just match the expectations. The sad point is: It doesn´t make more. I want to be surprised by disney. A "match the expectations" feeling isn´t very "Disneyland" for me. It´s a B ticket. Maybe a C.
Then with the lack of people on stage I really really really don´t get why this show is presented on octopus stage on central plaza? Rip that thing off. This kind of little shows are perfect for the castle stage. Oh wait a moment...wasn´t the entertainment department the people who wanted the castle stage without benches? Maybe they should use their brains more to make better shows and entertainment then destroy the parks with BIG stages on central plaza or NO benches at the castle stage.
We're not saying that the show is hard to follow or complicated, it's just that the story is awful and the stage is at most points in the show empty-looking.
I also think its pretty harsh to say we should learn French, I know basic French but my 5 year old doesn't. When I watched this with her she kept asking me what was happening, she didn't even have a clue what was going on or what was said. It would be nice if another character did speak English, might make the story a little easier to follow.
Quote from: "littlemermaid83"I also think its pretty harsh to say we should learn French, I know basic French but my 5 year old doesn't. When I watched this with her she kept asking me what was happening, she didn't even have a clue what was going on or what was said. It would be nice if another character did speak English, might make the story a little easier to follow.
completely agree. Someone wrote its made for a 5 year old. I dont think a non french speaking child under 10 is going to concentrate for the whole show. They wont understand whats happening and ask loooads of questions.
Well I think you should all please write in to DLP and demand more English!
I'll praise the day and I'll throw a huge party when we hear a new recording of Mickey in English on a show here in Paris - (Fingers crossed for the 20th.) 70% of the cast on this show are english, and most of them don't even know whats going on! :roll:
However, I am happier to have a french mickey, speaking just French. Unlike the early days on shows like c'est magique and music and the magic when Mickey spoke english with the most horrendous French accent! Things have certainly improved on that front.
As a final note, in the orignal script merlin was in english, unfortunaly the voice of Merlin in the US took ill and was unavailable to record the track in time, they are going to keep the French track now though, its not temporary!
Quote from: "mdw"completely agree. Someone wrote its made for a 5 year old. I dont think a non french speaking child under 10 is going to concentrate for the whole show. They wont understand whats happening and ask loooads of questions.
My invisable dog could of wrote a better version of this for a 5 year old lol.
Bring back Showtime spectacular or Party Time with Mickey? :P
I still say that this should have been a proper magic show. If you combined that with the song and dance, that would have been a show that would really wow the audience! :D
It should ;) Like so often if we talk about big shows on central plaza it should or could. They could let make every magican a special trick. They could bring dlp guest on stage asking there magical wish: "I want to meet the princesses" explain a little girl and KAZOOOW the princesses are around her. Smiling faces everywhere. They could make a show.They could have let appear sorcerer mickey at the upper tower balcony of the castle at the end of the show keeping up his firework fingers. It could be big and wonderful.
But again with no ideas in mind and little budget we ask the entertainment department this year only louder: Why have you this big stage on central plaza? A place that would more magical without this stage most of the time...wait a minute...that should be the biggest trick of the show: Let the stage disappear.
Quote from: "Riebi"wait a minute...that should be the biggest trick of the show: Let the stage disappear.
Ha ha ha! I like that one! :lol: But I can understand why they would need that stage for the fireworks. Other than that, the other stage would be a lot better for this (although it's quite difficult to have a show there without any seats :P ).
On Wednesday they practised the new show and I managed (had to run because they walk so fast!) to get a very nice Close-Up shot of the new Genie face character:
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He he! Paparazzi. XD That's was a good shot, considering you were in a rush.
It's a nice costume, but I prefer the mask, personally. :)
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Quote from: "Meph"... It's a nice costume, but I prefer the mask, personally. :)
Hmm, I prefer the face character I have to admit. It is well done and the Genie mask (like Buzz) just doesn't look right to me somehow:
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I prefere the mask, too, but in the Aladdin Musical at DCA, the Genie is also a face character and doesn't use a mask.
It was not a good show either. The kids kept asking me what was going on. And it was so crowded. It added to the feeling of wasting time. It did mean the other nights the queues were shorter though, same with the parade time. We skipped it this year every time, and it meant we got more done.
Do the characters do meet and greets behind the stage as happened with showtime spectacular. My daughter very keen to meet fantasia mickey and the fairy godmother.
It says in the programme listing that this is on everyday at 19:00 but how can that be when the park closes at 19:00 in the weekdays now? Does this only run at the weekends?
Quote from: "stevenlatham01"It says in the programme listing that this is on everyday at 19:00 but how can that be when the park closes at 19:00 in the weekdays now? Does this only run at the weekends?
Even though the park closes at 19:00 the show is going on. It means all the other lands close and when the show is finished, people leaves the park. You know, even though the park close at 19:00 as far as I know, it means that 19:00 is the last time to stand in the queue (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) for the attractions.
Quote from: "norhel"Quote from: "stevenlatham01"It says in the programme listing that this is on everyday at 19:00 but how can that be when the park closes at 19:00 in the weekdays now? Does this only run at the weekends?
Even though the park closes at 19:00 the show is going on. It means all the other lands close and when the show is finished, people leaves the park. You know, even though the park close at 19:00 as far as I know, it means that 19:00 is the last time to stand in the queue (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) for the attractions.
Your right 7pm is when the line to attractions close etc.
I found a vedio on youtube on friday 19 august the show stop halwaf thought can you tell why and what happen
Do you have a link to that video? It's help to see what it was.
I'd guess though that it'd be a technical error, the main lift in the stage not rising or something going out of sync with the rest of the show which meant that they halted the remainder of the show until sorted so that guests didn't see a below standard show.
(Not that the show has a particularly high standard anyway...)
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I just saw the video over on another forum, and it looks odd, like he just falls through the floor. I understand it is opening for the Princesses to rise up - but I thought he was walking and then fell through.
Any who, I hope the cast is okay. :thumbs:
(The Fairy-god-mother's and Merlin's reaction looks 100% genuinely shocked for a split second. But still nice to know they all kept calm)
where the other vedio
It looks like the lift he's on drops, I think there's one around that area and I'd assume it'd have a fast reset on it to lower back to ground level for each use. He goes down too straight for him to have been walking and moving forwards, as he most likely would have lost balance and fallen forward at the same time.
I don't think it's that bad, it's probably on par with the many 'Mickey falling during Fantasmic' videos on there in severity?
The show is still running isn't it?
Well, while Disney put this show on, look at some of the other shows in other parks that debutted this year:
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Ravelijn Efteling
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Imperio Show at the Hotel Colloseo - Europa Park
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I really hope we get something more special for the 20th. As it is, Efteling will have their own World of Color type show next year.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"Well, while Disney put this show on, look at some of the other shows in other parks that debutted this year:
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I really hope we get something more special for the 20th. As it is, Efteling will have their own World of Color type show next year.
I couldn't agree more, Dave! It's really a shame. Disneyland Paris used to feature amazingly high quality shows! The last ones they created (many years ago) "The Tarzan Encounter" and "The Legend of the Lion King" were easily the best shows any Disney Park had to offer, imho only rivalled by the "Disney's Aladdin" show in California. But now they only create these cheap "dance" thingies (which don't deserve to be called shows) and to imagine they even had to build a (cheap and ugly) stage for them, right in the middle of Central Plaza, obstructing the view of the Castle for all over Main Street and destroying the whole atmosphere of Central Plaza! And they did that although there are now FOUR (!) beautifully designed and professionally equipped stages in Disneyland Park, most of which haven't seen any real show for a very long time. Imho it is a very sad situation. I'm not sure what the real reason behind this situation is, but somehow I have a feeling it has to do with money (of course) and the complex French rules in regards of the rights of artists and actors (if they perform longer then X minutes they have to be paid more, if they do something special like dance they have to be paid more etc.). But that is just a hunch. Anyway, it is a very sad situation.
At least they were smart enough to bring back Tarzan this year! :?
It is cost related, no doubt. The reason the parade choreography is so simple in Paris compared to Anaheim or Tokyo is in France, they do have to pay performers more for more difficult routines. Like I say, I hope we see some improvements for the 20th and this was a way of saving money towards it.
Quote from: "davewasbaloo"It is cost related, no doubt. The reason the parade choreography is so simple in Paris compared to Anaheim or Tokyo is in France, they do have to pay performers more for more difficult routines. Like I say, I hope we see some improvements for the 20th and this was a way of saving money towards it.
You shouldn't get your hopes too high, but I also hope that those cheap shows over the last years were just for saving money for something big and better for the 20th birthday. I think I read it hear or maybe on another board, but someone talked to an Imagineer on a Disney cruise about the ugly stage on Central Plaza and it seemed that even WDI is embarrassed by that stage.
it should be noted that the Tarzan Encounter is back on this summer and it's still very good, we saw it twice.
That is a very fair point, Tarzan is excellent and I am glad it was back for the summer. However i would very much like to see some new and excellent entertainment for the 20th.
I would like to see some new and excellent entertainment for the the 20th, too.
hmmmm..... Mickey mouse, genie, lots of princes and princesses, sorry but im going against the general feeling, i love it! didnt watch it all because im going and if its still on i dont want to have seen it online, will completely ruin the suprise!
Its in french yes............... but u no what the park is IN FRANCE, so as far as im concerned i think DLP do a fantastic job with there english as it is! Well done DLP yet again!! ;)
Quote from: "mikads"Its in french yes............... but u no what the park is IN FRANCE, so as far as im concerned i think DLP do a fantastic job with there english as it is! Well done DLP yet again!! ;)
I see your point, but the park is meant to appeal to the whole of Europe. Usually about 25% of DLP's visitors are British, and even more will have English as a second language. :)
Quote from: "jennis"That must be very exciting! What a pity! I have missed it. :(
unless you are not going to DLP until after March 2012, you haven't missed it - its this year's festival at DLP.
Elaine
The show will finish in January as they are taking down the hub stage then to get ready for the 20th anniversary.
Can't wait for that!!!