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When I rode Rock n Roller Coaster last March, for the first time ever I was just 'slightly' disappointed. Now, I never thought I'd ever say "Rock n Roller Coaster" and "disappointed" in the same sentence, but unfortunately that's the case. :shock:

If anyone here rode RnRC back when it opened, you might remember that there were loads of lights, really loud bassy music, and smoke machines almost filling the whole building. It created a really "awesome" experience, and it was those things that got me addicted to the ride.

However, when I rode it last March I noticed that the quality of the attraction seems to have changed quite a lot. First of all, the music is definitely not as loud and bassy as it has been before, and the audio doesn't work more often now. Secondly, the lights - There aren't as many now. I don't know whether they're broken or just not working for some other reason, but it really subtracts from the experience. Finally, and what I believe it the most disappointing thing, is the lack of smoke. The smoke is what can change RnRC from a "good" ride to an "amazing" ride. When I last rode it, there was no smoke whatsoever and this caused you to be able to see all the track and the walls of the building really clearly.

I don't know whether these effects are broken, or if the CM's just don't want to put them into action. But the lack of all these things that the ride originally had has made RnRC just a "good" ride now for me. If all these effects returned, then RnRC would become my favourite attraction once again. But for now, my favourite ride will be Tower Of Terror.

I've created this topic so I can hear other people's opinions on this. I expect some of you will have noticed no difference to the ride, but to a huge fan like me, the differences are quite major.

I also want people to give the latest updates from Rock n Roller Coaster here, saying if the smoke machines are working and if the music quality is good etc.

I hope you've all made it to the end of this post without falling asleep. :lol:

Indeed i do think it needs some work done too it, Subwoofers are delicate parts of kit and sadly they wont last long in a rollercoaster which is why the loud shaky bass noises have gone and its a little more "echoy"

Smoke, maybe they just cant be bothered ? or maybe they realised the rollercoaster was on fire or something ? :P

Im not sure how the controls work, but it might be that, one CM might have all the effects or something turned on and another might be more controlled about it all

Quote from: "Nicholas-c"Indeed i do think it needs some work done too it, Subwoofers are delicate parts of kit and sadly they wont last long in a rollercoaster which is why the loud shaky bass noises have gone and its a little more "echoy"

Smoke, maybe they just cant be bothered ? or maybe they realised the rollercoaster was on fire or something ? :P

Im not sure how the controls work, but it might be that, one CM might have all the effects or something turned on and another might be more controlled about it all

I think it might be the CM's too. When I went in November 2006 there was no smoke, few lights, and the music quality in most of the soundtrackers was quite bad (Apart from Soundtracker 1, which for some reason at that time had the best music quality I've ever heard :shock:). However, when I went in September 2007, there was quite a lot of smoke and most of the lights seemed to be working. The only thing that wasn't too good was the music quality. :?

Either the ride had some sort of refurb during the time between my two visits, or the CMs were feeling much nicer in Sept 2007. I think the second option is more likely, since I don't recall any refurb on the ride between my two visits.

So yes, maybe it is down to who is working on the ride on the day...

The smoke was turned off a few years ago because apparently the dry ice can make the floor or emergency escapes a bit slippery. It then returned fairly recently and seems to be much more regular. It's never as thick as it used to be, but I've seen it on most rides recently. Maybe it's on/off throughout the day, so the floor has chance to dry or something? It does seem strange dry ice would do that.

It's generally doing a bit better these days than say 2 or 3 years ago, but there do seem to be fewer lights. I'm not sure if that's just my imagination. The ones at the end still blind me.

Music is usually pretty good, not exactly "loud" but better than SM. I've maybe had 1 in 10 rides without sound, compared to about 1 in 3 or even 1 in 2 at SMM2.

Still a great ride every time though, and really surprisingly popular on DLRP Review. It constantly gets 9 and 10 stars (as you'll be pleased to know RNRCj :wink: ).

Quote from: "Baloo"The smoke was turned off a few years ago because apparently the dry ice can make the floor or emergency escapes a bit slippery. It then returned fairly recently and seems to be much more regular. It's never as thick as it used to be, but I've seen it on most rides recently. Maybe it's on/off throughout the day, so the floor has chance to dry or something? It does seem strange dry ice would do that.

It's very VERY strange, being a thespian I've racked my brains on how as you point out Baloo dry ice is that very thing... Dry! Its creation is that of a cloud therefore a dense gas. The only thing I've seen dry ice do is create a cough, and I've worked on stage with it being pumped in 20 minutes before the curtain went up...

Quote from: "Baloo"The smoke was turned off a few years ago because apparently the dry ice can make the floor or emergency escapes a bit slippery. It then returned fairly recently and seems to be much more regular. It's never as thick as it used to be, but I've seen it on most rides recently. Maybe it's on/off throughout the day, so the floor has chance to dry or something? It does seem strange dry ice would do that.

I've also heard that it is something to do with the track and emergency escapes getting slippery. In fact, I rode RnRC once with the smoke machines on, but when I came off and went to ride again the ride was closed. I came back about an hour later and it was open again, but there was no more smoke - They must have cleared it out for some reason. Fortunately they had it on again the next day though. :)

Quote from: "Baloo"It's generally doing a bit better these days than say 2 or 3 years ago, but there do seem to be fewer lights. I'm not sure if that's just my imagination. The ones at the end still blind me.

I don't think it is your imagination because I think the same. :lol: I've posted 2 on-ride videos below - One of them is RnRC is back in 2002, when the effects were all working. The other is from this year. You can see that there were a lot more lights in 2002 than there are now.

2002 - the on-ride part starts at about 3:57...
[youtube:3udtymsl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIPorBQxvoM[/youtube:3udtymsl]

2008...
[youtube:3udtymsl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6cT04NseP4[/youtube:3udtymsl]

See the difference?

Quote from: "Baloo"Music is usually pretty good, not exactly "loud" but better than SM. I've maybe had 1 in 10 rides without sound, compared to about 1 in 3 or even 1 in 2 at SMM2.

Yes, I have to admit, the music quality is not as bad as I made it seem. Although it's still not as good as it was when the ride opened.

Quote from: "Baloo"Still a great ride every time though, and really surprisingly popular on DLRP Review. It constantly gets 9 and 10 stars (as you'll be pleased to know RNRCj :wink: ).

I'm surprised that it's rated higher than Tower Of Terror. :shock:

I still think the ride is awesome, but i wouldn't mind for it to be closed for a few days or so to fix the effects.

Hi,
I don't know if you are right with the light effects...
I recognized, that some soundtrackers have a light show with fewer effects than others.
I think the two videos are from two different light shows, so it's possible that you see fewer effects on the one, but that this is normal!
I hope you understand what i mean :-) I don't say you are wrong, but maybe this is one more reason for light shows with fewer effects....

I think the smoke was one of the best things in Rock'n'Roller coaster... But are you sure its dry ice they use to create the smoke? Isn't dry Ice quite expensive? I think it's cheaper to use fog machines with some kind of special smoke-water (fog-fluid)...

bye
Arno

Quote from: "arno-hh"Hi,
I don't know if you are right with the light effects...
I recognized, that some soundtrackers have a light show with fewer effects than others.
I think the two videos are from two different light shows, so it's possible that you see fewer effects on the one, but that this is normal!
I hope you understand what i mean :-) I don't say you are wrong, but maybe this is one more reason for light shows with fewer effects....

I think the smoke was one of the best things in Rock'n'Roller coaster... But are you sure its dry ice they use to create the smoke? Isn't dry Ice quite expensive? I think it's cheaper to use fog machines with some kind of special smoke-water (fog-fluid)...

bye
Arno

I believe the substances are the same...

Quote from: "Captain Pan"I believe the substances are the same...

Wikipedia says that dry ice is very cold carbon dioxide (-79 °C) and that dry ice isn't used quite often today. I also found out, that the fog from dry ice is just to have smoke on the ground (because it's so cold). So I am very sure it's not dry ice they use ;-) blablabla.... ;-)
But back to the topic!

I also think that the ride is more bumpy then in its early days...

bye
Arno

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Quote from: "Captain Pan"I also think that the ride is more bumpy then in its early days...

That would just be "Wear and tear" because its older, the steel isn't as smooth bolts and slightly looser than originally (but still tight :P (i hope)) and possibly joints connecting wheels to the trains etc

The one in Florida was pretty bumpy, almost as bumpy as our Space Mountain, but that's Vekoma I guess...

Smoke worked last month for sure.

Quote from: "arno-hh"Hi,
I don't know if you are right with the light effects...
I recognized, that some soundtrackers have a light show with fewer effects than others.
I think the two videos are from two different light shows, so it's possible that you see fewer effects on the one, but that this is normal!
I hope you understand what i mean :-) I don't say you are wrong, but maybe this is one more reason for light shows with fewer effects....

I don't think it does depend on which Soundtracker you ride. The only thing that changes is the colours of the lights, not the amount of lights.

Quote from: "arno-hh"I also think that the ride is more bumpy then in its early days...

It is slightly more bumpy, but not uncomfortably bumpy at all. I'd still consider it smooth.

Quote from: "raptor1982"Smoke worked last month for sure.

That's good. Hopefully it'll start working more often. :roll:

Talking of RnRc there is a ride which has exactly the same layout...

Xpress it is called

http://rcdb.com/id769.htm (http://rcdb.com/id769.htm%22%20target=%22_blank)

i might have to go and ride it too see what its like with lights :P

Quote from: "Nicholas-c"Talking of RnRc there is a ride which has exactly the same layout...

Xpress it is called

i might have to go and ride it too see what its like with lights :P

Xpress (former Superman the Ride) is a rollercoaster in Walibi World, here in the Netherlands. Its a good ride but very slow at times, especially since there is not much to look at like at Rock n' RollerCoaster. Its quite obvious that this coaster has been designed with the Rock n' RollerCoaster package (theming, music, building etc) in mind. Big Thunder Mountain without the scenery would be lame too, I guess.  :wink:

Besides, another great aspect of Rock n' RollerCoaster is that they ride with multiple trains, while at Xpress they only operate with one or two trains at a time.

I can not believe how bad the state of the RnR was this week! Almost none of the lights were working! It was just all black :S

Does somebody know when they are going to fix the RnR? It's one of the top attractions in the studios but know it's in a really really bad state :(

Wow sorry to read about this, last time I rode this attraction in September I was really impressed by how good this attraction has aged over time, unlike Space Mountain. Lets hope the problem of burnout lights gets delt with urgently.

Merged Japper's topic with the official Rock 'n' Roller Coaster avec Aerosmith topic.  :)

I agree with you Japper. The quality of this attraction seems to have dropped quite dramatically recently. It really is in need of a rehab. Surely it wouldn't take much just to close it for a week and get the all the lights and smoke working again? I've just checked the DLRP website and there are no scheduled closures for it. :( I find it really sad to see my favourite attraction in a bad state like this.

Quote from: "Malin"Wow sorry to read about this, last time I rode this attraction in September I was really impressed by how good this attraction has aged over time, unlike Space Mountain. Lets hope the problem of burnout lights gets delt with urgently.

When I went last Septmember it was good too. Quite a few lights were working and some of the smoke machines were on. Strange how it's suddenly changed in such a short amount of time. :?

I really hope something is done about this soon.

Does anyone know how fast you actually go when you first "blast off" ( :D/ )!

Still no lights, no smoke, nothing, just blackness, and the odd spot light, WHY DisneyLand, why let it go like this.... when it can be so much better.....

it broke down tuesday some electrical I think it was I rode it during the day and there were smoke so maybe what broke is the system that controls the effects  :?:

Quote from: "nathan.jackson"Does anyone know how fast you actually go when you first "blast off" ( :D/ )!

The Rock 'n' Rollercoaster accelerates 91.7 kilometers per hour in 2.8 seconds at the launch.

Quote from: "seanmartina"Still no lights, no smoke, nothing, just blackness, and the odd spot light, WHY DisneyLand, why let it go like this.... when it can be so much better.....

That's really a shame. :(  I am going to be SO disappointed if it's still in this condition when I next visit. It seems there are no scheduled closures soon for it either!

I think Rock 'n' Rollercoaster needs a total refurbishment, like BTM had back in 2006. Does anyone know if there might be a possibility for new soundtracks though? There are a lot of Aerosmith songs that would be awesome for the ride.

Quote from: "mehdi5"I think Rock 'n' Rollercoaster needs a total refurbishment, like BTM had back in 2006. Does anyone know if there might be a possibility for new soundtracks though? There are a lot of Aerosmith songs that would be awesome for the ride.

Agreed, it really needs a refurbishment now. Do they not care about this attraction at all? The ride hasn't been perfect for several years now, but this is just ridiculous. I'm seriously going to complain if it's like this on my next visit.

About new music, I doubt it. But I certainly wouldn't mind if they did change it, as long as it was still Aerosmith. :lol:

after reading about it, it sounded like a very cool ride but reading recent reviews it seems to be a big let down, will be going in October, just hope it gets better for when i go :(

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Quote from: "nathan.jackson"Does anyone know how fast you actually go when you first "blast off" ( :D/ )!

The Rock 'n' Rollercoaster accelerates 91.7 kilometers per hour in 2.8 seconds at the launch.

Blimey, that is quick! Quicker than Space Mountain?

Quote from: "nathan.jackson"

Quote from: "mehdi5"

Quote from: "nathan.jackson"Does anyone know how fast you actually go when you first "blast off" ( :D/ )!

The Rock 'n' Rollercoaster accelerates 91.7 kilometers per hour in 2.8 seconds at the launch.

Blimey, that is quick! Quicker than Space Mountain?

Pretty much Space Mountain only launches with 70 Kilometers per hour.

you have to remember with space mountain aswell, its a small launch up hill, and you start slowing down half way up the hill, With Rock and rollercoaster its constant acceleration until you hit the loop!

Quote from: "seanmartina"Still no lights, no smoke, nothing, just blackness, and the odd spot light, WHY DisneyLand, why let it go like this.... when it can be so much better.....

I tried it maybe Wednesday just before closing, back seat... A few lights (NOTHING like when it opened though, I agree), there was definitely smoke in the air but it wasn't thick like it sometimes is. Music worked well, RNRC generally has a good record on that. They were actually running it with the pre-show too which was nice, not just letting people run through.

It's still very smooth compared to Space. Annoyingly, the lights that always work without fail are the incredibly bright flashing ones at the end that give me a headache.

I notice the selection of Aerosmith merchandise in Rock Around the Shop gets ever smaller... in favour of the same Nightmare Before Christmas stuff you can buy in every other WDS store, especially Tower Hotel Gifts. They're beginning to make me hate that film. :roll:

I heard that Aerosmith's 10 year contract with the Floridian Rock 'n' Roller Coaster will be coming to an end in July next year, and if it isn't re-newed then the ride will have to be re-themed. :shock:

Does anyone know if this will apply to the Paris version also next year? I would hate to lose the Aerosmith theme of the attraction. It would be such a sad, sad day for me. :cry:

Wow, 10 years old!

I know thi ssounds stupid, but I always think of this as a new attraction.....

I remeber riding it in the first month it opened in MGM, and it only seems like a couple of years ago!!

Someone on Disney Central Plaza posted this picture a couple of weeks ago:

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It's a new screen just before the preshow. Does anyone know what is shown on it?

I'm surprised that nobody from this forum has noticed it. :lol:

I've just got back from a trip at DLRP and it was the first time I've been on RNRC so didn't know if the screen was new or not. If it was only new I would have got a better photo or video of it.

The screen just shows general safety information with icons for each of the different points. (The description of the inversions have the icons spinning around.) The screen is kinda similar to the Space Mountain and Crush's coaster's video screens.

Quote from: "Willow"I've just got back from a trip at DLRP and it was the first time I've been on RNRC so didn't know if the screen was new or not. If it was only new I would have got a better photo or video of it.

The screen just shows general safety information with icons for each of the different points. (The description of the inversions have the icons spinning around.) The screen is kinda similar to the Space Mountain and Crush's coaster's video screens.

Ah! I knew someone must've seen it! :D Thanks.

It's quite strange how they've added a video screen now - 6 and a half years after opening. I mean, it's not like Crush's Coaster; with RnRC you can see the most intense part of the ride when you're queuing. Surely people aren't stupid enough to think this is a kiddie ride too. :roll:

And how was your first ride, Willow? I'm sure you're not afraid - like me - of riding fast coasters?
I'll force myself to finally try RnRC for the first time ever, too in December... I'm really scared, especially of the quick start :shock: Is the onride pic taken during the start?!

Quote from: "Nala_84"I'll force myself to finally try RnRC for the first time ever, too in December... I'm really scared, especially of the quick start :shock: Is the onride pic taken during the start?!

Yes, it is. :P It's such a great place to take the photo - The faces some people pull!

I was scared on my first go too (really, really, scared). But I forced myself to go on by quickly pulling down the restraints when I got in the seat - Once you've done that they lock and you can't get out. :twisted:

Just go straight on and try not to stand around watching it - that will just make your fear even worse.

I'm sure you'll love it. :wink:

Quote from: "Nala_84"And how was your first ride, Willow? I'm sure you're not afraid - like me - of riding fast coasters?

I didn't like inversions until recently, much preferred coasters such as Big Thunder Mountain until early this year. My first inversion wasn't until last november.
I took the plunge on my last trip to the resort to go on my first inversion and I haven't stopped going on coasters since.

Its easy once you have got past the first set of turnstyles and when you come off you will wonder why you didn't like the ride.

I'd probably rate RNRC as the best ride I've ever ridden, got on the front row twice and the second time all effects were working (except for my left speaker). Only poor point about the ride was the final corkscrew which would have been better if it was slightly smoother.

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I was also surpised to learn that Vekoma don't acknowledge that they have built the ride, its clearly a Vekoma though.

Also does anyone know what type of launch is used? I thought LSM at first but thought I heard a catch car attaching onto the train.

Quote from: "Willow"I'd probably rate RNRC as the best ride I've ever ridden, got on the front row twice and the second time all effects were working (except for my left speaker). Only poor point about the ride was the final corkscrew which would have been better if it was slightly smoother.

This is a question I ask all the time, but... were the smoke machines working?  :lol:

Quote from: "Willow"Also does anyone know what type of launch is used? I thought LSM at first but thought I heard a catch car attaching onto the train.

According to many sources it does use LSM. I'm thinking that maybe the motors propel the catch-car and not the actual vehicle. :-k

matthew keeps saying if he ever goes back to disney then he wants to go on this ride and sm:m2 well he will get the opertunity in 3 weeks, hes 10 just under 5 foot tall, hes done crush, ToT, indy and btm. will this ride be to extreme for him do you think, its been 5 years since ive been on it and i can tremember it that much

Quote from: "RnRCj"This is a question I ask all the time, but... were the smoke machines working?  :lol:

There was a lot of smoke sometimes but on other rides there was none, the same with the lighting.
The effects don't seem consistent enough, even with rides only 10 minutes apart.

Quote from: "toonarmylass"matthew keeps saying if he ever goes back to disney then he wants to go on this ride and sm:m2 well he will get the opertunity in 3 weeks, hes 10 just under 5 foot tall, hes done crush, ToT, indy and btm. will this ride be to extreme for him do you think, its been 5 years since ive been on it and i can tremember it that much

RNRC is the fastest rollercoaster in DLRP (from what I can find in the internet, max speed in SM is around 45mph, in RNRC it's about 57mph). The acceleration at the start is incredible (terrifying is not a bad word for it....). I've only been on it twice, and both times I was screaming all the way.

But at the same time, it's very smooth (much much smoother than SMM2), so even if it feels faster than SMM2, it's also a lot more pleasant, the loops and everything feel lest violent (at least for me), it's just... faster.

QuoteThe effects don't seem consistent enough, even with rides only 10 minutes apart.

That's obviously because each vehicle has its own lighting show.

Quote from: "Kristof"

QuoteThe effects don't seem consistent enough, even with rides only 10 minutes apart.

That's obviously because each vehicle has its own lighting show.

But it's the colours and the movement of the lights that changes, not how many lights there are. There should be roughly the same amount with each train, and the smoke machines should be working all the time. There certainly shouldn't be a noticable difference in quality with rides just 10 minutes apart.

Quote from: "Kristof"

QuoteThe effects don't seem consistent enough, even with rides only 10 minutes apart.

That's obviously because each vehicle has its own lighting show.

Well obviously they need to fix one trains lighting show then as one has hundreds of lights, the other has barely 20.

Quote from: "RnRCj"Someone on Disney Central Plaza posted this picture a couple of weeks ago:

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It's a new screen just before the preshow. Does anyone know what is shown on it?

I'm surprised that nobody from this forum has noticed it. :lol:

Well that's a pleasant surprise. It looks like a nice new addition to an already great queue line. This can give us a bit more hope for the ride's future, because Disney are clearly trying to improve the experience for it's guests, meaning they are possibly more likely to try and fix all of the broken effects inside the ride :)

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Well that's a pleasant surprise. It looks like a nice new addition to an already great queue line. This can give us a bit more hope for the ride's future, because Disney are clearly trying to improve the experience for it's guests, meaning they are possibly more likely to try and fix all of the broken effects inside the ride :)

It's probably "just" a warning video like the one they added to Crush. Looks great though!

Considering nothing has happened to Crush after they added the video there, don't get your hopes up. :wink:

I found a video of the screen on Dailymotion:

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Looks quite cool to me. :)  I'm surprised it wasn't added earlier.

Wow, has this been made for WDW at the same time by any chance? The production on that video looks incredible. It's a testament to the Imagineers (either that or the tiny budget of the original park) that they actually manage to heighten the experience of an attraction with a safety video.

They could do with having it outside the attraction too. Every time you go on RNRC there's someone who practically leaps out of their skin when they turn the corner and see the launch. A plasma screen would just about fit the theme outside Tour de Force. In fact again, it'd improve the theme.

What a cool video! It really is a great addition, makes me wanna ride the RnR!

I haven't been on Rock'n Roller Coaster yet but it seems like an exciting ride! =D>
I'm so going on it and I want to ride the pink soundtracker which plays : Young Lust, FINE, Love in an elevator.

Aerosmith is one of my favourite bands!

Something so simple, yet so effective. It really must improve the queue line, one or two more wouldn't hurt either (and like Ant said, some outside). Now they just need to work on the inside of RnRC, then move on to the queue lines and pre-shows of Armageddon and Crush.  :wink:  :mrgreen:

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Something so simple, yet so effective. It really must improve the queue line, one or two more wouldn't hurt either (and like Ant said, some outside). Now they just need to work on the inside of RnRC, then move on to the queue lines and pre-shows of Armageddon and Crush.  :wink:  :mrgreen:

Yeah,  some screens around the outside queue area would be great. The one time I had to queue outside I found it extremely boring. The only thing to keep you entertained is the area music. Just some TV screens and a few other props would really improve it. I find it strange how the exterior of RnRC is so poor, yet the second you step inside it's so interesting and (in my opinion) well themed.

Also, there is some good news! Members on Disney Central Plaza say the smoke has been working well recently! :D/

Quote from: "RnRCj"

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Something so simple, yet so effective. It really must improve the queue line, one or two more wouldn't hurt either (and like Ant said, some outside). Now they just need to work on the inside of RnRC, then move on to the queue lines and pre-shows of Armageddon and Crush.  :wink:  :mrgreen:

Yeah,  some screens around the outside queue area would be great. The one time I had to queue outside I found it extremely boring. The only thing to keep you entertained is the area music. Just some TV screens and a few other props would really improve it. I find it strange how the exterior of RnRC is so poor, yet the second you step inside it's so interesting and (in my opinion) well themed.

Also, there is some good news! Members on Disney Central Plaza say the smoke has been working well recently! :D/

Great news about the smoke there, lets hope that DLRP can maintain that =D>

I've just had another idea about the TV screens. What they could do is play the safety announcement in English (with French subtitles), then an Aerosmith music video, followed by the safety announcement in French (with English subtitles) and another music video. This could then repeat with a certain number of there best music videos. Perhaps they could even make it interactive, where people vote for, or text in their favourite music videos to be shown. :)

TV screens outside would be nice but it would take away from the music a little (I find the music VERY mood setting) However saying that, Music videos on the TV's perhaps... with safety announcements between ?

Quote from: "RnRCj"I found a video of the screen on Dailymotion:

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Looks quite cool to me. :)  I'm surprised it wasn't added earlier.

Never saw this video before. But maby becouse I always take the fastpast for RNRC ft Aerosmith.

Quote from: "Disneydavid"Never saw this video before. But maby becouse I always take the fastpast for RNRC ft Aerosmith.

Its new, you would still see it even using the fastpass

Well it looks like the big brother , space mountain mission 2.
There is also a videoscreen added!

I would say that Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is one of the best rides in Disneyland Paris also the ride is much better with the smoke! But every time I go on Rock 'n' Roller Coaster it always has like a 5 minute wating time  :D  the only time it goes to like 20 minutes is when everyone comes out the stunt show - And the ride rocks!

Not much smoke at all over the last few days. It was definitely there because it could be smelt, but not enough to be able to see it. :(

On the plus side - the music on the pink soundtracker is working extremely well at the moment. It's the loudest I've heard it in a while.  :mrgreen:

Quote from: "RnRCj"Not much smoke at all over the last few days. It was definitely there because it could be smelt, but not enough to be able to see it. :(

On the plus side - the music on the pink soundtracker is working extremely well at the moment. It's the loudest I've heard it in a while.  :mrgreen:

It's a shame about the smoke not working, but it's good to hear that the music is louder than ever :)

What did you think of the new safety message TV in the queue RnRCj?

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"What did you think of the new safety message TV in the queue RnRCj?

I think (as Anthony said) that the production on the video is incredible, and it really adds something to the queue line. They just need to put some in the outside part of the queue because there is no visual entertainment whatsoever.

It also looks bigger in real life. :P

when we went earlier this month we felt it has been slowed down, what did you think rnrcj??? but the music in the cars was great.

Quote from: "smurfy74"when we went earlier this month we felt it has been slowed down, what did you think rnrcj??? but the music in the cars was great.

I'm not sure whether it has been intentionally slowed down, but it definitely seems to be slower. I noticed that on the pink soundtracker you used to be able to hear "going down" as you were flying over the very last hill, but now you hear it immediately after the second mid-course brake run; so the trains must have been slowed down somehow. In fact, it seemed to me that it was slowed down after the first death on the Orlando Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, even though it was not the ride's fault at all. :?

I forgot to mention that I reached my 100th ride on Friday! :mrgreen:  I'll post the on-ride photo when I get time.

Quote from: "RnRCj"I forgot to mention that I reached my 100th ride on Friday! :mrgreen:  I'll post the on-ride photo when I get time.

Lol, congratulations! :mrgreen:  =D>

Just after my last visit, I emailed DLRP to see if they will ever get all the effects working again in Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and I've just received a reply!

They basically said a load of stuff I already knew, like that all the attractions experience technical faults sometimes. But there was one sentence that caught my attention:

"Nevertheless, I would like to apologise for any disappointment caused and rest assured that your comments in this matter have been passed on to the Quality Manager of the attraction for his information and internal review."

Hopefully the "Quality Manager" will take what I said into consideration. :P It will be one of the happiest days of my life if I ever ride Rock 'n' Roller Coaster again with music full blast, all lights working, and thick smoke!

I'm also now wondering who the "Quality Manager" is - I've never heard of this job before. :lol:

Maybe the Quality Manager rides the ride constantly to check on its quality.

It would be a perfect job for you RnRCj, all you need to do at the end of every ride say that you aren't sure of the quality and must ride again to get a better perspective.

Quote from: "RnRCj"Just after my last visit, I emailed DLRP to see if they will ever get all the effects working again in Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and I've just received a reply!

They basically said a load of stuff I already knew, like that all the attractions experience technical faults sometimes. But there was one sentence that caught my attention:

"Nevertheless, I would like to apologise for any disappointment caused and rest assured that your comments in this matter have been passed on to the Quality Manager of the attraction for his information and internal review."

Hopefully the "Quality Manager" will take what I said into consideration. :P It will be one of the happiest days of my life if I ever ride Rock 'n' Roller Coaster again with music full blast, all lights working, and thick smoke!

I'm also now wondering who the "Quality Manager" is - I've never heard of this job before. :lol:

It's great to see that they replied to your e-mail, I've got my fingers crossed that it will cause good results :)

Speaking of which, I went on RnRC a few time last week, a there wasn't much smoke unfortunately. However, the programmes did have it down for a refurb on last Friday... :wink:

We're leaving for DLRP at 0940 on Sunday and I guarantee we'll be riding RnRC at some stage on Sunday afternoon!  I'll let you know about the smoke next week when we get back.  Celebrating my 40th birthday there on Monday!

Cheers

Kev

Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"Speaking of which, I went on RnRC a few time last week, a there wasn't much smoke unfortunately. However, the programmes did have it down for a refurb on last Friday... :wink:

I doubt they did anything about the smoke last Friday. Those single day closures are just to replace the launch mechanism.

I do wonder if it is just a case of "switching on" on the smoke machines, or if they are actually broken. To be honest, I think the technicians (or whoever is in charge of the effects) can't be bothered to put them on. Every so often the room gets too full of smoke and has to be cleared out, and I have a feeling they don't want to do that just a couple of times each day. But I may be wrong. :roll:

What I don't understand is how the smoke machines constantly switch from being on and off. During my first few visits in 2002, 2003, it was obviously working at it's best. But then in late 2004 (I think) they turned them off for a while because of a safety issue. Then they came back on again because the issue was resolved (sadly the smoke wasn't as thick though), and since then the smoke has either been off completely or only partly working. The last time I saw the smoke working quite well was in September 2007.

Quote from: "baldkev"We're leaving for DLRP at 0940 on Sunday and I guarantee we'll be riding RnRC at some stage on Sunday afternoon! I'll let you know about the smoke next week when we get back. Celebrating my 40th birthday there on Monday!

Cheers

Kev

Thanks, I would really appreciate that! It will be interesting for me to see if they did "fix" the smoke last Friday. Have a great time! :wink:

Quote from: "baldkev"We're leaving for DLRP at 0940 on Sunday and I guarantee we'll be riding RnRC at some stage on Sunday afternoon!  I'll let you know about the smoke next week when we get back.  Celebrating my 40th birthday there on Monday!

Cheers

Kev

We'd really appreciate that, thanks. I hope you have a great trip and a great 40th Birthday :mrgreen:

According to a member on Disney Central Plaza, the smoke was working well last Sunday! Maybe they did get it fixed on Friday? :lol:

It will be interesting to see how long they can keep this up now.

The annoying thing is, this always seems to happen when I haven't got a trip planned. I'll definitely make sure my next trip is right after one of the closure days. :P

As promised here's my RnRC 'smoke' report -

Sun 11th Jan, 3.35pm (very precise this as it was the first thing we did after ToT) - not much smoke at all, even my kids, who were comparing it to RnRC WDW, said they were surprised that they could see the track.

Mon 12th and Tues 13th - We rode it a whole load of times as there was no queue at all, it was the same as Sunday, a bit of smoke around the floor.

Weds 14th (our last day) - Again we rode it a fair few times and there was definitely waaay more smoke, looked great with the lights illuminating it.

We're all looking forward to DHS in 2010.

Have to say that we all thought that ToT at DLRP was better then ToT at WDW.

Cheers

Kev

Quote from: "baldkev"As promised here's my RnRC 'smoke' report -

Sun 11th Jan, 3.35pm (very precise this as it was the first thing we did after ToT) - not much smoke at all, even my kids, who were comparing it to RnRC WDW, said they were surprised that they could see the track.

Mon 12th and Tues 13th - We rode it a whole load of times as there was no queue at all, it was the same as Sunday, a bit of smoke around the floor.

Weds 14th (our last day) - Again we rode it a fair few times and there was definitely waaay more smoke, looked great with the lights illuminating it.

We're all looking forward to DHS in 2010.

Have to say that we all thought that ToT at DLRP was better then ToT at WDW.

Cheers

Kev

Thanks so, so much Kev! Sounds like it was working well on the last day. When you say "looked great with the lights illuminating it" that tells me that there really was a lot of smoke. It must reflect the lights or something, because there always seems to be more lights when there is a lot of smoke.

Thanks again! I really do appreciate 'smoke' updates. :P

here is a good video i found on youtube showing the inside of RNRC

[youtube:221ctfys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FklNXVCR9VE[/youtube:221ctfys]

DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADY :-"  :-"
OR
SWEET EMOTIONNNNNNN :-"  :-"
LOVED THE RIDE!!!

Great video! Such a great ride!

my tip for this ride would be go on it asap.....before they shut it for a `technical fault`....been at dlrp for 5 days ....it was shut for 2 of the days i visited the studios....also shut ocassionally were tram tours,motors show....did not get on it at all...

Quote from: "starchild"been at dlrp for 5 days ....it was shut for 2 of the days i visited the studios

That would be because of the fire that happened (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6796) there. This isn't usual :P

I visited the park at 9-10-11 of June and the rock n roller coaster was with almost no lights at all during the ride... (not to mention no smoke as well) At my first ride I thought that it was nothing special and with a small fix it was going to be OK the next day... But nothing...

I noticed as well that the 've changed the guitars in the pre-show to Gibsons and Epiphones (which is owned by Gibson) which is a nice touch...

Thanks skalos. Very disappointing that the show is already dead, less than 2 weeks after the refurb. I don't see how they could keep all those effects working for at least 2 years in 2002/2003, but now they can barely keep half the lightshow working for more than a few days.

If the attraction is in that bad a state, it should be closed. Disney should be embarrassed to have it open. Back in the first few years of operation, if any more than 25% of the show was down the attraction would have to be closed until the problems were resolved. I witnessed it several times. It was actually worth having the ride close for maybe half an hour every now and then just to get the show working properly. It seems that rule doesn't apply anymore.

That is really a bad show and it makes me angry that only after a few days it's broken again.

Nevertheless during our last visit in September the light show was working and there was also some smoke.

Maybe it is working and they've forgotten to turn it on :lol:  
Or Disney thinks that most of the guests wouldn't recognize that the effects aren't working, because the just want to ride a fast rollercoaster and wouldn't bother about the  "show" (aka Disney-Experience), like Disneyfans do. So Disney could save some money, although it wouldn't be that much.

There's been a whole world of negativity towards RnRC recently.

Yes ok, I'll admit a few light bulbs need changing - but its still an AWESOME coaster!

By far the fastest and also SMOOTHEST coaster ride in both parks.  The queue is never as insane as Crush so re-rides are a no brainer.  It has AEROSMITH playing in your ears as you ride!  It goes 0-58 in 3 seconds - straight into a loop!

I love, love, love this ride and nothing you can say will stop that!

MM

I love this ride, too, but of all the rides in both parks this one is in the worst condition concerning special effects. Although SM:MII is very bumpy, at least all the special effects were always working when we have been on.

I really hope that RnRC will be fixed soon, because it still is my favorite rollercoaster. And I like this version better that the US one.

Quote from: "Magic M"There's been a whole world of negativity towards RnRC recently.

Yes ok, I'll admit a few light bulbs need changing - but its still an AWESOME coaster!

By far the fastest and also SMOOTHEST coaster ride in both parks.  The queue is never as insane as Crush so re-rides are a no brainer.  It has AEROSMITH playing in your ears as you ride!  It goes 0-58 in 3 seconds - straight into a loop!

I love, love, love this ride and nothing you can say will stop that!

MM

It is a great coaster... when everything works. When half the show is down, it's just dull and a waste of time. The effects are what RnRC is all about. I fell in love with the RnRC that had hundreds of lights, thick smoke, and unique lighting sequences for each train. Last time I visited, a load of lighting was out in the load area, many lights were out in the main show, and no smoke.

RnRC without the lightshow and smoke is like BTM without the mountain.

Well I also LOVE RnRC... Is one of my favourite rides in dlrp... But when I visited dlrp at December it was in a much better condition... For me the show is very important so I was really dissapointed on my last visit...

They are fully aware of the situation with the coaster and the coaster will go down for it's first big rehab September 2009 unfortunatly the park is too busy over the next few months to do the work before then I hope this puts everyone's mind at rest.

Quote from: "phantom247"They are fully aware of the situation with the coaster and the coaster will go down for it's first big rehab September 2009 unfortunatly the park is too busy over the next few months to do the work before then I hope this puts everyone's mind at rest.

Great news!! Where is this information from? I heard Rock was only being closed on the 30th September - is it being extended into October as well? Or will it only take a day?

I would have never said it's first major rehab if I did not mean just that as far as I was informed by a Cast Member this will be down for most of September but will reopen in time for Halloween celebrations the problems have become to great to be fixed overnight or during a one day shutdown, one day shutdowns are usually used for computer updates and catapult work etc only.

Quote from: "phantom247"I would have never said it's first major rehab if I did not mean just that as far as I was informed by a Cast Member this will be down for most of September but will reopen in time for Halloween celebrations the problems have become to great to be fixed overnight or during a one day shutdown, one day shutdowns are usually used for computer updates and catapult work etc only.

Thanks phantom247! I wondered why it was only listed for a day's closure. The one day closures are usually just to replace the catch-car. I'm so glad it's finally going down for a major refurb! Hopefully we'll see all the lights working again in the main ride, as well as all the lights patterns in the load/unload areas. AND all ten smoke machines!! :mrgreen:

If anyone has any more information, please share! I'm very interested! This is fantastic news!

It's official. I have done 50 rides :D (52 actually...) 50th ride was Nine lives soundtracker. Most the effects are working tho, Everything outside of the actual ride works a-ok.

Also, As you walk past the ride ops, there is a computer screen with keyboard and mouse infront of it, A new entry appears on this screen every time the ride launches, Every now and then there is a red entry, i couldn't make out the text... Its free for all to view so if you happen to know ;)

Quote from: "Nicholas-c"It's official. I have done 50 rides :D (52 actually...) 50th ride was Nine lives soundtracker. Most the effects are working tho, Everything outside of the actual ride works a-ok.

Also, As you walk past the ride ops, there is a computer screen with keyboard and mouse infront of it, A new entry appears on this screen every time the ride launches, Every now and then there is a red entry, i couldn't make out the text... Its free for all to view so if you happen to know ;)

Congratulations on the 52 rides Nicholas! Nice to hear the Nine Lives soundtracker is actually running, I haven't had that one in about 4 years now. :wink:

I'm fairly sure there are still a load of lights broken around the load area. There are some lights which "sweep" across the floor as the train prepares to launch which haven't been working for ages now. There's also supposed to be a load of swirling lights on the wall as the train leaves the station, as well as an Aerosmith logo that flies across the room. None of which I've seen in within the last few years. Hopefully all of this will be repaired in September though, if the refurb does indeed go ahead.

I must admit, I don't know about the computer screen. I've never really been able to see them closely. But I'll try and see next time I go at the start of September (if it's open, and not in refurb). :)

And now we finally have the dates for the much-needed refurb!

14th - 25th September 2009

I absolutely cannot wait! :mrgreen:  It avoids my trip at the start of September too, which is good. There's also no need to do my little "which effects are not working" checklist when I go now.

I might just have to go back one weekend in October for that "perfect" ride.

NOOOOOOO!  :(

I`m going on the 16th-22nd! and am taking my sister, who besides being really excited about this ride, she was also willing to mind my son whilst me and hubby have a go.  :evil:

Just looked on the dlrp website and it says its only closed on the 30th!  :?:  :?  am confused now  :roll:

You must have checked DLRP Magic. Those dates were only rough and were announced many months ago. The new dates are official:

(//http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/jacoaster/rnrcclosure.jpg)

Unfortunately, this is the risk you take by booking before closure dates are announced. :(

Arrr pooh!  :(

Quote from: "RnRCj"Unfortunately, this is the risk you take by booking before closure dates are announced. :(

They're still so slow at it, not good when you're spending a lot of money on visiting.

But - hurraah! Not only should we have a fresh and properly illuminated RNRC, we'll have a happy RnRCj! :mrgreen:

all i can say is nnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooo, ah well it will be good for our november visit. Snow White was going to be closed, I wish it was still like that, but i guess yo cant have it always your own way.

Quote from: "Anthony"

Quote from: "RnRCj"Unfortunately, this is the risk you take by booking before closure dates are announced. :(

They're still so slow at it, not good when you're spending a lot of money on visiting.

I know. I remember they used to list all the closure dates on the park maps. Back then, that's how we used to plan our trips. These new dates are very late considering many people visiting in September would have already booked.

Quote from: "Anthony"But - hurraah! Not only should we have a fresh and properly illuminated RNRC, we'll have a happy RnRCj! :mrgreen:

A very happy RnRCj. :mrgreen: Oh so long I've been waiting for this refurb!

I'm wondering whether they'll fix some of the really minor effects. Like, in the final brakes tunnel there are supposed to be some dim flickering lights on the ceiling. And in the load area there is supposed to be a unique lighting pattern projected onto the wall as each train leaves the station. I haven't seen either of these for absolutely ages. In fact, I can't actually remember seeing them, but I know they exist because I've seen them in some old videos from when the ride first opened!

Went on this morning and there were more lights than when I went on in Feb. Some of the lights actually looks new. However there are still massive sections of the ride where it's just dark, no lights. There was quite a bit of smoke too.

Well I do hope this refurb does make RNRC better.

When I went a couple of weeks ago, it was it pretty bad shape with only the white flashes working but with no smoke machines.
It was in much better shape when I went in '07 with all lights working...but once again with no smoke machines. :x

I hope they make it better and add smoke effect

I almost forgot!

10 years ago today Rock 'n' Roller Coaster starring Aerosmith opened at Disney MGM Studios!

(//http://www.getsmileyface.com/new/happy_birthday/9.gif)

It scares me to think that if it wasn't for Orlando's RnRC, we wouldn't have our own (even better version) here at WDS. :mrgreen:

Quote from: "RnRCj"It scares me to think that if it wasn't for Orlando's RnRC, we wouldn't have our own (even better version) here at WDS. :mrgreen:

That is scary... imagine the name your parents could have had to call you instead... TVTourj, ArmageddonSFXj, FlyingCarpetsj...!  :mrgreen:

Actually, if it wasn't for Rock I probably wouldn't have returned to DLP half as many times as I have. I probably wouldn't even be a "fan" of Disney parks at all (or should that say "critic"? :P).

Chances are I would never have registered at this forum!

(I bet you all wish RnRC never existed now)

Happy Birthday RnRC! :mrgreen:

I may have only been on WDS' 4 times but those 4 rides have made me a faithful fan.  Move over RnRCj, theres a new kid in town :wink:  :P

Went on this 7 times last week, and one ride had some lights and smoke the rest seemed to be in total darkness, with just a few spots etc, not like the ride it was, but still a good thrill ride, my 2006 ride on this was the best ive ever had, full effects, greatness... hope the refurb goes well and it returns in all its glory

We arrive in Disney on the 14th September  :roll:  :roll:  Oh well, plenty of other things to do and enjoy.

I found out from another forum that the smoke machines often don't work because of the ride operators. Apparently the smoke makes it a bit harder to see the track on the moniters, so they just leave it off.

I'm not sure whether this is really the case, or just an excuse not to put them on. :roll:

So thats why the smoke machines are never on while i'm there. :x  

Peharps they'll put in better cameras that can see through the smoke during the refurb peharps.

What I don't get is how they managed to keep the smoke working for a good 2/3 years when the ride first opened. Either the ops had better eyesight back then, or there's a different reason for them not working.

I'm hoping this isn't the real reason for them not working, otherwise it could mean that they'll still be off after the refurb.

Aerosmith lead singer Steve Tyler was sent to hospital after falling off the stage when performing Love In An Elevator.

:shock:  
Oh god! Hope he's ok soon. :(

they said on the news today that he is ok and he will only miss one performance, so i looks like he hasnt been too hurt

More info about the smoke...

Apparently the smoke machines were replaced a few years ago with new ones (the old ones left an oily residue on things - it was unsafe). The new machines are the ones that make it hard to see the track on the monitors. So that's why they always worked during the first years.

If we're lucky, maintenance might have the sense to replace the smoke machines again during the refurb. We need ones that are not-so visible to the moniters, and don't leave any slippery residue on surfaces.

Fingers crossed.

i love the ride and i hope that its back to its amazing glory in time for my trip in december :D

I've just made this image which compares the loading area from 2002 and the present. It's a bit blurry because I print-screened them from Youtube vids, sorry!

(//http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii33/jacoaster/rnrc-comparison.jpg)

Notice how there are more lights on the back wall in the first image? That's how it should be! :) Hopefully the loading area effects will be repaired as well as the main lightshow in September.

I thought some of you might like to see my Rock 'n' Roller Coaster effects checklist. :lol: I'll be taking this with me on Wednesday to Friday. When I get back, I'll post the list again so we can see which effects are working and which are not.

RnRCj's Rock 'n' Roller Coaster effects checklist

-- light patterns on wall between load/unload as train enters station [  ]
-- light patterns on wall as train leaves station [  ]
-- swirling lights on floor in station [  ]
-- pulsing coloured lights on queue line wall [  ]
-- Tour De Force logo projection [  ]
-- flickering lights on queue line wall as train leaves station [  ]
-- Aerosmith logo flying across the room as train leaves station [  ]
-- swirling lights following train round to launch area [  ]
-- warning lights in lighting rigs as train moves round to launch area [  ]
-- sweeping floor lights as train prepares to launch [  ]
-- flickering queue lights/wall lights as train prepares to launch [  ]
-- LCD countdown screen [  ]
-- warning lights above launch tunnel [  ]
-- chasing lights in launch tunnel [  ]
-- smoke machines [  ]
-- main lightshow: moving lights [  ]
-- main lightshow: still lights [  ]
-- main lightshow: strobes [  ]
-- main lightshow: flashing lights on hoops [  ]
-- wall lights in brake tunnel [  ]
-- flashing light at end of brake tunnel [  ]
-- flickering lights on ceiling of brake tunnel [  ]
-- flickering lights as train enters unload [  ]
-- lights changing colour in Rock Around the Shop [  ]
-- Green/Yellow Soundtracker audio [  ]
-- Pink Soundtracker audio [  ]
-- Multicolour Soundtracker audio [  ]
-- Red Soundtracker audio [  ]
-- Blue Soundtracker audio [  ]
-- flickering lights on billboard [  ]
-- neon lights on billboard [  ]
-- Studio B sounds [  ]
-- lights behind Tour de Force logo [  ]
-- lights behind guitars [  ]

I think that's just about all of them! I considered listing every single light, but decided against doing so. :P

It'll be interesting to see how many of these things work after the refurb. Hopefully all of them!

:-s
Strange, I had a dream last night that someone would put up a RNRC checklist...

I'm back and have my RnRC report ready!

First of all, I'd just like to say................ SMOOOOKE!!! :mrgreen:

Yes, the smoke was working, and it reminded how much it adds to the experience. It really made the lightshow looks great. Late afternoon on Wednesday there was loads of it - perhaps even as much as 2002! It was fantastic! Unfortunately there wasn't as much on Thursday and Friday, but still enough to make the beams of lights really clear.

There was something else that surprised me even more than the smoke though... for the first time in years, EVERY effect in the load, launch, and unload areas were working!!! Loads of lights have been replaced, and it looks fabulous! The swirling lights on the walls, the Aerosmith logo flying across the rooms, the flickering queue lights... everything! It was all synchronised perfectly too. Even the tiny details like how the lights gradually focus in on the Soundtrackers as it waits in the station were working. Okay, there was one effect not working (the warning lights as the train moves round to the launch area), but just one effect being broken does not bother me. I think I may be more pleased about this than the smoke, as I was worried these effects may not be fixed during the refurb!

The main lightshow was actually in a surprisingly good condition, despite a lot of lights still being out. Maybe it was just the smoke that made it look good, but it seemed as if a load of lights have already been replaced. There were still a few "dead" areas where not much was happening (the first mid-course brake run in particular). But in other areas it looked as if every light was working (between the sea serpent roll and first mid-coure brake run). I did notice that the Red and Multicolour lightshows were noticably better than the others though.

One disappointing thing was the state of the queue line. There were lots of things needing a lick of paint. And one of the giant guitar strings in the entrance lobby was snapped and hanging down.

But overall, I was very impressed by RnRC this visit. The completely-functioning load and launch area was a very nice surprise. :)

Here's the checklist I posted earlier, with lots of unexpected greens!

RnRCj's Rock 'n' Roller Coaster effects checklist

-- light patterns on wall between load/unload as train enters station
-- light patterns on wall as train leaves station
-- swirling lights on floor in station
-- pulsing coloured lights on queue line wall
-- Tour De Force logo projection
-- flickering lights on queue line wall as train leaves station
-- Aerosmith logo flying across the room as train leaves station
-- swirling lights following train round to launch area
-- warning lights in lighting rigs as train moves round to launch area (the only effect not working in the load/launch area!)
-- sweeping floor lights as train prepares to launch
-- flickering queue lights/wall lights as train prepares to launch
-- LCD countdown screen
-- warning lights above launch tunnel
-- chasing lights in launch tunnel
-- smoke machines (loads on Wedneday 2nd September, not so much on Thursday and Friday)
-- main lightshow: moving lights (loads of lights were fixed, but about half were still out)
-- main lightshow: still lights
-- main lightshow: strobes
-- main lightshow: flashing lights on hoops
-- wall lights in brake tunnel
-- flashing light at end of brake tunnel (appeared to be on but wasn't flashing)
-- flickering lights on ceiling of brake tunnel
-- flickering lights as train enters unload
-- lights changing colour in Rock Around the Shop
-- Green/Yellow Soundtracker audio (was working but waaay too quiet)
-- Pink Soundtracker audio
-- Multicolour Soundtracker audio (very loud - the harmonica sound effect could be heard at the end!)
-- Red Soundtracker audio
-- Blue Soundtracker audio (music was loud but crackling)
-- flickering lights on billboard
-- neon lights on billboard (a few were broken)
-- Studio B sounds
-- lights behind Tour de Force logo
-- lights behind guitars

great to read quite a bit of the features are fixed on RnRRC just a shame about the ones that are still broken

Have to agree with you RnRCj, it was looking great! We got back yesterday, rode it about 12-15 times in 5 days its just so good every time!

Weird thing that I've never seen before, but Im sure you have, was the launch didnt happen when it got to 1, but about 4 seconds later, a suprise to many!  :lol:

^yes that happens from time to time. I still have no idea what causes it. Just a slight technical failure I presume. I saw it happen a couple of times over the last few days.

This happened to us once, too, and I loved it.I t made the launch much more intense, because you didn't know when you are launched.

Also RnRCj, your websites awesome. Me and my brother were in the queue and heard a song we liked but didn't know the name. I said I think I know where we can find it, went on your site, looked through the area music section and there it was, Music: Response by the Chemical Brothers, so big thumbs up for the website.

^Thanks! I just needed a place to store all my Rock 'n' Roller Coaster information and thought it would be nice create a quick website so others could see it too. :D

I'd really like to include more photos on the site, but unfortunately I haven't taken any good ones myself. I must get a better camera!

Rock 'n' Roller Coaster is officially open again after the 11 day refurbishment! :mrgreen:

If anyone is going soon, be sure to check it out and let me know how it was!

I'm interested to know how many lights were working the main lightshow, how much smoke there was (they need at least three smoke machines working to give the best experience), and if the queue line has been repainted.

On my last ride we were in the rear soundtracker but had Love in An Elevator :D/  and Walk This Way :D/ , which I thought was the music for soundtracker 3 :? . Can anyone explain this?

Quote from: "andrewuk"On my last ride we were in the rear soundtracker but had Love in An Elevator :D/  and Walk This Way :D/ , which I thought was the music for soundtracker 3 :? . Can anyone explain this?

That would be because it's not each car that has it's own soundtrack, it's each train! The whole train is known as a "Soundtracker", not the individual cars. :wink:  There are five Soundtrackers and number 3 does play Love In An Elevator and Walk This Way, as you said.

About the refurbishmEnt now, I've just been reading the RnRC topic over at Disney Central Plaza and rather dissapointingly the first post-refurb reports are not great. They say that the queue line has been painted and the giant guitar neck has been repaired, which is good. BUT the lightshow hasn't seen any significant improvement. They're also saying the onboard music is not of great quality, and the smoke machines aren't working at all! :cry:

But all hope is not lost, because I know for sure that they can replace lights in the main lightshow overnight (they've done it before - they have a special crane for doing so). Maybe the closure was to repaint the queue, and they'll be doing the main lightshow over the next few weeks? I don't know, but I sincerely hope so. It's seems rather odd closing the attraction for 11 days and not even attempting to repair the lightshow.

Then again, maybe the members over there haven't been on it enough times to notice any differences. Hopefully someone with a bit of knowledge of the lightshow will ride it soon and let us know how it was.

:shock:  
Is that what they did in this 'refurb'????

For some reason I had a sneaky feeling that the refurb would be a disappointment...

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Quote from: "andrewuk"On my last ride we were in the rear soundtracker but had Love in An Elevator :D/  and Walk This Way :D/ , which I thought was the music for soundtracker 3 :? . Can anyone explain this?

That would be because it's not each car that has it's own soundtrack, it's each train! The whole train is known as a "Soundtracker", not the individual cars. :wink:  There are five Soundtrackers and number 3 does play Love In An Elevator and Walk This Way, as you said.

Thanks, I never knew that! As those are my two favourite Aerosmith songs I got lucky!

Members at DCP are now saying that the main lightshow has actually been repaired, but there is still a lack of smoke.

What happened to the days when the ride would immediately go 101 if there was no smoke? I mean, it's pointless repairing the lightshow if they're not going to have the smoke to make it look great!

In other news, the control tower has been redone and is now completely enclosed:

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I don't really see what difference it will make, but it looks fine.

The new booth looks great, i'm glad they didn't cover it up completely, i always enjoyed watching the screens etc while waiting.

The closed up booth looks good.  It makes look more like a recording booth which is pretty cool 8)

Grrr i'll be furious if the closure wasn't worthwhile, since I was there from 21st to 25th September!! It was a huge disappointment to miss out on this ride, so if the improvements aren't substantial I'll feel even worse.
I can confirm that when I visited the studios on my trip there were three workers painting outside the ride. Obviously couldn't tell what was going on besides that.

The new booth looks fine. Now it looks more like a recording studio. Nevertheless they should also change the front of the building. I don't like this huge billboard.

The latest reports from Disney Central Plaza say that the lightshow is working properly and some of the smoke machines are now working! :mrgreen:

This video was filmed on 12th November:

[youtube:191zs3e3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izkQbW1tg5U[/youtube:191zs3e3]

Sadly I can now confirm that the lightshow has not been fully repaired. Compared to when I visited a week before the refurbishment, I can count only two more lights working in this video than when I was there. If you pause at certain parts, you can see whole rows of lights not working at all.

However, since the video is slightly blurred and the lights that are working have extremely clear beams, that suggests to me that some of the smoke machines are working!

I was listening to an interview with Merlin ride consultant and theme park god John Wardley yesterday, and he was talking about how difficult it is to keep theme park effects working hundereds of times a day, 7 days a week, months at a time.

This is definitely one of those situations where the equipment just isn't up to the challenge.

I can't see any smoke machines working (unless they don't show up on the video that well).
The light show doesn't look very effected to me either. Mind you, it does look a lot better than what I experienced on my last trip.

Well, there are defenately more lights working than when I went last April... on that trip none of the lights were working except the white flashing lights... :) so for me? HUGE improvement! haha

Quote from: "QTXAdsy"I can't see any smoke machines working (unless they don't show up on the video that well).

If you pause at 48 seconds, you can just about see some smoke (I think).

By chance, I stumbled across this video from 2002 on YouTube:

[youtube:3palf09i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIPorBQxvoM&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div[/youtube:3palf09i]

The bar has well and truly been raised DLP, let's see if you can match it!?! :twisted:  :P

What the ... ? If I click play it it says "Embedding disabled by request. Play on YouTube." If I click that to play on YouTube it says "This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions." :shock:

That video is one of my absolute favourites. It's the only onride video I know of with a fully-functioning lightshow! Pretty much everything is working perfectly there. Just a shame the video quality isn't brilliant.

Also notice how the ride is good 5-10 seconds faster compared to today? I'm not sure why that is, but it might've been because the old oil-based smoke machines made the track slippery!

The lightshow should really be like a sea of colour. There should be lights everywhere! It's hard to find good pictures, but here's a few of the best examples I can find:

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(taken from the "Video Of The Parks" video that I recently watched for the first time in ages)

I went on it on December 6 and it was in a very good condition with A LOT of smoke.
Better than last time I rode it on April.

Just found this video on Youtube - more lights have been repaired!

[youtube:10r5xhqd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqq0GCF-Xcs[/youtube:10r5xhqd]

Check out the awesome spinning lights as it goes throught the first couple of inversions - they haven't worked for ages! Also just after the first brake section there are loads of lights working perfectly (though it's only for a second or two).

I can't really tell if there's any smoke from the video... though I would guess there is at least one, maybe two machines working.

There are still quite a few dead lights. At about 0:53-1:00 in particular there should be a lot more happening. But overall I'm very pleased with the effort they seem to be putting into the attraction recently. Hopefully all the lights that are still dead will be repaired over time.

As i remember the other day RnRCj, the lights in the station for RnRC were amazing. The music and lights were awesome too. Only bad thing is i didnt see much smoke, both rides i could clearly see the roof, is this a sign of limited smoke ?

I wonder if they aren't progressively replacing the effects with LED effects. LEDs are far more durable than traditional halogen spots and scans.

I actually hoped the fire of last year would have resulted in some water damage and the need to replace the light show with some new gear, but that obviously didn't happen ;).

RnRC was in a very good condition two weeks ago. The sound was always working very well and there was most of the time a lot os smoke in the building. The ride was much better than in 2008.

I LOVE this ride.....

Lookin good. Only been on once and never thought I'd do it again. But we have decided we might give it a go in August.
Last time I rode it was Dude looks like a lady - is there a set playlist or one song played for a few months? Cheers

Quote from: "tubbsy"Lookin good. Only been on once and never thought I'd do it again. But we have decided we might give it a go in August.
Last time I rode it was Dude looks like a lady - is there a set playlist or one song played for a few months? Cheers

All five trains have different music and lighting.
    * Soundtracker 1: green/yellow lightshow theme; plays "Back In The Saddle" and "Dude Looks Like A Lady".
    * Soundtracker 2: pink lightshow theme; plays "Young Lust", "F.I.N.E." and "Love In An Elevator".
    * Soundtracker 3: multicolour lightshow theme; plays "Love In An Elevator" and "Walk This Way".
    * Soundtracker 4: red/yellow lightshow theme; plays "Nine Lives".
    * Soundtracker 5: blue lightshow theme; plays "Sweet Emotion (live)".

In my opinion:

Best music is Soundtracker 3.
Best lightshow is Soundtracker 4.

 :mrgreen:

Thanks guys :)

How come a ride op booth was built by the station within the last year? Was it to do with the loud music etc?

I went on this ride the other week, and screamed im gonna die all the way round. I will however ride again :D haha

QuoteHow come a ride op booth was built by the station within the last year? Was it to do with the loud music etc?

They just build an aquarium style glass booth around the equipment that was already there as far as I can remember. Some of the equipment is fake and others is the actual ride control system. I guess it has something to do with safety. Maybe they had a few experiences with people jumping over the fence and tampering with the controls.

The booth was built because of the loud noises. As a guest you only spend a few minutes in that room so it's not a problem for us, but for the CMs being subjected to those noises all day I guess it must affect their hearing. You'll notice a lot of the CMs around the load area also wear earplugs.

Yeah I figured it was to do with that. Just a bit odd that it took them 7 years to decide to do it!

Just been trying to read the RnRC topic on Central Plaza using Google translate. :roll:  Difficult to understand but I think what they're saying is the lightshow is going to be fully replaced with LED lights by the 20th Anniversary.

Great news if so!

Here's a link to the page where they start talking about it:

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Why is that great news?

Quote from: "Martyn"Why is that great news?

You can get about the same effects as with the current lights the ride uses and they're much more durable.(At least from what i've heard.)

LED light shows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWireXf_ ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWireXf_zME&feature=PlayList&p=8CCD40918F37E6EC&index=0&playnext=1%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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Great news if it's true :D

I think the booth is a great id. The amount of noise is insane (at WDW I used to get hearingtests every few weeks to see if the launching of the trains didnt had to big of an impact on my hearing). The other thing is that in WDW we have a booth that was sound proof so you could make phonecalls, radiocalls to other positions and managers (for instance in case of a 101). I could imagine that being hard with the amount of music in the launch area.

just got back and this ride was a bit of a disappointment as the light show was nearly a non event - there were so few lights working we spent nearly the whole ride in the dark :-(

Quote from: "smurfy74"just got back and this ride was a bit of a disappointment as the light show was nearly a non event - there were so few lights working we spent nearly the whole ride in the dark :-(

Maybe it would be better to remove the lights and replace them with a Hollywood scenery like in Florida. That's the reason why I like the WDW version better, although I think that their RnRC isn't as fast as DLRP's. I know it is the same ride, the same track layout and both have been built by the same manufacturer, but the Paris version seems to be faster.

I'd say no to making our RnRC more like the Florida one. The lightshow is so impressive when it does all work it would be a huge shame to lose it for a few boring 2D signs. I do prefer the outside of the Florida version though. :)

I thought our version seemed faster too but apparently they both have the same launch speed... maybe it's the lights that give that impression. I remember when the ride first opened the old smoke machines used to make the track slippery and it cut about 10 seconds off the ride time. :lol: Oh I miss those days!

I also like the light show and the smoke, unfortunately I have only ecperienced RnRC once with all the smoke and light effects working. If they are having so many problems with the effects, they should think about something else. That's the reason why I was suggesting to replace them. Nevertheless RnRC is still my favorite coaster in Paris, with lights or without.

I have never been so petrified in my whole entire life!

Went to the park yesterday on my day off and the was literally no queue so we went on twice in a row :) First time half way down the train and then the second time i dragged my friend to the very last carraige cos its always faster!! That was prob one of the funnest rides id been on as the music in both speakers was working and the entire train was singing DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADYYYYY at the tops of our voices the whole way round, hearing everyone sing and cheer for the entire ride was so much fun....Wish it was like that every time!

Quote from: "alaina82"Went to the park yesterday on my day off and the was literally no queue so we went on twice in a row :) First time half way down the train and then the second time i dragged my friend to the very last carraige cos its always faster!! That was prob one of the funnest rides id been on as the music in both speakers was working and the entire train was singing DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADYYYYY at the tops of our voices the whole way round, hearing everyone sing and cheer for the entire ride was so much fun....Wish it was like that every time!

haha how do you manage to sing haha, the facial expressions I pull on this ride would make it very hard for me to sing, I can only scream and shout rather rude words  :oops:   :lol:

Even though I love RNRC in florida (for obvious reasons) more than the Paris version... If the full light show and smoke its working it is an amazing one of a kind experience...

I love this ride simply because even when the queue is short and fastrack are at there most the queue moves beautifuly fast and then of course once inside the building the theming takes your mind off queueing!
I did notice last time I visited that it broke down many times and all the times it was open the music did not play the music , I feel without the music the ride is wasted!

When I was at RNRC the preshow 'Studio C' wasnt a real show but more a walktrough... in Orlando we did that on very unique occasions... what about Paris? It works way better as pre-show, to get your time of waiting, than as a walktrough...

Another great video by Disneyland Paris' YouTube channel! :D
Although, I'm sure I've seen some of the footage before on an old "behind the scenes" documentary about WDS/DLP  :P

[youtube:2jy7a8z3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwRdmzjOlQ[/youtube:2jy7a8z3]

I feel like a bit of an idiot dragging this post back up.. But hey!

Yeah, the whole glass op booth is to prevent 'Repetitive Hearing Strain' (it's something we look at in detail at University, obviously on show working, especially long term on the same run, your prone to it)

The replacing of the normal intelligent lights with LED based sources has some great points for fans of the attraction (obviously, me being a theatre lampie, yes I adore it), it would mean we are going to have less and less lighting 'down time' so it's more likely that all of the lights will be working in the attraction at any one time. One down side is, it will involve a lot of attraction downtime to do it, as it would involve stripping out all of the conventional lighting fixtures (which will cost Disney alot to do initially, but when you are paying £200/£300 per moving light lamp to replace it, by switching to LED it obviously eliminates the need for constant lamp changing and lowers attraction running costs due to lower power consumption yada yada..) and it would also involve swapping out all of the various gobos (the shapes you see within all of the lights) to ensure the look of the overall 'show' for each soundtracker is the same as it is now. Overall, it would prove a lengthy process, but after all of the lights within the attraction running pretty much solidly since 2002, they are going to be in need of a good check up. Also, LED's look great in haze/smoke!

They currently use haze within the attraction, so you can see the beams of light, this is simply a very thin version of smoke, which you cannot see without light passing through it. The current lack of it could be any number of things, from a machine being down, a machine running out of fluid and maintenance failing to fill it up, through to a fault with the signal cable (DMX, the same stuff the lights run on) which tells the haze machine to power on. I do remember the days when they used to use smoke/low fog.. But alas :(

On a side note, have any of you guys ever experienced a 'failed' launch? It happened to me last week, the launch sequence happened as normal, the soundtracker locked into the launch system, the countdown ran as normal, as we simply stood still. The soundtrack ran, which was quickly stopped. This was then accompanied by a cast member slowly edging their way down the coaster side of the line you enter after the 'Studio C' preshow and looking at the front of the train (presumably to check if the soundtracker was engaged into the launch system) then after a minute or so waiting, we fired without warning and the soundtracker went around the track in silence. It was quite cool to see the ride running without the music, as the lighting was still running as it should have done.

Thanks for that post! For me as a fan of the attraction that was very interesting to read. :D

I think I read somewhere that the lights would replaced overnight over a period of two years so there will be no need for significant downtime. Not sure how true that is but it would make sense.

Hopefully these changes will bring the attraction back to its originally quality. The lightshow and smoke used to created a really fantastic effect that was awesome to see.

As for the failed launch - I think it happens quite a lot. Not sure what causes it but it happened to me three times in a row once. :lol: I haven't ever seen Cast Member walk round to check the launch system though. Usually the train is delayed by a few seconds and then continues to launch. Sometimes if the Soundtracker won't move at all they have to do a miniature evacuation and let the passengers out from the cars.

Quote from: "RnRCj"Thanks for that post! For me as a fan of the attraction that was very interesting to read. :D

I think I read somewhere that the lights would replaced overnight over a period of two years so there will be no need for significant downtime. Not sure how true that is but it would make sense.

Hopefully these changes will bring the attraction back to its originally quality. The lightshow and smoke used to created a really fantastic effect that was awesome to see.

As for the failed launch - I think it happens quite a lot. Not sure what causes it but it happened to me three times in a row once. :lol: I haven't ever seen Cast Member walk round to check the launch system though. Usually the train is delayed by a few seconds and then continues to launch. Sometimes if the Soundtracker won't move at all they have to do a miniature evacuation and let the passengers out from the cars.

Thats all Good! It's nice to know i'm not the only person who adores  this attraction!

Seeing as smoke/haze machines have come on so much since 2002, so there is hope! I would be a rather happy chap if they bought it back to it's originally glory. If it does go-ahead, I can imagine how refreshed and revitalised the attraction could be if it was done well, and knowing Disney, it will be.

Three failed launches in a row? Now that would just worry the hell out me.

QuoteI feel like a bit of an idiot dragging this post back up.. But hey!

Dont! This is like the official topic for it, so it pretty much gets brought up again when anything changes/happens with it.

QuoteYeah, the whole glass op booth is to prevent 'Repetitive Hearing Strain'

Yeah, I get that. I just find it odd that it took them 8 years to realise.

Thanks for that post, always love to hear more about my favourite ride! When I went last week the most common soundtracker used was Sweet Emotion. We got Young Lust a couple of times and the Walk This Way/Love In A Rollercoaster medley. The music seemed to be ending earlier and earlier though. The only thing that bugs me is they have the whole pre-show with Tyler going on about "Going Down" and they play so little of Love In An Elevator and don't even have the going down line, which would work really well!

And what happened to "Love In A Rollercoaster" I'm sure I read that the words were originally altered for the attraction, but it was definitely the original version, did someone lose the alternative version?  :lol:

Went to WDS yesterday and I must say the lightshow was working amazing! There was so much smoke, you could really see like ''clouds'' of it on some places. The lightshow was working great as well, the whole ride building was just full of lights. I never saw that many lights really... Very close to the onride-videos I saw from when the ride just opened. You could even see the ''patterns'' some of the lights are projecting. It was far from a ''roller coaster in the dark'', and that's the way it should be!

The other thing I noticed is that they were running ''just'' two trains, which I had never seen before. The red soundtracker was playing Nine Lives again, after playing Sweet Emotion for a few months. The multicolor soundtracker's audio was working pretty bad, except for rows 9 and 10, where for some reason the audio was really loud. Later they also added the blue soundtracker for about an hour, which was, while standing in the loading station, just -shaking- by bass sound the speakers(/subwoofers?) were making. I never heard onboard-audio that loud before...

Overall it was a great experience and I hope they will keep the lightshow and especially the smoke machines working this good!  :)

They do run two trains quite often, especially when it is quiet like it has been this week.

One thing though, where' the Coach/Bus gone? And why?

I visted Disneyland Paris for the first time last Sunday (6th), I was really looking forward to the Rock 'n' Rollercoaster as I'm a massive Aerosmith fan - I was really disappointed. As mentioned before the light show didn't seem as impressive as I expected, and we went round with no music whatsoever. The coaster itself is a great ride, but without the music it was just a bizarre experience. After queuing for over an hour to board the ride I couldn't help but feel a little short-changed - what's a theme coaster without the theme after all.

^ That is a very valid point you have. Space Mountain is one of my all time favourite coasters, but without the music, its pretty naff, and I'd imagine this would be 100 times worse with RnRC.

DLRPToday tweeted 4 hours ago:

QuoteBreaking news! Rock n Roller Coaster in Paris to get an all-new light show and ultra reliable fog machines!

This information possibly comes from the webmasters meeting at DLP Today. Shame its not announcing a new facade, but hey - all-new light show? Exciting stuff.

I agree, I'd rather see a new exterior than interior, oh-well, upgrades are welcome too.

Wonderful news! :D After all these years with the the lightshow working very bad most of the time I got the feeling that they didn't care about it at all.
Good to hear they are finally doing something about it!

Quote from: "Columbiad"DLRPToday tweeted 4 hours ago:

QuoteBreaking news! Rock n Roller Coaster in Paris to get an all-new light show and ultra reliable fog machines!

This information possibly comes from the webmasters meeting at DLP Today. Shame its not announcing a new facade, but hey - all-new light show? Exciting stuff.

That is awesome.. Nice to see that Disney is finally putting some money into an attraction which does badly need it. I'm guessing it will be branded as a 're-launch/refresh' for the anniversary..

Sorry for dragging the topic up but has anyone ridden RNRC since last week's refurbishment? I'm really interested to hear if they did anything to the lightshow :).

According to InsideDLParis the new lightshow is working:

New lightshows for RNRC, one of the changes is that the tunnels are lit up by multicoloured lights at all times!

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I don't know about the new light show, but Linda Lewis has written new music for the attraction:

[youtube:o45m4j3h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEMHgAZWDr0[/youtube:o45m4j3h]

Hmm, not sure if I like the ''new'' launch tunnel. I think being launched into that dark tunnel really added something...
Still interested in how the main lightshow turned out, though...

^ I agree. I liked it being dark, and I liked how the lights then followed the train as it launched.

Here's a video of the new lights in action. They do actually still follow the train down the tunnel, but I'm not so sure the programming is as slick as before:

[youtube:b0no34qj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSCaZXRN6g[/youtube:b0no34qj]

the new light show was working when I rode and it was great. My wife however now refuses to ride RNRC again though. the soundtrack has not worked for her in about 4 years.

The lights in the launch tunnel are not actually 'new' right? They're just turned on all the time now. Also, during the video above I don't see any new lights during the ride itself except maybe a few next to the cobra roll. Are they just not working in that video or something? Or is there no actual new lightshow during the ride yet?

^ I think the majority of it was just replacing all the current lights with LED bulbs.

Now I've seen the launch lights, I'm not as agains't it as I was, though it seems a bit crap how they just randomly turn off as the train 1/3 down the track. They should have tied them in with the countdown etc, so they start flashing quickly, or just something better that what it is.

The glowing is nice (apart from showing off the industrial tunnel), but the lights should flicker, or go mad, just to help build the tension.

^ What lights did they replace then? I hardly see any lights working during the ride, and certainly not more than before the rehab...
And I agree they should have done more with the lights in the launch tunnel, but maybe it's only a temporary thing...

I'm sorry, but that launch tunnel lighting state is dire!

By the looks of it, those are the same LED units that were originally in the launch tunnel (the units that are used in the brake run and launch tunnel were and still are both LED sources, but potentially may have been changed out or maintained). That appears to be a reprogamming of the lighting state used within the station, then when the train is half way down the tunnel the 'old' state for the launch kicks in. Seeing the tunnel in darkness and light up when a train was launched built up the tension a little for me, as you were never sure what was a ahead of you. Now, the tunnel is 'given away' prior to launch, which spoils it.

However, when some LED units loose DMX/Signal from the control console/computer, they default to colour changing, so it could very well be that some changes have been made in the showfiles for the launch tunnel lighting state, which mean the launch tunnel lights are loosing signal when a train isn't launching. I'm off to DLRP in two weeks, so I'll be sure to find out whats going on!

I just hope this isn't a sign of the attractions already amazing light show being messed with. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

I was there last week and was not impressed with the state of the lightshow. There were only very few colored lights in the main hall during the whole ride, and those that were there didn't move. As "replacement" for the missing lights they put some moving bright white spots into the hall, so that you could see much more of the interior as usual. It was interesting to see the track layout, but not exciting at all. So I think - and sincerely hope - that this is because they are currently in the progress of replacing all the lights and that is why they are disabled. If this were the new lightshow it would be the lamest thing ever. Also there was zero smoke. About the launch tunnel lights: I agree, they should return to the old version.

On the bright side: the sound in our soundtracker was really, really loud and very clear :-)

I got back from the magic on Friday.. and what can I say about said lightshow upgrade..

-It was very clear it was taking place, throughout the week I was there, the lighting elements within the ride (moving lights) were disappearing (the physical light output, not the fixtures themselves)..

-The launch tunnel lights are back as they were (following the front of the soundtracker down the tunnel itself to the strobes as you enter the loop to blind you)

- One of the two beacon lights (police style lamps, but in orange) above the launch tunnel entrance had blown at the start of the week, by wednesday, it had been replaced, showing that lighting maintenance was clearly taking place.

- Some of the strobe and LED elements within the attraction (the strobes within the piece of truss as you leave the second loop and the LED rings on the circular truss you shoot through) worked at the start of the week and didn't towards the end, again showing progress.

BUT:

- A huge amount of the moving lights were showing 'LAMP' on the information display on the fixtures, this means that Disney has simply not bothered to replace the lamps once they have blown previously. Obviously, this is understandable from a costing point of view (no point in re-lamping a fixture which is going to be removed or altered), but this clearly shows that progress is slow and the attraction will remain in a 'diminished' state for a decent length of time.

- The last time I rode the attraction before I left, the opening section was near enough in darkness, a couple of truss sections were uplit from inside when the soundtracker was nearby, however, this either happened early or late most of the time, or sometimes not at all! If I remember rightly, within the breaking section, within the ride itself (not the break run), where there is the sets of two strobes that blind you, all of the moving lights said 'LAMP', showing this section has yet to be touched. If I remember rightly, I counted something along the lines of around twenty intelligent lights working within the ride itself, with no smoke/haze, so it was pretty dark and pretty poor!

This project is obviously on going and changes on a daily basis.. but from what I could see, progress was happening, but was very very slow indeed!

Quote from: "Nicolai"On the bright side: the sound in our soundtracker was really, really loud and very clear :-)

And yes, this proved exactly the same for me, every time I rode. So it made up for the lack of lighting!

I was there on the 13th and found there to be a lack of lighting for the majority of the ride. The launch had gone back to normal but the countdown screen was off, I had no audio but I did have a tiny bit of haze! Most of the lights that did work were towards the end of the ride and overall it seemed bright inside but couldn't quite tell why (didn't see anything like white spots like you've mentioned Nicolai).

Shame it is such a slow process but I look forward to seeing it once finished. Next time I'm at the resort is (hopefully) October so hopefully there is a substantial improvement by then.

are there any news about the current state of rock n roller coaster? anyone rode it lately?

I haven't rode it recently but back mid-July we rode it everyday and most times there were next to no lights and several times we had no music. So disappointing.

Rode it today (only once, Soundtracker 1) and found it to be very disappointing. During the wHole ride I counted ~10 spots in the same three colors. There was some fog, but without any light show it didn't really make any difference. One can only hope this is a sign of the full replacement of the light show. Launch and End Tunnel lights were working and like they used to be.

Well, it's almost a year since anyone's touched this thread, but all the lights and stuff look pretty good now (3-5 Aug). I can't remember what they were like before, as I last rode it in 2004... Only bad thing was the soundtrack kept breaking. I think we went on it 8-10 times, one time there was no music, and three times it broke half way through.