now it is official confirmed, they wanna make the fourth movie of pirates of the caribbean!!
Quote"the ending of Pirates 3, the fountain of youth story might not be the only story they might used the next pirate's film. The fountain story could used in another form to introduce the story for Pirates 4... the next film might be a departure from the same formula of the last three movies as well, meaning that Jerry Bruckheimer could be planning to enter the realm of Science Fiction this time around and it could be the heart of a new trilogy with Jack Sparrow and his crew of misfits. Some of the brainstorming going around involves some Jules Verne type of scenarios involving some pretty big flying machines, a man who wants to rule more than just the ocean, a encounter with the most famous and dangerous pirate of all, a race to get to a lost world (Hint, Hint) and Jack and his crew going to where no pirate has gone before (No, its not space but Disney had made animated movie about this place before with Michel J Fox voicing one of the characters)."
Sounds interesting but does anyone eles think that it won't be as big as the previous POTCs. I don't know why just i have a feeling, not that it won't be any good, that it won't be as popular.
I think they should stop with the trilogy they have !
Quote from: "Owain"I think they should stop with the trilogy they have !
Yes me too. I love POTC, but you know even with 3 movies I had the thought that it got worse and worse. The first one was awesome, the 2nd great, the 3rd just only good, so the 4th could only be ok. They really should stop, otherwise it's getting boring.
please NOOO!, not a 4th movie, the 3rd one was already a big dissapointment for me, I gotta say tho Atlantis does sound cool to do a movie with
whats the source by the way?
But should be intresting, i don't know how they can carry it on though.
the source i dont know, a friend of me give me the link, i have to ask her again...
hmm i dont know i feel a 4th movie will be great becaus the 3rd one have a stupid end...
I LOVE potc but i do feel a 4th movie could spoil the trilogy. (although i have to confess i would like to see it). :lol:
I am a huge fan of the Pirates movies but it would have been ok with me if it ended with At World's End. Although maybe the 4th one will be extremely awesome :D
Quotenow it is official confirmed, they wanna make the fourth movie of pirates of the caribbean!!
Wait a minute, did I miss something? :? Who and when was POTC 4 confirmed?
Quote from: "raptor1982"Quotenow it is official confirmed, they wanna make the fourth movie of pirates of the caribbean!!
Wait a minute, did I miss something? :? Who and when was POTC 4 confirmed?
I agree, i read that the kiera knigtley has quit on POTC because she wants a change.
@raptor1982
a frind give me an link on a german site and they stand it is official that they wanna make the 4th potc movie...
i don´t know is it right or not but it sounds like it is right...
From wiki;
QuoteIn February 2007, after filming was completed on Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, screenwriter Terry Rossio said he and Ted Elliott may try to write a screenplay, though "It's like the fourth Indiana Jones picture — there are forces in play to make it happen, and forces in play to make it not happen."[1] Director Gore Verbinski is aware that Walt Disney Pictures would like to keep the franchise going, but regarding his involvement, feels, "The big danger is diminishing the brand... it would have to be a tale worthy of telling."[2] At a recent book signing, Berkeley Breathed, who is working with Verbinski on a film, suggested that "[Verbinski] is sick of pirates" and would prefer not to do another.[3]
Producer Jerry Bruckheimer has indicated interest in a spin-off,[4] but was exhausted by the trilogy's production.[5] Disney has reportedly made tentative plans to shoot a fourth film in 2009.[6]
Johnny Depp has stated that he would love to play Jack Sparrow for another trilogy "if they had a good script."[7] Keira Knightley has stated that she does not wish to continue playing her character of Elizabeth Swann as she wants to do different projects.[8]
Quote from: "Disneyana"Quote from: "Owain"I think they should stop with the trilogy they have !
Yes me too. I love POTC, but you know even with 3 movies I had the thought that it got worse and worse. The first one was awesome, the 2nd great, the 3rd just only good, so the 4th could only be ok. They really should stop, otherwise it's getting boring.
Totally agree with you, Owain and Disneyana! That's totally my opinion and they should reckon that they should not exaggerate...
I don't think Keira will do a fourth, since she got such good reviews for Atonement, she'll probably want more "serious" roles. And perfume ads. :wink:
Since the Elizabeth/Will story wrapped at the end of At World's End, it seems to me like it will probably all depend on whether Johnny wants to return with a new surrounding cast...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000136/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000136/)
He seems to be quite busy up until 2009/2010. Also looks like he's going back to the dark films after his Willy Wonka phase.
I think it would be nice to have a P4 but will this then mean 5 +6? i meen thers barely any films that stop at a forth - most continue to 6
To be fair, most films stop when they stop being profitable.
Where do you get 6 from? The only series which had 6 films was Star Wars, and that was always envisioned as a 6 or 9 film series, depending on which of George Lucas' interviews you believe.
In his early interviews, during the original trilogy, he often talked about episodes 7, 8 and 9 - but there was never really a story attached to them.
In more recent interviews, he's always said that 7, 8 and 9 was just an idea that he had to bring everyone back when they were older, but it was only ever really had a plot for 6 movies.
I think Pirates would be greatly improved by losing Keira Knightly. She was good in the first 2 but there was far too much of her and nowhere near enough Jack in the last one which I actually found boring in parts having previously been a HUGE pirates fan. A lot of it seemed to have no point to it.
I presume she had such a huge part to keep the men happy but DH actually fell asleep in the cinema then couldn't be bothered to stay to watch the end when he woke up.
If they did do a 4th POTC I really wouldn't miss Kiera Knightly, infact, the film would benefit from her leaving.
I'd also heard rumours that Orlando Bloom wasn't going to agree to number 4.
I'm unsure what to expect of number 4.
I'm not expecting a great deal, mainly because CJS role in the plot seems to get smaller and smaller with each film...also there would probably be a MASSIVE amount of hype over nothing...like the whole Kieth Richards thing, who ended up with a whole 5 minutes of screen time.
hmmm.
Number 3 was dissapointing. :?
I loved the series, but three was a major let down. Its time to go out on a high without spoiling the brand...
Quote from: "penfold12"I loved the series, but three was a major let down. Its time to go out on a high without spoiling the brand...
If three was a major let down, wouldn't they be going out on a low?
:?
Creative low, Box office high. It was the highest box office take world wide for 2007. But surely if a 4th was made so soon, then that box office take would not be so good after the creative mess that was the 3rd film....
I was thinkingthe other night would besides the normal release a Imax 3D release also work? i thought it would be really cool if done right, anyone else think it might work?
There's an article on the BBC News site about future Disney projects, which leads with the loud headline "Fourth Pirates 'in development'" but then fails to really tell any more except "If realised, Johnny Depp will reprise his role as Captain Jack Sparrow".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7635376.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7635376.stm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Quote from: "Anthony"There's an article on the BBC News site about future Disney projects, which leads with the loud headline "Fourth Pirates 'in development'" but then fails to really tell any more except "If realised, Johnny Depp will reprise his role as Captain Jack Sparrow".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7635376.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7635376.stm%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I find the BBC site awful for news, nothing on IMDB yet so i wouldn't get any hopes up :P
Well, they were talking about it this morning on Sky News.... And saying that Johnny Depp was dressed up as Captain Jack, with the Lone Ranger mask, during the Disney Studios Showcase.... And they said was that Depp had agreed with Disney to do a 4th POTC movie. So really, unless something goes very wrong, all we need now is a release date!
It was an article on totalfilm.com too. Basically Disney held a press conference with Jonny Depp and announced he will be in the 4th film, they haven't announced a breif plot or anything like that but fingers crossed its good.
Pirates of the Caribbean made it to #371 in that Empire magazine Top 500 films of all time, and they pretty much summed up the sequels:
"Remember when the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise wasn't misguidedly obsessed with character depth and darkness, and was just plain old fun?"
They were definitely quite misguided in turning it into a kind of all-or-nothing, everyone-could-die trilogy. The best parts of the sequels for me were Cannibal Island (2), the Wheel of Fortune (2) and Jack's weird time in Davy Jones' Locker (3). The second half of At World's End is spectacular but incredibly, painfully drawn-out and over-emotional.
I've still not forgiven them for killing both Elizabeth's dad and Norrington. Not to mention the little boy pirate. I don't watch films like Pirates of the Caribbean for tragedy like that.
The first was good, the second started to get a bit weird, and I wasn't really fond of the third at all...
Whatever happened to good old fashioned sword fights? Now its all ghosts and curses...
Whats next, vampires joining in?
Some bits were quite funny though! a few of my favourite lines...
"You may throw my hat... Now go and get it!"
"Look! *shoots cage* An undead monkey!"
As good as i thought POTC 1, 2 and 3 we're i would suggest Disney and Bruckheimer to focus on new movies and franchises like Prince of Persia instead of making sequel after sequel.
I'd like to see how this forth film turns out.
Johnny Depp has confirmed to be returning as Captain Jack for a forth film E new just stated, but no mention of any other characters returning.
I hope that some do return...won't be the same with out them, like Gibs and maybe even Barbossa.
I'm trying not to get too excited about this rumour, because there's a 99.9999% chance it'll never happen...
QuoteScoop: Tim Burton Might Direct Pirates 4
Big, big news on the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie, courtesy of one of our most reliable tipsters. Our proven informant (who we're forced to keep anonymous) wants you to know the following info should be taken with a "grain of salt and a dose of pepper," things are still in motion, but here goes anyway. Wondering how they're going to make a whole Pirates movie with just Jack Sparrow? Or who else might return? Read on!
Most excitingly, there are talks of Captain Jack having a brother in the next movie, possibly to be played by Sacha Baron Cohen (perfect!) or Russell Brand (even more perfect!) Of course, that's probably just fantasy casting, but why would either of those comedians turn the role down? As we've mentioned before, the new movie might kick off a trilogy, which would revolve around Captain Jack's search for the Fountain of Youth.
Geoffrey Rush and director Gore Verbinski are apparently both planning to return, but... and this is a big maybe... Tim Burton might direct instead. Tim Burton! If there is a single director who could make people excited for a fourth Pirates movie, it has to be Burton. He's done so many amazing movies with Depp already, and might have the ability to make the new franchise as fresh and exciting as it was when the first movie came out. After all, Tim Burton is already making a movie for Disney, and if Alice in Wonderland is going well, you can see how they'd want to hang on to him
Again, this information is all up in the air, and could change at any moment. But still, this is the best news we've heard about the next Pirates movie, and pretty much the magic bullet it'll take to make most of us care. Russell Brand, get on the phone with your agent, and make this happen!
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Ti ... 10465.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Tim-Burton-Might-Direct-Pirates-4-10465.html%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
...but just imagine it - the world of Pirates of the Caribbean, directed by Tim Burton! :shock: :shock:
Whoa :shock: . That would be incredible. Not that I think it will really happen (really sounds too good to be true) but Captain Jack AND Tim Burton?? Could it get any better than that??
I highly doubt any of those rumors are true but if they are, omg, this film would be covered in awesomeness.
Quote from: "never2old"Whoa :shock: . That would be incredible. Not that I think it will really happen (really sounds too good to be true) but Captain Jack AND Tim Burton?? Could it get any better than that??
It does Sound too good to be true... And I would love it if it did work out with that..
BUT:
Go Over all recent Depp/Burton Films there's an Actress who Always gets a role (She is Connected to Mr Burton via more ways than one) Helena Bonham Carter...
Lets Look not going to far back:
Corpse Bride (2005):
Depp as Leading Man, Carter as Leading Lady... Brain Child Of Burton
Charlie & Chocolate Factory (2005):
Depp as leading man, Carter as Mrs Bucket... Brain of Burton (Hands of Dahl)
Sweeny Todd (2007):
Depp as leading Male Carter leading lady... Brain of Burton (Hands of Sondhiem)
Alice In Wonderland:
Depp As Hatter, Cater Rumoured as Red Queen... Brain of Burton (Hands of Carroll)
Not that I don't like her... I just don't see what she could bring to the PotC table that Tia Dalma or Swann brought to it for the first 3... and hopefully HPs: 7 & 8 will tie her up!
Radio Energy (German radio station) reports that there will be a Zac next to Jack. Zac Efron now in Cinema at HM III has signed a contract with Disney.
:arrow: //http://www.energy.de/portal/news/2008-10/zacefronalspirat/
Pirate of the Caribbean 4 starts shooting on Spring 2010.Quote"Comic-Con is in full swing at this point, and ComingSoon.net got a surprise interview with Disney's Head of Production Oren Aviv where we talked about the genesis of some of the projects they were showing at the con, though we did have a lot of questions about future Disney plans as well. One of the movies that's still on the forefront of everyone's mind is the fourth installment of "Pirates of the Caribbean." Producer Jerry Bruckheimer told us a few weeks back that they were working on a script, but Aviv and Disney are definitely on board as we learned when we discovered that they have plans to be rolling film on the movie as early as next year.
"We're going to shoot 'Pirates 4' in April and May of next year," Aviv told us during our interview. "We are going to release it hopefully in 2011 is the plan." He said that this time they would only be doing one movie this time that would "hopefully be the first of another trilogy."
"It's important to get the story right and it's important to me to scale it down, because we can't get bigger," Aviv admitted. "The movies have subsequently gotten bigger and bigger and very complicated and they were satisfying on so many levels obviously, but I want to kind of reboot the whole thing and bring it down to its core, its essence, just characters." He agreed that there is a lot of Captain Jack Sparrow's back story that we haven't seen yet without confirming or denying that we might see some of that in the fourth movie. Still no word on whether Gore Verbinski might come back for the fourth movie."
It seems we are a go, However without Gore Verbinski it may be a little different from previous...
However... Cpt Jack backstory seems good, Although the mystery and confusion about his existance is what make him what he is...
I think i will wait and see... ;)
Hmm, they must be very happy with the script so far then if they already have April/May down for filming.
Depp is going to be a busy actor next year as he also confirmed at Comic con that he will be filming next year for Burton's next film.
I love the sound of them scaling it down etc, a lot of peeps don't like the sequels because they were too big and confusing. Not sure I like the sound of a second trilogy though. It would also be interesting to see who would direct if Gore doesn't return.
The "second trilogy" comment worries me too. I'd much prefer it if they approached Pirates more like the current Batman and Spider-Man films, just taking and making each as it comes but then really making it BIG.
These forced trilogies have surely been shown to bore an audience.
Can't wait for POTC4 though, especially if it's more of a singular Captain Jack adventure film. Let the guessing of the lengthy sub-title begin!!
Quote from: "Anthony"Can't wait for POTC4 though, especially if it's more of a singular Captain Jack adventure film. Let the guessing of the lengthy sub-title begin!!
How about if they take a leaf out of the Harry Potter Franchaise?
POTC4 : Johnny Depp and the Big Fat Paycheck !!!
Say NO to Quadrilogies, unless they're directed by Sam Raimi
(N.B. In case there are any English scholars in this Forum, I am fully aware that the correct term for a grouping of 4 films is not a Quadrilogy. If I could remember what the correct term was, instead of the made-up word first used for the Alien boxset, then I would use it. If you happen to know what the word is I am searching for and feel compelled to belittle me by telling me, then by all means keep it to your self. Thank you :wink: )
Gore Verbinski stepped out of the captain's cabin for Disney's fourth Pirates of the Cariebbean film, but Variety's BFDealMemo blog suggests the studio may have a new helmer in Rob Marshall. Unless things break down at the last moment, Marshall will be steering the pirate vehicle's next installment. Marshall has three big features under his belt: Chicago, Memoirs of a Geisha and Nine, to be released later this year.
Variety reports that Disney has already started to cast some of the new characters that'll appear in this installment, so if Marshall's deal goes through we should hear many more details about the film quite soon.
That's a random choice of director. Will be interesting to see how this one develops.
Yeah but Gore Verbinski was hardly a straight forward choice to direct a Disney inspired action film that was being produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Gore's previous films were The Weather Man with Nic Cage, and the american remake of J-Horror hit The Ring
Lol, very true.
The title of the 4th film has been announced at D23 Expo!
It will be called Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides.
Sounds intriguing, I want to know more! Depp says he is also unconfirmed to making a return to the franchise but he would be up for it if he is asked to!
They have also stated the film is to be released in 2011 (better get the topic title changed :P)
Source: Hitflix.com (//http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-9-11-and-the-title-of-the-new-pirates-of-the-carribean-movie-is)
Quote from: "peep"The title of the 4th film has been announced at D23 Expo!
It will be called Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides.
Sounds intriguing, I want to know more! Depp says he is also unconfirmed to making a return to the franchise but he would be up for it if he is asked to!
They have also stated the film is to be released in 2011 (better get the topic title changed :P)
Source: Hitflix.com (//http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-9-11-and-the-title-of-the-new-pirates-of-the-carribean-movie-is)
A sequel without Depp would be a flop, he is a major pull to the film, well Captain Jack Sparrow is really! I had heard rumours ages ago of Zac Efron being considered but I really hope that was just a very, very bad rumour! It will be werid not having Will Turner and Elizabeth swann in the next film, lets hope they cast well!
roll on 2011 :D/
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Cool! I can't wait to hear more info about this movie soon! :D
good news, great to hear Johnny Depp is back and we have now a release date with 2011
The only direction i can see this movie going is down hill...
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End were poor, AWE being the poorest, yet Black Pearl was a masterpiece. Don't know about you but to me it seems the series is on a downward spiral, and On Stranger Tides (which i believe is an awful name) will bring POTC down even more.
So there won't be Will or Elizabeth, that's good, i got sick of them by the end of Pirates 3 anyway. That leaves Jack Sparrow and Barbosa, which are my two favourite POTC characters, which is good but if there's not a good story to go with them then it'll be like a train wreck. Also if Zac Efron appears in this movie i'd be tempted to chain myself to the Walt Disney Pictures Headquarters. Nothing and i mean nothing would make me want him to be in POTC4 (not even if they killed him off in the first 5 seconds).
So right now i'm not looking forward to this movie, and unless they can bring back the magic of Black Pearl it won't change. Also, i'm i the only one whose getting a little tiny bit fed up of Johnny Depp?...
ooo sounds good to me gunna have to watch 2 and 3 now iv only seen the first one :D
Quote from: "-breeno-"Also, i'm i the only one whose getting a little tiny bit fed up of Johnny Depp?...
Yes... Just kidding ;)
He does seem to be in an awful lot of films recently, so I can see why some people might feel he's a bit overexposed. However, I think he's great, so I'm not complaining!
I'm actually excited about this, because I think there's a high possibility that with less of the main characters and a new director, they could go back to a straight-forward pirate story, just like Black Pearl. I think the charm of the first movie was that it was a simple plot - well, certainly in comparison to the other two :wink: - and if they can go back to this, perhaps simply focusing on a Jack Sparrow adventure, they could certainly have another great hit at hand.
Also, there's no way I could ever get bored of Johnny Depp :]
Did no one actually read what I posted? Johnny Depp is NOT confirmed to be in the fourth film. Depp would like to return but so far hasn't been approached regarding the film.
Quote from: "peep"Did no one actually read what I posted? Johnny Depp is NOT confirmed to be in the fourth film. Depp would like to return but so far hasn't been approached regarding the film.
But then again it'd be pretty stupid to have him show up in full costume and character to announce the film, and then for him not to actually be in it :roll:
There's quite an interesting article on ComingSoon.net, which looks at what the film could be about, if speculation over it being based on a novel (called 'On Stranger Tides' oddly enough :wink: ) are true.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=59039 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=59039)
Will Jack and Barbossa be up against Blackbeard?!? :wink:
Quote from: "The Butlin Boy"But then again it'd be pretty stupid to have him show up in full costume and character to announce the film, and then for him not to actually be in it :roll:
I suppose you're right. :D
Cinematical had a similar article to the Comingsoon one. The story sounds interesting, especially the part about Blackbeard. Also notice the story involves someone called Jack and a search for the Fountain of youth :wink: That story has been rumoured for so long I'm surprised no one discovered this book sooner.
if deep was not in the film would that mean it would be an all new cast?
High-res link:
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QuoteAt the D23 Disney Fan Expo, Walt Disney Studios unveiled the logo/title for the fourth film in the Pirates of the Caribbean series: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. No plot details have been revealed. What might "On Stranger Tides" mean?
The fourth installment of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise is gearing up to begin shooting around April or May 2010 for a tenative 2011 release. Disney has previously said that the plan is for Pirates 4 to "hopefully be the first of another trilogy," which would be shot by itself, and not back-to-back like the previous Pirates sequels. No word on who will direct the new film. Series helmer Gore Verbinski was originally attached to another Pirates film, but left to direct a big screen adaptation of the video game Bioshock. But as you probably know by now, Bioshock got passed to another filmmaker.
No source available
Still no news on cast/storyline.
Breeno: I do agree that the films went on a downward slip after the first one! I thought the 3rd was so complicated and at times didn't seem to even make sense! I remember leaving the film thinking...what on earth just happened in that movie! :? ?
I am hoping they can pull it back with the 4th Movie! I just don't think POTC would be anything without Jack Sparrow and if he wasn't in it I don't think I would be interested in watching it. It would be like watching a toy story movie without woody, the muppets with kermit and miss piggy and lilo and stitch without stitch! :P
really hope Johnny Depp is in this movie again. Without him, i'm more sceptic, but will watch it anyway.
Avast my Hearties and on National Speak Like a Pirate Day.... We get a little problem...
We Could Have a Problem!
QuoteHollywood was shocked Friday afternoon by the sudden dismissal/resignation (take your pick) of Walt Disney Studios chairman Dick Cook, but no one may have taken it harder than Johnny Depp.
Speaking to The Los Angeles Times late at night in London, Depp said Cook's departure had created "a fissure, a crack in my enthusiasm at the moment" for the project.
Depp, who recently appeared at the first official Disney convention, D23 Expo, to support both his role as the Mad Hatter in Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland" and the new "Pirates" movie, credited Cook with standing by his interpretation of the character Captain Jack Sparrow when others at the studio were questioning his un-Disney like direction.
Depp told the Times, "He's instantly trustworthy. And you generally don't meet people at the studios you trust. He's a rare beast."
The actor also said he currently has a potential deal in place for "Pirates 4" and whether he moves forward or not will depend on how good the script is, but was presently "shocked and sad" over the day's events.
A lifelong employee at Disney, Cook began his career with the company in 1971 when he started as a monorail operator. By 2002, then CEO Michael Eisner made him chairman of the studio, one of the most senior positions in the company. Unfortunately, the studio side of the operation -- his responsibility -- lost $12 million in the third quarter due to financial disappointments such as "Bedtime Stories" and "Confessions of a Shopaholic." Current CEO Bob Iger blamed the losses on the quality of the overall slate in a conference call with Wall Street investors, but no one in the industry truly believed Cook could loose his job. Clearly, having hits such as "The Proposal" and "Up" over the summer didn't restore Iger's confidence in the well liked studio chief.
Who will take over Cook's position as studio chairman now and convince stars like Depp to stay in the fold is the $100 million dollar question that will have the town buzzing over the weekend. Will Pixar head and Disney Animation Chief John Lassiter take the top spot? Could Kevin Feige, president of production at newly acquired Marvel Studios, really ascend to a position of that stature so quickly? Could Stacey Snider somehow get out of her DreamWorks deal to run the studio? Or will it be an unknown who will have an even harder time proving himself to the likes of Jerry Bruckheimer, Richard Zemeckis and Burton? All are major players with projects or longtime deals at the studio who will be wary of someone without a strong track record.
Needless to say, Cook's replacement and possibly Iger, will have a call to Depp on the top of their list of things to do.
//http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-9-19-breaking-johnny-depp-s-says-he-s-not-as-enthusiastic-for-pirates-of-the-caribbean-4-after-dramatic-turnover-at-disney
This could turn out as a very big nightmare for Disney. Johnny Depp is angry, Steven Spielberg is angry and maybe the relationships to Tim Burton and Jerry Bruckheimer could suffer. It looks like that the whole Hollywood is angry on Disney.
I really hope for Disney that this will not be the end for all their good relationships to producers in Hollywood. But maybe it is time again that someone kicks Disney in the a.., like Steve Jobs and Pixar did a few years ago.
Well Pirates 4 is still on track at the moment. And Johnny's on board, thank god. And read on multiple places that right after Spider-Man 4 got delayed Disney changed the release date to May 2011, even IMDB reports so: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1298650/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1298650/).
I'm kinda hoping they are considering an Imax release for the 4th one, not 3D in particular but just some Imax sword fighting action :mrgreen:
From the Official Walt Disney Pictures Twitter Page:
QuoteOFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES will be released in theaters May 20, 2011
There you aaaaarrrrrrrgh! :P
I feel like a terrible person for laughing at that pun. :P
It's interesting that they have a release date for it already considering they haven't even started filming yet. Bit eager aren't they?
Great news. So hopefully filming starts soon. I really want to know, who talked to Johnny Depp to return as Captain Jack after being angry on Disney because of firing Dick Cook.
Quote from: "Slashfilm.com"ABC has spent the past few years adding to Hawaii's cachet as a travel destination by filming Lost there, there's a Disney resort opening next year and now Jerry Bruckheimer & Co. will bring Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides to Kaua'i and O'ahu this summer. That's right: Pirates is the movie started by the Dick Cook regime at Disney that new leader Rich Ross can't or won't kill.
The press release from Hawaii governor Linda Lingle and Disney doesn't offer any new details with respect to actors or story points. It does confirm, however, that Rob Marshall is directing. The director had sounded uncertain about the job when asked about it while promoting Nine. Johnny Depp is returning, as are writers Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio
So, it's official, Keira and Orlando aren't going to be in this.
Does this really have the potential to be a success? I'm trying to think of a critically praised sequel that came after a well-rounded trilogy and featured almost no familiar faces besides the main character... But I've got nothing.
This is risky business, that's for sure... Disney could be sacrificing the merchandise's good name for the sake of a sequel here.
Ian McShane and Penelope Cruz join the cast of PotC - On Stranger Tides.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63528 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63528%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
McShane will play Blackbeard. Do you know if Barbossa will return in the fourth part? I really hope he does, he is such a great character.
Blackbeard!
Now I'm enthoused for sure (and I was before that too) as Edward Teach is my favorite historical pirate :)
This is the only movie I'd actually go to the cinema for (I've decided to avoid the cinema like the plague if they don't show Alice in Belgium due to that stupid boycott, but for PotC4 I'll make an exeption ^^) :D
Quote from: "dagobert"Do you know if Barbossa will return in the fourth part? I really hope he does, he is such a great character.
He's down in the cast list on imdb but only as "rumoured" so far... so I guess we're still waiting for confirmation on that one!!
I cannot flippin' stand Penelope Cruz though, so that's the worst bit of news ever for me!! :(
I really hope Barbossa is going to be in it, he's brilliant.
Though I love the PotC trilogy, I do have some doubts if this 4th movie will be able to be as good as the previous 3...
Quote from: "Snow_White_Girl"I cannot flippin' stand Penelope Cruz though, so that's the worst bit of news ever for me!! :(
But Penelope Cruz is amazing. How comes you don't like her?
Cruz to play Blackbeard's daughter and Captain Sparrows love interest (//http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-penelope-cruz-joins-pirates.html)
Don't know in how far this is true or not, I'm just passing it along.
I read that Geoffrey Rush was confirmed for Pirates 4, I'm glad about that, I love him as Barbossa.
Ian McShane will be amazing! I completely love him as an actor! :mrgreen:
And Geoffrey Rush had best be back! lol :lol:
So Pirates 4 is going to be in 3D.
QuotePirates of the Caribbean' filming here all in 3-D
Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," with Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow for the fourth time, will be the first in the franchise that will be shot entirely in 3-D — loaded with special effects. Director Rob Marshall ("Chicago," "Nine") starts location shooting here in June, for a May 20, 2011, launch.
Source: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/artic ... 80325/1153 (http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100418/COLUMNISTS17/4180325/1153%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Glad that they're filming it in 3D, instead of doing a 2D conversion like Alice in Wonderland etc. Filming in 3D looks much better than those conversions so i'm glad to hear this :D Could we expect a IMAX 3D release? Since they're filming it in 3D from the start i think it's highly possible.
Urgh I hate 3D, I'm so disappointed. Even if a film is shot in 3D, is there still an opportunity for cinemas to show a 2D version?
If it is possible I'm going to watch PotC 4 in 2D. I think it is not necessary to shoot it in 3D.
I personally love IMAX 3D;
Just 'normal' 3D is very bad, but IMAX is awesome! :D
From @DisneyPictures (//http://twitter.com/DisneyPictures):
"What's better than Jack Sparrow? Jack Sparrow in 3D! #onstrangertides (//http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23onstrangertides)"
Quote from: "luke85"Urgh I hate 3D, I'm so disappointed. Even if a film is shot in 3D, is there still an opportunity for cinemas to show a 2D version?
There won't be as many cinemas showing it in 2D but they should do. Most 3D films are released in both formats.
@mehdi5 I could've sworn that Alice was filmed in 3D and not converted?
I'm not fussed by this news, I mean every major blockbuster seems to get the 3D treatment now and sometimes it works and sometimes it just completely fails. Just like Narnia 3 is in 3D (however not a Disney release anymore).
Quote from: "peep"@mehdi5 I could've sworn that Alice was filmed in 3D and not converted?
It was converted, Tim Burton didn't want to film in 3D because he liked the idea of filming on film rather than digitally.
That's why i'm glad this is actually gonna be filmed in digital 3D, Alice had a reasonable 3D conversion, but when you compare it to a film that was filmed in 3D you'll see the difference.
Although I like the 3D effects, not every movie has to be in 3D. I hope that PotC 4 is also released in 2D.
Maybe the 3D effects will bring more people into the cinemas to watch Pirates 4, like the 3D effects did with Avatar. I'm sure that if the movie wasn't filmed in 3D, it wouldn't have been so succesfull, because the story was very weak. I think the same goes for Alice in Wonderland.
IMAX 3D release confirmed:
QuoteIMAX Corporation and The Walt Disney Studios today announced a new agreement to release three additional 3D pictures to IMAX theatres in 2011. The titles included are Mars Needs Moms, starring Seth Green and Joan Cusack, slated for release on March 11, 2011 and executive produced by Robert Zemeckis; Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, starring Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz, slated for release on May 20, 2011 and Cars 2, slated for release on June 24, 2011.
Each title will be digitally re-mastered into the image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience.
Commenting on the announcement, Chuck Viane, president of distribution, Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures said, "The incredible performance of our IMAX releases in 2009 and 2010 demonstrated that the combination of IMAX and Disney resonates with moviegoers worldwide. We're very much looking forward to continuing this great partnership through 2011 with an incredible slate of exciting films. The IMAX Experience adds another level of impact and excitement to a movie, and with these new films, made by some of the industry's most innovative filmmakers, audiences are in for are real treat."
"Our long-standing partnership with The Walt Disney Studios has resulted in extraordinary movie experiences for audiences, and we're very excited to add these upcoming Disney films to our slate for 2011," said IMAX CEO Richard L. Gelfond. "The growing network of digital IMAX locations continues to enable our studio partners to increase the number of films they release in IMAX, ensuring moviegoers have more opportunities to experience the films they want to see in the best possible way."
"These films are ideal additions to our slate, and we're excited to combine the power of the Disney and IMAX brands with two iconic movie franchises as well as continuing our long standing partnership with Bob Zemeckis," said Greg Foster, Chairman and President of IMAX Filmed Entertainment. "Disney's commitment to 3D and its partnership with IMAX has helped to transform the way people see movies, and we're thrilled to keep the momentum going."
Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67250 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67250%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Glad to hear it's coming to IMAX too, the franchise always had scenes that would look amazing in IMAX, especially now it's being filmed in 3D.
Comic-Con just keeps giving doesn't it?
Teaser trailer for POTC: On Stranger Tides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzyEbnugFQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzyEbnugFQ%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
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Yes!! I've got a good feeling about this.
In an interview Bruckheimer was asked "what have you learnt from the original films that you'll apply to the 4th" or something similar and he replied "not to make it so long!". So fingers crossed.
Well the filming of this just got bucket loads more exciting for Londoners. Filming has started for 6 weeks on a massive set in Greenwich. They've put up massive blue screens and fake buildings to make the area look like 17th Century England. Hopefully I'll be going down to visit the site soon as it looks quite exciting. Johnny Depp has already been photographed filming on set and they've had loads of extras and horses in the area.
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You probably saw this (it made the 6 O'Clock news!), but if not - Johnny Depp answered a little girl's letter and paid a visit to her school in Greenwich - in character! - between filming:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11493676 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11493676%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
The report on the news actually showed a little of the set.
I didn't think it possible, but my love for Johnny Depp just grew after seeing the story about him going to that girl's school. I am SO excited about the fourth Pirates installment, I have a feeling they really are going to go back to the simplicity of the first film. And what's not to love about more Jack Sparrow antics?!
Some pictures from Jerry Bruckheimer's Twitter (//http://www.twitter.com/BruckheimerJB);
"Sir Christopher Wren's magnificent Chapel at the Old Royal Naval College"
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"Our research showed oysters were popular street food in mid-18th century London. I'll pass.."
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"Real Royal Guards, or 2 PIRATES extras?"
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Sweet Jelle! :thumbs:
Even though I wasnt that amazed by the third... This looks amazing again!
More pictures! :D
Blackbeard plans his next attack from his ship...
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Crew did great job with period detail on PIRATES shoot at Old Royal Naval College in Greenwich
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I can't wait for the next PotC movie. Thanks for all the pictures. Hopefully the movie will be better than Dead Man's Chest and At World's End. I enjoyed both, but unfortunately they weren't as good as the Course of the Black Pearl.
Judging from the pictures Jerry Bruckheimer and Rob Marshall are trying their best. I'm sure Ted Elliont Terry Rossio came up with a better story than for the last two movies.
The first poster is released! Not much different than the one from the other movies, but i like it! :D
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The poster looks fine. I think it is just a teaser poster.
Quote from: "dagobert"The poster looks fine. I think it is just a teaser poster.
Yes, it's e teaser poster. The 'real' one will feature Jack Sparrow and Barbossa, at least ;-)
Unit photographer Peter Mountain & Dan Barringer, stunt coordinator. Your favorite PIRATES stunt?
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From Jerry Bruckheimer's Twitter page:
"Officially wrapped PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES this week. Excited to share trailer with you 12/17. Stay tuned..."
Looking forward to 12/17!! :D
I guess the trailer is going out in front of Tron, then? Pirates in IMAX 3D? Crazy stuff. :mrgreen:
Didn't really want to make a new topic about this but
Pirates 5 & 6 in planning according to DisneyQuoteRemember when the third Pirates of the Caribbean film seemed like the end of the line for Jack Sparrow? Well, that's ancient history now because not only is the fourth film in the series, On Stranger Tides, currently in post-production for a 2011 release, but word comes today that Disney is hot for a Pirates 5 and, yes, even a Pirates 6.
HitFix reports that "Disney has begun quietly telling cast and crew to set aside a major block of time in the very near future so they can shoot" the films. As with the second and third sequels, the plan apparently is for these latest installments to be shot back to back.
Of course, you can't make a Pirates movie without Captain Jack Sparrow himself, Johnny Depp. But the actor is committed to shooting Dark Shadows (with Tim Burton) and The Lone Ranger (with original Pirates director Gore Verbinski) in 2011. So when would parts five and six get made? HitFix points out that a shoot like this could take a good chunk of a year.
Stay tuned for more on this development as we hear it...
Source: IGN.com (//http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/113/1138219p1.html)
I'm saving judgement on this until On Strangers Tides actually hits the big screen and I've saw it. After the last POTC trilogy I'm skeptic over any more (I'm such a movie snob over them that I consider Dead Man's Chest and World's End as non-cannon to the Pirates of the Caribbean story, I'm so sad :lol: )
Disney please don't make Pirates 5 and 6! In my opinion Disney should stop after "On Stranger Tides". They are going to ruin the franchise. I really doubt that Jaohnny Depp wants to make more Pirates movies and without him nobody wants to see the movies.
Disney nearly ruined Pirates for me with "Dead Man's Chest". "At World's End" was better, but still not a good as "The Curse of the Black Pearl".
I don't know if this video has been posted here before, but anyway...
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The trailer debuts today at 8pm European Time:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809791042/info (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809791042/info%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
If I count the hours well, in Belgium it will be released at 10pm ( 18pm 43 minutes + 3 h = 22pm :) )
Can't wait 'till it's released!
Arrr! :D/
Quote from: "svenneke1"If I count the hours well, in Belgium it will be released at 10pm ( 18pm 43 minutes + 3 h = 22pm :) )
Can't wait 'till it's released!
Arrr! :D/
You are right. I made a mistake. It's 22 o'clock!!
No problem, everyone makes mistakes! ;)
Aww , I really want to see the trailer. I hope there is some action in it!
First pictures, if you haven't seen them already ;)
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First official trailer has been released! Here it is ;)
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I have to admit I love it! It really looks like there are "Black Pearl"-pirates in it, rather than "Dead Man's Chest"- or "At World's End"-pirates, witch I think is a very good thing! :thumbs:
What do you all think of it?
Thanks for posting the trailer.
I love it and can't wait to see the movie. Killermermaids, how awesome is that!!! I'm glad to see Barbossa, Mr. Gibbs and the Black Pearl back in the new movie. Penelope Cruz will be a nice addition. Will and Elizabeth will not be missed.
That looks awesome. It just looks fun and adventurous, just what the franchise needs. However, I do feel they may be showing too much in this trailer and that truly concern me a bit.
I just watched the trailer again and I think this one will be more like "The Curse of the Black Pearl". As long as the movie will be better than "Dead Man's Chest", I'm happy.
"Did everyone see that? Because I will not be doing? it again!"
"There should? be a captain in there somewhere!" :D
haha it looks awsome!!! cant wait to see it =]
Disney released a new POTC 4 trailer during the Super Bowl:
[youtube:1fbyvmmw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ESxoL7J4Sk[/youtube:1fbyvmmw]
hehe it looks so awsome =]
New pictures!
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New trailer in HD @
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Saw the first TV ad for this yesterday. I was a bit like "oh yeah, that's happening!"
It seems to have crept up fast... You wouldn't think the long-awaited fourth Pirates movie is only 17 days away (for the UK, 19 elsewhere - we get it on the Wednesday!). Am I the only one that seems to have missed the hype so far? Maybe it'll kick in after the Disneyland premiere next Saturday.
Quote from: "Anthony"Saw the first TV ad for this yesterday. I was a bit like "oh yeah, that's happening!"
It seems to have crept up fast... You wouldn't think the long-awaited fourth Pirates movie is only 17 days away (for the UK, 19 elsewhere - we get it on the Wednesday!). Am I the only one that seems to have missed the hype so far? Maybe it'll kick in after the Disneyland premiere next Saturday.
Nope, you aren't alone. I completely forgot about this only until yesterday when I went to see Thor in the cinema. I saw a poster for this outside the place and thought "Oh yeah, that!"
I don't know whether this lack of hype is a good or bad thing. I'm still extremely skeptic about the entire movie because I know deep down no matter what they throw at me it will not beat or even come par to Curse of the Black Pearl. After going two ridiculously long winded movies of hoping they would bring back the magic from 2003 I just don't think I'm up for putting my childhood (but that's what POTC is, I first went on the ride when I was 6, the movie came out when I was 9) on the line again with On Stranger Tides.
I will go see it in the cinema probably - just to nostalgia sake I think. Although the last time I went to the cinema alone for that reason was Toy Story 3. Pirates 4 certainly has
a lot of weight on its shoulders if it wants to win in Camp Breeno.
I think its cause the 'summer season' has kicked off sooo early this year, it's messed up everyone's timing. Soon it wont be a summer season, just a year-long one
Well, the campain goes on at YouTube! :D
[youtube:4236e5i0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d9DD09O594[/youtube:4236e5i0]
The script for POTC has been delivered to Disney, reports The Hollywood Reporter!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/p ... ney-185357 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/pirates-5-script-delivered-disney-185357%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides doesn't hit U.S. theaters until May 20. But screenwriter Terry Rossio has just turned in his script for a planned fifth installment in Disney's most lucrative film franchise.
Rossio tells THR that the still-untitled script -- his first penned without Ted Elliot, who collaborated on the first four Pirates scripts -- was delivered to Disney this past weekend. It's the initial step in putting together the key creative pieces for another Pirates film. Disney would like another installment, given the $3 billion in worldwide grosses for the first three films and the likely huge returns for the fourth movie, the first to be released in 3D.
Producer Jerry Bruckheimer has said he's in to make a fifth Pirates. And sources say Disney has made overtures to Rob Marshall, who took over directing duties on Pirates 4 from Gore Verbinski, who helmed the first three pictures, to return for another go-round (though no deal is in place for Marshall).
But they key question mark is star Johnny Depp. Will he sign on for a fifth installment in the franchise?
In an interview published in the current issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine, Depp says he hasn't seen the new Rossio screenplay but he isn't opposed to reprising his iconic Jack Sparrow character yet again.
"It boils down to story, script and filmmaker," Depp tells THR. But the actor isn't clamoring to jump back into the puffy shirt until a little time has passed after Pirates 4. He didn't relish the brutal schedule that saw him making Pirates 2 and Pirates 3 back-to-back in order to meet studio-mandated release dates in summer 2006 and 2007, respectively.
"It's not something where I would say, 'Let's shoot it next month to get it out by Christmas 2012,'" he says. "We should hold off for a bit. They should be special, just like they are special to me."
Jim Hill Media has posted some pictures of the POTC premier in Disneyland:
http://jimhillmedia.com/columnists1/b/n ... miere.aspx (http://jimhillmedia.com/columnists1/b/nancy_stadler/archive/2011/05/08/celebrities-stroll-down-disneyland-s-black-carpet-at-the-quot-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-stranger-tides-quot-world-premiere.aspx%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
The Official Disney Parks Blog has also posted some pictures, but they don't show any celebrities:
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The Official Disney Parks Blog has posted more pictures of the premiere:
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Here are two GREAT video's of the PocT4 premiere at Disneyland!
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OMG, that Kermit clip was amazing. Johnny Depp, Steven Tyler and Kermit the Frog sounds like my idea of a dream dinner party.
Anyone looking forward to seeing it? I'm going to see it tomorrow! :D
Hey, welcome to the forums!
I'm going to probably wait until the weekend to see the new Pirates (I may be undecided over it but I want a fair judgement). You can fine the full topic over the film here (//http://www.photosmagiques.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3391) :)
I will be going to see it, but probably in a week or so. I also want to judge it myself since some of the reviews I've read recently did not show it as favourable.. :|
One example from the Daily Mail......
QuotePirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (12A)
Verdict: Commerce-driven cinema at its most worthless
Rating: 1 Star :(
Johnny Depp has admitted he signed up for this film before he read the screenplay. This does not surprise me, especially as Disney offered him $55.5million to make it. If he had read the script, the most honourable response would have been to throw himself into the mouth of a great white shark and do us all a favour.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/re ... z1MeL2Xldw (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1387395/Pirates-Caribbean-On-Stranger-Tides-review-Johnny-Depp-walk-plank.html#ixzz1MeL2Xldw%22%20onclick=%22window.open(this.href);return%20false;)
I've booked seats to see it at 12pm on Saturday. I CANNOT WAIT! Im not listening to what the critics say, as i tend to like movies they hate anyway lol.
I just hope its as awesome as it makes out on the trailers, and im so excited to see the mermaids! <3
Reviews time, please! :)
Here it's not released until tomorrow and I just found out that the Original Version will only be shown in 3D, while the dubbed version will be shown in 3D and 2D.
I don't get it why POTC is shown in 3D. I think I have to watch it in 3D, because TWDC Germany changed Johnny Depp's German voice. And usually I prefere the OV.
You would like a review eh? :P
I saw it at the London IMAX in 3D. None of it is in IMAX and the 3D is pointless.
However saying that the actual film is great fun, captures the energy of the first one imo. It has fantastic set pieces, random yet awesome cameos and the special effects are amazing. I really, really enjoyed it, fantastic addition to the franchise. :D
I saw the IMAX 3D premiere (in Europe) in Amsterdam.
My thoughts? Actually (and I HATE to say it) I didn't thought it was very good... at all!
The only characters returning from the earlier movies were Jack Sparrow, Barbossa and Mr. Gibbs (and Keith Richards, but not in an amazing scene as he was in the third movie).
I don't know why I didn't like it. Maybe the characters missing (Pintel and Ragetti, those two 'silly' marines, Jack's amazing crew: Cotton, Marty... Cotton's Parrot...). Or because the story was... strange?
The movie has a great subject to tell a story about: the famous Fountain of Youth. But they just didn't! Blackbeard and Angelica, two very interesting characters, were just... present. No real background story of them, unlike Barbossa and Davy Jones in the earlier movies. So you can't really feel sorry for them or anything! Blackbeard is just bad and Angelica (his daughter) is a former love of Jack. That's all you get to know about them. As with the Spanish people: no background story, AT ALL!
You don't really get to know who's actually after the Fountain and who's not. Which is, in this case, not a positive thing.
A few things I really liked about it? The escape-from-London-scene was great! Also the scene where Barbossa and Jack are tied to palm trees is amazing. And the music as well (Hans Zimmer, so I didn't expected it not to be).
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If anyone has more thoughts, please share!
I'm going to see it again in IMAX, with some friends of me. Because they are going anyway ;-)
I'm just back from seeing it in 3D
Mixed thoughts on it.. Yes it was good... But not as good as the previous ones... Thats just my opinion...
My dad did prefer it to dead mans chest though...
The music was great.
Reviews here (and elsewhere I've read) have been mixed then? I'd be lying if I were to say I'm surprised.
Going see this tonight at the 7pm showing in my town (non IMAX, 2D). I want this to be a good film, I really do, but I'm prepared for it to be one big disappointment. I want this to be a night of me coming back to my childhood and Pirates of the Caribbean was the biggest thing in my life film-wise, not a night of me wishing the series stopped after Black Pearl (a la DMC's and AWE's premier viewings).
What I wish/hope to see tonight:
- A fun, exciting and original story like Curse of the Black Pearl's was.
- Little to no references of the previous two films (this I know won't happen though, shame).
- Johnny Depp to show me why he was my favourite actor back in 2003.
- An amazing soundtrack from the fantastic Hans Zimmer.
- A reminder that Pirates of the Caribbean is still an amazing film franchise, and the last two were mistakes.
What I expect to see tonight:
- A rushed, dull and poorly wrote story.
- An unoriginal plot in terms of mermaids/zombies etc that aren't expressed into any detail, or poorly done.
- Over-acted, annoying Johnny Depp/Jack Sparrow like what we saw in Dead Man's Chest and At World's End.
- Another reason why I cannot stand Penelope Cruz's acting.
- Former great characters such as Barbossa ruined.
- A reason not to pick up on DVD/Blu Ray.
Just throwing my two cents in prior to viewing, I will return either tonight or tomorrow with my views on the film.
Not a good film. During the action sequences it felt more like 'what cool thing could Jack do next'. A lot of the time it made no sense.
Also too many sub-plots that weren't given enough screen time or explanation and therefor felt out of place. The Spanish, Barbosa and Gibbs, the preacher and the mermaid, Jack and Angelica, Angelica and Blackbeard. And those are just the ones off the top of my head.
The biggest crime was the music. I swear there was a bit when they walk through a field and for some reason the dramatic music starts. Why?? Run out of ideas, hit the wrong switch??
Admittedly the last 5 minutes were funny. Funny. That's another point, it wasn't funny. A mild snicker here and there, but on the whole a very serious film.
The same tone as the 3rd film, but a better, more structured plot but also not as funny.
Sigh - 5/10. Would have been 4 but the mermaid attack was pretty good.
I'm just back from seeing it myself and like yourself PD, I share similar views.
There's a lot of things wrong with this movie in my opinion, I'll try and keep this short (famous last words) but there's a lot on my mind (warning, here be spoilers).
[spoiler:3k6ss38u]I'll start from the top, the main plot, it was terrible. Why did it have to be the fountain of youth, one of the most famous stories in fiction? I've been voicing this opinion since the moment I heard this was going to be the film's story, If they managed to create a great, original and creative story of the Pearl's curse in the first film, why not here? But I thought "alright, I'm not happy with it but I'll go with it" in the hope maybe we'll get a fleshed out explanation of the fountain with motives etc, but we aren't. Another thing is Blackbeard, why? Why use the most famous pirate in the history of fiction? You created Jack Sparrow, you created Barbossa, would it have hurt so much to create a brand new character, give him a fearsome history and use him?
Next up in my rant is characters. I hated Angelica with a passion on so many levels. Blackbeard's daughter? Really? Did that have any relevance at all the to story with the exception of the finale? Not really. The worst however with this character is the fact they made her a love interest for Jack. NO. If it wasn't for the ending Jack's character - in my opinion the best character to be constructed from any movie in the past 10 years - was as good as dead for me. If there's anything we learned from Curse of the Black Pearl it's that Jack Sparrow is a selfish, determined but extremely cunning character whose only love is his ship. It is this persona that we all fall in love with and see him almost as the ultimate anti-hero. If you cast your mind back to Tortuga you'll remember the two women who slapped him ("I'm not sure I deserved that - I may have deserved that"), thus confirming he's not the type for settling down/love. The Jack we know and I love doesn't need anyone, he only needs himself and his Pearl. There were times I thought this was lost (such as the feelings confessing with Gibbs, the scene when she drinks from the fountain, sorta the end) but hints that he's still the character he is. Another film will ruin this completely though I'm sure. Aside from her there's the matter of the Spanish, Blackbeard and the ruddy king of England. The inclusion of the Spanish was probably the most pointless in the entire film, why they needed to include them I'll never know, if anything this would have been a better way to link Angelica into the story instead of via Blackbeard. She could have been an infamous Spanish pirate, in search for the fountain but on the run from Spanish military. Speaking of Blackbeard I've already spoke of my disliking for his inclusion but there is so much more. Call me old fashioned but when I picture Blackbeard - the most infamous and feared pirate in the legends - I expected something a bit more, fearsome. Bigger build, bigger beard, kinda like Barbossa. Ian McShane was a terrible casting idea for the character, heck his zombie crewman would have been a better person to play the character. The topic of Barbossa brings me to my next point, why join the british navy? Alright, I had a big punt from the start he was still a pirate and was going to turn on them but still, the only reason I can think of for him being with them is for that they had an excuse to film a nearly 40 minute scene in London (which I actually liked! Surprisingly). I feel there were other ways Barbossa could have been used. I don't care what you say there's surely no way a king would negotiate with a pirate - no matter how much corruption there is. Although these are pretty bad character/sub-plot choices the worst, the VERY VERY worst was the mermaids, and the love story between one of them and who I simply refer to as "Holy Man". After the long-winded the boring romance from the last two movies I've had enough with love in my Pirate movies. There were far too many times they got screen time and I just wish Blackbeard would prove that he was "the very bad man" he claimed to be. Holy Man must have really been the second coming of Jesus some of the things he managed to survive.
That's my very main complaints dealt with but there are a few off the top of my head that I didn't like. Blackbeard's super fire weapon on his ship was ridiculous, I felt there weren't enough sword fights and as Jack put it "A bottle? Why is the Black Pearl in a bottle?" That for me took the absolute biscuit in Blackbeard's mess of a story. Simply stupid.
Saying all this, despite everything that I have said, I still prefer this film over the last two; and I think that is solely because of Johnny Depp. For me he brought himself back up from his dismal performances in the Dead's Man Chest and At World's End and gave Sparrow a worthy performance. It wasn't as good as when I first met him but in the opening London scene I felt like the days of 2003 were back. It just a shame the movie peaked about 25 minutes in and began sinking as soon as Penelope Cruz showed her face (or shadow, whatever).
So such for laughs let's have a look at my hopes/predictions and put some comments to them.
QuoteWhat I wish/hope to see tonight:
- A fun, exciting and original story like Curse of the Black Pearl's was.
From the London scene yes. For the rest of the movie a big no no.
Quote- Little to no references of the previous two films (this I know won't happen though, shame).
With the obvious exception of Barbossa being alive and well this actually happened. Kudos on that point at least!
Quote- Johnny Depp to show me why he was my favourite actor back in 2003.
Yeah I'd say that, I thought he was much better than the last two excuses.
Quote- An amazing soundtrack from the fantastic Hans Zimmer.
Forgetful. With the exception of Blackbeard's theme (which I'm guessing is what it's called, the one they played when Jack was forced to work on his ship) I can't think of a single track that wasn't originally from the first movie. I'm disappointed. Zimmer.
Quote- A reminder that Pirates of the Caribbean is still an amazing film franchise, and the last two were mistakes.
Mixed. I think they've accepted that DMC and AWE were bad and wanted to make amends, but they blew this opportunity.
QuoteWhat I expect to see tonight:
- A rushed, dull and poorly wrote story.
Bingo!
Quote- An unoriginal plot in terms of mermaids/zombies etc that aren't expressed into any detail, or poorly done.
Ding ding ding!
Quote- Over-acted, annoying Johnny Depp/Jack Sparrow like what we saw in Dead Man's Chest and At World's End.
Thankfully not, see above.
Quote- Another reason why I cannot stand Penelope Cruz's acting.
Oh indeed, that Spanish accent get's right up my nose.
Quote- Former great characters such as Barbossa ruined.
Again mixed, didn't like the fact he joined the British navy but redeemed himself at the end. Still think it could have been done a lot better.
Quote- A reason not to pick up on DVD/Blu Ray.
Only thing that will probably convince me to buy this on Blu Ray is if it's going for next to nothing in Cex (or my mum wants to buy it, who loved it).
So after all that (if you survived reading it that is, I just had a look at it in the preview, ouch!) my final opinion. To keep it short and sweet, it's better than the last two, but there are a lot of things wrong with it.
5.0/10[/spoiler:3k6ss38u]
Going to watch it tomorrow and after reading these reviews not sure if I'm excited or not now.
It seems the fourth movie of Pirates of the Caribbean is very successful around the globe:
The Johnny Depp tentpole smashes records overseas, where it earns $256.3 million to become top international debut of all time; bows to a softer $90.1 million in North America.
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I saw it on sunday evening and I have to say that I was pleasantly suprised - it is by far the second best of the series only outclassed by the first one which is still waaaaay better than this one.
Depp is great as always as is McShane, Rush and McNally who returns as Gibbs - actually the only one who disappointed me a bit was the dear Penelope.. For me she just didn't fit the role in contradiction to Depp - you can really feel how much he loves Jack and how comfortable he is playing him.
[spoiler:3no2j0g1]I was happy to see far less supernatural CGI stuff (Giant Tia Dalma - oh god that was bad :lol:) and more focus on great characters. The mermaids were probably the best supporting "character" ever created for the series - the Mermaid attack scene was spectacular. The idea of having these sexy mermaids being "man-eaters" - if Elliot and Russo wouldn't come up with this obvious yet unused idea, who would?[/spoiler:3no2j0g1]
Many danish reviews had said it was boring and I would agree that it was long and felt long, but it never got boring to me.
4/6
Quote from: "forza_united"I saw it on sunday evening and I have to say that I was pleasantly suprised - it is by far the second best of the series only outclassed by the first one which is still waaaaay better than this one.
Depp is great as always as is McShane, Rush and McNally who returns as Gibbs - actually the only one who disappointed me a bit was the dear Penelope.. For me she just didn't fit the role in contradiction to Depp - you can really feel how much he loves Jack and how comfortable he is playing him.
[spoiler:15cfemho]I was happy to see far less supernatural CGI stuff (Giant Tia Dalma - oh god that was bad :lol:) and more focus on great characters. The mermaids were probably the best supporting "character" ever created for the series - the Mermaid attack scene was spectacular. The idea of having these sexy mermaids being "man-eaters" - if Elliot and Russo wouldn't come up with this obvious yet unused idea, who would?[/spoiler:15cfemho]
Many danish reviews had said it was boring and I would agree that it was long and felt long, but it never got boring to me.
4/6
[spoiler:15cfemho]Less supernatural stuff? Mermaids, Voodoo, magic swords that control ships, ships in bottles, Fountain of Youth. You call that less?? 8)[/spoiler:15cfemho]
Quote from: "Pete's Dragon"Quote from: "forza_united"I saw it on sunday evening and I have to say that I was pleasantly suprised - it is by far the second best of the series only outclassed by the first one which is still waaaaay better than this one.
Depp is great as always as is McShane, Rush and McNally who returns as Gibbs - actually the only one who disappointed me a bit was the dear Penelope.. For me she just didn't fit the role in contradiction to Depp - you can really feel how much he loves Jack and how comfortable he is playing him.
[spoiler:jdq07btb]I was happy to see far less supernatural CGI stuff (Giant Tia Dalma - oh god that was bad :lol:) and more focus on great characters. The mermaids were probably the best supporting "character" ever created for the series - the Mermaid attack scene was spectacular. The idea of having these sexy mermaids being "man-eaters" - if Elliot and Russo wouldn't come up with this obvious yet unused idea, who would?[/spoiler:jdq07btb]
Many danish reviews had said it was boring and I would agree that it was long and felt long, but it never got boring to me.
4/6
[spoiler:jdq07btb]Less supernatural stuff? Mermaids, Voodoo, magic swords that control ships, ships in bottles, Fountain of Youth. You call that less?? 8)[/spoiler:jdq07btb]
[spoiler:jdq07btb]Well, maybe not less supernatural stuff - but less stupid CGI without a mythical substance... Maybe all that got me positive was the fact that the Giant Tia Dalma from the thirds was the single most stupid thing I have ever seen. I didn't see something that stupid. The supernatural stuff in this one was far more like the first one - with exception of the magic sword and ships in bottles they all build on myths from that time.[/spoiler:jdq07btb]
Ok I watched it on Tuesday and ok it wasn't as great as the first one, but I really enjoyed it. I actually found parts of the film really funny aswell. Lived upto my expectations and can't wait for the next one.
Yetsterday we have finally seen the movie and we liked it a lot. It was so much better than part two and three, but The Curse of the Black Pearl is still the best one. Unfortunately we had to watch it in 3D to see the original version. I really don't get why that movie was shown in 3D. Except for Tron and Avatar I've seen no movie that had good 3D effect. If you haven't seen it already, save the extra money and watch it in 2D.
The beginning of the movie was a little bit too much for me. The chase through London was great, but the scene with the king when Jack wanted to get the dessert was too funny. I already thought that they will ruin the movie.
I also think that too much of the movie was shot on land, I missed more scenes on sea, but nevertheless it was a very entertaining movie.
The mermaids were really cool and the soundtrack was as great as in the last movies. Hopefully Disney will do another one and I wouldn't mind if they will keep Rob Marshall. He did a great job.
I'm glad Will and Elizabeth are gone, but it is sad that Pintel and Ragetti and the two Navy soldiers aren't part of the movie anymore. Do you think there is a possibility that they are caught on the Black Pearl like the Jack the Monkey, although Barbossa mentioned that he is the only one who survived the attack of Blackbeard?
Quote from: "dagobert"... but it is sad that Pintel and Ragetti and the two Navy soldiers aren't part of the movie anymore. Do you think there is a possibility that they are caught on the Black Pearl like the Jack the Monkey, although Barbossa mentioned that he is the only one who survived the attack of Blackbeard?
It's not a very bad idea, at all! But I read somewhere that the actor for Pinter or Ragetti (don't remenber which of those two) didn't want to be a part of the fourth movie, so I guess that's why they decided to leave them out. It's a shame, I admit...
POTC 4 surpassed the $900 mio and it's the most successful Disney movie outside the US. But in the US I would consider it a failure compared to the other movies. It's $100 mio away from "At World's End", the weakest domestic box office for a POTC movie so far. Tron: Legacy made over $170 mio and it is considered as a failure by Disney. I'm sure Disney will do a fifth and maybe even a sixth POTC movie and I really hope they make a third Tron as well.
I think there is no doubt that POTC 4 will make over $1 billion.
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Last saturday the movie passed the $1 billion mark! :D/
Saw it a while ago, loved it! It really is better than 'At Worlds End'. But still, the first one stays my favorite! :)
The blu ray just arrived today :D/
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Be aware that the bonus features on this disc are so scarce that they actually list Timon & Pumba's guide to 3D and some Lego shorts (???) as an extra.
- Audio Commentary by director Rob Marshall
- Bloopers of the Caribbean
- LEGO Animated Shorts: Captain Jack's Brick Tales
No really, that's it. And no, the bloopers aren't even funny.
In the US they have a 5-disc set (Blu-ray 3D, 2x Blu-ray, DVD and Digital Copy) with these extra extras:
- Legends of On Stranger Tides
- In Search of the Fountain
- Last Sail/First Voyage
- Under the Scene: Bringing Mermaids to Life
- Deleted and Extended Scenes with Intros by director Rob Marshall
Disney really couldn't be bothered with this film, could they?
I noticed that yesterday and I was shocked. I honestly didn't expect that! I didn't check on the bonus features when I ordered my copy, because of the previous movies and their awesome bonus content. I'm really disappointed...why on earth would they do such a thing? The US gets so many features (where the movie actually did awfully bad) and the rest of us get nothing?? Is there a place where we could send an official complain? I hate it when we are being treated as 2nd rate customers.
I just rented this from LOVEFiLM and I noticed the same thing. The bonus features are non existent. Bloops of the Caribbean was the only genuine bonus, and I personally found it more enjoyable than the whole film!
I think "Info" was also listed as a bonus feature, which is basically a screen of text. Very exciting :-)